August 31, 2025 • 40 mins
In this explosive episode of the Team 47 Podcast, Clay and Buck dive deep into President Donald Trump’s aggressive crime reduction strategy in Washington, D.C., highlighting a historic 12-day murder-free streak and an 87% drop in carjackings following the deployment of the National Guard. The hosts explore Trump’s broader plan to replicate this federal intervention in high-crime cities like Chicago and Baltimore, contrasting his law-and-order approach with what they describe as Democratic inaction and ideological resistance. The episode features sharp criticism of Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson’s refusal to endorse increased policing, a powerful personal testimony from a crime victim in D.C., and a comparative analysis of El Salvador’s dramatic crime turnaround under President Nayib Bukele.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Trump in the Oval office, President of South Korea scheduled
to visit with him. And this is what Trump said
just a few moments ago about the crime situation in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is cut three.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Everybody before me is happy what I'm doing. Most of
you won't say that because you're radical left. The newspapers
are so dishonest. The press is totally dishonest. But that's
all right. We've got used to it, and we wanted
a landslide, so they obviously lost their power. I mean,
it's impossible to imagine that when you get ninety seven
percent negative stories, purposely negative stories, even though you've done
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ninety seven percent positive things, that they could think you
could win an election in a landslide, winning all seven
think of it, all seven swing stays, winning the popular
vote by millions of votes. We had a fantastic The
best is your districts. Out of three thousand districts, I
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guess we won three thousand, five hundred. We won two thousand,
seven hundred and fifty. And they won five hundred, and
that's said to me the best of all.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, buck, It's becoming, I think, increasingly difficult to argue
that the surge of support for National Guard and DC
police and everything else isn't having an impact. I don't
think it's totally arbitrary that we've gone eleven or twelve
days without a murder in the summer, something they can't
find a record of in DC going back decades. Obviously,
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crime tends to skyrocket in the summer weather. It's good
people have more free time, kids are out of school.
All of that is when typical violence is at its
peak all over the nation. Kind of feels like Trump
may well have made his point in DC, and I
love the idea of going into Chicago, Baltimore, other cities
with high crime rates and trying to see, hey, can
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we save some more lives.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The street continues in DC. The harder it is for
those opposed to this to continue to oppose it without
looking like their pro murdered, pro crime. You know, there
have been a lot of people, I think who in
the media have been chastened already by their response. They
completely misunderstand the mood of the American people. We went
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through this phase, we went through the Soros DA BLM era,
and we've decided enough is enough. And by we I
mean a solid majority of all of the American people.
And that is I think something that Democrats haven't figured
out how to handle politically. What do they do? Because
to turn around and face reality is to say that
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Republicans have been right all along. To turn around and
to accept that the policies that we've been advocating for
for years not only would result in better numbers for crime,
better streets, better businesses, all that fewer dead people, something
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that everybody, as we've discussed, should be able to get
behind and feel very pleased about. But I think Democrats
continue to have this problem and they can't escape the
radical left. They can't escape the loud voices that were
directing policy and their party for years. And now here
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we are. Here is Brandon Johnson, the mayor. You mentioned Chicago.
How that could be next? Here is the mayor of Chicago.
This is cut eight play it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
What he is proposing at this point would be the
most flagrant violation of our constitution in the twenty first century.
The city of Chicago does not need a military occupation.
That's not what we need. In fact, we've been very
clear about what we need. We need to invest people
to ensure that we can build safe and affordable communities.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's just promising more communism, and really more communism rooted
in race instead of class. Invest in people. Yeah, tax
the people who are productive and earn more, squander that
money on useless government programs that do nothing for really anybody.
And when it comes to crime, and more of the same.
And so you have to ask yourself, if you live
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in a place like Chicago Clay that had six hundred
and twenty one murders in twenty twenty three, do you.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Want more of the same. That's what the mayor is offering.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I think it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend the status quo.
And I give President Trump a lot of credit for
changing the narrative here, because it's been fairly easy for
presidents to go into the White House and just pretend
that Washington, DC is all fine and dandy around them,
even though the violent crime rate has been extraordinarily high,
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and Trump has already weighed in on the mayor of
Chicago member, maybe it's bumped up a bit since then
the mayor of Chicago had a six percent approval rating
in the city of Chicago. I want to repeat that
six is in five plus one. I've never seen a
mayoral approval rating that low. Everyone hates this guy. I
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think the job he's done. If we put my name
on the do you.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Think that Mayor Sexton is doing a good job for
I think enough people would just be confused by the
question that I would get more than six percent by
Chicago residents.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I mean, it's almost impossible to get six percent of
people approving of a political official that low, even with
there being a ton of people who've done awful jobs.
Here is Trump on Brandon Johnson. Remember, Chicago actually managed
to get worse. They had Lorie Lightfoot, who was among
the worst mayors in the history of the COVID era.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And they will double down with awful They really did.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
She lost. She lost in the primary to this guy.
Here is here is President Trump discussing that cut for I.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Watched as a very incompetent man from Chicago said, well,
what do they know? They only arrested nine people. I
said nine people. We didn't rest nine people. We actually
arrested a total of well over a thousand people. We
took hundreds of guns away from young kids that were
throwing them around like it was candy. We apprehended the
scores of illegal aliens. We seized dozens of illegal firearms.
(06:26):
There have been zero murders. It sounds sort of terrible
to say, it's embarrassing. I did this over the weekend.
I'm making a speech and I acted like I was
so proud as I said, We've had zero murders in
the last week, and some of these people were from
foreign countries. They said, that doesn't sound so good, and
I said, well, it doesn't sound good, but Washington was
the most dangerous place in this country, and now you
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know what, it's probably the safest place in our contrayt.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, it is pretty extraordinary, and I get it
data sets can be somewhat arbitrary, but I think it's
it's really hard as we sit at eleven or twelve days,
coming up on two weeks, coming through weekends when violence
tends to peak because people are out in the streets more,
I think it's really hard to argue that this lower
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rate of violent crime is not directly connected to what
Trump has done every day where the crime stays down,
it becomes harder as you get a larger data set.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I also think we should look to our distance south
a little bit here and give credit where it is due.
The president of El Salvador, Naye Bukeli, ran the experiment.
In the most stark obvious possible terms. Al Salvador was
a top five and in one year, I think at
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clave was per capita number one, per capita number one
or number two, murder capital as a nation of the world. Yes,
for you know, this doesn't include civil wars obviously, or
war right, this is criminal homicides inside of the borders
of a country that still function as a country. But
it was pretty much the murder capital of the world
more or less. Now it's the safest country in Latin America,
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the safest country in all of Latin America. And he
did this in a matter of years.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
What was the miracle? He said, you know what, we
know who the bad people are, and we're just going
to stop allowing them to do bad things, and we're
going to punish them and we're going to take them
out of broader society full stop.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
And look what he did.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The biggest from the worst to the best in all
of Latin America. And now we look at our American
cities and we see places. You know, we just talked
about Chicago. What did I say, six hundred murders in
twenty twenty three, fifty percent more murders the New York City,
which has four times the people, so fifty percent more
homicides one fourth of the population. That's okay. The Chicago,
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the Chicago political establishment thinks that that's an acceptable situation.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
My host El Salvador, no doubt, my home state of Memphis. Uh,
the city here in my home state had more murders
than New York City.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Think about how crazy, straight.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Up right had to head comparison to head head to head.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
In recent years, Memphis, Tennessee had more murders than New
York City. How is that acceptable?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Again?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I've said if I were governor, I would follow the
lead of Trump. I would send in the state National Guard.
