October 19, 2025 • 41 mins
A deep dive into President Donald Trump’s historic 36-hour diplomatic marathon and the groundbreaking Gaza peace deal. Clay and Buck open the hour by contrasting Trump’s high-energy international diplomacy with Joe Biden’s limited schedule, highlighting Trump’s whirlwind trip to Israel and Egypt, his speeches to the Knesset, meetings with world leaders, and the signing of a landmark ceasefire agreement that secured the release of all Israeli hostages and nearly 2,000 Palestinian detainees. The hosts emphasize that this achievement positions Trump as a dominant figure in Middle East peace negotiations—surpassing past presidents from Carter to Obama.
The discussion features reactions from unlikely sources: left-leaning media figures and celebrities such as Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and Joe Scarborough, who publicly acknowledged Trump’s success. Clay and Buck play clips from CNN, MSNBC, and prominent Democrats praising Trump’s role in brokering peace, noting how even Trump’s fiercest critics are conceding victory. They explore whether this diplomatic triumph will resonate with everyday Americans or remain a major news story without shifting public opinion, particularly among Jewish voters. The conversation touches on cultural and political dynamics within the Jewish community, analyzing whether Trump’s achievement could influence voting trends.
President Donald Trump meets with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to push for a ceasefire and a lasting peace agreement in the Russia-Ukraine war.
Clay and Buck discuss Trump’s role as mediator between Zelensky and Vladimir Putin, comparing the dynamic to high-stakes negotiations and emphasizing Trump’s unique ability to command respect from global adversaries. Zelensky’s remarks underscore the need for security guarantees and bilateral agreements, while Trump signals a potential diplomatic breakthrough.
The conversation shifts to economic leverage in the conflict, with Trump announcing that India will stop buying Russian oil, a move that could cripple Moscow’s ability to skirt sanctions. Clay and Buck explain how India’s previous role as a middleman for Russian energy exports helped Putin evade penalties, and why cutting off this lifeline could reshape the war’s trajectory. Trump also hints at military deterrence, mentioning Tomahawk missiles as part of U.S. support for Ukraine, while stressing his goal to end the war without escalating to direct strikes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. It
is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments alongside
of his administration. And I never would have believed the day,
but as I look down at the roster, we have
praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Joe Scarborough,
(00:35):
and an incredible montage our team put together of all
different sorts of Democrats singing Donald Trump's praises.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think this is frankly.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Remarkable and I think it deserves all of the public acclamation.
We will run through some of those in a moment,
but I just wanted to hit you with this buck.
In the past twenty four hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule.
Remember we went from my cousin mid I was gonna say,
(01:09):
my cousin Vinnie. We went from Weekend at Bernie's Apologies
to my cousin Vinnie, great film Weekend at Bernie's Presidency
of Joe Biden. They tried to run Weekend at Bernie's
two where they would hide him. He could only do
events from like ten to two. Then they would hide
him if they ever did any press availabilities. They gave
him note cards to call on members of the press
(01:30):
with pre screened questions. Listen to what Trump has done
just in the last twenty four hours. He flew to Israel,
spoke to the press there in Israel, met with Israeli leaders,
Spoke to the press again, met with families of the hostages.
Delivered an hour long speech to the Kanesse that is
(01:51):
basically the Israeli Congress, did another interview, flew to Egypt,
met with the President of Egypt, spoke to the press
US again, took photos and chatted individually with dozens of
world leaders. Signed the historic Gaza peace Deal, delivered another speech,
met privately with world leaders. Flew back to the United States.
(02:14):
He touched ground publicly walking across the grass of the
south lawn of the White House. I believe buck at
three am one of the most extraordinary thirty six hours.
He took off at three pm, thirty six hours before
when all the way to the Middle East, did all
of those things, got back off the plane at three am,
(02:36):
and today is celebrating and awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow,
Erica the Presidential Medal of Freedom for another public event.
For those of you who travel internationally, and I imagine
a lot of you out there have done this at
some point in time, it is buck you just did this.
(02:57):
You just flew to Taiwan and you just came back.
Traveling internationally is one of the most draining things that
you can do, skipping across twelve hours of time zones,
all these different things for anybody, no matter their age.
For a seventy nine year old president who has to
be at the top of his game delivering one of
the most consequential and I think well delivered addresses of
(03:20):
his entire political career, we're talking about superhuman, extraordinarily unbelievable
levels of mental focus and energy to be able to
put all this together. For anyone, whether you are the
CEO of a company, whether you're working in construction, whether
you're a twenty two year old listening to us right now,
(03:42):
that's an unbelievable thirty six hours of accomplishment. And coming
on the heels of Joe Biden, it is even more extraordinary.
I think what a thirty six hours President Trump just
put together.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It's been fun just watching all of the Trump adversary
media having to find ways to package this for their audience. Overwhelmingly,
they've taken the you know, he's terrible on They say
a bunch of things and then they go but I
have to say, this is pretty darn good, and I
(04:16):
don't think that there could be any more obvious. There
could be no more clear endorsement of the massive victory
here than even Trump's biggest detractors, at least in the media,
are having to say, yeah, I think this is a
pretty good one. Here's a great example, So Clay, You'll
remember when I did the Bill Maher show before this
(04:36):
last election, and there were a lot of things that
were interesting about that. One is I was like, you
guys are about to get absolutely smoked in this election,
and the audience did not boo. I think they knew
that things were not looking good for them at that point.
It was what late September, I think, before the election,
so maybe about a month ago. And the other thing
(04:56):
was I said to Bill Maher. I think this was
on camera, but I definitely said it to him off camera.
I said, you know that he's really not going to
destroy the country, and it's going to be fine, right,
I mean, you actually know that. And I swear he
looked at me and he said, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think he actually might destroy America. He seemed to
truly believe that. Well, Clay, here he is. This has
cut three having to face reality play it.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I always say this, you cannot ever deny success. You
just have to give your respect, even if it's not
your thing. Don't have the humility to give it up
for enormous success on any level. Trump not my choice.
Didn't vote for him, but a lot of people did.
(05:39):
And he's I can't deny the success. I can't either. Yeah,
and he's the president, and he's the president.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
That's That's pretty much where any honest left of center
person in this country has to be.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right now, Clay, you can't deny the success. Guys. It's there.
It's it's in front of all of us.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If Joe Biden had gotten all of the hostages out
of Gaza and delivered a sterling speech giving the virtues
of freedom and American leadership, and traveled and just run
through that thirty six hour stretch, he couldn't have done
any of it. Let's be clear, and that's why you
and me and most of you out there did not
(06:22):
vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. Kamala Harris could
not have done any of this, and she's twenty years
younger than President Trump. But if they had, I would
have come on and said, hey, you know what, this
is a good result. As I give credit. Bill Clinton
came out and said it, let's play this. I mean,
this is Trump is so successful. Now you and I
have and we're gonna see Trump's praises because we think
(06:45):
he's having the greatest presidency of the twenty first century.
I think we are in the midst I hope some
of you take the time to wake up and smile
and be grateful for what we are all experiencing right now,
because I think it's about as good as it gets.
Here is a montage put together of Democrats and left
wing media giving Trump credit for the Gaza deal.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
This has cut seven.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
This was very much a peacemaker's speech.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's a terrific day for the hostage families.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
It's a terrific day for President Trump for our national interests.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Do you give him credit for this?
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Certainly?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I mean this is an incredible accomplishment, an incredible novel.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
President Trump deserves a lot of credit for bringing the
parties together.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
He should get a lot of credit. I mean, this
was his deal. He worked this out.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Listen, he got the deal across the finish line.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
There's no question things seem.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Sort of possible now in a way that they didn't
necessarily before.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
A better future ahead. That's what today represented.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was so so powerful and unbelievably emotional.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We would not be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Okay, let me give you an idea of who was
saying all of that. That's the Washington Post. David Ignatius,
historian John Meacham, Representative Adam Smith, Democrats from Washington, former
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, Senator Mark Kelly, current Democrat
from Arizona. Jim Scutto. I'm not sure how you pronounce
(08:09):
his name. SHOOTO, I don't watch a lot. I also
went to my high school, like Fauci. Did I know
this because these guys get big, get big request to
come back and speak at Regis, But yours truly on
the first or second largest radio platform whatever in America.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Not a lot of love from the high school.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
MSNBC's David Noriega, Ted Deutsch, Democrat from Florida, and Arab
Israeli negotiator Aaron David Miller. Also Stephen Colbert even said
cut nine. Donald Trump did something good. Had to make
a joke about it, but cut nine.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Today thanks to Trump's newly broken ceasefire in Gaza, all
living Israeli hostages and almost truth allis Kalastan re prisonally
have been released. Okay, it's important. Credit where credit is due.
