May 25, 2025 • 40 mins
White House Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair explains what the big, beautiful bill will do. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky discusses his objections to the big, beautiful bill passed by the House and provides his medical opinion on Joe Biden’s cancer diagnosis. Jay Feely, running for Congress in Arizona’s 5th congressional district to replace Andy Biggs, who is running for governor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
We are joined now by James Blair, White House Deputy
Chief of Staff, aka the Oracle.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Joining us now.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
All right, So that's a pretty cool nickname, and I
imagine that doesn't sneak to be the White House Cheep
of Staff deputy that is known as the Oracle. So
let me ask you for your predictions, Oracle, on how
the Big Beautiful Bill is going to go and what
should this audience know about it from your perspective.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Gonna be with you, guys. I think that the Big
Beautiful Bill will get out of the House this week.
I think that obviously, if it gets out of the
House this week, then it will go over to the Senate.
They'll work on it for a few weeks, and the
goal is to get it on the President's tax by
July fourth, which I think will happen. Look, we've got
to get this done. This bill has so much to love, guys.
(01:00):
First of all, let's talk about the border first and foremost,
which nobody's talking about anymore because the President has driven
illegal border crossings to zero since he came into office.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
But this bill.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Funds border Enforcement, adds ten thousand new ICE officers, gives
them pay raises, gives us everything we need logistically to
not only keep the border secure for the president's entire
term in office so we don't have to come back
and do this again, but also to deport people and
get millions of illegal immigrants out of this country, which
is something that a majority of the American people support. Secondarily,
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it gives us the funding we need for our military.
You know that the President is involved in complex negotiations
across the globe to bring peace that's backed up through strength.
And it gives us the funding to modernize our military
and make sure it's the most lethal fighting force in
the world for the foreseeable future. But then the big
thing that it does it everyone's talking about is the
tax cuts. This renews the President's historic tax cut from
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twenty seventeen that was the biggest in history, and then
adds more taxes on top everything he campaigned on. No
tax on tips, no tax on social security, no tax
on overtime pay. It will be the single largest tax
cut for middle and working class Americans in the history
of the country, and it will do that while still
generating more than a trillion dollars right now, one point
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seven trillion dollars in savings for the American taxpayer, which
is twice as much savings that has ever been delivered
by Congress in the last thirty years, and that was
almost thirty years ago under Bill Clinton. So we're getting
the country's fiscal house in order. We're giving people money
back in their pocket that they earned. We're deregulating, we're
unleashing energy, we're securing the border, were rebuilding the military.
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We're doing what President Trump campaigned on, plain and simple.
So there's still some little issues being worked out with
a few guys at the edges, but in the big picture,
I think we're right on track and I think we'll
get everybody there.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
James, appreciate you being with us, and certainly a lot
to be excited about that is in this bill. For
those who are concerned about the debt, who want the
spirit and action of Doze to be enshrined in some
way in this bill, what do you say to them
and what can we point to that deals with getting
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that fiscal house in order, not just for this year
but in the longer term.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah, great question. Well, first of all, it's important to
note that this is by far the biggest savings, which
I mentioned a minute ago, but let's put some points
on it back in the back when Bill Clinton was president.
Congress has to package that saved like eight hundred billion
dollars in spending cuts. Okay, this one's looking like one
point six one point seven currently will still be you know,
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iterated on a little bit as it goes through the
Senate and everything, but more than double. Okay, Congress literally
has not done anything like that in over thirty years.
So right there, those are the biggest savings that we've
ever seen. We're doing something called recisions, which is the
stuff that doges found, this bad stuff. We go out
of Congress votes on it in what's called a recisions
package that's actually separate from this bill, but then it
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permanently pulls out that stuff out of the budget. Okay,
there's savings, and then in that and then you know
what's not counted in this bill, and it's just a
stupid quirk of how legislative scoring works is tariff revenue.
The President is bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars
of tariff revenue right now, and that money's not being spent. Okay,
that money's not being spent in the big beautiful bill
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or anything else. That's just money and the treasury that
goes straight to deficit reduction. So sometimes you know when
they call it the Congressional Budget Office, which kind of
puts out the charge they're not being honest because they
don't add in the tariff revenue and some of the
recisions and the different things that are happening, so you're
not really seeing the full picture. But the fact is
this is a huge step in the right direction for
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getting the country on a better fiscal footing, and we're
unlocking growth. You know, there's three things we have to
do really to get to a balanced budget, which the
President hopes to achieve at some point before he leaves office.
But you know, at least in the foreseeable future, we've
got to grow. Okay, We've got to unleash our economy.
We do that through tax cuts. We do that through deregulation,
we do that through getting government out of the way.
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We're doing that, right that's partly the President, partly Congress
partly doge all of those things combined. Second, we've got
to do spending reductions. I already told you the historic
nature of those spending reductions that we're doing. And then
the third thing is we've just got to deregulate and
we've got to bring more jobs in. And ultimately, you know,
in twenty seventeen, we actually collected more money in taxes
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which improved the fiscal picture as a result of the
tax cuts than we would have if we didn't have
the tax cuts. That's because more jobs were created, more
people were paying taxes. So we've got to add revenue.
The tariffs are doing that. We've got to cut taxes.
We've got to cut regulation, unlock the economy through growth.
We're doing that, and then we've got to do spending reductions.
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It's going to take all three of those things concerted
effort over a period of time. But if we just
stick through it here and we are able to do
it for four years instead of two, which means we
have to win the House majority back in the midterms,
then we'll be able to really be on a great
sustainable fiscal path. So I think we're on the path,
but you know, it's not all going to be a
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done in one bill. We're going to have to do
a couple and this is a monumental first step, way
bigger than anyone expected months ago. So we're really proud
of that, and we just got to get it done.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We're talking to James Blair, White House Deputy chief of Staff.
You mentioned the border. I also think this is important.
The tax cuts expire. So for people out there who
don't realize this, what happens if the bill doesn't pass.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, if this bill doesn't pass, First of all, economic
forecasters are said, we're going into a recession because taxes
are going to go through the roof. All of these
tax cuts we passed in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Will go away at the end of this year.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Okay, So the average family is going to pay thousands
more in taxes if the bill doesn't pass. Next year,
businesses are going to pay thousands more taxes. We're not
going to have the money to secure our border. Okay.
All of these terrible things are going to happen. It
will be the largest taxike in history if this bill doesn't.
So that's just not an option. Right. If we don't
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extend the debt ceiling, the country's going to default on
its debt, which could drive us into a global depression. Right,
this is not our fault. This is Joe Biden's fault.
We're just here cleaning up the mess. And that's what
we have to do. It's not anything anybody wants to do.
It's something that we have to do. The country can't
default on its debt or people would pay the price
in a massive way I don't think any of us
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can even fathom. And then on the border, look, we've
got to ultimately have money to pay for planes and
law enforcement to get people out of the country, and
that money is coming in this bill, and that is
such a critical piece. Everyone needs to understand that illegal
immigrants in this country level that Joe Biden brought in
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are a huge drain on our system. When you talk
about the spending, I mean hundreds of billions of dollars
being cost by illegal immigrants being in this country and
being on public programs are in place for American citizens.
When we get them out of the country, that's actually
going to lower our spending levels massively without doing a
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single thing. One of the changes in the Big Beautiful
Bill will be getting millions of illegal immigrants off of Medicaid. Okay,
they're costing Medicaid billions of dollars a year. So as
open borders that we have, we have to not only
have the border secure, but we got to get these
people out so they stop draining our public resources. All
of this stuff has to work together to get our
country on the right fiscal path forward.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Thank you so much for giving us some of the
details on the big beautiful bill. What can you give
us a census to what this announcement is supposed to
be about the Golden Dome.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I'm going to let the President break that news, but
it's very exciting stuff. Look the President and something he's
talked about for a long time. The President wants to
make make sure the homeland is secure. He wants to
make sure that other countries are deterred from ever thinking
about even remotely thinking about attacking our country. So it's
all part of his vision of having the most lethal
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fighting force in the world. And that is what really
gives us the leverage to sit at the table and
demand peace not only for ourselves and our allies, but
everywhere across the globe and the world has been better
off when America has been strong in the world, and
that is part and parcel having a strong military's part
and parcel of that effort, peace through strength.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Thank you so much for the time. Keep up the
good work, and we'll talk to you against soon.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's James Blair, White House Deputy Chief of Staff.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We head up to Capitol Hill now to be joined
by Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky. Senator, we saw the
big beautiful bill pass by one vote in the House.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Te to two fourteen.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I believe it is now onto the United States Senate.
What happens there now? What should we know about, what
the process is in the Senate? What you want to see?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
You know, there's some good and some bad to the bill.