I would make this end. And I think what did
I say when we started this that it was an
interesting test case. And we talked about this buck We said,
if it works, it's going to prove that there just
hasn't been the will to drive down violent crime. And
(09:34):
now that the violent crime is going down and you're
using Washington d C as a test case. This is
where I got attacked for saying, hey, this is a
really good opportunity to see if it works, that if
it does, it should spread. And I never thought that
I would get attacked in the media for saying, hey,
let's drive down the murder rate, let's save more lives.
I did, But Trump is actually just saying I'm not
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going to stand for this. And I do think it's
connected to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Washington,
d C. But more than that, I think Trump wants
d C to be a jewel of America. I saw
where he's gonna ask for more money to basically retrofit
and rehabilitate many of the great parks in d C
to make it a true diamond of American life.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And so how d d C as a place as
a location, maybe not so much in the summertime, is
a beautiful place, and there should be something aspirational when
children from Oklahoma and Washington State and you know, and
Illinois and you name it, southern California, when they go
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to d C on that school trip, which I know
so many of you. Everyone should think, Wow, what an
incredible jewel of a city with so much history and
gorgeous architecture and clean, safe streets. This stuff matters. This
stuff matters, and I think that Trump is I love this.
I think this is fantastic idea, and I hope that
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he continues.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I do think there is a story that is becoming
pretty intriguing, and it is Joe Scarborough probably and potentially
still smarting from the public humiliation that he suffered because
he said that Joe Biden twenty twenty four was just
as good of a Biden as he had ever seen,
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in fact, the best version of Biden. And after the
June twenty seventh debate, I think Joe Scarborough was embarrassed
on a level that it's hard to be embarrassed in
public prognostication. And I think he has decided a bit
to go to war with the diehard nbcview MSNBC viewing audience. Remember,
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he and Mika initially were very favorable with Trump, then
that relationship turn negative. Then they went and kissed the
ring after Trump won reelection, which led many of the
people in the NBC audience to be furious. The MSNBC
audience has not been galvanized this time by the Trump administration.
(12:16):
In fact, audience ratings have continued to be weak and
to frankly collapse. And maybe that has emboldened Joe Scarborough
to actually start being a journalist. Because Buck, you shared
this this morning, I went and watched and I got
to give Joe Scarborough credit he had on Chicago may
Or Brandon Johnson and let's set the table here, I
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think brilliantly in the summer months here, Trump has changed
the agenda from from basically tariffs and worrying about the
economy because we're at records stock market highs, and he
has said we're going to go to war with violent crime,
and DC was the first place that he decided to
(12:58):
bring out the National Goal. I believe we are now
and correct me if I'm wrong, Team, I think we're
at either day twelve or day thirteen without a murder
in DC. Overall crime rates have fallen precipitously, and now
Trump is talking about bringing the National Guard to Chicago
and Baltimore and other American cities that he believes have
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far too high of a crime rate, and Joe Scarborough
asked Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson this morning on MSNBC a
very simple question, would having more police officers make the
city of Chicago safer? And I want to play. I'm
(13:41):
going to call for each of these in succession. I
want to play you the mayor of Chicago refusing to
answer if more police officers would make the city safer?
Here is part one.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Would you also like to get federal funding to help
put five thousand more cops.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
On the street in Chicago? Would that help drive down crime?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Well, Look, policing by itself is not the full strategy.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
I understand here if you've talked about the other things
you want, and I said, those are good and important programs.
But I'm asking also, would five thousand more police officers
on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along
with all of those social programs And a lot of
cities are engaging in and having success with.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Look, here's the best play I can put it, Joe,
is that in the nineties when I was in high school,
we had three thousand more police officers and we had
nine hundred people being murdered every single year in Chicago.
It's just not policing alone.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Okay, this continues.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
The way we set this up is would more cops
be helpful? Joe Scarborough is actually conceding as part of
his questioning. Here, he says, if we give you all
the money you want for your violence interrupters, for your
your you know, community organizers, for your all these, by
the way, things that do absolutely nothing, I know you'll
(15:05):
find some radicals. We'll say, oh my gosh, the history
of violence interrupters. Please give me a break. Okay, social workers,
He says, With all that, would you also want more cops?
And now, Claire you can continue to work through that.
It's astonishing this guy, the Mayor of Chicago. Here is
part two.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, he of the recent six
percent approval rating, asked again, yes or no? Would five
thousand cops help MSNBC this morning?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Of course?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Of course I know it's not, but I know it's
not policing alone.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You've told me everything else you want.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
I'm curious and this is this does come down to
an ideological difference between between people.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you believe that the streets in.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Chicago would be safer if there were more uniformed police
officers on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I believe the city of Chicago is the cities across America,
would be safer if we actually had, you know, affordable housing.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Look, that's not the question. I asked my question, and
I just idiots or no.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Do you believe the streets of Chicago would be safer
if you got all of those other extraordinary programs put
back into place, which do have.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
A history of being successful. If if that's complimented by
having five thousand more cops on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I don't believe that we should narrow it down to
just police officers. On what I'm saying, that is an
antiquittit approach.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Okay, it continues, buck, and I just think I gotta
give Scotch Joe Scarborough credit. He sounds a bit like
me back in the day with Mike Pints, when you
just can't get an answer from a question that you
think is actually an important one. Here is more Brandon Johnson,
mayor of Chicago, having his feet held to the fire
on a simple question, Hey, would more cops help cut three?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I'm saying you've invested in mister Marra, hearing what I'm saying,
I'm agreeing with you that all of these other social
programs are extraordinarily important. I just need a yes or
a no, and then this will be the last time
I ask if you get all of those other social
programs that that eight hundred million that New York City does,
Los Angeles and other people do with great success, would
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an additional five thousand cops on the streets in Chicago
help compliment those programs to make Chicago safer?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Look, we are working hard to make sure that our
police department is fully supported. I don't believe that just
simply putting out an arbitrary number around police officers is
the answer. What I'm saying is policing and affordable housing
is policing, and mental and behavior healthcare services is policing
and youth employment.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okaylay is important. I think Joe Scarborough is basically begging
this guys banking. He's like, hey, moron, I'll give you
everything else you want. Will pretend all these programs that
don't do a darn thing in any of these places
that anyone can measure will also be in place here.
But can you just say more cops would help with
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the crime problem. Could you please just say it? He
won't say it the mayor, And it's because the mayor
of Chicago is anti cop. He's anti law enforcement. He
thinks cops are the problem. He thinks the crime in
the south and west sides of Chicago, where there are
a lot of homicides, even for an American city, a
lot of homicides going on. He thinks that the issue
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is mass incarceration and over policing Clay.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
That's the bottom line. And he won't change his mind.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yes, and I think this is brilliant of Trump. I
just think it is absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And I.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Am staggered at the stupidity of Democrats responding to this.
Trump is trying to lower violent crime. In so doing,
he is going to save more black lives by far
than anyone who marched in BLM protests and argued for
(19:15):
defunding the police ever did in fact that cost black lives.
And most of you out there, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight,
male female, all of you say, yeah, more cops would help.
Why can Democrats not say it? Because the base of
the Democrat party still believes that police are the problem.
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They believe a lie. And I think this is why
Trump has cut through the noise and the results here.
You know, we sometimes talk Buck, and I think it's
important that there are two tracks on everything. Is it
politically smart and does it actually make the country better?
