June 1, 2025 • 38 mins
President Trump endorses Clay's new book, “Balls: How Trump, Young Men, and Sports Saved America.” Trump’s Superpower. Elon departs DOGE.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. Now, I
want to start with Democrats are Now. This is from
the New York Times doing a deep dive on what
went wrong in twenty twenty four, and they have decided
that they need to do a better job.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Of pursuing young men. And this is this in many ways,
sounds like what you would say when you discover a
new tribe that has never had contact with the outside
world before. Democrats just sound completely broken when it comes
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to understanding how to have a conversation with normal men
out there. And I saw this story over the weekend
in New York Times, and I just thought to myself, Yes,
we should definitely focus on this. Democrats, you'll nail it.
This is from the New York Times. The Perspectus for One,
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a new twenty million dollar effort obtained by the Times,
aims to reverse the erosion of Democrats support among young men,
especially online. And again I'm reading from the New York Times.
It is code named SAM, short for Speaking with American Men,
a strategic plan and promises investment to quote study the syntax,
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language and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.
It recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.
I have talked about this quite a lot, and this
is what my new book is about. It's about how
Democrats lost young men. And I want to tell you
a couple of analogies that are in the book. You
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can go buy it. Some of you are going to
gasp a bit when you hear what it's called. But
let me first thank President Trump for his endorsement. Some
of you may have seen this over the weekend he
posted this is President Trump. Clay Travis has a great
all caps new book coming out November fourth, twenty twenty five,
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Balls How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America. Clay
is a highly talented commentator who is tough, smart, and
gifted with all caps common sense. He studied our historic
movement from the very beginning. Truly gets Maga Maga loves him.
Pre order your copy today with a link. Again. The
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book is called It's going to be out November, but
you can get it for fourteen bucks I think right
now on Amazon, Balls How Trump young Men in Sports
Saved America? And the cover of the book has two
basketballs on the cover, And some of you are going
to say, oh my god, like you're so immature, and yes,
that probably is somewhat true, but I also want for
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people to be gripped by the argument. And the cover
of a book is not surprisingly an opportunity to grab
people and make them think about something or see something
that they may not have seen before. And so I've
spent a great deal of time in the last several
months diving into the data analyzing what exactly is going
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on with young men, and I want to hit you
with a couple of stories that really are in the book.
And again, the book's going to be out in November.
I think you guys are really going to like it.
If you're audiobook people, I'll be reading it. Buck has
got a great new book that's going to be out
in January two, so we'll have a couple of good books.
And I imagine that he's going to be reading his
book too. So for those of you that are going
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to be on the road and don't necessarily want to
read the book itself, you can get the audio version.
But it's up on Amazon. It's only fourteen bucks and
it'll be right there. And I appreciate President Trump for
endorsing the book. They said, hey, how do you want
to announce the book, and I said, well, I'd like
for President Trump to announce it. I didn't know if
he would, But on Sunday night they popped me and said, hey,
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President just he's going to be endorsing your book. That
he's excited about the concept. And Trump gets it right,
Trump gets young men. But I want to talk to you,
if you've got kids or grandkids, I want to hit
you with a couple of stories. Sometimes we don't see
the world through the eyes of people who are of
different ages than us, even though we might see many
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of the same things that they do. And I've got
two stories that are examples and anecdotes that are in
the book that really kind of crystallize the world for me.
You guys know, I have three boys, so I think
about this quite a lot. Right now. They are seventeen, fourteen,
and ten, one who's going to be a rising senior,
rising ninth grader, rising fifth grader, so fairly different ages.
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But in the COVID era in twenty twenty, my then
nine year old, my middle son, like a lot of
your kids are grandkids, was obsessed with football cards, basketball cards,
baseball cards. I love them. When I was a kid.
My boys got really into them as well. YouTube has
really I think fueled this because you unpack, you open these,
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you break as they call it, these cards, and you
go through and you look at them and they have
all sorts of special cards.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Really very cool.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, it takes me back in time every time
I walk into a card shop with my boys, and
it just reminds me of being in the nineteen eighties,
nineteen nineties for many of you sixties seventies, whenever you
were into two thousands baseball cards, football cards, basketball cards,
and we were going to Target during the COVID era,
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everything you know, buying large shutdown. My kids are really
fired up about cards even more. This is when YouTube
it kind of took off. People card value skyrocket, a
lot of people sitting around watching. And we walked into Target,
and this is before the Target tuck bathing suits went crazy,
before Target's Pride Month insanity. We walked in and my
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nine year old points to the very first clothing display
in our local Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee. This is
a red county in a red state. I'm not talking
about walking in on in Times Square or something into
a Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee, where I live in
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Williamson County, just south of Nashville, Tennessee, Red County, Red state.
And he just said they would never have anything like
and I'm paraphrasing him, they would never have that for us,
And I didn't really know what he was talking about.
He looked over. He said they would never and there's
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this huge display all of girl power t shirts. Girls rule, girls,
you know, dominate whatever it is, and girl power. He said,
they would never sell boy power shirts.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Dad, what thought?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You know? It's really very inter I mean, I hadn't
thought about it because I'm a generation older than him,
and the generation that I grew up in is boys
and girls should be equal. Boys and girls should all
be able to be doctors or lawyers. You should all
be able to pursue whatever career you want to. We
should allow, regardless of whether you're a boy or girl,
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girls and boys to have equal success. And I went
to law school a Vanderbilt and met his mom there.
There were more girls in my law school class than boys.
And there are way more girls now that graduate from
college than boys who graduate from college, like sixty forty
and you can imagine if sixty percent of college degrees
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still went to men instead of women, we would hear
about it all the time. It would be one of
the top talking points. Oh look how sexist, Look how
the patriarchy still dominates. I mean, we're talking about sixty
percent of college degrees go to women and the majority. Now,
how have graduate degrees go to women too? And yet
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you walk into a Target store, according to my then
nine year old, and they get the message all the time,
girls rule. Boys basically stink and they would never have
a boy power t shirt.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And he was right.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And shortly thereafter they go to public school K to six,
all my boys have. One of their friends came in
to the house and he was talking about they had
been having a history lesson at school, and the history
lesson that he had taken as a young white kid
was white people, white boys, white men ruin everything. And
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he was kind of jokingly sitting around and he was like,
you know, mister Clay, they tell us that we have
all this power, and he's like, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to eat for dinner.
And it's funny, but it's it's also kind of sad
because we've raised this entire generation of boys that has
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been told not just white kids, Black kids, Asian kids,
Hispanic kids, Hey, being a man, being a boy, there's
something wrong with it. Your masculinity is toxic. And what
I grapple with in this book is imagine that we
raised an entire generation of boys and we told them
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that their identity was toxic, and then we shut down
their schools, and we shut down their sports teams, and
we told them that COVID was dangerous and masculinity is toxic,
and they didn't get to go to prom, and they
didn't get to finish their basketball season or their soccer seasons.
