August 24, 2025 • 29 mins
Clay and Buck analyze a major New York Times article highlighting a dramatic decline in Democratic voter registration across 30 states, with Republicans gaining over 4.5 million voters between 2020 and 2024. They emphasize that this trend spans battleground states, deep-blue strongholds, and red states alike, signaling a nationwide political realignment. Key states like Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania are spotlighted as examples of this shift, with Nevada experiencing one of the steepest drops in Democratic support. A critique of Democratic leadership, with Clay and Buck asserting that the party has failed to adapt post-2024 and is instead doubling down on unpopular policies. They suggest that President Trump’s political instincts and messaging have become more refined, helping him consolidate support across key demographics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. Now, this
is one of those days where it pays off to
be me, where you start off your morning with a
nice crocket coffee, sitting down in front of the newspaper
selection opening it up, usually the New York Times, not
exactly renowned for its positive stories relating to the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Can I just say, drinking Crockett Clay is like putting
on the leather bib before you get the X ray
at the dentist. Like if you're drinking Crockett, the communist
New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And by the way, I just want I do it
so you don't have to. This is me taking this time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It lead, not leather, sorry, leather, lead bib led bib.
I was thinking what does the leather do? But I
was the leather with the Davy Crockett connection. I thought
I might be missing something thing. I do it so
most of you do not have to.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But this is a headline in New York Times today,
and I'm looking at what the headline is in the
digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline.
Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing read alert what
the voter registration data shows? Subheading and there's a big
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graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support
beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is
a big article. This is the feature for the New
York Times. And listen to this open Buck, you don't
hear it opens like these. And I thought it was
interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an
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entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, Yeah, Clay
and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and
basically write about everything on crime, and maybe we should
have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's
basically what the New York Times said in their editorial.
Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long
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before they even go to the polls. Of the thirty
states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost
ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four elections, often by a lot
that four year swing towards Republicans adds up to four
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point five million voters, a deep political hole that could
take years for Democrats to climb out from. And then, Buck,
there is a graphic showing you Democrats losing ground in
all thirty states while Republicans are gaining ground. And and again,
one more paragraph here to contextualize, so you know what
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Democrats are reading this morning. The stampede away from the
Democrat Party is occurring in battleground states, the bluest states
and the reddest states too, according to voter registration data
analyzed by the New York Times, and the data comes
from a non part isan data factory. So this is
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interesting when you think about Buck, what is going on
in the larger country. I feel like I've seen it
for a while because the Democrat Party, it's basically an
insult to call someone a Democrat if you're a young man.
We made jokes about this when I fraternities. Instead of
making jokes about your mom with the banners outside of
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the house this fall, we're saying their opponents vote Democrat.
The culture has shifted in a major way.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, Now, if you're at the frat house and some
guy swings and misses. You say, you swing that with
football bat like a Democrat. It's not good. It's not good. Yeah,
and this whole article to look the data in this
I'm gonna tell you this right now. This article is
a joy. It is a joy to read. I read
it more than once, that's how much. And this is
a New York Times, a big piece from the New
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York Times. This is injected straight into my veins. Take
this data and put it right into the heart of
the American populace. This is great stuff. Some of the
things I pulled from this in the specifics, the long
and the short of it, as you laid out, is
party registration, which Democrats are used to having an advantage.
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And one of the reasons why they didn't really detail
this in the article is Democrats have been running this
voter registration industrial complex that is a non that they
use nonprofits, so tax advantaged here. Okay, they're using nonprofits
in order to get people to sign up and vote,
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but they do it in a way that they know
they're going to get more Demomocrats, right, So it's oh,
we're just to get out the vote effort, right, And
you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff,
but it's always wink wink, we're going to do this
in you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles,
like they're doing it in places where they figure we're
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going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well, the
problem is now they can't count play on just a
blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're going
after let's say Latino voters. They can't count on it
benefiting Democrats, so they're going to hold on a second,
our scam isn't working the way that it used to.
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Miami Dade County, for example, the number of active Republican
voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the Republican nominee.
As recently as November twenty twenty, my home county of
Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred thousand in
one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah, there
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are you know, most counties don't even have, you know,
the two hundred thousand voters. I mean, you see this
North Carolina state record show the Democrat advantage. There was
four hundred thousand in twenty twenty, it's now basically more
or less a time. Then they've got seventeen thousand voters.
I mean that's like not not going to make a
huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for
(06:28):
Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it
is right, there's a four alarm fire. Five alarm fire.
We got a lot of firefighters. You guys can write
it in and tell I think it's five alarm, right,
I think it's five alarm right. I think that's a
big scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire
for Democrats. For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying
all of this. This is fantastic and it goes to
everything we talk about, as you said, the anti masculine,
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anti white misjudging, the Latino misjudging, the young black male vote.
I mean, they they are in free fall. And the
great thing is clay there's no signs of its stopping.
It just keeps getting worse, and they won't change their messaging.
They keep pushing for let's have you know two hundred
pound guys playing on the women's athletics team in high school.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, And I do think this is so By the way,
one bit of news on this thirty states, you might
be saying, okay, what happened in the other twenty states.
The other twenty states don't have party official registration. So
in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk in
on a primary and pick which side you want to
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vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some places
have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty states
do not, so they only have a thirty state data set.