Sometimes those don't overlap. Here they do. It's both smart
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and the country is better if we lower the overall
rate of violent crime. And Trump has cut through the noise.
And right now the debate we're having in the summer
of his first term is should we have more police?
And is Trump trying to lower a violent crime too aggressively?
It's brilliant. I just I got to give him credit
(20:21):
for it. It is absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
There was an exchange. Now, it might be a little
hard to hear the reporter for some of you out there,
so we'll fill in a bit of it because this
was an exchange of back and forth. You'll be able
to hear Trump, obviously, but the reporter.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
But I wanted to hear a.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Reporter tells the story of how she was mugged in Washington, DC,
and wanted you to hear how this went play thirty
three two years ago.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Was a Saturday one and rock Daylight was all my
way to work, and a young man with a last
as pointed a gun in my face and threatened me
to hand over my phone, my wallet, my laptop and
everything else. And when I refused, he used the butt
of his headgun to strike me across the face the
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cheek or what some people call him pistol with me
before running away. That has deeply traumatized myself and my
family ever since. I've never dared to walk in the
street of DC at night ever, and my family was
extremely worried. So, mister President, thank you so.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Much for what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
A rank.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I'm being honest.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Such incidents involved not just me, but also my family.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
If he had shot.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Me, I could have died right there in the middle
of nowhere, without my family's or my friends knowing. At
the age of back then, I think twenty twenty three, right, just.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Starting my career here in.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
DC, without even starting a family, and now they're blessed
to have this appributy.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
So you had a gun pointed in your head, and
you probably figured that he's gonna pull the trigger because
these our animal so don't know what the hell. They
couldn't care less. The pulling the trigger to him is
a very minor event, and I'm sure he's done that before.
So how did you and you and you did refuse
to give it, which would probably maybe somebody would say
that was not the right decision, right, But you refused
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but I understand that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So and then he hit you real hard. Yes, okay, Clay,
this is here's a reporter I saw in the exchanience.
She's she looks to be an Asian American.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
She's a y or that the Epic Times. I believe
some people may get that newspaper weekly. I believe that
goes out many different places.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yes, so he's a young woman. She's not not physically large,
formidable person, versal woman. And beyond that, you know, she's
not somebody who would be in a particularly strong position
to defend herself broad daylight. Guy with a ski mask
pulls a gun, says I'm gonna murder you if you
don't give me your stuff, and then he pistol whips
her in the face.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
People hear stories like this in d C.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Clay, and you know what the response is, Oh yeah,
I know a few other people that that's happened to.
And remember this is happening in the nice neighborhoods. Indeed,
she she's talking, I could probably tell you. I'm just
guessing you probably living like Adams Morgan or something. We're
talking about in northwest d C. This stuff happens. We're
not even getting into how often this stuff goes on
in southeast DC. And and here Trump actually continues on
(23:24):
this extrage. So I just wanted you to hear what's
going on here Here Trump continues with this. You want
to jump in. Oh sorry, no, no, no, no, I'm
much less serious news. But I've lost a major bet
with my wife. So I was just texting her during
the Well, that's not as I thought. You lost a
(23:44):
bet with me, And I was gonna say on the phone,
stop depressed.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
That's that's always good news.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
This is all very serious.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift just got engaged and
I just got texted about it. So this is gonna
take over all the pop culture news. We're gonna put
a pin in that one. We're gonna go back to you.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That was my face reacting to the.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Usually US news we can read I can read his
face usually, and I know when he's he's fired up
and to make a point whatever. And he's an honest guy,
and he's telling you we're having a very serious, important discussion,
and he's fired up that he lost a bet over
Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Honest man. We'll come back
to that, Clay, We'll you. We'll let you wait on
that in a second. Let's get back here to this woman.
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This reporter pistol whipped in the face.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Uh, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So remember, there's also the trauma of these things that
lingers with individuals.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Especially for a woman to be attacked like.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
This ms beat trauma for a guy too, but for
a woman to be attacked like this broad daylight guy
has a ski mask on, and Trump and the reporter
continued to exchange play thirty four.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's really amazing that you weren't shot.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
That I'm very.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Blessed, and that's why having this opportunity to stand or
to share my story today. One, I'm very grateful for
God for allowing me to still survive to this day,
but also to miss the president.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Thank you for now making DC say thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
For us, for our families, for my parents on my
behalf of my parents, and now my.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Baby on the way.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
There are other reporters and journalists and good people, and
you don't have to say it, but that have also
been attacked violently and not violently too pretty badly. But
and I'll bet you see a big difference in the
streets right now. And this is only twelve days. But
people to tell me they're going out to dinner now
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they haven't. I told to serve my friend. But I
have a lot of friends that are going out to
dinner all the time now in DC, and they weren't.
They weren't doing it twelve days ago. They would never
even think. One of my friends went out five times.
It was four times the last time I told Now
it's five times, he said. But I love going out
to dinner. And restaurants are starting to open again. A
lot of them close because you know, they were Nobody
(26:05):
wanted to go into a restaurant. Nobody wanted to get
to a restaurant or even sit in the restaurant. But
you see a big difference now, don't you.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
I do at hospital, the education every day on my
way home, and do feelosty for seeing the trucks right outside,
seeing the National Guard troops members right outside, just maybe
feel like I'm hopeful about jan and one day hopefully
we can raise our family here.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think this is fantastic, and there's going to be
a lot of criticism because we've got to cut and
I want to play it. This is cut tin. A
woman at the DNC yesterday saying, ho home, there's not
actually crimes like this because this is now where Democrats
are relegated. Cut ten, Where does Trump go?
Speaker 10 (26:52):
Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, awful stuff that is
a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take the bait because most
America are more worried about how are we going to
address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see
on streets, and how do we deal with mental health
and other issues that drive the sort of random incidents
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that scare all of us. That's what you should be
talking about. That's where you should be focused. Don't take
the bait and talking about migrant crime or carjackings or
the things that actually don't matter to that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Many Americans don't take the bait on violent crime mattering
to that many Americans, and I do think again, this
woman's story is echoed by almost everybody that is listening
to us in the country. Somewhere in a city, somewhere
in your state, innocent people are being victimized by crime.
(27:47):
And Trump has just said no longer, We're not going
to stand for this, and buck twelve days since a
murder happened in Washington, DC. At some point there will
be a murder. But when I see twelve days, based
on the history of Washington, d C in the summer
over decades, at some point you have to start to say, hey,
(28:09):
maybe this is not a total statistical anomaly. Maybe Trump
really is starting to drive down violent crime in Washington,
d C. And this is why it's ultimately scary to
Democrats because if Trump can do this, Trump shut down
the border. Remember the whole story that we heard for
years was Congress has to act in order for there
(28:31):
to be border security. Trump showed up and shut down
the border security. And I think what's happening now with
DC violent crime is Democrats are becoming terrified.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Chicago.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We started off, Baltimore, Memphis, Kansas City, New Orleans, whatever
city you want to point to with a huge violent
crime rate. It's a failure of will, it's a failure
of caring enough to actually drive down crime. We can
do it.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
If you look at what most of the homicides are
in a place like Washington, DC. They are not you know,
it's not like people are having a random property dispute
and they both pull out guns or something. It's overwhelmingly
drug slash, gang related and theft, slash, armed robbery crime related. Right.
