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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Thanksgiving Weird. Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day
for being a listener here on the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. You're listening to the best of Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in. I am Clay Travis,
he is Buck Sexton. We are celebrating the one year
anniversary of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Encourage

(00:23):
all of you to go subscribe to the podcast if
you haven't already, you'll ensure that you don't miss a moment.
We are joined by the man whose music you just heard,
bringing us back into the third hour of the program.
He is Jeremy pop Off from the band Litt and Jeremy.
I've gotten to know you in Nashville. What does it

(00:45):
mean for you as a I know very much long
time Russia Limbaugh fan and listener to have your music
now connected to the audience that we are speaking with
every single day. Yoh man. Well, first of all, uh,
i'd like to wish you guys a happy anniversary. And

(01:07):
uh and and you know we're big fans of the show.
And thank you when you take you know, I was
in England, um when you texted me about possibly you know,
using the song and uh, and everybody was super fired
up and said, it's a real it's a real honor
for us, you know. Um, and we're just, uh, we're yeah,

(01:27):
I mean we're we're truly humbled and honored that you
that you picked our song to uh. You know, we're
We're get to be a little small part of the
show each day, and it's awesome and we get Jeremy
were so appreciated and we think LID is uh is
a great, great band. I'm wondering, you know that that
guitar riff you're the you're the lead guitarist of the
band LID, and that guitar riff in particular that people

(01:49):
here at the top of the show. I would argue
it's one of the most iconic guitar riffs of the
nineteen nineties, one of the most memorable, the one that
really sticks out. I'm just wondering how this came together?
You know, this is like our behind the music moment here,
because were you just you know, you're hanging out on
the beach with a with an acoustic and having some fun.
I mean, how did this come together? Man? We used

(02:12):
to have a warehouse in Anaheim, were you know, the
bands originally from Anaheim, California, and we had a warehouse
that was a man cave before that, you know, we
knew what a man cave was, and we spent every
night there for several hours, and that's where we practiced
and wrote and hung out with our friends and did
all that stuff. And that riff just sort of spilled

(02:32):
out one night, and can you remember just do you
remember playing it and realizing, oh, that's really good. I mean,
we thought it was cool, but we think all our
songs are cool when we're writing him, you know, so
it actually one of our good buddies, Tony, who was
kind of like the unofficial fifth member, he was kind
of like, I don't know, man, I don't really like

(02:53):
that song. So we ended up we didn't play it
for a few shows because we were self conscious about
it because Tony didn't like it. But yeah, what a
crazy what a crazy thing man. Two notes and and
some lyrics that were probably written to be maybe changed
or modified when we had time to get to it,
and then it just sort of took off and became

(03:13):
something that we would have never dreamed that it became.
And we're really just blessed and it's crabby. Yet just
yesterday we got we must have had one hundred thousand,
you know, messages sent to us. There was that viral
video yesterday of the bride playing drums to it at
our wedding, And it's just like a weekly thing where
it's just like it just takes on this life of

(03:34):
its own. It's just crazy, Jeremy. One thing that Buck
and I wanted to make sure we did when they
told us that the music was coming up and we
needed to come up with a new open to our
hours was we said, we don't want to end up
with a musician or a group that doesn't like our
audience and doesn't respect our perspective. And I was so

(03:56):
excited to know you you relocated your family from California
to Tennessee and you were super upset with all of
the restrictions that we're going on with COVID, and so
when I told Buck that, he was like, oh man,
these are our guys. But kind of explain how you
ended up making the move to Nashville and what your

(04:19):
response was to the government telling you, Hey, this is
what you can do, this is what you can't do.
There's a lot of musicians now that seem to embrace
the nanny state, when oftentimes artists and musicians historically have
been about rebelling against the power structure. There's an awful
lot of musicians and artists now who say, hey, regulate