But this, to me, buck it corresponds with all fifty
states moved redder. If all thirty states are hemorrhaging Democrats
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such that the New York Times is writing about it
and adding Republicans, it is a sign of a profound
cultural shift. And I think the numbers are actually gonna
get worse. And this is why we had this conversation.
In the wake of losing in twenty twenty four, Democrats
had a real choice. Do we look ourselves in the
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mirror and say, boy, voters by and large rejected us,
or do they say this is just a sign that
our message is not getting through. Those are the only
two paths, right. The first one is hard because it
requires you to say, boy, this is on us. The
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second one you put it on the voters. I think
we've gotten a result so far, six months after Trump won,
Democrats have decided their message just didn't get through, and
they have, as a result, doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on crazy.
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And they're saying saying, well, they're ignoring the fact that
Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact that voters, I
believe heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the arguments being made
by the Democrat Party and overwhelmingly chose the Republican Party instead.
And here's what I think is particularly ominous, Buck, I
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think there are two things that are particularly ominous about
this data. One, the two most Republican groups in the
twenty twenty four election were men under thirty and men
over sixty five. I bet that has never happened in
the history of this country. And I think a lot
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of people are still not recognizing it, which means that
the data, as kids are getting younger, instead of working
in Democrat favor, is actually working against them. And I'll
come into the Travis Holts household and give you an
example on this. My fourteen year old blew my mind,
because I'm I can't that I'm going to have two
grown adult sons by the next election. He told me
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right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all my friends cannot
wait to be eighteen so we can vote against Democrats
in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen year old boys
that will be eighteen. This is right now, rising ninth graders,
and there's a lot of these kids. They are overwhelmingly
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indexing Republican, just like their older brothers did, just like
is happening out there. So I think the numbers are
getting worse. That's point one for younger two. And this
is really transformative. And I know a lot of you
out there are part of this group. Asian, Hispanic and
Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican side because
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culturally they are more male than they are Democrat and
that men are saying we're done with the craziness. So
I think both of those things are huge, not only now,
but looking for.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And just from a pure power perspective, the general belief
is that after a presidential election, especially a tightly contested
hotly contested one, oh Republicans or rather the party in power,
Republicans in this case will get smacked down in the midterms,
and just also the overall political trend, because when you're
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in power, it's easy for people to say you're not
doing a good enough job of this, and you messed
that up, and you know, to be the political complainers.
Tends to work, right that the opposition party gets to
say you're not delivering. And we've gotten used to that
as our framework for politics in this country, certainly at
the national level. Here's the and let me add that
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happened in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Going into that twenty
eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered. They hadn't built
the wall, they hadn't done this and that, and they
were able to get substantial gains in twenty eighteen in
the House, and the Democrats were really fired up. Obviously
about twenty twenty. You could tell already by that midterm
Clay that's not happening this time. And this is what
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I think is so concerning to the Democrats and so
amazing for the rest of us, is that they're not
seeing the general the general prevailing trends post this election
are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back Democrats
are going to counterattack here. It's getting worse for them. Yes,
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Trump's been president for seven months and things are getting
better for Trump and worse for Democrats right away. In
all the numbers and all the metrics that they can see.
I mean, here's one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada,
North Carolina, Pennsylvania. Democrats are losing support in all of
those states and continuing to bleed support based on voter
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register member not all states have voter registration. What is it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's like, uh, thirty thirty out of thirty out of fifty,
so I'm not I'm not anything my state, so.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Twenty do not thirty two Based on those thirty states,
though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
really important states, Democrats are still losing support when it
comes to voter registration in those places. And they're also
losing support when you look at voter switches, people that
were Democrats and come to Republican side or Republicans who
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go in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the
Democrat Party. I don't know how this article could be
worse for Democrats right now quite there was not a
single silver lining anywhere anywhere, full stop. It was a
total It was a delicious nightmare for them. I loved everything.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
By the way, one state that I think is not
getting enough attention that is emblematic of this, maybe more
than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the steepest percentage
point plunge of any state other than West Virginia. West
Virginia is pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the
Republican Party. I think there's an argument that Nevada is
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really teed up to become rock ribbed red.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well. I have a heary on West Virginia. Actually, let
me come back into that. I have a theory. I
think that West Virginia data is much more important even
than the article suggests.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
The New York Times is saying, hey, this is this
is a mess for you guys. And one of the
I would say, big issues associated with this going forward
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I wanted to come back to it is Democrats are
unwilling to recognize that their message was heard and basically
universally rejected by voters in all fifty states. So my
question for you, Buck is now that let me say this,
that doesn't mean that Democrats may not win in Virginia,
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doesn't mean that Democrats may not win in New Jersey.
Doesn't even mean next year Democrats might not have a
chance to take back the House. Right, the trend lines
can all be moving against them, and turnout can still
be significant. But I wanted to hit this because I
think it's so important. For a long time you heard, oh,
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turnout favors democrats, turnout favors Democrats. How many times have
you guys heard that the data on the twenty twenty
four election actually shows if every eligible American had voted,
Trump would have won by more. Let me repeat that
because I think it has not come through Trump's margin
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and the popular vote would have become more substantial if
everybody who didn't vote actually had gone out and voted well.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And the talking point about if everyone voted, Democrats would
win by more this was a little bit like their
selective love of the popular vote, particularly in the Bush
Gore contest and then Hillary Trump, which is, we know
that's not the contest you're running, so it doesn't matter, right.