The good is the tax cuts, you know. I supported
these in twenty seventeen. Some of them will be making
permanent and some of them will be adding too. I'm
very supportive of that. I'm supportive of spending cuts. I
think the spending cuts are whimpy, anemic, and unfortunately it
won't do much to change the course of the country
towards a more fiscal physically responsible path. The thing I
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really object to, though, and that prevents me from supporting
it at this point is that it adds either four
or five trillion, depending on which version you look at
to the debt ceiling. This will be an historic increase
in the debt ceiling. We've never added this much at
one time. And frankly, Conservatives have never voted to these things.
Typically they've been passed by Democrats and sort of the
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big government Republicans forced to get together. I always called
it a day of shame. They had to go down
on the well and admit that their big spending plans
had caused the debt to rise alarmingly. But now it's
conservatives voting for it. And my fear is is that
this will be the end of fiscal conservatism here and
in the country because there's very few. I mean, there
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were one or two in the House that oppose this
because the debt grows too much. Right now, it's just
me in the Senate. And it's not because I opposed
Donald Trump or not because I opposed that the tax
cuts or any of the spending cuts. But I just
don't think we should be the party that raises the
debt ceiling five trillion dollars. You know, come to September,
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the deficit this year is going to be about two
point two trillion. That's all Republican now, because Republicans have
voted for these spending levels, they're anticipating two point eight
to three trillion next year. That's just not conservative. And
somebody's got to be left in the country who will
speak truth to power that we'll say basically we are
supposed to be the Conservative party, Senator.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Paul, are we at a point where we just need
to be honest as a country that if there is
no political will to change alter whatever somebody wants to
say about it, social Security, Medicare, Medicaid maybe really just
medicare in that in that equation, and defense spending is
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not going to get cut, if anything, that's going to
go up. We're not going to tackle the debt, right,
I mean, is that mathematically what we are stuck with?
Is there some other way? I just worry that this
is you know, I remember when you came in on
the Tea party wave. We've been talking about this issue
for a long time. There's a bit of fatigue over guys.
The debt bomb is ticking. The debt bomb is ticking,
and everyone goes, oh, my gosh, let's do something about it.
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You go, okay, maybe we need to reform entitlement. So
they go, you're out of office.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Yeah, well, you know, I've been pretty honest with it,
you know, since I was elected. When I was running
for office the first time. But I said, some securities.
Running out of money, says Medicare, and we're moving longer.
We're gonna have to go. As we raised the age
of eligibility. And I would laughingly say, you know, people
would say, do you hate old people? And I say, no,
I aspire a vehicle person. You know, I'm on my way.
I you know, I want to collect my Social Security,
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my Medicare, and so in order to save these systems,
they have to be reformed. But when we take them
off the table and we present deficits as big as
the Biden deficits are bigger, we're just as guilty, and
we no longer can point to them as these are
the Biden deficits or the bidenflation that came from the deficits.
We'll be looking in the mirror because we'll have the
responsibility now. And I just I think there still needs
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to be a conservative resistance against big spending and against debt.
And it is important. Our interest rates about a trillion
dollars and our interest payments about a trillion dollars a year.
But interest rates are still edging up. You know, the
interest rates for thirty years at five percent, So we
are gradually turning over into a higher interest rate and
it's going to crowd out all spending. At some point
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in time. The deficit for this year will equal the budget.
Congress votes on a discretionary budget of about one point
eight to two trillion dollars. That's equal to the deficit,
which means one hundred percent of the budget we vote
on will be borrowed this year. So this should not
be about allegiance to Donald Trump. I like the president,
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I voted for him, I support him, and I'm with
him on so many things, his cabinet, Maha Movement, all
that stuff. But it doesn't mean we should quit being
physically conservative and asking the difficult questions about are we
four big debt? Are we not for it? Are we
different than the Democrats when it comes to deficit spending?
And right now we're looking kind of like the Democrats
as far as a result.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
We're talking to Senator Ram Paul, I want to build
on what Buck said, because I do think it's interesting
the Tea Party movement started. You can correct me if
I'm wrong, because I may be a little bit off,
but I think I'm right. When under Obama the national
debt approached ten trillion, Since that time, we have nearly
quadrupled the national debt because it's rapidly approaching forty trillion,
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and as you just laid out, you know we're headed
for fifty trillion, sixty trillion, and it just feels like
Buck and I talk about this sometimes on the program
because we see the responses when we bring it up.
You say, hey, this is unsustainable. People say, well, you
should just cut cost. The problem is if you look
at the basic math of what medicare cost, of what
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Social Security cost, what the debt costs. And I don't
think most people want to replace national defense, even though
now we're spending more money servicing the debt on interest
than we are in national defense. That eliminates about eighty
six percent ish of the overall budget. Even if you
cut every other part of the budget, you're still going to,
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as you just laid out, end up in a deficits situation.
To me, the only possible solution is you have to
address entitlement spending in a significant way. And you know
this better than anybody. It seems like ninety five percent
of politicians just say, hey, I got to get elected
in two years, Hey I got to get elected in
four years, six years, whatever it is, we'll just kick
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the can down the road and pretend that the looming
debt crisis doesn't actually exist.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Well, you know, one of the reasons we've put forward
the Penny Plan budget to balance the budget is to
illustrate that it can be done, and it can be
done by cutting only a few percentage points. But you
have to cut a few percentage points of everything. So
when I started proposing this ten years ago, spending wasn't
nearly as bad, but it was it was headed in
the wrong direction. Ten years ago, you could free spending,
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just don't increase spending. Spend the same amount each year
for five years, and the budget with balance. Then a
couple of years later we called it the Penny plan.
You had to cut one percent across the board of
everything on budget to balance the budget, to balance the
annual budget. Then it became the two penny Plan. Then
COVID hit and it became the sixpenny plan, And so
that's about what we are right now. You'd have to
cut a six percent across the board. But I tell people,
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look at it this way. If you still had ninety
four percent, Let's say you're big deal is your brother
and grandmother had Alzheimer's disease. You want the government to
do research. So they come into me, they all wear
purple ribbons, and I have great deal of sympathy. I
have family members who have had this, and I say
to them, well, you know, we're short of money, and
you got one hundred million last year, could you live
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with ninety four million this year? And every one of
them they're tearful thinking about their loved ones. They're talking
about something very personal to them. And they look at
me and they say, well, sure, if the country's short
of money, we could do with ninety four million. And
see that would be the same truth of everybody. Everybody
would just have to do with ninety four dollars out
of one hundred, and it would be less about eliminating
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anything to anyone, but cutting everybody the six percent and
just saying we've got to do it, you do it.
For a couple of years we balanced, the country begins
to grow, receipts grow again, and actually government's meaning could
gradually go up after a while. But I don't know.
I'm not afraid to do it, and I don't know
that I'm any less popular than I was when I ran.
You know, I got sixty two percent of the vote
last time in a state that has this significant population
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that's dependent on government, and I have great sympathy for them,
and I want them all to do better. And I say,
I don't want to cut you off Medicaid. I want
to get you private health insurance with the private job
and better payment. And so I don't know. I think
people do understand that if you're sincere. I think a
lot of the people that are Weasily and Waffley and
never really commit one way or the other and then
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go home and tell everybody there for a balanced budget.
This is a problem with Republicans. It's they're going to
lose face and they're going to lose any semblance of
sincerity because they're going to go home to the Chamber
of Commerce and to the roadary and talk about balanced
budgets next year or this summer and yet the deficit
is going to be two point two trillion, and all
of it is responsible to Republicans. Now, this is no
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longer the Biden deficit. This will be the GOP deficit,
and in the next two years are going to borrow
five trillion dollars. Somebody's got to stand up and shout no, well.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Senator Paul, at least down the line, if this doesn't stop,
you'll be able to look at all of us when
we're facing a true financial crisis. Say, I did tell
you guys this is coming, so I know that that
will be cold comfort, but you're very much on the
record with this one. I worry that American politics have
unfortunately gotten on this unstoppable amusement park ride and we're
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going to run out of track. But anyway, I also
want to ask you something well, actually, no, this is
very serious too. I was gonna say, go to a
lighter direction, but no, not really. What you're finding about,
or what we're all finding out about, really the new
version of how the Democrats viewed Biden during the election,
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this book that's come out, all of this stuff, where
do you come I mean, as a doctor as well
as somebody who's in politics at a high level. I mean,
nobody's really supposed to believe that your Democrat colleagues in
the Senate didn't know Biden wasn't all there right or what?
Speaker 8 (19:51):
No, this is really shocking. You're going to discover. Can
you believe it that Biden was actually mentally impaired and
no one knew about it until he wrote his book.
This is just shocking. I mean, what great reporting Tapper
has revealed that President Biden was missing a step or two. No,
I mean everybody saw it from miles away. The shuffling gate,
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the absent stare, the you know, looking one way, looking
for people, never really certain of where he was, and
then the rambling incoherent sentences. So you know, and if
it were just someone you knew, you'd feel sorry for them.