Donald Trump did something good.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Are we still canceled?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I tried. I tried, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Jimmy Kimmel even said good work. Now they got to
make jokes on the backside, but they're actually giving President
Trump credit. This is how successful Trump has suddenly become.
He has united Jimmy Kemmel and Stephen Colbert in praise.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Cut eight. What a day for Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
You know what, He finally did something positive today and
I want to give him credit for it because I
know he's not the type to take credit for himself.
Trump was in Israel and Egypt today's to celebrate a
ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. All twenty Israeli hostages are home.
After seven hundred thirty eight days, almost two thousand Palesitian
(09:53):
prisoners and Jim Kneys have been released. And well, we're
only in the first phase of what will undoubtedly be
a long and tricky says. The fact is the bombing
has stopped, the hostages have been released, and Trump deserves
some of the praise for that. And so I know
it sounds crazy to say, but good work on that one,
President Trump. Now maybe you can not invade Portland.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Just an idea, Okay, like this is I understand they
got to slap him on the back and make a
joke or whatever. But the fact that Colbert Kimmel, CNN
and MSNBC are all lining up for much of their
day buck and having to say President Trump, get a
good job. I do wonder what their moron audiences are
(10:34):
thinking here. You and I are not surprised this happened,
but this is what we voted for.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
We were right.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I would also add that they're limiting the praise to
getting the hostages back, but the more comprehensive deal here.
There's never been anything like this in media's peace negotiations
involving Hamas, involving the future of the state of Israel.
I mean, this is enormous as a frame work for
(11:01):
the Middle East going forward, and they're not saying that
because Clay it's one thing to point out, Okay, fine,
he got the hostages back. We all have to admit
that's good. I would also note who was it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I can't remember, but somebody said two thousand Palestinian prisoners.
Those are detainees, they're terror in New York.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's a different The New York Times called it a
hostage trade, as if the criminals that were under you know,
a lock and key were the same as the hostages
that were kidnapped. So I just want to note that
on the one side you have people, you have civilians
who were kidnapped at gunpoint for no reason other than
the barbarism and hatred of Hamas. And on the other
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side you have people who were breaking the Geneva Convention
in every way imaginable, fighting as a non established military,
killing civilians, and all of the things that that you
could point to anyway. But they are trying to limit
this to the hostages coming back, and they're not what
they're not willing to say their audience Clay. Even in
(12:01):
these clips.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
For the most part, some of the more news people
are alluding to this. Aaron David Miller is actually a
sharp guy. I know him from years back, and he
knows the region well. There are people out there who
are lifetime policy wonks who are saying that part of
it is a huge breakthrough too, And that's something they
(12:22):
won't say on Kimmel's show. They won't say that Donald
Trump not only succeeded as president in getting these hostages back,
but Clay, he has succeeded more on mid EA's peace
than Obama than Biden, then Bush, then Clinton, then Reagan,
then go back, Den Carter, keep going back.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That they will not say.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Let me ask you this, and I don't know. I'm
curious what your answer is. We can talk about it
when we come back. As we're coming up against a break.
How much do you think the average American cares or
is paying attention to what's going on right now in
the Middle East? In other words, does this move Donald
Trump's approval rating in the United States in any kind
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of appreciable way, or people like you and me and
all of our listeners that are engaged on a day
to day basis in the news are aware of this,
But is this resonating with your average dad or mom
sitting in a car line picking up kids at school, Like,
is this something that matters?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I really don't think so for the most part. I
think for the I think for the Jewish American community,
especially because we had Carol Markowitz on yesterday. She has
family in Israel, she has family that are in the
IDF right, So that is very noteworthy for people that
feel a direct connection to what's going on over there.
(13:44):
But day to day over here, this will be swept
up in the broader news cycle very quickly. And I
think there's nothing wrong with leaving the diplomacy to the diplomat, well,
in this case, to Donald Trump, the diplomat in chief,
and moving back to issues here on the home front.
You know that Trump has helped clean that mess up
(14:05):
or bring that mess to an end. Let's get our
focus back here at home. I mean, there's there's no
need for us to have a split focus. I think
that takes away from any of the initiatives. And they're
not the stuff with the with Portland and Chicago and
the border and and trade deals with China. That's all
still underway too. This is a big news story more
than it is a big Main Street story. I think
(14:27):
that's fair good analysis. Now we've got Zolensky coming to
the White House on Friday. Within that construct, what is
MSNBC and CNN going to say if Trump actually brings
peace between Ukraine and Russia too? Remember that scene in
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc when they.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Open the answer is going to be one hundred percent
for me. But yes, I'm not forgetting any of those scenes.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It will it will be like that at MSNBC.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
If Trump ends the Russia Ukraine war, they will just
melt in real like the there won't be anything left.
They will spontaneously combust. Total protonic reversal. I mean it'll
be a total I don't know what they'll do over there.
All right, we'll come back into.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
This year, I say, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Oh yeah,
when they look at the arc, well we have double,
we have double. I was thinking when they drink from
the chalice at the end and oh double the other one.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, there's actually double ones.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, I mean it will be a Laurence O'donald' show
might be more like that, and whatever other shows are on,
like Chris Hayes might be more like The Raiders of
the Lost Arc. But people will melt or evaporate in
real time if Trump actually does the peace deal with
Russia Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He's
got a brand new book out today. It's called Under Siege.
It is burning up the best seller ranks. I think
I saw it posted that it is the number one
release on Amazon today, which is a super impressive accomplishment already.
(15:59):
And we'll get into the book in a minute, Eric,
but we appreciate you coming on with us having said
that we'll get to the book. But are you still
kind of processing how incredible what yesterday was like in
the Middle East and your dad having the thirty six
hours that he had where even as we started off
the show, MSNBC, CNN, Heck, Colbert and Kimmel came out
(16:23):
and said, hey, he did something really impressive. You know
when MSNBC, CNN and the late night hosts are praising
you that your dad must have really accomplished something. What
was that like for you to watch.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Well, guys, a year ago he was literally serving French
fries at McDonald's and now he's just served at least
you know, literally it was exactly a year ago yesterday
he was doing the French fribroutine and riding around in
a garbage truck. And you know, he just solves Middle
East for peace. And I think the most impressive part
to me. Listen, you look at almost at every conflict
around the world, whether it's you know, World War One,
World War two, Vietnam, Korea, right, you had kind of
(16:57):
a winner, and you had losure of those wars as
pre determined. And here it actually feels like everybody won, right.
I mean, you have you have people on both sides
of the conflict coming out and thanking him and thanking
him profusely for ending the madness, ending the death and destruction,
and then you have an entire world that's kind of
coalesced around this victory. And I just think that's a
really beautiful thing and one of those things that only
(17:18):
he could could pull off. And I'm proud. I'm proud
of him as a son. I mean, listen, you know
we're gonna talk about the siege at some point. You
know today, but you know everything that we've we've gone through,
everything that they tried to do to destroy us. Guys,
it all became worth it for me yesterday, right. I
mean there are times when you couldn't quite you know,
couldn't couldn't quite get there.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Was it worth it?
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Was it not? It was brutal. They tried to destroy
your life. And then you see a man up there
with the entire world respecting America. You know, the death
and destruction and evilness has ended. Conflicts all over the
world are ending. You know, pieces being brought. You know,
some son will go back to their mother tonight. Who
would have other why he's not gone back. She would
(18:01):
have been finding out that that person was dead had
it not been for his actions. And I think that
makes this whole worth it.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
The book is under siege, My families fight to save
our nation. Where with Eric Trump now talking about it,
and Eric, I have a longtime law enforcement friend who,
as you're he's a big Trump supporter. And as the
whole situation was playing out, the effort to use unprecedented
law fair not just against your dad, as you have
(18:29):
pointed out before, against the Trump organization, against Trump family,
members against all of you. Really, anyone named Trump became
a target as you're going through that, he kept saying,
A normal and by this, I just mean an every
day and everyday person would be broken by one federal indictment, meaning,
oh my gosh, how will I ever be able to
(18:51):
fight this? And and well, you know what is going
to do my reputation? Your dad and your family were
going through four nonsense criminal indictment and some of the
civil stuff that you were having good deal with, including
from Letitia James, which we were just discussing her situation.
What was that like day in and day out? Did
it just feel surreal? Did it feel like your dad
(19:11):
was prepared for it and was able to be a
happy warrior through the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, bring us into that.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Yeah, well, well listen, you know, honestly I was. I
was a tip to the spear with that whole thing.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
My father had certain constitutional protections that kept a lot
of the subpoenas away from him, right, and so guess
what they did. You know, it's thirty three years old.
He sat me down, He goes, honey, I want you
to run the company. I want you know you're you're
the guy. You love real estate, you love building, you
love everything we do. You've built so many of our projects,
you run everything, you run our teams. I want you
to carry this forward because obviously I'm going to Watchington, DC.