I mean, if if you're playing first one to twenty one.
(16:12):
You can't say, well, the ten minute quarter has ended,
so I win. Like, you've got to set the rules
and then you've got to see where things go. But
they say this, and they've been telling themselves this for
a long time, and I think because of the dominance
that they had in the broad spectrum legacy media, they
were able to convince themselves of this. And really, with COVID,
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you got to see. This is why I think COVID
was such an important moment for the country. I mean,
I still think about it. I'm still angry about it,
by the way, legitimately get I get ticked off when
I think about things that happened during COVID that Democrats
did to us, and then a lot of Republicans were
too cowardly to stop. I might add, but that was
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the Democrat Party, unl unrestrained. That was what they really are,
which is, you shut up, we're gonna lie to you,
We're gonna kick you off the internet. We're gonna use
government force to lock you in your homes. We're gonna
use government force to shut down your We're gonna do
all these things, and we're gonna be unrepentant about it
when it all has shown that it was wrong, unnecessary,
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and just destructive. And then we're gonna keep telling you, well,
you know, you still have to say that a man
can become a woman. But then we're gonna keep telling
you still have to say that unrestricted, open borders aren't
a bad thing for the country, or for any country
for that matter. They decided that they were going to
go for it and put themselves in a position where
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they could dictate what reality was, and they were wrong.
And now they're seeing the pushback, the counter attack, and
everything that needs to happen is happening.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think two things tie in with this too. One
I think Trump has become a much more sophisticated politician.
I think that his group that surrounds him, his aids,
his cabinet, I think they are smarter. I think they
are more reflective of the country and where the country stands.
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And I think Trump has taken advantage of the reflective,
reflexive anti Trump sentiment to actually just start taking positions
that are eighty or ninety percent popular. To see whether
Democrats DC crime is a good example. Men and women
in sports are actually willing to continue to argue against him,
and so far they have been. Here is the question
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that I have for you, Buck, and I also have
this question for everybody writ large out there. If you
are unwilling to acknowledge that everybody's hearing your message and
rejecting it, which is what is happening so far with
the Democrat Party. Is there a truth teller on that
side of the ledger that is going to emerge to
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redefec what the Democrat Party is or do they have
to lose again in order to recognize that their message
is being heard and rejected. Because I'll give you an example, Buck,
some people are going to say, we're just not being
left wing enough. That could be the lesson to some
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of these people from Mom Donnie right it is, Hey, basically,
let's just become communists. That's what has to motivate the base.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
The real Democrat Party has never been tried, yes, basically right?
Or or.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Is someone going to emerge who is somewhat of a
centrist now, Gavin Newsom, ah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Look at you, look at you, this is the go ahead,
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Gavin Newsom has tried to flirt with centrism by saying
never the right thing, but that he hears the right argument.
Remember when he was on with Sean Ryan, he said, right,
what's your voice? Did I hear you?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's like, yeah, it's like I'm hearing. I'm hearing what
you're saying. I'm getting what you're putting down, and the
wind through my hair is speaking to all of us.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm hearing what you're saying. Is an amazing line because
you don't actually say anything like, of course you're unless
you're unless you're deaf. Of course you hear what I say,
it doesn't mean that you actually agree with it. So
that's his line. And you know who's actually making fun
now of Gavin Newsom. This is a guy who I
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think has seen the tea leaves and he will blow
in whatever direction the wind is blowing. Joe Scarborough, who
just last year was telling us this was the best
version of Biden he'd ever seen, now says Gavin Newsom's
a total fake. Listen to this trying to find their
footing and.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's it's it's quite embarrassing, actually, I mean Gavin Newsome,
I mean, have you seen what he's doing online?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And just take a deep breath. Don't try to turn
this ship one hundred and eighty degrees and one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I have a good idea. Instead of trying to make
school Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Talking to the camera about affordability, why try to drag
Muhammad Ali in the ring when you got Chuck Webner,
Sandy Wepner is a bleeder. He's a bleeder.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You want him?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So why are you going I'm long after Donald? No,
you're not. You're not running against Donald Trump. Go is
Tweedledee or tweedledum?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Who is this is a low level boxer? But what
what I think? It's a very low level boxer from like, uh,
somebody look it up. But the Muhammad Ali as Trump
is funny because suddenly Trump is a great politician and
he's a great boxer. In the analogies from He's well,
he has kicked it. He's kicked an old tactician out there.
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He's kicked their asses. I mean they've had they've had
to accept Trump. Trump has kicked their asses. Trump has
completely plowed the Democrat Party Under Clay we didn't even
talk about it because of all the big news with
Russia and all the things going on there.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
MSNBC has had to change its name. This is real, everybody,
This is not the onion. MSNBC is now going to
be called ms now, which honestly sounds like a channel
dedicated to you know, unmarried, middle aged women who drink
a lot of wine and read those novels that are
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you know, by the front register or something at the
grocery store like ms now. I mean, is this about
like women's health? Like what are we talking about? Clay.
He has destroyed CNN. He has destroyed MSNBC. The New
York Times will never gain back Nord, the Washington Post,
whatever credibility that they used to have. He has crushed
the fake media. He has burned their villages, and he
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heard the lamentations of their women. So yes, they have
to accept this. But I have a wild idea for you.
I have a wild idea for you. You ready for
this one? Yeah? Oh yeah, I'm putting on I'm putting
all my Clay Travis at right now. Hey, look at me.