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And young girls are part of this too, but I
think boys in particular is what I focused on because
of the data. They're profoundly angry. Young white, Hispanic, Asian
and Black men are profoundly angry. And I really think
that Trump, even though he's their grandfather, channels their anger
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at the establishment that took away part of their youth,
that told all of them at birth, hey, you're toxic
because you're masculine. Is it any wonder that they would
be deeply searching for purpose in life and then you
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downgrade religion, you tell them that being a provider is
somewhat toxic too, that they should be beta male versions
of themselves. They are fundamentally rejecting what I would call
is the girl power era, and they're saying, there's nothing
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wrong with being a boy, there's nothing wrong with growing
up to be a man. And I think that a
lot of moms out there right now are listening because
you're raising boys. And I think a lot of grandmas
are looking around like when did all the men in
the world turn into pussy willows? And I think that
Trump has channeled that anger. And I also think that
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the younger boys are actually more conservative than the young
boys who broke in huge numbers. And there's a big
data analysis in this book Balls and again you got
to grab people's attention. There's a big part in the book.
Do you know the two trumpiest voting groups in America
in the twenty twenty four election were men over the
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age of sixty five and young men twenty four and younger.
I bet never in history have young men and older
men been more aligned than they are right now. And
the older men are like this whole generation is bs.
But you know what the younger men are saying, you're right, Grandpa.
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This whole generation is BS now. People like me are
kind of in the middle right because I think we
grew up in the era of Hey, women should be
able to be successful. Yeah good, go be a doctor,
go be a lawyer. That's fine. But I think this
younger generation, it's moved from women should be successful to
men are bad. We have dragged down men to elevate women.
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And I think they see it, they feel that they're
being taught it. And so this book that I wrote
is a complete examination of that era, and I don't
think anybody else has told the story again comes through
the world of sports, COVID, all of it rolls together
to create what may be the most conservative generation that
any of us have ever seen in terms of young men.
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And I see it as a dad because the younger
men are moving even more conservative. And the line of
demarcation to me is COVID. COVID was the breaking point,
the point in time where a lot of these young
men said, no, we're being lied to. If you lied
to me about COVID, why should I listen to you
about gender issues? Why should I trust you on anything?
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And I think Trump and his disruptive bravery. I'll talk
about that in a second when I come back. Connects
with them on a visceral level, White Black, Asian Hispanics,
not just white kids, it's young men of all ages.
The data is reflecting.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Elon has said that his time as a special government
employee has come to a conclusion. He put this out
on X, the platform that he owns, which now is
actually a free speech platform. As my scheduled time as
a special government employee comes to an end. I would
like to thank President Trump for the opportunity to reduce
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wasteful spending. The DOGE mission will only strengthen over time
is it becomes a way of life throughout the government.
So Elon is going to go back to being the
most important single CEO and you know business. I don't
like the term thought leader right because it's like a
thought leader. I mean, the guy is a thought leader,
(14:18):
but I don't like to use that term. But he's
going to go back to doing the full Elon routine,
which is going to be I think great for SpaceX,
for Tesla, for X, for Boring Company, for all the
things that he is involved in. So this is where
we get into a little bit speaking of expectations, management
of they've done what they could do. He did not
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unilaterally and this was known all along. He does not
unilaterally have the authority, the power. Those didn't have to
just say these cuts are going into effect money that
Congress has appropriated. If Congress says this, you know, this
program for fiscal year twenty twenty five has ten million
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dollars or ten billion dollars. Dog couldn't just come along
and say, yeah, they don't have ten billion dollars anymore.
But this is where recisions come in. This also goes
to our conversations over the Big Beautiful Bill. There's been
a little bit of pushback here, including from some of
the most pro Trump voices you will find in the
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Senate and just in general, who are saying, hey, Trump,
I love you with all respect. You're doing great things.
We all get that. This isn't like some never trumpy
wine fest. You think, eh, but like kind of like
the way you said it. No, that's for libs, that's
for fake Republicans. This is just about okay, it's halftime,
and it's not even halftime to be clear. It's early.
(15:50):
It's a time out in the first quarter of this administration,
and we're all huddled together and some of us are saying, Hey, Trump,
thank you for being the quarterback. But you know, can
you hit that guy on the button hook? Clay would
be proud, by the way. I'm just gonna say, look
at that button hook. But yeah, you know what I'm
saying that that's the mentality, or rather that's the the
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rationale behind some of the pushback on this from people
like Senator Ron Johnson, people like Senator Ran Paul. They're
on board for the mission, but they want to shape
this and this is why it goes to the Senate.
I bring it up because, you know, yesterday I said
we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
And I think I'm trying to so many administrations said
it later that day. I'm trying to remember. I don't
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want to misquote, but somebody I heard somebody else say it.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. They listened to this show.
So I'm happy to happy to help, happy to help,
and if that means I throw around a cliche that
somebody else will have in their head later, great, But
We've talked about the process and Steven Miller I read
his post on the big beautiful Bill still in process,
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and there's a there're big things in this bill that
will affect us, that will affect your family budget, that
will affect the business that you own or that you
work for in your town. I mean, there's this real stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
This isn't sitting around arguing about the naming of the
next post office in Topeka. No offense Topeka. But this
is about big economic issue, structural issues, and setting the
economy on a footing that will allow it to get
to the best possible places, right, I mean tremendous prosperity,
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which I'm very confident in.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
You.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I have not been gloom and doom about the Trump
economy since he won that election for one moment, for
one day, even when oh, the Trump procession is here,
all the market is dropped. You can go back and
listen to those shows. We're like I kept saying, he
knows what he's doing. Everyone just who's freaking out needs to,
as I believe they would say here in South Florida, tranquilo.
(17:58):
Everyone needs to calm down. It's fine, Okay, Nothing terrible
has happened. He knows what he's doing. Part of the
complaints about the big beautiful bill, though, have been on
where is where are the cuts? Where is DOGE and
the ethos of DOGE being made real? And this is
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where you have OMB Director Russell Vaught, who is on
the Cudlow Show saying that yes, in fact, the administration
is sending a recisions package to Congress. Let's hear it
from the OMB director himself, play four I can.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
We'll be sending that up on Monday or Tuesday, whenever
the House is back in session. They will get our
first recisions bill. And again this has been proposed and
we've talked about it. We want to make sure that
Congress passes its first recisions bill, including the DOGE, and
we will send more if they pass it.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And so this is the first one. Is Foreign Aid USAI.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
D cut many of the waste and garbage that was
funding not only wasteful but hurting our foreign policy, but
also the Corporation for Public Broadcasting NPR. Will be sending
that up and we're working with Congress and we've had
good conversations to make sure that they knew what was coming.
They had some input. Is to changes that could be
made to make it something that could pass the House,
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and we're excited for that to occur next week.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
There you have it. I said, hold on a second,
where are the doge cuts in the big beautiful bill.
And Stephen Miller, who understands this process as well as
anybody because he is look, he is at the center
of what's going on in this White House. He is
absolutely dialed in and he explained it to everybody, and
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he said, look, this is how it has to happen
within the system. And let's be honest, even if you
follow government and politics for a living, some of this
stuff unless you I'll tell you this, some members of
Congress don't even know this stuff that well. There's staff members.
Do their staffers do? And they briefed them on it,
but they're like, wait, I gotta do that? The who's
what's it here? How does this work? Steven Miller came
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out and said, here is what has to happen for
the cuts to become real and final or to come
to fruition. And now that process has gone to the
next step. And now you'll see, Okay, does usaid, does
the budget? Does Congress do what it's supposed to do.
