May 4, 2025 • 42 mins
Vice President JD Vance discusses tariffs, China, deportations, district court judges, woke corporations, transgender sports, and college football. Stephen Miller, Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor. Trump’s first 100 days.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
One hundred days of the Trump Fance administration, and we
are joined now by Vice President JD. Vans, and we're
going to get into all the successes the border and more.
But JD, I don't know if you've answered this question,
But on the first day of your administration, Ohio State
won the National Championship against Notre Dame. But you had
a ton of obligations as the newly inaugurated vice president.
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Do you have like an official Buckeye guy who was
following you around that day giving you updates during the
course of the game. I know you're a big fan.
I've actually I wondered about it that night. I don't
know if you've answered it. I would have if my
University of Tennessee ever gets back in the title game,
I would be terrified to miss any of it. What
was your play there for National Title Game day as
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a Buckeye?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah, so there are a couple of different things going on.
So first I actually talked to my team about whether
it would be possible to skip the inaugural balls so
that I would be able to go to the game.
And actually, you know, I guess we'd get inaugurated, we'd
go to a few parties, and then I'd be able
to watch the game while the president took care of
the inaugural balls. The team was not a huge fan
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of that. Apparently it would have been unprecedent for vice
president to skip the inaugural balls the night of the inauguration.
What we were able to do, though, is before the
first ball, I actually had all of my friends and family.
We got basically we turned a big hotel room into
a sports bar, and so I was able to watch
the first quarter before the first ball, and I think
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it was either right after the second or the third ball,
Notre Dame started to come back a little bit, and
so I sat in a room with like a nineteen
inch TV and just sort of watched the Buckeyes put
it away. So I got to see a little bit
of it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But yeah, it's it's on the one hand, like, what
what a cool day for an Ohio State fan to
be inaugurated as the vice president have your team within
a national championship. On the other hand, was sad to
miss most of the game, but you know, official duties
come first.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Bet Jeddie.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was also happy to see Vice President of Vance,
very happy to see my beloved Buck. Guys do so well,
I want to ask you. I want to ask you
about a border if I can, and what's going on
with the administration on Well, let's get into the next steps.
The good news is you can sit here and tell us.
But Clay and I've been telling everybody about this. So far,
the border is secure ninety five percent drop. The stats
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speak for themselves. Biden kicked the border wide open. It
was a choice. Trump has actually secured the border. Fantastic.
We still have millions and millions of illegals who came
in under Biden. What should we expect from the perspective
of building on the border successes so far in the
next six to twelve months.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, well, obviously we know we have to ramp up
to deportations, and the President talks about this all the time,
both in public and private. It's something that I'm very
focused on. And a lot of this comes down to,
I mean, it turns out we've got to do some
battle with some really crazy far left judges in order
to allow the administration to do what it actually needs
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to do. And I will say, to great credit, the
President expected this when we came in. He said, you know,
we're going to start deporting people, and a lot of
these far left judges are going to stop us, and
there's no way out of it but through it, and
we're just going to have to battle. We're going to
have to win the court cases. We're going to have
to take some of this stuff all the way to
the Supreme Court, and we're going to have to find
alternative ways to deport people. When the judges say you
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can't do this method, we're gonna have to find another method.
So we recognize that we're dealing battle here, or doing
battle with basically a massive bureaucracy that has decided that
it rules the country rather than the American people. And
I think one of the biggest takeaways of the one
hundred days is, yes, we've got a lot of successes.
We've also revealed ways in which this deeply entrenched bureaucracy
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tries to fight the will of the American people. And
thank god, we've got a vice president and a president
who are pushing back against it. And that's exactly what
we told the American people we would do. That's exactly
what we're doing. But I think that is really the
biggest focal point of immigration policy over the next six
to twelve months, is to empower all of the people
in the administration, from Tom Homer and Christynome to the
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border patrol agents on the ground to do their job
and to get a lot of these people out of
our country. Now that said, we have had great success,
but we're not resting on our laurels here. We're shutting
down the border traffic coming into the country and we're
dealing with what Biden left us simultaneously.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
That's exactly what we have to do.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You're not only an Ohio State grad, you're also a
Yale law grad. And you just talked about where the
resistance two point zero, I would say, is coming from,
largely the six hundred and some odd district court judges
who are regularly putting in place nationwide injunctions. What's a
fix to that? And are even you surprised by how
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aggressive the judiciary has been to try to strip the
president's executive authority.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know, I'm not surprised by it, because again, the
president actually expected this. He told us this would happen.
You know, he felt and I think he was right
about this, that you know, the left felt defeated in
a certain way, that there were a lot of you know,
grassroots activists that just weren't nearly as fired up in
twenty twenty four as they were in twenty sixteen. And
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he's talking about people on the far left. But he
said that, look at the courts are going to try
to stop everything that we do. And it's actually not
just immigration. I mean, the courts have tried to stop
Pete Hegseth from not allowing you know, transgender military personnel
to continue serving.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
They've done a lot, I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Which goes to the heart of military readiness, right the
Secretary of Defense saying that, you know, if you're dealing
with a serious mental health issue, our compassion goes with you,
but you can't be deployed to the battlefield like that.
That is the heart of the president and the Secretary
of Defense's authorities. And so you have these district courts
who really want to run the country and have decided
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that they are actually in charge of the United States
of America. There's this very funny I think headline from
the Babylon be that was, you know, something like Donald
Trump considers resigning to become a very powerful district court judge.
But it's one of these jokes with a kernel of truth,
which is that the district courts in this country have
tried to take upon themselves powers that belong to the President.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And it's funny, guys, you know, you hear the media
and they'll say, well, this is a constitutional crisis. And
the constitutional crisis is not Donald Trump refusing to allow
the district courts to govern the country. The crisis is
the district courts trying to govern the country and our approaches.
We're fighting it legally, of course, we're taking some of
these cases to the Supreme Court and we think we're
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going to get success there. We're finding alternative methods to
do what we need to do in compliance with the law.
And we're just going to have to keep on fighting this,
you know, day by day, figuring out where the district courts.
And it's to be clear, it's not all district courts.
It's the far left crazies. But when these far left
crazies stop it and try to prevent the president from
doing his job. We've got to do it through alternative means,
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and that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We're speaking of Vice President Vance, and mister Vice President,
let me ask you about how things are going at
this stage with not just identifying the waste, fraud and
abuse within the government, a big mission that DOGE has
taken upon itself. But what we can expect now, how
much of this do you think has been completed when
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you look at Elon and Doge's mission. Does Congress have
to play a major role with recisions? Essentially, we know
there's a lot of shenanigans going on, but how do
we actually get the shenanigans in government spending to stop?
Where are we on that?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, I think we're making a lot of progress. I
wouldn't say that it's done by any means. And yes,
Congress has a role because here, here's what happens. If
DOGE and Elon find ten billion dollars of spending, that's
just ridiculous. That's not consistent with the law or with
the admitted tration's policy priorities. That money just kind of
sits there and so it's still been taxed from the
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American people. And if we want to use it to
pay down debt or to give it back to the
American people through tax relief, then that does require an
Act of Congress, and I think Congress is very willing
to do it.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I think it was today or maybe yesterday, a report
came out that Treasury actually is borrowing less money than they.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Expected to borrow.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And I think that's because of the success of DOGE.
You're seeing them make meaningful cuts in some of these
crazy foreign aid programs. But I also think they're finding
a lot of fraud in programs that are meant for
American citizens that are going either to illegal aliens or
to complete fraudsters. And so I think DOGE is making
a lot of progress, but it's not done, and I
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don't think it's ever going to be truly done right.
This is one of these problems that we have to
continually fight against. And the reason why it was such
a shock to the system is we had allowed the
waste and the fraud to become so endemic in the
way that we did government in this country. And I
don't I think we should ever go back, And I
actually do think and maybe this is too optimistic that
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when all the political controversy is cleared, we look back
on this a few years from now, we're going to
realize that doges saved the American people a lot of money,
that cut a lot of fraud out of our government,
and that even some Democrats are going to say, well,
we have to keep doing this, because we can't just
let hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud every single
year become part of how the US government functions.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We're talking to Vice President jd Vance. You guys have
made tremendous strides with young men. The data continues to
reflect that young men are breaking for both you and
Donald Trump in big numbers. I think a big part
of that is because young men are over this idea
of men being able to play women's sports. I can't
believe this is even a thing. Nike, you may have seen,
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recently paid for a study on minors to study trans
drugs and how it might impact athletics. How did the
world get it's so broken here? What are companies like
Nike even trying to accomplish? And this feels like an
eighty twenty ninety ten issue for Americans. Do you feel
that when you're out and about, I.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Do feel that.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I definitely think it's a winning political issue for the
Republican Party because it's just basic common sense, right. I mean,
people don't want women competing against grown men and sports,
especially in some of these contact sports where the women
could get injured. You know, I'm the father of a
three year old daughter. I'd like her to play sports.