But if it were my loved one, I would be
mad at the family for putting something like that out.
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I think actually one of the most insulting things was
Jimmy Carter's family. As Jimmy Carter was dying and really
not conscious, they rolled him out for display of the
cameras after having just voted. And you know, it's a
sad time. Look, Jimmy Carter wasn't a great president, was
a great humanitarian, I think, and not a bad person
after the presidency. Me should have been remembered for that,
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and instead I can't shake the image of you know,
his mouth open, unconscious and his idiot family parading him
out there in front of cameras to stay just voted.
You know, that's that's kind of what they did to
Biden for four years. And it would have been much better,
and you know, he could have been remembered, you know,
I guess at least just for being a crook, you know,
as a vice president, instead of you know, being a
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bumbling president.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Do you believe that they found out on Friday that
he had stage four cancer?
Speaker 8 (21:23):
You know maybe? And I don't really fault people as
much for this. If you've looked into prostate cancer, and
a lot of men have looked into the pros and
cons of the blood testing, it really has evolved and
changed a lot. So they used to have everybody at
forty start taking a PSA, but then they started finding
elevated PSAs and people having a prostage remood, which is
not a benign receiver procedure. And it's sort of unclear
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whether they were early cancers that might have stayed and
hidden for dozens of years, and so the numbers of
surgeries of skyrocketed. Then they decided after seventy you're more
likely to die from something else. They they don't take
the PSA at all. And so it's weird because we
all have this mortality and we like, I'm seventy one,
feel pretty healthy. I other guys should get a BSA
or I'm eighty two and feel healthy. Maybe I'll get
a PSA or maybe I'll just roll the dice. I'm
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getting older, I'm and die from something. So these are
they're difficult and personal decisions. So I don't followed him
for any of that. And I think there is a
chance he did know they said he got a PSA
that was probably normal back when he was seventy one,
and it's a slow going cancer, and there's you know,
he's eighty two or eighty three, and you know, the
downside to the surgeries are a lot of different side
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effects from the surgery. Surgery is not a perfect surgery
by any means, And so I don't know. I guess
I don't follow him because I think the decision making
process is a very personal one. That a lot of
men are having to go through. And really it's not
an easy one because.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
It's not I can I ask you really quickly about
doctor pauls or Senator Paul, doctor Paul my own my
own father, by the way, I had had to go
through this. So a lot of us listening, it's very
it's very personal and exactly what you're talking about. But
why is this happening to so many? This is we're
not a point where men are being told something like
what seventy percent or eighty percent of them will have
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some form of prostate cancer. This can't be normal. Do
you have any any working theory as to what's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Actually, it actually is kind of normal. They've done a
natural study of the natural course of the disease. And
when they do autopsies of men in their seventies who
die for other reasons, you just die. And they take
one hundred people who died and they look at the prostates,
it is like seventy percent of them have cancer in
the prostate, but never had any symptoms that didn't spread
anywhere in their body, and they died from something else.
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That's why it's a difficult decision. If it were just
a breast biopsy or a lumpectomy that they did to
the prostate, you didn't have to worry about all the
other possible problems. It wouldn't be such a big deal.
But since the surgery is a pretty dramatic thing, you
obviously don't want to do the surgery on people who
don't need to have it.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
But so hundred years ago, we think as many men
were having this issue as today, I'm asking, honestly, I
have no idea.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Yeah, probably, but one hundred years ago, you know, the
average life expectancy was forty five, and so as we
live longer, there's going to be a lot more people
with it. But it's even worse than that. They apparently
have done autopsy studies of men who die in their twenties,
and I've seen at least one report saying eight percent
of men in their twenties already have a form of
prostate cancer. So that makes you wonder if it's more
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hyperpleasia or something that's not quite cancer, that maybe our
grading system needs to be better refined to figure out
when we need to do surgery and when we don't.
So it is a complicated subject. I guess they don't
follow him for it because look, he's eighty two and
he's had twelve years without having to deal with any
of the symptoms of having the surgery. And I don't know,
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I don't know what would have been better, and nobody really,
I don't know. There's a lot of is ans or
butts about how to make the decision. The guy that
invented the PSA was a test with a chairman of
the department at Stanford for many years and he finally
came to the conclusion at the end that PSA is
also related to a benign enlargement of the prostate as
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well as cancer. And it's difficult to distinguish because men's
prostate gets bigger over time, and that's why most older
men have trouble urinary symptoms. But it's not all cancer.
A lot of it's benign. And because the surgeries of all,
you got to decide I want to do, you know,
do I want to watch it? Do I want to
do surgery? And it's it's a difficult decision for a
lot of men.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Senator Paul, doctor Paul wearing both hats today for us,
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Sir, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
This is Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. We
head out to the state of Arizona. It's going to
be a major battleground as it always has been the
past several cycles, but certainly in twenty twenty six opportunity
to replace the governor. There big battle going on over
who the representative will be and wanting to go to
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d C. Friend of the show, Jay Feely, Arizona's fifth
congressional district. Jay Feely, many of you know, played in
the NFL fourteen years, has been also ten years as
an NFL analyst with CBS.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And what's this status? Pretty cool stat.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Pat Summerol is the only kicker to be in the
broadcast booth more than you doing NFL games.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I mean everybody knows Pat Summerol as the legendary co
host of John Madden back in the day, but also
a lot of people don't realize this Pat Summerl father
of Susie Wiles, who is now the chief of staff
in Trump administration two point zero.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Tying it all together there for.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You, Jay, Yeah, just an honor to be even mentioned
with Pat Summerl because he is such a legend and
you know, very cool to see what Susie is doing
with President Trump and how respected she is. You know,
We've gotten to know each other a couple times with
Saint Jude because I've done a lot with Saint Jude.
I had a niece of mine who has gone twice
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to Saint Jude Hospital to have surgery on her cancer,
and they were amazing to her, and so I've supported them,
and Susie has as well. So they give way to
the Pat Summerle Award every year. But excited for my
opportunity to run for office, I just felt like this
was the time I had said no for a few years,
and to be honest and candidate. I love my job.
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I love doing NFL games and calling games and being
in the booth and getting to do all the production
meetings and sit down with coaches and players and work
for five months and then having seven months off. But
really felt called my wife and I did that this
was the time for us to serve our country.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Jay, thank you for being on the show, and appreciate
that you've decided that you are or you haven't called.
Perhaps a better way of putting it to put your
hat in the ring, to be a member of.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Our illustrious well Congress.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Some days it's illustrious, some days we feel like it's
letting us down a little bit.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
But we know you'll do a great job if you
get there, and it's all looking good for you in
that respect.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
So far, how do you feel, where do you fit
in or what's your I'll put it this way, what
is your relationship to Maga Jay and the move that
has become really the leadership the tip of the spear
for the Republican Party.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Well, I've supported President Trump for a long time, ever
since he first ran for office. We got to know
each other when I was with the Jets, playing for
the Jets and he wasn't running for officehet himself. We
were just doing some charity events together with his foundation,
and you know, I really was impressed with just who
he was and his willingness to serve. He didn't have
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to run for office. He you know, he's wealthy and
rich and famous and doing his TV shows, and he
decided that he wanted to try to make this country better,
similar to what I feel, and I think, you know,
the things that we believe in economically free markets and
less taxes and equomic tunity and limited government, the need
to balance the budget. You know, those are all things
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that I want to try to do and be an
advocate for in Congress.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Uh Jay, I'm curious in your experience Trump one point zero,
you said you were a Trump guy. It was the
case that if you were in sports media, people wanted
you to keep your head down and not acknowledge that
you were a Trump guy. Trump two point zero. Now
Politico has got a huge story about it. Today, the
sports world loves Trump. What do you think has changed.
