November 2, 2025 • 39 mins
Summary: Trump’s Asia tour, highlighting his meetings with leaders in Japan, South Korea, and potentially North Korea’s Kim Jong-un. Trump’s comments aboard Air Force One spark speculation about a JD Vance–Marco Rubio unity ticket for 2028, with Clay and Buck debating the plausibility of Trump stepping aside while endorsing his successors.
Fentanyl trafficking and praise for the Trump administration’s aggressive military response to drug boats in international waters. Secretary of State Marco Rubio defends the policy, arguing that lethal force is justified against cartels poisoning Americans with counterfeit pills. Clay and Buck applaud the administration’s elite communicators, including Rubio and JD Vance, for articulating complex issues with clarity.
A deep dive into U.S. military strategy in Latin America. Buck discusses the Trump administration’s preparations for potential military strikes against drug trafficking operations in Venezuela. He outlines the deteriorating state of Venezuela’s military and economy under President Nicolás Maduro, describing the country as a failed narco-state. Buck draws parallels to past U.S. counterterrorism actions and positions the strikes as a necessary response to the fentanyl crisis devastating American communities.
Trump’s WH construction projects are for the benefit of future administrations and not vanity endeavors, but the media still melts down while Democrats clutch their pearls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Now, we have great people. I don't have to get
into that, but we have one of them standing right here.
We have JD. Obviously, the vice president is great. I
think Marco is great. I think I'm not sure if
anybody would run against us. I think if they have
a formed the group would be that's up. I really do.
(00:33):
I believe that I would. I would, I would love
to do it, and I have my best numbers. Ever,
it's very terrible. I have my best numbers. See you
read you read it? Am I not really gonna You'll
have to tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, So Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could. I
do think the idea of a JD. Marco ticket unity
from the start is starting to get some momentum. Do
(01:09):
you buy the idea that that duo Marco Rubio obviously
has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside of
the Trump administration right now, primarily Secretary of State JD.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Van's VP.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you buy the idea that those guys might just say, hey,
let's keep the band together and have a unity ticket
and we might not even see that much drama in
twenty twenty eight, that Trump might just say, Hey, these
are my guys.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm not going to run.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, ah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
You buy this?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, because I'm starting to think it's more and
more of a possibility that they just say, hey, we're
a unity ticket, We're Trump three two point oh, three
point oh. However you want to say it, and let's
not have all the drama of this huge fight. Let's
just keep things rolling. What do you think is it
too clean?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It all sounds great and it would be phenomenal in
so many ways. A lot could happen in two and
a half years, my friends, So you know, this is
this is the thing, this is the way we think
the story should go. And that to me means it's
unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.
(02:24):
That's how I view this. Yes, it should go this way,
there is a pathway. But remember I was I was
doing shows play in twenty nineteen. You know, I was
doing the solo Buck shows in twenty nineteen, when I
was saying, guys, the country, things are great, enjoy it.
Trump's kicking ass economy is phenomenal. We're at peace. You know,
things are great, and then boom, a.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in
your apartment in New York City.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
We don't have we don't have to go back to
that trauma every time. You know, it was very difficult.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I still want to see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I mean this. I walked into your apartment.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin Tennessee, just basically like March and
April and maybe a little bit of May. People were like, eh,
you know a little bit, and then it was kind
of over. And then every time I see people, you
some of you guys still have a lot of post
(03:32):
traumatic stress. You la your New York Chicago residents who
really had to go through the chaos and the insanity.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
LA people most a lot of them had yards, more
weather more so.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But I mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle boarders. I mean,
I mean, this was it wouldn't even let them walk on.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The I'm just saying New York turned into it turned
into a prison camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to who experienced the city, anybody who
has ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments
that I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I would have lost my mind. I certainly wouldn't have
been able to stay.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Trump being Trump, by the way, in addition to saying hey,
JD and Marco could be an incredible team, he also
decided to tee off on Jasmine Crockett and he challenged
them to a cognitive test AOC. We're going to talk
about AOC coming after our friend Riley gains here in
a moment. But Trump also challenged AOC and Jasmine Crockett
to a cognitive test. And you'll want to hear this
(04:34):
cut twenty two.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So I can tell you is that we have a
great group of people, which they don't. They have jazz
Been Crockett, a low IQ person.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
They have.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
AOC's low IQ. You give her the IQ tests, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Reed, I took. That's a
very hard They really have to do tests. I guess
at a certain point with the cognitive tests. Let AOC
go against Trump, let Jasmine go against Rum. I know
(05:04):
they get a Jasmine the first couple of questions. There
is a tiger and elephant that you have. You know,
when you get up to about five or six, and
then when you get up to ten and twenty and
twenty five, they couldn't come close to answering any of
those questions.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, he is just you know what's on. You
know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again.
And I think that he does just like to say
that he's gonna run again because it upsets the Libs
so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay, our
jobs will never be as entertaining as they have been
in the Trump era, because he makes you, guys even
(05:40):
remember what it was like back in the days when oh,
everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It was boring
and generally useless and often lies and wrong. In the
Bush era, whatever, you know, people just said stuff. You
know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little spicy
toward the end, as we know, but in general, we
did not have a resident who just says hilarious things
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all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they're showing you
pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test, uh,
But just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again? Because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(06:26):
I I really, I feel like so many people who
have Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an
inability to process tone and context, because I mean, how
could you not laugh at this at the end of
this answer.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Maybe we don't have the ability to pull out.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, they really, I guess at a certain point. But
the cognitive tests, let AOC go against Trump, let Jasmin
go against something I do they get a Jasmin the
first couple of questions, there is a tiger and elephant
that you're in. You know, when you get up to
about five or six, and then when you get up
to ten at twenty at twenty five, they couldn't come
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close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has firebackbuck.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Jasmine Crockett says, I got into college on my own.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Trump didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has
a low IQ cut twenty three.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you, Kaitlin.
Then finally ask him what is his IQ, because he
is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a
low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are low.
And I can guarantee you that whatever score, if he's
taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his qualifies as
low Listen, He's never been known to be at Einstein.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
This is not a guy who.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Got in on merriage when it came to going to college.
This is someone who, but for him being born with
a silver spoon, probably wouldn't have got into anybody's institution,
unlike me. So you know, I am not worried about that,
and I wish people would look at the fact that
you have a president of the United States who consistently
is obsessing over two women of color that are members
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of the House.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
And it's not just Jasmin Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. You know who's really
disappointed by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There are
a lot of people who represent us in Congress and
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in the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.
They're also not great communicators, that is really not ideal.
Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats, Independence
by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great communicators
out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed in
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politics was that he could have the success he had
with no background in politics, because there are a lot
of lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing around
candidly when it comes to arguments and it comes to
the political direction of the country.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The blowing up up the drug book by this administration,
I don't I don't think that the Democrat left was
prepared for how much most Americans. And it comes after
decades now of far too many fentl overdoses. And fentanyl
is different than cocaine. It's different than marijuana. Obviously, it
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is far more dangerous, far more addictive, and far more dangerous.