I think it teaches valuable life lessons, but I don't
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want her competing against grown men when she does it.
This is just, again, it's basic common sense. I think
it's the basic masculine instinct to protect young women. And
one of the ways you do that is to not
let you know, a male boxer in the room with
a female boxer. Just things like that I think have
turned it into a ninety ten issue, that basic common sense.
But man, I think that so many of these companies,
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Nike or otherwise, they got caught up in this cultural
zeitgeist of twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and it's like,
I don't know, maybe they just thought the Progressors were
going to win, and so they decided to fund this
stuff to the hilt, not realizing that the American people
would have a rebellion against the craziness. I think that
rebellion on the trans issue in particular. I mean, think
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about this, giving hormonal therapies to twelve year old kids,
causing irreversible damage to their bodies, forcing young girls to
compete against boys in sports, sometimes causing serious injury in
the process. I think this issue is such a bad
loser among the American people that even some of the
true believers have dropped it as a political issue. But
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I think it's our job to remind the American people
this is what they've tried to do, this is what
they're promising to do. The trans issue hasn't gone away.
You just had some Democrats who are smart enough to
recognize it's a political loser. But yeah, they're going to
try to force twelve year olds to take cross sex hormones,
and they're going to try to force young girls to
compete against young boys if we give these power. The craziness,
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in other words, hasn't gotten away. They've just gotten a
little bit better at hiding it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Mister Vice President, one more for you. Appreciate you making
the time for us today. The tariff's issue is something
that has gotten a lot of attension on this show
across the country for obvious reasons. People are very attuned
to what the Trump negotiations with these countries and his
approach to China is doing to the economy, the market
prices everything. Wall Street Journal being a little salty about
(12:29):
it today on their front page. What do you say
to anyone who is trying to steer Donald Trump away
from this course because they're a little nervous about the
tariff situation.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So I've had so many conversations guys in private with
the President about this, and I think his public statements,
I mean, going back to the nineteen eighties, this is
an issue that he feels very deeply about. I happen
to think that he's right. He campaigned on it, the
American people elected him on it, and there's a lot
of misinformation out there. There's a lot of people saying, well,
Donald Trump doesn't know what he's actually doing. Look, I
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promise you I've spent many hours discussing these issues with
Donald Trump. You can disagree with him, but he knows
exactly what he's doing. And here's the fundamental problem. America
doesn't produce enough of its own stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That is the issue.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
We don't have enough manufacturing in our own country. We're
too reliant on sometimes hostile foreign powers to make the
things that we need. And that's true in electronics, it's
true in technology, it's true in God forbid. You know,
we've had shortages of critical pharmaceuticals in this country over
the last few years. We cannot have a real successful,
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prosperous country if we're dependent on the communist Chinese.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
For the drugs that we put into the bodies of
our children.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And so what the President has said here is, yes,
this is going to be disruptive, Yes this is going
to require some transition, but he's fundamentally committed to the
basic process of manufacturing more in the United States, creating
good paying jobs in the process, but more fundamentally make
King America more self reliant. And I think the problem
is that we had a bipartisan consensus in this country
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for forty years that we could just ship all of
our heavy industry overseas, that we could ship a lot
of our good jobs overseas, a lot of our factories,
and that somehow that would make the United States more prosperous.
I think the reality is that it's made us weaker.
It's made us more dependent on the communist Chinese. And
when you see, for example, the Chinese respond to the
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President's trade policy by saying, well, we're going to cut
off the United States from critical supplies that are necessary
for the American people, doesn't that just prove that Donald
Trump was right? How did we ever get into the
position where the People's Republic of China could threaten the
American people with the loss of critical supplies. And given
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that we are in that position, Donald Trump is exactly
right that we have to get out of it. I'm
not going to tell you it's going to be easy,
because it's not. But it's necessary, and I think the
President recognizes he is a once in a generation opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Need to do it. JD.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Van's, Vice President of the United States. Congratulations on the
first hundred days and your Ohio state Buck, guys being
the national champs. We hope to talk to you again soon.
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Stick here you're listening to Team forty seven with Clay
and Buck.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We are joined by Deputy White House Chief of Staff
Steven Miller, one of the sharpest minds in this White House.
The policy maestro extraordinaire Steven. Great to have you back
on the program.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Thank you appreciate that very generous introduction. I promise I'm
not paying him anything for those kind words.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, we know that a man who loves the movie
Blood Sport as much as you do has fantastic taste
and is a wise fellow. So let's start with.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
This, ste The Blood Sport is a metaphor for life.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
If you want to understand how to succeed in life,
just watch that movie and you'll get it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I totally agree Van Dam's finest, no question about that.
There's some reporting out there, Stephen, that you may also
be taking on wearing an so to speak with National
Security advisor. Can you give us any preview of that
or is it still TBD?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Right now, we're all just focused on supporting the Secretary
of State Rubio, who is a very good and close
friend of mine in his role right now, Dual hadded
as Secretary of State and is the head of the
National Security Council, and so all of our energy here
in this building and across the administration is focused on
supporting Secretary Rubio, again, someone who not only haven't become
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very close friends with but I've had a chance to
see him working up close and personal these last one
hundred days and also even before then, and he's really phenomenal.
And the President made absolute the right choice by giving
him this responsibility.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He is Secretary Rubio as well as I believe interm
National Security Advisor and also acting Administrator of USAID I
think at this point, right, so he's taken.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
On a bunch. Don't forget he's in charge of the
National Archives too.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh that's right, yeah, a lie.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's a testament to the fact that Marco deeply understands
and believes in the President's agenda and what President Trump
is trying to accomplish. And everyone in this building, everyone
across the administration, over these last one hundred days, has
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developed a deep admiration for Marco and what he's done
at State Department and what he's done in the other
roles he's been tapped to do. I mean, for example,
as you mentioned, the dismantlement of the communist slush fund
known as USAID. And so you know, Marco is that
rare combination of talent where he has the soft skills,
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the diplomacy and the ability to forge deals, but also
the hard skills, and we've seen that, and I've seen
it very directly in terms of Marco's work on migration
and his ability to really hard negotiations with foreign countries
to bend them into submission on cooperation that we need.
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So the President has made a tremendous choice with Marco,
and it's altogether the President's team across the board is
the strongest team you've ever had in this White House.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Steven, appreciate you coming on, appreciate all the work you're doing,
and we want you to come back on the program
when you're officially named NSA, but in the future that
might well.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Joel, I'm looking at right now is I want to
take over Marco's job of the National Archives.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I think I could do some great things there.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, I would actually love to get a behind
the scenes tour of the Archives, because I got to
do the World War Two Museum. They took me behind
the scenes, and as good as the actual things that
you get to see in the museum is the things
that they have in the archives that are not actually
publicly visible are some of the coolest things. I bet
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at almost every museum because they only get to show
you a small pinprick of whatever their overall collection is,
so that would actually be super cool as well. Let's
go into the first hundred days. Buck and I have
been ecstatic with everything that we have seen. How much
of the first hundred days just flood the zone strategy?
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Do you think has worked? And how do you keep
that pace up as we move into the next hundred
days and everybody is trying to run as fast as
they possibly can.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yes, well, the flood the zone strategy has worked exactly
as President Trump intended it to, which is shock and
awe against the forces of corruption that have been bleeding
this country of its wealth. That security is prestige. You know,
the worst mistake you can make when you are fighting
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the deep state, the radical left and they're outside supporters,
the common tess, the NGOs, the crazy judges, is to
spend a year debating and deliberating and discussing a decision
that everyone knows needs to get made, that everyone understands
has to happen, because all you're doing is given the
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opposition time to develop a resistance battle plan, in time
to engage in asymmetric bureaucratic warfare through leaks, through manipulation,
feeding information to the ACLU, feeding information to crazy judges,
feeding information to radical democrats on Capitol Hill. This is
an unfortunate situation that our country has found itself in.