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I mean, this is people are being shot because someone's
trying to take something from them, or people are being
shot and or shooting at each other because they want
to be able to sell drugs in a certain area
without competition. I mean, this is what drives most of
the homicides in a place like Washington, DC, in a
lot of places across the country. Those things can be
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made more difficult if there are more law enforcement officers
on the streets and if they are told that arrests
will be turned over to prosecutors who will do something
with those arrests.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
That's a huge component of this. Remember on order Dundunton.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, it's about the police to investigate crimes and
the prosecutors who bring them to bring the offenders to
justice in a court. It has to be a one
to two punch. But Clay, of course, you can address
these things. You make it harder for somebody to get
away with going and doing a drive by shooting on
a rival's turf. You make it harder for somebody to
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think I'm going to put on a ski mask, as
was done to this young female reporter and in broad daylight,
pull out a gun and smack you in the face
with it and think that I'm going to get away.
This is really straightforward stuff, and I like that Trump
is doing this for the reasons we've all discussed about
saving lives and helping people and making the streets better.
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But also he just don't let Democrats squirm out on
this one. Don't let them get away with what they're
doing here, which is they are defending the status quo
of unacceptable criminality in American cities. That's what they are doing.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And again, days without a murder, are they going to
be in a position where they're actually now rooting for
murders to occur. This is why the Trump move is
so brilliant, both politically and also morally right sometimes, thankfully,
these things overlap where you can do the right thing politically, Hey,
we should have less crime. That's something Republicans should be behind.
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And also morally because even the people that Trump is protecting,
remember almost none of them voted for him. DC was
of what ninety five to five voting for Democrats. It's
taken a Republican president to be willing to say I'm
going to make you safer. And it's not necessarily politically
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beneficial in Washington, d C. For Trump. These are people
that are not Republican voter. Same thing Chicago, same thing
in all these different blue cities. But it's just the
right thing to do. It's the right thing to do,
and it's something Democrats should have done. Are unwilling and
Trump looked at it and said, I'm going to fix this.
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Speaker 1 (32:11):
One of the big stories of the last two or
three weeks has been Trump taking over the National Guard
in DC taking over the Metro Police. And I got
to give credit to DC Mayor Muriel Bowser before I
play this buck, you said on the show a couple
of weeks ago, Hey, I kind of think Muriel Bowser
agrees with a lot of what Trump is doing based
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on some of the conversations you had had behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I kind of know someone who knows the mayor really
well and new for a fact, So I wish I
could I wish I could say that I just read
the tea leaves on this one.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
But this was spybuck, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
This was me running running assets behind enemy counter in
counter intel, you had knowledge that the mayor actually agrees
with a lot of the Trump policies on never say
so like that, but yeah, the mayor, Mayor bow would
like DC crime to be lower, and she's very she
wants more business investment, and she wants safer streets, which,
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by the way, good for her. The fact that she
can she say that out loud though in that way,
is telling you a lot about the politics of DC.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
All Right, So we've got Muriel Bowser. He or she
is saying eighty seven percent reduction in carjackings, which were
one of the crimes that had skyrocketed in Washington, d C.
And giving praise to all of the assistants now that
exists in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Cut nineteen.
Speaker 11 (33:32):
We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what
MPD has been able to do in this city for carjackings.
The difference between this period, this twenty day period of
this federal surge and last year represents a eighty seven
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percent reduction in carjackings in Washington. We know that when
carjackings go down, when the use of gun goes down,
when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods feel safer and
are safer. So this surge has been important to us
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for that reason.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You know this srives me. I feel like Trump should
have a Colonel Nathan R. Jessep moment where he's just
like I would rather you just say thank you or
man a post. When it comes to the Democrats who
have opposed Trump on this crime thing, they should just
say I mean, especially the ones who live in DC,
they should just say thank you, because he's right and
it's helping and it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
This is a stat that I thought was staggering. They
pulled the AP so this is not right wing poll you.
The AP Associated Press did a poll they said, do
you think that crime is out of control basically a
major issue in big cities in America? Eighty one percent
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of people said it was eighty one percent buck eighteen
percent said it's an issue, but it's a minor issue,
not a major issue. So ninety nine percent of Americans
say that big city crime is either a major eighty
one percent or minor eighteen percent issue.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
One percent of people said it's not an issue.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Democrats have hooked their wagon, hooked their horses to the
wagon of crime is not that big of a deal.
It's actually way better than you think. Trump is a
dictator because he's trying to drive down crime. I just
got to give tremendous credit to Trump for his political
instincts and being totally and completely wrong right on this.
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And I got to give Mayor Muriel Bowser this is
how real politicians should work, I understand. And if they
have disagreements, they have two different political parties, all those things.
Conflict is not bad when it's rational, reasonable conflict about
the direction that something should go.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Crime should not be an issue of conflict.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
We should all as you just heard me say. The
AP says ninety nine percent of people say crime is
even either a major minor issue in big cities in America.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Maybe maybe Trump is just right.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
About this issue, and it's better if there's less violent crime.
Buck eighty seven percent decline in carjackings, do you know,
everybody out there, carjackings aren't an incredibly violent crime. You
are using a weapon, generally speaking, to get someone who
is in a car, dragging them out, forcing them out.
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Sometimes there are kids involved, babies if you have car seats,
it's not like you can easily get a child out.
It happens every now and then. A carjacking where there's
still a baby in the back of the car you
take off speeding. A carjacking typically is really four or
five crimes all rolled into one. To knock them down
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by eighty seven percent is flat out extraordinary. And again
I think this just shows that it's not an intractable,
unsolvable problem. The question has just been is there a
will to actually address violent crime?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And with Trump there is and we're seeing the results
which we knew what happened, because it turns out what
is obviously true is obviously true. Look at that more cops,
more resources, less opportunity for criminals to get away with things,
you're going to get less crime. Generally, you get more
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of what you encourage, you get less of what you discourage.
Discouraging the criminal element in DC from doing what they
do is a good thing. And yet here we are
still having so many Democrats pretend that somehow there's something
wrong with Trump's approach on this, in fact, worse than wrong.
I mean they think it is it is, you know, evil,
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it is undermining our sacred democracy. They say all kinds
of crazy stuff. Notice one thing you won't hear them say,
we have a different plan to bring crime down. And
the ones who are foolish enough to actually go there,
like the Mayor of Chicago, their answers, or rather their
their planning is laughable. More social workers has not, will not,
(38:31):
and never will assist in bringing down serious violent crime
in any way you can measure, and in any way
that anybody would consider serious. So they don't have an alternative.
So really, what the Democrats have is because we don't
want law enforcement to seem racist, and because we don't
want Trump to seem correct, and we certainly don't want
to have to admit we're wrong as Democrats, we would
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rather more people be carjacked, more people be shot, and
bad things continue to happen in American cities. Then would
happen if we just let Republicans like Trump do what
they want to do and do what they know should
be done.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
That's as simple as this is clay. That's it. You know.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It's just like we said with the Biden border. You
either deport people and discourage legal crossings, or you encourage
it and you get ten million people coming into the country.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
It's very straightforward.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I think deep down Democrats are like, oh, wow, this
is working because I think they really thought, oh, there's
nothing we can do about crime, and I think they're
starting to recognize when you've got ninety nine percent of
people saying it's either a major or minor issue in
big cities in America. I'm not saying the one percent.
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I'm trying to think of something that I would believe
that I would be willing to go to the mat
on that ninety nine percent of people would disagree with me.
I'm not saying the one percent is always wrong. It's
pretty hard to for the one percent argument to win.
You know, if you have a honest, in any way
impartial media, and I think Trump is winning, and I
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think candidly even a lot of left wing journalists who
claim that they hate Trump agree with him on the
DC crime related issue.