It's very easy to overdose on fentanyl. And there's a
whole bunch of ways.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And let me just say this too, because I've had
a lot of people out there, a lot of it's
not even overdosing, Buck, it's poisoning. You don't even know
that you're taking it right, They're they're.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Making it so that it looks like pharmaceutical hills, which
have been assuming they're actually made in a major farm,
you know, in a major drug company lab at least
you know the dosing, you know what's actually in it,
never mind just the dosing. The cartels. So they're poisoning
people and it's a lethal issue and we're responding with
(10:17):
lethal force. This is Mark or Rubio. We didn't play
this last Weeklay, but I wanted everyone to hear it
when the press was pushing him on this issue. This
is how the Secretary of State responded, Play twenty Well,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
The question is, bottom line, these are drug boats.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up,
stop sending drugs to the United.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
States, doesn't matter in the United States.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Well, these are all in international waters. The boats strike
in the United States, or well that's a different man.
Now you're talking about law enforcement matter.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
In this particular case, there are people traveling on international
waters headed towards the United States with hostilities in mind,
which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs, and
they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening. And
in the case last week, he saw there was a submarine.
It was a submarine, it was a submersible. That's a
drug boat. All the way through. We know what these
votes are. The President just said it. We tracked them
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from the very beginning. We know who's on them, who
they are, where they're coming from, what they have on them.
And you know, if you're running drug boats here and
you're in grave danger.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
This is changing the calculation for the cartels that this
continues play. And I don't see the administration stopping. If anything,
I think a lot of just everyday Americans are saying, yeah,
I don't want any work. I don't want any more
like star athletes in my high school dying because they
thought they took a xanax and it was something else.
Or I don't want anybody who's suffering from fentanyl, you know,
poisoning anywhere.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And I will just say this you, Marco Rubio, jd Vance,
you're talking about elite I really believe this intellect and communicators.
You can just almost see and hear the eye roll
from Marco Rubio as he's having to answer that stupid
(11:52):
question about, hey, well, these are international waters. That's different
than the United States waters, Right, Like the difference between
an elite communicator when it comes to these kind of
questions and the media that are asking the questions. I'm
not sure we've ever seen it exposed more than with
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the team that Trump has put around him in two
point zero, which are elite communicators. You know, people come
after Trump and they say, oh, well, he picked Pete
Hegseth from Fox News, or he picked up, you know,
with Sean Duffy from Fox News. Right, people who are
on television. Typically people who are on television are pretty
good at communicating, and so they can take complex issues
and they can distill it down so that it can
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be easily understood. JD and Marco are also elite communicators,
and we know Trump certainly is fantastic when it comes
to communication.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
There is something that is percolating out there that I
think we should talk about, my friends, a little bit
of a departure from the political stories of the day
for a second here, although this certainly has a lot
of politics involved. The possibility, which is now starting to
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look more and more like a probability, that there will
be strikes by our military inside of Venezuela. This would
be something, as you know, we have already had about
a dozen kinetic strikes, missile attacks really on drug vehicles
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of one kind or boats, but also submarines, right, so
different kinds of nautical vessels. So that's going on already,
and international waters are getting blown up. Senator Rampaul is
very upset about this. It is quite aggressive. But you
have to look at this as we don't want people
die from fencinyl overdoses anymore. That fentanyl gets to US shores,
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people take it, they die in large numbers. Enough is enough.
I am not seeing a lot of outrage from the
American people over this. And we have set a precedent
in the past where executive action for counter terrorism has
resulted in strikes, including in countries sovereign nations with whom
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we are not at war, Pakistan being the most of it,
but also Geman and so al you. So we have
been striking enemies in countries without a declaration of war
for a long time and those are essentially terrorists involved
in ongoing plotting, and that's enough to take them out.
So in this case, you look at the transportation of
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massive amounts of a very lethal drug. I understand that
people can take it for a while and not die,
but they can take it one time and die. And
a lot of people are going to be addicted to
it and take it until they die. And it's horrendous
and scourge is destroying families and communities, and it's awful.
And so I have not seen very much in the
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way of pushback by the American people. I've seen Senator
Rampaul and a handful of others. Well, the Trump haters
don't like it in Congress because they don't like anything
Trump does. Like we say, Trump could cure cancer, and
all of a sudden, Democrats would be pro cancer. But
this would be an expansion beyond just the strikes against
vessels in international waters to attacks in Venezuela. Miami Herald
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a left wing paper here in my hometown, but does
some good reporting on occasion. Here's what they write. At
a military base in eastern Venezuela's Caribbean coast, radar screens
sit mostly dark, generators hum sporadically, parts are stripped from
grounded aircraft, and officers communicate on personal cell phones because
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the armies radios no longer work. Just a few hundred
miles north, the Caribbean Sea is bristling with US warships,
stealth jets, and high tech drones. In what analysts describe
as the region's largest show of force in half a century.
Washington has deployed one of the most powerful naval forces
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the region has seen in decades, an aircraft carrier, several destroyers,
a submarine, f thirty five fighter jets, and swarms of
armed drones. On the other side, Maduro's war machine struggles
to stay alive, undermined by corruption, neglect.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And fear.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So here you have, lining up across the battlefield from
each other, the most formidable military on the planet under
the auspices of the Department of War no longer the
Department of Defense. It's going to take me a while
to be able to make that switch, so you don't
have to keep reminding me. I promise, I'll try. I
guess Secretary of War is now the title as well.
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I did see a funny meme going around that hegset
didn't want to be called secretary because that's too wimpy,
But that was a joke, as my understanding. So here
we have the Maduro regime in the weakest military position
it has been in perhaps in the twentieth century. The
socialist destruction of their economy and the elite's reliance on
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illegal drugs just to keep it all, you know, the
importation of legal drugs in the United States. Essentially, Venezuela
is a failed state and a narco state. And this administration,
the Trump administration, has had enough. And there's a lot
of reporting coming out now that the Trump administration has
identified targets in Venezuela that smuggle drugs, that these are
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part of the international cartel activities that lead to the
deaths of large numbers of Americans through overdoses, through poisoning,
and the Trump administration is preparing to take action against them.
There is very little that Venezuela would be able to
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do to even defend its most important military facilities. Essentially,
Venezuela is hollowed out as a regime already, so this
would not be difficult. And now it's interesting because we've
had a Trump administration that, on the one hand, has
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always stayed very clear in its philosophy of non intervention.
In Trumpian terms, no stupid wars, no stupid wars, but
no stupid wars under Trump has not meant no military
action against our enemies. These are different things. It is
in fact possible, say, to take part in the destruction
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of Iran's nuclear facilities without starting World War three, as
some we're saying, it is in fact possible to take
out a terrorist mastermind in custom Solomani, among many others,
to take him out with a strike by the Trump
administration in Baghdad and Iraq and not have Iran irrupt
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into some broader Middle Eastern conflict. These are things that
Trump administration has done, and has done effectively and successfully,
and for which there has not been some price that
we have paid. So now we look at the case
of Venezuela, it is one thing to go after these
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these Venezuelan military facilities. Remember, the military and the regime
are part of the drug trafficking. This is now a
state enterprise for Venezuela. And it is such a reminder
for the America in people right now of what socialism
really does, What social justice economics and politics results in.