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To put it in mild terms, that over the years,
over the decades, that we have developed this deep state
that is so committed to the destruction of America as
we know it. You know, the one of the ways
illustrate by the way to you know, to newer hires,
how the deep state works is I give this example.
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You had good news and you emailed it to one
thousand federal career bureaucrats. The odds of it leaking are
zero percent, Like you would never go out anywhere total
operational security and secrecy. If you send an email that
contained one thread that could be used to say, get
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an injunction against the policy by the ACLU, it would
leak in literally one second. So in other words, you
are running in operation the federal bureaucrats that in many
cases are trying to do everything they can to slow
you down and halt your progress. And all the things
that bureaucracy has been working on are all the things
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that President Trump ran against. Censorship, radical gender ideology, critical
race theory, the weaponization of the justice system, the weaponization
of the intelligence system, of course, most notably the policy
of open borders and master settlement and mass migration, all
of which was made possible by the full complicit participation
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of vast sUAS of the fellow bureaucracy that was implementing
those policies, that was advancing those policies, that was defending
those policies, and not to mention the worst thing and
the push to constantly try to perpetuate conflict around the world,
it's solving conflict around the world. So President Trump inherited
a historic mandate, a battleground landslide, the likes of which
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we have never seen before, to implement all these programs
that he campaigned on. And that is why he has
moved with such force, intention and speed to fulfill his
mandate and his obligation and his promise to the American people.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
We're speaking Stephen Miller, Deputy White House Chief of Staff,
and Stephen, we know that because of his status as
a special government employee, the plan all along has been
for Elon Musk to phase out of the sort of
day to day of DOGE and I believe that's coming
up late later this month. There's been a lot that
Doge has unearthed uncovered in terms of just crazy stuff.
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I mean, you mentioned the communist slush fund known as USAID.
Can we borrow that? By the way, Can I use that?
Can I use that? We're attributing to it to Stephen Miller,
But I want to say it going forward because it
is a communist slush fund. But there's also been this
question about recision from Congress, meaning that does Congress also
now have to do a lot or else none of
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the spending cuts actually happen. Can you just give us
some visibility into what happens next with Doge? And is
Congress in a place where because it's budgetary, they can
actually do some of the things that Doge recommends. And
you know, with irrespective of how some of these judges
have inflicted themselves on this too, well.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like so many things, the answer is all the above,
in the sense that the a lot of these savings
are self executing automatic. So for example, when's the ederal
employees resign or retire and take the payout, you know,
the so called fork in the Road email that went out,
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all of those savings are accrued automatically. You don't need
to go to Congress. That all happens automatically. You fire
federal workers or federal workers are it's called a reduction
in force. The outcronm for that is RIFF. All of
those reforms deliver both immediate and long term savings to
the American people. Congress has never established a floor of
federal employees. It just grew and grew and grew and.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Grew on its own.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And so those are going to be enormous and immense
savings for the American people. When you have agencies or
functions of government that were created through executive action and
that can therefore be terminated by executive action, again, those
are all savings that are going to be immediate, that
are going to be automatic, they're going to be long lasting.
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A lot of the discretionary grant spending to diversity, equity
and inclusion policies, for example, Congress never authorized any of
that spending in the first place. So you can save
an enormous amount of money just through administrative and executive action.
That there are additional programs that were created through previous
bills that are going to be rescinded. Both in the
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reconciliation bills. So, for example, the Reconciliation Bill is going
to cut a lot of the wasteful Biden spending, and
so you're going to see a lot of permanent savings
as a result of that. And then there's also opportunities
you mentioned recisions packages, and that's something that the Omb's
actively looking at in terms of what are the packages
of cuts that you can send to Congress that would
get privileged considerations, they wouldn't be subject to the filibuster,
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and could get cut with a Republican vote. So we're
looking at everything to lock in these savings and make
them permanent.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Stephen, are you even you surprised sometimes at the moronic
positions that Democrats take And I just want to give
too to you that I can't even believe are still real?
A Brao Garcia now is we're going to play the
audio we haven't yet. Wife is on audio begging for
a Maryland judge to protect her from him, and there
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is a report out there in the courts that she
said he could kill her and get away with it.
The video from the Tennessee Highway Patrol just went public
of him being a human trafficker that was up on
Fox News last night. You have Democrats going down to
El Salvador to visit him. The last time I think
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I saw you in person, Stephen, was at the University
of Alabama where Trump spoke and the where he was
going to the Georgia game. And then absolutely everybody goes
insane last night when he says, Hey, as long as
I'm president, there aren't going to be men competing in
women's sports. It's not only they're wrong on issues. Are
you astounded by the ways that they choose to fight
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on issues? I still can't get over it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, the Democrat Party is so deep in the throes
of Trump derangement syndrome that even if President Trump he
talked about this in his State of the Union address
or his address to Congress, you would if he came
out with a cure for cancer, the Democrats would say,
we are in favor of cancer and oppose your cure.
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So they're so disconnected from the needs of the American people.
They're so disconnected from the oaths they took upon assuming office,
or their obligations to serve the American people, that when
President Trump deports an illegal alien, gang banger in MS thirteen,
who is a wife beater, human trafficker. They leap to
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the defense of that alien and demand his return and
freedom in the United States as though. This is the
highest parody for the Democrat Party is the freedom of
foreign terrorists on American soil. Again, men and women sports
another great example where they are. They are fighting tooth
and nail all over the country in our school rules,
in our courtrooms, in Congress to protect the so called
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right of men to compete against women in athletics, to
use women's locker rooms, to use women's restrooms.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
The civil rights.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Cause of our time, according to Democrats, is the right
of all biological males in this country to use every
single facility that has historically been reserved for women and
to enter every single women's sporting league. So this is
what the Democratic Party is today. I mean, it's a
ship of lunatics.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yes, absolutely, And they can't walk away from this, which
is even more remarkable. Steven, we've only got about a
minute before we're going to be running into a break.
I just wanted you to lay out to the degree
you can deportations. We've seen a lot of great The
border is secure and I don't. We should never be
ungrateful for what an amazing job this administration has done.
It just happened so fast, I feel like people can't
even believe it. Ninety five percent production, that's amazing, but
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getting the bide in millions and millions beginning to turn
that around and deport them en mass. Is there a
plan for this? Is this going to happen?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Absolutely, and I wish we had more than a minute.
So the job number one for President Trump obviously was
to end all illegal immigration across the southern border, and
that was achieved, of course, in record time, into an
unprecedented degree. Then the focus increasingly shifts towards mobilizing the
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law enforcement resources that we need to expel those that
are here illegally who need to go home. The biggest
near term impediment to that goal, of course, are the
corpse and these radical leftist judges that are trying to
shut down the machinery of immigration enforcement nationwide. So we
are so Department Justice is pursuing a legal strategy with
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the hope that very soon the Supreme Court will swat
away these injunctions so that we can get to the
business of security in the American homeland in full force.
If the Supreme Court doesn't provide that relief. There are
many other options that I will not get into here
and what the president's inherent authorities and powers are. So
it isn't we're only waiting on the Supreme Court. It
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is the Supreme Court hopefully do the right thing, or
we have many other options our disposal. At the same time,
we're ramping up many other efforts bill be essential to
achieving mass deportation. So that includes, for example, enrolling state
and local law enforcement nationwide in assisting in supporting the
deportation effort, and that's going to be an increasing feature
and focus of what we're doing. We're going to get
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National Guard more engage in putting them into immigration enforcement
roles in a domestic law enforcement setting, which is allowable
under the twoentity seven G program that's used for set
on local law enforcement as well. And we're going to
also be working as we are right now with Congress
to pass legislation, the Reconciliation Bill that will more than
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double the number of deportation officers working in the federal government,
more than double the number of deportation beds. Is they
the bullet to the federal government and increase by leaps
and beats the number of deportation flights they're available to
the tell government. So the Reconciliation Bill is also going
to be essential in allowing immigration and Customs enforcement to
do their job. We have a whole series of strategies
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as well to expand self deportation. I think you've already
seen a lot of self deportation from this country based
on all the reports that we've gotten. We're going to
be putting that into hyperdrive as well too, and many
more strategies that we'll talk about next time. But as
all this deals come online, it gets put into effect,
you are going to see the removal numbers begin to explode.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Fantastic. Stephen Miller from the White House, thanks so much.
We appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
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Speaker 2 (31:45):
Buck Caroline Levitt talking about what the some of the
top line numbers are for this first one hundred days
of Trump two point zero play it.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So far, total investment commitments under the administration have reached
more than five trillion dollars, including five hundred billion from
Apple and US based manufacturing and training, five hundred billion
from Navidia and AI infrastructure, one hundred billion from TSMC
and US based chips manufacturing, and the five hundred billion
dollar private investment by OpenAI, Oracle and soft Bank in
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AI infrastructure as well. All of these investment commitments are
estimated to generate at least four hundred and fifty one
thousand new high paying jobs for American workers and families.
At this point, President Trump has secured more investments in
the United States of America in one hundred days than
Joe Biden did in four years.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Trump is a deal maker, as we know, Clay, and
we'll talk more about tariffs wat jd vance about that too.
But in terms of the economy being open for business
in this country, and particularly look at things like going
to maximize trying to maximize energy production, going after our
our own resources, a lot to be proud of so
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far in one hundred.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Days, totally. And some people are going to say because
the negative, given that we're at a one hundred days
is going to be Hey, let's look at the polling numbers.
Here's what I would say about the polls. First of all,
I don't really care. And you might say, Okay, what
do you mean by that Trump is not going to
be eligible to run for reelection? So I suspect that
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by the time Trump's term is coming near an end,
that he will be on a popularity upswing, like we
saw with Barack Obama and with Bill Clinton. By and large,
did you sign on to this, Buck that the only
two two term presidents that could have been reelected if
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they had been able to run would have been Bill
Clinton in two thousand and Barack Obama, I think would
have won in two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Now maybe not.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I also think Ronald Reagan, if he had been able
to run in nineteen eighty eight, even with his advanced age,
would have likely won two. I think Trump will be
at his peak popularity. Here's a three year in advance prediction.
Trump in the fall of twenty twenty eight will be
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at peak popularity because the impact of his trade agreements
and of his economic policies will be flourishing at a
high level. I think we will have peace, and I
think that if Trump were eligible to run for a
third term, that he would win again in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So I think very attia a lot of we can't
test the thesis one way or the other. I mean,
I think Bill Clinton is incredibly lucky as a politician,
the luck that that guy had on a whole range
of things. But if he had been in office when
nine to eleven actually happened, the straight line between him
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being an imbecile on foreign policy and missing every chance
and US getting hit with the worst attacks since Pearl
Harbor would have been irrefutable, even for Democrats. Also, the
stock market crash, also, a lot of things this guy
got out, But justin you disagree that he would have won.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I think he would have beaten George W.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Bush. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I think he would have won. I think Reagan would
have won an Ada. This is an argument in favor Reagan.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Regan.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Regan would have been too Reagan would have been too
old at that point. That would have been a problem
for him.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I think he would have won because the only reason
that George Bush Senior one was because Reagan was so beloved,
and obviously Ducacas was not a candidate. You don't think
Ronald Reagan would have beaten Doucacas in eighty eight, even Reagan,
he would have won.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You, I mean, if you're throwing in the mix, like
who he's going up against? You know, Barack Obama though
running Barack Obama runing against Donald Trump. Actually don't think
Barack Obama would have won. I think Trump, I think
I think I think he would have won that election.
I think that Obama would have beaten Trump in sixteen. Well,
remember not you and I disagree vociferously on it.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Remember Hillary. First of all, I don't think Trump would
have been the nominee necessarily, but Hillary came within whatever
it was eighty that Hillary was an awful candidate, right,
awful candidate she was. I mean even Democrats looking back,
they're like, man, you know she just I don't know
who she would have been able to beat. I think
Trump was a great candidate against her. Ran a phenomenal campaign.
(36:32):
But I actually think the best campaign Trump ran was
twenty four. Of his three election campaigns, Sixteen was phenomenal.
I think he was so well schooled by twenty four.
Sixteen was more haphazard. I think that this one was great. Again.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Sixteen was insurgency. He was the insurgency against the machine,
and just like happened sometimes in real life, the insurgency
overcame in the superior force in terms of battlefield operations.
And then in twenty four it was the comeback campaign,
so the Great American Comeback, which so the narratives I
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think were pretty clear in both of those. And then
twenty twenty was the COVID you know, freak show what
the hell is going on? Campaign for everybody, and I
know all the other stuff quote unquote shenanigans. We won't
talk about it right now, but anyway, Clay, I think
that Trump's first one hundred days, here's what we have
to remember about it. We wanted him to do the
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things we want him to do, the things that he
promised to do, and some of those things are disruptive,
and disruptive things can be a little bit off putting
sometimes to the markets. It can feel a little bit
you can create a little bit of anxiety among people
because oh wait, it's not exactly status quo is comfortable.
This is why so often, and particularly in politics, I
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think people get into inertia. Well, this is the way
it is, so, this is the way it will be,
this is the way we've done things, So let's keep
doing it that way. Trump isn't running again. I know
he jokes about the third term. That's the troll Libs.
It's like the fifty first state Canada. That's the troll.
You know, Canada and Trudeau and the rest of them. Clay,
he's not running again. We need him to do the
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things that a politician who's obsessed with his next election
won't do.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yes, And this.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Is what is so key.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's why I'm saying the polling I'm not focused on.
If he were trying to run for reelection, I think
you'll look at polling and you think about how that's
going to play out. He is uniquely liberated to do
what he thinks the right results are without having to
worry about the day to day polling. And by the way,
that is potentially going to run out in twenty twenty
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six when they're likely going to impeach Trump again. If
Democrats take back control of the House, they don't have
anything new to hit him with, so expect for them
to go back to the tried and true, failed method
of the past. We've already seen it with them trying
to broadcast and attack him by saying he's hitler. I
think where we are likely headed is Trump has got
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to get everything done between now and the summer of
twenty twenty six, and then we will see the House
come down to five or six different really close races,
and Democrats are either going to have a tiny minority
or Republicans are going to have a tiny majority. Right,
tiny leadership. I think that we're going to see in
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the Senate good stuff. Republicans are going to maintain control
of the Senate. So for judges things like that, Trump
is going to have four years to get his view
of the judiciary through, get as many different judges confirmed.
But in order to have both control of the House
and the Senate, he's got to be fast. He's got
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to be decisive, and I think that's what you're seeing
right now, and sometimes that's going to make people a
little bit upset. So that's why I'm not concerned about
any of the polling to the extent it's accurate as
we sit here in one hundred days, because he's making
decisions that are multi years in nature. Well, yes, and
this is why I want Trump to not care about
the polls right now, because the polls in a year
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as they pertain to the midterms, and the Republican Party
in its future will matter. The polls right now do
not matter at all. In fact, all the polls really
do is give a talking point to anti Trump media
and the Democrat Party that want to create a perception
of Oh, this isn't working, Oh this is failing. Trump
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should not be doing the things that he's doing. He's
doing what he promised to do when he ran. He
said he would take on the terriff issue. He said
he would get a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
He said he'd secure the border. You know, I could
go down the whole list. He's doing the things he
said he would do.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Some of these things are, as we've said, a departure
from the status quo. They are disruptive and so clay
by their very name nature. They're going to create a
little bit of friction and a little bit of uncertainty.
If you don't want that, you don't want change, you
don't want someone to fix anything, You just want more
of the same. I think we all need to remember
that the first one hundred days has been a plus. Overall.
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It's not perfect, nothing ever will be, and there's no certainties.
There's no guarantees in life. But he's doing what he
said he would do, and he I think he should
have our full support as he continues to pursue that mandate.
If he had veered off into nonsense, I'd be saying,
why did he veer off into nonsense? That's not what
has happened.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I also think, and we'll talk about this more, the
next one hundred days or so are set up to
be incredibly consequential. Hopefully we get some form of resolution
in Ukraine, more resolution in Gaza, and again inflation, which
to me, I'll hit you when we come back, Buck
with what the American public from an economic perspective is
most focused on, and inflation is at four year lows.