Does PBS get its government funding cut? I have I
(20:28):
think the most perfect argument about this of anybody or
anyone else is welcome and bar But I like to
make arguments that other people can borrow them. That's fine.
I just want the truth to win. But PBS and
anybody else who is getting straight up government funding as
a media entity, they cannot claim simultaneously, oh, we don't
really need that funding. It's only a small percentage of
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our budget. And comma, how dare they cut our budget?
What are we going to do? This is tyranny. You
are not entitled to federal fund as a media entity.
This is insane, you know. I imagine all of a sudden,
I would just say this, why is PBS getting money
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from the government? Clay and Buck show doesn't get any
money from the government. We're a capitalist enterprise. Thanks to
all of you who listen, and thanks to all of
you who make our sponsors so successful, in the campaigns
we have, in the partnerships we have on this show.
Is thanks to you that this show exists. No, there's
no I mean it would be kind of nice. I
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don't know. You get a check for ten million dollars
for the government, you know, we give bonuses for the
New York team or something out of that, right, I mean,
this is this is the kind of thing that you
sit there and you say, how has this even been
able to exist as long as it has? And I
want to get into this a little bit more on
the Trump fight with Harvard, which I'll dive into in
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the bottom, which I think, I think this stuff is important.
And there's a new addition to this too, about four
in students from China. What's going on here? You know?
Were we bringing Were we bringing the best and the
brightest from Moscow to study at cal Tech and MIT?
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And I don't know, nuclear engineering or something. Were we
doing that during the Cold War? I'm not aware of
it in any real numbers. I mean, there was a
lot of espionage going on, but I don't think we
were welcoming, you know, uh, tens of thousands of students
from Moscow to come work at high levels of sensitive
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But we're doing that with China. We are we have
been doing and it's so dumb and so contra the
national interest that when you say it out loud, it
almost feels like, how is this? How is this possible?
And then you can even take it a step further.
How many Americans are getting access to the research being
done by I don't know what the top Chinese universities are,
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you know, let's just say the equivalent of University of Beijing.
How many Americans are sitting in there classes learning about
five G, learning about artificial intelligence, learning about next generation
of microchips and what they're supercomputers. All that we all
know the answer, even if you don't follow the issue,
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you know the answer because you'd say, well, China is
not that dumb, but we are. Trump comes along, This
is one of his superpowers. The dumb things that we
have as a country have been doing for such a
long time that we just start to think that this
is the way it has to be, because it seems
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like it's always been that way. Trump comes along and says,
you know, that's a dumb thing and we should stop
doing it. Whether it's getting involved in foreign wars that
we're not going to win and that aren't bringing any
benefit to us or even the people in that country
over the long term, or it's something as straightforward, is
why are we educating the highest possible levels insensitive? They
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want to study Shakespeare. Okay, I'm a little more open
to it as long as there's no Americans who are
losing that spot in that school. Whole other conversation, but
the top electrical engineering, top microprocessor top, you know, theoretical physics, astrophysics.
We're educating our biggest adversaries students and by the way,
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in numbers that would blow your mind. I actually had
a conversation randomly with the guy in the Princeton University
electrical engineering labs a long time ago, and he said
that if they wanted to, This was a long time ago,
was back when I was just out of school. He said,
if they wanted to, they could take three classes or
you know, three times as many students as they have
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from just China with perfect, perfect scores for engineering, I
mean perfect math scores, everything. He says. You know, they
don't take that, man, it's not one hundred percent, but
they could because they all want to come and they
take a lot of them. And that's true of a
lot of these schools. That needs to stop because they
operate in America and they have to start seeing themselves
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as part of this country. They are not islands unto themselves.
They do not have global tenure. So if anything, what
you're seeing right now is Trump putting into action that
very important but very straightforward theory the dumb things that
prior administrations have done that there can be no intelligent
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defense of. Whether it is funding PBS. I know they
do it because it's left wing propaganda, but there's no
real defense of this, not a serious defense, not an
intellectually consistent one. Or spending too much money, fraudulent stuff,
sending money to people overseas, the stuff that Doge has
found dumb. Right, we can all agree, or training the
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foreign adversaries brightest minds in the most sensitive technologies, when
the wars and the economies of the future will be
determined by technological prowess, very dumb. And it is, as
I said, Trump's superpower among several, but one of his
superpowers is to come along and say, I no longer
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wish this country to do the things that we all
know are dumb but have just kept doing with no
good reason other than maybe politics or corruption.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
All right, let's get into Trump and Elon and this
conversation there, because there's what they said, which we'll play
at some of the highlights. There's also, of course the
press getting some opportunities to push on some questions and
put that out there. So I wanted to bring you
this because this was just happening now and certainly worth
our time to dial this in. Here is this is
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Trump giving examples. I think it's an important, important review,
Trump giving examples of the kind of wasteful nonsense that
the government was doing.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Play Just as an example, Doge canceled one hundred and
one million dollars for DEI contracts at the Department of Education.
One hundred and one million dollars, and that was just
a small section of the Department of Education. Fifty nine
million dollars for illegal alien hotel rooms in New York
City and the landlord never made the kind of money
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that he made in the last short period of time.
Fifty nine million dollars to a hotel in New York City.
Forty five million dollars for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships
in Burma. In Burma, does anyone know about Burma? Twenty
million dollars for Arab Sesame Street in the Middle East.
Nobody knows what that's all about. Nobody's been able to
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find it. Eight million dollars for making mice transgender.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I didn't know. I forgot about that one. I feel
like we might have talked eight million dollars for making
mice transgender. That's eight million dollars a lot of money.
If I told you at eight million dollars to start
a foundation or a charity, or do you say, wow, Okay,
I can hire staff and get a facility and do
some stuff. Eight million dollars for transgender mice. I know
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that's in the federal government budgeting. A that's less than
a rounding error, right, And that says more about federal
government budgeting than it does about anything else. We're spending
way too much money. We're wasting way too much money,
that's clear. But the stories here are important because stories
are what stay with people. Numbers can all get mixed together.
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Is it eight million, is it eight billion? Is it?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Who knows? But wait, they were spending money to trans mice.
The government was doing that. We were setting up scholarships
for people in Burma. So think about that. There are
Americans who are struggling to put their child into college,
lots of them, and even those who can afford to
do it. It's painful with a lot of money, right,
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and yet your tax dollars are setting U scholarships for
people in Burma. What is the compelling national security interest
of scholarships in Burma? What is the compelling Because remember
this is all supposed to it's not a global charity.
That is not the purpose of USAID. It is supposed
to be to advance American interests. What is the purpose
of the transgender puppet show in uh Guatemala or wherever
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it was, I forget, I think it was Guatemala. Well,
the purpose was that the people who had government funds
don't care and just want to push their own ideology
and that's it. They think it's their own private slush
fund to do with as they please in these institutions
of government. Well, hopefully that comes to it, and that
goes to the ethos of DOGE. It's not just Elon
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being there. It is setting this up in a way
that there is now going forward, this space that is
filled by people whose job it is to figure this out,
show waste foreign abuse. You know, maybe it's more like
a like a four deployed action cell situation, meaning that
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there are times when we need it and you bring
it together. There are times where you don't and it's
closed down. And wouldn't that be within the spirit of
Doge two, it's not supposed to be some forever bureaucracy.
