October 8, 2021 • 37 mins
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What's Joe Biden good at? He's failing on everything. CNBC anchors shocked by terrible September jobs report. RNC ad hits Dems for defund the police. Texas school shooter released on just $75K bail. Caller who was arrested for January 6th protest.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the Friday edition of The
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Thanks so much for
being here. Much to get to today in the way
of news conversation, and also it is open line Friday,
which means we'd love to hear from you. What do
you think about what we're talking about? What's on your mind? America?
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Eight hundred two two eight eight two? That number, you know,
the number, eight hundred two two to eight eight two.
Let's get those lines lit and have a chat. We
got a really bad jobs report, I mean so bad
that the Biden spin team is looking a little bit
dizzy trying to figure out how do they explain only
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one hundred and ninety four thousand jobs added while they
were expecting five hundred I should say, there was an
estimate of five hundred thousand going into it for the
month of September. So the slowest hiring, slowest pace, rather
of job grow all year. Well, you'd think that aren't
we getting better and better? Right? Build back worse seems
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to be the real Biden's slogan. We should be having
a lot of wind in ourselves, but of this economy.
We'll come to that in a moment. We've also got
the alleged school shooter, freed on bail, already went in
shot four people. One of the victims struggling for his life,
still out on bail. The school shooter right away. Usually
you think, you go into a school, you shoot four people,
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you try to murder someone, almost murder four people, you're
out on bail the next day and you're just hanging out.
That's interesting. It feels like there's maybe a different standard
that's at work. I wonder what's going on in that case.
We'll talk about it. BLUs. You got Hunter Biden's art
show in New York City is postponed because it turns out, oh,
there are people who might be able to influence Hunter
(01:52):
by buying his finger paintings for five hundred thousand dollars.
It's not that hard to have a conversation with him
and then pretend you're an anonymous, anonymous patron of Hunter
Biden's artwork, and then both play and I watch the
Dave Chappelle Netflix special. It's gotten a lot of heat
over the conversation around the lgbt Q plus community. Which
(02:13):
I know justin Trudeau of Canada has a whole new
acronym that's like two l s plus plus minus and percent.
I mean, there's all these all these new things being
added to the acronym all the time. We'll get to
that in a moment, but play I want to I
want to pose this as a question on whatever to
think about. So there are a lot of answers, but
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I think that it puts our conversation in a pretty
useful framework. Right now, what is Joe Biden good at?
Because I think it's clear it's not being president, and
everyone who's being honest is seeing that play out in
real time. It's such a great question. I don't know
the answer, because Buck, if you just rated Joe Biden
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right now and tried to find out what is the
least bad performance by Joe Biden so far, I was
thinking about this. I'm glad you raised it. He's clearly
failing on an epic level at the border. Inflation is
a disaster. We're talking about epic, unbelievable levels of murder
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that are going on. There are ten point nine million
open jobs right now and we can only somehow get
one hundred and ninety four thousand people hired. All of
those things are unmitigated disasters, and certainly foreign policy with Afghanistan,
everything could not have gone worse. The only thing that
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I can say that hasn't turned to crap since Biden
took over is he hasn't completely eliminated the tariffs and
the hard line that Donald Trump took against China. Now
he's not going to be anywhere near as effective. But
you know, somebody who's tweeting me, they were like, hey,
you've said before you don't root against the American president
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to fail, And that is true. I don't think it
regardless of who the political party the president represents is.
I don't want China to think that they can invade
Taiwan because we have an incompetent president. Right. There are
things that every president's going to do or not do
that you agree or disagree with. That's bad for everybody. Yeah,
that's bad for I mean, look, I don't want World
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War three to happen because Joe Biden is so bad
at his job, right, But I really, other than not
changing some of the policies on China, it's almost impossible
to it's almost impossible to be worse. I mean, you
and I both buck expected that Joe Biden would be
a really bad American president. I didn't expect for it
to be this bad, this soon. He has gone below
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my already very low expectation for me. And this isn't
just something that you and I are feeling. And you know, yeah,
we work in radio and politics and media. The Poland
shows us the people who have a mind that is
open to being changed by reality and facts. Independent swing voters,
all the data, any and even some sliver of Democrats
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are disappointed in what's going on with Joe Biden so
far up to this point. And I do think it's
it's important for everybody remember where we were a year
ago and what they were telling us it was going
to be like, right, all the speeches about I'm going
to crush the virus, not the economy. It turns out
Joe's pretty good at crushing the economy and not the virus.