(04:41):
me more, which to me is the antithesis of what
art should be. It's crazy how full circle it's come
with a lot of musicians, and especially like you know,
the guys that are you know, supposedly more punk rock
and more edgy or alternative, and they have just sort
of gone the way of the buffalo and just sort

(05:02):
of follow whatever they're being told to do. And you know,
we're just we're look, we're an American rock and roll band.
We we we we were very um, just middle class
dudes that grew up in Anaheim, which is not the
you know, it's not the fancy part of Orange County.
And we just were hard working, do it yourself. Guys
who who believed it much more of just you know,

(05:23):
our our freedoms not negotiable, and uh, leave us alone,
let us do our thing. And and and we're also
you know, we're not um. We played by the rules,
you know, we're respectful dudes, and we're family guys, and
we have our values and stuff, but we're just kind
of like, hey man, you know, we're we're growing as men.
Now leave us alone, you know, and let us let
us do We're you know, we're not hurt anybody. We're

(05:44):
gonna do what we want to do. But it blows
our minds to see just how many of our peers
have have just like just they lost their balls somewhere
along the way or something. Now that's Worth said. I
think that's right. We're thinking right now to Jeremy pop Off,
a lead guitarist of the band Lit And for those
of you who are wondering where that where that music,

(06:06):
the song that you're hearing the top of the show
comes from Worth the one year anniversary of clay An Buck.
We've got this new theme song that gets everybody fired up.
And you know, you do you think Jeremy that there's
I think right now, I'm I'll just put this out there.
There's a little bit of a turning away from the
monolith in the arts that we've seen, or just the

(06:28):
the demand that everybody, whether you're in whether you're in sports,
whether you're in Hollywood, where you're in music, that that
entertainment is just so the province of only one side
of the national conversation. And you think we're heading toward
a little bit at least. I'm not even saying people
that are Republican or conservative necessarily who are or in

(06:48):
music and in the arts, but just understanding that without freedom,
you actually can't be an artist, and therefore you have
to actually defend individual freedom at some level. Um. And
I mean, look, I think the reason why your show
is number one in so many markets and is so
you know, popular and refreshing, is because I don't think

(07:12):
that it's so. I don't think it's about being far
right or far left. I think it's about people are
starting to realize, like you guys are just you guys,
just make sense. It's just common sense. And it's it's
not about politics. It's about like, what what are we
doing here? And it's and it's it's so much more
when I listen to you guys, I'm just like, who
who's going to disagree with this? Right now? It doesn't

(07:34):
you know what I mean? We feel the same way.
We feel we feel like everyone should be listening. You agree,
So there you go, well, I think it's a balance
of you know, we all get together with our buddies
and and I've listened. I've got a lot of friends
from all over the spectrum of beliefs and religions and
faiths and politics or whatever. And you know, at the
end of the day, we all get together and have
a beer, and we agree on on way more than

(07:56):
we disagree on, you know, and uh, and all we
really want to do is be happy and healthy and
raise our families and and uh and be able to
have a shot at at you know, the American dream.
So who who doesn't agree with that? And and then
call me and let's and let's have a conversation about it,
because I don't I wouldn't. You know, I don't understand

(08:19):
how you were not on that page. You know, Jeremy,
you and I met for the first time with Tommy
larn We were out watching an Alabama LSU football game
in twenty twenty in Nashville when there were still our
restrictions on how long bars could be open. Our mutual
friend Steve Ford owns a bunch of bars in downtown

(08:40):
Nashville and was chomping at the bit over what was allowed,
and we left that bar to go back to your house,
and you had the Utah football game on, by the way,
where Salt Lake City is one of the cities where
we're number one, And I walked in. I was like, Oh,
this guy must be a pretty big college football fan.
Your son was a student manager, it turned out, on

(09:00):
the Utah football team, and so you were watching that game.
But I'd always been a fan of your band, and
certainly of the of the iconic songs that you've produced,
including the one that we're using to start every hour.
But that was where I said, oh, man, this is
this is a dude who overlaps with me in a
lot of different areas. And that was during a time

