November 9, 2025 • 37 mins
Clay and Buck do a post mortem analysis of the election results in VA, NJ and NY and Clay asks the audience for an apology. What does a Zohran Mamdani win mean for the future of the Democrat Party? Ronald Reagan’s warning about Big Government. Hint: it’s not good.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. The
sun is in fact up after a dark night, and
I'm in New York City, and it is certainly a
very dark morning in New York City. We will dive
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into as you might well imagine, Mom Donnie's huge win,
the wins in New Jersey and in Virginia for the
Democrat candidates. It is the one year anniversary of Trump's
big win. And certainly the Democrats who hate Trump, well,
they have not stopped hating Trump. And to me, Buck,
(00:53):
there are two big takeaways that I have and then
I'm curious whether you co sign or whether you have
different takeaways. And to me, let's start with New York City.
This is not an upset. Mam Donnie won a majority
of the vote in one of the highest turnout elections
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that New York City has seen.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
In most of the listeners'.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lives out there, So all of our wr people open
phone lines. By the way, producer Greg will open them
if all of you, Curtis Sleiewa people would like to
call in and apologize to me for correctly pointing out
that he had zero percent chance of winning, and that honestly,
I do think if he had dropped out earlier and
it had been a Cuomo against Mom Donnie straight up election,
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I think that Cuomo may have been able to win.
The latest numbers that I saw Buck, unless more have
come in, is that Mam Donnie won right around fifty
four point four percent of the vote, that is just
barely over a majority, and that the rest was split
between Sliwa and so New York City. Starting there, what
was your take? My biggest take is like, this is
(02:01):
what New York wanted.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The polls were all correct.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Let's take a moment, because we get a lot of oh,
you can't trust the polls, you can't know. The polls
were pretty much spot on the people that were leading
all one, and the margins were more or less what
was expected. Virginia might have been a little bigger than expected.
But look, we lost the governor's mansion in Virginia. We lost, well,
(02:26):
we didn't win the contest for the governor's mansion. In
New Jersey. We've got a communist mayor of New York
City Inbound Clay. I am wearing Soviet Union red today
in solidarity with Comrade Zoran. But the political consensus, the
wisdom of the chattering class, whatever you want to call it,
(02:48):
was locked in correct. And everything that we told you
to be fair was also correct. None of this. I
was hopeful that maybe we would steal something from New Jersey,
but we didn't. So it was not a not a
strong night. Look, these are very tough races in very
tough spaces for not just a Republican but for sanity.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, this is like the heart of darkness.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
When you're talking about New York City, you're talking about
you know, the northern part of Virginia, which now dominates
the state. Clay I will say, and we're going to
get into the demographic data too here that also completely
aligned with what we thought. If you thought some group
was going to vote Mam Donnie, they did. By the way,
Mom Donnie got over ninety percent of the black vote,
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something that was not talked about very much in advance
of the election. So that was the single strongest demographic
for Mom Donnie. But there are many you know, young women, millennials, Hispanics, Asians.
There's all these breakdowns of the data. We'll see Clay.
I think that at the biggest level, at the thirty
(03:55):
thousand foot view, this is a reminder that economics is
still the dominant political issue in America. Wherever you are,
people are worried about prices, They're worried about cost of living.
They're worried about their future and their children's future, or
even their ability to have children because of the future
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that they see, and the political party that addresses that
with more a plum, not just more accuracy. Zoran was
more fun than the other guys. Yeah, he's a communist,
He's gonna ruin New York. We all get that, right,
But Clay, who was more entertaining, who was more engaging,
who seemed like he wanted it more?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It's not even close. Cuomo barely showed up.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
New York City's in trouble with Mom Donnie, but they
voted for him, for sure. The turnout was huge. Here's
what I would say about Virginia and New Jersey, and
I think this is where not only do we look
at the results, but we have to spin it forward,
and we have to do it honestly. Trump got more
votes in New Jersey and in Virginia last year, then
(05:03):
either of the winning candidates, did Mickey, Cheryl or Spanberger? Okay,
why do I say that? Yes it was a presidential election.
Yes it's an off year election, but that always happens
in New Jersey in Virginia. Six hundred thousand Trump voters,
Buck did not show up and vote in both New
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Jersey and in Virginia. Six hundred thousand. Some of you
are listening to us right now, and you didn't go vote,
even though we change you to go vote.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay, shame?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
What does that mean going forward? The people Buck, who
hate Trump, they show up, their brains are broken. They
will show up at a school board vote because they
hate Trump. The people who love Trump, they don't show
up when Trump's not on the ballot. And so that
is ominous for twenty two twenty six, and candidly it's
(06:02):
ominous for twenty twenty eight, which is why I have
told you the pivot is coming very soon to Trump's
voters won't show up in twenty eight. And they're gonna
say Trump's voters won't show up in twenty six. And
that is to me, the biggest, most impactful thing about
what happened last night. Six hundred thousand people less showed
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up in New Jersey and Virginia. It wasn't that somehow
these Democrats won and turned out unbelievable numbers. The numbers
in New York City were unbelievable, and.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They were good.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I mean, they actually did do a good job of turnout,
I think in New York particularly, but in.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
New York City. But that's why I said, it's two
different takes. New York City, they said, we want Commie
Mom Donnie, he's our guy. We are excited to go
to the polls and make this guy the next mayor.
You said, it's because he's exciting. I mean, I think
that he ran. I think you got to give him
credit a great campaign and he delivered based on an
awful all full pitch reality wise, But in New Jersey
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and Virginia, the biggest story to me is Trump's people
didn't show up.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
There is a fundamental reality that the GOP is going
to have to address. Look, this is an off year election.
This was Democrat home turf really across the board. I mean,
Virginia is a purple blue state. I know we had
that nice, that nice off year win before with Youngkin win.
(07:27):
Some seers seems like a wonderful lady and a just
a very good person. A completely unmemorable campaign. Not to
be mean, I think she's very impressive and I obviously
would have voted for her to living in Virginia. But
just not a campaigner. You know, you can be a
good leader, you can be a good decider, but not
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really a campaigner. Zorn is kind of funny, Clay, He's
the opposite. Zorn created a show. Zorn remembered the lessons
of Saul Alinsky. Go back and read Rule for Radicals.
Everybody Alynski there is there is an evil brilliance to
so much that is in that book. One of the
things is make it fun. Yeah, make it an activity.
(08:09):
Make activism something people want to show up to because
they'll feel cool and they'll laugh and they'll be with
their friends. And Zoran manage to do that. Now Trump
has had that same effect on the right. Trump is
both a political and a cultural phenomenon. People show up
(08:30):
with their MAGA hats, People show up feeling like they
are part of something. The big question for twenty eight,
more so even than twenty six, I think Clay, is
how does the MAGA movement coalesce around an air apparent.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
How does Trump play into that?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And this is gonna be something we talk a lot
about in the next year. But in the meantime, the economy,
and that means healthcare, that means inflation, the cost of rent,
the cost of groceries, the cost of everything you got.
