September 21, 2025 • 33 mins
President Trump’s son, Eric, VP of the Trump Organization, discusses Jimmy Kimmel, Charlie Kirk, his new book, “Under Siege," and business leaders like Mark Zuckerberg, who tried to sink his father, but are now, “back on the team.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He is,
of course, one of President Trump's sons, a guy I've
known since we were both in grade school, and he's
doing amazing things running the Trump Organization. As you all know.
He's also got a new book out, Under Siege, My
Family's Fight to save our Nation, and a portion of
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the proceeds we'll go to Turning Point USA to help
continue Charlie Kirk's mission. Eric, thanks for making the time
for us.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's great to be back on talk to us if.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You would for a second here about the because we
have to dive into this news of the day. I
think it hit everybody like I don't know if it
was that much of a surprise given what a jerky's
been lately. But what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Listen, the guy has been a jerk, he hasn't been funny,
but honestly, I think the network uses a way to
get him out based on bad ratings. I mean, look
at what ratings are on ABC and NBC and CBS
right now, you know, relative to call some of the
other shows, some of even the cable shows. Right, look
at my wife, Look at Laura. I mean, our show
is getting two point six, you know, two point eight
(01:10):
million people, you know on a Saturday night, and you
look at CNN during the week, and if they can
pull five six, seven hundred thousand people, it's like, you know,
they're they're doing great for themselves, right, So it clearly
shows that the content is not working. People are no
longer amused. It's not funny to make fun of thirty
one year old kids who are getting assassinated on any soil,
certainly not US soil, especially somebody who is as beloved
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as our friend Charlie. And I'm glad they got rid
of this jerk.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Eric.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Where were you when you found out about what happened
to Charlie Kirk last week? And what was your immediate reaction?
Because you've got young kids like he does and like
Buck does, and my kids are getting a little bit older.
But you travel around, you do a lot of public events,
so does your wife. What was your reaction when you
saw that?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know, honestly, guys, I hate say it was like
deja vuodah Butler, right, I mean I walked into my office,
my my sister came running up to me. Lard grabbed me.
She goes, you know, to Charlie shot and it looks
like Charlie's dead. I mean it was right after and
obviously at that point it was making its round on
social media, and you know, I uh, you know, you
look at the movement of the body and and and
you knew it was devastating. And you know me, I've
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competed in all the shooting sports my entire life. You know,
you could you could tell it was a high power rifle.
I could tell instantly that was high power rifle just
by the sound of the shot, and and and my
heart sank. I mean, you know, Charlie was a friend.
I've been on the stage with him a hundred times,
as you guys have. You know, We've we've done a
lot of events together over the last you know, ten years,
and and you know, I've stood on that same stage
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a thousand times myself, you know, in swing states all
across the country. And then there there were times leading
up to elections where we're doing five six events, you know,
like that a day, you know, all over every victory office,
every factory, every you know, standing on top of John
Deere attractors with a bull horn, and and you know,
I mean, my heart sunk a young guy who created
one of the greatest political movements in this country, who
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changed the entire youth vote in the United States. And
you know, they thought they could get rid of some
guy's voice by using a bullet to expunge somebody's life.
And honestly, when you look at you know, one point
four million people march across London, when you see pretorious
South Africa and marches in honor of Charlie, when you
see churches full all across the country, and the days
that follow, you know, they only cemented his legacy. They
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didn't expunge his legacy. They cemented his legacy. And you know,
and Charlie, Charlie lives on. And you know, we can
never leave that stage, guys, I will never ever ever
get off that stage. And I think he was a
great inspiration for all.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well he is and certainly your father continues to be.
And that moment you mentioned, Butler where fortunately a very
different outcome there for that day with respect to your father,
and that he was able to pump his fist in
the air and tell everyone to continue to fight Eric
probably the most iconic single moment I think in my
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life in American politics. I don't know of anything that
would really compete with that. That the power of that
visual that I know in your book under Siege, my
family's fight to save our nation, you get into a
lot of this. One of the good things, though, is
that this is the greatest political comeback and really the
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most inspiring I think story of overcoming a lot of
the forces of darkness in this country just by telling
your family's story and telling about what you your brother,
your sister, you know, your dad, and what you've all
been through.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah. So, guys, I started working on this three years ago,
and you know, I was a guy. I ran the
whole company, so everything outside of Washington, DC and the
family really saw on my shoulders, and you know, all
of a sudden, it was impeachment one. It was impeachment two.
It was the Russia hoax. It was a dirty dossier.
I was getting called from the FBI. I hear you
have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower, you know,
communicating directly with the Kremlin. It was obviously a total sham.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Then they sent every da every age after us, whether
it was New York or Washington, d C. Or Fulton County, Georgia.
You know the stories of all of those. I got
one hundred and twelve subpoenas. I became the most subpoenid
person in American history, you know, by these radicals. Then
they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.
They took my father off the ballot in Colorado and
then and then Maine. You know, they came after us,
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They came after our employees. They raided mar Lago, they
raided our homes. I mean, it was non stop siege.
They wanted to bankrupt us, they wanted to see us gone,
They wanted to take away our voice. They wanted the
dozens of gag orders we all had, and these these
nonsense cases, all of which we won, and the vast
majority of them fell on my shoulders because again, they
came after the company based on the fact that my
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father had constitutional protections, and you know, and we beat
these guys. We beat them back at every single instance.
And and so I started writing this book under siege
because that's what they wanted to do. And then, you know,
I had my two kids on my lap. When when
Butler came around and you know, watched my father's head
almost get blown off while having a you know, five
and seven year old sitting on my lap, four and
six year old actually at that time sitting on my lap,
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I mean in high definition TV, and you know, it's
you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to
do it again, and you know, with Tom at the
golf course. And then I saw what happened to Charlie.
And that's what they wanted, guys. They wanted our voices gone,
they wanted our movement gone. They wanted my father gone.