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Do you think it's just a function of people are
being more honest now? Do you think it was the
Biden term was so bad? You've been a Trump guy
for a while. What's different as it pertains to the culture,
whether it's Christian, pulistic, John Jones, the cheering at the
Super Bowl? What is going on that sports fans and
Trump are now in love with each other.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think you kind of hit the nail on the
heads there. I think part of it was he was
labeled a racist when he was running, you know, in
twenty sixteen. But I think when you look at his
administration and Biden's administration and the differences and what happened
to our country. I think people got frustrated with COVID
when we lost our liberties. I think they saw the
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hypocrisy of the Democratic Party when you had the BLM
riots and the response to destruction of people's property and
their businesses and murders. I think when you look at
the DEI policies and the transgender policies and guys playing
in girls' sports, I think people have rejected that.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And let me let me cut you off there for
a sec because I think as the locker room guy
had this. We had this conversation with the HUD secretary
last week, and I think it's important. What percentage of
NFL players, current and past do you think believe that
men should be able to compete against women?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I would say it's under five percent. I think it's
a very very low number. I think anybody who has
a sister who watched their sisters play sports, or myself
with my daughters, the reason I got into coaching, like,
there was not a girls soccer team at the high
school that my daughter was going to go to, and
I said, well, that's ridiculous. We have to have a
girl soccer team. And they were like, well, we need
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a co and I said, well, I'll coach the team,
you know, and to provide that opportunity. I love what
sports does to develop discipline and toughness and camaraderie and
fighting for something that's greater than yourself. Those are all
lessons that you learn in sports to carry on the
rest of your lives. And I never want to see
a girl not have an opportunity because some guy decides
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I want to take my physical biological advantages and go
play a sport that I know that physically i'm better.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
At, or you know.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'll give you another example, like we would play because
I wanted our girls to win a state championship. So
we're going to practice against our guys team that was
really good. But I would sit down beforehand with the
guys coach and all the players on the guys team
and be like, listen, you can't go in for tackles
full speed against our girls. I don't want somebody getting
hurt in this practice. I want your speed and your
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power to stretch them and to push them, but I
don't want them getting injured. And that's the kind of
situation they create when you have girls competing against our
guys competing against girls in a physical sport.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Yeah, No, absolutely, Jay, I'm wondering.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I've never actually don't think I've ever gotten to talk
to an NFL kicker before, certainly not one of your stature.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
I'm sort of and I'm a very casual observer of
professional sports.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I'm not at Clay level where it is a life's passion,
not by a logshot, But I do wonder, and knowing
what I know about this, and having actually beaten most
of the Amherst College men's football team at Madden because
I was good at video games and we would have
tournaments when I was in college, and you were a
fantastic kicker.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's what I remember.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
I probably want some money off some of my friends.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Thanks to your leg.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Is being a kicker in the NFL the greatest job
in the NFL or the most stressful job in the NFL.
Because on the one hand, I think you get to
make great money, right, and this stuff is all pretty
well known. You make great money as a professional athlete,
and you get to put points on the board and
the team has to love you. But also, like if
you hit the upright and you don't get it, it
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might be a lonely ride back on the bus, like,
how should one think about that?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Well, I would say punter is a better job than kicker,
because if you have four out of five good punts
at a game, you're going to have a good game.
It's okay if you didn't have one great punt as
long as they don't return it for a touchdown. Whereas kicking,
you know, you could only miss three or four kicks
in a year to have a good year where they're
not going to look at replacing you, and those kicks
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be game winning kicks, Like you can't come in and
miss a couple of game winners and a team and
a fan base not think about replacing you. And that's
kind of the reality of kicking. You have to be
able to handle pressure, and you have to be able
to handle failure, you know.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
And that was.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Probably my greatest attribute. I wasn't I couldn't kick it
the farthest, I wasn't the best, I wasn't the most accurate,
but I could handle failure and it didn't defeat me.
It didn't break me going forward, you know. And when
I got to the point in my career where I
was like, Okay, I failed as bad as I could
fail Saturday Live did a spoof about me called the
Jake Feeley Story The Long Ride Home and didn't break me.
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That allowed me to be a lot better because I
started losing some of that fear of failure and just
having fun out there. And then the next nine years
after that skit, I didn't miss another game winner.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
What is it like as a kicker to be mocked
on Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I I had no idea about that either.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
So I missed three game winners with Giants out in
Seattle late in the season, one at the end of
the game too and overtime, obviously the worst game of
my career. And you know, the next next week, I'm
getting ready to We're gonna play Philadelphia Saturday night. I'm
trying to go to sleep. I'm trying not to lose
my job. The next day and I get a bunch
of text message and they're like, dude, they're killing you
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on Saturday Live right now. And of course I didn't
look at it or watch it. I go play the
game the next day at Philadelphia, we go to overtime again.
I got a game winner again, and they called time
out to ice me and they play a montage or
by misses on the jumbo tron in the stadium from
the from the game where I missed all the game winners,
and you're sitting there, And that's where mental discipline comes in,
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because you can't let your mind wander. You know, if
you miss this kick, you're probably gonna lose your job,
your kids are going to have to change schools, You're
gonna have to sell the house and move. You don't
know if you'll ever have a job in the NFL again.
But you can't let your mind think about those things.
You have to discipline it to not allow it to wander,
to either think about the positive implications or the negative implications.
And I think that's the challenge with kicking. It's why
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you see guys that are really good one year and
then have a really bad miss and then can never
do it again.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Did you make the kick?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Of course I played for nine more years if I missed, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You made you made that kick?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Now is that still allowed to This is a great quest.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I didn't know this backstory.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
This is Is it still Is it allowed in the
NFL to show negative highlights still on the jumbo dron?
Like I don't remember seeing a montage of kicker misses
obvious season ticket holder.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Is that still allowed today or has that been this?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
So the Meryra family was not happy after that game.
I know they went to the NFL and complained about
it because you kind of you take that in your
e strap late say, think of all the things you
could put up on a drummer tron during a game.
Oh yeah, totally the opposing players, you know mine, you
know you can put.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
On I would I would say that falls into a
category of actually bad sportsmanship. I don't even I don't
think that's all in good fun. I think it's bad sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
That's the city of brotherly love.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So what do you expect, oh is Philly?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Okay, well you know they do have that courthouse under
the stadium, right, So I bet.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I bet that made the winning kick after they did
that unbelievably joyful for you in that celebration.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Would you always know, Jay, when you kicked? Would you
always know like the second you made contact? You know,
obviously there's like a couple of seconds where it's where
it's airborne, right, Would you know every time you hit it,
I got it or I didn't pretty much.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
As soon as you make contact, you know, if that
ball is starting where you want there were you know,
there's a couple of times that's win. Like the first
kick in that game I was talking about where I
missed a game winner. I hit it exactly where I
wanted in Seattle. I thought the wind was going to
bring it back right, and it shifted and it brought
it left, and you missed by you know a little bit.
But for the most part, you know, when you hit,
it's like a golfer. You kind of know the ball
comes off, you know, Okay, I hit that one.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Well, what's the best kick you ever made?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
The most important kick I ever made was probably in
high school in the state semifinals. I had a game
winner at the end of the game, and I make
that kick and we go onto the state finals. And
for me, that was when I first started thinking about
doing kicking as a career. I was a soccer player.
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I kind of played everything growing up until that moment.
You know, I never really looked at kicking as something
I wanted to do, you know, And then that kick
led to me going to college at Michigan and then
getting into the NFL and then broadcasting for ten years
and now running for office. I kind of feel like
that kick started the journey for me over the next
quarter of a century.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
All right, how do people if they want us to
port you in Arizona's fifth what should they know and
what should they do?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Well? They should know the first of all, I'm a
fighter and I'm not afraid to stand up for my beliefs.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Working in broadcast media for a major network like CBS
like people didn't like that you would talk about your
support of Republicans, conservatives, and especially Trump, and I was
never afraid to do that. I would post pictures when
he and I would get together and play golf, and
I would get called into the principal's office all the
time for doing that. And my perspective always was, listen,
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You're not going to do that if I'm posting something
that's liberal, So don't do it if I post something
that's conservative. But I think people should know that I'm
going to stand up and be an advocate for conservative
principles and the America First policy. You can go to
jfeeyfocongress dot com sign my petition. If you live in
the district or you can support us financially. But more
than anything, I just want to be somebody who is
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willing to talk about their beliefs and do it in
a compassionate way and be able to advocate for Republicans
and conservative causes. And you know, we're going to have
a fight in twenty twenty six to keep the House
in the Senate, and I want to be part of
that fight.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Jay.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
One thing people may not know about you, Tom Brady
teammate at the University of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Quickly on your way out. What's Brady like?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
He is the most compassionate dude, you know. I mean
I never knew he was going to be as good
as he was. You know, we were at college for
four years together and roomed together and some of the
summers and worked at the University of Michigan golf course together,
and I just never knew he would be as good
as he was. But I knew he was a great leader.
I think that's the thing that stands out the most
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is his willingness to be humble and to take all
the stuff that Belichick gave to him and to use
him as an example for everyone else. That's what led
to the greatness because he had those leadership qualities to
bring everybody together and then the unsatiable desire to be
the best ever.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Awesome stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Well, we hope the voters of Arizona's fifth Congressional District
are listening. And I love that you were willing to
take the slings and arrows for being a Trump guy
when it wasn't popular to be a Trump guy.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Thanks for having me on. Thanks for giving guys everything
you guys do. Love listening.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Appreciate that that's Jay Feely.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Awesome dude. Encourage you guys if you're in Arizona again
twenty twenty six. Once again, Arizona is going to be
a focal point, one of the big battlegrounds. Trump won
by a lot, but they're going to have the governor's race,
the congressional race is a lot going on there.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Thanks for listening to Team forty seven with Clay and
Buck
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
We are joined now by James Blair, White House Deputy
Chief of Staff, aka the Oracle.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Joining us now.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
All right, So that's a pretty cool nickname, and I
imagine that doesn't sneak to be the White House Cheep
of Staff deputy that is known as the Oracle. So
let me ask you for your predictions, Oracle, on how
the Big Beautiful Bill is going to go and what
should this audience know about it from your perspective.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Gonna be with you, guys. I think that the Big
Beautiful Bill will get out of the House this week.