And I said, no problem. And guys, I thought I
(19:43):
was gonna have this great time, you know again, building hotels,
running great organization. I never thought that ninety nine percent
of my time for a period of four years, really
a period of eight years, was going to be you know,
dealing with subpoenas. I became the most subenid person in
American history simply because I was the conduit to everything
that he had ever built, because I the guy running
the organization that had you know, Trump on the front door.
(20:04):
And so they came after us mercilessly. And thank god,
we had two things. We had a loud voice, and
we had enough zeros on the back of our name
that we could literally spend I mean, guys, I've said
this planning time. We've spent about four million, four hundred
million dollars fighting off the lunatics. And this is the
dirty dossier's, this is the made up Russia collusion. I
was the guy that got the call from the FBI saying,
I hear you have secret servers in the basement of
(20:26):
Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. We didn't have
servers in the basement of Trump Tower. It was all
a lie. It was all made up by Hillary Clinton.
It was all made up by Barack Obama. We didn't
have damn servers. But they wanted to put us under siege, right.
They needed a reason, you know, they wanted their October
surprise obviously is to get you know, Hillary three more votes.
But then when she failed so miserably against you know,
(20:49):
a bunch of ragtag individuals who didn't know a damn
thing about politics, i e. Our family, she needed a
reason to justify her loss. Hence the reason they made
this up. And they wanted to have this. Oh, you know,
the shadow loom over my father the entire time. They
wanted the shadow government to try and take him down
at every single step of the way. And then they
leaked his tax returns. I mean they not only did
(21:10):
they leak my father's tax returns, every tax return he had,
this is the i R s. They leaked all my
tax returns. They leaked Don's tax returns. The entire family,
you know. Then they leaked all the tax returns of
all the employees, all our corporate employees, you know. Then
they silenced us. They took us off of Facebook and
Twitter and Instagram. Then they gag ordered us. A lot
of times. You'd see me speaking on the front steps
of the you know, of the courthouses around the country.
(21:32):
Why because some of those cases I wasn't gag ordered in,
but my father was, and so I had to be
the person to go out and talk about, you know,
the judge's daughter who you know, apparently worked for the
you know, Democratic Party and is one of the biggest
you know, digital media people in New York State, while
her father is presiding over a trial against my father, right,
and then they take him off the ballot of Maine,
they take him out the ballot of Colorado. They do
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everything they can. They they call up every bank and
they try and get us deep platform de banked. I mean, guys,
this was a non stop siege against our family. But
it wasn't just against our family. It was against the
Republican Party. It was against you guys, it was against everybody,
everybody who want to free speech. They tried, they tried
to hold all of us down. They tried to take
away our voice. They wanted to destroy the greatest political
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movement you know, ever made. And it's it's really amazing
that we can be sitting here exactly one year later,
one year after those court trials and everything else, having
been vindicated in all of them, seeing what's happening to Letitia,
seeing Letitia's case get thrown out literally five zero by
the appellate court, seeing Middle East piecing, you know, inflation
(22:36):
go down to nothing, energy prices go down to nothing.
You know, I mean, what like what vindication this is
after everything that we've been through.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And I just want to ask as a follow up, Eric,
it's amazing to me to see what your dad has
gone through and just observing him in public. Also we've
play and I've been fortunate to spend a fair amount
of time with him in interviews and you know, one
or in a person a person face to face setting,
your dad, I have never seen him look scared once.
(23:08):
And this is somebody who was shot in the ear
and somebody else tried to shoot soon after. And that
is it almost seems superhuman to a lot of us
observing And I truly mean.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
That he is superhuman. But the guy's this guy I've
known my entire life. I mean he's always been this
energizer bunny, you know, on steroids, wearing a red tie, right,
and a dark suit. That's always been my father. Everything that,
everything that he's ever wanted to do is always you know,
he's always charged, and it's his only focus. He becomes
people don't realize. He becomes very myopically focused on whatever
he wants to do. If it's building the greatest building,
(23:39):
he becomes myopically focused on. If it's building a great course,
he becomes myopically focused on his real estate career. If
it was the Apprentice, he becomes myopically focused on it. Well,
he did the same thing with politics. I mean he
just did this this turn and just dedicated his entire
life to politics and winning a race. He became myopically
focused on it and never I mean, I can't tell
(24:00):
you how many people have lost money betting against Donald Trump.
You know, don't don't bet against the guy, because he's
gonna beat you every single time. And you know, he
became myoptically focused when he came to the Middle East.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Piece.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I mean, that's the one thing that he always wanted
to achieve, and that was probably the greatest achievement of all.
It's something that everybody was laughing at. This will never happen.
These societies hate each other, they've been warring for thousands
of years. The will never come together. And he goes, no,
I want I want peace in the Middle East. I
want the Abraham Accords. I want people to be kind of,
you know, prosperous. But he does not back down, he
does not mince words. He's politically incorrect, and frankly, it's
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what people adored about him. I mean, you'd watch those
primary debates guys in twenty you know, in twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen, you know, and those all those soundbites were rehearsed, right.
I mean, you know, Hillary Clinton will is very lucky
that Donald Trump isn't running the legal system of the
United States.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Right.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
He's throwing out these ingers, yeah, because you'd be in
jail for the rest of your life, right, And he's
doing it off the cuff. And people like somebody who
was finally real, somebody who was in PC, somebody who's
willing to go out there and fight like hell, and
somebody who was willing to work hard, because just don't
have that in politics. I mean, most of the politicians
are lazy, their canned, they're they're scripted, they're they're inauthentic,
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and and and they lose. They lose Americans. And that's why,
you know, there was never any excitement in politics before
my father came into the race. No one was excited
about Jim Bush. No one gave a damn about Jet Bush.
And you know, now you watch these rallies where thirty thousand,
fifty thousand people show up to these rallies. People are excited.
And by the way, a lot of those people are
young kids, who are you engaged in kind of the
(25:28):
democratic process for the first time. It's it's a beautiful
thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We're talking to Eric Trump. The book is under Siege,
My Family's Fight to save our Nation. It's available everywhere. Eric,
you just talked about your dad and his unique sensibilities
when it comes to politics. You're a builder, You're a
business person. So is Jared Kushner, so is Steve Witkoff.
Obviously your dad. How much do you think being a
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business guy made it possible to get a deal as
opposed to a straight politics. Guy in the middle. I
love this because deal makers look at solutions or situations
and just try to get to yes, whereas it feels
like a lot of politicians get bogged down in things
that don't matter. How much do you think business and
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deal making really was the foundation of what Jared, what
Steve and what your dad were able to do, And
how much do you see that in your own world
from a business perspective as looking at politics as a
series of deals as opposed to getting bogged down in
sometimes these intractable issues.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
By the way, it's a great question. I'm not sure
if I've ever gotten asked, but it's one hundred percent
being a deal maker. I mean, listen, Obama ran on
what hope, right, I like hope. Hope doesn't get you
anywhere in business. You know what I hope gets you.
I hope gets you bankrupt. You don't hope for something,
You go out and you effectually change, right, And that's
what Jared did so great. That's when we cofim in
(26:53):
Steve Wickoffs. I'm like Gloss his friends. I love him
to death, but I mean these you know, and guys
like me, right, I'm out of business if we don't.
You know, if we don't get results, you don't get
things across the finish line, you are out of business,
right like that, That's what business is about, and making
the deal right, getting things accomplished, getting things done. Whereas
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Barack Obama was about hope. Hope isn't a strategy. You know,
results are a strategy. And that's what my father demands.
He demands results. Everything he does, every word he says,
is about getting a result, right, you know, and and
that's a calculated result. Everything he does, every press conference,
every meeting, every every call he makes, every time he
pushes his cabinet, everything he does, every person that he appoints,
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it's about getting results. And that's what motivates my father,
and that's what motivates people in the business world. And
so I think that's why all of a sudden you
had this kind of you know, ragtag group of people
once again, you know, who didn't know anything about politics,
you know it might not have even known that much
about Middle East piece, but was able to go in there,
build relationships, negotiate well, get everybody to a table and
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actually if actually change versus you know, these career bureaucrats
who talk about how much they know about foreign policy
and yet they're incapable of getting anything done. I mean,
how many more times do you do you have to hear?