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To me, that is the number one laser focus. After
Biden took us over nine percent, people still feel like
things cost more than they should
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
One hundred days of the Trump Fance administration, and we
are joined now by Vice President JD. Vans, and we're
going to get into all the successes the border and more.
But JD, I don't know if you've answered this question,
But on the first day of your administration, Ohio State
won the National Championship against Notre Dame. But you had
a ton of obligations as the newly inaugurated vice president.
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Do you have like an official Buckeye guy who was
following you around that day giving you updates during the
course of the game. I know you're a big fan.
I've actually I wondered about it that night. I don't
know if you've answered it. I would have if my
University of Tennessee ever gets back in the title game,
I would be terrified to miss any of it. What
was your play there for National Title Game day as
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a Buckeye?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah, so there are a couple of different things going on.
So first I actually talked to my team about whether
it would be possible to skip the inaugural balls so
that I would be able to go to the game.
And actually, you know, I guess we'd get inaugurated, we'd
go to a few parties, and then I'd be able
to watch the game while the president took care of
the inaugural balls. The team was not a huge fan
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of that. Apparently it would have been unprecedent for vice
president to skip the inaugural balls the night of the inauguration.
What we were able to do, though, is before the
first ball, I actually had all of my friends and family.
We got basically we turned a big hotel room into
a sports bar, and so I was able to watch
the first quarter before the first ball, and I think
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it was either right after the second or the third ball,
Notre Dame started to come back a little bit, and
so I sat in a room with like a nineteen
inch TV and just sort of watched the Buckeyes put
it away. So I got to see a little bit
of it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
But yeah, it's it's on the one hand, like, what
what a cool day for an Ohio State fan to
be inaugurated as the vice president have your team within
a national championship. On the other hand, was sad to
miss most of the game, but you know, official duties
come first.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Bet Jeddie.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I was also happy to see Vice President of Vance,
very happy to see my beloved Buck. Guys do so well,
I want to ask you. I want to ask you
about a border if I can, and what's going on
with the administration on Well, let's get into the next steps.
The good news is you can sit here and tell us.
But Clay and I've been telling everybody about this. So far,
the border is secure ninety five percent drop. The stats
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speak for themselves. Biden kicked the border wide open. It
was a choice. Trump has actually secured the border. Fantastic.
We still have millions and millions of illegals who came
in under Biden. What should we expect from the perspective
of building on the border successes so far in the
next six to twelve months.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, well, obviously we know we have to ramp up
to deportations, and the President talks about this all the time,
both in public and private. It's something that I'm very
focused on. And a lot of this comes down to,
I mean, it turns out we've got to do some
battle with some really crazy far left judges in order
to allow the administration to do what it actually needs
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to do. And I will say, to great credit, the
President expected this when we came in. He said, you know,
we're going to start deporting people, and a lot of
these far left judges are going to stop us, and
there's no way out of it but through it, and
we're just going to have to battle. We're going to
have to win the court cases. We're going to have
to take some of this stuff all the way to
the Supreme Court, and we're going to have to find
alternative ways to deport people. When the judges say you
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can't do this method, we're gonna have to find another method.
So we recognize that we're dealing battle here, or doing
battle with basically a massive bureaucracy that has decided that
it rules the country rather than the American people. And
I think one of the biggest takeaways of the one
hundred days is, yes, we've got a lot of successes.
We've also revealed ways in which this deeply entrenched bureaucracy
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tries to fight the will of the American people. And
thank god, we've got a vice president and a president
who are pushing back against it. And that's exactly what
we told the American people we would do. That's exactly
what we're doing. But I think that is really the
biggest focal point of immigration policy over the next six
to twelve months, is to empower all of the people
in the administration, from Tom Homer and Christynome to the
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border patrol agents on the ground to do their job
and to get a lot of these people out of
our country. Now that said, we have had great success,
but we're not resting on our laurels here. We're shutting
down the border traffic coming into the country and we're
dealing with what Biden left us simultaneously.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
That's exactly what we have to do.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
You're not only an Ohio State grad, you're also a
Yale law grad. And you just talked about where the
resistance two point zero, I would say, is coming from,
largely the six hundred and some odd district court judges
who are regularly putting in place nationwide injunctions. What's a
fix to that? And are even you surprised by how
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aggressive the judiciary has been to try to strip the
president's executive authority.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know, I'm not surprised by it, because again, the
president actually expected this. He told us this would happen.
You know, he felt and I think he was right
about this, that you know, the left felt defeated in
a certain way, that there were a lot of you know,
grassroots activists that just weren't nearly as fired up in
twenty twenty four as they were in twenty sixteen. And
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he's talking about people on the far left. But he
said that, look at the courts are going to try
to stop everything that we do. And it's actually not
just immigration. I mean, the courts have tried to stop
Pete Hegseth from not allowing you know, transgender military personnel
to continue serving.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
They've done a lot, I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Which goes to the heart of military readiness, right the
Secretary of Defense saying that, you know, if you're dealing
with a serious mental health issue, our compassion goes with you,
but you can't be deployed to the battlefield like that.
That is the heart of the president and the Secretary
of Defense's authorities. And so you have these district courts
who really want to run the country and have decided
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that they are actually in charge of the United States
of America. There's this very funny I think headline from
the Babylon be that was, you know, something like Donald
Trump considers resigning to become a very powerful district court judge.
But it's one of these jokes with a kernel of truth,
which is that the district courts in this country have
tried to take upon themselves powers that belong to the President.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Of the United States.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And it's funny, guys, you know, you hear the media
and they'll say, well, this is a constitutional crisis. And
the constitutional crisis is not Donald Trump refusing to allow
the district courts to govern the country. The crisis is
the district courts trying to govern the country and our approaches.
We're fighting it legally, of course, we're taking some of
these cases to the Supreme Court and we think we're
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going to get success there. We're finding alternative methods to
do what we need to do in compliance with the law.
And we're just going to have to keep on fighting this,
you know, day by day, figuring out where the district courts.
And it's to be clear, it's not all district courts.
It's the far left crazies. But when these far left
crazies stop it and try to prevent the president from
doing his job. We've got to do it through alternative means,
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and that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We're speaking of Vice President Vance, and mister Vice President,
let me ask you about how things are going at
this stage with not just identifying the waste, fraud and
abuse within the government, a big mission that DOGE has
taken upon itself. But what we can expect now, how
much of this do you think has been completed when
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you look at Elon and Doge's mission. Does Congress have
to play a major role with recisions? Essentially, we know
there's a lot of shenanigans going on, but how do
we actually get the shenanigans in government spending to stop?
Where are we on that?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, I think we're making a lot of progress. I
wouldn't say that it's done by any means. And yes,
Congress has a role because here, here's what happens. If
DOGE and Elon find ten billion dollars of spending, that's
just ridiculous. That's not consistent with the law or with
the admitted tration's policy priorities. That money just kind of
sits there and so it's still been taxed from the
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American people. And if we want to use it to
pay down debt or to give it back to the
American people through tax relief, then that does require an
Act of Congress, and I think Congress is very willing
to do it.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But I don't know if you saw.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I think it was today or maybe yesterday, a report
came out that Treasury actually is borrowing less money than they.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Expected to borrow.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And I think that's because of the success of DOGE.
You're seeing them make meaningful cuts in some of these
crazy foreign aid programs. But I also think they're finding
a lot of fraud in programs that are meant for
American citizens that are going either to illegal aliens or
to complete fraudsters. And so I think DOGE is making
a lot of progress, but it's not done, and I
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don't think it's ever going to be truly done right.
This is one of these problems that we have to
continually fight against. And the reason why it was such
a shock to the system is we had allowed the
waste and the fraud to become so endemic in the
way that we did government in this country. And I
don't I think we should ever go back, And I
actually do think and maybe this is too optimistic that
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when all the political controversy is cleared, we look back
on this a few years from now, we're going to
realize that doges saved the American people a lot of money,
that cut a lot of fraud out of our government,
and that even some Democrats are going to say, well,
we have to keep doing this, because we can't just
let hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud every single
year become part of how the US government functions.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We're talking to Vice President jd Vance. You guys have
made tremendous strides with young men. The data continues to
reflect that young men are breaking for both you and
Donald Trump in big numbers. I think a big part
of that is because young men are over this idea
of men being able to play women's sports. I can't
believe this is even a thing. Nike, you may have seen,
(09:49):
recently paid for a study on minors to study trans
drugs and how it might impact athletics. How did the
world get it's so broken here? What are companies like
Nike even trying to accomplish? And this feels like an
eighty twenty ninety ten issue for Americans. Do you feel
that when you're out and about, I.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Do feel that.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I definitely think it's a winning political issue for the
Republican Party because it's just basic common sense, right. I mean,
people don't want women competing against grown men and sports,
especially in some of these contact sports where the women
could get injured. You know, I'm the father of a
three year old daughter. I'd like her to play sports.