I have messaging on this everyone or else, the commies
will be in charge.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Here is a funny tweet on this, because we are
going to try to have some humor, because sometimes you
get your askine, you have to have a little bit
of to have a little bit of black sense of humor, right,
a dark sense of humion.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I told my parents just make sure that go bags
are by the front door. I'm here in Florida. If
you got a flee you know where to go. They're fine.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Brad Chadlington, I don't know who he is, but I
saw this and I thought it was so funny. The richest, whitest,
most sheltered girl you know, from the wealthiest suburb in
the country is posting a picture of zorn mom Donnie
on her story right Now, captioned power to the people
from her soho apartment that's paid for by her wealthy
(09:43):
conservative father. There is a lot of truth to this,
because the more recently you arrived in New York City,
I saw a breakdown based on length of time that
people have lived in New York City, the more likely
you were to vote for Mom to overwhelming majority. I
think it was eighty two percent I saw of people
(10:05):
that have gotten to New York City in the last decade. Now,
a lot of those are immigrants, right, which is a
whole big discussion in general. But a lot of those
people are actually just young college kids like the girl
probably that I just described.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well, we all we got to slow immigration down in general.
There's another conversation that ever needs to have. If you
have the largest city in America with being largely determined
its future being determined by people who have been in
America for only a couple of years, that's that's a problem.
That's actually not what you want. No other country would
allow that. Yeah, I know the worst of we've been
(10:39):
brainwashed to believe, but that's all you know. If you
just came across the border, even if you're illegal, you're
as American as everybody who's ever been here, and even
if their famili's been here for generations. That is not
true and we have to have a discussion about that
as well. We're good, We've had a lot of immigration.
You know, We've had a lot of legal immigration, a
lot of illegal immigration. It's time to it's time to
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tighten up some of these numbers a little bit and
let assimilation and Americanism and Americanizing take place for everybody.
It can't just be this wide open door and you
get people coming here from all over the world who
are saying, you know what I want, communism. That's not good.
That's not going to help us very much here by
the country went through this before the city of Chicago,
in particular Clay right around the turn of the twentieth century,
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there were all kinds of commedis and socialists and anarchists
who were showing up and it was a real concern.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Then.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The biggest issue I would say with illegal immigration and
immigration now is back in the day when we had
you know where I am right now in New York City,
huge Irish populations, huge Italian populations, huge numbers of immigrants.
A lot of them still came from a Western civilization
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culture that recognized that Western civilization and yes, Christianity, although
it might have been Catholic. Remember the big battle there
was between Protestants and Catholics. There was a common flu
of agreement on some level. A lot of people coming now,
which is certainly incredibly ironic, are arguing America is an
(12:09):
awful place. Oh oh, and America's history is awful.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And this will I think it's even worse Clay, because
there's also this is a spoils system that people now arrive.
And you see this in Minneapolis, and you see this
in New York, and you see this in cities where
there is a particularly increasingly obvious tribal, newly arrived political attitude.
Right like I have arrived, I'm going to vote as
(12:35):
a voting block to dispossess the natives, the ones who
have been here. And by the way, to be very clear,
that's all Americans. That's white, Black, Asian, Latino. But it's
people that were born here, people that were raised here,
people that are American. There's now the new arrivals that
are saying, why do I even have to Why don't
I even have to conform? I don't have to learn
English even or do any of this stuff. I'm just
(12:56):
going to stay with my voting block here do you see.
By the way, if you want to look at a
version of this, Sweden, the Netherlands, they've got big problems
because people show up and they say, I just want
the welfare state, and I'm going to have nothing to
do with your culture and your society. Now, look, there's
a very complicated, broad discussion with a lot of things
going on, but in New York it is very stark.
(13:21):
People who are college educated and young who have been brainwashed.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I will just say it. They have been brainwashed. They
do not know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
The other problem on this, though, is they are getting
screwed by not having assets because of the inflationary policies
of both Democrats and Republicans, and the way that we've
created a system that unfortunately is intergenerational theft. No one
wants to hear that, but it's true. Thirty seven trillion
dollars of debt. This is a problem. We do actually
(13:49):
have to deal with this. So there's a lot a
lot of lessons I think you can take from this,
but there's nothing dire here. It's an off year election.
We expected all these results play.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
We told people that these results were coming, and a
lot of people out there said, I don't believe the polls.
Remember Hillary Clay, You're the reason Slee was gonna win.
When I said, Okay, I'll wear a beret for like,
he got seven and a half percent of the vote.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, seven and a half percent of vote. I think
I could have gotten seven and a half percent of
the vote. Honestly, I mean you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You would have gotten more than seven and a half
percent of the vote.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So, you know, a native son of New York formerly
of the NYPD's some got decent hair. No beret, but
decent hair. Yeah, it was not a good showing for Slee. Well,
you fled the city just in time.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
By the way, a lot of people are gonna say, Buck,
you know, yeah got out.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I would like to say thank you to everybody who
has been buying my book. It came out two days ago.
We got a call Buck saying we have been flagged
to be surveyed by the New York Times, which has
never happened before. So if you guys will continue, please
to go by the book. I think we got a
good shot to get on the New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's really in your best interest to have a copy
of Balls.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And if you know somebody who doesn't have balls, it's
a great Christmas gift to just say, hey, got you
a pair of balls for Christmas. But in all seriousness,
I think you'll enjoy it. I also read it. Buck,
you were saying, part of your Christmas break is now
going to be spent. I looked at my reading of
the book. Is over six hours. Now, that probably double
(15:30):
the amount of time that it took at least to
make a six hour recording. You got three days scheduled
in the recording studio. Is that what you've got right now?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Indeed, yes, indeed, Oh oh Buck, it's Christmas. Think about
family and Santa and trees and all that good stuff,
and you'll tied cheer and three days in your home
radio studio recording the book that you took two years
to write. The things we do for content, my friends,
the things we do to bring you the.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Best, and you have to be shameless. I was on
Glenn Beck earlier. Thank you for Glenn Beck. I've been
on Fox News all over the place. I'm gonna be
on with Sean Hannity tonight. Uh and so anything on
his radio show. I was on Sean Hannity last night. Uh,
if you guys would please go by it Amazon. Clay
Travis type it in the book comes up. I deeply
(16:22):
appreciate it. Uh, okay, we didn't play Sean. You said
he's a sports guy. Is he a See Yankees or
a Mets guy? Or does he stay out of that
because that can get contentious. That's a great question. I
don't know what his actual sports team affiliations are. I
mean he lived or has he gone full Florida like now?
I guess I'm supposed to root for the Miami Heat,
which still feels like cheating given the Heat Nicks rivalries
(16:46):
of the past.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, And unfortunately, the Miami Dolphins are not a NFL
franchise that anybody wants to be rooting for right now.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
They're kind of a mess.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
What a lab they This was the last time they
were good with Dan Marino. I mean we have to
go back to the nineth that's rough.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They have not found a quarterback basically in thirty years
since Dan Marino, and every Miami Dolphins game you go to,
there's a guy in the number thirteen. Dan Marino Jersey.
Still it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But it's also not really the Miami Dolphin's fault because
the Laces were Out.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know what movie they would never allow to be
made today, and certainly they would never allow it to
be sponsored by the NFL. Ace Ventura speaking of Laces Out,
Oh yeah, that movie I watched with my kids.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
They loved it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But it had Dan Marino in it, It had Don
Shula in it, and the bad guy, which would never
be allowed today spoiler alert, was actually a man pretending
to be a woman. Finkel is Einhorn if you remember
the Einhorn is Finkel if you remember that. Memorable Discoveries
played the soundtrack from the Crying Game When the Revelation Happened,
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which is another movie about a lady with a man surprise,
and that would never ever be allowed to be made
these days, that's for sure. I just loved the idea
of if the NFL were involved in a movie that
was considered in any way. By the way, this was
what ninety four ninety something like that. I mean, it
wasn't that long ago, and I'm surprised they still air it.