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What the obsession with class envy. When you put bad faith,
left wing populous in charge, what do they do? They
destroy like a plague of locusts, They destroy your society.
Venezuela has crazy inflation, it has empty store shelves, it
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has horrific crime. There's essentially no meaningful law enforcement. It
plays the mess. This was the third wealthiest country in
the Western Hemisphere after the US and Canada into the nineties.
This is a country that has Venezuela has larger proven
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oil reserves than Saudi Arabia. I know that sounds impossible,
but you can to grocket. I'm gonna start saying crocket
instead of Google it, and I gotta make that switch.
No more, no more Google crocket. They have the largest
proven ore reserves, or larger than Saudi Arabia. So this
should be for all intents and purposes, this should be
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a wealthy, prosperous country. And it has been that in
the past, relatively speaking. But people took over who said,
your life, you the peasants, you the have nots, you
the poor, Your life will be great. If you just
put us, the left wing radical socialists, in charge, we
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will take from them and give to you. Now, to
do that, we have to be able to violate our
own laws. We have to violate property rights, we have
to violate contracts. So you're really you, meaning the the
Venezuelan landless and the peasants. You have have to be
willing to create a monster. Javez den Maduro you create
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a monster, but the monster promises it will be your monster.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
You're going to.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Empower this government, in the case of Venezuela, to be
able to run roughshod over decency, fairness, its word, contracts,
the law, morality. It'll do whatever it has to do,
but it's gonna take care of you. Just create that monster,
give it power that one time. This is the story
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we've seen play out in all of these socialist dictatorships.
This is the story we've seen play out everywhere that's
really communist in its ethos. Guess what happens. The monster
is in charge, and then the monster doesn't care about
the silly, poor people who voted for it. In fact,
it makes them poorer, It makes their lives worse. It
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enriches itself, and then it eats and tears down and
destroys everything else to keep it self in power. It
is only self interested. The socialist, the revolutionary elite, all
of these places, including Venezuela, they become entirely self interested.
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It's supposed to be all about other people. And guess what,
as soon as they have the power. The elites, the
new elite, after railing against the old elite, that all
they care about is staying in power in their own perks.
Is exactly what has happened in Venezuela. And I also
want to remind you, because I've been following the stories
you can tell I get passion about. I've been falling
for a long time. I had my daddy had a
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family friend of ours who found out that his family
was being dispossessed and all their property was being seized.
By watching Chavez do his TV show, The Dictator Chavez
now the Dictator Maduro would do this, I think it
was called like Alo mister Presidente or something. They would
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do this long like almost like a like a long
form radio show, but it was on TV. They would
take callers and my dad did this guy who's what
was watching, like, yeah, oh that family, We're gonna take
all their stuff. You know, they're capitalists, their pigs.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
We're gonna take all their stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Say to flee the country. Like I said, create the monster,
because it's gonna be your monster, right. The people who
are upset, the people who want more stuff never works,
never works. In fact, it makes that makes them worse off.
And they've traded their own decency. They've traded their own
ethics to get something that they never end up getting,
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and then the populace just become even more desperate and angry.
And this is the story it plays out over and
over again, because it's really it's not about socialism, it's
not a social or political science. It's really about manipulating
human emotion and human envy. And that's why they've destroyed Venezuela.
Now what's Trump going to do about this? Well, it
looks like we're about to take out anything that's involved
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with the drug trade. Can the regime stay in power
with all of that gone and destroyed? And won't it
also show everybody, Hey, not only is the Madure regime
corrupt and criminal, but they're inept, they're weak, they're not
even good at being dictator, they're not even good at
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trampling on all of your rights. They're pathetic. And then
do something rise up and replace them? Is it better?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I don't know, but it certainly seems possible. By the way.
The story I told of Venezuela as I'm here in
South Florida, it's the same story with Cuba under Castro,
same story, same story, although in that case I think
you could even say it was just more about brute force.
It was just they overthrew the government to the force
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of arms and pretended they were going to help the
poor and just made everybody poor except the people in
charge of the astro regime. So this is the truth
of how it works. Unfortunately, far too often in Latin America,
Trump going after very it's very much. If you have
not seen Clear in Present Danger, you know I'm a
big Tom Clancy fan. If you haven't seen the movie
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or read the book, it feels a little bit like
life imitating art here, because I think this is where
we're going, where we're gonna have really serious and it's
gonna be more than what you see even in Clear
and Present Danger. It's gonna be military action to bring
down a narco regime in South America, the Venezuelan regime.
I don't think it's gonna last that much longer.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
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Speaker 2 (26:52):
So we tell you things here because they're true and
because we believe them, and then it's it's fun to
see how even our ideological enemies will often have to say,
you know, that thing that Clay and Buck among others
have been telling you, particularly about anything Trump related, that
thing that they've been telling you is true. It actually
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is true. Like they're not just saying it because they're
saying it because it reflects reality. It is accurate, it
is honest, it is necessary. And a great example of
this is how we've been saying this Trump ballroom East
Wing demolition situation, which if you were to veer over
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in an MSNBC, they act like Trump is like silk
screening his hair onto the Mona Lisa or something. I mean,
they are so freaked out about this, like oh my gosh,
the history, the history of America. They're all so upset.
But the reality is this is a good idea and
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the design looks good, and this is for future presidencies
and they will be happy to have it. This from
the Washington Post, which is occasionally, I think, so that
Jeff Bezos doesn't just turn it into like a big
cooking channel or something occasionally tries to be rational. Clay,
I'm going to read from Some of this is from
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the editorial board. This is not from one person. This
is the editorial board. Read you some of this editorial
in Clay, I want you to react, okay. Quote In
classic Trump fashion, the President is pursuing a reasonable idea
in the most jarring, jarring manner possible. Privately, many alumni
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of the Biden and Obama White Houses acknowledge the long
overdue need for an event space like what Trump is creating.
It is absurd that tents need to be erected on
the south lawn for state dinners, and VIPs are forced
to use porta potties. The State eight dining room seats
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one hundred and forty, the East room two hundred. Trump
says the ballroom at the center of his ninety thousand
square foot edition will accommodate nine hundred and ninety nine guests.
The next Democratic president will be happy to have this
one more thing. Preservationists express horror that Trump did not
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submit his plans to their scrutiny. But the truth is
that this project would not have gotten done, certainly not
during his term. If he had gone through a traditional
review process. The blueprints would have been faced by death
by a thousand paper cuts. End quote Clay. As we
have been saying this is sensible. It looks like it
is being well designed and well executed, and the people
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that are saying but both the process the process, the
process to get this done would be insane. It would
take a decade to build this freaking ballroom. And Trump
is getting it done in Trump fashion, which means right away,
there is a big article and and I maybe the
team can look up to make sure which newspaper it is, because.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I again read them every morning, so you don't have
to in either the Wall Street Journal or the New
York Times, which goes into in earnest how this came
to be, And basically the biggest takeaway is there essentially
is no zoning restriction on the White House. So for
all of you out there that have ever built anything,
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typically there are community boards.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
There are cities, there are states.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean sadly, California is a perfect example of this
because almost no one whose home was burned down in
the LA fires has yet been able to get a
permit to be able to start rebuilding. And what the
article points out is that I believe it's the White House,
the Supreme Court, and it's the Capitol building are essentially
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zoning free, and the President can just decide that he
wants to remodel. And Trump saw this, couldn't believe it,
and said, okay, well let's do it.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I mean, he's a builder.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And the article says that as all the way back
at twenty ten buck he called unsolicited David Axelrod. They
said that Mina Brazinski gave Trump David Axelrod's phone number.