(09:21):
when the city of Nashville was trying to say you
couldn't have more than like five people in your house,
which kind of goes to the whole point of how
absurd all this was. Well, if you remember that night too,
I mean the cops were called from a neighbor and yeah,
it ended up being a whole thing, a whole lot
what happened. Yeah, by the way, for people who don't know,

(09:42):
we went back to watch college football games and have
some drinks when the bars were shutting down your house
in Davidson County, which is where Nashville is, the cops
showed up. I think they were like fifteen or twenty
people there. It wasn't like it was a you know,
raging house party. Everybody was pretty much indoors, just having
a few drinks and watching some football. It wasn't even

(10:04):
that late. And the cops came. I mean, which, by
the way, is just an element of how crazy it was.
Whatever ended up happening with that, well, that was my
brother's house that time. And uh and yeah, I mean
he got arrested and he had to go to court,
he had to do community service and pay a fine
and hire a lawyer, and and yeah, you're right. It

(10:26):
was about fifteen people there, and I would say, you know,
eight of them were standing out on the deck, you know,
having a cigar or a cigarette or whatever. And there
was a handful in the house. Is also, you know,
a four thousand square foot house with plenty of space
and tall ceilings and everything else. And it was and
you know, they came into the backyard if you remember,
and they were like filming us from the backyard. It

(10:46):
was a real odd, odd experience, and honestly, I think
it was probably the next day that my wife and
I started looking at houses outside of Nashville. We ended
up moving out by you, out in Franklin and so
where it sounds like Fouci was going to appears, Buck.
This is Nashville, Tennessee, a city known for creativity and

(11:09):
people having a good time. We're not talking about like
four hundred people at a house and they arrested your
brother for having like fifteen of us over and for
violating the law about how many people you could have
over at your own home. And a bunch of those people,
to his point, were standing on the backyard deck outdoors

(11:30):
smoking cigars or drinking beers around a little fire pit,
if I remember correctly, Yeah, it was. It was purty insane. Um. Yeah,
you know, Gavin DeGraw was there that night too, and
I remember standing out there talking to the officers out
in the street, which, by the way, you know, God
blessed them, and they were just enforcing some silly order

(11:51):
that they were handed down and by the mayor, and
you know, they weren't stoked on on getting you know,
they drew the short straw that night and had to
be on uh, you know, house patrol shift or whatever.
But they kind of had a look on their faces like, yeah,
tell us about it. This sucks, you know. And but
I remember Gavin saying to a couple of them, like, so,

(12:12):
wait a minute, you're telling me that if I have
a twenty thousand square foot house, I could still only
have fifteen people over or eight people or whatever the
number was. But it was one of those things where
it just didn't make any right, It didn't make any sense.
It's like if a one bedroom apartment is the same
as a you know, six bedroom house or there was.
None of them made any sense, Jeremy, because all those

(12:32):
people got COVID probably twice anyway. And don't even get
me started on the next how perfect of a Nashville
story would it be? Gavin DeGraw the bandlet Tommy Lairy,
and Clay Travis all get arrested for having beers in
a private home and violating COVID law. I mean, I
feel like people are going to look back on this

(12:52):
and say, this is one of the dumbest things that's
ever occurred in the United States history. Yeah, all right, Jeremy,
how do people check out? Are you guys? Still tour
or where can they go? And obviously they hear the
song listening to this show, but if they want to
hear more LIT songs or see you guys live, So
we just we're here in southern California right now because
we just did We just played Adam Carolla's party and
then the day before that we had our album released party.