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It shows us that there was really no effort. All
the talk of unity. You know that they made Trump
into this demonic figure and we're willing to, as we know,
lie about them with Russia collusion, and we could do
all three hours show now when all the lies they
told about Trump. But the promise was there will be
normalcy and unity when they're in power. And that's how
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they sold it to people in Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, you
know in the Pennsylvania said I'd find it's COVID, it's
a pandemic. Joe will bring us back to normal, Joe
will build back better. Right, I mean, give me a break.
Now we see this no effort. I mean, the unity
thing went away day I mean day one, right, as
soon as you sat down the Oval Office started fighting
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all the executive orders. Might as well have been AOC
sitting in the Oval Office at that point in time.
And then you've seen since then everything that they try
to do, everything that is in Biden's purview, doesn't go well.
You have to lower your expectations constantly, even if you
had low expectations to begin with. And now they're trying
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to tell us all this stuff like we can't actually
see where is inflation? Why are there what eleven million
jobs open? What are the reasons for this? I don't know.
Maybe businesses and just the people in the economy working
the economy in general are concerned about unnecessary regulation, inflation,
huge spending, raising taxes, the continuation by the way of
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the lockdowns in the Blue states, You're starting to see
the economic divide really play out as well. The Blue
state panic porn stuff in New York and California is
holding back those economies at a state level, when Red
states are saying we're going back to work, folks. There
is a real difference here. Yeah, and I think we
need to keep hammering home for average people out there.
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And you and I have both been average people. I
live in the middle part of the country. I pay
attention as I'm driving around. What are the prices of gas?
Gas is a seven year high buck eighty dollars a barrel.
Now it's gone over. This is real money out of
real people's pockets. Study that came out this week the
average American, because of the rising rate of inflation, is
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paying one hundred and seventy five dollars extra a month
for the same things that they would have bought in
past years. Biden keeps saying, oh, I'm not going to
raise taxes on anybody making less than four hundred thousand
dollars a year. The American people are smart when they
look at their pocketbook, and they recognize an additional several
thousand dollars. That's a real Let's talk about this for
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a minute. If you're making thirty five thousand dollars a year,
let's say you're the average American family out there, forty
five thousand dollars a year, fifty whatever. It is a
couple of extra thousand dollars out of your pocket, which
is what inflation is costing that you are not able
to deal with at all because you might have already
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had a tight budget. The fact that your taxes are
not being raised by the federal government doesn't mean that
the money going out from your pocket for buying the
basics in your life isn't also going up. And it's
as if people don't recognize and this goes to and
I want to play a clip for everybody when we
come back in this next break. The reaction on CNBC
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to only one hundred and ninety four thousand jobs. But
the larger context to your buck is Democrats don't understand
basic business and they don't understand basic the economics, because
if they did, he added one hundred and seventy five
dollars for this inflation tax, which is what's going on
is a monster deal to people all over the country. Well,
a lot of them don't understand business. And I think
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that there are those in the Democrat Party because they
would say, oh, but what about you know the Ratners.
I remember where Bruce Ratner was in charge of the
GM restructure of the Obama aministration. A hedge fund guy, right,
I mean they you know, they've had people who are
coming from the business world. Yeah, but they go along
with an ideology that says that they can override with
enough government power market forces or ignore market forces in
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basic human nature because they're so smart. So you either
have ignorance pushing Democrat economic policy or extreme hubris. A
word that I've been using a lot lately, but I
think it's quite applicable here where they think all of
a sudden, it doesn't matter. Clay, we are approaching thirty
trillion dollars in debt. Everybody should just take a moment
and go back and look at what was happening in
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the country in two thousand and nine and two and ten,
when we were at a fraction of the national debt
that we're at now, and people were deeply concerned about
their children, their grandchildren's futures and what it means we
are seeing right now the early This is like the
tide is rising up at our feet. We are seeing
what's happening with inflation because of these government policies. And
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it's because there are people who believe that the government
is effectively Santa Claus. He just can get free stuff
out to everybody. And it's only the big, bad, mean
evil Republicans who don't want everyone to have endless free stuff.