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Trump in the Oval office, President of South Korea scheduled
to visit with him. And this is what Trump said
just a few moments ago about the crime situation in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
This is cut three.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Everybody before me is happy what I'm doing. Most of
you won't say that because you're radical left. The newspapers
are so dishonest. The press is totally dishonest. But that's
all right. We've got used to it, and we wanted
a landslide, so they obviously lost their power. I mean,
it's impossible to imagine that when you get ninety seven
percent negative stories, purposely negative stories, even though you've done
(00:49):
ninety seven percent positive things, that they could think you
could win an election in a landslide, winning all seven
think of it, all seven swing stays, winning the popular
vote by millions of votes. We had a fantastic The
best is your districts. Out of three thousand districts, I
(01:09):
guess we won three thousand, five hundred. We won two thousand,
seven hundred and fifty. And they won five hundred, and
that's said to me the best of all.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, buck, It's becoming, I think, increasingly difficult to argue
that the surge of support for National Guard and DC
police and everything else isn't having an impact. I don't
think it's totally arbitrary that we've gone eleven or twelve
days without a murder in the summer, something they can't
find a record of in DC going back decades. Obviously,
(01:43):
crime tends to skyrocket in the summer weather. It's good
people have more free time, kids are out of school.
All of that is when typical violence is at its
peak all over the nation. Kind of feels like Trump
may well have made his point in DC, and I
love the idea of going into Chicago, Baltimore, other cities
with high crime rates and trying to see, hey, can
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we save some more lives.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The street continues in DC. The harder it is for
those opposed to this to continue to oppose it without
looking like their pro murdered, pro crime. You know, there
have been a lot of people, I think who in
the media have been chastened already by their response. They
completely misunderstand the mood of the American people. We went
(02:30):
through this phase, we went through the Soros DA BLM era,
and we've decided enough is enough. And by we I
mean a solid majority of all of the American people.
And that is I think something that Democrats haven't figured
out how to handle politically. What do they do? Because
to turn around and face reality is to say that
(02:52):
Republicans have been right all along. To turn around and
to accept that the policies that we've been advocating for
for years not only would result in better numbers for crime,
better streets, better businesses, all that fewer dead people, something
(03:13):
that everybody, as we've discussed, should be able to get
behind and feel very pleased about. But I think Democrats
continue to have this problem and they can't escape the
radical left. They can't escape the loud voices that were
directing policy and their party for years. And now here
(03:34):
we are. Here is Brandon Johnson, the mayor. You mentioned Chicago.
How that could be next? Here is the mayor of Chicago.
This is cut eight play it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
What he is proposing at this point would be the
most flagrant violation of our constitution in the twenty first century.
The city of Chicago does not need a military occupation.
That's not what we need. In fact, we've been very
clear about what we need. We need to invest people
to ensure that we can build safe and affordable communities.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
He's just promising more communism, and really more communism rooted
in race instead of class. Invest in people. Yeah, tax
the people who are productive and earn more, squander that
money on useless government programs that do nothing for really anybody.
And when it comes to crime, and more of the same.
And so you have to ask yourself, if you live
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in a place like Chicago Clay that had six hundred
and twenty one murders in twenty twenty three, do you.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Want more of the same. That's what the mayor is offering.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I think it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend the status quo.
And I give President Trump a lot of credit for
changing the narrative here, because it's been fairly easy for
presidents to go into the White House and just pretend
that Washington, DC is all fine and dandy around them,
even though the violent crime rate has been extraordinarily high,
(04:56):
and Trump has already weighed in on the mayor of
Chicago member, maybe it's bumped up a bit since then
the mayor of Chicago had a six percent approval rating
in the city of Chicago. I want to repeat that
six is in five plus one. I've never seen a
mayoral approval rating that low. Everyone hates this guy. I
(05:19):
think the job he's done. If we put my name
on the do you.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Think that Mayor Sexton is doing a good job for
I think enough people would just be confused by the
question that I would get more than six percent by
Chicago residents.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I mean, it's almost impossible to get six percent of
people approving of a political official that low, even with
there being a ton of people who've done awful jobs.
Here is Trump on Brandon Johnson. Remember, Chicago actually managed
to get worse. They had Lorie Lightfoot, who was among
the worst mayors in the history of the COVID era.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And they will double down with awful They really did.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
She lost. She lost in the primary to this guy.
Here is here is President Trump discussing that cut for I.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Watched as a very incompetent man from Chicago said, well,
what do they know? They only arrested nine people. I
said nine people. We didn't rest nine people. We actually
arrested a total of well over a thousand people. We
took hundreds of guns away from young kids that were
throwing them around like it was candy. We apprehended the
scores of illegal aliens. We seized dozens of illegal firearms.
(06:26):
There have been zero murders. It sounds sort of terrible
to say, it's embarrassing. I did this over the weekend.
I'm making a speech and I acted like I was
so proud as I said, We've had zero murders in
the last week, and some of these people were from
foreign countries. They said, that doesn't sound so good, and
I said, well, it doesn't sound good, but Washington was
the most dangerous place in this country, and now you
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know what, it's probably the safest place in our contrayt.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, it is pretty extraordinary, and I get it
data sets can be somewhat arbitrary, but I think it's
it's really hard as we sit at eleven or twelve days,
coming up on two weeks, coming through weekends when violence
tends to peak because people are out in the streets more,
I think it's really hard to argue that this lower
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rate of violent crime is not directly connected to what
Trump has done every day where the crime stays down,
it becomes harder as you get a larger data set.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I also think we should look to our distance south
a little bit here and give credit where it is due.
The president of El Salvador, Naye Bukeli, ran the experiment.
In the most stark obvious possible terms. Al Salvador was
a top five and in one year, I think at
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clave was per capita number one, per capita number one
or number two, murder capital as a nation of the world. Yes,
for you know, this doesn't include civil wars obviously, or
war right, this is criminal homicides inside of the borders
of a country that still function as a country. But
it was pretty much the murder capital of the world
more or less. Now it's the safest country in Latin America,
(08:07):
the safest country in all of Latin America. And he
did this in a matter of years.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
What was the miracle? He said, you know what, we
know who the bad people are, and we're just going
to stop allowing them to do bad things, and we're
going to punish them and we're going to take them
out of broader society full stop.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
And look what he did.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The biggest from the worst to the best in all
of Latin America. And now we look at our American
cities and we see places. You know, we just talked
about Chicago. What did I say, six hundred murders in
twenty twenty three, fifty percent more murders the New York City,
which has four times the people, so fifty percent more
homicides one fourth of the population. That's okay. The Chicago,
(08:49):
the Chicago political establishment thinks that that's an acceptable situation.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
My host El Salvador, no doubt, my home state of Memphis. Uh,
the city here in my home state had more murders
than New York City.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Think about how crazy, straight.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Up right had to head comparison to head head to head.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
In recent years, Memphis, Tennessee had more murders than New
York City. How is that acceptable?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Again?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I've said if I were governor, I would follow the
lead of Trump. I would send in the state National Guard.
I would make this end. And I think what did
I say when we started this that it was an
interesting test case. And we talked about this buck We said,
if it works, it's going to prove that there just
hasn't been the will to drive down violent crime. And
(09:34):
now that the violent crime is going down and you're
using Washington d C as a test case. This is
where I got attacked for saying, hey, this is a
really good opportunity to see if it works, that if
it does, it should spread. And I never thought that
I would get attacked in the media for saying, hey,
let's drive down the murder rate, let's save more lives.