(13:15):
Our new record just came out on Friday, So if
everyone could go give it a spin, we would appreciate that.
It's called Taste Like Gold and in iTunes, you know,
go on iTunes and get and get it and check
out Lit band Official on any of the socials and
give us a shout. And and uh man, just we
were so stuck that you guys m A are playing

(13:37):
us every day and supporting our band, and we love
you guys, and happy anniversary and thinks for thank you
so much. Man. We we're honored to honor to play
the song. It's fantastic. All the best to you and
I'm sure we'll see you guys hopefully soon, maybe in Nashville.
And also congrats to our our good friend Tommy on
her new show super Stoked on that No Doubt out
kick YEP yep, Yeah, welcome back in Clay Travis Buck

(14:02):
Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us
as you hear that song playing in the background, My
Own Worst Enemy by Let, a nineties staple, It is
going to become the new theme music that you hear
at the beginning of the first, second, and third hour
of the program. We mentioned this yesterday as the song

(14:23):
that Rush had used for a long time is now
working its way. It's expiring, and so we're not going
to be able to use that. We walked through with
all of you the storyline about why exactly that was,
and we went a long way down the line to
try to find a band and a song that we

(14:44):
knew supported and reflected your own values. So thanks to
let for allowing us to work My Own Worst Enemy
into the rotation on this show. And I wanted to
read a couple of VIPs here Buck that wrote in
obviously a lot of you have a lot of different
opinions on this issue, Kenders said. I admit I teared

(15:06):
up as you guys were talking about how you thoughtfully
chose the music and Buck's perfect analogy of retiring the jersey,
because while I'm sad to see the end of Beloved,
of the beloved melody that brings back so many great
memories of Rush. I'm thankful for you guys and how
you're continuing Rush's mission and bringing sanity to an insane world.

(15:27):
What a gift to all of us who miss Rush
to pick music by musicians who listen to Rush like
we did. So cool. You guys are a true class act,
and you are doing Rush proud, that's for sure. And Buck.
We also got an email from another VIP mcguel, who
was a UPS driver. He's worked at UPS, he said

(15:48):
since nineteen eighty four, started listening to Rush on his
portable radio that he still uses with C batteries and
still does deliveries. And he said, I want to let
you guys know I'm stoked you pick Delete my own
Worst Enemy as your new intro. Great pick. I sang
that song in a nineties tribute band I was in
for four years. My nephew formed the band in twenty fourteen,

(16:11):
named it the Clinton Administration for our love of nineties
alternative rock. Ironically, all five members are hardcore conservatives. Many
of our shows started with that iconic tune. He said.
Congrats on the Great Show, and he just joined the
Clay and Buck twenty four seven membership club. He encourages
listeners to support as well. Thanks to Miguel Ortega for

(16:35):
sharing that story. Let's say Clay as someone who listened
to Rush stretching all the way back to when I
was in high school and was a guest host for
Rush for many years on his program, two things that
I'm absolutely certain of he would want us to follow
through on. Serve his audience. Try to save the country.

(16:56):
That's what we're focused on every day. That's what we're
trying to do. If Rush, we could have him from
heaven now speak to all of us, he would say,
serve my audience, guys, help save the country. So you
know music, Yes, I get it. We're on the mission.
That's what we're doing. And we wanted to be straightforward
with you guys again about the rights expiring in the

(17:16):
wake of Rush's death, and we used it for a
year and we don't have those rights anymore. So starting Monday,
we'll be opening the show with the new theme music.
If you're curious about some of the details behind it,
you can go to Clay and Buck dot com. It's
posted at the top of the website. We'll lay out
well we said yesterday on the show and also give
you guys an idea of some of the behind the

(17:37):
scenes and background stories as to how we picked the
song that we did, which I believe you guys are
going to grow to love as well. Welcome back in
Jesse Kelly aka Kamala Harris and Sacramento in nineteen ninety six,
going out for dinner. We are joined now by Jesse Kelly,

(18:04):
who many of you will hear later in this evening.
Good to see you, Good to talk to you. Syndicated
radio host Jesse Kelly and probably the tallest United States
Marine you have ever served. Jesse, what's up man? You know,
I wish I could say it was good to talk
to you guys. I even convinced myself maybe this would
be fair in an even handed interview and an accounting