There's no endless free This is a big point that
I don't think a lot of people have recognized. And
by the way, Republicans are not ceasing to be blamed
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here because they've gone along to a certain extent. Modern
monetary policy basically is instructing politicians that debt doesn't matter.
That the amount of national debt that we take on,
which has become massive because of COVID at a level
of government spending. We haven't seen bucks since World War Two,
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when we were fighting the Nazis and we had to
produce all the material to allow the war to be fought,
and the jay right, yeah, yeah, and the Japanese. We
had a lot of stuff going on in World War view. Yeah,
but but that is kind of in essence. We spent
the same caliber of GDP on fighting COVID as we
did to fight the Nazis and the Japanese in World
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War Two, and when that war it's pretty crazy when
you think about it, and there's no way you can
look at what the response has been pushed by experts
and then all the financial wizardry or what's supposed to
be wizardry behind it, and see what we've gone through
in this country and say, yeah, we do it's it's
been great how we've handled No one thinks it's been
great how we've handled COVID. So we have massive debt,
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a tremendous amount of misery, the destruction of freedom. And
where are we now. I mean, look at where the
economy currently is, and it's it looks like I think
it could get a whole lot worse. You look at
the supply chain right now. It sounds it's one of
these stories that sounds boring, kind of like the debt
for a lot of people on how the debt, it's
one of these things that sounds boring, and it's it's
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it's lingering in the background. It could mean empty shelves
in your wherever you are listening this right now, you're
gonna go in the store. They can say, Sarah, sorry,
you know, we don't have any you know, any milk toys.
Don't have any toys. Actually it's not gonna be milk.
It's gonna be stuff that's brought in from China. But yeah,
we're not gonna have toys for Christmas. They're gonna be
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there's gonna be problems like that. That's gonna be a
real issue. But we'll come back. By the way, the
CNBC thing is pretty funny because it's like whoa, Yeah,
it turns out he's building back better not so much,
not so much with this Bide administration. And we've been
talking about ways to save money a lot on the
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buck Sexton on the EIB Network Welcome back in Clay
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with us. We rolled through the Friday edition of the program.
We were talking about the announcement of the New Jobs Report.
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Only one hundred and ninety four thousand jobs newly announced.
The expectation was roughly five hundred thousand new jobs. And
by the way, we got to keep in mind, there
are right now ten point nine million open jobs in
this country. That is basically the largest amount of open
jobs that has ever existed. And for many of you
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out there, as you're driving around in your neighborhoods or
certainly if you own a small business, it's virtually impossible
to get people hired. You can go into a restaurant
right now and they can't even seat you because they
can't find people to work at the restaurant, no matter
what they are paying. And I want you guys to hear.
This is the CNBC anchors live as they hear for
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the first time the September jobs report. Listen to this.
Things are coming down pretty rapidly. We just have this report, Steve,
what do you see? Whoa, I see one hundred and
ninety four thousand. That is real low reacting in real time, Buck.
I mean they're look at this like, ah, that's not
that's not good. I mean I love it. The Ron
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claim thing too, you know, the White House cheapest staff.
He comes out immediately with a tweet about how, you know,
the most jobs created ever something. Look, buddy, when when
you belly flop in the shallow end of the pool
and you're the guy who's got a big sunburn, you know,
like when when it's really looking rough, you don't tell
everybody how you actually just won the Olympic gold medal,
like you don't you don't go in the other direction
and pretend like you're crushing it. And on the unemployment rate,
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a very important figure here is that people are dropping out.