They wanted me off that stage. They wanted Don off
that stage. They sure as hell don't let you, guys,
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for for everything you stand for and how principal the
two of you guys have been. And that's what Underseage
is is about. It's about all the behind the scenes
stories of how they tried to just decimate us, the
corruption of government, and frankly and thank god, how we won,
how we triumphed in something that was such an impossible
you know, I mean, endless fight that went on.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
For one thing I want to ask Eric, is Clay
told me this from me? I refused to read the
Snake Tapper book, because I just felt like it was trying.
You know, he's the arsonist who's then calling the fire department, right,
It just felt too But one interesting revelation from the book,
and Clay read the whole book, So I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
That I did it so everybody else.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He jumped on that hand grenade. For the rest of us.
We appreciated that one. But I uh that that Biden
was behind closed doors constantly with glee in his eyes
talking about how your dad was going to go to prison.
Does that surprise you at all? Like did you think
that there was still some sense of fair play in
that Biden White House but then when that came out?
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Or or did you know that that was that? That
really the whole time they wanted to lock your dad
in a cell?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Guys. I was the one when they rated mar Laga.
Who's shouting on TV? And I you think the FBI
raided mar A Lago without the explicit permission of the
President of the United States, Like, give me a freaking break.
And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jake Capper.
Laura was on a show. She was on CA She goes, listen,
he everybody realizes this guy doesn't have his mental faculties.
And he starts screaming at her on the show, how
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are you the person to diagnose, you know, his his cogibilities.
Don't you think you're offending children with stutters around the country?
And Laura, I mean she would not put up with
a nonsense. She fought right back. And then sure enough,
you know, you look at the title and you can
maybe remind me of the exact title. It was like,
you know, a Biden's you know, a cognitive decline and
the cover up by the mainstream media sitting there saying
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the irony of this, when when six months ago he
actually called my wife to apologize, like, you know, the
irony of this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling
at Laura Trump for saying that we all realize everybody
in this country realizes that the guy's not exactly the sharpest.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Tool in the He said Laura was making fun of
his stutter.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, which is just insane.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, And it screamed at her for for quote unquote
diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD. I mean, give me,
give me a break. And then he writes a book
about how you know, the media misled the world, and
I mean the great irony of this, but you know,
that's why, honestly, that's example nine and twenty of why
people detest the mainstream media in this country and why
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honestly independent voices like yours, you know, are moving the needle,
and why no one watches CBS, and why you know,
people like Jimmy Kimmell are getting fired and and you know.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So on Under Siege is the book My Family's Fight
to Save our Nation. We're talking with Eric Trump. You
are a business guy. You're traveling all over the world
doing deals. And one place that I think is emblematic
of how much the culture has shifted is suddenly everybody
wants to play on your family's fantastic golf courses. Again,
(09:16):
I know that that's a good thing, but does a
part of you just think when these deals get done, man,
so many of these business people are complete and total cowards.
Your dad was right in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty.
They try to cancel him, they kick him off, and
then he wins the popular vote. He's now standing, you know,
doing toast with the King and Queen of England last night,
(09:39):
and all these business guys suddenly, you know, they show
back up and they're.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like, oh, we always loved you. Oh let's go with
the you.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I mean, this is is business one of the most
shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys
are grinding for years and now everybody loves you.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But it's got to be a part of you.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
It's got to be like, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I got canceled guys by every bank in the country
for doing nothing wrong, only because I chose to wear
a Make America Great Again hat. I'm talking about golf
courses in upstate New York. Things that had absolutely nothing
to do with politics. Things, you know, entities that had
been around for twenty five years, that had been perfect customers,
and they turned us off. Capital One, the worst of
all of them, turned us off like we were dogs.
(10:18):
I mean, they cancel three hundred accounts in the middle
of the night, and then all of a sudden, every
single day I get, you know, calls from the heads
of the and you would know the names of every
single one of them. They are the bankers on Wall
Street High Eric. You know, we really missed the relationship
and we'd really love to get back together. I mean,
if you're waiting to come over my house, I'd love
to take you to dinner. I'd love you to treat it.
You know, it'd be great if we could try and
rekindle the relationship. And I'm sitting there, guys, and I
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have very little tolerance for this nonsense, you know, especially now,
I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings, and you know,
I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff. And you're
sitting there saying you dirty. Can't stay it on the radio, guys,
But you know, like I remember and I will not forget,
and you know it is it is. It is shameless.
Listen Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's come around in a big way. And
I actually, unimately believe he loves my father and loves
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our family, and I have a nice relationship with him now.
But he was sitting behind me at inauguration. Was the
first time I've ever met him. And I'm saying, they're saying,
you're sitting behind me an inauguration. Yet in twenty twenty,
you spent four hundred million dollars against this. You put
four hundred and by the way, you go on Facebook
to try and find a polling location, you know, or
a voting location, a ballot, you know, and guess what,
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every single one would come up for Biden. Not a
single one would come up for Trump. It's like, you know,
they rig the algorithms they put countly right, they turned
down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden, everybody's
smiling and happy. And you know, I'm not saying that
people can't change your mind, and I think he legitimately
did and is legitimately on the team now. But it's
you know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight
that your family has put forward for the country, and
it is it is a phenomenal first year in this administration.
We're not just saying this because he's your dad, not
just sitting it's Sarah, because I think I met you
when you were ten years old or something for the
first time. But this is the truth. It has been
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an incredible first year and what your dat has come
through is the most amazing political battle in my lifetime.
I think in any of our lifetime, I don't think
anything would come close to it. And the fact that
you're giving a portion of the proceeds of the book
to turning Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy. I
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think just speaks to how much you care about well,
your friend Charlie, his family, and also the mission that
he left behind. So the book is under siege, my
family's fight to save our nation. Go get your copies. Eric,
welcome anytime, my friend, Please come back soon.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Thanks you guy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
We bring in Peter Navarro right now. Peter, you were
just talking with President Trump. I believe he's on his
way back from England. What was that conversation? Like, what
can you tell us about it?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You never talk about what we're talking about. But I
was delayed because of President Trump. But what I can
tell you is this that they are out to get us.