(18:27):
of the events that happened that night. But as soon
as I heard gold Digger, I knew why it was
being played, and I knew that my honor has been
has been besmirched on the Great Play and Bucks Show.
And now now we're enemies. Tell us now we're enemy
all right? So the storyline for people who might have
missed it. Went out to dinner as friends on well

(18:48):
you were you went to like a play? Right? Where
did you go on Saturday? Jesse went to Broadway? This
is why, this is why I didn't want to come on. Yeah, okay,
my wife wanted to go see some sorry musical called Chicago. Yeah.
I took her to Chicago. Okay, I stuffed my sixth
eight frame. And it's tiny, crappy little seats. Did you

(19:09):
have good seats? No? Oh yeah we Oh of course
we got good seats. iHeart God love him hooked us
up with you. It's the person behind Jesse who always
has bad seats, by the way, because so you spent
two and a half hours at Chicago. Yes, and then
when you came out, you came out to get free.

(19:32):
You went to a musical, and then you come out
to dinner with us or a post dinner. Uh. And
we go to this hotel it's rooftop and uh. In
order to be seated, you have to order a bottle
of something. Because it's New York City, it's Buck's hometown.
They uh, and I don't know what it is Buck.
I don't know if you noticed this. Every time I
go in anywhere, they think that I can't afford anything.

(19:55):
Maybe I don't dress well enough. But clay in some
of these established when they see tattered shorts and flip flopsy,
they make some assumptions. When it's like fifty degrees outside,
I walked I walked it up to the guy at
the at the top of the hotel and I said,
can we get a table please? And he was like, well,
you know you have to buy you know, it's to
spending a lot of you know, like basically it was

(20:17):
like telling me, hey, poor kid, like you can't afford
to be here. I was like, yeah, I can afford
to buy a bottle of wine. So we sit down,
poor wine, and you order your own drink. Say, oh,
I had to get the tequila shots because I did.
You ordered your own drink right, like general into his
old fashioned though, like is that a thing? Does you know?

(20:39):
Let let's clarify something here. I don't drink wine, okay.
I grew up in Ohio, in Montana. I eat velveta,
I eat doritos and cheeseburgers. I don't sip on red wine,
So of course I ordered my own drink. The tequila
shots who were to try to make everybody have fun,
have more fun, probably because you guys were bringing a down.

(21:01):
Let me also say this in defense of Bucking myself.
I can't say who it was, but we're trying to
recruit someone who was in sports media to come work
at OutKick, and that was the order that she placed.
So she ordered the red wine. Buck and I, being gentleman,
are like, yeah, well you're like red wine, but were
surprising that as Jesse ordered his Old Fashion, I saw

(21:24):
a pinky ring on his finger. It was amazing, all right.
So we're all sitting there enjoying our red wine except
for Jesse, who has his own Old Fashion, and then
he just out of nowhere. Jesse is like, we gotta
get four shots of the most expensive tequila, which Bob Pittman,
who owns the entire company, has founded, the Cassa Dragons,

(21:47):
and Buck says to you, Jesse, as I recall, that's
gonna be really expensive. I think, I said, Jesse, you're
ordering a mortgage payment's worth of tequila. I think that
was I think that, And Jesse was like, basically like chop, chop,
I'll take two rounds, my good man, okay, okay. Now
now it's my turn to clarify, because you guys are

(22:09):
missing a very convenient detail of this whole thing. Yes,
I ordered the tequila shots. Yes, Buck issued a warning
that it was expensive. Where I come from, shots cost
two dollars as a special on Friday night. If you
tell me there's an expensive shot, I think we're talking
fifteen dollars, right, ten fifteen dollars. Buck did not say

(22:30):
they were going to be seventy five dollars a piece.
If Buck tells me, hey, Jesse, watch out when you
open the fridge, I'm going to assume, oh no, there
might be a bottle in there that might fall out.
If I opened the fridge and a Siberian tiger jumps
out and attacks me. That's not on me. That's on
Buck for not disclosing the appropriate amount of detail. That's