There are eleven million open jobs, and people are dropping
out of the workforce at an accelerated rate. Maybe because
they got used to the benefits that they've been getting,
maybe because they're so scared of COVID, but it's not
because people are thinking, I want to get a piece
of this Biden economy as soon as possible. It's such
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a good question. You asked what Biden is doing well,
and the answer is basically nothing, which is why he
has a thirty eight percent approval rating and why seventy percent,
basically of independence are saying he's doing a disastrous job.
But I am really curious what are all these people
doing that they're not taking the ten point nine million
open jobs, right, I mean, because that's a level of
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open jobs that we've never seen before. And I just
find it to be utterly fascinating to think. Now we
partly it's what we've incentivized people. First of all, we
told them, hey, go home, you can't work. Then we
told them, hey, we'll pay you a lot of money
not to work, all the while terrifying a huge percentage
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of people that were never at risk that they were
going to die if they went to work. And now
suddenly we're telling everybody, Hey, go back to work. But
all of the incentives that we've provided them has basically
let people kick back on their couch, eat cheetos and
watch Netflix. Yeah, nobody who was, you know, under the
age of sixty and didn't have specific health concern should
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have ever been told really, maybe beyond the first couple
of weeks you should go home and not work. You
and I were saying, it's like April of last year,
and people were like, oh, you want everybody wanted remember this.
You and I were among the very very few. We
wanted everybody to die because we're like, guys, we just
have to face life. By the way, I got COVID,
You got COVID. You know we did face life. That's
what I'm up happening. We'll come back though, in a second.
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Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We have much to discuss, including the latest on the
COVID data, trying to look ahead. Where are we going
to be this wintertime? Where are we going to be
in the winter. That's what we're going to talk to
our friend Alex Barrenson at two o five eastern here
on the show. Alex, you know, kicked off a Twitter,
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So this is one of the few places where he
is platform to borrow a term from the left, one
of the few places where we give some amplification to
the data analysis that he does of COVID. We'll get
into all of that in a moment, but we'll talk
about criminal justice for a moment here. Well, the huge
spike in crime first and foremost that's happened as we've
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been discussing as a result of the defund the police movement,
of the rise of BLM and the riots around it,
and all that we saw starting around June of twenty twenty,
the undermining of police, but also the prosecutors' offices that
are taking a more social justice left wing Soros approved
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approach to prosecuting serious crimes. What is the result of
all of that, Well, we're seeing it play out in
major cities, places like Austin, Texas for example, Great City clan.
I are both fans of Austin, a lot of fun
to go visit, but has an all time high for
murder this year and defunded last year police by over
one hundred million dollars. Almost like there's a cause and
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effect at work. And here's just a reminder. This is
an ad that's been put out by the R and
C about what Democrats were saying on this issue. So
we've been talking about defunding the police. There's some issues
that we ask police to do, mental health issues or
policing in schools and all the rest that perhaps we
can shuffle some of that money around, suck it up.
Defunding the police has to happen. We need to defund
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the police. Mayor Eric car said he's saying take some
of the money from policing about one hundred fifty million
dollars time plot. Eric Car said he for doing what
he's done. Not only do we need to invest for
in police, but we need to completely dismantle the Minneapolis
Police Department. So many prominent Democrats said he at Nancy
Pelosi and many very prominent Democrats. Really the Democrat Party
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was behind the defund the police movement for a time,
Joe Biden specifically stood back from it a little bit,
but never called it out, never said that this was crazy,
which is what any reasonable person would do. But we
also see the decisions that are being made by their
criminal justice system and have to wonder what's going on.