And the new book I've got I went to prison
so you won't have to is all about how not
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only did they come after me, they came after President Trump,
they came after Steve Bannon. They targeted everybody I served
with in the White House in some manner with these
tools of law fare. And when I was in prison
for four months, for defending the Constitution. I had the
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discipline to do a daily journal talk about these things,
and I got this book out because if we don't
hold these people accountable, they're going to just keep doing it.
Everybody I served with in the White House the first
termam I was there for all four years, got targeted
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by the left in some way. The easiest thing that
would happen is they'd have to pay hundreds of thousands
of dollars or millions of dollars in legal fees. That's
the That's the best they could do serve in their country.
The worst you could do is what just fringing happened
with my brother Charlie Kirk taking a bullet by an assassin,
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and then it then they four times they tried to
put President Trump in prison, two times they tried to
kill him, Bannon myself in prison, they Mike Flynn, Woody Giuliani.
So this is not a good time for this Republic.
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But we're fighting back, sir, And that's why I wrote
I went to prison so you won't have to. And
by the way, I don't know if you saw the
speech I gave at the Republican National Convention, but that
speech was given the night of the day I actually
got out of prison, and it's a wake up call.
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So I hope your listeners and viewers will pay attention
to this case. We can't let them get power backed.
They will keep doing this again until we hold them accountable.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Peter Navarro with us. Now, we started four months in prison.
What was prison like? I can't imagine. It was a
very fun experience, but hopefully most of people will never know.
And the idea that you were there for political persecution
is even more bonkers. But in terms of the physical
day to day for four months is like what in
your experience?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, that's one of the stories that I went to prison,
so you won't have to you know, it's a law
fair story about kind of how I got in there.
It's a love story about how my fiance Pixie and
I were able to manage the trauma of four months
in prison. But then the inside there's a couple of
things going on. I mean, you see kind of day
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to day life of of how for example, you know,
I lost twelve pounds, I got COVID twice because of
the of the conditions in there. You know, I saw
some some some no shortage of violence, no shortage of danger,
but no shortage of humanity as well. I mean, they're
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they're they're good people in there who did bad things,
not just bad people who did bad things. And it's
just trying to navigate your way through that is a test,
the test of who you are and what you stand for.
And there's a funny story the beginning of I went
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to prison so you won't have to about getting me
getting surrounded in the yard by three guys and I'm thinking,
you know, okay, what's going to go wrong here? And
one of them starts talking about how how they liked me.
He's the word like they did, and uh, they say,
why is because I wasn't a snitch, And inside and
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I kind of kept a straight face, but inside I'm
laughing my ass off because I'm trying to figure out
like the moral equivalence between me refusing a congressional subpoena
to defend the constitution and these guys in the classical
snitch is not not snitching on their fellow criminals. So
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there's stuff like that. There's some significant moments. I saved
one guy's life, I arguably helping him get some emergency
medical care.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And and I think one of the most interesting stories
inside the story is how I became essentially an investigative
reporter that uncovered a five billion dollar, billion dollar scandal
inside the Bureau of Prisons that now that I'm on
the outside, I've been able to actually solve. So I
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think that that's like a unique historical moment that you'll
never see. And I tell that story as well.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
But where were you, Peter on election night? And what
was your reaction to Trump's victory?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Oh? This is great. So I get out of prison
on July seventeenth, two days after my birthday. The son
of a bitch has kept me in prison. It wouldn't
let me out two days early for my birthday. I
give the speech that night, and then Pitchy and I
immediately go on the campaign trail on the on the
Trump bus, and we were going to Georgia, We're going
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to Pennsylvania, We're going to North Carolina. Working really hard.
We'd go I'd go to sometimes I'd be the warm up,
one of the warm up speakers for a Trump rally,
things like that. And so the night of the night
of the election night is like at midnight into three
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am in the morning. I'm with the boss, and where
I think it was? Where was it to moin me
somewhere out he's He's going on for like two hours
in a speech like he loves to do and stuff
like that, leaving.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I think it was Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
If I'm not forgot.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Michigan, that's right, it was Grand Rapids. We're up in
you know, the usual basketball hockey rink up in the country,
you and I love up in you know, flyover country. Uh,
and he hits about three in the morning before we
get out of there and we land uh back in DC.
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I don't know, ticks the morning, something like that. And
you know, I was there was no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
He was going to win that race for Peter and Navarro.
The show is ending here, but I want you guys
to go check it out. I went to prison so
you wouldn't have to won't have to a love and
law fair story. In trump Land, you're listening to Team
forty seven with and Buck. We are joined now by
Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going to dive into
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President Trump's announcement last week that he's going to be
bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which, according to many
measures of violent crime on a per capita basis, may
well be the most dangerous city in the entire country.
But I want to start with this, Senator Blackburn. First
of all, I missed you in Knoxville, where you and
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I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game, which did
not end well for the good guys in this case
the team wearing orange. But I know that you were
all over the place there and it's a sporting event.
But I bet you had a similar experience as I did,
Senator Blackburn, which is the number of people who came
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up to me that wanted to talk about what happened
to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event, was unlike
anything I've ever seen before. No One usually people want
to come up and it's almost exclusively, Hey, who's going
to win the game? What do you think is going
to happen? Almost everybody that came up to me at
the sporting event wanted to talk about the Charlie Kirk situation.
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I've not asked you this, but I bet you found
it to be similar as well. And I know you
have a grandson that attends the same school as my sons,
and the impact on young men in particular of this
assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But their response has been
I have seen very profoundly courageous. I've been very encouraged.