I did, But Trump is actually just saying I'm not
(09:55):
going to stand for this. And I do think it's
connected to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of Washington,
d C. But more than that, I think Trump wants
d C to be a jewel of America. I saw
where he's gonna ask for more money to basically retrofit
and rehabilitate many of the great parks in d C
to make it a true diamond of American life.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And so how d d C as a place as
a location, maybe not so much in the summertime, is
a beautiful place, and there should be something aspirational when
children from Oklahoma and Washington State and you know, and
Illinois and you name it, southern California, when they go
(10:40):
to d C on that school trip, which I know
so many of you. Everyone should think, Wow, what an
incredible jewel of a city with so much history and
gorgeous architecture and clean, safe streets. This stuff matters. This
stuff matters, and I think that Trump is I love this.
I think this is fantastic idea, and I hope that
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he continues.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I do think there is a story that is becoming
pretty intriguing, and it is Joe Scarborough probably and potentially
still smarting from the public humiliation that he suffered because
he said that Joe Biden twenty twenty four was just
as good of a Biden as he had ever seen,
(11:29):
in fact, the best version of Biden. And after the
June twenty seventh debate, I think Joe Scarborough was embarrassed
on a level that it's hard to be embarrassed in
public prognostication. And I think he has decided a bit
to go to war with the diehard nbcview MSNBC viewing audience. Remember,
(11:55):
he and Mika initially were very favorable with Trump, then
that relationship turn negative. Then they went and kissed the
ring after Trump won reelection, which led many of the
people in the NBC audience to be furious. The MSNBC
audience has not been galvanized this time by the Trump administration.
(12:16):
In fact, audience ratings have continued to be weak and
to frankly collapse. And maybe that has emboldened Joe Scarborough
to actually start being a journalist. Because Buck, you shared
this this morning, I went and watched and I got
to give Joe Scarborough credit he had on Chicago may
Or Brandon Johnson and let's set the table here, I
(12:38):
think brilliantly in the summer months here, Trump has changed
the agenda from from basically tariffs and worrying about the
economy because we're at records stock market highs, and he
has said we're going to go to war with violent crime,
and DC was the first place that he decided to
(12:58):
bring out the National Goal. I believe we are now
and correct me if I'm wrong, Team, I think we're
at either day twelve or day thirteen without a murder
in DC. Overall crime rates have fallen precipitously, and now
Trump is talking about bringing the National Guard to Chicago
and Baltimore and other American cities that he believes have
(13:21):
far too high of a crime rate, and Joe Scarborough
asked Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson this morning on MSNBC a
very simple question, would having more police officers make the
city of Chicago safer? And I want to play. I'm
(13:41):
going to call for each of these in succession. I
want to play you the mayor of Chicago refusing to
answer if more police officers would make the city safer?
Here is part one.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
Would you also like to get federal funding to help
put five thousand more cops.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
On the street in Chicago? Would that help drive down crime?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Well, Look, policing by itself is not the full strategy.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
I understand here if you've talked about the other things
you want, and I said, those are good and important programs.
But I'm asking also, would five thousand more police officers
on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along
with all of those social programs And a lot of
cities are engaging in and having success with.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Look, here's the best play I can put it, Joe,
is that in the nineties when I was in high school,
we had three thousand more police officers and we had
nine hundred people being murdered every single year in Chicago.
It's just not policing alone.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Okay, this continues.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
The way we set this up is would more cops
be helpful? Joe Scarborough is actually conceding as part of
his questioning. Here, he says, if we give you all
the money you want for your violence interrupters, for your
your you know, community organizers, for your all these, by
the way, things that do absolutely nothing, I know you'll
(15:05):
find some radicals. We'll say, oh my gosh, the history
of violence interrupters. Please give me a break. Okay, social workers,
He says, With all that, would you also want more cops?
And now, Claire you can continue to work through that.
It's astonishing this guy, the Mayor of Chicago. Here is
part two.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, he of the recent six
percent approval rating, asked again, yes or no? Would five
thousand cops help MSNBC this morning?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Of course?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Of course I know it's not, but I know it's
not policing alone.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
You've told me everything else you want.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
I'm curious and this is this does come down to
an ideological difference between between people.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you believe that the streets in.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Chicago would be safer if there were more uniformed police
officers on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I believe the city of Chicago is the cities across America,
would be safer if we actually had, you know, affordable housing.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Look, that's not the question. I asked my question, and
I just idiots or no.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Do you believe the streets of Chicago would be safer
if you got all of those other extraordinary programs put
back into place, which do have.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
A history of being successful. If if that's complimented by
having five thousand more cops on the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I don't believe that we should narrow it down to
just police officers. On what I'm saying, that is an
antiquittit approach.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Okay, it continues, buck, and I just think I gotta
give Scotch Joe Scarborough credit. He sounds a bit like
me back in the day with Mike Pints, when you
just can't get an answer from a question that you
think is actually an important one. Here is more Brandon Johnson,
mayor of Chicago, having his feet held to the fire
on a simple question, Hey, would more cops help cut three?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
I'm saying you've invested in mister Marra, hearing what I'm saying,
I'm agreeing with you that all of these other social
programs are extraordinarily important. I just need a yes or
a no, and then this will be the last time
I ask if you get all of those other social
programs that that eight hundred million that New York City does,
Los Angeles and other people do with great success, would
(17:23):
an additional five thousand cops on the streets in Chicago
help compliment those programs to make Chicago safer?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Look, we are working hard to make sure that our
police department is fully supported. I don't believe that just
simply putting out an arbitrary number around police officers is
the answer. What I'm saying is policing and affordable housing
is policing, and mental and behavior healthcare services is policing
and youth employment.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okaylay is important. I think Joe Scarborough is basically begging
this guys banking. He's like, hey, moron, I'll give you
everything else you want. Will pretend all these programs that
don't do a darn thing in any of these places
that anyone can measure will also be in place here.
But can you just say more cops would help with
(18:16):
the crime problem. Could you please just say it? He
won't say it the mayor, And it's because the mayor
of Chicago is anti cop. He's anti law enforcement. He
thinks cops are the problem. He thinks the crime in
the south and west sides of Chicago, where there are
a lot of homicides, even for an American city, a
lot of homicides going on. He thinks that the issue
(18:36):
is mass incarceration and over policing Clay.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
That's the bottom line. And he won't change his mind.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yes, and I think this is brilliant of Trump. I
just think it is absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
And I.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Am staggered at the stupidity of Democrats responding to this.
Trump is trying to lower violent crime. In so doing,
he is going to save more black lives by far
than anyone who marched in BLM protests and argued for
(19:15):
defunding the police ever did in fact that cost black lives.
And most of you out there, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight,
male female, all of you say, yeah, more cops would help.
Why can Democrats not say it? Because the base of
the Democrat party still believes that police are the problem.
(19:37):
They believe a lie. And I think this is why
Trump has cut through the noise and the results here.
You know, we sometimes talk Buck, and I think it's
important that there are two tracks on everything. Is it
politically smart and does it actually make the country better?
Sometimes those don't overlap. Here they do. It's both smart
(20:00):
and the country is better if we lower the overall
rate of violent crime. And Trump has cut through the noise.
And right now the debate we're having in the summer
of his first term is should we have more police?
And is Trump trying to lower a violent crime too aggressively?