He was the Obama chief of staff, I think, and
Trump called in twenty ten and told David Axelrod this
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ballroom situation. Can well imagine when he was just a
reality television star before he had gotten into politics. He said, look,
the ballroom situation is a disgrace. There's no way you
should have to be tenting the south Lawn to be
able to host big events. He said, I want to
build a ballroom for Obama. Back then he just said
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for the country. He said, I build beautiful ballrooms. You
can come down and check it out at mar A Lago.
And this is something that he's been obsessed with now
for fifteen years. And to me, what is interesting from
a metaphorical perspective, and this is what drives people crazy,
is Trump is making decisions to a large extent for
things that he will never benefit for personally, because he
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thinks it's better for the country. And this is what
oftentimes builders do. Is I wrote about it quite a
lot in my new book. But when I was at Bedminster,
most recently, when I went with Trump to the NCAA
wrestling tournament, Trump was right around in his golf cart
picking locations for new trees on Bedminster. It's a beautiful
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golf course out there. Some of you have had the
opportunity to play it in New Jersey. He's not going
The thing I love about trees, my wife makes fun
of me for how much I like trees, is if
you ever have been on a property which has beautifully
laid out trees, a perfect lane or an entrance to
a home. Trees are left for the next generations, typically
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not for the individuals who plant them, because it takes
so long for the trees to grow. It's an effort
to try to make the world more beautiful after you're gone.
And Trump with this ballroom, also with Air Force One. Frankly,
he's not really going to benefit much himself. He just
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wants for the United States to have a majestic venue
that befits the majesty of this country, and he's basically
bequeathing it to the nation, even though for most of
the time he's going to be gone when it's being
used by Democrat, Republicans or parties we don't even know
of in the years ahead.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
This is just another I know it's the thousandth, the
millionth example of this, but it's so childish and just
so exhausting to be on the other side of the
childishness that whatever Trump does, we have to say it's horrible.
You know, whatever Trump does, the Washington Democrat media and
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the Democrat machinery and politics, and the left and the
progressives and that they all, oh my god, you're so
terrible what Trump is doing. He's doing something with private
money that will look great, that will be great for
the White House currently and future. That makes sense to
anybody who understands the current situation of the White House.
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And all you'd have to do is sit there and
think this through for a second. You know, if you
want to freak out about Trump, there's a lot of
things that you could find where at least I get,
you know, how they're making an argument about it, or
I get why it bothers them so much. But for this,
it's just another instance of Trump derangement. Syndro muntfull display
the Washington Post editorial. I think it's because at some
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level they recognize that people who know about this White
House are starting to make this argument. And you know,
when you have former Obama staffers who are saying, yeah,
that's a pretty good idea. If that gets out a
lot of people on MSNBC, the people on Morning Joe,
we're acting like Trump is is bulldozing the louver. They
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got the guys, by the way, we should probably that
maybe maybe official Well I haven't seen that they officially
officially got the guys yet.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I mean, I know they made a rest, but they haven't.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
We think it was the guy in the photo who
looks like the fancy French detective you know that photo. Like, no,
but there's a there's a that's not really inspectorcluse. So
there's a guy who when they in the you know
what I'm talking about, there was an outside the louver. Oh,
there's some guy who's a French detective who looks like
if you were casting a French detective. Unless this is
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AI guys, I don't know. I don't know what the
You cannot get mad Ai because some of these photos.
Now with the Ai, you're gonna have a really good
eye and you'll miss it. So maybe that's what I'm
thinking of. On the ballroom, did you see that? Swallwell tweeted?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
This is Congressman Swallwell from California, He of the Feng
Fang dallions, Chinese spy. Don't even think of seeking the
Democrat nomination for president unless you pledge to take a
wrecking ball to the Trump ballroom on all caps day one.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I just.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Is he actually this dumb?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I mean, the ballroom is going to be a phenomenal
edifice for all parties to be able to host. I
might mention also, Buck and I would imagine a much
safer way. I can't imagine that having tents on the
South lawn is an ideal security mechanism for all of
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the heads of state, to say nothing of the difficulty
associated with it. And again, Trump has been trying to
get this done since before he was a politician. Fifteen
years ago, he called up when Obama was in office
and said, Hey, let me build a really great ballroom
for the country. And now this just comes back to
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he's just trying to solve as many problems as he
possibly can in what is going to be a relatively
short four year term. And he's a builder. I think
you can criticize him for a lot. You've been in
the mar Alago Ballroom. We did chose from basically there.
It's a spectacular hosting event location. This is an incredible
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gift that Trump is giving to the country, and again
every president for the rest of our lives will be
able to use it, no matter what political party they're in,
for the betterment of the overall hosting facilities at the
White House. It's just a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yes, you would think that Democrats would be so excited
that now they will have a massive White House venue
to host drag Queen Story Hour, you know, like you
would think that they would see that this will soon
be the shoe, so to speak, will be on the
other foot, and that they would be in a position
to use this for their own purposes, and that it
makes a lot of sense and it's a smart thing
to do, and it's good for security as well, which
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you and I pointed out, much better than having a
tent on the lawn. That's not something that you really
want to continue to mess around with. So it makes
sense in every respect. But Democrats hated it because Trump
was doing it. But now they're having to figure out that,
like so many things that Trump has done that they hated,
they just hated it because Trump was doing it, And maybe,
just maybe they should grow up and pick and choose
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their battles and say, hmmm, nice, the guy who's famous
for building incredible towers, incredible buildings all over the world,
the golf courses, all this stuff. Maybe he knows what
he's doing on this one like he does on a
whole bunch of other things. You know that they could
take a deep breath, but they're not there yet. Eventually, Clay,
when we get it, when we get past the midterms
and we start seeing them, we start talking about whether
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it's going to be the advance Rubio ticket. This is
where they'll start to say things. They'll mutter under their
breath and then louder and louder over time. Well, that
thing Trump did was actually pretty good, you know, it
kind of made some sense. You know, Then the truth
will be able to be said about some of these things,
like the ball room, which is coming along very well.
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Now, we have great people. I don't have to get
into that, but we have one of them standing right here.
We have JD. Obviously, the vice president is great. I
think Marco is great. I think I'm not sure if
anybody would run against us. I think if they have
a formed the group would be that's up. I really do.
(00:33):
I believe that I would. I would, I would love
to do it, and I have my best numbers. Ever,
it's very terrible. I have my best numbers. See you
read you read it? Am I not really gonna You'll
have to tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, So Trump talking again, the obsession Trump twenty twenty eight.