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So that's a big prelude, But I'm curious what you
found in both those situations.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Yes, indeed, I will tell you. I have been just
so honored by the conduct of my grandsons and their
classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie kirk
in for the remembrance of nine to eleven, and our
grandson even noticed that the flags had not been moved
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to half staff before before class started, So he walked
out to the flagpole and he lowered the flag to
half staff, and I think one of the teachers kind
of got in behind him a little bit about it,
but he said he was following the president's order for
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all flags to fly at half staff until six pm
on Sunday. And I said, you know, if that's what
you get in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing.
Honoring someone who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their
lives in our military who fought after nine to eleven
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in all of those brave first responders and doing what
the President said was the order of the day, which
was lowering the flags. And you're right about being at
University of Tennessee, we could hardly get through the crowd,
like you said, without people saying, look, we stand with
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Charlie Kirk, we stand with family values in Tennessee values
and morals, and we stand with the President. And it
was just such an outpouring I think for so many
college students, whether you were there in Circle Park or
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at one of the fraternity houses or wherever play, it
was astounding to me that these kids were such a
fan of Charlie Kirk. They listened to him, they followed him,
they enjoyed his podcast, and they wanted to They love
the way he speaks truth and have so gravitated to that,
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and they loved President Trump, and they just wanted to
register their shock and their disappointment with what had happened
and their grief in many respects. And we had a
great sermon yesterday at our church and the minister said
something I think is so important is that while we
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turn the other cheek, and we know to turn the
other cheek through evil, we cannot turn a blind eye,
and that is incumbent on us to remember that we
have to push back and fight against evil. And it
is pure evil that caused someone to try to silence
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Charlie Kirk. And as we have seen, his message now
will be more powerful than ever. The outpouring of support
for Charlie in his work for Erica and their children.
It is not singular, but it is global in nature,
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and indeed, I think this is truly a turning point.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also
getting some attention in the news cycle today is the
move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and
bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to
help tackle the out of control murder rate in the
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city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know
about this so far, what stage is the planning and
do you believe that this would be able to have
a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful.
And what we know is this Cash Pattel gave me
a commitment when he came to meet with me before
his hearing for his FBI confirmation and I'm on Senate
Judiciary Committee. I asks him in my office and then
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again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis
and getting an FBI surge in Memphis. Under President Trump's
first term, we had a program there called Legend. It
had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed
something back. So this summer for two months we had
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Operation Viper. There have been over five hundred arrest There
have already been over one hundred indictments. We know Memphis
has one hundred games. They have a per capital murder
rate of twenty five hundred per one hundred thousand. That
is why it's the most dangerous city in the country.
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We know that during the Memphis had the best August
it has had in years. Whether it's murders or rapes
or sets burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been down
and significantly down. Some the best in twenty years, some
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the best in over five years. So this has made
a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over.
They've worked closely with Memphis Police, with the Mayor of Memphis,
and they need to continue this multi phase approach and
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it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So
in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you
will have the National Guard. Now they can go in,
they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can
do traffic. There are so many things they can do.
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And this will allow Memphis Police who do have arrest
powers to go in and apprehend others these gangs and
get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD
needs to be focused is continuing to apprehend these gang
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leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are
doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these sets.
You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we
have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class
A railroads I forty that goes from the east coast
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to the west coast, and you also have fed X.
So when you've got all of this with the river,
the rail the highways that air, cargo theft is a
big issue and these gangs have created processes to go
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in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft.
So being able to have the police work with these
companies whether it's rail or water, our highways and I
get a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important also,
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so the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They
are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis
to be safe, We want it to be prosperous. It
is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant it has
a promising future, and a big part of that is
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getting the crime under control.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Center Blackburn, I just Buck and I started off the
show talking about the dark soul of the left in
this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly
to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is a
big question, and it's one that I've been thinking about
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a lot. How do we fix this? Because if your
soul is so dark that when you see a father
murdered in cold blood simply for sitting in front of
an open mic and saying tell me whatever you believe too,
the soul of so many people is profoundly evil here.
How do we fix the rot in our culture?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
What can we do.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Well?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
This is something that talking with people through the process
of legislation that I have worked on with the Kids
Online Safety Act and trying to get that passed, And
you look at what these young people are picking up
on social media, they become isolated. They get onto these
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platforms like Reddit and discord, and they get into these
discussion groups, and instead of it being a tool that
opens their mind and something for good, it narrows their
thought process and they become very angry. So I think
the church has a role to play in this. I
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think parents have a role to play in this. A
governance for social media platforms have a role to play
in this. Looking at the mental health of kids. That
is something that has to be done. It's not going
to be fixed by one thing or another thing. But
I do believe that strong families can help. I do
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believe that getting kids off of these social media platforms
that will help. I do think that incur and I
will say this, I think the Governor of Utah has
done an exemplary job in this getting kids off these devices.
You know, right now, the studies that we have seen
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as we've worked on keeping kids safe and try to
hold social media to account, you know, kids are spending
Teenagers are spending as much as eight hours a day
on the phone, eight hours. Middle school kids are spending
about five. And when they're doing this, they're being exposed
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to things that young minds are not equipped to see. This.
I mean, this is when we have ratings on movies
in theaters. You can't take a Chile to an X
rated movie. You can't sell them alcohol or tobacco or firearms.
You can't take them to a pornographic show or a
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strip club or sell them magazines. But on the virtual space,
they're exposed to it twenty four to seven and they
become desensitized. And you know, I just I am and
some of my friends, we are just praying, deeply, praying
that skills will fall from eyes and that people will
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awaken and they will realize what is happening to our
children in our society. That they will encourage our children
to boldly stand for values and for right and to
stand against some of this evil presence to come off
of these devices. And that means that adults, parents, teachers, preachers,
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everyone's going to have to do their part.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Senator Blackbird. Always appreciate you. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
You got it. Take care by now.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Thanks for listening to teen forty seven with Clay and
Buck
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He is,
of course, one of President Trump's sons, a guy I've
known since we were both in grade school, and he's
doing amazing things running the Trump Organization. As you all know.