(18:18):
You know, they have to give trigger warnings now before
all different sorts of Disney movies. I would imagine their
trigger warnings on this thing, probably many different places, and
many of you are triggered in the New York City
era area. I wanted to play this, Buck, because I
flagged it yesterday and we didn't get to it. We
didn't play very much of Mom Donnie's victory speech because
(18:39):
I didn't want to make all of you throw up.
But I did think this was a really kind of
useful contrast. First, let's go back to nineteen eighty six.
President Ronald Reagan said his nine most terrifying words were
as follows, cut twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I think you all know that I've always felt that
the nine most terrifying words in the English language are
I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Okay, well known Reagan line. Here is what Mamdannie said
last night, which is a direct repudiation of that iconic
Ronald Reagan line, and it is cut nineteen.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
We will prove that there is no problem too large
for government to solve, and no concern too small for
it to care about.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
This is just like he distilled in essence my worst nightmare.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Let's play that one more time so you guys can
hear it? I mean, because it is a director repudiation
of what Reagan said cut nineteen.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
This is my.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Concern about New York City. Do you think the government
handles anything well? Mamdani says, they want to do everything
for you.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
We will prove that there is no problem too large
for government to solve and no concern too small for
it to care about.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Awful.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I think that I read a big piece in the
New York Times. They had their biographical sketch of Mom
Donnie and his campaign, thousands of words. I read it
this morning. The only thing I can say about Mandannie
is the hope is that he just is going to
abandon trying to deliver on the vast majority of the
things that he claimed he was going to deliver on.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, ives Capinario. That's bad.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I wish I could say something better about how I
think this is likely to go. I also, you're not
going to see the huge outflow from New York uh
and I think that's largely because.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
If COVID didn't drive you out of New York City,
I don't think Mom Danny will.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And now that may be also because people are rooted
there in ways that even if they wanted to leave,
it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
They got their kids in school, their job, their family,
and I get that moving is not as easy as
I happen to be at a place in life where
not only did I want to move, but I had
my then fiance who was also like, let's move to Florida,
and it was all it all felt that it all
came together a lot of people. It's more complicated than that.
This matters though, for the budget of New York City
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because a very small percent. It really actually mirrors the
national tax reality, which is that one percent of New
Yorkers pay fifty percent of the taxes. And you can
break it down even further point zero one percent of
New Yorkers pay a shockingly large I don't know what
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the figure is, but a shockingly large amount of New
York City's taxes. So it's not just the high earners,
it's really the ultra high earners. And so all the
complaining about millionaires and billionaires that Bernie Sanders and others do.
Without their earnings two tax you can't have the socialism
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that these people are advocating for.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So there we have it.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Man, they're gonna learn I think they're gonna learn the
hard way about New York or about Mam Donnie rather
in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
This was also interesting. This has cut seventeen.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
He very clearly from his victory speech here made this
about Trump play seventeen.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
how to defeat him, it is the city that gave
rise to him. And if there is any way to
terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions
that allowed him to accumulate power.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
This is not only how we.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Stopped Trump, it's how we stop the next one. So,
Donald Trump, since I know you're watching.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I have four words for you.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Turn the volume up.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
This will all look very funny in retrospect when this
guy has made a complete mess of New York and
is a joke and everyone realizes that he has no
idea what he's doing. Because that's what's happened in every
every city that elects some super progressive, you end up
with someone like who's the mayor Frey who just won
and again barely Minneapolili.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, the guy was crying at the casket. He's in tears.
The casket of George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
The guy is such a such an absolute clown. Portland,
San Francisco, Chicago, all the all these very progressive mayors
are disasters.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
They can't point to.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
One who's a real lefty and say, well, look at
what a great look at how awesome that city is going.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, they always ruin it. So he's going to make.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
A mess of things as well. But I think it's
worth noting that he's just the mayor of a city,
and he somehow made this for his audience at least
about Trump and the fantasyland stuff too, about a despot.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know, you wouldn't have crowds of people cheering.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
For you, you a little twerp if he was really
a despot and they were all scared of what the
evil king would do to you, like they just live
in a fantasy land.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The whole thing is make believe.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How about Schumer getting asked who he voted for and
not giving an answer.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I love that's classic.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
The juck Schumer is.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I mean, if you just step back and don't overthink it,
but you just take a step back and think about
how desperate he must be every day. He's what seventy
five or whatever, the heck he is. He should be
just comfortably becoming a grandpa. His time has passed. He
has no resonance at all with his current party, and
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he basically just tries to avoid being noticed all the time,
despite the fact that he's sent it minority leader. And
I really think he lives in constant fear that AOC
is going to decide that she's gonna primary him, because
he'll get smoked in the primary and his political career
will be over.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
AC's going to run for president, I might add, and
she's going to be I think a top contender for
the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I don't think she will win the nomination, but you can.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Just see how we've all you and I agree here
Newsom at the top of the ticket, AOC as the VP,
but she's going to make her own run, and it's
because she represents the real vanguard of the Democrat Party today.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The best option that Chuck Schumer has is actually that AOC.
The best option is that she doesn't want his job,
that she thinks his job is not significant enough, so
she's going for the big prize. Well to the Team
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Speaker 1 (25:51):
I know that w R listeners in New York City
have been unhappy with me because I told you all
that we were going to see an absolute destruction of
Curtis Liwa, and that occurred, and that Mom Donnie was
gonna win unless he was going head to head with
only one person, even if it was the awful Andrew Cuomo.
But those of you who have been listening for a
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while will remember that I said there was a shining
better day to come for New Yorkers even if Mom
Donnie won, and I said because I really do think
it will open the door to winning a more significant office,
which is the governorship, and the governorship of New York
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with the awful Kathy Hokel in office, who basically decapitated
Andrew Cuomo over this sexual harassment scandal that wasn't actually
in the grand scheme of things that bad. I mean,
what Cuomo did during COVID was infinitely worse than any
of the allegations against him relating to sexual harassment. So
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now we have the awful Hathy Hochl as governor, maybe
the worst govern in America. Which is obviously JB. Pritzker,
Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom. There's a lot of people I
think we could toss out there and say are in
that mix. But this morning on Fox and Friends, I
don't think it's coincidental on her timing. Elie Stephonic, former
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New York Congressman. She would have been the ambassador to
the UN, but she decided to go back to Congress
to help because the majority was not very substantial there.
She has announced that she is running for governor to
make New York affordable and safe. She did that this morning, Buck,
this was a positive Let's listen, cut one.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I'm running for governor to make New York affordable and safe.
We have seen decades of single party rule led by Democrats,
and Kathy Hochl is the worst governor in America. New
York is the most unaffordable state of the nation, with
the highest taxes, the highest energy bills, the highest utility bills.