I love sec football and I make wild predictions that
sometimes come true. I'm putting on my Clay had Joe
Scarborough's media career is going nowhere. Joe Scarborough should run
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for president as a Democrat. And I think he sees
Gavin Newsom and I think he's a little jelly and
I think he's considering it. I think he's considering it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't think that this is this is a good
I think this is a good I think this is
a good take. I actually I mean Joe Scarborough used
to be a Republican. He now is redefining himself. He
called out Democrats for being against more police in DC.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He's got the ms now the MSNBC base that likes
him right there on the most popular show other than Madow.
He's obviously in the communication business. Uh. We know that
he has no core belief but that actually might benefit him.
If all the core beliefs of the Democrat Party are wrong,
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it's easier for someone with outcore beliefs to take over
the party.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He's perfect, actually, and this is why Joe Biden was
perfect for Democrats in twenty twenty. Because he was old,
people were scared, he didn't have to show up for anything,
and he was able to be the He was the
pretext of the old Democrat Party still exists. Now we
know what happened. He was a dementia puppet and you
(24:23):
got AOC policies with a Joe Biden facade, right, and
it was truly a facade because it was like, you know,
the marionette, like hey here I am everybody, I'm talking
And so that was what worked for them. Then what
would work for them now is a slick, grinning Gavin
Newsom or Joe Scarborough type, soulless but smooth individual who
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can who is good on the stump, who knows how
to debate, who knows how to do the the oleaginist
thing up there word of the day. And I think
I think Scarborough and actually Gavin, I think Scarborough and
Newsom are the same creature. That's what I release. And
I think Gavin Newsom and Joe Scarborough are such egomaniacs
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that they have what it takes to say absolutely anything
to win a Democrat primary. That's what I That's what
that's where I see it. And and you know, this
would be an opportunity. I'm telling you he would, it
would get he would do very well in a primary.
Remember MSNBC, there's a they have a strong minority and
a strong female black viewership for from within the you know,
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the the news cohorts, the news industry and so they
they know him, they would like him, they would support him.
I mean, I think I think Scarborough running is not
as as not a. People always say on the right
that Tucker is gonna run, which I don't think that's
gonna happen. I think Tucker likes what he's doing now.
But I the Scarborough thing, you don't think it's crazy
(25:52):
put on and you agree, Well, I've been arguing for
some time that it might take somebody out outside of
the Democrat Party, and I think in the wake of
Trump's success there will be I think multiple non traditional
politicians who run on the Democrat need. You need star
power to win a Democrat primary. Now, it used you
(26:17):
can't replicate the brand creation of other Democrats that have
You know, Biden, the guy's been in politics longer than
you and I have been alive, and so that name
recognition is effectively similar to the you know, the celebrity status. Right.
You're not going to get somebody who comes up now
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who doesn't have star power and wins a Democrat primary.
This is again why I think AOC is certainly a
vice president in waiting, and I think that that's where
the Democrats are heading Well.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
The reason I like the Scarborough angle right the outsider,
is this is my art, this is my assertion. In
order to win, a Democrat has to put the left
wing in basically time out. They have to lecture the
left wing and say this party is not good. This
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party doesn't exist just for trans people. This party doesn't
exist just for people who believe that America is fundamentally
awful and that American history is something to be ashamed of.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I think Joe Scarborough or Gavin Newsom, I mean this
is they're the same, They're the same lane for the Democrats. Right,
a guy with who's smooth on the air, he's got
good hair, and it's gonna say whatever he has to
say to make everybody play ball long enough that he
can actually get powered. And I think that the case
from the Newsom Scarborough side of things is I don't
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care what you blue haired you know, communist freaks. Yes, actually,
and again we mean purple hair, not old people like
people that dye their hair. But I don't care what
you communist freaks want. If you don't let me run
this show a little bit. Trump and mag are just
going to keep stealing your lunch for the next decade.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, I think that's right. I also think some of
the Democrats are too much of cowards to try to
put what is a great phrase from Dirty Dancing, nobody
puts baby in the corner. You got to put crazy
in the corner. And you got to say, like I'm
shutting the door on you loans, you can show up
and vote whatever. You're not going to drive the party anymore.
I think a lot of professional politicians are afraid of
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that because they're afraid of that party element coming back,
the progressive wing in power. Whereas Joe Scarborough, what the
heck does he care. He's got a television contract, he's
got money. I don't know that Gavin Newsom is willing
to truly burn the ships because if it doesn't work
in twenty eight, he might need those people in thirty two.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I just one last thing. I know, we got to
get to a break. But just Clay, you know this,
you know this beast, you know this animal very well,
the media personality who we've all seen this plaguing out
over decades. When you're at that stage at Scarborough's at
the guy's worth millions and millions of tens of millions
of dollars probably at this point, he's a very wealthy guy. Okay,
he's been doing TV a long time. His relevance is
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dropping immensely by being at MSNBC. How do you become
relevant again? Money doesn't really matter to you at that
point very much. How do you become relevant again? You run?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
And also you've been embarrassed because you were the guy
who said Biden was at his best. You need to
change the story, and you have to do something radical.
Sometimes that's.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Because because all you care, it's all ego driven, and
to change the story, I mean, look at Look look
at Trump. Obama made fun of Trump at a dinner
and the world changed.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yes, So you know, I think that's right. I don't.