Do you remember in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Well, Donald
Trump does not know anything about foreign policy. It's like, yeah,
they didn't know anything abouteign policy either, you know, And
guess what, it's a really smart guy who could figure
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it out in about three and a half seconds, bring
people to the table and actually get something accomplished. And
you know, it always makes me so happy when I
see him just run circles around these people who claim
to know something about foreign policy, yet they haven't progressed
a ball in the last you know, three decades.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
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Speaker 9 (28:50):
To be determined, but I would say most likely it's
going to be a double meeting. It'll be a double meeting,
but we will have the President Zelinsky in touch. There's
a lot of red blood with the two presidents. And
I'm not speaking out of turn when I say it's
very a very difficult situation. You know, we just settled
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the war and after thousands of years. I guess people
say anywhere from five hundred to three thousand years. And
I was in rooms as you saw, because you were
with me. A lot of you were with me last
week with leaders that didn't like each other, but they
were able to get along. These two leaders do not
like each other, and we want to make it comfortable
for everybody. So one way or the other will be
(29:33):
involved in threes, but it may be separated.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Talking about the structure here, Clay, how these conversations will
be with Zelenski and Putin going forward, so he may
be the full the full on intermediaries.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What he's saying, right, have you.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Ever been to these before? Buck? This is I'm kind
of grinning. You could see it grinning.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Trump as the mediator is actually if as did decent
skits anymore, Trump as the mediator, going back and forth
between Zelenski and Putin would actually be an opportunity for
great comedic skit making possibilities. Because if you've ever been
to a mediation, some of you may have been through divorces.
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That's awful. A lot of times they are mediated. I
did mediations back in the day when I was a lawyer.
I've never been the media tour. But basically, if the
two parties are really angry, one party's like, I hope
they die and I hope they you know, every minute
they wake up for the rest of their life, their
first thought is how much they got screwed by me.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You go tell them that, and then the mediator walks back.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's like, there's a lot of passion, but I think
we've got something here. You know, you just have to
basically totally lie to both sides that are furious and
angry and they just want to vent and they want
everybody to hear their side. So the idea of Trump
as like the you know, really thoughtful okay, okay, and
then he goes back and he just lies, you know,
(31:04):
to try to make the two parties seem like they
aren't as far apart as they actually are in an
effort to ultimately bring them together. Is very comedically entertaining.
But that's where we are. I think Zolensky and Putin
hate each other, as you can well imagine, and Trump
now has to somehow be the bridge of across that
river of discord and animosity and what it's funny about
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it as well, is this is the exact opposite of
what most people in legacy media see Trump as. But
I think he sees himself as someone that can be
a bridge to diplomacy. And so that's where we are.
And that's kind of laughing just thinking about Trump as
the ultimate adult in the room trying to mediate this
very serious disagreement which is frankly cost hundreds of thousands
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of lives on both sides.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And he's the.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Adult, and he's the one who's going to be trying
to tamp down the emotion as opposed to being the emotional,
sort of likening rod as he often is in many
other different political disputes.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, I think this also speaks to the way these
two leaders feel about each other and the trust or
lack thereof, that exists between them. This is Zelenski saying
that he wants security guarantees if he's going to meet
with putin play thirty six.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
I think we need to sit and speak. The second point,
we need cease file. Even now, you see in the
Middle East it's very difficult to hold sea is file.
Everywhere in every war, it's very difficult. We want this
Putin doesn't want That's why we need pressurer only. We
will speak with President today what we need. We understand
(32:44):
what we need to put in to negotiation table, and
as I said previously, so we're ready to speak in
any kind of format. Bilateral, tri elateral, doesn't matter, matter,
just peace. This is important, and we don't speak about
Nate Ornate, NATA. For Ukrainians it is very important.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
Of course, it's our decision, decisions of allies to decide
where we are and the most important thing, the most
important thing for people in Ukraine which are under each
day's attacks, to have really strong security guarantees.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Neth NATO is the best, but the weapon is very important.
Allies on our side is very important. And between us,
for US by lateral security guarantees, between me and President
Trump is very important.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Sorry, if it's a little hard, I just mean this
a little hard to understand. His accent is pretty thick,
but he's just saying, look, you know what I meet
with Putin, but we got to Basically, he knows that
unless there are other parties involved here who are willing
to drop the hammer on Russia if it comes to it,
(33:56):
whatever Putin signs is not worth the paper, it's it's printed.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
On correct And this is where I think Putin this
is my prediction, because he respects Trump and because he
actually on some level fears how Trump might respond to him,
may be willing to enter into some form of agreement.
The problem is Trump is going to leave office in
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January of twenty nine. We saw what happened when Trump
left office last time. Putin can play the long game.
He can do the next fifteen years. I don't know
how long he's going to be in power, but I
don't see any immediate threat to Vladimir Putin's reign. And
I am a bit concerned that that's what Hamas is
doing in the Middle East too, is they respect Trump
(34:45):
and they fear Trump. And if we got let's just
say it, a president Kamala Harris God forbid, or President
Gavin Newsom, or President mayor Pete or a president AOC.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Do you think that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
The people of Hamas are going to respect those Democrat leaders?
Do you think that Vladimir Putin is going to fear
to those Democrat leaders? I would submit to you that
there is tangible evidence they will not and do not.
And so is there a concern I think that Zolensky
is correct to point this out, that we may get
a short term peace agreement, but as soon as Trump
is out of office and there is a perception of
(35:24):
weakness again it's taken advantage of Let me also point
something else out about this buck that I think is.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Is super interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Remember when they said that Zelensky and Trump would never
be able to interact again. Wasn't that long ago that
we had the couch meeting with uh uh with JD
Vance and everything kind of came undone on the minerals
rights agreement and everybody just said, oh my goodness, how
is this ever got? And now they're boys Zelenskys showing
up in the black suit. They're sitting there side by side.
(35:53):
The media very often takes Trump as if what position
he adopts in the moment is going to exist forever,
when Trump as a negotiator has shown throughout his entire
political career that he is willing to adjust on a
regular basis. And let me also play this cut. It's
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one thing to talk about security guarantees. We talk about
military force, which certainly putin respects we're not going to
put boots on the ground but economic force is a
reality too. If this is true, then this is a
really significant announcement that Trump just made in the Oval Office,
Cut thirty seven. He says India is done buying Russian
(36:35):
oil and gas. Let's play that well.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
India is not going to be buying Russian oil anymore.
And Hungary is sort of suck because they have one
pipeline that's been there for years and years and years.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And they're inland.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
They don't have c they don't have SA and I
spoke with the very great leader of Hungary and they
are you know, it's very hard for them.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
To get oil.
Speaker 9 (36:59):
I understand it. We have Hungery's in a very interesting
position because they can't have ports. You know, they're surrounded
by land. So we'll see what happens there. But India
will not be buying oil from Russia. And they've already
de escalated and they've more or less stopped. They're pulling back.
They bought about thirty eight percent of the oil and
(37:20):
they won't be doing it anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, If that's true, Buck, then we talked about this
earlier in the week, and I don't think it's gotten
enough discussion. Russia has sanctions against its ability to sell
oil and gas. One of the primary ways they have
gotten around those sanctions is by selling at a reduced
cost to India and then India marks the oil and
gas back up to real rates and act as effectively
(37:45):
as a middleman with a guaranteed profit. Which Hey, heck,
a lot of you out there that are business people.
You're like, man, I'd like to get that deal. Buy
the oil and gas at are reduced rate. Know you
have a huge market for it to mark up, and
all you basically have to do is transfer ownership. It's
a default, clear revocation and an avoidance of the oil
(38:08):
and gas tariffs. And so if this is true, if India,
which has basically been the default market for Russian oil
and gas, is truly not going to buy it anymore,
then this would start to put some economic power and
restrictions on Putin.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
This is the big one two punch that needs to
happen here. Putin's not going to do this because he's
not going to call for a rather agree to a
cease fire any kind of meaningful deal. While he thinks
he's going to keep winning, right, while he thinks that
the situation on the battlefield and for Russia is beneficial
(38:45):
to keep this thing going. And he clearly believes that
as of now, or has believed that up to this point.
And so Clay, you're talking about raising the economic cost,
which means going after the ways that Russia has evaded
sanctions really with very little pain to Russian economy because
people want oil. And to your point, there's a way
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to buy oil and sell it back and make money.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I mean, there's gonna be ways to do this, right, so.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
A good business buck.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm not gonna lie the middleman business of getting guaranteed
reduced rate oil and then being able to immediately sell it.
That's peep to buyers who can't buy it from Russia
but they can't buy it from you. I mean, it's
a it's it's clearly a can't at business. Yeah, it's can't.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Miss situation, a situation. But that's step one of this.
The next step would be, Okay, beyond the economic maybe
we just got to like let Russia know that Ukraine's
now got stuff that they can really hit Russia with,
including in the Russian interior. Trump is talking about this,
everybody Tomahawk missiles. Here's what he said, play thirty eight.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
We need tomahawks, and we need a lot of other
things that we've been sending over the last four years
to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
We've been you know, we gave, we gave them. Now
we have a different situation.
Speaker 9 (39:59):
We send it to the European Union. They pay for
it and all that, and they have plenty of money,
but we just beyond the money. You know, we need tomahawks.