He's also got a new book out, Under Siege, My
Family's Fight to save our Nation, and a portion of
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the proceeds we'll go to Turning Point USA to help
continue Charlie Kirk's mission. Eric, thanks for making the time
for us.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's great to be back on talk to us if.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You would for a second here about the because we
have to dive into this news of the day. I
think it hit everybody like I don't know if it
was that much of a surprise given what a jerky's
been lately. But what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Listen, the guy has been a jerk, he hasn't been funny,
but honestly, I think the network uses a way to
get him out based on bad ratings. I mean, look
at what ratings are on ABC and NBC and CBS
right now, you know, relative to call some of the
other shows, some of even the cable shows. Right, look
at my wife, Look at Laura. I mean, our show
is getting two point six, you know, two point eight
(01:10):
million people, you know on a Saturday night, and you
look at CNN during the week, and if they can
pull five six, seven hundred thousand people, it's like, you know,
they're they're doing great for themselves, right, So it clearly
shows that the content is not working. People are no
longer amused. It's not funny to make fun of thirty
one year old kids who are getting assassinated on any soil,
certainly not US soil, especially somebody who is as beloved
(01:31):
as our friend Charlie. And I'm glad they got rid
of this jerk.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Eric.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Where were you when you found out about what happened
to Charlie Kirk last week? And what was your immediate reaction?
Because you've got young kids like he does and like
Buck does, and my kids are getting a little bit older.
But you travel around, you do a lot of public events,
so does your wife. What was your reaction when you
saw that?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know, honestly, guys, I hate say it was like
deja vuodah Butler, right, I mean I walked into my office,
my my sister came running up to me. Lard grabbed me.
She goes, you know, to Charlie shot and it looks
like Charlie's dead. I mean it was right after and
obviously at that point it was making its round on
social media, and you know, I uh, you know, you
look at the movement of the body and and and
you knew it was devastating. And you know me, I've
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competed in all the shooting sports my entire life. You know,
you could you could tell it was a high power rifle.
I could tell instantly that was high power rifle just
by the sound of the shot, and and and my
heart sank. I mean, you know, Charlie was a friend.
I've been on the stage with him a hundred times,
as you guys have. You know, We've we've done a
lot of events together over the last you know, ten years,
and and you know, I've stood on that same stage
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a thousand times myself, you know, in swing states all
across the country. And then there there were times leading
up to elections where we're doing five six events, you know,
like that a day, you know, all over every victory office,
every factory, every you know, standing on top of John
Deere attractors with a bull horn, and and you know,
I mean, my heart sunk a young guy who created
one of the greatest political movements in this country, who
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changed the entire youth vote in the United States. And
you know, they thought they could get rid of some
guy's voice by using a bullet to expunge somebody's life.
And honestly, when you look at you know, one point
four million people march across London, when you see pretorious
South Africa and marches in honor of Charlie, when you
see churches full all across the country, and the days
that follow, you know, they only cemented his legacy. They
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didn't expunge his legacy. They cemented his legacy. And you know,
and Charlie, Charlie lives on. And you know, we can
never leave that stage, guys, I will never ever ever
get off that stage. And I think he was a
great inspiration for all.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well he is and certainly your father continues to be.
And that moment you mentioned, Butler where fortunately a very
different outcome there for that day with respect to your father,
and that he was able to pump his fist in
the air and tell everyone to continue to fight Eric
probably the most iconic single moment I think in my
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life in American politics. I don't know of anything that
would really compete with that. That the power of that
visual that I know in your book under Siege, my
family's fight to save our nation, you get into a
lot of this. One of the good things, though, is
that this is the greatest political comeback and really the
(04:13):
most inspiring I think story of overcoming a lot of
the forces of darkness in this country just by telling
your family's story and telling about what you your brother,
your sister, you know, your dad, and what you've all
been through.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah. So, guys, I started working on this three years ago,
and you know, I was a guy. I ran the
whole company, so everything outside of Washington, DC and the
family really saw on my shoulders, and you know, all
of a sudden, it was impeachment one. It was impeachment two.
It was the Russia hoax. It was a dirty dossier.
I was getting called from the FBI. I hear you
have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower, you know,
communicating directly with the Kremlin. It was obviously a total sham.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Then they sent every da every age after us, whether
it was New York or Washington, d C. Or Fulton County, Georgia.
You know the stories of all of those. I got
one hundred and twelve subpoenas. I became the most subpoenid
person in American history, you know, by these radicals. Then
they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.
They took my father off the ballot in Colorado and
then and then Maine. You know, they came after us,
(05:12):
They came after our employees. They raided mar Lago, they
raided our homes. I mean, it was non stop siege.
They wanted to bankrupt us, they wanted to see us gone,
They wanted to take away our voice. They wanted the
dozens of gag orders we all had, and these these
nonsense cases, all of which we won, and the vast
majority of them fell on my shoulders because again, they
came after the company based on the fact that my
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father had constitutional protections, and you know, and we beat
these guys. We beat them back at every single instance.
And and so I started writing this book under siege
because that's what they wanted to do. And then, you know,
I had my two kids on my lap. When when
Butler came around and you know, watched my father's head
almost get blown off while having a you know, five
and seven year old sitting on my lap, four and
six year old actually at that time sitting on my lap,
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I mean in high definition TV, and you know, it's
you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to
do it again, and you know, with Tom at the
golf course. And then I saw what happened to Charlie.
And that's what they wanted, guys. They wanted our voices gone,
they wanted our movement gone. They wanted my father gone.
They wanted me off that stage. They wanted Don off
that stage. They sure as hell don't let you, guys,
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for for everything you stand for and how principal the
two of you guys have been. And that's what Underseage
is is about. It's about all the behind the scenes
stories of how they tried to just decimate us, the
corruption of government, and frankly and thank god, how we won,
how we triumphed in something that was such an impossible
you know, I mean, endless fight that went on.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
For one thing I want to ask Eric, is Clay
told me this from me? I refused to read the
Snake Tapper book, because I just felt like it was trying.