It's brilliant. I just I got to give him credit
(20:21):
for it. It is absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
There was an exchange. Now, it might be a little
hard to hear the reporter for some of you out there,
so we'll fill in a bit of it because this
was an exchange of back and forth. You'll be able
to hear Trump, obviously, but the reporter.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
But I wanted to hear a.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Reporter tells the story of how she was mugged in Washington, DC,
and wanted you to hear how this went play thirty
three two years ago.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
Was a Saturday one and rock Daylight was all my
way to work, and a young man with a last
as pointed a gun in my face and threatened me
to hand over my phone, my wallet, my laptop and
everything else. And when I refused, he used the butt
of his headgun to strike me across the face the
(21:15):
cheek or what some people call him pistol with me
before running away. That has deeply traumatized myself and my
family ever since. I've never dared to walk in the
street of DC at night ever, and my family was
extremely worried. So, mister President, thank you so.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Much for what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
A rank.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I'm being honest.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Such incidents involved not just me, but also my family.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
If he had shot.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
Me, I could have died right there in the middle
of nowhere, without my family's or my friends knowing. At
the age of back then, I think twenty twenty three, right, just.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Starting my career here in.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
DC, without even starting a family, and now they're blessed
to have this appributy.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
So you had a gun pointed in your head, and
you probably figured that he's gonna pull the trigger because
these our animal so don't know what the hell. They
couldn't care less. The pulling the trigger to him is
a very minor event, and I'm sure he's done that before.
So how did you and you and you did refuse
to give it, which would probably maybe somebody would say
that was not the right decision, right, But you refused
(22:17):
but I understand that.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
So and then he hit you real hard. Yes, okay, Clay,
this is here's a reporter I saw in the exchanience.
She's she looks to be an Asian American.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
She's a y or that the Epic Times. I believe
some people may get that newspaper weekly. I believe that
goes out many different places.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yes, so he's a young woman. She's not not physically large,
formidable person, versal woman. And beyond that, you know, she's
not somebody who would be in a particularly strong position
to defend herself broad daylight. Guy with a ski mask
pulls a gun, says I'm gonna murder you if you
don't give me your stuff, and then he pistol whips
her in the face.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
People hear stories like this in d C.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Clay, and you know what the response is, Oh yeah,
I know a few other people that that's happened to.
And remember this is happening in the nice neighborhoods. Indeed,
she she's talking, I could probably tell you. I'm just
guessing you probably living like Adams Morgan or something. We're
talking about in northwest d C. This stuff happens. We're
not even getting into how often this stuff goes on
in southeast DC. And and here Trump actually continues on
(23:24):
this extrage. So I just wanted you to hear what's
going on here Here Trump continues with this. You want
to jump in. Oh sorry, no, no, no, no, I'm
much less serious news. But I've lost a major bet
with my wife. So I was just texting her during
the Well, that's not as I thought. You lost a
(23:44):
bet with me, And I was gonna say on the phone,
stop depressed.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
That's that's always good news.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
This is all very serious.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift just got engaged and
I just got texted about it. So this is gonna
take over all the pop culture news. We're gonna put
a pin in that one. We're gonna go back to you.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
That's what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That was my face reacting to the.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Usually US news we can read I can read his
face usually, and I know when he's he's fired up
and to make a point whatever. And he's an honest guy,
and he's telling you we're having a very serious, important discussion,
and he's fired up that he lost a bet over
Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Honest man. We'll come back
to that, Clay, We'll you. We'll let you wait on
that in a second. Let's get back here to this woman.
(24:30):
This reporter pistol whipped in the face.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Uh, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So remember, there's also the trauma of these things that
lingers with individuals.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Especially for a woman to be attacked like.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
This ms beat trauma for a guy too, but for
a woman to be attacked like this broad daylight guy
has a ski mask on, and Trump and the reporter
continued to exchange play thirty four.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's really amazing that you weren't shot.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
That I'm very.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Blessed, and that's why having this opportunity to stand or
to share my story today. One, I'm very grateful for
God for allowing me to still survive to this day,
but also to miss the president.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Thank you for now making DC say thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
For us, for our families, for my parents on my
behalf of my parents, and now my.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Baby on the way.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
There are other reporters and journalists and good people, and
you don't have to say it, but that have also
been attacked violently and not violently too pretty badly. But
and I'll bet you see a big difference in the
streets right now. And this is only twelve days. But
people to tell me they're going out to dinner now
(25:44):
they haven't. I told to serve my friend. But I
have a lot of friends that are going out to
dinner all the time now in DC, and they weren't.
They weren't doing it twelve days ago. They would never
even think. One of my friends went out five times.
It was four times the last time I told Now
it's five times, he said. But I love going out
to dinner. And restaurants are starting to open again. A
lot of them close because you know, they were Nobody
(26:05):
wanted to go into a restaurant. Nobody wanted to get
to a restaurant or even sit in the restaurant. But
you see a big difference now, don't you.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
I do at hospital, the education every day on my
way home, and do feelosty for seeing the trucks right outside,
seeing the National Guard troops members right outside, just maybe
feel like I'm hopeful about jan and one day hopefully
we can raise our family here.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think this is fantastic, and there's going to be
a lot of criticism because we've got to cut and
I want to play it. This is cut tin. A
woman at the DNC yesterday saying, ho home, there's not
actually crimes like this because this is now where Democrats
are relegated. Cut ten, Where does Trump go?
Speaker 10 (26:52):
Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, awful stuff that is
a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take the bait because most
America are more worried about how are we going to
address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see
on streets, and how do we deal with mental health
and other issues that drive the sort of random incidents
(27:13):
that scare all of us. That's what you should be
talking about. That's where you should be focused. Don't take
the bait and talking about migrant crime or carjackings or
the things that actually don't matter to that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Many Americans don't take the bait on violent crime mattering
to that many Americans, and I do think again, this
woman's story is echoed by almost everybody that is listening
to us in the country. Somewhere in a city, somewhere
in your state, innocent people are being victimized by crime.
(27:47):
And Trump has just said no longer, We're not going
to stand for this, and buck twelve days since a
murder happened in Washington, DC. At some point there will
be a murder. But when I see twelve days, based
on the history of Washington, d C in the summer
over decades, at some point you have to start to say, hey,
(28:09):
maybe this is not a total statistical anomaly. Maybe Trump
really is starting to drive down violent crime in Washington,
d C. And this is why it's ultimately scary to
Democrats because if Trump can do this, Trump shut down
the border. Remember the whole story that we heard for
years was Congress has to act in order for there
(28:31):
to be border security. Trump showed up and shut down
the border security. And I think what's happening now with
DC violent crime is Democrats are becoming terrified.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Chicago.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We started off, Baltimore, Memphis, Kansas City, New Orleans, whatever
city you want to point to with a huge violent
crime rate. It's a failure of will, it's a failure
of caring enough to actually drive down crime. We can
do it.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
If you look at what most of the homicides are
in a place like Washington, DC. They are not you know,
it's not like people are having a random property dispute
and they both pull out guns or something. It's overwhelmingly
drug slash, gang related and theft, slash, armed robbery crime related. Right.
(29:22):
I mean, this is people are being shot because someone's
trying to take something from them, or people are being
shot and or shooting at each other because they want
to be able to sell drugs in a certain area
without competition. I mean, this is what drives most of
the homicides in a place like Washington, DC, in a
lot of places across the country. Those things can be
(29:45):
made more difficult if there are more law enforcement officers
on the streets and if they are told that arrests
will be turned over to prosecutors who will do something
with those arrests.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
That's a huge component of this. Remember on order Dundunton.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
You know, it's about the police to investigate crimes and
the prosecutors who bring them to bring the offenders to
justice in a court. It has to be a one
to two punch. But Clay, of course, you can address
these things. You make it harder for somebody to get
away with going and doing a drive by shooting on
a rival's turf. You make it harder for somebody to
(30:22):
think I'm going to put on a ski mask, as
was done to this young female reporter and in broad daylight,
pull out a gun and smack you in the face
with it and think that I'm going to get away.