I think it teaches valuable life lessons, but I don't
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want her competing against grown men when she does it.
This is just, again, it's basic common sense. I think
it's the basic masculine instinct to protect young women. And
one of the ways you do that is to not
let you know, a male boxer in the room with
a female boxer. Just things like that I think have
turned it into a ninety ten issue, that basic common sense.
But man, I think that so many of these companies,
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Nike or otherwise, they got caught up in this cultural
zeitgeist of twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and it's like,
I don't know, maybe they just thought the Progressors were
going to win, and so they decided to fund this
stuff to the hilt, not realizing that the American people
would have a rebellion against the craziness. I think that
rebellion on the trans issue in particular. I mean, think
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about this, giving hormonal therapies to twelve year old kids,
causing irreversible damage to their bodies, forcing young girls to
compete against boys in sports, sometimes causing serious injury in
the process. I think this issue is such a bad
loser among the American people that even some of the
true believers have dropped it as a political issue. But
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I think it's our job to remind the American people
this is what they've tried to do, this is what
they're promising to do. The trans issue hasn't gone away.
You just had some Democrats who are smart enough to
recognize it's a political loser. But yeah, they're going to
try to force twelve year olds to take cross sex hormones,
and they're going to try to force young girls to
compete against young boys if we give these power. The craziness,
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in other words, hasn't gotten away. They've just gotten a
little bit better at hiding it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Mister Vice President, one more for you. Appreciate you making
the time for us today. The tariff's issue is something
that has gotten a lot of attension on this show
across the country for obvious reasons. People are very attuned
to what the Trump negotiations with these countries and his
approach to China is doing to the economy, the market
prices everything. Wall Street Journal being a little salty about
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it today on their front page. What do you say
to anyone who is trying to steer Donald Trump away
from this course because they're a little nervous about the
tariff situation.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So I've had so many conversations guys in private with
the President about this, and I think his public statements,
I mean, going back to the nineteen eighties, this is
an issue that he feels very deeply about. I happen
to think that he's right. He campaigned on it, the
American people elected him on it, and there's a lot
of misinformation out there. There's a lot of people saying, well,
Donald Trump doesn't know what he's actually doing. Look, I
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promise you I've spent many hours discussing these issues with
Donald Trump. You can disagree with him, but he knows
exactly what he's doing. And here's the fundamental problem. America
doesn't produce enough of its own stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
That is the issue.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
We don't have enough manufacturing in our own country. We're
too reliant on sometimes hostile foreign powers to make the
things that we need. And that's true in electronics, it's
true in technology, it's true in God forbid. You know,
we've had shortages of critical pharmaceuticals in this country over
the last few years. We cannot have a real successful,
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prosperous country if we're dependent on the communist Chinese.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
For the drugs that we put into the bodies of
our children.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And so what the President has said here is, yes,
this is going to be disruptive, Yes this is going
to require some transition, but he's fundamentally committed to the
basic process of manufacturing more in the United States, creating
good paying jobs in the process, but more fundamentally make
King America more self reliant. And I think the problem
is that we had a bipartisan consensus in this country
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for forty years that we could just ship all of
our heavy industry overseas, that we could ship a lot
of our good jobs overseas, a lot of our factories,
and that somehow that would make the United States more prosperous.
I think the reality is that it's made us weaker.
It's made us more dependent on the communist Chinese. And
when you see, for example, the Chinese respond to the
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President's trade policy by saying, well, we're going to cut
off the United States from critical supplies that are necessary
for the American people, doesn't that just prove that Donald
Trump was right? How did we ever get into the
position where the People's Republic of China could threaten the
American people with the loss of critical supplies. And given
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that we are in that position, Donald Trump is exactly
right that we have to get out of it. I'm
not going to tell you it's going to be easy,
because it's not. But it's necessary, and I think the
President recognizes he is a once in a generation opportunity.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Need to do it. JD.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Van's, Vice President of the United States. Congratulations on the
first hundred days and your Ohio state Buck, guys being
the national champs. We hope to talk to you again soon.
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Stick here you're listening to Team forty seven with Clay
and Buck.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
We are joined by Deputy White House Chief of Staff
Steven Miller, one of the sharpest minds in this White House.
The policy maestro extraordinaire Steven. Great to have you back
on the program.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Thank you appreciate that very generous introduction. I promise I'm
not paying him anything for those kind words.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, we know that a man who loves the movie
Blood Sport as much as you do has fantastic taste
and is a wise fellow. So let's start with.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
This, ste The Blood Sport is a metaphor for life.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
If you want to understand how to succeed in life,
just watch that movie and you'll get it.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I totally agree Van Dam's finest, no question about that.
There's some reporting out there, Stephen, that you may also
be taking on wearing an so to speak with National
Security advisor. Can you give us any preview of that
or is it still TBD?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Right now, we're all just focused on supporting the Secretary
of State Rubio, who is a very good and close
friend of mine in his role right now, Dual hadded
as Secretary of State and is the head of the
National Security Council, and so all of our energy here
in this building and across the administration is focused on
supporting Secretary Rubio, again, someone who not only haven't become
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very close friends with but I've had a chance to
see him working up close and personal these last one
hundred days and also even before then, and he's really phenomenal.
And the President made absolute the right choice by giving
him this responsibility.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He is Secretary Rubio as well as I believe interm
National Security Advisor and also acting Administrator of USAID I
think at this point, right, so he's taken.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
On a bunch. Don't forget he's in charge of the
National Archives too.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Oh that's right, yeah, a lie.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It's a testament to the fact that Marco deeply understands
and believes in the President's agenda and what President Trump
is trying to accomplish. And everyone in this building, everyone
across the administration, over these last one hundred days, has
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developed a deep admiration for Marco and what he's done
at State Department and what he's done in the other
roles he's been tapped to do. I mean, for example,
as you mentioned, the dismantlement of the communist slush fund
known as USAID. And so you know, Marco is that
rare combination of talent where he has the soft skills,
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the diplomacy and the ability to forge deals, but also
the hard skills, and we've seen that, and I've seen
it very directly in terms of Marco's work on migration
and his ability to really hard negotiations with foreign countries
to bend them into submission on cooperation that we need.
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So the President has made a tremendous choice with Marco,
and it's altogether the President's team across the board is
the strongest team you've ever had in this White House.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Steven, appreciate you coming on, appreciate all the work you're doing,
and we want you to come back on the program
when you're officially named NSA, but in the future that
might well.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Joel, I'm looking at right now is I want to
take over Marco's job of the National Archives.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I think I could do some great things there.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, I would actually love to get a behind
the scenes tour of the Archives, because I got to
do the World War Two Museum. They took me behind
the scenes, and as good as the actual things that
you get to see in the museum is the things
that they have in the archives that are not actually
publicly visible are some of the coolest things. I bet
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at almost every museum because they only get to show
you a small pinprick of whatever their overall collection is,
so that would actually be super cool as well. Let's
go into the first hundred days. Buck and I have
been ecstatic with everything that we have seen. How much
of the first hundred days just flood the zone strategy?
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Do you think has worked? And how do you keep
that pace up as we move into the next hundred
days and everybody is trying to run as fast as
they possibly can.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yes, well, the flood the zone strategy has worked exactly
as President Trump intended it to, which is shock and
awe against the forces of corruption that have been bleeding
this country of its wealth. That security is prestige. You know,
the worst mistake you can make when you are fighting
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the deep state, the radical left and they're outside supporters,
the common tess, the NGOs, the crazy judges, is to
spend a year debating and deliberating and discussing a decision
that everyone knows needs to get made, that everyone understands
has to happen, because all you're doing is given the
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opposition time to develop a resistance battle plan, in time
to engage in asymmetric bureaucratic warfare through leaks, through manipulation,
feeding information to the ACLU, feeding information to crazy judges,
feeding information to radical democrats on Capitol Hill. This is
an unfortunate situation that our country has found itself in.