I'm gonna be honest with you, Buck. I wish he
could run again. I mean, I know he's seventy nine,
but he's not gonna run. I wish he could. I
do think the idea of a JD. Marco ticket unity
from the start is starting to get some momentum. Do
(01:09):
you buy the idea that that duo Marco Rubio obviously
has seven hundred and sixty eight different jobs inside of
the Trump administration right now, primarily Secretary of State JD.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Van's VP.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you buy the idea that those guys might just say, hey,
let's keep the band together and have a unity ticket
and we might not even see that much drama in
twenty twenty eight, that Trump might just say, Hey, these
are my guys.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I'm not going to run.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm eighty three years old, but they have my complete
and total endorsement. I could see a world where people
just say, ah, you know, I like this team, I
like how things are going.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
You buy this?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, because I'm starting to think it's more and
more of a possibility that they just say, hey, we're
a unity ticket, We're Trump three two point oh, three
point oh. However you want to say it, and let's
not have all the drama of this huge fight. Let's
just keep things rolling. What do you think is it
too clean?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It all sounds great and it would be phenomenal in
so many ways. A lot could happen in two and
a half years, my friends, So you know, this is
this is the thing, this is the way we think
the story should go. And that to me means it's
unlikely that that is the way the story will play out.
(02:24):
That's how I view this. Yes, it should go this way,
there is a pathway. But remember I was I was
doing shows play in twenty nineteen. You know, I was
doing the solo Buck shows in twenty nineteen, when I
was saying, guys, the country, things are great, enjoy it.
Trump's kicking ass economy is phenomenal. We're at peace. You know,
things are great, and then boom, a.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Few months later, you're doing TikTok dances by yourself in
your apartment in New York City.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
We don't have we don't have to go back to
that trauma every time. You know, it was very difficult.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I still want to see the TikTok dances.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My hair was getting longer and my waist was getting
bigger every day of the COVID pandemic, and I'm doing
these TikTok dances alone in my tiny apartment in New York,
surrounded by lunatics who don't think you can go outside.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I mean this. I walked into your apartment.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
The first thing I said was I was like, I
would have gone insane. You know, we didn't really do
COVID here in Franklin Tennessee, just basically like March and
April and maybe a little bit of May. People were like, eh,
you know a little bit, and then it was kind
of over. And then every time I see people, you
some of you guys still have a lot of post
(03:32):
traumatic stress. You la your New York Chicago residents who
really had to go through the chaos and the insanity.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
LA people most a lot of them had yards, more
weather more so.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
But I mean Gavin Newsom was arresting paddle boarders. I mean,
I mean, this was it wouldn't even let them walk on.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The I'm just saying New York turned into it turned
into a prison camp with masking. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The only reason to live in New York City is
to be able to who experienced the city, anybody who
has ever had to be cloistered in tiny little apartments
that I do think New York had the worst of everybody.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
I would have lost my mind. I certainly wouldn't have
been able to stay.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Trump being Trump, by the way, in addition to saying hey,
JD and Marco could be an incredible team, he also
decided to tee off on Jasmine Crockett and he challenged
them to a cognitive test AOC. We're going to talk
about AOC coming after our friend Riley gains here in
a moment. But Trump also challenged AOC and Jasmine Crockett
to a cognitive test. And you'll want to hear this
(04:34):
cut twenty two.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So I can tell you is that we have a
great group of people, which they don't. They have jazz
Been Crockett, a low IQ person.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
They have.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
AOC's low IQ. You give her the IQ tests, have
her passed. Like the exams that I decided to take
when I was at Walter Reed, I took. That's a
very hard They really have to do tests. I guess
at a certain point with the cognitive tests. Let AOC
go against Trump, let Jasmine go against Rum. I know
(05:04):
they get a Jasmine the first couple of questions. There
is a tiger and elephant that you have. You know,
when you get up to about five or six, and
then when you get up to ten and twenty and
twenty five, they couldn't come close to answering any of
those questions.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I mean, he is just you know what's on. You
know what's really unfair is if Trump doesn't run again.
And I think that he does just like to say
that he's gonna run again because it upsets the Libs
so much. But if he doesn't run again, Clay, our
jobs will never be as entertaining as they have been
in the Trump era, because he makes you, guys even
(05:40):
remember what it was like back in the days when oh,
everything Obama said was genius and perfect. It was boring
and generally useless and often lies and wrong. In the
Bush era, whatever, you know, people just said stuff. You
know Clinton, I mean Clinton stuff got a little spicy
toward the end, as we know, but in general, we
did not have a resident who just says hilarious things
(06:02):
all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Can we play the end of that clip, I mean
the part where I mean it's not scripted right where
he just talks about I presume that they're showing you
pictures of animals as a part of the cognition test, uh,
But just can we play like the last ten seconds
of that again? Because I mean that his comedic timing
and the fact that people don't get his sense of humor.
(06:26):
I I really, I feel like so many people who
have Trump derangement syndrome, really what they have is an
inability to process tone and context, because I mean, how
could you not laugh at this at the end of
this answer.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Maybe we don't have the ability to pull out.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, they really, I guess at a certain point. But
the cognitive tests, let AOC go against Trump, let Jasmin
go against something I do they get a Jasmin the
first couple of questions, there is a tiger and elephant
that you're in. You know, when you get up to
about five or six, and then when you get up
to ten at twenty at twenty five, they couldn't come
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close to answering any of those questions.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
All right, So Jasmin Crockett has firebackbuck.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Jasmine Crockett says, I got into college on my own.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Trump didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
This is Jasmine Crockett responding to Trump saying she has
a low IQ cut twenty three.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
I'm waiting on a reporter and maybe it'll be you, Kaitlin.
Then finally ask him what is his IQ, because he
is constantly talking about he doesn't even know what a
low IQ is. He don't even know which scores are low.
And I can guarantee you that whatever score, if he's
taken one anytime recently, I'm sure that his qualifies as
low Listen, He's never been known to be at Einstein.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
This is not a guy who.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Got in on merriage when it came to going to college.
This is someone who, but for him being born with
a silver spoon, probably wouldn't have got into anybody's institution,
unlike me. So you know, I am not worried about that,
and I wish people would look at the fact that
you have a president of the United States who consistently
is obsessing over two women of color that are members
(08:08):
of the House.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, so the whole women of color thing is Jasmine Crockett,
in your opinion, an elite intellect buck, I'll answer first, no,
And it's not just Jasmin Crockett. I'm disappointed. I bet
you are on some level too. You know who's really
disappointed by it is Laura Travis, my wife. There are
a lot of people who represent us in Congress and
(08:33):
in the Senate that are not high intellect. That's not ideal.
They're also not great communicators, that is really not ideal.
Like we are not represented in general Republicans, Democrats, Independence
by the most accomplished and intellectually sound and great communicators
out there. I think one thing that Trump diagnosed in
(08:54):
politics was that he could have the success he had
with no background in politics, because there are a lot
of lightweights that he is knocking out and pushing around
candidly when it comes to arguments and it comes to
the political direction of the country.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
The blowing up up the drug book by this administration,
I don't I don't think that the Democrat left was
prepared for how much most Americans. And it comes after
decades now of far too many fentl overdoses. And fentanyl
is different than cocaine. It's different than marijuana. Obviously, it
(09:38):
is far more dangerous, far more addictive, and far more dangerous.