You know, he's the arsonist who's then calling the fire department, right,
It just felt too But one interesting revelation from the book,
and Clay read the whole book, So I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
That I did it so everybody else.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I didn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He jumped on that hand grenade. For the rest of us.
We appreciated that one. But I uh that that Biden
was behind closed doors constantly with glee in his eyes
talking about how your dad was going to go to prison.
Does that surprise you at all? Like did you think
that there was still some sense of fair play in
that Biden White House but then when that came out?
(07:18):
Or or did you know that that was that? That
really the whole time they wanted to lock your dad
in a cell?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Guys. I was the one when they rated mar Laga.
Who's shouting on TV? And I you think the FBI
raided mar A Lago without the explicit permission of the
President of the United States, Like, give me a freaking break.
And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jake Capper.
Laura was on a show. She was on CA She goes, listen,
he everybody realizes this guy doesn't have his mental faculties.
And he starts screaming at her on the show, how
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are you the person to diagnose, you know, his his cogibilities.
Don't you think you're offending children with stutters around the country?
And Laura, I mean she would not put up with
a nonsense. She fought right back. And then sure enough,
you know, you look at the title and you can
maybe remind me of the exact title. It was like,
you know, a Biden's you know, a cognitive decline and
the cover up by the mainstream media sitting there saying
(08:06):
the irony of this, when when six months ago he
actually called my wife to apologize, like, you know, the
irony of this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling
at Laura Trump for saying that we all realize everybody
in this country realizes that the guy's not exactly the sharpest.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Tool in the He said Laura was making fun of
his stutter.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, which is just insane.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, And it screamed at her for for quote unquote
diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD. I mean, give me,
give me a break. And then he writes a book
about how you know, the media misled the world, and
I mean the great irony of this, but you know,
that's why, honestly, that's example nine and twenty of why
people detest the mainstream media in this country and why
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honestly independent voices like yours, you know, are moving the needle,
and why no one watches CBS, and why you know,
people like Jimmy Kimmell are getting fired and and you know.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So on Under Siege is the book My Family's Fight
to Save our Nation. We're talking with Eric Trump. You
are a business guy. You're traveling all over the world
doing deals. And one place that I think is emblematic
of how much the culture has shifted is suddenly everybody
wants to play on your family's fantastic golf courses. Again,
(09:16):
I know that that's a good thing, but does a
part of you just think when these deals get done, man,
so many of these business people are complete and total cowards.
Your dad was right in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty.
They try to cancel him, they kick him off, and
then he wins the popular vote. He's now standing, you know,
doing toast with the King and Queen of England last night,
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and all these business guys suddenly, you know, they show
back up and they're.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like, oh, we always loved you. Oh let's go with
the you.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I mean, this is is business one of the most
shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys
are grinding for years and now everybody loves you.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
But it's got to be a part of you.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
It's got to be like, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I got canceled guys by every bank in the country
for doing nothing wrong, only because I chose to wear
a Make America Great Again hat. I'm talking about golf
courses in upstate New York. Things that had absolutely nothing
to do with politics. Things, you know, entities that had
been around for twenty five years, that had been perfect customers,
and they turned us off. Capital One, the worst of
all of them, turned us off like we were dogs.
(10:18):
I mean, they cancel three hundred accounts in the middle
of the night, and then all of a sudden, every
single day I get, you know, calls from the heads
of the and you would know the names of every
single one of them. They are the bankers on Wall
Street High Eric. You know, we really missed the relationship
and we'd really love to get back together. I mean,
if you're waiting to come over my house, I'd love
to take you to dinner. I'd love you to treat it.
You know, it'd be great if we could try and
rekindle the relationship. And I'm sitting there, guys, and I
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have very little tolerance for this nonsense, you know, especially now,
I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings, and you know,
I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff. And you're
sitting there saying you dirty. Can't stay it on the radio, guys,
But you know, like I remember and I will not forget,
and you know it is it is. It is shameless.
Listen Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's come around in a big way. And
I actually, unimately believe he loves my father and loves
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our family, and I have a nice relationship with him now.
But he was sitting behind me at inauguration. Was the
first time I've ever met him. And I'm saying, they're saying,
you're sitting behind me an inauguration. Yet in twenty twenty,
you spent four hundred million dollars against this. You put
four hundred and by the way, you go on Facebook
to try and find a polling location, you know, or
a voting location, a ballot, you know, and guess what,
(11:22):
every single one would come up for Biden. Not a
single one would come up for Trump. It's like, you know,
they rig the algorithms they put countly right, they turned
down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden, everybody's
smiling and happy. And you know, I'm not saying that
people can't change your mind, and I think he legitimately
did and is legitimately on the team now. But it's
you know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight
that your family has put forward for the country, and
it is it is a phenomenal first year in this administration.
We're not just saying this because he's your dad, not
just sitting it's Sarah, because I think I met you
when you were ten years old or something for the
first time. But this is the truth. It has been
(12:03):
an incredible first year and what your dat has come
through is the most amazing political battle in my lifetime.
I think in any of our lifetime, I don't think
anything would come close to it. And the fact that
you're giving a portion of the proceeds of the book
to turning Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy. I
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think just speaks to how much you care about well,
your friend Charlie, his family, and also the mission that
he left behind. So the book is under siege, my
family's fight to save our nation. Go get your copies. Eric,
welcome anytime, my friend, Please come back soon.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Thanks you guy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
We bring in Peter Navarro right now. Peter, you were
just talking with President Trump. I believe he's on his
way back from England. What was that conversation? Like, what
can you tell us about it?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
You never talk about what we're talking about. But I
was delayed because of President Trump. But what I can
tell you is this that they are out to get us.