I had mentioned to you earlier the week plan I
talked about a shootout with multiple people in Chicago. Yes,
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Kim Fox, the Prosecutor's office, mutual combat. I never by
the way, I worked for the NYPD for a game
of Brons, I'd never heard of the mutual combat clause
before for not prosecuting anybody. So, by the way, as
I understand it, there still hasn't been anybody charged with
an attempted murder over that one. And now we have
the school shooting that we started the show with yesterday, Clay,
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there was a school shooting, as we know, four people shot,
one of them fighting for his life. Still. An eighteen
year old, a legal adult in all fifty states, goes
into a school with a gun and at Timothy George Simpkins,
eighteen years old. This is in Arlington, Texas. He is
already he was. This is a mass shooting folks at
a school He has been released on seventy five thousand
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dollars bail. I texted a friend of mine as a
criminal defense attorney last night. Clay I said, what does
this look like to you? She responded, politics, What do
you think? It's unbelievable? Well, let me just give you
some facts here. This eighteen year old in high school
brought a forty five caliber handgun to school. Shot this
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zacaius Selby fifteen year old four times? All right, four times?
He was shot. And let me hit you with some
of the details here in terms of where he was shot.
He was shot. He's had two surgeries already. This fifteen
year old shot in his arm, leg, chest, and stomach.
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He's on a ventilator and is going to need more surgeries. Okay,
the fifteen year old who was in severe condition right now. Also,
this eighteen year old shot a teacher who was trying
to break up the fight. Okay, shot a teacher. I
want to give the teacher's name here because this part
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of the story is also crazy. Calvin Pettitt, I believe
is how you pronounce his name. A teacher who tried
to break up the fight was also wounded, and another
student was hit by a bullet. All right, So all
of these people are shot at school by an eighteen
year old and there's only a seventy five thousand dollars
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bond and this guy is already out. Fuck, this is crazy.
I mean when you look at a seventy five thousand
dollars bond, first of all, you only have to put
up a lot of time ten percent of a bond
to get out of jail. So you can shoot four
people at school, including a teacher, and get out of
jail for seventy five hundred dollars. Clay, let's understand this.
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The attorney representing him is claiming representing the shooter isn't defense.
You know, he's saying, it's quote, not a standard issue
school shooting end quote. I'm pretty sure when you go
grab a gun and you know you're not you're not
under threat, you're not defending. You go grab a gun
because you don't like someone or some people, and you
go try to murder them in school, multiple people, that
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is a school shooting. I mean that that. I'm sure.
I know that. You know, the Left says women can
get pregnant. I'm sorry, men can get women can get pregnant,
Yet men can get pre sorry about men could get pregnant.
I know there's some areas where they completely divert from reality,
but I'm still I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, fight
on this one. It is a school shooting when you
shoot four people in school. Also, it's a big deal
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to have a gun on a school campus. And it's
not as if we're talking even about an accidental discharge shooting,
which would still be pretty serious, because again it's at school.
He shot one of his classmates four times by play
four bribes. The part of this that I think the
Left hasn't really gotten as outrage about this guy brought
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a gun into a gun free zone. Did he not know?
Did he not see the rules that this was prohibit
I mean, this is why so much of the discourse
around how we stop violence like this is rooted in
the lack of liberal logic, the lack of understanding of
human nature, the fact that criminals do not care when
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you add yet another rule or regulation. I mean, you know,
all schools are gun free zones. Yes, as if any
school shooter in history has been like ooh, I don't know. Yeah,
there's a saying that says not a gun freeze. Now
you know, no guns allowed, and the fact that this
guy's out on Bill. But I just think it's so
interesting because of the profile of the shooter and because
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of this backstory there was a fight they are treating
this if let's just say that he was Let's say
he was a quiet kid, Clay, he was a quiet kid,
and they're having this fight before he just went in
and shot four people. They'd have him in like a
supermax facility awaiting trial right now. They'd have him in
solitary if so, eighteen buck, he's not even a kid,
like he's an adult for purposes of being charged with
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a crime. And he shot it not only one of
his classmates who was fifteen four different times. He also
shot a teacher accidental or not. It's kind of a
big deal to shoot a teacher. Yeah, I mean, I also,
I haven't really seen much of an explanation. He hit
four people, So is he just he was so reckless
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that he was trying to obviously kill the one person
that he claims bullied him and hit three other innocent
people in the process. I mean that that alone is
grounds you would think. I mean, this kid is kid,
he's an adult, reckless beyond words. But did he try
to kill more than one person? I mean, what does
it take for you to be held until trial? If
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not something like this, you wonder or I mean, just
think about it. In the context of the quote unquote insurrection, buck,
we got people in solitary confinement for walking into the capitol.