We also have a crime crisis because Kathy Hochel has
brought us failed bail reform and has embraced the defund
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the police. Democrats and after this week Ainsley, when we
saw a raging anti semi prohamas communist who wants to
raise taxes, and frankly, he barely won the majority of
New York City voters. Kathy Holkle endorsed him and bent
the niche she has failed New Yorkers.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And so if you are a frustrated New York voter
right now, if you are a New York City area resident,
and you are thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this
is awful. Next year the state gets the opportunity to
punch back and react to what happened in New York City.
And I do think that Alice Stefanic would be an
incredible choice for New York. She is infinitely better than
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Kathy Hochel. She's gonna be fighting an uphill battle, but
oftentimes election cycle swing from one direction to another, and
electing a communist in New York City maybe you want
to elect then a decently reasonable, rational person to be governor.
So I wanted to start with that buck because I
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wanted to start with at least some positivity after a
tough week.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
The positivity is I do think this helps at least
Stefanic a great deal.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That mom Donnie won.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
It would be so nice for the Empire state to
return to a place of sanity. You're never going to
get Texas or Florida policies in New York, although wouldn't
that be nice. But you will be able to, I think,
have a very close contest in the next governor's race
because one Hokl is terrible and two Stefanic is a
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pretty talented and solid choice to run on the Republican side,
So that that is good. And also to your point
about how this has been a tough week. We lost
races we were supposed to lose. Yep, there was no
big shock or surprise at all, and that's just the
way it's going to go sometimes. So we dust ourselves off,
we move forward. Remember Trump is still in charge, He's
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still doing great things. And one of them is just
pointing out this has cut three Clay that Nancy Pelosi's
retirement is perhaps the greatest act of patriotism she has
ever she has ever made. Play three.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
I think she's an evil woman. I'm glad she's retiring.
I think she did the country a great service by retiring.
I think she was a tremendous liability for the country.
I think she was an evil woman who did a
poor job to costs the country a lot in damages
and in reputation. I thought she was terrible, thank you
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very much.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I like that he's just letting him rip. Look, she's retiring.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
He's not at a at a at a situation here
where he has to say nice things, and he's not
going to say nice things because those would be untrue.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I think Nancy.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Pelosi has been deeply destructive to the country, and I
think it'll be a better place without her wielding the
iron fist of Pelosi over the Democrats in the House.
So let's see the Democrats really are without Pelosi running
cover and and keeping them from being completely insane in
public before elections.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I do think it has to really gall Nancy Pelosi
that she had to step down as Trump is at
his most descendant power.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's kind of a you know, chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
If I were Trump advisor there, I would say, you
know what, I love that Nancy Pelosi recognized that it's
time for her to step down, and I couldn't think
it's better for the country that she's leaving the fight
right as she recognizes that I've won all the battles.
I wish Nancy well in retirement, and the biggest loss
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we're going to have with Nancy is I've been trying
to figure out how to be as good of an
investor as her.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't know what we're all going to do without
having the.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Nancy Pelosi stock tracker out there to make us all rich.
She's the Warren Buffett of Congress and really kind of gigger.
But I think Trump genuinely detests her, So that came
across in certainly the answer that he gave in that
press conference yesterday. They're also continuing to battle, by the way,
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on the government shutdown, and we'll see, Buck. My thought
is that when people get frustrated at airports, then it's Democrats,
it's Republicans, it's independents. A lot of people will put
up with political shenanigans until it starts directly impacting their
day to day existence. And for those of us who travel,
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and those of us who are trying to pick people
up at airports, and those of us who were just
trying to get around the country, this thing. Can you imagine, Buck,
if this thing extended for another few weeks and we
moved into the Thanksgiving travel season. That would be absolutely bonkers.
It's the most difficult time of year to be traveling anyway,
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and then you're going to layer it on top of
people not getting paid and all of the chaos. And really,
the Democrat objectives here have always been very difficult to
explain in a succinct fashion. And they're the ones shutting
down the government. And I feel like they got their
no Kings protests, they got their election wins in New
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Jersey and Virginia. There's zero doubt that Virginia was aided
because there's so many federal employees by the fact that
the government shut down happened. Now, let's go ahead and
just open the government back up. And in fact, he's
the same guy. This is exactly what John Fetterman said.
Buck play cut seven World.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Kitchens feeding as government workers were in my neighborhood in
Navy Yard. I mean, it's really impacting these folks. It's like,
you know, we've all been paid, but all these workers
haven't been paid. The Capitol police that are protecting here
haven't been paid. Our military, Why that's not controversial. Pay
our military, pay all these folks, and I'll make sure
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everyone's fed. Now, why would we put ourselves in that
situation at this point? You know, we've had the election.
Now we can all reopen and I'll find a way forward.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Now, this is kind of crazy, Buck, when you really
break it all down, that maybe the thing that we
were most wrong on on the show in four years,
aside from the Red Wave twenty twenty two, I never
would have ever believed having watched the twenty twenty two
Senate campaigns, I never would have believed that John Fetterman
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would end up one of the most irrational, reasonable, efficient,
and effective senators when it comes to just analyzing basic
things like this. Would you have ever bought in, like
if we went back in time to when he was
engaged in the debate, when he was running against doctor Oz,
I never would have ever believed that this could be
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a situation where Fetterman were lauding and saying, Hey, this
guy is actually one of the best troop tellers on
Capitol Hill. But I mean, everything he just said was
eminently reasonable, not particularly early part is in and rational
And I can't believe I'm saying this, but we need
five or six more John Fetterman's in order to get
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the country back up and running and get the government open.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
What are the Democrats really achieving with all the Well,
that's the question. That's the thing that we're gonna have
to look back on when this eventually ends.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
What have they gotten.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I do not think Republicans can give them what they want,
because then you've said a precedent. I might add, the
minority Party can say I just want billions of dollars
that have nothing to do with the actual funding of
the government, or else I'm gonna take my ball and
go home, or else I'm I'm going to stop things
from happening in DC.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You can't negotiate with terrorists, my friends. This is congressional terrorism,
so to speak. This is not playing by the pre
established rules. So eventually you're gonna have to just see
who's got the grit, who stays together as a as
a caucus, and I'm I'm hopeful Republicans stay with it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I do think the one thing Trump keeps saying, hey,
we need the filibuster. You know, they've moderated the filibuster
on ending the filibuster. They've moderated the filibuster on a
great number of different aspects. To me, there is a
decent argument to be made, and I think our friend
Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin has made this argument publicly
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for some time, and in fact, if he's listening, he's
welcome to call in and make it better than I'm
about to make it. But can we just do away
with the ability to shut down the government and require
there be sixty votes to reopen it? That doesn't seem
like the filibuster for many things makes sense. Should we
have a filibuster when it comes to whether you can
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add Supreme Court justices or add senators from New Jersey,
senators from.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
You can't have a minority of the Senate say sorry,
no government business till I get what I want.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
That would seem like a solution. And look, Republicans may
be frustrate by that somewhere down the line, but the
majority party should be able to keep the government open.
That seems very basic to me, and so you know,
I would love to hear Senator Johnson explain exactly that perspective.