I think that obviously, if it gets out of the
House this week, then it will go over to the Senate.
They'll work on it for a few weeks, and the
goal is to get it on the President's tax by
July fourth, which I think will happen. Look, we've got
to get this done. This bill has so much to love, guys.
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First of all, let's talk about the border first and foremost,
which nobody's talking about anymore because the President has driven
illegal border crossings to zero since he came into office.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
But this bill.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Funds border Enforcement, adds ten thousand new ICE officers, gives
them pay raises, gives us everything we need logistically to
not only keep the border secure for the president's entire
term in office so we don't have to come back
and do this again, but also to deport people and
get millions of illegal immigrants out of this country, which
is something that a majority of the American people support. Secondarily,
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it gives us the funding we need for our military.
You know that the President is involved in complex negotiations
across the globe to bring peace that's backed up through strength.
And it gives us the funding to modernize our military
and make sure it's the most lethal fighting force in
the world for the foreseeable future. But then the big
thing that it does it everyone's talking about is the
tax cuts. This renews the President's historic tax cut from
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twenty seventeen that was the biggest in history, and then
adds more taxes on top everything he campaigned on. No
tax on tips, no tax on social security, no tax
on overtime pay. It will be the single largest tax
cut for middle and working class Americans in the history
of the country, and it will do that while still
generating more than a trillion dollars right now, one point
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seven trillion dollars in savings for the American taxpayer, which
is twice as much savings that has ever been delivered
by Congress in the last thirty years, and that was
almost thirty years ago under Bill Clinton. So we're getting
the country's fiscal house in order. We're giving people money
back in their pocket that they earned. We're deregulating, we're
unleashing energy, we're securing the border, were rebuilding the military.
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We're doing what President Trump campaigned on, plain and simple.
So there's still some little issues being worked out with
a few guys at the edges, but in the big picture,
I think we're right on track and I think we'll
get everybody there.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
James, appreciate you being with us, and certainly a lot
to be excited about that is in this bill. For
those who are concerned about the debt, who want the
spirit and action of Doze to be enshrined in some
way in this bill, what do you say to them
and what can we point to that deals with getting
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that fiscal house in order, not just for this year
but in the longer term.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah, great question. Well, first of all, it's important to
note that this is by far the biggest savings, which
I mentioned a minute ago, but let's put some points
on it back in the back when Bill Clinton was president.
Congress has to package that saved like eight hundred billion
dollars in spending cuts. Okay, this one's looking like one
point six one point seven currently will still be you know,
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iterated on a little bit as it goes through the
Senate and everything, but more than double. Okay, Congress literally
has not done anything like that in over thirty years.
So right there, those are the biggest savings that we've
ever seen. We're doing something called recisions, which is the
stuff that doges found, this bad stuff. We go out
of Congress votes on it in what's called a recisions
package that's actually separate from this bill, but then it
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permanently pulls out that stuff out of the budget. Okay,
there's savings, and then in that and then you know
what's not counted in this bill, and it's just a
stupid quirk of how legislative scoring works is tariff revenue.
The President is bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars
of tariff revenue right now, and that money's not being spent. Okay,
that money's not being spent in the big beautiful bill
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or anything else. That's just money and the treasury that
goes straight to deficit reduction. So sometimes you know when
they call it the Congressional Budget Office, which kind of
puts out the charge they're not being honest because they
don't add in the tariff revenue and some of the
recisions and the different things that are happening, so you're
not really seeing the full picture. But the fact is
this is a huge step in the right direction for
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getting the country on a better fiscal footing, and we're
unlocking growth. You know, there's three things we have to
do really to get to a balanced budget, which the
President hopes to achieve at some point before he leaves office.
But you know, at least in the foreseeable future, we've
got to grow. Okay, We've got to unleash our economy.
We do that through tax cuts. We do that through deregulation,
we do that through getting government out of the way.
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We're doing that, right that's partly the President, partly Congress
partly doge all of those things combined. Second, we've got
to do spending reductions. I already told you the historic
nature of those spending reductions that we're doing. And then
the third thing is we've just got to deregulate and
we've got to bring more jobs in. And ultimately, you know,
in twenty seventeen, we actually collected more money in taxes
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which improved the fiscal picture as a result of the
tax cuts than we would have if we didn't have
the tax cuts. That's because more jobs were created, more
people were paying taxes. So we've got to add revenue.
The tariffs are doing that. We've got to cut taxes.
We've got to cut regulation, unlock the economy through growth.
We're doing that, and then we've got to do spending reductions.
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It's going to take all three of those things concerted
effort over a period of time. But if we just
stick through it here and we are able to do
it for four years instead of two, which means we
have to win the House majority back in the midterms,
then we'll be able to really be on a great
sustainable fiscal path. So I think we're on the path,
but you know, it's not all going to be a
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done in one bill. We're going to have to do
a couple and this is a monumental first step, way
bigger than anyone expected months ago. So we're really proud
of that, and we just got to get it done.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We're talking to James Blair, White House Deputy chief of Staff.
You mentioned the border. I also think this is important.
The tax cuts expire. So for people out there who
don't realize this, what happens if the bill doesn't pass.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, if this bill doesn't pass, First of all, economic
forecasters are said, we're going into a recession because taxes
are going to go through the roof. All of these
tax cuts we passed in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Will go away at the end of this year.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Okay, So the average family is going to pay thousands
more in taxes if the bill doesn't pass. Next year,
businesses are going to pay thousands more taxes. We're not
going to have the money to secure our border. Okay.
All of these terrible things are going to happen. It
will be the largest taxike in history if this bill doesn't.
So that's just not an option. Right. If we don't
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extend the debt ceiling, the country's going to default on
its debt, which could drive us into a global depression. Right,
this is not our fault. This is Joe Biden's fault.
We're just here cleaning up the mess. And that's what
we have to do. It's not anything anybody wants to do.
It's something that we have to do. The country can't
default on its debt or people would pay the price
in a massive way I don't think any of us
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can even fathom. And then on the border, look, we've
got to ultimately have money to pay for planes and
law enforcement to get people out of the country, and
that money is coming in this bill, and that is
such a critical piece. Everyone needs to understand that illegal
immigrants in this country level that Joe Biden brought in
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are a huge drain on our system. When you talk
about the spending, I mean hundreds of billions of dollars
being cost by illegal immigrants being in this country and
being on public programs are in place for American citizens.
When we get them out of the country, that's actually
going to lower our spending levels massively without doing a
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single thing. One of the changes in the Big Beautiful
Bill will be getting millions of illegal immigrants off of Medicaid. Okay,
they're costing Medicaid billions of dollars a year. So as
open borders that we have, we have to not only
have the border secure, but we got to get these
people out so they stop draining our public resources. All
of this stuff has to work together to get our
country on the right fiscal path forward.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Thank you so much for giving us some of the
details on the big beautiful bill. What can you give
us a census to what this announcement is supposed to
be about the Golden Dome.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I'm going to let the President break that news, but
it's very exciting stuff. Look the President and something he's
talked about for a long time. The President wants to
make make sure the homeland is secure. He wants to
make sure that other countries are deterred from ever thinking
about even remotely thinking about attacking our country. So it's
all part of his vision of having the most lethal
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fighting force in the world. And that is what really
gives us the leverage to sit at the table and
demand peace not only for ourselves and our allies, but
everywhere across the globe and the world has been better
off when America has been strong in the world, and
that is part and parcel having a strong military's part
and parcel of that effort, peace through strength.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Thank you so much for the time. Keep up the
good work, and we'll talk to you against soon.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's James Blair, White House Deputy Chief of Staff.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
We head up to Capitol Hill now to be joined
by Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky. Senator, we saw the
big beautiful bill pass by one vote in the House.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Te to two fourteen.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I believe it is now onto the United States Senate.
What happens there now? What should we know about, what
the process is in the Senate? What you want to see?
Speaker 8 (10:13):
You know, there's some good and some bad to the bill.