So we need a lot of other weapons that we're
sending to Ukraine. And one of the reasons we want
to get this war over is exactly that it's not
easy for us to give. You're talking about massive numbers
of very powerful weapons. So that's one of the things
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we'll be talking about. Hopefully they won't need it. Hopefully
we'll be able to get the war over with without
thinking about tomahawks. I think I think we're getting I
think we're fairly I think we're fairly close to that.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Get the war ended without giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. Any
of you who have seen the movie Under Siege very
familiar with the Tomahawk missile system because it plays a
large role in that movie. That's serious hardware that goes
a long way and packs quite a punch.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And Trump also just weighed in on Maduro and uh,
we're gonna have to edit what he said, but Base
he doesn't like the cards that Maduro has in Venezuela either.
And Buck, I think it's worth noting you think some
of these guys, after Trump let the bombing of Iran happened,
(41:13):
thought to themselves, Uh, oh, I don't want to screw
around with the US, because they've got a guy who
will rain down holy hell.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
On us and it's not afraid to do it. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Not only was that the right decision as it pertains
to Iran, it was also the right decision as it
pertains to sending the message about what you're willing to
do going forward,
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Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. It
is a day of reflection over Trump's remarkable accomplishments alongside
of his administration. And I never would have believed the day,
but as I look down at the roster, we have
praise for Donald Trump from Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Joe Scarborough,
(00:35):
and an incredible montage our team put together of all
different sorts of Democrats singing Donald Trump's praises.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I think this is frankly.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Remarkable and I think it deserves all of the public acclamation.
We will run through some of those in a moment,
but I just wanted to hit you with this buck.
In the past twenty four hours, listen to Donald Trump's schedule.
Remember we went from my cousin mid I was gonna say,
(01:09):
my cousin Vinnie. We went from Weekend at Bernie's Apologies
to my cousin Vinnie, great film Weekend at Bernie's Presidency
of Joe Biden. They tried to run Weekend at Bernie's
two where they would hide him. He could only do
events from like ten to two. Then they would hide
him if they ever did any press availabilities. They gave
him note cards to call on members of the press
(01:30):
with pre screened questions. Listen to what Trump has done
just in the last twenty four hours. He flew to Israel,
spoke to the press there in Israel, met with Israeli leaders,
Spoke to the press again, met with families of the hostages.
Delivered an hour long speech to the Kanesse that is
(01:51):
basically the Israeli Congress, did another interview, flew to Egypt,
met with the President of Egypt, spoke to the press
US again, took photos and chatted individually with dozens of
world leaders. Signed the historic Gaza peace Deal, delivered another speech,
met privately with world leaders. Flew back to the United States.
(02:14):
He touched ground publicly walking across the grass of the
south lawn of the White House. I believe buck at
three am one of the most extraordinary thirty six hours.
He took off at three pm, thirty six hours before
when all the way to the Middle East, did all
of those things, got back off the plane at three am,
(02:36):
and today is celebrating and awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow,
Erica the Presidential Medal of Freedom for another public event.
For those of you who travel internationally, and I imagine
a lot of you out there have done this at
some point in time, it is buck you just did this.
(02:57):
You just flew to Taiwan and you just came back.
Traveling internationally is one of the most draining things that
you can do, skipping across twelve hours of time zones,
all these different things for anybody, no matter their age.
For a seventy nine year old president who has to
be at the top of his game delivering one of
the most consequential and I think well delivered addresses of
(03:20):
his entire political career, we're talking about superhuman, extraordinarily unbelievable
levels of mental focus and energy to be able to
put all this together. For anyone, whether you are the
CEO of a company, whether you're working in construction, whether
you're a twenty two year old listening to us right now,
(03:42):
that's an unbelievable thirty six hours of accomplishment. And coming
on the heels of Joe Biden, it is even more extraordinary.
I think what a thirty six hours President Trump just
put together.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It's been fun just watching all of the Trump adversary
media having to find ways to package this for their audience. Overwhelmingly,
they've taken the you know, he's terrible on They say
a bunch of things and then they go but I
have to say, this is pretty darn good, and I
(04:16):
don't think that there could be any more obvious. There
could be no more clear endorsement of the massive victory
here than even Trump's biggest detractors, at least in the media,
are having to say, yeah, I think this is a
pretty good one. Here's a great example, So Clay, You'll
remember when I did the Bill Maher show before this
(04:36):
last election, and there were a lot of things that
were interesting about that. One is I was like, you
guys are about to get absolutely smoked in this election,
and the audience did not boo. I think they knew
that things were not looking good for them at that point.
It was what late September, I think, before the election,
so maybe about a month ago. And the other thing
(04:56):
was I said to Bill Maher. I think this was
on camera, but I definitely said it to him off camera.
I said, you know that he's really not going to
destroy the country, and it's going to be fine, right,
I mean, you actually know that. And I swear he
looked at me and he said, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think he actually might destroy America. He seemed to
truly believe that. Well, Clay, here he is. This has
cut three having to face reality play it.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I always say this, you cannot ever deny success. You
just have to give your respect, even if it's not
your thing. Don't have the humility to give it up
for enormous success on any level. Trump not my choice.
Didn't vote for him, but a lot of people did.
(05:39):
And he's I can't deny the success. I can't either. Yeah,
and he's the president, and he's the president.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
That's That's pretty much where any honest left of center
person in this country has to be.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Right now, Clay, you can't deny the success. Guys. It's there.
It's it's in front of all of us.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If Joe Biden had gotten all of the hostages out
of Gaza and delivered a sterling speech giving the virtues
of freedom and American leadership, and traveled and just run
through that thirty six hour stretch, he couldn't have done
any of it. Let's be clear, and that's why you
and me and most of you out there did not
(06:22):
vote for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. Kamala Harris could
not have done any of this, and she's twenty years
younger than President Trump. But if they had, I would
have come on and said, hey, you know what, this
is a good result. As I give credit. Bill Clinton
came out and said it, let's play this. I mean,
this is Trump is so successful. Now you and I
have and we're gonna see Trump's praises because we think
(06:45):
he's having the greatest presidency of the twenty first century.
I think we are in the midst I hope some
of you take the time to wake up and smile
and be grateful for what we are all experiencing right now,
because I think it's about as good as it gets.
Here is a montage put together of Democrats and left
wing media giving Trump credit for the Gaza deal.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
This has cut seven.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
This was very much a peacemaker's speech.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's a terrific day for the hostage families.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
It's a terrific day for President Trump for our national interests.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Do you give him credit for this?
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Certainly?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I mean this is an incredible accomplishment, an incredible novel.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
President Trump deserves a lot of credit for bringing the
parties together.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
He should get a lot of credit. I mean, this
was his deal. He worked this out.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Listen, he got the deal across the finish line.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
There's no question things seem.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Sort of possible now in a way that they didn't
necessarily before.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
A better future ahead. That's what today represented.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was so so powerful and unbelievably emotional.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We would not be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Okay, let me give you an idea of who was
saying all of that. That's the Washington Post. David Ignatius,
historian John Meacham, Representative Adam Smith, Democrats from Washington, former
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, Senator Mark Kelly, current Democrat
from Arizona. Jim Scutto. I'm not sure how you pronounce
(08:09):
his name. SHOOTO, I don't watch a lot. I also
went to my high school, like Fauci. Did I know
this because these guys get big, get big request to
come back and speak at Regis, But yours truly on
the first or second largest radio platform whatever in America.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Not a lot of love from the high school.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Keep going.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
MSNBC's David Noriega, Ted Deutsch, Democrat from Florida, and Arab
Israeli negotiator Aaron David Miller. Also Stephen Colbert even said
cut nine. Donald Trump did something good. Had to make
a joke about it, but cut nine.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Today thanks to Trump's newly broken ceasefire in Gaza, all
living Israeli hostages and almost truth allis Kalastan re prisonally
have been released. Okay, it's important. Credit where credit is due.
Donald Trump did something good.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Are we still canceled?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I tried. I tried, all right.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Jimmy Kimmel even said good work. Now they got to
make jokes on the backside, but they're actually giving President
Trump credit. This is how successful Trump has suddenly become.
He has united Jimmy Kemmel and Stephen Colbert in praise.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Cut eight. What a day for Donald Trump.
Speaker 8 (09:31):
You know what, He finally did something positive today and
I want to give him credit for it because I
know he's not the type to take credit for himself.
Trump was in Israel and Egypt today's to celebrate a
ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. All twenty Israeli hostages are home.
After seven hundred thirty eight days, almost two thousand Palesitian
(09:53):
prisoners and Jim Kneys have been released. And well, we're
only in the first phase of what will undoubtedly be
a long and tricky says. The fact is the bombing
has stopped, the hostages have been released, and Trump deserves
some of the praise for that. And so I know
it sounds crazy to say, but good work on that one,
President Trump. Now maybe you can not invade Portland.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Just an idea, Okay, like this is I understand they
got to slap him on the back and make a
joke or whatever. But the fact that Colbert Kimmel, CNN
and MSNBC are all lining up for much of their
day buck and having to say President Trump, get a
good job. I do wonder what their moron audiences are
(10:34):
thinking here. You and I are not surprised this happened,
but this is what we voted for.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
We were right.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I would also add that they're limiting the praise to
getting the hostages back, but the more comprehensive deal here.