It's very easy to overdose on fentanyl. And there's a
whole bunch of ways.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And let me just say this too, because I've had
a lot of people out there, a lot of it's
not even overdosing, Buck, it's poisoning. You don't even know
that you're taking it right, They're they're.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Making it so that it looks like pharmaceutical hills, which
have been assuming they're actually made in a major farm,
you know, in a major drug company lab at least
you know the dosing, you know what's actually in it,
never mind just the dosing. The cartels. So they're poisoning
people and it's a lethal issue and we're responding with
(10:17):
lethal force. This is Mark or Rubio. We didn't play
this last Weeklay, but I wanted everyone to hear it
when the press was pushing him on this issue. This
is how the Secretary of State responded, Play twenty Well,
I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
The question is, bottom line, these are drug boats.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
If people want to stop seeing drug boats blow up,
stop sending drugs to the United.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
States, doesn't matter in the United States.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Well, these are all in international waters. The boats strike
in the United States, or well that's a different man.
Now you're talking about law enforcement matter.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
In this particular case, there are people traveling on international
waters headed towards the United States with hostilities in mind,
which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs, and
they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening. And
in the case last week, he saw there was a submarine.
It was a submarine, it was a submersible. That's a
drug boat. All the way through. We know what these
votes are. The President just said it. We tracked them
(11:02):
from the very beginning. We know who's on them, who
they are, where they're coming from, what they have on them.
And you know, if you're running drug boats here and
you're in grave danger.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
This is changing the calculation for the cartels that this
continues play. And I don't see the administration stopping. If anything,
I think a lot of just everyday Americans are saying, yeah,
I don't want any work. I don't want any more
like star athletes in my high school dying because they
thought they took a xanax and it was something else.
Or I don't want anybody who's suffering from fentanyl, you know,
poisoning anywhere.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And I will just say this you, Marco Rubio, jd Vance,
you're talking about elite I really believe this intellect and communicators.
You can just almost see and hear the eye roll
from Marco Rubio as he's having to answer that stupid
(11:52):
question about, hey, well, these are international waters. That's different
than the United States waters, Right, Like the difference between
an elite communicator when it comes to these kind of
questions and the media that are asking the questions. I'm
not sure we've ever seen it exposed more than with
(12:13):
the team that Trump has put around him in two
point zero, which are elite communicators. You know, people come
after Trump and they say, oh, well, he picked Pete
Hegseth from Fox News, or he picked up, you know,
with Sean Duffy from Fox News. Right, people who are
on television. Typically people who are on television are pretty
good at communicating, and so they can take complex issues
and they can distill it down so that it can
(12:34):
be easily understood. JD and Marco are also elite communicators,
and we know Trump certainly is fantastic when it comes
to communication.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
There is something that is percolating out there that I
think we should talk about, my friends, a little bit
of a departure from the political stories of the day
for a second here, although this certainly has a lot
of politics involved. The possibility, which is now starting to
(13:12):
look more and more like a probability, that there will
be strikes by our military inside of Venezuela. This would
be something, as you know, we have already had about
a dozen kinetic strikes, missile attacks really on drug vehicles
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of one kind or boats, but also submarines, right, so
different kinds of nautical vessels. So that's going on already,
and international waters are getting blown up. Senator Rampaul is
very upset about this. It is quite aggressive. But you
have to look at this as we don't want people
die from fencinyl overdoses anymore. That fentanyl gets to US shores,
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people take it, they die in large numbers. Enough is enough.
I am not seeing a lot of outrage from the
American people over this. And we have set a precedent
in the past where executive action for counter terrorism has
resulted in strikes, including in countries sovereign nations with whom
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we are not at war, Pakistan being the most of it,
but also Geman and so al you. So we have
been striking enemies in countries without a declaration of war
for a long time and those are essentially terrorists involved
in ongoing plotting, and that's enough to take them out.
So in this case, you look at the transportation of
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massive amounts of a very lethal drug. I understand that
people can take it for a while and not die,
but they can take it one time and die. And
a lot of people are going to be addicted to
it and take it until they die. And it's horrendous
and scourge is destroying families and communities, and it's awful.
And so I have not seen very much in the
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way of pushback by the American people. I've seen Senator
Rampaul and a handful of others. Well, the Trump haters
don't like it in Congress because they don't like anything
Trump does. Like we say, Trump could cure cancer, and
all of a sudden, Democrats would be pro cancer. But
this would be an expansion beyond just the strikes against
vessels in international waters to attacks in Venezuela. Miami Herald
(15:32):
a left wing paper here in my hometown, but does
some good reporting on occasion. Here's what they write. At
a military base in eastern Venezuela's Caribbean coast, radar screens
sit mostly dark, generators hum sporadically, parts are stripped from
grounded aircraft, and officers communicate on personal cell phones because
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the armies radios no longer work. Just a few hundred
miles north, the Caribbean Sea is bristling with US warships,
stealth jets, and high tech drones. In what analysts describe
as the region's largest show of force in half a century.
Washington has deployed one of the most powerful naval forces
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the region has seen in decades, an aircraft carrier, several destroyers,
a submarine, f thirty five fighter jets, and swarms of
armed drones. On the other side, Maduro's war machine struggles
to stay alive, undermined by corruption, neglect.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
And fear.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So here you have, lining up across the battlefield from
each other, the most formidable military on the planet under
the auspices of the Department of War no longer the
Department of Defense. It's going to take me a while
to be able to make that switch, so you don't
have to keep reminding me. I promise, I'll try. I
guess Secretary of War is now the title as well.
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I did see a funny meme going around that hegset
didn't want to be called secretary because that's too wimpy,
But that was a joke, as my understanding. So here
we have the Maduro regime in the weakest military position
it has been in perhaps in the twentieth century. The
socialist destruction of their economy and the elite's reliance on
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illegal drugs just to keep it all, you know, the
importation of legal drugs in the United States. Essentially, Venezuela
is a failed state and a narco state. And this administration,
the Trump administration, has had enough. And there's a lot
of reporting coming out now that the Trump administration has
identified targets in Venezuela that smuggle drugs, that these are
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part of the international cartel activities that lead to the
deaths of large numbers of Americans through overdoses, through poisoning,
and the Trump administration is preparing to take action against them.
There is very little that Venezuela would be able to
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do to even defend its most important military facilities. Essentially,
Venezuela is hollowed out as a regime already, so this
would not be difficult. And now it's interesting because we've
had a Trump administration that, on the one hand, has
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always stayed very clear in its philosophy of non intervention.