I think the Scarborough idea is actually a good one.
I think there will be other people, Dwayne the Rock, Johnson,
Mark Cuban, and I'm not signing on to any of
these guys, but I think a lot of people will
believe that they can be the Democrat version of Trump.
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. Now, this
is one of those days where it pays off to
be me, where you start off your morning with a
nice crocket coffee, sitting down in front of the newspaper
selection opening it up, usually the New York Times, not
exactly renowned for its positive stories relating to the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Can I just say, drinking Crockett Clay is like putting
on the leather bib before you get the X ray
at the dentist. Like if you're drinking Crockett, the communist
New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And by the way, I just want I do it
so you don't have to. This is me taking this time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It lead, not leather, sorry, leather, lead bib led bib.
I was thinking what does the leather do? But I
was the leather with the Davy Crockett connection. I thought
I might be missing something thing. I do it so
most of you do not have to.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But this is a headline in New York Times today,
and I'm looking at what the headline is in the
digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline.
Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing read alert what
the voter registration data shows? Subheading and there's a big
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graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support
beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is
a big article. This is the feature for the New
York Times. And listen to this open Buck, you don't
hear it opens like these. And I thought it was
interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an
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entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, Yeah, Clay
and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and
basically write about everything on crime, and maybe we should
have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's
basically what the New York Times said in their editorial.
Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long
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before they even go to the polls. Of the thirty
states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost
ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four elections, often by a lot
that four year swing towards Republicans adds up to four
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point five million voters, a deep political hole that could
take years for Democrats to climb out from. And then, Buck,
there is a graphic showing you Democrats losing ground in
all thirty states while Republicans are gaining ground. And and again,
one more paragraph here to contextualize, so you know what
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Democrats are reading this morning. The stampede away from the
Democrat Party is occurring in battleground states, the bluest states
and the reddest states too, according to voter registration data
analyzed by the New York Times, and the data comes
from a non part isan data factory. So this is
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interesting when you think about Buck, what is going on
in the larger country. I feel like I've seen it
for a while because the Democrat Party, it's basically an
insult to call someone a Democrat if you're a young man.
We made jokes about this when I fraternities. Instead of
making jokes about your mom with the banners outside of
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the house this fall, we're saying their opponents vote Democrat.
The culture has shifted in a major way.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, Now, if you're at the frat house and some
guy swings and misses. You say, you swing that with
football bat like a Democrat. It's not good. It's not good. Yeah,
and this whole article to look the data in this
I'm gonna tell you this right now. This article is
a joy. It is a joy to read. I read
it more than once, that's how much. And this is
a New York Times, a big piece from the New
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York Times. This is injected straight into my veins. Take
this data and put it right into the heart of
the American populace. This is great stuff. Some of the
things I pulled from this in the specifics, the long
and the short of it, as you laid out, is
party registration, which Democrats are used to having an advantage.
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And one of the reasons why they didn't really detail
this in the article is Democrats have been running this
voter registration industrial complex that is a non that they
use nonprofits, so tax advantaged here. Okay, they're using nonprofits
in order to get people to sign up and vote,
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but they do it in a way that they know
they're going to get more Demomocrats, right, So it's oh,
we're just to get out the vote effort, right, And
you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff,
but it's always wink wink, we're going to do this
in you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles,
like they're doing it in places where they figure we're
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going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well, the
problem is now they can't count play on just a
blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're going
after let's say Latino voters. They can't count on it
benefiting Democrats, so they're going to hold on a second,
our scam isn't working the way that it used to.
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Miami Dade County, for example, the number of active Republican
voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the Republican nominee.
As recently as November twenty twenty, my home county of
Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred thousand in
one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah, there
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are you know, most counties don't even have, you know,
the two hundred thousand voters. I mean, you see this
North Carolina state record show the Democrat advantage. There was
four hundred thousand in twenty twenty, it's now basically more
or less a time. Then they've got seventeen thousand voters.
I mean that's like not not going to make a
huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for
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Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it
is right, there's a four alarm fire. Five alarm fire.
We got a lot of firefighters. You guys can write
it in and tell I think it's five alarm, right,
I think it's five alarm right. I think that's a
big scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire
for Democrats. For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying
all of this. This is fantastic and it goes to
everything we talk about, as you said, the anti masculine,
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anti white misjudging, the Latino misjudging, the young black male vote.
I mean, they they are in free fall. And the
great thing is clay there's no signs of its stopping.
It just keeps getting worse, and they won't change their messaging.
They keep pushing for let's have you know two hundred
pound guys playing on the women's athletics team in high school.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, And I do think this is so By the way,
one bit of news on this thirty states, you might
be saying, okay, what happened in the other twenty states.
The other twenty states don't have party official registration. So
in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk in
on a primary and pick which side you want to
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vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some places
have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty states
do not, so they only have a thirty state data set.
But this, to me, buck it corresponds with all fifty
states moved redder. If all thirty states are hemorrhaging Democrats
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such that the New York Times is writing about it
and adding Republicans, it is a sign of a profound
cultural shift. And I think the numbers are actually gonna
get worse. And this is why we had this conversation.