There's never been anything like this in media's peace negotiations
involving Hamas, involving the future of the state of Israel.
I mean, this is enormous as a frame work for
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the Middle East going forward, and they're not saying that
because Clay it's one thing to point out, Okay, fine,
he got the hostages back. We all have to admit
that's good. I would also note who was it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I can't remember, but somebody said two thousand Palestinian prisoners.
Those are detainees, they're terror in New York.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's a different The New York Times called it a
hostage trade, as if the criminals that were under you know,
a lock and key were the same as the hostages
that were kidnapped. So I just want to note that
on the one side you have people, you have civilians
who were kidnapped at gunpoint for no reason other than
the barbarism and hatred of Hamas. And on the other
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side you have people who were breaking the Geneva Convention
in every way imaginable, fighting as a non established military,
killing civilians, and all of the things that that you
could point to anyway. But they are trying to limit
this to the hostages coming back, and they're not what
they're not willing to say their audience Clay. Even in
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these clips.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
For the most part, some of the more news people
are alluding to this. Aaron David Miller is actually a
sharp guy. I know him from years back, and he
knows the region well. There are people out there who
are lifetime policy wonks who are saying that part of
it is a huge breakthrough too, And that's something they
(12:22):
won't say on Kimmel's show. They won't say that Donald
Trump not only succeeded as president in getting these hostages back,
but Clay, he has succeeded more on mid EA's peace
than Obama than Biden, then Bush, then Clinton, then Reagan,
then go back, Den Carter, keep going back.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
That they will not say.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Let me ask you this, and I don't know. I'm
curious what your answer is. We can talk about it
when we come back. As we're coming up against a break.
How much do you think the average American cares or
is paying attention to what's going on right now in
the Middle East? In other words, does this move Donald
Trump's approval rating in the United States in any kind
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of appreciable way, or people like you and me and
all of our listeners that are engaged on a day
to day basis in the news are aware of this,
But is this resonating with your average dad or mom
sitting in a car line picking up kids at school, Like,
is this something that matters?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I really don't think so for the most part. I
think for the I think for the Jewish American community,
especially because we had Carol Markowitz on yesterday. She has
family in Israel, she has family that are in the
IDF right, So that is very noteworthy for people that
feel a direct connection to what's going on over there.
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But day to day over here, this will be swept
up in the broader news cycle very quickly. And I
think there's nothing wrong with leaving the diplomacy to the diplomat, well,
in this case, to Donald Trump, the diplomat in chief,
and moving back to issues here on the home front.
You know that Trump has helped clean that mess up
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or bring that mess to an end. Let's get our
focus back here at home. I mean, there's there's no
need for us to have a split focus. I think
that takes away from any of the initiatives. And they're
not the stuff with the with Portland and Chicago and
the border and and trade deals with China. That's all
still underway too. This is a big news story more
than it is a big Main Street story. I think
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that's fair good analysis. Now we've got Zolensky coming to
the White House on Friday. Within that construct, what is
MSNBC and CNN going to say if Trump actually brings
peace between Ukraine and Russia too? Remember that scene in
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc when they.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Open the answer is going to be one hundred percent
for me. But yes, I'm not forgetting any of those scenes.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It will it will be like that at MSNBC.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
If Trump ends the Russia Ukraine war, they will just
melt in real like the there won't be anything left.
They will spontaneously combust. Total protonic reversal. I mean it'll
be a total I don't know what they'll do over there.
All right, we'll come back into.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
This year, I say, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Oh yeah,
when they look at the arc, well we have double,
we have double. I was thinking when they drink from
the chalice at the end and oh double the other one.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, there's actually double ones.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, I mean it will be a Laurence O'donald' show
might be more like that, and whatever other shows are on,
like Chris Hayes might be more like The Raiders of
the Lost Arc. But people will melt or evaporate in
real time if Trump actually does the peace deal with
Russia Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.
We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He's
got a brand new book out today. It's called Under Siege.
It is burning up the best seller ranks. I think
I saw it posted that it is the number one
release on Amazon today, which is a super impressive accomplishment already.
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And we'll get into the book in a minute, Eric,
but we appreciate you coming on with us having said
that we'll get to the book. But are you still
kind of processing how incredible what yesterday was like in
the Middle East and your dad having the thirty six
hours that he had where even as we started off
the show, MSNBC, CNN, Heck, Colbert and Kimmel came out
(16:23):
and said, hey, he did something really impressive. You know
when MSNBC, CNN and the late night hosts are praising
you that your dad must have really accomplished something. What
was that like for you to watch.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Well, guys, a year ago he was literally serving French
fries at McDonald's and now he's just served at least
you know, literally it was exactly a year ago yesterday
he was doing the French fribroutine and riding around in
a garbage truck. And you know, he just solves Middle
East for peace. And I think the most impressive part
to me. Listen, you look at almost at every conflict
around the world, whether it's you know, World War One,
World War two, Vietnam, Korea, right, you had kind of
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a winner, and you had losure of those wars as
pre determined. And here it actually feels like everybody won, right.
I mean, you have you have people on both sides
of the conflict coming out and thanking him and thanking
him profusely for ending the madness, ending the death and destruction,
and then you have an entire world that's kind of
coalesced around this victory. And I just think that's a
really beautiful thing and one of those things that only
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he could could pull off. And I'm proud. I'm proud
of him as a son. I mean, listen, you know
we're gonna talk about the siege at some point. You
know today, but you know everything that we've we've gone through,
everything that they tried to do to destroy us. Guys,
it all became worth it for me yesterday, right. I
mean there are times when you couldn't quite you know,
couldn't couldn't quite get there.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Was it worth it?
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Was it not? It was brutal. They tried to destroy
your life. And then you see a man up there
with the entire world respecting America. You know, the death
and destruction and evilness has ended. Conflicts all over the
world are ending. You know, pieces being brought. You know,
some son will go back to their mother tonight. Who
would have other why he's not gone back. She would
(18:01):
have been finding out that that person was dead had
it not been for his actions. And I think that
makes this whole worth it.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
The book is under siege, My families fight to save
our nation. Where with Eric Trump now talking about it,
and Eric, I have a longtime law enforcement friend who,
as you're he's a big Trump supporter. And as the
whole situation was playing out, the effort to use unprecedented
law fair not just against your dad, as you have
(18:29):
pointed out before, against the Trump organization, against Trump family,
members against all of you. Really, anyone named Trump became
a target as you're going through that, he kept saying,
A normal and by this, I just mean an every
day and everyday person would be broken by one federal indictment, meaning,
oh my gosh, how will I ever be able to
(18:51):
fight this? And and well, you know what is going
to do my reputation? Your dad and your family were
going through four nonsense criminal indictment and some of the
civil stuff that you were having good deal with, including
from Letitia James, which we were just discussing her situation.
What was that like day in and day out? Did
it just feel surreal? Did it feel like your dad
(19:11):
was prepared for it and was able to be a
happy warrior through the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, bring us into that.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Yeah, well, well listen, you know, honestly I was. I
was a tip to the spear with that whole thing.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Right.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
My father had certain constitutional protections that kept a lot
of the subpoenas away from him, right, and so guess
what they did. You know, it's thirty three years old.
He sat me down, He goes, honey, I want you
to run the company. I want you know you're you're
the guy. You love real estate, you love building, you
love everything we do. You've built so many of our projects,
you run everything, you run our teams. I want you
to carry this forward because obviously I'm going to Watchington, DC.
And I said, no problem. And guys, I thought I
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was gonna have this great time, you know again, building hotels,
running great organization. I never thought that ninety nine percent
of my time for a period of four years, really
a period of eight years, was going to be you know,
dealing with subpoenas. I became the most subenid person in
American history simply because I was the conduit to everything
that he had ever built, because I the guy running
the organization that had you know, Trump on the front door.
(20:04):
And so they came after us mercilessly. And thank god,
we had two things. We had a loud voice, and
we had enough zeros on the back of our name
that we could literally spend I mean, guys, I've said
this planning time. We've spent about four million, four hundred
million dollars fighting off the lunatics. And this is the
dirty dossier's, this is the made up Russia collusion. I
was the guy that got the call from the FBI saying,
I hear you have secret servers in the basement of
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Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. We didn't have
servers in the basement of Trump Tower. It was all
a lie. It was all made up by Hillary Clinton.
It was all made up by Barack Obama. We didn't
have damn servers. But they wanted to put us under siege, right.
They needed a reason, you know, they wanted their October
surprise obviously is to get you know, Hillary three more votes.