And the new book I've got I went to prison
so you won't have to is all about how not
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only did they come after me, they came after President Trump,
they came after Steve Bannon. They targeted everybody I served
with in the White House in some manner with these
tools of law fare. And when I was in prison
for four months, for defending the Constitution. I had the
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discipline to do a daily journal talk about these things,
and I got this book out because if we don't
hold these people accountable, they're going to just keep doing it.
Everybody I served with in the White House the first
termam I was there for all four years, got targeted
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by the left in some way. The easiest thing that
would happen is they'd have to pay hundreds of thousands
of dollars or millions of dollars in legal fees. That's
the That's the best they could do serve in their country.
The worst you could do is what just fringing happened
with my brother Charlie Kirk taking a bullet by an assassin,
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and then it then they four times they tried to
put President Trump in prison, two times they tried to
kill him, Bannon myself in prison, they Mike Flynn, Woody Giuliani.
So this is not a good time for this Republic.
(14:43):
But we're fighting back, sir, And that's why I wrote
I went to prison so you won't have to. And
by the way, I don't know if you saw the
speech I gave at the Republican National Convention, but that
speech was given the night of the day I actually
got out of prison, and it's a wake up call.
(15:03):
So I hope your listeners and viewers will pay attention
to this case. We can't let them get power backed.
They will keep doing this again until we hold them accountable.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Peter Navarro with us. Now, we started four months in prison.
What was prison like? I can't imagine. It was a
very fun experience, but hopefully most of people will never know.
And the idea that you were there for political persecution
is even more bonkers. But in terms of the physical
day to day for four months is like what in
your experience?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, that's one of the stories that I went to prison,
so you won't have to you know, it's a law
fair story about kind of how I got in there.
It's a love story about how my fiance Pixie and
I were able to manage the trauma of four months
in prison. But then the inside there's a couple of
things going on. I mean, you see kind of day
(15:59):
to day life of of how for example, you know,
I lost twelve pounds, I got COVID twice because of
the of the conditions in there. You know, I saw
some some some no shortage of violence, no shortage of danger,
but no shortage of humanity as well. I mean, they're
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they're they're good people in there who did bad things,
not just bad people who did bad things. And it's
just trying to navigate your way through that is a test,
the test of who you are and what you stand for.
And there's a funny story the beginning of I went
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to prison so you won't have to about getting me
getting surrounded in the yard by three guys and I'm thinking,
you know, okay, what's going to go wrong here? And
one of them starts talking about how how they liked me.
He's the word like they did, and uh, they say,
why is because I wasn't a snitch, And inside and
(17:04):
I kind of kept a straight face, but inside I'm
laughing my ass off because I'm trying to figure out
like the moral equivalence between me refusing a congressional subpoena
to defend the constitution and these guys in the classical
snitch is not not snitching on their fellow criminals. So
(17:27):
there's stuff like that. There's some significant moments. I saved
one guy's life, I arguably helping him get some emergency
medical care.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And and I think one of the most interesting stories
inside the story is how I became essentially an investigative
reporter that uncovered a five billion dollar, billion dollar scandal
inside the Bureau of Prisons that now that I'm on
the outside, I've been able to actually solve. So I
(17:59):
think that that's like a unique historical moment that you'll
never see. And I tell that story as well.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
But where were you, Peter on election night? And what
was your reaction to Trump's victory?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Oh? This is great. So I get out of prison
on July seventeenth, two days after my birthday. The son
of a bitch has kept me in prison. It wouldn't
let me out two days early for my birthday. I
give the speech that night, and then Pitchy and I
immediately go on the campaign trail on the on the
Trump bus, and we were going to Georgia, We're going
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to Pennsylvania, We're going to North Carolina. Working really hard.
We'd go I'd go to sometimes I'd be the warm up,
one of the warm up speakers for a Trump rally,
things like that. And so the night of the night
of the election night is like at midnight into three
(18:57):
am in the morning. I'm with the boss, and where
I think it was? Where was it to moin me
somewhere out he's He's going on for like two hours
in a speech like he loves to do and stuff
like that, leaving.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I think it was Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
If I'm not forgot.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Michigan, that's right, it was Grand Rapids. We're up in
you know, the usual basketball hockey rink up in the country,
you and I love up in you know, flyover country. Uh,
and he hits about three in the morning before we
get out of there and we land uh back in DC.
(19:35):
I don't know, ticks the morning, something like that. And
you know, I was there was no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
He was going to win that race for Peter and Navarro.
The show is ending here, but I want you guys
to go check it out. I went to prison so
you wouldn't have to won't have to a love and
law fair story. In trump Land, you're listening to Team
forty seven with and Buck. We are joined now by
Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going to dive into
(20:05):
President Trump's announcement last week that he's going to be
bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which, according to many
measures of violent crime on a per capita basis, may
well be the most dangerous city in the entire country.
But I want to start with this, Senator Blackburn. First
of all, I missed you in Knoxville, where you and
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I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game, which did
not end well for the good guys in this case
the team wearing orange. But I know that you were
all over the place there and it's a sporting event.
But I bet you had a similar experience as I did,
Senator Blackburn, which is the number of people who came
(20:50):
up to me that wanted to talk about what happened
to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event, was unlike
anything I've ever seen before. No One usually people want
to come up and it's almost exclusively, Hey, who's going
to win the game? What do you think is going
to happen? Almost everybody that came up to me at
the sporting event wanted to talk about the Charlie Kirk situation.
(21:12):
I've not asked you this, but I bet you found
it to be similar as well. And I know you
have a grandson that attends the same school as my sons,
and the impact on young men in particular of this
assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But their response has been
I have seen very profoundly courageous. I've been very encouraged.