In the wake of losing in twenty twenty four, Democrats
had a real choice. Do we look ourselves in the
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mirror and say, boy, voters by and large rejected us,
or do they say this is just a sign that
our message is not getting through. Those are the only
two paths, right. The first one is hard because it
requires you to say, boy, this is on us. The
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second one you put it on the voters. I think
we've gotten a result so far, six months after Trump won,
Democrats have decided their message just didn't get through, and
they have, as a result, doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on crazy.
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And they're saying saying, well, they're ignoring the fact that
Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact that voters, I
believe heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the arguments being made
by the Democrat Party and overwhelmingly chose the Republican Party instead.
And here's what I think is particularly ominous, Buck, I
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think there are two things that are particularly ominous about
this data. One, the two most Republican groups in the
twenty twenty four election were men under thirty and men
over sixty five. I bet that has never happened in
the history of this country. And I think a lot
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of people are still not recognizing it, which means that
the data, as kids are getting younger, instead of working
in Democrat favor, is actually working against them. And I'll
come into the Travis Holts household and give you an
example on this. My fourteen year old blew my mind,
because I'm I can't that I'm going to have two
grown adult sons by the next election. He told me
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right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all my friends cannot
wait to be eighteen so we can vote against Democrats
in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen year old boys
that will be eighteen. This is right now, rising ninth graders,
and there's a lot of these kids. They are overwhelmingly
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indexing Republican, just like their older brothers did, just like
is happening out there. So I think the numbers are
getting worse. That's point one for younger two. And this
is really transformative. And I know a lot of you
out there are part of this group. Asian, Hispanic and
Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican side because
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culturally they are more male than they are Democrat and
that men are saying we're done with the craziness. So
I think both of those things are huge, not only now,
but looking for.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And just from a pure power perspective, the general belief
is that after a presidential election, especially a tightly contested
hotly contested one, oh Republicans or rather the party in power,
Republicans in this case will get smacked down in the midterms,
and just also the overall political trend, because when you're
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in power, it's easy for people to say you're not
doing a good enough job of this, and you messed
that up, and you know, to be the political complainers.
Tends to work, right that the opposition party gets to
say you're not delivering. And we've gotten used to that
as our framework for politics in this country, certainly at
the national level. Here's the and let me add that
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happened in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Going into that twenty
eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered. They hadn't built
the wall, they hadn't done this and that, and they
were able to get substantial gains in twenty eighteen in
the House, and the Democrats were really fired up. Obviously
about twenty twenty. You could tell already by that midterm
Clay that's not happening this time. And this is what
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I think is so concerning to the Democrats and so
amazing for the rest of us, is that they're not
seeing the general the general prevailing trends post this election
are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back Democrats
are going to counterattack here. It's getting worse for them. Yes,
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Trump's been president for seven months and things are getting
better for Trump and worse for Democrats right away. In
all the numbers and all the metrics that they can see.
I mean, here's one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada,
North Carolina, Pennsylvania. Democrats are losing support in all of
those states and continuing to bleed support based on voter
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register member not all states have voter registration. What is it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's like, uh, thirty thirty out of thirty out of fifty,
so I'm not I'm not anything my state, so.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Twenty do not thirty two Based on those thirty states,
though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,
really important states, Democrats are still losing support when it
comes to voter registration in those places. And they're also
losing support when you look at voter switches, people that
were Democrats and come to Republican side or Republicans who
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go in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the
Democrat Party. I don't know how this article could be
worse for Democrats right now quite there was not a
single silver lining anywhere anywhere, full stop. It was a
total It was a delicious nightmare for them. I loved everything.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
By the way, one state that I think is not
getting enough attention that is emblematic of this, maybe more
than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the steepest percentage
point plunge of any state other than West Virginia. West
Virginia is pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the
Republican Party. I think there's an argument that Nevada is
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really teed up to become rock ribbed red.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well. I have a heary on West Virginia. Actually, let
me come back into that. I have a theory. I
think that West Virginia data is much more important even
than the article suggests.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
The New York Times is saying, hey, this is this
is a mess for you guys. And one of the
I would say, big issues associated with this going forward
(14:33):
I wanted to come back to it is Democrats are
unwilling to recognize that their message was heard and basically
universally rejected by voters in all fifty states. So my
question for you, Buck is now that let me say this,
that doesn't mean that Democrats may not win in Virginia,
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doesn't mean that Democrats may not win in New Jersey.
Doesn't even mean next year Democrats might not have a
chance to take back the House. Right, the trend lines
can all be moving against them, and turnout can still
be significant. But I wanted to hit this because I
think it's so important. For a long time you heard, oh,
(15:20):
turnout favors democrats, turnout favors Democrats. How many times have
you guys heard that the data on the twenty twenty
four election actually shows if every eligible American had voted,
Trump would have won by more. Let me repeat that
because I think it has not come through Trump's margin
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and the popular vote would have become more substantial if
everybody who didn't vote actually had gone out and voted well.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And the talking point about if everyone voted, Democrats would
win by more this was a little bit like their
selective love of the popular vote, particularly in the Bush
Gore contest and then Hillary Trump, which is, we know
that's not the contest you're running, so it doesn't matter, right.
I mean, if if you're playing first one to twenty one.