(22:51):
a fair point. Where you surprised Buck that it was
seventy five dollars a shot, even as a New Yorker.
Did that seems steep to you? No? I mean that
that place, it's actually where I went on my fur
date with Carrie. Believe it or oh, that rooftop has
some history. So I am familiar. We tried to go
somewhere next door, and then then we went there, and

(23:12):
that is one of the more look everyone knows and
every everyone who lives in a city anywhere, or even
a pretty good sized town of the country. This is
like one of the more expensive hotels in the city.
And expensive hotels, I mean, you know, I remember I
was in a fancy hotel once in France. I ordered
a yogurt and it was the equivalent of forty dollars.
Like you know, they'll just they'll charge you anything in
these places. But when you're looking at that, you know

(23:34):
that shelf of booze where everything almost looks like Indiana
Jones had to go and find it somewhere else around
the world, and he was being chased by a boulder
to get this glass carafe or whatever. You mess with
that shelf of booze at a place like the Peninsula Hotel,
and you're gonna pay through the Even I, which we've

(23:54):
already established, was not considered rich enough to even be
able to sit at a table up there. Even I,
when I looked at the bill and saw that they
were seventy five dollars each a shot was actually Jesse Jesse,
can I tell you something. Clay wanted to go full
pretty woman when they brought the bill and be like,
big mistake, big mistake. Well, now, another another little detail

(24:19):
that you have not told the Clay and Buck audience
is I offered to pay. I was even I even
did the thing where I was reaching into my pocket
to pull out my wallets because I felt bad because
I had ordered the seventy five dollars shots and Clay
took advantage of that and paid anyway just so he
could come trash me with you guys on this that

(24:40):
could be true. I definitely noticed that I had an
advantage also at that point, like trying to divvy up
the bill and everything else. I thought there was way
more value in being able to blame you for ordering
the seventy five dollars shots than allowing you to play. Plus,
I don't want to throw Aubrey under the bus here,
but I'm definitely gonna do it. You had already do

(25:00):
you confess that you were living on the high life
there because you took her shopping at like Sacks Fifth
Avenue or something, And I figured at that point I
didn't need to take more money out of your wallet. Well,
I didn't know what Sacks Fifth Avenue was. We walked in.
We had to get something for her parents as a thing. Look,
we don't have to go into the details. Okay, you
know what, Maybe we should talk about Buck at his quarter,

(25:20):
his dime sized craft. Oh, how dare you, sir? It's
a very solid it's a very solid married man. Pivot.
See that you're about to get flattened and you immediately
attack someone else. I had the cocktail party. Crab cakes
are not supposed to be the size of basketballs. Listen,
Paul Bunyan, you got to settle down on this one.

(25:41):
There was a carving station with red meat. You needed
to go to that first and foremost cocktail party passed
or dirts small crab cakes. You just got to spare
a few of them at a time and eat them
like bond bonds. I couldn't spare a few of them
at the time. The wife was right there, and every
time I tried to double up, she told me this
is a sophisticated place. Yet that anymore so this is

(26:03):
not on me. Maybe next time, find some adult crabs
to make crab cakes. I'm just gonna tell you this
is an important pro tip for everybody. If you ever
go to a cocktail party and you're hungry, it is
essential where you position yourself in the room because the
food's always coming in from one place, and the good
the good orderves go very quickly, So you've got to
find the route of ingress for the crab cakes, for

(26:24):
the bacon wrap shrim for the chicken sate, and the
peanut sauce, all the above. So Jesse, it is interesting.
I didn't know there were crab cakes at all. The
biggest issue and no pun intended here, that came out
of the out of Buck's engagement party was I'm never
getting picture taken with you again. I've not been. I

(26:46):
never nobody ever sees a picture of me and says
positive things, no matter what. I've never been savaged for
being short in my entire life like I was after
that photo went out. Well, it's not just honestly, it's
not my height. There's nothing you can do about that.
It's my height. And then I've been told that my
face is really symmetrical. Me and Denzel Washington, we have