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To put it in mild terms, that over the years,
over the decades, that we have developed this deep state
that is so committed to the destruction of America as
we know it. You know, the one of the ways
illustrate by the way to you know, to newer hires,
how the deep state works is I give this example.
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You had good news and you emailed it to one
thousand federal career bureaucrats. The odds of it leaking are
zero percent, Like you would never go out anywhere total
operational security and secrecy. If you send an email that
contained one thread that could be used to say, get
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an injunction against the policy by the ACLU, it would
leak in literally one second. So in other words, you
are running in operation the federal bureaucrats that in many
cases are trying to do everything they can to slow
you down and halt your progress. And all the things
that bureaucracy has been working on are all the things
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that President Trump ran against. Censorship, radical gender ideology, critical
race theory, the weaponization of the justice system, the weaponization
of the intelligence system, of course, most notably the policy
of open borders and master settlement and mass migration, all
of which was made possible by the full complicit participation
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of vast sUAS of the fellow bureaucracy that was implementing
those policies, that was advancing those policies, that was defending
those policies, and not to mention the worst thing and
the push to constantly try to perpetuate conflict around the world,
it's solving conflict around the world. So President Trump inherited
a historic mandate, a battleground landslide, the likes of which
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we have never seen before, to implement all these programs
that he campaigned on. And that is why he has
moved with such force, intention and speed to fulfill his
mandate and his obligation and his promise to the American people.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
We're speaking Stephen Miller, Deputy White House Chief of Staff,
and Stephen, we know that because of his status as
a special government employee, the plan all along has been
for Elon Musk to phase out of the sort of
day to day of DOGE and I believe that's coming
up late later this month. There's been a lot that
Doge has unearthed uncovered in terms of just crazy stuff.
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I mean, you mentioned the communist slush fund known as USAID.
Can we borrow that? By the way, Can I use that?
Can I use that? We're attributing to it to Stephen Miller,
But I want to say it going forward because it
is a communist slush fund. But there's also been this
question about recision from Congress, meaning that does Congress also
now have to do a lot or else none of
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the spending cuts actually happen. Can you just give us
some visibility into what happens next with Doge? And is
Congress in a place where because it's budgetary, they can
actually do some of the things that Doge recommends. And
you know, with irrespective of how some of these judges
have inflicted themselves on this too, well.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like so many things, the answer is all the above,
in the sense that the a lot of these savings
are self executing automatic. So for example, when's the ederal
employees resign or retire and take the payout, you know,
the so called fork in the Road email that went out,
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all of those savings are accrued automatically. You don't need
to go to Congress. That all happens automatically. You fire
federal workers or federal workers are it's called a reduction
in force. The outcronm for that is RIFF. All of
those reforms deliver both immediate and long term savings to
the American people. Congress has never established a floor of
federal employees. It just grew and grew and grew and.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Grew on its own.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And so those are going to be enormous and immense
savings for the American people. When you have agencies or
functions of government that were created through executive action and
that can therefore be terminated by executive action, again, those
are all savings that are going to be immediate, that
are going to be automatic, they're going to be long lasting.
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A lot of the discretionary grant spending to diversity, equity
and inclusion policies, for example, Congress never authorized any of
that spending in the first place. So you can save
an enormous amount of money just through administrative and executive action.
That there are additional programs that were created through previous
bills that are going to be rescinded. Both in the
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reconciliation bills. So, for example, the Reconciliation Bill is going
to cut a lot of the wasteful Biden spending, and
so you're going to see a lot of permanent savings
as a result of that. And then there's also opportunities
you mentioned recisions packages, and that's something that the Omb's
actively looking at in terms of what are the packages
of cuts that you can send to Congress that would
get privileged considerations, they wouldn't be subject to the filibuster,
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and could get cut with a Republican vote. So we're
looking at everything to lock in these savings and make
them permanent.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Stephen, are you even you surprised sometimes at the moronic
positions that Democrats take And I just want to give
too to you that I can't even believe are still real?
A Brao Garcia now is we're going to play the
audio we haven't yet. Wife is on audio begging for
a Maryland judge to protect her from him, and there
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is a report out there in the courts that she
said he could kill her and get away with it.
The video from the Tennessee Highway Patrol just went public
of him being a human trafficker that was up on
Fox News last night. You have Democrats going down to
El Salvador to visit him. The last time I think
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I saw you in person, Stephen, was at the University
of Alabama where Trump spoke and the where he was
going to the Georgia game. And then absolutely everybody goes
insane last night when he says, Hey, as long as
I'm president, there aren't going to be men competing in
women's sports. It's not only they're wrong on issues. Are
you astounded by the ways that they choose to fight
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on issues? I still can't get over it.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Well, the Democrat Party is so deep in the throes
of Trump derangement syndrome that even if President Trump he
talked about this in his State of the Union address
or his address to Congress, you would if he came
out with a cure for cancer, the Democrats would say,
we are in favor of cancer and oppose your cure.
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So they're so disconnected from the needs of the American people.
They're so disconnected from the oaths they took upon assuming office,
or their obligations to serve the American people, that when
President Trump deports an illegal alien, gang banger in MS thirteen,
who is a wife beater, human trafficker. They leap to
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the defense of that alien and demand his return and
freedom in the United States as though. This is the
highest parody for the Democrat Party is the freedom of
foreign terrorists on American soil. Again, men and women sports
another great example where they are. They are fighting tooth
and nail all over the country in our school rules,
in our courtrooms, in Congress to protect the so called
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right of men to compete against women in athletics, to
use women's locker rooms, to use women's restrooms.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
The civil rights.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Cause of our time, according to Democrats, is the right
of all biological males in this country to use every
single facility that has historically been reserved for women and
to enter every single women's sporting league. So this is
what the Democratic Party is today. I mean, it's a
ship of lunatics.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yes, absolutely, And they can't walk away from this, which
is even more remarkable. Steven, we've only got about a
minute before we're going to be running into a break.
I just wanted you to lay out to the degree
you can deportations. We've seen a lot of great The
border is secure and I don't. We should never be
ungrateful for what an amazing job this administration has done.
It just happened so fast, I feel like people can't
even believe it. Ninety five percent production, that's amazing, but
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getting the bide in millions and millions beginning to turn
that around and deport them en mass. Is there a
plan for this? Is this going to happen?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Absolutely, and I wish we had more than a minute.
So the job number one for President Trump obviously was
to end all illegal immigration across the southern border, and
that was achieved, of course, in record time, into an
unprecedented degree. Then the focus increasingly shifts towards mobilizing the
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law enforcement resources that we need to expel those that
are here illegally who need to go home. The biggest
near term impediment to that goal, of course, are the
corpse and these radical leftist judges that are trying to
shut down the machinery of immigration enforcement nationwide. So we
are so Department Justice is pursuing a legal strategy with
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the hope that very soon the Supreme Court will swat
away these injunctions so that we can get to the
business of security in the American homeland in full force.
If the Supreme Court doesn't provide that relief. There are
many other options that I will not get into here
and what the president's inherent authorities and powers are. So
it isn't we're only waiting on the Supreme Court. It
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is the Supreme Court hopefully do the right thing, or
we have many other options our disposal. At the same time,
we're ramping up many other efforts bill be essential to
achieving mass deportation. So that includes, for example, enrolling state
and local law enforcement nationwide in assisting in supporting the
deportation effort, and that's going to be an increasing feature
and focus of what we're doing. We're going to get
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National Guard more engage in putting them into immigration enforcement
roles in a domestic law enforcement setting, which is allowable
under the twoentity seven G program that's used for set
on local law enforcement as well. And we're going to
also be working as we are right now with Congress
to pass legislation, the Reconciliation Bill that will more than
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double the number of deportation officers working in the federal government,
more than double the number of deportation beds. Is they
the bullet to the federal government and increase by leaps
and beats the number of deportation flights they're available to
the tell government. So the Reconciliation Bill is also going
to be essential in allowing immigration and Customs enforcement to
do their job. We have a whole series of strategies
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as well to expand self deportation. I think you've already
seen a lot of self deportation from this country based
on all the reports that we've gotten. We're going to
be putting that into hyperdrive as well too, and many
more strategies that we'll talk about next time. But as
all this deals come online, it gets put into effect,
you are going to see the removal numbers begin to explode.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Fantastic. Stephen Miller from the White House, thanks so much.
We appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
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Speaker 2 (31:45):
Buck Caroline Levitt talking about what the some of the
top line numbers are for this first one hundred days
of Trump two point zero play it.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
So far, total investment commitments under the administration have reached
more than five trillion dollars, including five hundred billion from
Apple and US based manufacturing and training, five hundred billion
from Navidia and AI infrastructure, one hundred billion from TSMC
and US based chips manufacturing, and the five hundred billion
dollar private investment by OpenAI, Oracle and soft Bank in
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AI infrastructure as well. All of these investment commitments are
estimated to generate at least four hundred and fifty one
thousand new high paying jobs for American workers and families.
At this point, President Trump has secured more investments in
the United States of America in one hundred days than
Joe Biden did in four years.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Trump is a deal maker, as we know, Clay, and
we'll talk more about tariffs wat jd vance about that too.
But in terms of the economy being open for business
in this country, and particularly look at things like going
to maximize trying to maximize energy production, going after our
our own resources, a lot to be proud of so
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far in one hundred.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Days, totally. And some people are going to say because
the negative, given that we're at a one hundred days
is going to be Hey, let's look at the polling numbers.
Here's what I would say about the polls. First of all,
I don't really care. And you might say, Okay, what
do you mean by that Trump is not going to
be eligible to run for reelection? So I suspect that
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by the time Trump's term is coming near an end,
that he will be on a popularity upswing, like we
saw with Barack Obama and with Bill Clinton. By and large,
did you sign on to this, Buck that the only
two two term presidents that could have been reelected if
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they had been able to run would have been Bill
Clinton in two thousand and Barack Obama, I think would
have won in two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Now maybe not.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I also think Ronald Reagan, if he had been able
to run in nineteen eighty eight, even with his advanced age,
would have likely won two. I think Trump will be
at his peak popularity. Here's a three year in advance prediction.
Trump in the fall of twenty twenty eight will be
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at peak popularity because the impact of his trade agreements
and of his economic policies will be flourishing at a
high level. I think we will have peace, and I
think that if Trump were eligible to run for a
third term, that he would win again in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So I think very attia a lot of we can't
test the thesis one way or the other. I mean,
I think Bill Clinton is incredibly lucky as a politician,
the luck that that guy had on a whole range
of things. But if he had been in office when
nine to eleven actually happened, the straight line between him
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being an imbecile on foreign policy and missing every chance
and US getting hit with the worst attacks since Pearl
Harbor would have been irrefutable, even for Democrats. Also, the
stock market crash, also, a lot of things this guy
got out, But justin you disagree that he would have won.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I think he would have beaten George W.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Bush. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I think he would have won. I think Reagan would
have won an Ada. This is an argument in favor Reagan.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Regan.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Regan would have been too Reagan would have been too
old at that point. That would have been a problem
for him.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I think he would have won because the only reason
that George Bush Senior one was because Reagan was so beloved,
and obviously Ducacas was not a candidate. You don't think
Ronald Reagan would have beaten Doucacas in eighty eight, even Reagan,
he would have won.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
You, I mean, if you're throwing in the mix, like
who he's going up against? You know, Barack Obama though
running Barack Obama runing against Donald Trump. Actually don't think
Barack Obama would have won. I think Trump, I think
I think I think he would have won that election.
I think that Obama would have beaten Trump in sixteen. Well,
remember not you and I disagree vociferously on it.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Remember Hillary. First of all, I don't think Trump would
have been the nominee necessarily, but Hillary came within whatever
it was eighty that Hillary was an awful candidate, right,
awful candidate she was. I mean even Democrats looking back,
they're like, man, you know she just I don't know
who she would have been able to beat. I think
Trump was a great candidate against her. Ran a phenomenal campaign.
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But I actually think the best campaign Trump ran was
twenty four. Of his three election campaigns, Sixteen was phenomenal.
I think he was so well schooled by twenty four.
Sixteen was more haphazard. I think that this one was great. Again.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Sixteen was insurgency. He was the insurgency against the machine,
and just like happened sometimes in real life, the insurgency
overcame in the superior force in terms of battlefield operations.
And then in twenty four it was the comeback campaign,
so the Great American Comeback, which so the narratives I
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think were pretty clear in both of those. And then
twenty twenty was the COVID you know, freak show what
the hell is going on? Campaign for everybody, and I
know all the other stuff quote unquote shenanigans. We won't
talk about it right now, but anyway, Clay, I think
that Trump's first one hundred days, here's what we have
to remember about it. We wanted him to do the
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things we want him to do, the things that he
promised to do, and some of those things are disruptive,
and disruptive things can be a little bit off putting
sometimes to the markets. It can feel a little bit
you can create a little bit of anxiety among people
because oh wait, it's not exactly status quo is comfortable.
This is why so often, and particularly in politics, I
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think people get into inertia. Well, this is the way
it is, so, this is the way it will be,
this is the way we've done things, So let's keep
doing it that way. Trump isn't running again. I know
he jokes about the third term. That's the troll Libs.
It's like the fifty first state Canada. That's the troll.
You know, Canada and Trudeau and the rest of them. Clay,
he's not running again. We need him to do the
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things that a politician who's obsessed with his next election
won't do.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yes, And this.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Is what is so key.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's why I'm saying the polling I'm not focused on.
If he were trying to run for reelection, I think
you'll look at polling and you think about how that's
going to play out. He is uniquely liberated to do
what he thinks the right results are without having to
worry about the day to day polling. And by the way,
that is potentially going to run out in twenty twenty
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six when they're likely going to impeach Trump again. If
Democrats take back control of the House, they don't have
anything new to hit him with, so expect for them
to go back to the tried and true, failed method
of the past. We've already seen it with them trying
to broadcast and attack him by saying he's hitler. I
think where we are likely headed is Trump has got
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to get everything done between now and the summer of
twenty twenty six, and then we will see the House
come down to five or six different really close races,
and Democrats are either going to have a tiny minority
or Republicans are going to have a tiny majority. Right,
tiny leadership. I think that we're going to see in
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the Senate good stuff. Republicans are going to maintain control
of the Senate. So for judges things like that, Trump
is going to have four years to get his view
of the judiciary through, get as many different judges confirmed.
But in order to have both control of the House
and the Senate, he's got to be fast. He's got
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to be decisive, and I think that's what you're seeing
right now, and sometimes that's going to make people a
little bit upset. So that's why I'm not concerned about
any of the polling to the extent it's accurate as
we sit here in one hundred days, because he's making
decisions that are multi years in nature. Well, yes, and
this is why I want Trump to not care about
the polls right now, because the polls in a year
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as they pertain to the midterms, and the Republican Party
in its future will matter. The polls right now do
not matter at all. In fact, all the polls really
do is give a talking point to anti Trump media
and the Democrat Party that want to create a perception
of Oh, this isn't working, Oh this is failing. Trump
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should not be doing the things that he's doing. He's
doing what he promised to do when he ran. He
said he would take on the terriff issue. He said
he would get a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.
He said he'd secure the border. You know, I could
go down the whole list. He's doing the things he
said he would do.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Some of these things are, as we've said, a departure
from the status quo. They are disruptive and so clay
by their very name nature. They're going to create a
little bit of friction and a little bit of uncertainty.
If you don't want that, you don't want change, you
don't want someone to fix anything, You just want more
of the same. I think we all need to remember
that the first one hundred days has been a plus. Overall.
(41:17):
It's not perfect, nothing ever will be, and there's no certainties.
There's no guarantees in life. But he's doing what he
said he would do, and he I think he should
have our full support as he continues to pursue that mandate.
If he had veered off into nonsense, I'd be saying,
why did he veer off into nonsense? That's not what
has happened.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I also think, and we'll talk about this more, the
next one hundred days or so are set up to
be incredibly consequential. Hopefully we get some form of resolution
in Ukraine, more resolution in Gaza, and again inflation, which
to me, I'll hit you when we come back, Buck
with what the American public from an economic perspective is
most focused on, and inflation is at four year lows.
(41:59):
To me, that is the number one laser focus. After
Biden took us over nine percent, people still feel like
things cost more than they should
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