(16:12):
You can't say, well, the ten minute quarter has ended,
so I win. Like, you've got to set the rules
and then you've got to see where things go. But
they say this, and they've been telling themselves this for
a long time, and I think because of the dominance
that they had in the broad spectrum legacy media, they
were able to convince themselves of this. And really, with COVID,
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you got to see. This is why I think COVID
was such an important moment for the country. I mean,
I still think about it. I'm still angry about it,
by the way, legitimately get I get ticked off when
I think about things that happened during COVID that Democrats
did to us, and then a lot of Republicans were
too cowardly to stop. I might add, but that was
(16:57):
the Democrat Party, unl unrestrained. That was what they really are,
which is, you shut up, we're gonna lie to you,
We're gonna kick you off the internet. We're gonna use
government force to lock you in your homes. We're gonna
use government force to shut down your We're gonna do
all these things, and we're gonna be unrepentant about it
when it all has shown that it was wrong, unnecessary,
(17:20):
and just destructive. And then we're gonna keep telling you, well,
you know, you still have to say that a man
can become a woman. But then we're gonna keep telling
you still have to say that unrestricted, open borders aren't
a bad thing for the country, or for any country
for that matter. They decided that they were going to
go for it and put themselves in a position where
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they could dictate what reality was, and they were wrong.
And now they're seeing the pushback, the counter attack, and
everything that needs to happen is happening.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I think two things tie in with this too. One
I think Trump has become a much more sophisticated politician.
I think that his group that surrounds him, his aids,
his cabinet, I think they are smarter. I think they
are more reflective of the country and where the country stands.
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And I think Trump has taken advantage of the reflective,
reflexive anti Trump sentiment to actually just start taking positions
that are eighty or ninety percent popular. To see whether
Democrats DC crime is a good example. Men and women
in sports are actually willing to continue to argue against him,
and so far they have been. Here is the question
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that I have for you, Buck, and I also have
this question for everybody writ large out there. If you
are unwilling to acknowledge that everybody's hearing your message and
rejecting it, which is what is happening so far with
the Democrat Party. Is there a truth teller on that
side of the ledger that is going to emerge to
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redefec what the Democrat Party is or do they have
to lose again in order to recognize that their message
is being heard and rejected. Because I'll give you an example, Buck,
some people are going to say, we're just not being
left wing enough. That could be the lesson to some
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of these people from Mom Donnie right it is, Hey, basically,
let's just become communists. That's what has to motivate the base.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
The real Democrat Party has never been tried, yes, basically right?
Or or.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Is someone going to emerge who is somewhat of a
centrist now, Gavin Newsom, ah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Look at you, look at you, this is the go ahead,
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Gavin Newsom has tried to flirt with centrism by saying
never the right thing, but that he hears the right argument.
Remember when he was on with Sean Ryan, he said, right,
what's your voice? Did I hear you?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's like, yeah, it's like I'm hearing. I'm hearing what
you're saying. I'm getting what you're putting down, and the
wind through my hair is speaking to all of us.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I'm hearing what you're saying. Is an amazing line because
you don't actually say anything like, of course you're unless
you're unless you're deaf. Of course you hear what I say,
it doesn't mean that you actually agree with it. So
that's his line. And you know who's actually making fun
now of Gavin Newsom. This is a guy who I
(20:27):
think has seen the tea leaves and he will blow
in whatever direction the wind is blowing. Joe Scarborough, who
just last year was telling us this was the best
version of Biden he'd ever seen, now says Gavin Newsom's
a total fake. Listen to this trying to find their
footing and.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's it's it's quite embarrassing, actually, I mean Gavin Newsome,
I mean, have you seen what he's doing online?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
And just take a deep breath. Don't try to turn
this ship one hundred and eighty degrees and one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
They don't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I have a good idea. Instead of trying to make
school Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Talking to the camera about affordability, why try to drag
Muhammad Ali in the ring when you got Chuck Webner,
Sandy Wepner is a bleeder. He's a bleeder.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You want him?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So why are you going I'm long after Donald? No,
you're not. You're not running against Donald Trump. Go is
Tweedledee or tweedledum?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Who is this is a low level boxer? But what
what I think? It's a very low level boxer from like, uh,
somebody look it up. But the Muhammad Ali as Trump
is funny because suddenly Trump is a great politician and
he's a great boxer. In the analogies from He's well,
he has kicked it. He's kicked an old tactician out there.
(21:50):
He's kicked their asses. I mean they've had they've had
to accept Trump. Trump has kicked their asses. Trump has
completely plowed the Democrat Party Under Clay we didn't even
talk about it because of all the big news with
Russia and all the things going on there.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
MSNBC has had to change its name. This is real, everybody,
This is not the onion. MSNBC is now going to
be called ms now, which honestly sounds like a channel
dedicated to you know, unmarried, middle aged women who drink
a lot of wine and read those novels that are
(22:25):
you know, by the front register or something at the
grocery store like ms now. I mean, is this about
like women's health? Like what are we talking about? Clay.
He has destroyed CNN. He has destroyed MSNBC. The New
York Times will never gain back Nord, the Washington Post,
whatever credibility that they used to have. He has crushed
the fake media. He has burned their villages, and he
(22:48):
heard the lamentations of their women. So yes, they have
to accept this. But I have a wild idea for you.
I have a wild idea for you. You ready for
this one? Yeah? Oh yeah, I'm putting on I'm putting
all my Clay Travis at right now. Hey, look at me.