They set it up. It's like a crisis cell in government, right,
you set it up. We got to do this, done
a bunch of things, and continues on. Here's Elon saying
(30:28):
exactly that that's cut thirty one. Dose is just getting started. Everybody.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
This is not to the end of dose, but really
the beginning my time as a special government point necessarily
had to end. It was a limited time things one
hundred and thirty four days, I believe, which ends in
a few days. So that's you know, it just comes
with the time of it. But the dog team will
only grow stronger over time. The Doge influence willowly grows stronger.
It's liking it to sort of busso Buddhism. It's like
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a way of life. So get incremating throughout the government.
And I'm confident that over time we'll see at twenty
dollars of savings and to product reduction and a trillion
dollars of wasted fraward.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Reduction, trullion dollars of waste in fraud reduction. If this
is seen through now, the recisions package has to go
to Congress and the team check. The Biden administration did
spend millions of dollars on transgender animal experiments. Real thing,
real thing. Those of you who are in towns and cities,
(31:28):
you're like, you know, we could use some money to
you know, I don't know, fix the water pipes that
deliver our drinking water or whatever it is, right, we
could use money for any number of things. I don't
think transgender mice was high on your agenda. Correct me
if I'm wrong, But I don't think transgender mice was
something that you were like, you know, I'm so glad
this tax day that a portion of the American people's
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tax dollars will go toward the trans mice agenda. I
don't think that happens. You can call me crazy. So
Elon is saying that this is going to continue on,
and that the essence of DOGE, or as I say,
the ethos of DOGE, is the thing that needs to
keep going because this cannot continue as it is. We
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have seen what it means when the government just expands
like the blob, and it's not good. It's not good
for our rights, not good for our pocketbooks, not good
for liberty, and that has to start to turn around.
The receding of this will take or I guess the recession. Whatever.
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The way that this will begin to recede there we
go is that we continue to push and stay focused.
It will take time. This is why I give the
Trump administration in general on some of these issues, whether
it's we're talking about the FBI before we're talking about
this issue, I give them some leeway here when it
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comes to the schedule, when it comes to the timing,
because they're doing the things they said they would do.
Trump is doing those things, and that alone is feels revolutionary.
And I think we're a little spoiled. I'm just gonna
say this. I think we're a little bit like the
Some of us are a little bit like the spoiled kids,
where we said, you know, I want an ice cream cone.
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I want an ice cream cone, and we gave him
one right away, and now we go, I want another
ice cream cone. With the border, because Trump solved the
border so quickly and it was so successful, and it's
just you know, that's a big issue, and to totally
transform that and to really for now at least take
that off the table. I know, interior enforcement deportations, that's
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another piece of that pie. But to take the southern
border offline as an issue because you solved it, not
because you're ignoring it or you're you're saying it's better
than it is. I think that that's raised expectations to
an impossible level for some people. Oh, we do you
know Trump fixed that? Why hasn't he fixed the debt? Well,
hold on a second, it's thirty six trillion dollars a
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lot of money. It's gonna take a little time, and
and it's about also, let's be honest, it's about the
education of the American populace on these issues. The more
we know about this as a group, now I get it.
There's the communists, there's the lunatic Democrats. They're never gonna
You can't teach them, they can't learn. Fine, but if
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we have enough people who know and enough people who
want to fix the problem, then it becomes possible. And
so that's where I think there's a lot of power
in what Doge has done, because this stuff is so
absurd that it gathers eyeballs, gains attention, and that's really important.
As I said, stories are what stay with people. Numbers
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get jumbled, stories stay and the stories that Doge has
told are very very important. And then where or something
else that came up which I think could be a
bigger thing in time, a little bit separate from the
Doge issue, but came up with the Dose press con conference.
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If Peter Doucy of Fox News, I fi Peter doing
great work. Peter Doucy of Fox News asked Trump about
whether doctor Jill Biden maybe she can take a break
from her time doing heart surgery in the oar doctor
Jill Biden testifying about the usage of Biden's auto pen
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while he's president play thirty two.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Do you think that doctor Jill Biden should also have
to come in and testify about what she did or.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Didn't do.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I hate the concept that that's the wife of a
man who was going through a lot of problems, and
everybody that dealt with him understood that. And I guess
it came out during the debate loud and clear. That
was a big That was the biggest signal of all
they have to do what's right the country. There was
a lot of dishonesty and the election, as you know,
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it was twenty twenty, that's been now caught. People understand
it was a rigged election. And when you go further out,
when you see the autopen, I mean, I think the
autopen is going to become one of the great scandals
of all time.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Now, a couple of things. There some big takeaways there. Now,
Trump is very calm, cool, collected, and you know, his
tone is very even here. Think about this though. First
of all, you're reminded Trump is not a vindictive guy,
and he has that basic sense of like male honor
where he goes, look it's it's the guy's wife, you know,
(36:27):
I don't you know. You can tell he does not
relish this prospect because he knows and that this is
a guy they tried to throw in prison. This is
a guy that got shot through the ear. This is
a guy who has been through it a million ways
and then some. But he still has that sense of
a real man doesn't want to get in between a
(36:47):
man and his you know, wife with this kind of thing.
A testimony to dementia and everything like that's not there's
something that bothers Trump about that. Still, I think that's
just just shows you the guy that he is. He's
not anyone. He's not a mean guy. He's not a
mean guy. I'll tell you something. I think Biden, and
not even talk about the dementia. I think Biden was
a mean guy. I think he's a nasty, vindictive person.
(37:08):
I really I think all that, Oh I'm grinning and
shaking hands, that was all malarkey. Not a nice guy.
Not a nice guy. And you see this with his family.
Look at Trump's kids. I think the kids tell you
a lot, folks. I know, I'm only been a dad
six weeks and I you know, it's like my favorite
thing in the world. But the kids tell you all.
Look at Trump's kids. Kids are all amazing. I know,
(37:28):
all of them. They're all great kids. I mean the
kids are they're like my age. They're in their forties now.
But they're all good, solid people. They're not perfect, no
one's perfect, but they're good. But they're in fact, I'm
pretty impressive across the board. Legitimately, you look at Biden,
you go look at this guy. This guy is a mess.
The son has grew up in DCEs crack, addict. You
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can't me. This was completely overlooked. Okay, Okay, I know
I'm going down that pathway more than I want. We're
running out of time. I wish I had. Well, I
do have three more hours ago on Monday, so we
can return to this. But yeah, other thing, he says,
this could be the biggest scandal, the dementia hiding by
the media and the Democrat Party. That may not be
the biggest part of the scandal. It might actually be
(38:11):
the auto pen usage that happened as a result of that.
That's what Trump just said. We're going to keep an
eye on this. This is a a big deal, big deal.
This is Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. Now, I
want to start with Democrats are Now. This is from
the New York Times doing a deep dive on what
went wrong in twenty twenty four, and they have decided
that they need to do a better job.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Of pursuing young men. And this is this in many ways,
sounds like what you would say when you discover a
new tribe that has never had contact with the outside
world before. Democrats just sound completely broken when it comes
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to understanding how to have a conversation with normal men
out there. And I saw this story over the weekend
in New York Times, and I just thought to myself, Yes,
we should definitely focus on this. Democrats, you'll nail it.