But then when she failed so miserably against you know,
(20:49):
a bunch of ragtag individuals who didn't know a damn
thing about politics, i e. Our family, she needed a
reason to justify her loss. Hence the reason they made
this up. And they wanted to have this. Oh, you know,
the shadow loom over my father the entire time. They
wanted the shadow government to try and take him down
at every single step of the way. And then they
leaked his tax returns. I mean they not only did
(21:10):
they leak my father's tax returns, every tax return he had,
this is the i R s. They leaked all my
tax returns. They leaked Don's tax returns. The entire family,
you know. Then they leaked all the tax returns of
all the employees, all our corporate employees, you know. Then
they silenced us. They took us off of Facebook and
Twitter and Instagram. Then they gag ordered us. A lot
of times. You'd see me speaking on the front steps
of the you know, of the courthouses around the country.
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Why because some of those cases I wasn't gag ordered in,
but my father was, and so I had to be
the person to go out and talk about, you know,
the judge's daughter who you know, apparently worked for the
you know, Democratic Party and is one of the biggest
you know, digital media people in New York State, while
her father is presiding over a trial against my father, right,
and then they take him off the ballot of Maine,
they take him out the ballot of Colorado. They do
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everything they can. They they call up every bank and
they try and get us deep platform de banked. I mean, guys,
this was a non stop siege against our family. But
it wasn't just against our family. It was against the
Republican Party. It was against you guys, it was against everybody,
everybody who want to free speech. They tried, they tried
to hold all of us down. They tried to take
away our voice. They wanted to destroy the greatest political
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movement you know, ever made. And it's it's really amazing
that we can be sitting here exactly one year later,
one year after those court trials and everything else, having
been vindicated in all of them, seeing what's happening to Letitia,
seeing Letitia's case get thrown out literally five zero by
the appellate court, seeing Middle East piecing, you know, inflation
(22:36):
go down to nothing, energy prices go down to nothing.
You know, I mean, what like what vindication this is
after everything that we've been through.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And I just want to ask as a follow up, Eric,
it's amazing to me to see what your dad has
gone through and just observing him in public. Also we've
play and I've been fortunate to spend a fair amount
of time with him in interviews and you know, one
or in a person a person face to face setting,
your dad, I have never seen him look scared once.
(23:08):
And this is somebody who was shot in the ear
and somebody else tried to shoot soon after. And that
is it almost seems superhuman to a lot of us
observing And I truly mean.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
That he is superhuman. But the guy's this guy I've
known my entire life. I mean he's always been this
energizer bunny, you know, on steroids, wearing a red tie, right,
and a dark suit. That's always been my father. Everything that,
everything that he's ever wanted to do is always you know,
he's always charged, and it's his only focus. He becomes
people don't realize. He becomes very myopically focused on whatever
he wants to do. If it's building the greatest building,
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he becomes myopically focused on. If it's building a great course,
he becomes myopically focused on his real estate career. If
it was the Apprentice, he becomes myopically focused on it. Well,
he did the same thing with politics. I mean he
just did this this turn and just dedicated his entire
life to politics and winning a race. He became myopically
focused on it and never I mean, I can't tell
(24:00):
you how many people have lost money betting against Donald Trump.
You know, don't don't bet against the guy, because he's
gonna beat you every single time. And you know, he
became myoptically focused when he came to the Middle East.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Piece.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
I mean, that's the one thing that he always wanted
to achieve, and that was probably the greatest achievement of all.
It's something that everybody was laughing at. This will never happen.
These societies hate each other, they've been warring for thousands
of years. The will never come together. And he goes, no,
I want I want peace in the Middle East. I
want the Abraham Accords. I want people to be kind of,
you know, prosperous. But he does not back down, he
does not mince words. He's politically incorrect, and frankly, it's
(24:30):
what people adored about him. I mean, you'd watch those
primary debates guys in twenty you know, in twenty sixteen,
twenty seventeen, you know, and those all those soundbites were rehearsed, right.
I mean, you know, Hillary Clinton will is very lucky
that Donald Trump isn't running the legal system of the
United States.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
Right.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
He's throwing out these ingers, yeah, because you'd be in
jail for the rest of your life, right, And he's
doing it off the cuff. And people like somebody who
was finally real, somebody who was in PC, somebody who's
willing to go out there and fight like hell, and
somebody who was willing to work hard, because just don't
have that in politics. I mean, most of the politicians
are lazy, their canned, they're they're scripted, they're they're inauthentic,
(25:08):
and and and they lose. They lose Americans. And that's why,
you know, there was never any excitement in politics before
my father came into the race. No one was excited
about Jim Bush. No one gave a damn about Jet Bush.
And you know, now you watch these rallies where thirty thousand,
fifty thousand people show up to these rallies. People are excited.
And by the way, a lot of those people are
young kids, who are you engaged in kind of the
(25:28):
democratic process for the first time. It's it's a beautiful
thing to witness.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We're talking to Eric Trump. The book is under Siege,
My Family's Fight to save our Nation. It's available everywhere. Eric,
you just talked about your dad and his unique sensibilities
when it comes to politics. You're a builder, You're a
business person. So is Jared Kushner, so is Steve Witkoff.
Obviously your dad. How much do you think being a
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business guy made it possible to get a deal as
opposed to a straight politics. Guy in the middle. I
love this because deal makers look at solutions or situations
and just try to get to yes, whereas it feels
like a lot of politicians get bogged down in things
that don't matter. How much do you think business and
(26:14):
deal making really was the foundation of what Jared, what
Steve and what your dad were able to do, And
how much do you see that in your own world
from a business perspective as looking at politics as a
series of deals as opposed to getting bogged down in
sometimes these intractable issues.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
By the way, it's a great question. I'm not sure
if I've ever gotten asked, but it's one hundred percent
being a deal maker. I mean, listen, Obama ran on
what hope, right, I like hope. Hope doesn't get you
anywhere in business. You know what I hope gets you.
I hope gets you bankrupt. You don't hope for something,
You go out and you effectually change, right, And that's
what Jared did so great. That's when we cofim in
(26:53):
Steve Wickoffs. I'm like Gloss his friends. I love him
to death, but I mean these you know, and guys
like me, right, I'm out of business if we don't.
You know, if we don't get results, you don't get
things across the finish line, you are out of business,
right like that, That's what business is about, and making
the deal right, getting things accomplished, getting things done. Whereas
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Barack Obama was about hope. Hope isn't a strategy. You know,
results are a strategy. And that's what my father demands.
He demands results. Everything he does, every word he says,
is about getting a result, right, you know, and and
that's a calculated result. Everything he does, every press conference,
every meeting, every every call he makes, every time he
pushes his cabinet, everything he does, every person that he appoints,
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it's about getting results. And that's what motivates my father,
and that's what motivates people in the business world. And
so I think that's why all of a sudden you
had this kind of you know, ragtag group of people
once again, you know, who didn't know anything about politics,
you know it might not have even known that much
about Middle East piece, but was able to go in there,
build relationships, negotiate well, get everybody to a table and
(27:59):
actually if actually change versus you know, these career bureaucrats
who talk about how much they know about foreign policy
and yet they're incapable of getting anything done. I mean,
how many more times do you do you have to hear?
Do you remember in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, Well, Donald
Trump does not know anything about foreign policy. It's like, yeah,
they didn't know anything abouteign policy either, you know, And
guess what, it's a really smart guy who could figure
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it out in about three and a half seconds, bring
people to the table and actually get something accomplished. And
you know, it always makes me so happy when I
see him just run circles around these people who claim
to know something about foreign policy, yet they haven't progressed
a ball in the last you know, three decades.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
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Speaker 9 (28:50):
To be determined, but I would say most likely it's
going to be a double meeting. It'll be a double meeting,
but we will have the President Zelinsky in touch. There's
a lot of red blood with the two presidents. And
I'm not speaking out of turn when I say it's
very a very difficult situation. You know, we just settled
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the war and after thousands of years. I guess people
say anywhere from five hundred to three thousand years. And
I was in rooms as you saw, because you were
with me. A lot of you were with me last
week with leaders that didn't like each other, but they
were able to get along. These two leaders do not
like each other, and we want to make it comfortable
for everybody. So one way or the other will be
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involved in threes, but it may be separated.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Talking about the structure here, Clay, how these conversations will
be with Zelenski and Putin going forward, so he may
be the full the full on intermediaries.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
What he's saying, right, have you.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Ever been to these before? Buck? This is I'm kind
of grinning. You could see it grinning.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Trump as the mediator is actually if as did decent
skits anymore, Trump as the mediator, going back and forth
between Zelenski and Putin would actually be an opportunity for
great comedic skit making possibilities. Because if you've ever been
to a mediation, some of you may have been through divorces.
(30:19):
That's awful. A lot of times they are mediated. I
did mediations back in the day when I was a lawyer.