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But it seems like a reasonable middle ground that doesn't
require eliminating the entirety of the filibuster and instead would
just allow government to be open so that we can
all be able to take airplane flights safely, and so
that the soldiers can get paid, and so we make
sure that a lot of people out there who are
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doing government jobs like air traffic controllers aren't getting paychecks
showing that they earned zero dollars despite the fact that
they've been working crazy hours
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. The
sun is in fact up after a dark night, and
I'm in New York City, and it is certainly a
very dark morning in New York City. We will dive
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into as you might well imagine, Mom Donnie's huge win,
the wins in New Jersey and in Virginia for the
Democrat candidates. It is the one year anniversary of Trump's
big win. And certainly the Democrats who hate Trump, well,
they have not stopped hating Trump. And to me, Buck,
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there are two big takeaways that I have and then
I'm curious whether you co sign or whether you have
different takeaways. And to me, let's start with New York City.
This is not an upset. Mam Donnie won a majority
of the vote in one of the highest turnout elections
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that New York City has seen.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
In most of the listeners'.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lives out there, So all of our wr people open
phone lines. By the way, producer Greg will open them
if all of you, Curtis Sleiewa people would like to
call in and apologize to me for correctly pointing out
that he had zero percent chance of winning, and that honestly,
I do think if he had dropped out earlier and
it had been a Cuomo against Mom Donnie straight up election,
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I think that Cuomo may have been able to win.
The latest numbers that I saw Buck, unless more have
come in, is that Mam Donnie won right around fifty
four point four percent of the vote, that is just
barely over a majority, and that the rest was split
between Sliwa and so New York City. Starting there, what
was your take? My biggest take is like, this is
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what New York wanted.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The polls were all correct.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Let's take a moment, because we get a lot of oh,
you can't trust the polls, you can't know. The polls
were pretty much spot on the people that were leading
all one, and the margins were more or less what
was expected. Virginia might have been a little bigger than expected.
But look, we lost the governor's mansion in Virginia. We lost, well,
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we didn't win the contest for the governor's mansion. In
New Jersey. We've got a communist mayor of New York
City Inbound Clay. I am wearing Soviet Union red today
in solidarity with Comrade Zoran. But the political consensus, the
wisdom of the chattering class, whatever you want to call it,
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was locked in correct. And everything that we told you
to be fair was also correct. None of this. I
was hopeful that maybe we would steal something from New Jersey,
but we didn't. So it was not a not a
strong night. Look, these are very tough races in very
tough spaces for not just a Republican but for sanity.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, this is like the heart of darkness.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
When you're talking about New York City, you're talking about
you know, the northern part of Virginia, which now dominates
the state. Clay I will say, and we're going to
get into the demographic data too here that also completely
aligned with what we thought. If you thought some group
was going to vote Mam Donnie, they did. By the way,
Mom Donnie got over ninety percent of the black vote,
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something that was not talked about very much in advance
of the election. So that was the single strongest demographic
for Mom Donnie. But there are many you know, young women, millennials, Hispanics, Asians.
There's all these breakdowns of the data. We'll see Clay.
I think that at the biggest level, at the thirty
(03:55):
thousand foot view, this is a reminder that economics is
still the dominant political issue in America. Wherever you are,
people are worried about prices, They're worried about cost of living.
They're worried about their future and their children's future, or
even their ability to have children because of the future
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that they see, and the political party that addresses that
with more a plum, not just more accuracy. Zoran was
more fun than the other guys. Yeah, he's a communist,
He's gonna ruin New York. We all get that, right,
But Clay, who was more entertaining, who was more engaging,
who seemed like he wanted it more?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It's not even close. Cuomo barely showed up.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
New York City's in trouble with Mom Donnie, but they
voted for him, for sure. The turnout was huge. Here's
what I would say about Virginia and New Jersey, and
I think this is where not only do we look
at the results, but we have to spin it forward,
and we have to do it honestly. Trump got more
votes in New Jersey and in Virginia last year, then
(05:03):
either of the winning candidates, did Mickey, Cheryl or Spanberger? Okay,
why do I say that? Yes it was a presidential election.
Yes it's an off year election, but that always happens
in New Jersey in Virginia. Six hundred thousand Trump voters,
Buck did not show up and vote in both New
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Jersey and in Virginia. Six hundred thousand. Some of you
are listening to us right now, and you didn't go vote,
even though we change you to go vote.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Okay, shame?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
What does that mean going forward? The people Buck, who
hate Trump, they show up, their brains are broken. They
will show up at a school board vote because they
hate Trump. The people who love Trump, they don't show
up when Trump's not on the ballot. And so that
is ominous for twenty two twenty six, and candidly it's
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ominous for twenty twenty eight, which is why I have
told you the pivot is coming very soon to Trump's
voters won't show up in twenty eight. And they're gonna
say Trump's voters won't show up in twenty six. And
that is to me, the biggest, most impactful thing about
what happened last night. Six hundred thousand people less showed
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up in New Jersey and Virginia. It wasn't that somehow
these Democrats won and turned out unbelievable numbers. The numbers
in New York City were unbelievable, and.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
They were good.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I mean, they actually did do a good job of turnout,
I think in New York particularly, but in.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
New York City. But that's why I said, it's two
different takes. New York City, they said, we want Commie
Mom Donnie, he's our guy. We are excited to go
to the polls and make this guy the next mayor.
You said, it's because he's exciting. I mean, I think
that he ran. I think you got to give him
credit a great campaign and he delivered based on an
awful all full pitch reality wise, But in New Jersey
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and Virginia, the biggest story to me is Trump's people
didn't show up.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
There is a fundamental reality that the GOP is going
to have to address. Look, this is an off year election.
This was Democrat home turf really across the board. I mean,
Virginia is a purple blue state. I know we had
that nice, that nice off year win before with Youngkin win.
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Some seers seems like a wonderful lady and a just
a very good person. A completely unmemorable campaign. Not to
be mean, I think she's very impressive and I obviously
would have voted for her to living in Virginia. But
just not a campaigner. You know, you can be a
good leader, you can be a good decider, but not
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really a campaigner. Zorn is kind of funny, Clay, He's
the opposite. Zorn created a show. Zorn remembered the lessons
of Saul Alinsky. Go back and read Rule for Radicals.
Everybody Alynski there is there is an evil brilliance to
so much that is in that book. One of the
things is make it fun. Yeah, make it an activity.
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Make activism something people want to show up to because
they'll feel cool and they'll laugh and they'll be with
their friends. And Zoran manage to do that. Now Trump
has had that same effect on the right. Trump is
both a political and a cultural phenomenon. People show up
(08:30):
with their MAGA hats, People show up feeling like they
are part of something. The big question for twenty eight,
more so even than twenty six, I think Clay, is
how does the MAGA movement coalesce around an air apparent.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
How does Trump play into that?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
And this is gonna be something we talk a lot
about in the next year. But in the meantime, the economy,
and that means healthcare, that means inflation, the cost of rent,
the cost of groceries, the cost of everything you got.
I have messaging on this everyone or else, the commies
will be in charge.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Here is a funny tweet on this, because we are
going to try to have some humor, because sometimes you
get your askine, you have to have a little bit
of to have a little bit of black sense of humor, right,
a dark sense of humion.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I told my parents just make sure that go bags
are by the front door. I'm here in Florida. If
you got a flee you know where to go. They're fine.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Brad Chadlington, I don't know who he is, but I
saw this and I thought it was so funny. The richest, whitest,
most sheltered girl you know, from the wealthiest suburb in
the country is posting a picture of zorn mom Donnie
on her story right Now, captioned power to the people
from her soho apartment that's paid for by her wealthy
(09:43):
conservative father. There is a lot of truth to this,
because the more recently you arrived in New York City,
I saw a breakdown based on length of time that
people have lived in New York City, the more likely
you were to vote for Mom to overwhelming majority. I
think it was eighty two percent I saw of people
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that have gotten to New York City in the last decade. Now,
a lot of those are immigrants, right, which is a
whole big discussion in general. But a lot of those
people are actually just young college kids like the girl
probably that I just described.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well, we all we got to slow immigration down in general.