This is from the New York Times. The Perspectus for One,
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a new twenty million dollar effort obtained by the Times,
aims to reverse the erosion of Democrats support among young men,
especially online. And again I'm reading from the New York Times.
It is code named SAM, short for Speaking with American Men,
a strategic plan and promises investment to quote study the syntax,
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language and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces.
It recommends buying advertisements in video games, among other things.
I have talked about this quite a lot, and this
is what my new book is about. It's about how
Democrats lost young men. And I want to tell you
a couple of analogies that are in the book. You
(01:47):
can go buy it. Some of you are going to
gasp a bit when you hear what it's called. But
let me first thank President Trump for his endorsement. Some
of you may have seen this over the weekend he
posted this is President Trump. Clay Travis has a great
all caps new book coming out November fourth, twenty twenty five,
(02:09):
Balls How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America. Clay
is a highly talented commentator who is tough, smart, and
gifted with all caps common sense. He studied our historic
movement from the very beginning. Truly gets Maga Maga loves him.
Pre order your copy today with a link. Again. The
(02:29):
book is called It's going to be out November, but
you can get it for fourteen bucks I think right
now on Amazon, Balls How Trump young Men in Sports
Saved America? And the cover of the book has two
basketballs on the cover, And some of you are going
to say, oh my god, like you're so immature, and yes,
that probably is somewhat true, but I also want for
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people to be gripped by the argument. And the cover
of a book is not surprisingly an opportunity to grab
people and make them think about something or see something
that they may not have seen before. And so I've
spent a great deal of time in the last several
months diving into the data analyzing what exactly is going
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on with young men, and I want to hit you
with a couple of stories that really are in the book.
And again, the book's going to be out in November.
I think you guys are really going to like it.
If you're audiobook people, I'll be reading it. Buck has
got a great new book that's going to be out
in January two, so we'll have a couple of good books.
And I imagine that he's going to be reading his
book too. So for those of you that are going
(03:34):
to be on the road and don't necessarily want to
read the book itself, you can get the audio version.
But it's up on Amazon. It's only fourteen bucks and
it'll be right there. And I appreciate President Trump for
endorsing the book. They said, hey, how do you want
to announce the book, and I said, well, I'd like
for President Trump to announce it. I didn't know if
he would, But on Sunday night they popped me and said, hey,
(03:56):
President just he's going to be endorsing your book. That
he's excited about the concept. And Trump gets it right,
Trump gets young men. But I want to talk to you,
if you've got kids or grandkids, I want to hit
you with a couple of stories. Sometimes we don't see
the world through the eyes of people who are of
different ages than us, even though we might see many
(04:20):
of the same things that they do. And I've got
two stories that are examples and anecdotes that are in
the book that really kind of crystallize the world for me.
You guys know, I have three boys, so I think
about this quite a lot. Right now. They are seventeen, fourteen,
and ten, one who's going to be a rising senior,
rising ninth grader, rising fifth grader, so fairly different ages.
(04:43):
But in the COVID era in twenty twenty, my then
nine year old, my middle son, like a lot of
your kids are grandkids, was obsessed with football cards, basketball cards,
baseball cards. I love them. When I was a kid.
My boys got really into them as well. YouTube has
really I think fueled this because you unpack, you open these,
(05:06):
you break as they call it, these cards, and you
go through and you look at them and they have
all sorts of special cards.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Really very cool.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean, it takes me back in time every time
I walk into a card shop with my boys, and
it just reminds me of being in the nineteen eighties,
nineteen nineties for many of you sixties seventies, whenever you
were into two thousands baseball cards, football cards, basketball cards,
and we were going to Target during the COVID era,
(05:35):
everything you know, buying large shutdown. My kids are really
fired up about cards even more. This is when YouTube
it kind of took off. People card value skyrocket, a
lot of people sitting around watching. And we walked into Target,
and this is before the Target tuck bathing suits went crazy,
before Target's Pride Month insanity. We walked in and my
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nine year old points to the very first clothing display
in our local Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee. This is
a red county in a red state. I'm not talking
about walking in on in Times Square or something into
a Target. This is Franklin, Tennessee, where I live in
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Williamson County, just south of Nashville, Tennessee, Red County, Red state.
And he just said they would never have anything like
and I'm paraphrasing him, they would never have that for us,
And I didn't really know what he was talking about.
He looked over. He said they would never and there's
(06:41):
this huge display all of girl power t shirts. Girls rule, girls,
you know, dominate whatever it is, and girl power. He said,
they would never sell boy power shirts.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Dad, what thought?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
You know? It's really very inter I mean, I hadn't
thought about it because I'm a generation older than him,
and the generation that I grew up in is boys
and girls should be equal. Boys and girls should all
be able to be doctors or lawyers. You should all
be able to pursue whatever career you want to. We
should allow, regardless of whether you're a boy or girl,
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girls and boys to have equal success. And I went
to law school a Vanderbilt and met his mom there.
There were more girls in my law school class than boys.
And there are way more girls now that graduate from
college than boys who graduate from college, like sixty forty
and you can imagine if sixty percent of college degrees
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still went to men instead of women, we would hear
about it all the time. It would be one of
the top talking points. Oh look how sexist, Look how
the patriarchy still dominates. I mean, we're talking about sixty
percent of college degrees go to women and the majority. Now,
how have graduate degrees go to women too? And yet
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you walk into a Target store, according to my then
nine year old, and they get the message all the time,
girls rule. Boys basically stink and they would never have
a boy power t shirt.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And he was right.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And shortly thereafter they go to public school K to six,
all my boys have. One of their friends came in
to the house and he was talking about they had
been having a history lesson at school, and the history
lesson that he had taken as a young white kid
was white people, white boys, white men ruin everything. And
(08:45):
he was kind of jokingly sitting around and he was like,
you know, mister Clay, they tell us that we have
all this power, and he's like, my mom doesn't even
let me pick what I get to eat for dinner.
And it's funny, but it's it's also kind of sad
because we've raised this entire generation of boys that has
(09:07):
been told not just white kids, Black kids, Asian kids,
Hispanic kids, Hey, being a man, being a boy, there's
something wrong with it. Your masculinity is toxic. And what
I grapple with in this book is imagine that we
raised an entire generation of boys and we told them
(09:29):
that their identity was toxic, and then we shut down
their schools, and we shut down their sports teams, and
we told them that COVID was dangerous and masculinity is toxic,
and they didn't get to go to prom, and they
didn't get to finish their basketball season or their soccer seasons.
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And young girls are part of this too, but I
think boys in particular is what I focused on because
of the data. They're profoundly angry. Young white, Hispanic, Asian
and Black men are profoundly angry. And I really think
that Trump, even though he's their grandfather, channels their anger
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at the establishment that took away part of their youth,
that told all of them at birth, hey, you're toxic
because you're masculine. Is it any wonder that they would
be deeply searching for purpose in life and then you
(10:37):
downgrade religion, you tell them that being a provider is
somewhat toxic too, that they should be beta male versions
of themselves. They are fundamentally rejecting what I would call
is the girl power era, and they're saying, there's nothing
(11:01):
wrong with being a boy, there's nothing wrong with growing
up to be a man. And I think that a
lot of moms out there right now are listening because
you're raising boys. And I think a lot of grandmas
are looking around like when did all the men in
the world turn into pussy willows? And I think that
Trump has channeled that anger. And I also think that
(11:24):
the younger boys are actually more conservative than the young
boys who broke in huge numbers. And there's a big
data analysis in this book Balls and again you got
to grab people's attention. There's a big part in the book.