In Trumpian terms, no stupid wars, no stupid wars, but
no stupid wars under Trump has not meant no military
action against our enemies. These are different things. It is
in fact possible, say, to take part in the destruction
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of Iran's nuclear facilities without starting World War three, as
some we're saying, it is in fact possible to take
out a terrorist mastermind in custom Solomani, among many others,
to take him out with a strike by the Trump
administration in Baghdad and Iraq and not have Iran irrupt
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into some broader Middle Eastern conflict. These are things that
Trump administration has done, and has done effectively and successfully,
and for which there has not been some price that
we have paid. So now we look at the case
of Venezuela, it is one thing to go after these
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these Venezuelan military facilities. Remember, the military and the regime
are part of the drug trafficking. This is now a
state enterprise for Venezuela. And it is such a reminder
for the America in people right now of what socialism
really does, What social justice economics and politics results in.
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What the obsession with class envy. When you put bad faith,
left wing populous in charge, what do they do? They
destroy like a plague of locusts, They destroy your society.
Venezuela has crazy inflation, it has empty store shelves, it
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has horrific crime. There's essentially no meaningful law enforcement. It
plays the mess. This was the third wealthiest country in
the Western Hemisphere after the US and Canada into the nineties.
This is a country that has Venezuela has larger proven
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oil reserves than Saudi Arabia. I know that sounds impossible,
but you can to grocket. I'm gonna start saying crocket
instead of Google it, and I gotta make that switch.
No more, no more Google crocket. They have the largest
proven ore reserves, or larger than Saudi Arabia. So this
should be for all intents and purposes, this should be
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a wealthy, prosperous country. And it has been that in
the past, relatively speaking. But people took over who said,
your life, you the peasants, you the have nots, you
the poor, Your life will be great. If you just
put us, the left wing radical socialists, in charge, we
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will take from them and give to you. Now, to
do that, we have to be able to violate our
own laws. We have to violate property rights, we have
to violate contracts. So you're really you, meaning the the
Venezuelan landless and the peasants. You have have to be
willing to create a monster. Javez den Maduro you create
(22:06):
a monster, but the monster promises it will be your monster.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
You're going to.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Empower this government, in the case of Venezuela, to be
able to run roughshod over decency, fairness, its word, contracts,
the law, morality. It'll do whatever it has to do,
but it's gonna take care of you. Just create that monster,
give it power that one time. This is the story
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we've seen play out in all of these socialist dictatorships.
This is the story we've seen play out everywhere that's
really communist in its ethos. Guess what happens. The monster
is in charge, and then the monster doesn't care about
the silly, poor people who voted for it. In fact,
it makes them poorer, It makes their lives worse. It
(22:54):
enriches itself, and then it eats and tears down and
destroys everything else to keep it self in power. It
is only self interested. The socialist, the revolutionary elite, all
of these places, including Venezuela, they become entirely self interested.
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It's supposed to be all about other people. And guess what,
as soon as they have the power. The elites, the
new elite, after railing against the old elite, that all
they care about is staying in power in their own perks.
Is exactly what has happened in Venezuela. And I also
want to remind you, because I've been following the stories
you can tell I get passion about. I've been falling
for a long time. I had my daddy had a
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family friend of ours who found out that his family
was being dispossessed and all their property was being seized.
By watching Chavez do his TV show, The Dictator Chavez
now the Dictator Maduro would do this, I think it
was called like Alo mister Presidente or something. They would
(24:00):
do this long like almost like a like a long
form radio show, but it was on TV. They would
take callers and my dad did this guy who's what
was watching, like, yeah, oh that family, We're gonna take
all their stuff. You know, they're capitalists, their pigs.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
We're gonna take all their stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Say to flee the country. Like I said, create the monster,
because it's gonna be your monster, right. The people who
are upset, the people who want more stuff never works,
never works. In fact, it makes that makes them worse off.
And they've traded their own decency. They've traded their own
ethics to get something that they never end up getting,
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and then the populace just become even more desperate and angry.
And this is the story it plays out over and
over again, because it's really it's not about socialism, it's
not a social or political science. It's really about manipulating
human emotion and human envy. And that's why they've destroyed Venezuela.
Now what's Trump going to do about this? Well, it
looks like we're about to take out anything that's involved
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with the drug trade. Can the regime stay in power
with all of that gone and destroyed? And won't it
also show everybody, Hey, not only is the Madure regime
corrupt and criminal, but they're inept, they're weak, they're not
even good at being dictator, they're not even good at
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trampling on all of your rights. They're pathetic. And then
do something rise up and replace them? Is it better?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Who is it?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I don't know, but it certainly seems possible. By the way.
The story I told of Venezuela as I'm here in
South Florida, it's the same story with Cuba under Castro,
same story, same story, although in that case I think
you could even say it was just more about brute force.
It was just they overthrew the government to the force
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of arms and pretended they were going to help the
poor and just made everybody poor except the people in
charge of the astro regime. So this is the truth
of how it works. Unfortunately, far too often in Latin America,
Trump going after very it's very much. If you have
not seen Clear in Present Danger, you know I'm a
big Tom Clancy fan. If you haven't seen the movie
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or read the book, it feels a little bit like
life imitating art here, because I think this is where
we're going, where we're gonna have really serious and it's
gonna be more than what you see even in Clear
and Present Danger. It's gonna be military action to bring
down a narco regime in South America, the Venezuelan regime.
I don't think it's gonna last that much longer.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
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So we tell you things here because they're true and
because we believe them, and then it's it's fun to
see how even our ideological enemies will often have to say,
you know, that thing that Clay and Buck among others
have been telling you, particularly about anything Trump related, that
thing that they've been telling you is true. It actually
(27:13):
is true. Like they're not just saying it because they're
saying it because it reflects reality. It is accurate, it
is honest, it is necessary. And a great example of
this is how we've been saying this Trump ballroom East
Wing demolition situation, which if you were to veer over
(27:35):
in an MSNBC, they act like Trump is like silk
screening his hair onto the Mona Lisa or something. I mean,
they are so freaked out about this, like oh my gosh,
the history, the history of America. They're all so upset.
But the reality is this is a good idea and
(27:58):
the design looks good, and this is for future presidencies
and they will be happy to have it. This from
the Washington Post, which is occasionally, I think, so that
Jeff Bezos doesn't just turn it into like a big
cooking channel or something occasionally tries to be rational. Clay,
I'm going to read from Some of this is from
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the editorial board. This is not from one person. This
is the editorial board. Read you some of this editorial
in Clay, I want you to react, okay. Quote In
classic Trump fashion, the President is pursuing a reasonable idea
in the most jarring, jarring manner possible. Privately, many alumni
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of the Biden and Obama White Houses acknowledge the long
overdue need for an event space like what Trump is creating.
It is absurd that tents need to be erected on
the south lawn for state dinners, and VIPs are forced
to use porta potties. The State eight dining room seats
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one hundred and forty, the East room two hundred. Trump
says the ballroom at the center of his ninety thousand
square foot edition will accommodate nine hundred and ninety nine guests.