(27:08):
symmetrical faces. So it's not just that I'm above you, guys.
I'm so radiant. It kind of blows people away and
everyone else kind of just fades into the background, so
it makes you seem small. It's really not your well, Jesse.
I really do appreciate you coming up from Houston though,
for the party. Considering when I made the toast and
the main photo that everybody saw that it's been circulating.
You're standing in the background and everyone's like, nice toast,

(27:31):
Fronto Baggins. Why were you behind them for the toast?
Do you know why he was behind me? It was
like he was gonna hold up his hand like you
must be Vis tall for a ride, You must be
Vis tall to give a toast. No. Once again, once
again I'm made out to be the bad guy. I
was behind you because we were talking. You and me

(27:52):
were having a discuss, and you turned around, took the
microphone and started giving a speech. What was I supposed
to do? Lay down on the floor. That's where I
happen to be. I'm just approach it for everybody. Always
tell Jesse Durgaphoto to take a knee. Okay, I'm just
telling you otherwise you're not going to be a happy camper.
All right. Last question for you, Jesse, here you've clearly
established that you're a gold digger in the Kamala Harris
of the Premiere Radio family. But the speaking of gold diggers,

(28:18):
do you think that Hunter Biden is actually gonna get
charged or not with any crime. I believe he will
be charged with a crime, and it will be held
over Joe Biden's head. So you will see Joe Biden
after the mid terms. I would guess December, January, maybe February,
Joe Biden will resign the presidency, claiming some form of

(28:40):
illness or something like that, and then you'll know for
a fact they held the Hunter Biden thing up as
a way to move Joe out because you actually think
he'll resign, not just announced that he's not going to
run for reelection. No, no, no, I believe I believe
he'll resign because they need time. You can't have Joe
Biden just say I'm not going to run for reelection.
They're gonna the midterms are gonna have been done. It's

(29:01):
officially presidential campaign season at the time. To shovel Papa
Joe out the back door. He can move on to
Delaware and sniff kids, and then they're gonna go run
Gavin Newsom and maybe Eric Adams, and you know Kamala
is gonna run. There's no way. Dome's not gonna run.
And they're gonna run reapporal buck Gig and that it's
gonna be the same group of crazy as they rail
brand before. What do you think the odds are of

(29:23):
a Kamala and and and mayor Pete combo ticket? What
do you think would happen if it were Kamala and
mayor Pete one? You could make the argument easily that
presidential ticket sucks more than any presidential ticket has ever
sucked ever. But they're not going to do that. Dome everyone, hay, sir,

(29:43):
bud Gig can't win the black boat. He cannot. That's
why he Remember he struggled so much in the primary.
Last he was out drinking forties out of paper bags
with black Times. I saw that pure bost It's one
of the funniest video pictures I've ever seen in my life.
I think Gavin Newsom is the guy as much as
I despise he's look, let's be frank, he's a good look.
He's not as good looking as me, but very good looking.

(30:04):
He's a fundraising juggernaut. He's a darling to the left.
I didn't you know why Jesse has so much respect
for Newsome because he's like over six two. That's the thing.
Jesse's a highist. So Jesse Jesse Kelly Show Everybody six
to nine pm and syndication. I'm Premiere Networks, and Jesse
would just before you go, what are you going to
be drinking this weekend? You know what, I'm gonna go

(30:26):
out and I'm gonna get some wine and i might
even get some expensive Sequila, and I'm gonna sit around
and I'm gonna drink it and prove you guys, I'm
not cheap and I'm not that white trap. The tallest
Thurston Hall, the third I've ever seen. Jesse Kelly, everybody
check out his show, check out his podcast. Jesse, have
a great weekend. Big hug for Aubrey. It'd be a
good boy. We also got some great emails in for

(30:47):
today's show about VIPs or from VIPs. I should say
here's one. I thought this was great. It's from It's
from Jim. He says, clay in Buck, I hunted submarines
as a Navy helicopter pilot in the ninth nineties. I'm
glad I was not a submariner. Tough job. I highly
recommend Greyhound with Tom Hanks, which was an Apple TV movie.