Do you know the two trumpiest voting groups in America
in the twenty twenty four election were men over the
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age of sixty five and young men twenty four and younger.
I bet never in history have young men and older
men been more aligned than they are right now. And
the older men are like this whole generation is bs.
But you know what the younger men are saying, you're right, Grandpa.
(12:08):
This whole generation is BS now. People like me are
kind of in the middle right because I think we
grew up in the era of Hey, women should be
able to be successful. Yeah good, go be a doctor,
go be a lawyer. That's fine. But I think this
younger generation, it's moved from women should be successful to
men are bad. We have dragged down men to elevate women.
(12:30):
And I think they see it, they feel that they're
being taught it. And so this book that I wrote
is a complete examination of that era, and I don't
think anybody else has told the story again comes through
the world of sports, COVID, all of it rolls together
to create what may be the most conservative generation that
any of us have ever seen in terms of young men.
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And I see it as a dad because the younger
men are moving even more conservative. And the line of
demarcation to me is COVID. COVID was the breaking point,
the point in time where a lot of these young
men said, no, we're being lied to. If you lied
to me about COVID, why should I listen to you
about gender issues? Why should I trust you on anything?
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And I think Trump and his disruptive bravery. I'll talk
about that in a second when I come back. Connects
with them on a visceral level, White Black, Asian Hispanics,
not just white kids, it's young men of all ages.
The data is reflecting.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Elon has said that his time as a special government
employee has come to a conclusion. He put this out
on X, the platform that he owns, which now is
actually a free speech platform. As my scheduled time as
a special government employee comes to an end. I would
like to thank President Trump for the opportunity to reduce
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wasteful spending. The DOGE mission will only strengthen over time
is it becomes a way of life throughout the government.
So Elon is going to go back to being the
most important single CEO and you know business. I don't
like the term thought leader right because it's like a
thought leader. I mean, the guy is a thought leader,
(14:18):
but I don't like to use that term. But he's
going to go back to doing the full Elon routine,
which is going to be I think great for SpaceX,
for Tesla, for X, for Boring Company, for all the
things that he is involved in. So this is where
we get into a little bit speaking of expectations, management
of they've done what they could do. He did not
(14:41):
unilaterally and this was known all along. He does not
unilaterally have the authority, the power. Those didn't have to
just say these cuts are going into effect money that
Congress has appropriated. If Congress says this, you know, this
program for fiscal year twenty twenty five has ten million
(15:06):
dollars or ten billion dollars. Dog couldn't just come along
and say, yeah, they don't have ten billion dollars anymore.
But this is where recisions come in. This also goes
to our conversations over the Big Beautiful Bill. There's been
a little bit of pushback here, including from some of
the most pro Trump voices you will find in the
(15:28):
Senate and just in general, who are saying, hey, Trump,
I love you with all respect. You're doing great things.
We all get that. This isn't like some never trumpy
wine fest. You think, eh, but like kind of like
the way you said it. No, that's for libs, that's
for fake Republicans. This is just about okay, it's halftime,
and it's not even halftime to be clear. It's early.
(15:50):
It's a time out in the first quarter of this administration,
and we're all huddled together and some of us are saying, Hey, Trump,
thank you for being the quarterback. But you know, can
you hit that guy on the button hook? Clay would
be proud, by the way. I'm just gonna say, look
at that button hook. But yeah, you know what I'm
saying that that's the mentality, or rather that's the the
(16:14):
rationale behind some of the pushback on this from people
like Senator Ron Johnson, people like Senator Ran Paul. They're
on board for the mission, but they want to shape
this and this is why it goes to the Senate.
I bring it up because, you know, yesterday I said
we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
And I think I'm trying to so many administrations said
it later that day. I'm trying to remember. I don't
(16:36):
want to misquote, but somebody I heard somebody else say it.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. They listened to this show.
So I'm happy to happy to help, happy to help,
and if that means I throw around a cliche that
somebody else will have in their head later, great, But
We've talked about the process and Steven Miller I read
his post on the big beautiful Bill still in process,
(16:58):
and there's a there're big things in this bill that
will affect us, that will affect your family budget, that
will affect the business that you own or that you
work for in your town. I mean, there's this real stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
This isn't sitting around arguing about the naming of the
next post office in Topeka. No offense Topeka. But this
is about big economic issue, structural issues, and setting the
economy on a footing that will allow it to get
to the best possible places, right, I mean tremendous prosperity,
(17:35):
which I'm very confident in.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
You.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I have not been gloom and doom about the Trump
economy since he won that election for one moment, for
one day, even when oh, the Trump procession is here,
all the market is dropped. You can go back and
listen to those shows. We're like I kept saying, he
knows what he's doing. Everyone just who's freaking out needs to,
as I believe they would say here in South Florida, tranquilo.
(17:58):
Everyone needs to calm down. It's fine, Okay, Nothing terrible
has happened. He knows what he's doing. Part of the
complaints about the big beautiful bill, though, have been on
where is where are the cuts? Where is DOGE and
the ethos of DOGE being made real? And this is
(18:20):
where you have OMB Director Russell Vaught, who is on
the Cudlow Show saying that yes, in fact, the administration
is sending a recisions package to Congress. Let's hear it
from the OMB director himself, play four I can.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
We'll be sending that up on Monday or Tuesday, whenever
the House is back in session. They will get our
first recisions bill. And again this has been proposed and
we've talked about it. We want to make sure that
Congress passes its first recisions bill, including the DOGE, and
we will send more if they pass it.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And so this is the first one. Is Foreign Aid USAI.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
D cut many of the waste and garbage that was
funding not only wasteful but hurting our foreign policy, but
also the Corporation for Public Broadcasting NPR. Will be sending
that up and we're working with Congress and we've had
good conversations to make sure that they knew what was coming.
They had some input. Is to changes that could be
made to make it something that could pass the House,
(19:19):
and we're excited for that to occur next week.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
There you have it. I said, hold on a second,
where are the doge cuts in the big beautiful bill.
And Stephen Miller, who understands this process as well as
anybody because he is look, he is at the center
of what's going on in this White House. He is
absolutely dialed in and he explained it to everybody, and
(19:45):
he said, look, this is how it has to happen
within the system. And let's be honest, even if you
follow government and politics for a living, some of this
stuff unless you I'll tell you this, some members of
Congress don't even know this stuff that well. There's staff members.
Do their staffers do? And they briefed them on it,
but they're like, wait, I gotta do that? The who's
what's it here? How does this work? Steven Miller came
(20:06):
out and said, here is what has to happen for
the cuts to become real and final or to come
to fruition. And now that process has gone to the
next step. And now you'll see, Okay, does usaid, does
the budget? Does Congress do what it's supposed to do.