There's another conversation that ever needs to have. If you
have the largest city in America with being largely determined
its future being determined by people who have been in
America for only a couple of years, that's that's a problem.
That's actually not what you want. No other country would
allow that. Yeah, I know the worst of we've been
(10:39):
brainwashed to believe, but that's all you know. If you
just came across the border, even if you're illegal, you're
as American as everybody who's ever been here, and even
if their famili's been here for generations. That is not
true and we have to have a discussion about that
as well. We're good, We've had a lot of immigration.
You know, We've had a lot of legal immigration, a
lot of illegal immigration. It's time to it's time to
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tighten up some of these numbers a little bit and
let assimilation and Americanism and Americanizing take place for everybody.
It can't just be this wide open door and you
get people coming here from all over the world who
are saying, you know what I want, communism. That's not good.
That's not going to help us very much here by
the country went through this before the city of Chicago,
in particular Clay right around the turn of the twentieth century,
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there were all kinds of commedis and socialists and anarchists
who were showing up and it was a real concern.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Then.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The biggest issue I would say with illegal immigration and
immigration now is back in the day when we had
you know where I am right now in New York City,
huge Irish populations, huge Italian populations, huge numbers of immigrants.
A lot of them still came from a Western civilization
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culture that recognized that Western civilization and yes, Christianity, although
it might have been Catholic. Remember the big battle there
was between Protestants and Catholics. There was a common flu
of agreement on some level. A lot of people coming now,
which is certainly incredibly ironic, are arguing America is an
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awful place. Oh oh, and America's history is awful.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And this will I think it's even worse Clay, because
there's also this is a spoils system that people now arrive.
And you see this in Minneapolis, and you see this
in New York, and you see this in cities where
there is a particularly increasingly obvious tribal, newly arrived political attitude.
Right like I have arrived, I'm going to vote as
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a voting block to dispossess the natives, the ones who
have been here. And by the way, to be very clear,
that's all Americans. That's white, Black, Asian, Latino. But it's
people that were born here, people that were raised here,
people that are American. There's now the new arrivals that
are saying, why do I even have to Why don't
I even have to conform? I don't have to learn
English even or do any of this stuff. I'm just
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going to stay with my voting block here do you see.
By the way, if you want to look at a
version of this, Sweden, the Netherlands, they've got big problems
because people show up and they say, I just want
the welfare state, and I'm going to have nothing to
do with your culture and your society. Now, look, there's
a very complicated, broad discussion with a lot of things
going on, but in New York it is very stark.
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People who are college educated and young who have been brainwashed.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I will just say it. They have been brainwashed. They
do not know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
The other problem on this, though, is they are getting
screwed by not having assets because of the inflationary policies
of both Democrats and Republicans, and the way that we've
created a system that unfortunately is intergenerational theft. No one
wants to hear that, but it's true. Thirty seven trillion
dollars of debt. This is a problem. We do actually
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have to deal with this. So there's a lot a
lot of lessons I think you can take from this,
but there's nothing dire here. It's an off year election.
We expected all these results play.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
We told people that these results were coming, and a
lot of people out there said, I don't believe the polls.
Remember Hillary Clay, You're the reason Slee was gonna win.
When I said, Okay, I'll wear a beret for like,
he got seven and a half percent of the vote.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, seven and a half percent of vote. I think
I could have gotten seven and a half percent of
the vote. Honestly, I mean you know, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You would have gotten more than seven and a half
percent of the vote.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So, you know, a native son of New York formerly
of the NYPD's some got decent hair. No beret, but
decent hair. Yeah, it was not a good showing for Slee. Well,
you fled the city just in time.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
By the way, a lot of people are gonna say, Buck,
you know, yeah got out.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I would like to say thank you to everybody who
has been buying my book. It came out two days ago.
We got a call Buck saying we have been flagged
to be surveyed by the New York Times, which has
never happened before. So if you guys will continue, please
to go by the book. I think we got a
good shot to get on the New York Times bestseller list.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's really in your best interest to have a copy
of Balls.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And if you know somebody who doesn't have balls, it's
a great Christmas gift to just say, hey, got you
a pair of balls for Christmas. But in all seriousness,
I think you'll enjoy it. I also read it. Buck,
you were saying, part of your Christmas break is now
going to be spent. I looked at my reading of
the book. Is over six hours. Now, that probably double
(15:30):
the amount of time that it took at least to
make a six hour recording. You got three days scheduled
in the recording studio. Is that what you've got right now?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Indeed, yes, indeed, Oh oh Buck, it's Christmas. Think about
family and Santa and trees and all that good stuff,
and you'll tied cheer and three days in your home
radio studio recording the book that you took two years
to write. The things we do for content, my friends,
the things we do to bring you the.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Best, and you have to be shameless. I was on
Glenn Beck earlier. Thank you for Glenn Beck. I've been
on Fox News all over the place. I'm gonna be
on with Sean Hannity tonight. Uh and so anything on
his radio show. I was on Sean Hannity last night. Uh,
if you guys would please go by it Amazon. Clay
Travis type it in the book comes up. I deeply
(16:22):
appreciate it. Uh, okay, we didn't play Sean. You said
he's a sports guy. Is he a See Yankees or
a Mets guy? Or does he stay out of that
because that can get contentious. That's a great question. I
don't know what his actual sports team affiliations are. I
mean he lived or has he gone full Florida like now?
I guess I'm supposed to root for the Miami Heat,
which still feels like cheating given the Heat Nicks rivalries
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of the past.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, And unfortunately, the Miami Dolphins are not a NFL
franchise that anybody wants to be rooting for right now.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
They're kind of a mess.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
What a lab they This was the last time they
were good with Dan Marino. I mean we have to
go back to the nineth that's rough.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They have not found a quarterback basically in thirty years
since Dan Marino, and every Miami Dolphins game you go to,
there's a guy in the number thirteen. Dan Marino Jersey.
Still it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But it's also not really the Miami Dolphin's fault because
the Laces were Out.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You know what movie they would never allow to be
made today, and certainly they would never allow it to
be sponsored by the NFL. Ace Ventura speaking of Laces Out,
Oh yeah, that movie I watched with my kids.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
They loved it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But it had Dan Marino in it, It had Don
Shula in it, and the bad guy, which would never
be allowed today spoiler alert, was actually a man pretending
to be a woman. Finkel is Einhorn if you remember
the Einhorn is Finkel if you remember that. Memorable Discoveries
played the soundtrack from the Crying Game When the Revelation Happened,
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which is another movie about a lady with a man surprise,
and that would never ever be allowed to be made
these days, that's for sure. I just loved the idea
of if the NFL were involved in a movie that
was considered in any way. By the way, this was
what ninety four ninety something like that. I mean, it
wasn't that long ago, and I'm surprised they still air it.