I've never been the media tour. But basically, if the
two parties are really angry, one party's like, I hope
they die and I hope they you know, every minute
they wake up for the rest of their life, their
first thought is how much they got screwed by me.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You go tell them that, and then the mediator walks back.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's like, there's a lot of passion, but I think
we've got something here. You know, you just have to
basically totally lie to both sides that are furious and
angry and they just want to vent and they want
everybody to hear their side. So the idea of Trump
as like the you know, really thoughtful okay, okay, and
then he goes back and he just lies, you know,
(31:04):
to try to make the two parties seem like they
aren't as far apart as they actually are in an
effort to ultimately bring them together. Is very comedically entertaining.
But that's where we are. I think Zolensky and Putin
hate each other, as you can well imagine, and Trump
now has to somehow be the bridge of across that
river of discord and animosity and what it's funny about
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it as well, is this is the exact opposite of
what most people in legacy media see Trump as. But
I think he sees himself as someone that can be
a bridge to diplomacy. And so that's where we are.
And that's kind of laughing just thinking about Trump as
the ultimate adult in the room trying to mediate this
very serious disagreement which is frankly cost hundreds of thousands
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of lives on both sides.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And he's the.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Adult, and he's the one who's going to be trying
to tamp down the emotion as opposed to being the emotional,
sort of likening rod as he often is in many
other different political disputes.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Well, I think this also speaks to the way these
two leaders feel about each other and the trust or
lack thereof, that exists between them. This is Zelenski saying
that he wants security guarantees if he's going to meet
with putin play thirty six.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
I think we need to sit and speak. The second point,
we need cease file. Even now, you see in the
Middle East it's very difficult to hold sea is file.
Everywhere in every war, it's very difficult. We want this
Putin doesn't want That's why we need pressurer only. We
will speak with President today what we need. We understand
(32:44):
what we need to put in to negotiation table, and
as I said previously, so we're ready to speak in
any kind of format. Bilateral, tri elateral, doesn't matter, matter,
just peace. This is important, and we don't speak about
Nate Ornate, NATA. For Ukrainians it is very important.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
Of course, it's our decision, decisions of allies to decide
where we are and the most important thing, the most
important thing for people in Ukraine which are under each
day's attacks, to have really strong security guarantees.
Speaker 10 (33:19):
Neth NATO is the best, but the weapon is very important.
Allies on our side is very important. And between us,
for US by lateral security guarantees, between me and President
Trump is very important.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Sorry, if it's a little hard, I just mean this
a little hard to understand. His accent is pretty thick,
but he's just saying, look, you know what I meet
with Putin, but we got to Basically, he knows that
unless there are other parties involved here who are willing
to drop the hammer on Russia if it comes to it,
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whatever Putin signs is not worth the paper, it's it's printed.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
On correct And this is where I think Putin this
is my prediction, because he respects Trump and because he
actually on some level fears how Trump might respond to him,
may be willing to enter into some form of agreement.
The problem is Trump is going to leave office in
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January of twenty nine. We saw what happened when Trump
left office last time. Putin can play the long game.
He can do the next fifteen years. I don't know
how long he's going to be in power, but I
don't see any immediate threat to Vladimir Putin's reign. And
I am a bit concerned that that's what Hamas is
doing in the Middle East too, is they respect Trump
(34:45):
and they fear Trump. And if we got let's just
say it, a president Kamala Harris God forbid, or President
Gavin Newsom, or President mayor Pete or a president AOC.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Do you think that.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
The people of Hamas are going to respect those Democrat leaders?
Do you think that Vladimir Putin is going to fear
to those Democrat leaders? I would submit to you that
there is tangible evidence they will not and do not.
And so is there a concern I think that Zolensky
is correct to point this out, that we may get
a short term peace agreement, but as soon as Trump
is out of office and there is a perception of
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weakness again it's taken advantage of Let me also point
something else out about this buck that I think is.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Is super interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Remember when they said that Zelensky and Trump would never
be able to interact again. Wasn't that long ago that
we had the couch meeting with uh uh with JD
Vance and everything kind of came undone on the minerals
rights agreement and everybody just said, oh my goodness, how
is this ever got? And now they're boys Zelenskys showing
up in the black suit. They're sitting there side by side.
(35:53):
The media very often takes Trump as if what position
he adopts in the moment is going to exist forever,
when Trump as a negotiator has shown throughout his entire
political career that he is willing to adjust on a
regular basis. And let me also play this cut. It's
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one thing to talk about security guarantees. We talk about
military force, which certainly putin respects we're not going to
put boots on the ground but economic force is a
reality too. If this is true, then this is a
really significant announcement that Trump just made in the Oval Office,
Cut thirty seven. He says India is done buying Russian
(36:35):
oil and gas. Let's play that well.
Speaker 9 (36:38):
India is not going to be buying Russian oil anymore.
And Hungary is sort of suck because they have one
pipeline that's been there for years and years and years.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
And they're inland.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
They don't have c they don't have SA and I
spoke with the very great leader of Hungary and they
are you know, it's very hard for them.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
To get oil.
Speaker 9 (36:59):
I understand it. We have Hungery's in a very interesting
position because they can't have ports. You know, they're surrounded
by land. So we'll see what happens there. But India
will not be buying oil from Russia. And they've already
de escalated and they've more or less stopped. They're pulling back.
They bought about thirty eight percent of the oil and
(37:20):
they won't be doing it anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, If that's true, Buck, then we talked about this
earlier in the week, and I don't think it's gotten
enough discussion. Russia has sanctions against its ability to sell
oil and gas. One of the primary ways they have
gotten around those sanctions is by selling at a reduced
cost to India and then India marks the oil and
gas back up to real rates and act as effectively
(37:45):
as a middleman with a guaranteed profit. Which Hey, heck,
a lot of you out there that are business people.
You're like, man, I'd like to get that deal. Buy
the oil and gas at are reduced rate. Know you
have a huge market for it to mark up, and
all you basically have to do is transfer ownership. It's
a default, clear revocation and an avoidance of the oil
(38:08):
and gas tariffs. And so if this is true, if India,
which has basically been the default market for Russian oil
and gas, is truly not going to buy it anymore,
then this would start to put some economic power and
restrictions on Putin.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
This is the big one two punch that needs to
happen here. Putin's not going to do this because he's
not going to call for a rather agree to a
cease fire any kind of meaningful deal. While he thinks
he's going to keep winning, right, while he thinks that
the situation on the battlefield and for Russia is beneficial
(38:45):
to keep this thing going. And he clearly believes that
as of now, or has believed that up to this point.
And so Clay, you're talking about raising the economic cost,
which means going after the ways that Russia has evaded
sanctions really with very little pain to Russian economy because
people want oil. And to your point, there's a way
(39:06):
to buy oil and sell it back and make money.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I mean, there's gonna be ways to do this, right, so.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
A good business buck.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm not gonna lie the middleman business of getting guaranteed
reduced rate oil and then being able to immediately sell it.
That's peep to buyers who can't buy it from Russia
but they can't buy it from you. I mean, it's
a it's it's clearly a can't at business. Yeah, it's can't.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Miss situation, a situation. But that's step one of this.
The next step would be, Okay, beyond the economic maybe
we just got to like let Russia know that Ukraine's
now got stuff that they can really hit Russia with,
including in the Russian interior. Trump is talking about this,
everybody Tomahawk missiles. Here's what he said, play thirty eight.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
We need tomahawks, and we need a lot of other
things that we've been sending over the last four years
to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
We've been you know, we gave, we gave them. Now
we have a different situation.
Speaker 9 (39:59):
We send it to the European Union. They pay for
it and all that, and they have plenty of money,
but we just beyond the money. You know, we need tomahawks.
So we need a lot of other weapons that we're
sending to Ukraine. And one of the reasons we want
to get this war over is exactly that it's not
easy for us to give. You're talking about massive numbers
of very powerful weapons. So that's one of the things
(40:21):
we'll be talking about. Hopefully they won't need it. Hopefully
we'll be able to get the war over with without
thinking about tomahawks. I think I think we're getting I
think we're fairly I think we're fairly close to that.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Get the war ended without giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. Any
of you who have seen the movie Under Siege very
familiar with the Tomahawk missile system because it plays a
large role in that movie. That's serious hardware that goes
a long way and packs quite a punch.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And Trump also just weighed in on Maduro and uh,
we're gonna have to edit what he said, but Base
he doesn't like the cards that Maduro has in Venezuela either.
And Buck, I think it's worth noting you think some
of these guys, after Trump let the bombing of Iran happened,
(41:13):
thought to themselves, Uh, oh, I don't want to screw
around with the US, because they've got a guy who
will rain down holy hell.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
On us and it's not afraid to do it. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Not only was that the right decision as it pertains
to Iran, it was also the right decision as it
pertains to sending the message about what you're willing to
do going forward,
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