The good is the tax cuts, you know. I supported
these in twenty seventeen. Some of them will be making
permanent and some of them will be adding too. I'm
very supportive of that. I'm supportive of spending cuts. I
think the spending cuts are whimpy, anemic, and unfortunately it
won't do much to change the course of the country
towards a more fiscal physically responsible path. The thing I
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really object to, though, and that prevents me from supporting
it at this point is that it adds either four
or five trillion, depending on which version you look at
to the debt ceiling. This will be an historic increase
in the debt ceiling. We've never added this much at
one time. And frankly, Conservatives have never voted to these things.
Typically they've been passed by Democrats and sort of the
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big government Republicans forced to get together. I always called
it a day of shame. They had to go down
on the well and admit that their big spending plans
had caused the debt to rise alarmingly. But now it's
conservatives voting for it. And my fear is is that
this will be the end of fiscal conservatism here and
in the country because there's very few. I mean, there
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were one or two in the House that oppose this
because the debt grows too much. Right now, it's just
me in the Senate. And it's not because I opposed
Donald Trump or not because I opposed that the tax
cuts or any of the spending cuts. But I just
don't think we should be the party that raises the
debt ceiling five trillion dollars. You know, come to September,
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the deficit this year is going to be about two
point two trillion. That's all Republican now, because Republicans have
voted for these spending levels, they're anticipating two point eight
to three trillion next year. That's just not conservative. And
somebody's got to be left in the country who will
speak truth to power that we'll say basically we are
supposed to be the Conservative party, Senator.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Paul, are we at a point where we just need
to be honest as a country that if there is
no political will to change alter whatever somebody wants to
say about it, social Security, Medicare, Medicaid maybe really just
medicare in that in that equation, and defense spending is
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not going to get cut, if anything, that's going to
go up. We're not going to tackle the debt, right,
I mean, is that mathematically what we are stuck with?
Is there some other way? I just worry that this
is you know, I remember when you came in on
the Tea party wave. We've been talking about this issue
for a long time. There's a bit of fatigue over guys.
The debt bomb is ticking. The debt bomb is ticking,
and everyone goes, oh, my gosh, let's do something about it.
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You go, okay, maybe we need to reform entitlement. So
they go, you're out of office.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Yeah, well, you know, I've been pretty honest with it,
you know, since I was elected. When I was running
for office the first time. But I said, some securities.
Running out of money, says Medicare, and we're moving longer.
We're gonna have to go. As we raised the age
of eligibility. And I would laughingly say, you know, people
would say, do you hate old people? And I say, no,
I aspire a vehicle person. You know, I'm on my way.
I you know, I want to collect my Social Security,
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my Medicare, and so in order to save these systems,
they have to be reformed. But when we take them
off the table and we present deficits as big as
the Biden deficits are bigger, we're just as guilty, and
we no longer can point to them as these are
the Biden deficits or the bidenflation that came from the deficits.
We'll be looking in the mirror because we'll have the
responsibility now. And I just I think there still needs
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to be a conservative resistance against big spending and against debt.
And it is important. Our interest rates about a trillion
dollars and our interest payments about a trillion dollars a year.
But interest rates are still edging up. You know, the
interest rates for thirty years at five percent, So we
are gradually turning over into a higher interest rate and
it's going to crowd out all spending. At some point
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in time. The deficit for this year will equal the budget.
Congress votes on a discretionary budget of about one point
eight to two trillion dollars. That's equal to the deficit,
which means one hundred percent of the budget we vote
on will be borrowed this year. So this should not
be about allegiance to Donald Trump. I like the president,
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I voted for him, I support him, and I'm with
him on so many things, his cabinet, Maha Movement, all
that stuff. But it doesn't mean we should quit being
physically conservative and asking the difficult questions about are we
four big debt? Are we not for it? Are we
different than the Democrats when it comes to deficit spending?
And right now we're looking kind of like the Democrats
as far as a result.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
We're talking to Senator Ram Paul, I want to build
on what Buck said, because I do think it's interesting
the Tea Party movement started. You can correct me if
I'm wrong, because I may be a little bit off,
but I think I'm right. When under Obama the national
debt approached ten trillion, Since that time, we have nearly
quadrupled the national debt because it's rapidly approaching forty trillion,
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and as you just laid out, you know we're headed
for fifty trillion, sixty trillion, and it just feels like
Buck and I talk about this sometimes on the program
because we see the responses when we bring it up.
You say, hey, this is unsustainable. People say, well, you
should just cut cost. The problem is if you look
at the basic math of what medicare cost, of what
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Social Security cost, what the debt costs. And I don't
think most people want to replace national defense, even though
now we're spending more money servicing the debt on interest
than we are in national defense. That eliminates about eighty
six percent ish of the overall budget. Even if you
cut every other part of the budget, you're still going to,
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as you just laid out, end up in a deficits situation.
To me, the only possible solution is you have to
address entitlement spending in a significant way. And you know
this better than anybody. It seems like ninety five percent
of politicians just say, hey, I got to get elected
in two years, Hey I got to get elected in
four years, six years, whatever it is, we'll just kick
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the can down the road and pretend that the looming
debt crisis doesn't actually exist.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Well, you know, one of the reasons we've put forward
the Penny Plan budget to balance the budget is to
illustrate that it can be done, and it can be
done by cutting only a few percentage points. But you
have to cut a few percentage points of everything. So
when I started proposing this ten years ago, spending wasn't
nearly as bad, but it was it was headed in
the wrong direction. Ten years ago, you could free spending,
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just don't increase spending. Spend the same amount each year
for five years, and the budget with balance. Then a
couple of years later we called it the Penny plan.
You had to cut one percent across the board of
everything on budget to balance the budget, to balance the
annual budget. Then it became the two penny Plan. Then
COVID hit and it became the sixpenny plan, And so
that's about what we are right now. You'd have to
cut a six percent across the board. But I tell people,
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look at it this way. If you still had ninety
four percent, Let's say you're big deal is your brother
and grandmother had Alzheimer's disease. You want the government to
do research. So they come into me, they all wear
purple ribbons, and I have great deal of sympathy. I
have family members who have had this, and I say
to them, well, you know, we're short of money, and
you got one hundred million last year, could you live
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with ninety four million this year? And every one of
them they're tearful thinking about their loved ones. They're talking
about something very personal to them. And they look at
me and they say, well, sure, if the country's short
of money, we could do with ninety four million. And
see that would be the same truth of everybody. Everybody
would just have to do with ninety four dollars out
of one hundred, and it would be less about eliminating
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anything to anyone, but cutting everybody the six percent and
just saying we've got to do it, you do it.
For a couple of years we balanced, the country begins
to grow, receipts grow again, and actually government's meaning could
gradually go up after a while. But I don't know.
I'm not afraid to do it, and I don't know
that I'm any less popular than I was when I ran.
You know, I got sixty two percent of the vote
last time in a state that has this significant population
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that's dependent on government, and I have great sympathy for them,
and I want them all to do better. And I say,
I don't want to cut you off Medicaid. I want
to get you private health insurance with the private job
and better payment. And so I don't know. I think
people do understand that if you're sincere. I think a
lot of the people that are Weasily and Waffley and
never really commit one way or the other and then
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go home and tell everybody there for a balanced budget.
This is a problem with Republicans. It's they're going to
lose face and they're going to lose any semblance of
sincerity because they're going to go home to the Chamber
of Commerce and to the roadary and talk about balanced
budgets next year or this summer and yet the deficit
is going to be two point two trillion, and all
of it is responsible to Republicans. Now, this is no
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longer the Biden deficit. This will be the GOP deficit,
and in the next two years are going to borrow
five trillion dollars. Somebody's got to stand up and shout no, well.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Senator Paul, at least down the line, if this doesn't stop,
you'll be able to look at all of us when
we're facing a true financial crisis. Say, I did tell
you guys this is coming, so I know that that
will be cold comfort, but you're very much on the
record with this one. I worry that American politics have
unfortunately gotten on this unstoppable amusement park ride and we're
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going to run out of track. But anyway, I also
want to ask you something well, actually, no, this is
very serious too. I was gonna say, go to a
lighter direction, but no, not really. What you're finding about,
or what we're all finding out about, really the new
version of how the Democrats viewed Biden during the election,
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this book that's come out, all of this stuff, where
do you come I mean, as a doctor as well
as somebody who's in politics at a high level. I mean,
nobody's really supposed to believe that your Democrat colleagues in
the Senate didn't know Biden wasn't all there right or what?
Speaker 8 (19:51):
No, this is really shocking. You're going to discover. Can
you believe it that Biden was actually mentally impaired and
no one knew about it until he wrote his book.
This is just shocking. I mean, what great reporting Tapper
has revealed that President Biden was missing a step or two. No,
I mean everybody saw it from miles away. The shuffling gate,
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the absent stare, the you know, looking one way, looking
for people, never really certain of where he was, and
then the rambling incoherent sentences. So you know, and if
it were just someone you knew, you'd feel sorry for them.
But if it were my loved one, I would be
mad at the family for putting something like that out.