I love sec football and I make wild predictions that
sometimes come true. I'm putting on my Clay had Joe
Scarborough's media career is going nowhere. Joe Scarborough should run
(23:10):
for president as a Democrat. And I think he sees
Gavin Newsom and I think he's a little jelly and
I think he's considering it. I think he's considering it.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't think that this is this is a good
I think this is a good I think this is
a good take. I actually I mean Joe Scarborough used
to be a Republican. He now is redefining himself. He
called out Democrats for being against more police in DC.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
He's got the ms now the MSNBC base that likes
him right there on the most popular show other than Madow.
He's obviously in the communication business. Uh. We know that
he has no core belief but that actually might benefit him.
If all the core beliefs of the Democrat Party are wrong,
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it's easier for someone with outcore beliefs to take over
the party.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
He's perfect, actually, and this is why Joe Biden was
perfect for Democrats in twenty twenty. Because he was old,
people were scared, he didn't have to show up for anything,
and he was able to be the He was the
pretext of the old Democrat Party still exists. Now we
know what happened. He was a dementia puppet and you
(24:23):
got AOC policies with a Joe Biden facade, right, and
it was truly a facade because it was like, you know,
the marionette, like hey here I am everybody, I'm talking
And so that was what worked for them. Then what
would work for them now is a slick, grinning Gavin
Newsom or Joe Scarborough type, soulless but smooth individual who
(24:48):
can who is good on the stump, who knows how
to debate, who knows how to do the the oleaginist
thing up there word of the day. And I think
I think Scarborough and actually Gavin, I think Scarborough and
Newsom are the same creature. That's what I release. And
I think Gavin Newsom and Joe Scarborough are such egomaniacs
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that they have what it takes to say absolutely anything
to win a Democrat primary. That's what I That's what
that's where I see it. And and you know, this
would be an opportunity. I'm telling you he would, it
would get he would do very well in a primary.
Remember MSNBC, there's a they have a strong minority and
a strong female black viewership for from within the you know,
(25:30):
the the news cohorts, the news industry and so they
they know him, they would like him, they would support him.
I mean, I think I think Scarborough running is not
as as not a. People always say on the right
that Tucker is gonna run, which I don't think that's
gonna happen. I think Tucker likes what he's doing now.
But I the Scarborough thing, you don't think it's crazy
(25:52):
put on and you agree, Well, I've been arguing for
some time that it might take somebody out outside of
the Democrat Party, and I think in the wake of
Trump's success there will be I think multiple non traditional
politicians who run on the Democrat need. You need star
power to win a Democrat primary. Now, it used you
(26:17):
can't replicate the brand creation of other Democrats that have
You know, Biden, the guy's been in politics longer than
you and I have been alive, and so that name
recognition is effectively similar to the you know, the celebrity status. Right.
You're not going to get somebody who comes up now
(26:38):
who doesn't have star power and wins a Democrat primary.
This is again why I think AOC is certainly a
vice president in waiting, and I think that that's where
the Democrats are heading Well.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
The reason I like the Scarborough angle right the outsider,
is this is my art, this is my assertion. In
order to win, a Democrat has to put the left
wing in basically time out. They have to lecture the
left wing and say this party is not good. This
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party doesn't exist just for trans people. This party doesn't
exist just for people who believe that America is fundamentally
awful and that American history is something to be ashamed of.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I think Joe Scarborough or Gavin Newsom, I mean this
is they're the same, They're the same lane for the Democrats. Right,
a guy with who's smooth on the air, he's got
good hair, and it's gonna say whatever he has to
say to make everybody play ball long enough that he
can actually get powered. And I think that the case
from the Newsom Scarborough side of things is I don't
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care what you blue haired you know, communist freaks. Yes, actually,
and again we mean purple hair, not old people like
people that dye their hair. But I don't care what
you communist freaks want. If you don't let me run
this show a little bit. Trump and mag are just
going to keep stealing your lunch for the next decade.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, I think that's right. I also think some of
the Democrats are too much of cowards to try to
put what is a great phrase from Dirty Dancing, nobody
puts baby in the corner. You got to put crazy
in the corner. And you got to say, like I'm
shutting the door on you loans, you can show up
and vote whatever. You're not going to drive the party anymore.
I think a lot of professional politicians are afraid of
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that because they're afraid of that party element coming back,
the progressive wing in power. Whereas Joe Scarborough, what the
heck does he care. He's got a television contract, he's
got money. I don't know that Gavin Newsom is willing
to truly burn the ships because if it doesn't work
in twenty eight, he might need those people in thirty two.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I just one last thing. I know, we got to
get to a break. But just Clay, you know this,
you know this beast, you know this animal very well,
the media personality who we've all seen this plaguing out
over decades. When you're at that stage at Scarborough's at
the guy's worth millions and millions of tens of millions
of dollars probably at this point, he's a very wealthy guy. Okay,
he's been doing TV a long time. His relevance is
(29:04):
dropping immensely by being at MSNBC. How do you become
relevant again? Money doesn't really matter to you at that
point very much. How do you become relevant again? You run?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
And also you've been embarrassed because you were the guy
who said Biden was at his best. You need to
change the story, and you have to do something radical.
Sometimes that's.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Because because all you care, it's all ego driven, and
to change the story, I mean, look at Look look
at Trump. Obama made fun of Trump at a dinner
and the world changed.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yes, So you know, I think that's right. I don't.
I think the Scarborough idea is actually a good one.
I think there will be other people, Dwayne the Rock, Johnson,
Mark Cuban, and I'm not signing on to any of
these guys, but I think a lot of people will
believe that they can be the Democrat version of Trump.
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