Does PBS get its government funding cut? I have I
(20:28):
think the most perfect argument about this of anybody or
anyone else is welcome and bar But I like to
make arguments that other people can borrow them. That's fine.
I just want the truth to win. But PBS and
anybody else who is getting straight up government funding as
a media entity, they cannot claim simultaneously, oh, we don't
really need that funding. It's only a small percentage of
(20:50):
our budget. And comma, how dare they cut our budget?
What are we going to do? This is tyranny. You
are not entitled to federal fund as a media entity.
This is insane, you know. I imagine all of a sudden,
I would just say this, why is PBS getting money
(21:11):
from the government? Clay and Buck show doesn't get any
money from the government. We're a capitalist enterprise. Thanks to
all of you who listen, and thanks to all of
you who make our sponsors so successful, in the campaigns
we have, in the partnerships we have on this show.
Is thanks to you that this show exists. No, there's
no I mean it would be kind of nice. I
(21:32):
don't know. You get a check for ten million dollars
for the government, you know, we give bonuses for the
New York team or something out of that, right, I mean,
this is this is the kind of thing that you
sit there and you say, how has this even been
able to exist as long as it has? And I
want to get into this a little bit more on
the Trump fight with Harvard, which I'll dive into in
(21:53):
the bottom, which I think, I think this stuff is important.
And there's a new addition to this too, about four
in students from China. What's going on here? You know?
Were we bringing Were we bringing the best and the
brightest from Moscow to study at cal Tech and MIT?
(22:16):
And I don't know, nuclear engineering or something. Were we
doing that during the Cold War? I'm not aware of
it in any real numbers. I mean, there was a
lot of espionage going on, but I don't think we
were welcoming, you know, uh, tens of thousands of students
from Moscow to come work at high levels of sensitive
(22:37):
But we're doing that with China. We are we have
been doing and it's so dumb and so contra the
national interest that when you say it out loud, it
almost feels like, how is this? How is this possible?
And then you can even take it a step further.
How many Americans are getting access to the research being
done by I don't know what the top Chinese universities are,
(23:00):
you know, let's just say the equivalent of University of Beijing.
How many Americans are sitting in there classes learning about
five G, learning about artificial intelligence, learning about next generation
of microchips and what they're supercomputers. All that we all
know the answer, even if you don't follow the issue,
(23:20):
you know the answer because you'd say, well, China is
not that dumb, but we are. Trump comes along, This
is one of his superpowers. The dumb things that we
have as a country have been doing for such a
long time that we just start to think that this
is the way it has to be, because it seems
(23:40):
like it's always been that way. Trump comes along and says,
you know, that's a dumb thing and we should stop
doing it. Whether it's getting involved in foreign wars that
we're not going to win and that aren't bringing any
benefit to us or even the people in that country
over the long term, or it's something as straightforward, is
why are we educating the highest possible levels insensitive? They
(24:02):
want to study Shakespeare. Okay, I'm a little more open
to it as long as there's no Americans who are
losing that spot in that school. Whole other conversation, but
the top electrical engineering, top microprocessor top, you know, theoretical physics, astrophysics.
We're educating our biggest adversaries students and by the way,
(24:24):
in numbers that would blow your mind. I actually had
a conversation randomly with the guy in the Princeton University
electrical engineering labs a long time ago, and he said
that if they wanted to, This was a long time ago,
was back when I was just out of school. He said,
if they wanted to, they could take three classes or
you know, three times as many students as they have
(24:46):
from just China with perfect, perfect scores for engineering, I
mean perfect math scores, everything. He says. You know, they
don't take that, man, it's not one hundred percent, but
they could because they all want to come and they
take a lot of them. And that's true of a
lot of these schools. That needs to stop because they
operate in America and they have to start seeing themselves
(25:06):
as part of this country. They are not islands unto themselves.
They do not have global tenure. So if anything, what
you're seeing right now is Trump putting into action that
very important but very straightforward theory the dumb things that
prior administrations have done that there can be no intelligent
(25:30):
defense of. Whether it is funding PBS. I know they
do it because it's left wing propaganda, but there's no
real defense of this, not a serious defense, not an
intellectually consistent one. Or spending too much money, fraudulent stuff,
sending money to people overseas, the stuff that Doge has
found dumb. Right, we can all agree, or training the
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foreign adversaries brightest minds in the most sensitive technologies, when
the wars and the economies of the future will be
determined by technological prowess, very dumb. And it is, as
I said, Trump's superpower among several, but one of his
superpowers is to come along and say, I no longer
(26:13):
wish this country to do the things that we all
know are dumb but have just kept doing with no
good reason other than maybe politics or corruption.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
All right, let's get into Trump and Elon and this
conversation there, because there's what they said, which we'll play
at some of the highlights. There's also, of course the
press getting some opportunities to push on some questions and
put that out there. So I wanted to bring you
this because this was just happening now and certainly worth
our time to dial this in. Here is this is
(26:47):
Trump giving examples. I think it's an important, important review,
Trump giving examples of the kind of wasteful nonsense that
the government was doing.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Play Just as an example, Doge canceled one hundred and
one million dollars for DEI contracts at the Department of Education.
One hundred and one million dollars, and that was just
a small section of the Department of Education. Fifty nine
million dollars for illegal alien hotel rooms in New York
City and the landlord never made the kind of money
(27:22):
that he made in the last short period of time.
Fifty nine million dollars to a hotel in New York City.
Forty five million dollars for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships
in Burma. In Burma, does anyone know about Burma? Twenty
million dollars for Arab Sesame Street in the Middle East.
Nobody knows what that's all about. Nobody's been able to
(27:44):
find it. Eight million dollars for making mice transgender.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I didn't know. I forgot about that one. I feel
like we might have talked eight million dollars for making
mice transgender. That's eight million dollars a lot of money.
If I told you at eight million dollars to start
a foundation or a charity, or do you say, wow, Okay,
I can hire staff and get a facility and do
some stuff. Eight million dollars for transgender mice. I know
(28:10):
that's in the federal government budgeting. A that's less than
a rounding error, right, And that says more about federal
government budgeting than it does about anything else. We're spending
way too much money. We're wasting way too much money,
that's clear. But the stories here are important because stories
are what stay with people. Numbers can all get mixed together.
(28:33):
Is it eight million, is it eight billion? Is it?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Who knows? But wait, they were spending money to trans mice.
The government was doing that. We were setting up scholarships
for people in Burma. So think about that. There are
Americans who are struggling to put their child into college,
lots of them, and even those who can afford to
do it. It's painful with a lot of money, right,
(28:58):
and yet your tax dollars are setting U scholarships for
people in Burma. What is the compelling national security interest
of scholarships in Burma? What is the compelling Because remember
this is all supposed to it's not a global charity.
That is not the purpose of USAID. It is supposed
to be to advance American interests. What is the purpose
of the transgender puppet show in uh Guatemala or wherever
(29:22):
it was, I forget, I think it was Guatemala. Well,
the purpose was that the people who had government funds
don't care and just want to push their own ideology
and that's it. They think it's their own private slush
fund to do with as they please in these institutions
of government. Well, hopefully that comes to it, and that
goes to the ethos of DOGE. It's not just Elon
(29:45):
being there. It is setting this up in a way
that there is now going forward, this space that is
filled by people whose job it is to figure this out,
show waste foreign abuse. You know, maybe it's more like
a like a four deployed action cell situation, meaning that
(30:08):
there are times when we need it and you bring
it together. There are times where you don't and it's
closed down. And wouldn't that be within the spirit of
Doge two, it's not supposed to be some forever bureaucracy.