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I think actually one of the most insulting things was
Jimmy Carter's family. As Jimmy Carter was dying and really
not conscious, they rolled him out for display of the
cameras after having just voted. And you know, it's a
sad time. Look, Jimmy Carter wasn't a great president, was
a great humanitarian, I think, and not a bad person
after the presidency. Me should have been remembered for that,
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and instead I can't shake the image of you know,
his mouth open, unconscious and his idiot family parading him
out there in front of cameras to stay just voted.
You know, that's that's kind of what they did to
Biden for four years. And it would have been much better,
and you know, he could have been remembered, you know,
I guess at least just for being a crook, you know,
as a vice president, instead of you know, being a
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bumbling president.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Do you believe that they found out on Friday that
he had stage four cancer?
Speaker 8 (21:23):
You know maybe? And I don't really fault people as
much for this. If you've looked into prostate cancer, and
a lot of men have looked into the pros and
cons of the blood testing, it really has evolved and
changed a lot. So they used to have everybody at
forty start taking a PSA, but then they started finding
elevated PSAs and people having a prostage remood, which is
not a benign receiver procedure. And it's sort of unclear
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whether they were early cancers that might have stayed and
hidden for dozens of years, and so the numbers of
surgeries of skyrocketed. Then they decided after seventy you're more
likely to die from something else. They they don't take
the PSA at all. And so it's weird because we
all have this mortality and we like, I'm seventy one,
feel pretty healthy. I other guys should get a BSA
or I'm eighty two and feel healthy. Maybe I'll get
a PSA or maybe I'll just roll the dice. I'm
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getting older, I'm and die from something. So these are
they're difficult and personal decisions. So I don't followed him
for any of that. And I think there is a
chance he did know they said he got a PSA
that was probably normal back when he was seventy one,
and it's a slow going cancer, and there's you know,
he's eighty two or eighty three, and you know, the
downside to the surgeries are a lot of different side
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effects from the surgery. Surgery is not a perfect surgery
by any means, And so I don't know. I guess
I don't follow him because I think the decision making
process is a very personal one. That a lot of
men are having to go through. And really it's not
an easy one because.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
It's not I can I ask you really quickly about
doctor pauls or Senator Paul, doctor Paul my own my
own father, by the way, I had had to go
through this. So a lot of us listening, it's very
it's very personal and exactly what you're talking about. But
why is this happening to so many? This is we're
not a point where men are being told something like
what seventy percent or eighty percent of them will have
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some form of prostate cancer. This can't be normal. Do
you have any any working theory as to what's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Actually, it actually is kind of normal. They've done a
natural study of the natural course of the disease. And
when they do autopsies of men in their seventies who
die for other reasons, you just die. And they take
one hundred people who died and they look at the prostates,
it is like seventy percent of them have cancer in
the prostate, but never had any symptoms that didn't spread
anywhere in their body, and they died from something else.
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That's why it's a difficult decision. If it were just
a breast biopsy or a lumpectomy that they did to
the prostate, you didn't have to worry about all the
other possible problems. It wouldn't be such a big deal.
But since the surgery is a pretty dramatic thing, you
obviously don't want to do the surgery on people who
don't need to have it.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
But so hundred years ago, we think as many men
were having this issue as today, I'm asking, honestly, I
have no idea.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Yeah, probably, but one hundred years ago, you know, the
average life expectancy was forty five, and so as we
live longer, there's going to be a lot more people
with it. But it's even worse than that. They apparently
have done autopsy studies of men who die in their twenties,
and I've seen at least one report saying eight percent
of men in their twenties already have a form of
prostate cancer. So that makes you wonder if it's more
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hyperpleasia or something that's not quite cancer, that maybe our
grading system needs to be better refined to figure out
when we need to do surgery and when we don't.
So it is a complicated subject. I guess they don't
follow him for it because look, he's eighty two and
he's had twelve years without having to deal with any
of the symptoms of having the surgery. And I don't know,
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I don't know what would have been better, and nobody really,
I don't know. There's a lot of is ans or
butts about how to make the decision. The guy that
invented the PSA was a test with a chairman of
the department at Stanford for many years and he finally
came to the conclusion at the end that PSA is
also related to a benign enlargement of the prostate as
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well as cancer. And it's difficult to distinguish because men's
prostate gets bigger over time, and that's why most older
men have trouble urinary symptoms. But it's not all cancer.
A lot of it's benign. And because the surgeries of all,
you got to decide I want to do, you know,
do I want to watch it? Do I want to
do surgery? And it's it's a difficult decision for a
lot of men.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Senator Paul, doctor Paul wearing both hats today for us,
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Sir, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
This is Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. We
head out to the state of Arizona. It's going to
be a major battleground as it always has been the
past several cycles, but certainly in twenty twenty six opportunity
to replace the governor. There big battle going on over
who the representative will be and wanting to go to
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d C. Friend of the show, Jay Feely, Arizona's fifth
congressional district. Jay Feely, many of you know, played in
the NFL fourteen years, has been also ten years as
an NFL analyst with CBS.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And what's this status? Pretty cool stat.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Pat Summerol is the only kicker to be in the
broadcast booth more than you doing NFL games.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I mean everybody knows Pat Summerol as the legendary co
host of John Madden back in the day, but also
a lot of people don't realize this Pat Summerl father
of Susie Wiles, who is now the chief of staff
in Trump administration two point zero.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Tying it all together there for.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You, Jay, Yeah, just an honor to be even mentioned
with Pat Summerl because he is such a legend and
you know, very cool to see what Susie is doing
with President Trump and how respected she is. You know,
We've gotten to know each other a couple times with
Saint Jude because I've done a lot with Saint Jude.
I had a niece of mine who has gone twice
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to Saint Jude Hospital to have surgery on her cancer,
and they were amazing to her, and so I've supported them,
and Susie has as well. So they give way to
the Pat Summerle Award every year. But excited for my
opportunity to run for office, I just felt like this
was the time I had said no for a few years,
and to be honest and candidate. I love my job.
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I love doing NFL games and calling games and being
in the booth and getting to do all the production
meetings and sit down with coaches and players and work
for five months and then having seven months off. But
really felt called my wife and I did that this
was the time for us to serve our country.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Jay, thank you for being on the show, and appreciate
that you've decided that you are or you haven't called.
Perhaps a better way of putting it to put your
hat in the ring, to be a member of.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
Our illustrious well Congress.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Some days it's illustrious, some days we feel like it's
letting us down a little bit.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
But we know you'll do a great job if you
get there, and it's all looking good for you in
that respect.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
So far, how do you feel, where do you fit
in or what's your I'll put it this way, what
is your relationship to Maga Jay and the move that
has become really the leadership the tip of the spear
for the Republican Party.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Well, I've supported President Trump for a long time, ever
since he first ran for office. We got to know
each other when I was with the Jets, playing for
the Jets and he wasn't running for officehet himself. We
were just doing some charity events together with his foundation,
and you know, I really was impressed with just who
he was and his willingness to serve. He didn't have
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to run for office. He you know, he's wealthy and
rich and famous and doing his TV shows, and he
decided that he wanted to try to make this country better,
similar to what I feel, and I think, you know,
the things that we believe in economically free markets and
less taxes and equomic tunity and limited government, the need
to balance the budget. You know, those are all things
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that I want to try to do and be an
advocate for in Congress.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Uh Jay, I'm curious in your experience Trump one point zero,
you said you were a Trump guy. It was the
case that if you were in sports media, people wanted
you to keep your head down and not acknowledge that
you were a Trump guy. Trump two point zero. Now
Politico has got a huge story about it. Today, the
sports world loves Trump. What do you think has changed.