(21:35):
So that's a big prelude, But I'm curious what you
found in both those situations.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Yes, indeed, I will tell you. I have been just
so honored by the conduct of my grandsons and their
classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie kirk
in for the remembrance of nine to eleven, and our
grandson even noticed that the flags had not been moved
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to half staff before before class started, So he walked
out to the flagpole and he lowered the flag to
half staff, and I think one of the teachers kind
of got in behind him a little bit about it,
but he said he was following the president's order for
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all flags to fly at half staff until six pm
on Sunday. And I said, you know, if that's what
you get in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing.
Honoring someone who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their
lives in our military who fought after nine to eleven
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in all of those brave first responders and doing what
the President said was the order of the day, which
was lowering the flags. And you're right about being at
University of Tennessee, we could hardly get through the crowd,
like you said, without people saying, look, we stand with
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Charlie Kirk, we stand with family values in Tennessee values
and morals, and we stand with the President. And it
was just such an outpouring I think for so many
college students, whether you were there in Circle Park or
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at one of the fraternity houses or wherever play, it
was astounding to me that these kids were such a
fan of Charlie Kirk. They listened to him, they followed him,
they enjoyed his podcast, and they wanted to They love
the way he speaks truth and have so gravitated to that,
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and they loved President Trump, and they just wanted to
register their shock and their disappointment with what had happened
and their grief in many respects. And we had a
great sermon yesterday at our church and the minister said
something I think is so important is that while we
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turn the other cheek, and we know to turn the
other cheek through evil, we cannot turn a blind eye,
and that is incumbent on us to remember that we
have to push back and fight against evil. And it
is pure evil that caused someone to try to silence
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Charlie Kirk. And as we have seen, his message now
will be more powerful than ever. The outpouring of support
for Charlie in his work for Erica and their children.
It is not singular, but it is global in nature,
(24:57):
and indeed, I think this is truly a turning point.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also
getting some attention in the news cycle today is the
move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and
bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to
help tackle the out of control murder rate in the
(25:23):
city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know
about this so far, what stage is the planning and
do you believe that this would be able to have
a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful.
And what we know is this Cash Pattel gave me
a commitment when he came to meet with me before
his hearing for his FBI confirmation and I'm on Senate
Judiciary Committee. I asks him in my office and then
(25:59):
again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis
and getting an FBI surge in Memphis. Under President Trump's
first term, we had a program there called Legend. It
had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed
something back. So this summer for two months we had
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Operation Viper. There have been over five hundred arrest There
have already been over one hundred indictments. We know Memphis
has one hundred games. They have a per capital murder
rate of twenty five hundred per one hundred thousand. That
is why it's the most dangerous city in the country.
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We know that during the Memphis had the best August
it has had in years. Whether it's murders or rapes
or sets burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been down
and significantly down. Some the best in twenty years, some
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the best in over five years. So this has made
a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over.
They've worked closely with Memphis Police, with the Mayor of Memphis,
and they need to continue this multi phase approach and
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it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So
in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you
will have the National Guard. Now they can go in,
they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can
do traffic. There are so many things they can do.
(27:50):
And this will allow Memphis Police who do have arrest
powers to go in and apprehend others these gangs and
get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD
needs to be focused is continuing to apprehend these gang
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leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are
doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these sets.
You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we
have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class
A railroads I forty that goes from the east coast
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to the west coast, and you also have fed X.
So when you've got all of this with the river,
the rail the highways that air, cargo theft is a
big issue and these gangs have created processes to go
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in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft.
So being able to have the police work with these
companies whether it's rail or water, our highways and I
get a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important also,
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so the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They
are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis
to be safe, We want it to be prosperous. It
is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant it has
a promising future, and a big part of that is
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getting the crime under control.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Center Blackburn, I just Buck and I started off the
show talking about the dark soul of the left in
this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly
to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is a
big question, and it's one that I've been thinking about
(29:59):
a lot. How do we fix this? Because if your
soul is so dark that when you see a father
murdered in cold blood simply for sitting in front of
an open mic and saying tell me whatever you believe too,
the soul of so many people is profoundly evil here.
How do we fix the rot in our culture?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
What can we do.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Well?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
This is something that talking with people through the process
of legislation that I have worked on with the Kids
Online Safety Act and trying to get that passed, And
you look at what these young people are picking up
on social media, they become isolated. They get onto these
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platforms like Reddit and discord, and they get into these
discussion groups, and instead of it being a tool that
opens their mind and something for good, it narrows their
thought process and they become very angry. So I think
the church has a role to play in this. I
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think parents have a role to play in this. A
governance for social media platforms have a role to play
in this. Looking at the mental health of kids. That
is something that has to be done. It's not going
to be fixed by one thing or another thing. But
I do believe that strong families can help. I do
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believe that getting kids off of these social media platforms
that will help. I do think that incur and I
will say this, I think the Governor of Utah has
done an exemplary job in this getting kids off these devices.
You know, right now, the studies that we have seen
(31:56):
as we've worked on keeping kids safe and try to
hold social media to account, you know, kids are spending
Teenagers are spending as much as eight hours a day
on the phone, eight hours. Middle school kids are spending
about five. And when they're doing this, they're being exposed
(32:17):
to things that young minds are not equipped to see. This.
I mean, this is when we have ratings on movies
in theaters. You can't take a Chile to an X
rated movie. You can't sell them alcohol or tobacco or firearms.
You can't take them to a pornographic show or a
(32:40):
strip club or sell them magazines. But on the virtual space,
they're exposed to it twenty four to seven and they
become desensitized. And you know, I just I am and
some of my friends, we are just praying, deeply, praying
that skills will fall from eyes and that people will
(33:03):
awaken and they will realize what is happening to our
children in our society. That they will encourage our children
to boldly stand for values and for right and to
stand against some of this evil presence to come off
of these devices. And that means that adults, parents, teachers, preachers,
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everyone's going to have to do their part.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Senator Blackbird. Always appreciate you. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
You got it. Take care by now.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Thanks for listening to teen forty seven with Clay and
Buck
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