(18:18):
You know, they have to give trigger warnings now before
all different sorts of Disney movies. I would imagine their
trigger warnings on this thing, probably many different places, and
many of you are triggered in the New York City
era area. I wanted to play this, Buck, because I
flagged it yesterday and we didn't get to it. We
didn't play very much of Mom Donnie's victory speech because
(18:39):
I didn't want to make all of you throw up.
But I did think this was a really kind of
useful contrast. First, let's go back to nineteen eighty six.
President Ronald Reagan said his nine most terrifying words were
as follows, cut twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I think you all know that I've always felt that
the nine most terrifying words in the English language are
I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Okay, well known Reagan line. Here is what Mamdannie said
last night, which is a direct repudiation of that iconic
Ronald Reagan line, and it is cut nineteen.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
We will prove that there is no problem too large
for government to solve, and no concern too small for
it to care about.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
This is just like he distilled in essence my worst nightmare.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Let's play that one more time so you guys can
hear it? I mean, because it is a director repudiation
of what Reagan said cut nineteen.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
This is my.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Concern about New York City. Do you think the government
handles anything well? Mamdani says, they want to do everything
for you.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
We will prove that there is no problem too large
for government to solve and no concern too small for
it to care about.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Awful.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I think that I read a big piece in the
New York Times. They had their biographical sketch of Mom
Donnie and his campaign, thousands of words. I read it
this morning. The only thing I can say about Mandannie
is the hope is that he just is going to
abandon trying to deliver on the vast majority of the
things that he claimed he was going to deliver on.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, ives Capinario. That's bad.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I wish I could say something better about how I
think this is likely to go. I also, you're not
going to see the huge outflow from New York uh
and I think that's largely because.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
If COVID didn't drive you out of New York City,
I don't think Mom Danny will.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And now that may be also because people are rooted
there in ways that even if they wanted to leave,
it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
They got their kids in school, their job, their family,
and I get that moving is not as easy as
I happen to be at a place in life where
not only did I want to move, but I had
my then fiance who was also like, let's move to Florida,
and it was all it all felt that it all
came together a lot of people. It's more complicated than that.
This matters though, for the budget of New York City
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because a very small percent. It really actually mirrors the
national tax reality, which is that one percent of New
Yorkers pay fifty percent of the taxes. And you can
break it down even further point zero one percent of
New Yorkers pay a shockingly large I don't know what
(21:29):
the figure is, but a shockingly large amount of New
York City's taxes. So it's not just the high earners,
it's really the ultra high earners. And so all the
complaining about millionaires and billionaires that Bernie Sanders and others do.
Without their earnings two tax you can't have the socialism
(21:50):
that these people are advocating for.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So there we have it.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Man, they're gonna learn I think they're gonna learn the
hard way about New York or about Mam Donnie rather
in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
This was also interesting. This has cut seventeen.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
He very clearly from his victory speech here made this
about Trump play seventeen.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
how to defeat him, it is the city that gave
rise to him. And if there is any way to
terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions
that allowed him to accumulate power.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
This is not only how we.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Stopped Trump, it's how we stop the next one. So,
Donald Trump, since I know you're watching.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I have four words for you.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Turn the volume up.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
This will all look very funny in retrospect when this
guy has made a complete mess of New York and
is a joke and everyone realizes that he has no
idea what he's doing. Because that's what's happened in every
every city that elects some super progressive, you end up
with someone like who's the mayor Frey who just won
and again barely Minneapolili.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, the guy was crying at the casket. He's in tears.
The casket of George Floyd.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
The guy is such a such an absolute clown. Portland,
San Francisco, Chicago, all the all these very progressive mayors
are disasters.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
They can't point to.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
One who's a real lefty and say, well, look at
what a great look at how awesome that city is going.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, they always ruin it. So he's going to make.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
A mess of things as well. But I think it's
worth noting that he's just the mayor of a city,
and he somehow made this for his audience at least
about Trump and the fantasyland stuff too, about a despot.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know, you wouldn't have crowds of people cheering.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
For you, you a little twerp if he was really
a despot and they were all scared of what the
evil king would do to you, like they just live
in a fantasy land.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
The whole thing is make believe.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How about Schumer getting asked who he voted for and
not giving an answer.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I love that's classic.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
The juck Schumer is.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I mean, if you just step back and don't overthink it,
but you just take a step back and think about
how desperate he must be every day. He's what seventy
five or whatever, the heck he is. He should be
just comfortably becoming a grandpa. His time has passed. He
has no resonance at all with his current party, and
(24:41):
he basically just tries to avoid being noticed all the time,
despite the fact that he's sent it minority leader. And
I really think he lives in constant fear that AOC
is going to decide that she's gonna primary him, because
he'll get smoked in the primary and his political career
will be over.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
AC's going to run for president, I might add, and
she's going to be I think a top contender for
the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I don't think she will win the nomination, but you can.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Just see how we've all you and I agree here
Newsom at the top of the ticket, AOC as the VP,
but she's going to make her own run, and it's
because she represents the real vanguard of the Democrat Party today.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
The best option that Chuck Schumer has is actually that AOC.
The best option is that she doesn't want his job,
that she thinks his job is not significant enough, so
she's going for the big prize. Well to the Team
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Speaker 1 (25:51):
I know that w R listeners in New York City
have been unhappy with me because I told you all
that we were going to see an absolute destruction of
Curtis Liwa, and that occurred, and that Mom Donnie was
gonna win unless he was going head to head with
only one person, even if it was the awful Andrew Cuomo.
But those of you who have been listening for a
(26:13):
while will remember that I said there was a shining
better day to come for New Yorkers even if Mom
Donnie won, and I said because I really do think
it will open the door to winning a more significant office,
which is the governorship, and the governorship of New York
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with the awful Kathy Hokel in office, who basically decapitated
Andrew Cuomo over this sexual harassment scandal that wasn't actually
in the grand scheme of things that bad. I mean,
what Cuomo did during COVID was infinitely worse than any
of the allegations against him relating to sexual harassment. So
(26:56):
now we have the awful Hathy Hochl as governor, maybe
the worst govern in America. Which is obviously JB. Pritzker,
Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom. There's a lot of people I
think we could toss out there and say are in
that mix. But this morning on Fox and Friends, I
don't think it's coincidental on her timing. Elie Stephonic, former
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New York Congressman. She would have been the ambassador to
the UN, but she decided to go back to Congress
to help because the majority was not very substantial there.
She has announced that she is running for governor to
make New York affordable and safe. She did that this morning, Buck,
this was a positive Let's listen, cut one.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I'm running for governor to make New York affordable and safe.
We have seen decades of single party rule led by Democrats,
and Kathy Hochl is the worst governor in America. New
York is the most unaffordable state of the nation, with
the highest taxes, the highest energy bills, the highest utility bills.
We also have a crime crisis because Kathy Hochel has
brought us failed bail reform and has embraced the defund
(27:56):
the police. Democrats and after this week Ainsley, when we
saw a raging anti semi prohamas communist who wants to
raise taxes, and frankly, he barely won the majority of
New York City voters. Kathy Holkle endorsed him and bent
the niche she has failed New Yorkers.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I think that's right.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And so if you are a frustrated New York voter
right now, if you are a New York City area resident,
and you are thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, this
is awful. Next year the state gets the opportunity to
punch back and react to what happened in New York City.