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Do you think it's just a function of people are
being more honest now? Do you think it was the
Biden term was so bad? You've been a Trump guy
for a while. What's different as it pertains to the culture,
whether it's Christian, pulistic, John Jones, the cheering at the
Super Bowl? What is going on that sports fans and
Trump are now in love with each other.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I think you kind of hit the nail on the
heads there. I think part of it was he was
labeled a racist when he was running, you know, in
twenty sixteen. But I think when you look at his
administration and Biden's administration and the differences and what happened
to our country. I think people got frustrated with COVID
when we lost our liberties. I think they saw the
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hypocrisy of the Democratic Party when you had the BLM
riots and the response to destruction of people's property and
their businesses and murders. I think when you look at
the DEI policies and the transgender policies and guys playing
in girls' sports, I think people have rejected that.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
And let me let me cut you off there for
a sec because I think as the locker room guy
had this. We had this conversation with the HUD secretary
last week, and I think it's important. What percentage of
NFL players, current and past do you think believe that
men should be able to compete against women?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I would say it's under five percent. I think it's
a very very low number. I think anybody who has
a sister who watched their sisters play sports, or myself
with my daughters, the reason I got into coaching, like,
there was not a girls soccer team at the high
school that my daughter was going to go to, and
I said, well, that's ridiculous. We have to have a
girl soccer team. And they were like, well, we need
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a co and I said, well, I'll coach the team,
you know, and to provide that opportunity. I love what
sports does to develop discipline and toughness and camaraderie and
fighting for something that's greater than yourself. Those are all
lessons that you learn in sports to carry on the
rest of your lives. And I never want to see
a girl not have an opportunity because some guy decides
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I want to take my physical biological advantages and go
play a sport that I know that physically i'm better.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
At, or you know.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
I'll give you another example, like we would play because
I wanted our girls to win a state championship. So
we're going to practice against our guys team that was
really good. But I would sit down beforehand with the
guys coach and all the players on the guys team
and be like, listen, you can't go in for tackles
full speed against our girls. I don't want somebody getting
hurt in this practice. I want your speed and your
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power to stretch them and to push them, but I
don't want them getting injured. And that's the kind of
situation they create when you have girls competing against our
guys competing against girls in a physical sport.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Yeah, No, absolutely, Jay, I'm wondering.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I've never actually don't think I've ever gotten to talk
to an NFL kicker before, certainly not one of your stature.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
I'm sort of and I'm a very casual observer of
professional sports.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I'm not at Clay level where it is a life's passion,
not by a logshot, But I do wonder, and knowing
what I know about this, and having actually beaten most
of the Amherst College men's football team at Madden because
I was good at video games and we would have
tournaments when I was in college, and you were a
fantastic kicker.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's what I remember.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
I probably want some money off some of my friends.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Thanks to your leg.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Is being a kicker in the NFL the greatest job
in the NFL or the most stressful job in the NFL.
Because on the one hand, I think you get to
make great money, right, and this stuff is all pretty
well known. You make great money as a professional athlete,
and you get to put points on the board and
the team has to love you. But also, like if
you hit the upright and you don't get it, it
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might be a lonely ride back on the bus, like,
how should one think about that?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Well, I would say punter is a better job than kicker,
because if you have four out of five good punts
at a game, you're going to have a good game.
It's okay if you didn't have one great punt as
long as they don't return it for a touchdown. Whereas kicking,
you know, you could only miss three or four kicks
in a year to have a good year where they're
not going to look at replacing you, and those kicks
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be game winning kicks, Like you can't come in and
miss a couple of game winners and a team and
a fan base not think about replacing you. And that's
kind of the reality of kicking. You have to be
able to handle pressure, and you have to be able
to handle failure, you know.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
And that was.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Probably my greatest attribute. I wasn't I couldn't kick it
the farthest, I wasn't the best, I wasn't the most accurate,
but I could handle failure and it didn't defeat me.
It didn't break me going forward, you know. And when
I got to the point in my career where I
was like, Okay, I failed as bad as I could
fail Saturday Live did a spoof about me called the
Jake Feeley Story The Long Ride Home and didn't break me.
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That allowed me to be a lot better because I
started losing some of that fear of failure and just
having fun out there. And then the next nine years
after that skit, I didn't miss another game winner.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
What is it like as a kicker to be mocked
on Saturday Night Live?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I I had no idea about that either.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
So I missed three game winners with Giants out in
Seattle late in the season, one at the end of
the game too and overtime, obviously the worst game of
my career. And you know, the next next week, I'm
getting ready to We're gonna play Philadelphia Saturday night. I'm
trying to go to sleep. I'm trying not to lose
my job. The next day and I get a bunch
of text message and they're like, dude, they're killing you
(34:41):
on Saturday Live right now. And of course I didn't
look at it or watch it. I go play the
game the next day at Philadelphia, we go to overtime again.
I got a game winner again, and they called time
out to ice me and they play a montage or
by misses on the jumbo tron in the stadium from
the from the game where I missed all the game winners,
and you're sitting there, And that's where mental discipline comes in,
(35:03):
because you can't let your mind wander. You know, if
you miss this kick, you're probably gonna lose your job,
your kids are going to have to change schools, You're
gonna have to sell the house and move. You don't
know if you'll ever have a job in the NFL again.
But you can't let your mind think about those things.
You have to discipline it to not allow it to wander,
to either think about the positive implications or the negative implications.
And I think that's the challenge with kicking. It's why
(35:26):
you see guys that are really good one year and
then have a really bad miss and then can never
do it again.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Did you make the kick?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Of course I played for nine more years if I missed, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You made you made that kick?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Now is that still allowed to This is a great quest.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
I didn't know this backstory.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
This is Is it still Is it allowed in the
NFL to show negative highlights still on the jumbo dron?
Like I don't remember seeing a montage of kicker misses
obvious season ticket holder.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Is that still allowed today or has that been this?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
So the Meryra family was not happy after that game.
I know they went to the NFL and complained about
it because you kind of you take that in your
e strap late say, think of all the things you
could put up on a drummer tron during a game.
Oh yeah, totally the opposing players, you know mine, you
know you can put.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
On I would I would say that falls into a
category of actually bad sportsmanship. I don't even I don't
think that's all in good fun. I think it's bad sportsmanship.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
That's the city of brotherly love.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
So what do you expect, oh is Philly?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Okay, well you know they do have that courthouse under
the stadium, right, So I bet.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I bet that made the winning kick after they did
that unbelievably joyful for you in that celebration.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Would you always know, Jay, when you kicked? Would you
always know like the second you made contact? You know,
obviously there's like a couple of seconds where it's where
it's airborne, right, Would you know every time you hit it,
I got it or I didn't pretty much.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
As soon as you make contact, you know, if that
ball is starting where you want there were you know,
there's a couple of times that's win. Like the first
kick in that game I was talking about where I
missed a game winner. I hit it exactly where I
wanted in Seattle. I thought the wind was going to
bring it back right, and it shifted and it brought
it left, and you missed by you know a little bit.
But for the most part, you know, when you hit,
it's like a golfer. You kind of know the ball
comes off, you know, Okay, I hit that one.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Well, what's the best kick you ever made?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
The most important kick I ever made was probably in
high school in the state semifinals. I had a game
winner at the end of the game, and I make
that kick and we go onto the state finals. And
for me, that was when I first started thinking about
doing kicking as a career. I was a soccer player.
(37:37):
I kind of played everything growing up until that moment.
You know, I never really looked at kicking as something
I wanted to do, you know, And then that kick
led to me going to college at Michigan and then
getting into the NFL and then broadcasting for ten years
and now running for office. I kind of feel like
that kick started the journey for me over the next
quarter of a century.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Very cool.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
All right, how do people if they want us to
port you in Arizona's fifth what should they know and
what should they do?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Well? They should know the first of all, I'm a
fighter and I'm not afraid to stand up for my beliefs.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Working in broadcast media for a major network like CBS
like people didn't like that you would talk about your
support of Republicans, conservatives, and especially Trump, and I was
never afraid to do that. I would post pictures when
he and I would get together and play golf, and
I would get called into the principal's office all the
time for doing that. And my perspective always was, listen,
(38:33):
You're not going to do that if I'm posting something
that's liberal, So don't do it if I post something
that's conservative. But I think people should know that I'm
going to stand up and be an advocate for conservative
principles and the America First policy. You can go to
jfeeyfocongress dot com sign my petition. If you live in
the district or you can support us financially. But more
than anything, I just want to be somebody who is
(38:53):
willing to talk about their beliefs and do it in
a compassionate way and be able to advocate for Republicans
and conservative causes. And you know, we're going to have
a fight in twenty twenty six to keep the House
in the Senate, and I want to be part of
that fight.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Jay.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
One thing people may not know about you, Tom Brady
teammate at the University of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Quickly on your way out. What's Brady like?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
He is the most compassionate dude, you know. I mean
I never knew he was going to be as good
as he was. You know, we were at college for
four years together and roomed together and some of the
summers and worked at the University of Michigan golf course together,
and I just never knew he would be as good
as he was. But I knew he was a great leader.
I think that's the thing that stands out the most
(39:36):
is his willingness to be humble and to take all
the stuff that Belichick gave to him and to use
him as an example for everyone else. That's what led
to the greatness because he had those leadership qualities to
bring everybody together and then the unsatiable desire to be
the best ever.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Awesome stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Well, we hope the voters of Arizona's fifth Congressional District
are listening. And I love that you were willing to
take the slings and arrows for being a Trump guy
when it wasn't popular to be a Trump guy.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Thanks for having me on. Thanks for giving guys everything
you guys do. Love listening.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Appreciate that that's Jay Feely.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Awesome dude. Encourage you guys if you're in Arizona again
twenty twenty six. Once again, Arizona is going to be
a focal point, one of the big battlegrounds. Trump won
by a lot, but they're going to have the governor's race,
the congressional race is a lot going on there.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
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