(31:08):
I believe Hunt for Red October. I just watched that
with Kerry recently. It was her first ever time great film.
I mean, why do they have a Scottish guy playing
a Russian defector? Side note? Who cares? But he gave
a warning for Alec Baldwin firearm usage in that movie,
which is true, and then runs silent, Run Deep. I've
actually never heard of that one. And he also wants

(31:28):
more history podcast Clay, which we gotta work on. He says, Hey,
Clay Gigham Aggs, there you go text say and m
fighting Naggies. What is that? Oh teas, Oh that's a
team that war cry In my repertoire I mentioned earlier
people who are like, where did that email come from?
I cannot imagine being in a submarine underwater four months

(31:52):
at a time. I would go to everyone who's done it.
I'm sure there's a bunch of people listening to us
right now who have done it. A good friend of
mine from a high school in it. I would go.
I would go bonkers locked up, you know, the underground
like that. The World War two submarines, And if anyone
wants to read a book that goes into this at
some extent, there's a book called Shadow Divers. It's actually

(32:13):
about wreck diving. I've given it as I gave it
as a recommendation to Carry's dad recently. Everyone I've ever
recommended this book too. It's just such a good read.
It's like it's a fun, fast read. But it's about
these wreck divers who find a U boat off the
coast of New Jersey. U boat is short for the
it's like, you know, unter whatever boat, which is you know,
the German word for a for a submarine, and it's

(32:37):
a it's a great book goes into this at some detail.
But they were mostly you know, they were largely surface
ships that would dive right, so they would they would
often come up, certainly for attacking and and just to
get some fresh air. But as I said, seventy five percent,
I think it was something like thirty or forty thousand
German World War two submariners died, which was seventy five

(33:01):
percent of the of the overall number of people who
are in those submarines. And their unrestricted warfare strategy with
the submarines at one point actually came pretty close to
the goal. Submarines were super effective for periods of time
before counter submarine measures got much better. But yes, Clay,
I think that would be my last choice, last choice
for choice for me. Yeah, wouldn't be able to handle

(33:22):
that one. Oh, I just I mean more credit power
to the people who are able to do it. But
I think that would be the singal. Have you read
Shadow Divers? No, I'm not okay after football season. Am
I gonna bother you with anything during? But but since
you have seen after football season, you gotta read Shadow Divers.
Tell me if you like it and then um uh
because also super deep sea like deep sea wreck diving

(33:43):
is another thing that's like not high on my list
but fun to read about. Uh, you know it's cold,
super dangerous. Yeah, I can't see anything House of the
Dragon on HBO. I'm I'm liking it. At six episodes in,
I know. I that's the only show that I can
watch other than college foot ball or the NFL. By
the way, I will be in South Carolina this weekend,

(34:05):
looking forward to being at Clemson for their game against
NC State. I'll be there with Big noon kickoff. I've
not been to a game, have not been to Clemson before.
I hear it's beautiful, so I'm looking forward to visiting
that part of the country. But House of the Dragons
six episodes in, it's really good. It's the Game of
Thrones spin off prequel series, and I know a Game

(34:27):
of Thrones killed it in terms of the interesting phase
they're probably given all the people who die in it
has been wildly popular. I'm impressed through six episodes with
this new it's better than I expected it would be.
That would you say that some of the key moments
in the original Game of Thrones were the most shocked
you've ever been in real time watching either a TV
show or movie, because there were a couple of times
where I still I was, and I've grew up watching

(34:50):
action movies and I still was like, Wow, I can't
believe that just happened. The Red Wedding episode is the
single most shocking episode I think in the history of
streaming or television or whatever you want to say. I've
never seen anything like it.

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