This is really straightforward stuff, and I like that Trump
is doing this for the reasons we've all discussed about
saving lives and helping people and making the streets better.
(30:43):
But also he just don't let Democrats squirm out on
this one. Don't let them get away with what they're
doing here, which is they are defending the status quo
of unacceptable criminality in American cities. That's what they are doing.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And again, days without a murder, are they going to
be in a position where they're actually now rooting for
murders to occur. This is why the Trump move is
so brilliant, both politically and also morally right sometimes, thankfully,
these things overlap where you can do the right thing politically, Hey,
we should have less crime. That's something Republicans should be behind.
(31:20):
And also morally because even the people that Trump is protecting,
remember almost none of them voted for him. DC was
of what ninety five to five voting for Democrats. It's
taken a Republican president to be willing to say I'm
going to make you safer. And it's not necessarily politically
(31:41):
beneficial in Washington, d C. For Trump. These are people
that are not Republican voter. Same thing Chicago, same thing
in all these different blue cities. But it's just the
right thing to do. It's the right thing to do,
and it's something Democrats should have done. Are unwilling and
Trump looked at it and said, I'm going to fix this.
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Speaker 1 (32:11):
One of the big stories of the last two or
three weeks has been Trump taking over the National Guard
in DC taking over the Metro Police. And I got
to give credit to DC Mayor Muriel Bowser before I
play this buck, you said on the show a couple
of weeks ago, Hey, I kind of think Muriel Bowser
agrees with a lot of what Trump is doing based
(32:32):
on some of the conversations you had had behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I kind of know someone who knows the mayor really
well and new for a fact, So I wish I
could I wish I could say that I just read
the tea leaves on this one.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
But this was spybuck, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
This was me running running assets behind enemy counter in
counter intel, you had knowledge that the mayor actually agrees
with a lot of the Trump policies on never say
so like that, but yeah, the mayor, Mayor bow would
like DC crime to be lower, and she's very she
wants more business investment, and she wants safer streets, which,
(33:07):
by the way, good for her. The fact that she
can she say that out loud though in that way,
is telling you a lot about the politics of DC.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
All Right, So we've got Muriel Bowser. He or she
is saying eighty seven percent reduction in carjackings, which were
one of the crimes that had skyrocketed in Washington, d C.
And giving praise to all of the assistants now that
exists in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Cut nineteen.
Speaker 11 (33:32):
We greatly appreciate the surge of officers that enhance what
MPD has been able to do in this city for carjackings.
The difference between this period, this twenty day period of
this federal surge and last year represents a eighty seven
(33:55):
percent reduction in carjackings in Washington. We know that when
carjackings go down, when the use of gun goes down,
when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods feel safer and
are safer. So this surge has been important to us
(34:15):
for that reason.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You know this srives me. I feel like Trump should
have a Colonel Nathan R. Jessep moment where he's just
like I would rather you just say thank you or
man a post. When it comes to the Democrats who
have opposed Trump on this crime thing, they should just
say I mean, especially the ones who live in DC,
they should just say thank you, because he's right and
it's helping and it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
This is a stat that I thought was staggering. They
pulled the AP so this is not right wing poll you.
The AP Associated Press did a poll they said, do
you think that crime is out of control basically a
major issue in big cities in America? Eighty one percent
(35:01):
of people said it was eighty one percent buck eighteen
percent said it's an issue, but it's a minor issue,
not a major issue. So ninety nine percent of Americans
say that big city crime is either a major eighty
one percent or minor eighteen percent issue.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
One percent of people said it's not an issue.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Democrats have hooked their wagon, hooked their horses to the
wagon of crime is not that big of a deal.
It's actually way better than you think. Trump is a
dictator because he's trying to drive down crime. I just
got to give tremendous credit to Trump for his political
instincts and being totally and completely wrong right on this.
(35:52):
And I got to give Mayor Muriel Bowser this is
how real politicians should work, I understand. And if they
have disagreements, they have two different political parties, all those things.
Conflict is not bad when it's rational, reasonable conflict about
the direction that something should go.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Crime should not be an issue of conflict.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
We should all as you just heard me say. The
AP says ninety nine percent of people say crime is
even either a major minor issue in big cities in America.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Maybe maybe Trump is just right.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
About this issue, and it's better if there's less violent crime.
Buck eighty seven percent decline in carjackings, do you know,
everybody out there, carjackings aren't an incredibly violent crime. You
are using a weapon, generally speaking, to get someone who
is in a car, dragging them out, forcing them out.
(36:46):
Sometimes there are kids involved, babies if you have car seats,
it's not like you can easily get a child out.
It happens every now and then. A carjacking where there's
still a baby in the back of the car you
take off speeding. A carjacking typically is really four or
five crimes all rolled into one. To knock them down
(37:06):
by eighty seven percent is flat out extraordinary. And again
I think this just shows that it's not an intractable,
unsolvable problem. The question has just been is there a
will to actually address violent crime?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And with Trump there is and we're seeing the results
which we knew what happened, because it turns out what
is obviously true is obviously true. Look at that more cops,
more resources, less opportunity for criminals to get away with things,
you're going to get less crime. Generally, you get more
(37:44):
of what you encourage, you get less of what you discourage.
Discouraging the criminal element in DC from doing what they
do is a good thing. And yet here we are
still having so many Democrats pretend that somehow there's something
wrong with Trump's approach on this, in fact, worse than wrong.
I mean they think it is it is, you know, evil,
(38:07):
it is undermining our sacred democracy. They say all kinds
of crazy stuff. Notice one thing you won't hear them say,
we have a different plan to bring crime down. And
the ones who are foolish enough to actually go there,
like the Mayor of Chicago, their answers, or rather their
their planning is laughable. More social workers has not, will not,
(38:31):
and never will assist in bringing down serious violent crime
in any way you can measure, and in any way
that anybody would consider serious. So they don't have an alternative.
So really, what the Democrats have is because we don't
want law enforcement to seem racist, and because we don't
want Trump to seem correct, and we certainly don't want
to have to admit we're wrong as Democrats, we would
(38:51):
rather more people be carjacked, more people be shot, and
bad things continue to happen in American cities. Then would
happen if we just let Republicans like Trump do what
they want to do and do what they know should
be done.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
That's as simple as this is clay. That's it. You know.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It's just like we said with the Biden border. You
either deport people and discourage legal crossings, or you encourage
it and you get ten million people coming into the country.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
It's very straightforward.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I think deep down Democrats are like, oh, wow, this
is working because I think they really thought, oh, there's
nothing we can do about crime, and I think they're
starting to recognize when you've got ninety nine percent of
people saying it's either a major or minor issue in
big cities in America. I'm not saying the one percent.
(39:36):
I'm trying to think of something that I would believe
that I would be willing to go to the mat
on that ninety nine percent of people would disagree with me.
I'm not saying the one percent is always wrong. It's
pretty hard to for the one percent argument to win.
You know, if you have a honest, in any way
impartial media, and I think Trump is winning, and I
(39:58):
think candidly even a lot of left wing journalists who
claim that they hate Trump agree with him on the
DC crime related issue.
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