And I do think that Alice Stefanic would be an
incredible choice for New York. She is infinitely better than
(28:39):
Kathy Hochel. She's gonna be fighting an uphill battle, but
oftentimes election cycle swing from one direction to another, and
electing a communist in New York City maybe you want
to elect then a decently reasonable, rational person to be governor.
So I wanted to start with that buck because I
(29:00):
wanted to start with at least some positivity after a
tough week.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
The positivity is I do think this helps at least
Stefanic a great deal.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That mom Donnie won.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
It would be so nice for the Empire state to
return to a place of sanity. You're never going to
get Texas or Florida policies in New York, although wouldn't
that be nice. But you will be able to, I think,
have a very close contest in the next governor's race
because one Hokl is terrible and two Stefanic is a
(29:32):
pretty talented and solid choice to run on the Republican side,
So that that is good. And also to your point
about how this has been a tough week. We lost
races we were supposed to lose. Yep, there was no
big shock or surprise at all, and that's just the
way it's going to go sometimes. So we dust ourselves off,
we move forward. Remember Trump is still in charge, He's
(29:53):
still doing great things. And one of them is just
pointing out this has cut three Clay that Nancy Pelosi's
retirement is perhaps the greatest act of patriotism she has
ever she has ever made. Play three.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
I think she's an evil woman. I'm glad she's retiring.
I think she did the country a great service by retiring.
I think she was a tremendous liability for the country.
I think she was an evil woman who did a
poor job to costs the country a lot in damages
and in reputation. I thought she was terrible, thank you
(30:30):
very much.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I like that he's just letting him rip. Look, she's retiring.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
He's not at a at a at a situation here
where he has to say nice things, and he's not
going to say nice things because those would be untrue.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I think Nancy.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Pelosi has been deeply destructive to the country, and I
think it'll be a better place without her wielding the
iron fist of Pelosi over the Democrats in the House.
So let's see the Democrats really are without Pelosi running
cover and and keeping them from being completely insane in
public before elections.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I do think it has to really gall Nancy Pelosi
that she had to step down as Trump is at
his most descendant power.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's kind of a you know, chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
If I were Trump advisor there, I would say, you
know what, I love that Nancy Pelosi recognized that it's
time for her to step down, and I couldn't think
it's better for the country that she's leaving the fight
right as she recognizes that I've won all the battles.
I wish Nancy well in retirement, and the biggest loss
(31:40):
we're going to have with Nancy is I've been trying
to figure out how to be as good of an
investor as her.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't know what we're all going to do without
having the.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Nancy Pelosi stock tracker out there to make us all rich.
She's the Warren Buffett of Congress and really kind of gigger.
But I think Trump genuinely detests her, So that came
across in certainly the answer that he gave in that
press conference yesterday. They're also continuing to battle, by the way,
(32:11):
on the government shutdown, and we'll see, Buck. My thought
is that when people get frustrated at airports, then it's Democrats,
it's Republicans, it's independents. A lot of people will put
up with political shenanigans until it starts directly impacting their
day to day existence. And for those of us who travel,
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and those of us who are trying to pick people
up at airports, and those of us who were just
trying to get around the country, this thing. Can you imagine, Buck,
if this thing extended for another few weeks and we
moved into the Thanksgiving travel season. That would be absolutely bonkers.
It's the most difficult time of year to be traveling anyway,
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and then you're going to layer it on top of
people not getting paid and all of the chaos. And really,
the Democrat objectives here have always been very difficult to
explain in a succinct fashion. And they're the ones shutting
down the government. And I feel like they got their
no Kings protests, they got their election wins in New
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Jersey and Virginia. There's zero doubt that Virginia was aided
because there's so many federal employees by the fact that
the government shut down happened. Now, let's go ahead and
just open the government back up. And in fact, he's
the same guy. This is exactly what John Fetterman said.
Buck play cut seven World.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Kitchens feeding as government workers were in my neighborhood in
Navy Yard. I mean, it's really impacting these folks. It's like,
you know, we've all been paid, but all these workers
haven't been paid. The Capitol police that are protecting here
haven't been paid. Our military, Why that's not controversial. Pay
our military, pay all these folks, and I'll make sure
(33:56):
everyone's fed. Now, why would we put ourselves in that
situation at this point? You know, we've had the election.
Now we can all reopen and I'll find a way forward.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Now, this is kind of crazy, Buck, when you really
break it all down, that maybe the thing that we
were most wrong on on the show in four years,
aside from the Red Wave twenty twenty two, I never
would have ever believed having watched the twenty twenty two
Senate campaigns, I never would have believed that John Fetterman
(34:26):
would end up one of the most irrational, reasonable, efficient,
and effective senators when it comes to just analyzing basic
things like this. Would you have ever bought in, like
if we went back in time to when he was
engaged in the debate, when he was running against doctor Oz,
I never would have ever believed that this could be
(34:47):
a situation where Fetterman were lauding and saying, Hey, this
guy is actually one of the best troop tellers on
Capitol Hill. But I mean, everything he just said was
eminently reasonable, not particularly early part is in and rational
And I can't believe I'm saying this, but we need
five or six more John Fetterman's in order to get
(35:08):
the country back up and running and get the government open.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
What are the Democrats really achieving with all the Well,
that's the question. That's the thing that we're gonna have
to look back on when this eventually ends.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
What have they gotten.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
I do not think Republicans can give them what they want,
because then you've said a precedent. I might add, the
minority Party can say I just want billions of dollars
that have nothing to do with the actual funding of
the government, or else I'm gonna take my ball and
go home, or else I'm I'm going to stop things
from happening in DC.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You can't negotiate with terrorists, my friends. This is congressional terrorism,
so to speak. This is not playing by the pre
established rules. So eventually you're gonna have to just see
who's got the grit, who stays together as a as
a caucus, and I'm I'm hopeful Republicans stay with it.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I do think the one thing Trump keeps saying, hey,
we need the filibuster. You know, they've moderated the filibuster
on ending the filibuster. They've moderated the filibuster on a
great number of different aspects. To me, there is a
decent argument to be made, and I think our friend
Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin has made this argument publicly
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for some time, and in fact, if he's listening, he's
welcome to call in and make it better than I'm
about to make it. But can we just do away
with the ability to shut down the government and require
there be sixty votes to reopen it? That doesn't seem
like the filibuster for many things makes sense. Should we
have a filibuster when it comes to whether you can
(36:45):
add Supreme Court justices or add senators from New Jersey,
senators from.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
You can't have a minority of the Senate say sorry,
no government business till I get what I want.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
That would seem like a solution. And look, Republicans may
be frustrate by that somewhere down the line, but the
majority party should be able to keep the government open.
That seems very basic to me, and so you know,
I would love to hear Senator Johnson explain exactly that perspective.
(37:16):
But it seems like a reasonable middle ground that doesn't
require eliminating the entirety of the filibuster and instead would
just allow government to be open so that we can
all be able to take airplane flights safely, and so
that the soldiers can get paid, and so we make
sure that a lot of people out there who are
(37:38):
doing government jobs like air traffic controllers aren't getting paychecks
showing that they earned zero dollars despite the fact that
they've been working crazy hours
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