They set it up. It's like a crisis cell in government, right,
you set it up. We got to do this, done
a bunch of things, and continues on. Here's Elon saying
(30:28):
exactly that that's cut thirty one. Dose is just getting started. Everybody.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
This is not to the end of dose, but really
the beginning my time as a special government point necessarily
had to end. It was a limited time things one
hundred and thirty four days, I believe, which ends in
a few days. So that's you know, it just comes
with the time of it. But the dog team will
only grow stronger over time. The Doge influence willowly grows stronger.
It's liking it to sort of busso Buddhism. It's like
(30:55):
a way of life. So get incremating throughout the government.
And I'm confident that over time we'll see at twenty
dollars of savings and to product reduction and a trillion
dollars of wasted fraward.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Reduction, trullion dollars of waste in fraud reduction. If this
is seen through now, the recisions package has to go
to Congress and the team check. The Biden administration did
spend millions of dollars on transgender animal experiments. Real thing,
real thing. Those of you who are in towns and cities,
(31:28):
you're like, you know, we could use some money to
you know, I don't know, fix the water pipes that
deliver our drinking water or whatever it is, right, we
could use money for any number of things. I don't
think transgender mice was high on your agenda. Correct me
if I'm wrong, But I don't think transgender mice was
something that you were like, you know, I'm so glad
this tax day that a portion of the American people's
(31:49):
tax dollars will go toward the trans mice agenda. I
don't think that happens. You can call me crazy. So
Elon is saying that this is going to continue on,
and that the essence of DOGE, or as I say,
the ethos of DOGE, is the thing that needs to
keep going because this cannot continue as it is. We
(32:13):
have seen what it means when the government just expands
like the blob, and it's not good. It's not good
for our rights, not good for our pocketbooks, not good
for liberty, and that has to start to turn around.
The receding of this will take or I guess the recession. Whatever.
(32:33):
The way that this will begin to recede there we
go is that we continue to push and stay focused.
It will take time. This is why I give the
Trump administration in general on some of these issues, whether
it's we're talking about the FBI before we're talking about
this issue, I give them some leeway here when it
(32:54):
comes to the schedule, when it comes to the timing,
because they're doing the things they said they would do.
Trump is doing those things, and that alone is feels revolutionary.
And I think we're a little spoiled. I'm just gonna
say this. I think we're a little bit like the
Some of us are a little bit like the spoiled kids,
where we said, you know, I want an ice cream cone.
(33:14):
I want an ice cream cone, and we gave him
one right away, and now we go, I want another
ice cream cone. With the border, because Trump solved the
border so quickly and it was so successful, and it's
just you know, that's a big issue, and to totally
transform that and to really for now at least take
that off the table. I know, interior enforcement deportations, that's
(33:35):
another piece of that pie. But to take the southern
border offline as an issue because you solved it, not
because you're ignoring it or you're you're saying it's better
than it is. I think that that's raised expectations to
an impossible level for some people. Oh, we do you
know Trump fixed that? Why hasn't he fixed the debt? Well,
hold on a second, it's thirty six trillion dollars a
(33:55):
lot of money. It's gonna take a little time, and
and it's about also, let's be honest, it's about the
education of the American populace on these issues. The more
we know about this as a group, now I get it.
There's the communists, there's the lunatic Democrats. They're never gonna
You can't teach them, they can't learn. Fine, but if
(34:15):
we have enough people who know and enough people who
want to fix the problem, then it becomes possible. And
so that's where I think there's a lot of power
in what Doge has done, because this stuff is so
absurd that it gathers eyeballs, gains attention, and that's really important.
As I said, stories are what stay with people. Numbers
(34:38):
get jumbled, stories stay and the stories that Doge has
told are very very important. And then where or something
else that came up which I think could be a
bigger thing in time, a little bit separate from the
Doge issue, but came up with the Dose press con conference.
(34:58):
If Peter Doucy of Fox News, I fi Peter doing
great work. Peter Doucy of Fox News asked Trump about
whether doctor Jill Biden maybe she can take a break
from her time doing heart surgery in the oar doctor
Jill Biden testifying about the usage of Biden's auto pen
(35:20):
while he's president play thirty two.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Do you think that doctor Jill Biden should also have
to come in and testify about what she did or.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Didn't do.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Well.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I hate the concept that that's the wife of a
man who was going through a lot of problems, and
everybody that dealt with him understood that. And I guess
it came out during the debate loud and clear. That
was a big That was the biggest signal of all
they have to do what's right the country. There was
a lot of dishonesty and the election, as you know,
(35:53):
it was twenty twenty, that's been now caught. People understand
it was a rigged election. And when you go further out,
when you see the autopen, I mean, I think the
autopen is going to become one of the great scandals
of all time.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Now, a couple of things. There some big takeaways there. Now,
Trump is very calm, cool, collected, and you know, his
tone is very even here. Think about this though. First
of all, you're reminded Trump is not a vindictive guy,
and he has that basic sense of like male honor
where he goes, look it's it's the guy's wife, you know,
(36:27):
I don't you know. You can tell he does not
relish this prospect because he knows and that this is
a guy they tried to throw in prison. This is
a guy that got shot through the ear. This is
a guy who has been through it a million ways
and then some. But he still has that sense of
a real man doesn't want to get in between a
(36:47):
man and his you know, wife with this kind of thing.
A testimony to dementia and everything like that's not there's
something that bothers Trump about that. Still, I think that's
just just shows you the guy that he is. He's
not anyone. He's not a mean guy. He's not a
mean guy. I'll tell you something. I think Biden, and
not even talk about the dementia. I think Biden was
a mean guy. I think he's a nasty, vindictive person.
(37:08):
I really I think all that, Oh I'm grinning and
shaking hands, that was all malarkey. Not a nice guy.
Not a nice guy. And you see this with his family.
Look at Trump's kids. I think the kids tell you
a lot, folks. I know, I'm only been a dad
six weeks and I you know, it's like my favorite
thing in the world. But the kids tell you all.
Look at Trump's kids. Kids are all amazing. I know,
(37:28):
all of them. They're all great kids. I mean the
kids are they're like my age. They're in their forties now.
But they're all good, solid people. They're not perfect, no
one's perfect, but they're good. But they're in fact, I'm
pretty impressive across the board. Legitimately, you look at Biden,
you go look at this guy. This guy is a mess.
The son has grew up in DCEs crack, addict. You
(37:48):
can't me. This was completely overlooked. Okay, Okay, I know
I'm going down that pathway more than I want. We're
running out of time. I wish I had. Well, I
do have three more hours ago on Monday, so we
can return to this. But yeah, other thing, he says,
this could be the biggest scandal, the dementia hiding by
the media and the Democrat Party. That may not be
the biggest part of the scandal. It might actually be
(38:11):
the auto pen usage that happened as a result of that.
That's what Trump just said. We're going to keep an
eye on this. This is a a big deal, big deal.
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