The next Democratic president will be happy to have this
one more thing. Preservationists express horror that Trump did not
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submit his plans to their scrutiny. But the truth is
that this project would not have gotten done, certainly not
during his term. If he had gone through a traditional
review process. The blueprints would have been faced by death
by a thousand paper cuts. End quote Clay. As we
have been saying this is sensible. It looks like it
is being well designed and well executed, and the people
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that are saying but both the process the process, the
process to get this done would be insane. It would
take a decade to build this freaking ballroom. And Trump
is getting it done in Trump fashion, which means right away,
there is a big article and and I maybe the
team can look up to make sure which newspaper it is, because.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I again read them every morning, so you don't have
to in either the Wall Street Journal or the New
York Times, which goes into in earnest how this came
to be, And basically the biggest takeaway is there essentially
is no zoning restriction on the White House. So for
all of you out there that have ever built anything,
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typically there are community boards.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
There are cities, there are states.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean sadly, California is a perfect example of this
because almost no one whose home was burned down in
the LA fires has yet been able to get a
permit to be able to start rebuilding. And what the
article points out is that I believe it's the White House,
the Supreme Court, and it's the Capitol building are essentially
(30:51):
zoning free, and the President can just decide that he
wants to remodel. And Trump saw this, couldn't believe it,
and said, okay, well let's do it.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
I mean, he's a builder.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And the article says that as all the way back
at twenty ten buck he called unsolicited David Axelrod. They
said that Mina Brazinski gave Trump David Axelrod's phone number.
He was the Obama chief of staff, I think, and
Trump called in twenty ten and told David Axelrod this
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ballroom situation. Can well imagine when he was just a
reality television star before he had gotten into politics. He said, look,
the ballroom situation is a disgrace. There's no way you
should have to be tenting the south Lawn to be
able to host big events. He said, I want to
build a ballroom for Obama. Back then he just said
(31:44):
for the country. He said, I build beautiful ballrooms. You
can come down and check it out at mar A Lago.
And this is something that he's been obsessed with now
for fifteen years. And to me, what is interesting from
a metaphorical perspective, and this is what drives people crazy,
is Trump is making decisions to a large extent for
things that he will never benefit for personally, because he
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thinks it's better for the country. And this is what
oftentimes builders do. Is I wrote about it quite a
lot in my new book. But when I was at Bedminster,
most recently, when I went with Trump to the NCAA
wrestling tournament, Trump was right around in his golf cart
picking locations for new trees on Bedminster. It's a beautiful
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golf course out there. Some of you have had the
opportunity to play it in New Jersey. He's not going
The thing I love about trees, my wife makes fun
of me for how much I like trees, is if
you ever have been on a property which has beautifully
laid out trees, a perfect lane or an entrance to
a home. Trees are left for the next generations, typically
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not for the individuals who plant them, because it takes
so long for the trees to grow. It's an effort
to try to make the world more beautiful after you're gone.
And Trump with this ballroom, also with Air Force One. Frankly,
he's not really going to benefit much himself. He just
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wants for the United States to have a majestic venue
that befits the majesty of this country, and he's basically
bequeathing it to the nation, even though for most of
the time he's going to be gone when it's being
used by Democrat, Republicans or parties we don't even know
of in the years ahead.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
This is just another I know it's the thousandth, the
millionth example of this, but it's so childish and just
so exhausting to be on the other side of the
childishness that whatever Trump does, we have to say it's horrible.
You know, whatever Trump does, the Washington Democrat media and
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the Democrat machinery and politics, and the left and the
progressives and that they all, oh my god, you're so
terrible what Trump is doing. He's doing something with private
money that will look great, that will be great for
the White House currently and future. That makes sense to
anybody who understands the current situation of the White House.
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And all you'd have to do is sit there and
think this through for a second. You know, if you
want to freak out about Trump, there's a lot of
things that you could find where at least I get,
you know, how they're making an argument about it, or
I get why it bothers them so much. But for this,
it's just another instance of Trump derangement. Syndro muntfull display
the Washington Post editorial. I think it's because at some
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level they recognize that people who know about this White
House are starting to make this argument. And you know,
when you have former Obama staffers who are saying, yeah,
that's a pretty good idea. If that gets out a
lot of people on MSNBC, the people on Morning Joe,
we're acting like Trump is is bulldozing the louver. They
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got the guys, by the way, we should probably that
maybe maybe official Well I haven't seen that they officially
officially got the guys yet.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I mean, I know they made a rest, but they haven't.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
We think it was the guy in the photo who
looks like the fancy French detective you know that photo. Like, no,
but there's a there's a that's not really inspectorcluse. So
there's a guy who when they in the you know
what I'm talking about, there was an outside the louver. Oh,
there's some guy who's a French detective who looks like
if you were casting a French detective. Unless this is
(35:35):
AI guys, I don't know. I don't know what the
You cannot get mad Ai because some of these photos.
Now with the Ai, you're gonna have a really good
eye and you'll miss it. So maybe that's what I'm
thinking of. On the ballroom, did you see that? Swallwell tweeted?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
This is Congressman Swallwell from California, He of the Feng
Fang dallions, Chinese spy. Don't even think of seeking the
Democrat nomination for president unless you pledge to take a
wrecking ball to the Trump ballroom on all caps day one.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I just.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Is he actually this dumb?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I mean, the ballroom is going to be a phenomenal
edifice for all parties to be able to host. I
might mention also, Buck and I would imagine a much
safer way. I can't imagine that having tents on the
South lawn is an ideal security mechanism for all of
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the heads of state, to say nothing of the difficulty
associated with it. And again, Trump has been trying to
get this done since before he was a politician. Fifteen
years ago, he called up when Obama was in office
and said, Hey, let me build a really great ballroom
for the country. And now this just comes back to
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he's just trying to solve as many problems as he
possibly can in what is going to be a relatively
short four year term. And he's a builder. I think
you can criticize him for a lot. You've been in
the mar Alago Ballroom. We did chose from basically there.
It's a spectacular hosting event location. This is an incredible
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gift that Trump is giving to the country, and again
every president for the rest of our lives will be
able to use it, no matter what political party they're in,
for the betterment of the overall hosting facilities at the
White House. It's just a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yes, you would think that Democrats would be so excited
that now they will have a massive White House venue
to host drag Queen Story Hour, you know, like you
would think that they would see that this will soon
be the shoe, so to speak, will be on the
other foot, and that they would be in a position
to use this for their own purposes, and that it
makes a lot of sense and it's a smart thing
to do, and it's good for security as well, which
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you and I pointed out, much better than having a
tent on the lawn. That's not something that you really
want to continue to mess around with. So it makes
sense in every respect. But Democrats hated it because Trump
was doing it. But now they're having to figure out that,
like so many things that Trump has done that they hated,
they just hated it because Trump was doing it, And maybe,
just maybe they should grow up and pick and choose
(38:21):
their battles and say, hmmm, nice, the guy who's famous
for building incredible towers, incredible buildings all over the world,
the golf courses, all this stuff. Maybe he knows what
he's doing on this one like he does on a
whole bunch of other things. You know that they could
take a deep breath, but they're not there yet. Eventually, Clay,
when we get it, when we get past the midterms
and we start seeing them, we start talking about whether
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it's going to be the advance Rubio ticket. This is
where they'll start to say things. They'll mutter under their
breath and then louder and louder over time. Well, that
thing Trump did was actually pretty good, you know, it
kind of made some sense. You know, Then the truth
will be able to be said about some of these things,
like the ball room, which is coming along very well.
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