We got a school kid who's eighteen years old that's
shot one guy four times, as well as a teacher,
and nothing happens exactly right. That's a that's a perfect
example of how the political narrative here is driving criminal
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justice prosecutions in ways that are clearly unjust and politicized.
It's about narrative, and that's that's an excellent example. It's
also why I thought it's so interesting that you know,
Kim Kim Fox, a prosecutor in Chicago who just she likes,
you know, her family has ties to she likes Jesse Smollette,
and so he was able to get away with that. Hole. Now,
obviously that's a much less seriousness in these issues we're
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talking about here. But she lets him get away with that,
and then when it comes time to prosecute people who
are shooting each other like they're at the you know,
the Okay Corral and Broad Daylight. It's, oh, we we're
not going to bring any charges because we don't know
who started it. These are the people who were in
charge of dispensing justice. They're entrusted by the public to
do this. These are the district attorneys. Whether it's whether
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it's Chessa Budan in San Francisco or Krasner in Philadelphia
or obviously Fox in Chicago. You can't trust these people
to be making these decisions. And also, I mean, who
even let this get past seventy five hundred dollars for
a school shooter and he's back on the streets. It's crazy.
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in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We're talking about the extreme political
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nature of prosecution in the modern era in which we
live and how it can lead to wildly divergent outcomes
that are in no way connected to justice. We've got
a caller who says he was in the Capitol on
January sixth, and we're talking about the difference between the
eighteen year old inside of a school in Texas who
shot four different people allegedly and is out on a
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seventy five thousand dollars bond. And how did that compare
to what happened to you, our caller from California. Well,
let me tell you this is really wild. First off,
they rated my house. There was thirty people, thirty cops
that raided in my house. They arrested me at me
and my son had just got done playing golf. I
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was arrested at gunpoint, where we both had laser dots
all over us. I got thrown in jail for nine days.
I thought they were going to extradite me back to Washington, DC.
None of my charges are violent charges at all. They're
all picketing or attempting to remain in a building, which
I wasn't. I was in the building for under three minutes,
to be honest with you, and so I just wanted sorry, sorry,
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I want to cut you off. So you were there
on January sixth. You're saying you walked in. You just
kind of followed the mass of people into the United
States Capital for three minutes. How did they track you down? Well,
I'm six foot four, two hundred and some uptown man
with a huge beard on my face, and it was
pretty easy to identify me. But when I was actually
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forced in, it was a stampede of people that ran in.
And the very first thing I did I went in
to an officer and nic today, I'm not part of this.
What do I need to do? I was told to
go against the wall with my hands up and they
would help me get outside, which they did, and it
took about three and a half minutes. And once I
was outside, four of the officers one got thrown on
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the ground by his own fellow officers because the force
of the push, and three of them retreated behind a
door and they asked me to help them get back inside.
So I held the door open to help them to
protect them from the people behind me because it was
kind of wild on the side that I was on,
and I and I helped the officers get get back inside.
So I got I got I got a charge that
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was impeding an officer during an investigation going inside of
a capitol building or a restricted area. I got UM.
I got a charge of um of disrupting a political
thing where the vice president was, I got all. I
got six charges, very common charges that many other people got,
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and they almost didn't let me out of jail when
they found out I had a property with a ton
of equity in I was able to put my house up.
I have a two hundred thousand dollars property bond on
my home and that was the only way that I
was able to get out. And none of my charges
are violent, that even though I didn't do anything violent.
And I just still can't believe that the FBI rated
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my home and the search form they were coming for
a they came for a Trump had a T shirt
and a jacket. Wait, John, John, it's buckets. So it
was actually the FBI that came busting into your home
over this. Yes, the FIST. They might have thought that
you were at a at a parent teacher meeting and
said something mean to the teachers. By the way, because
we know the DJ these days is very interested in that.
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But John, I, where are you now? In the adjudication process, like,
where are I have you? Have you? Are you still
facing the charges? Do you know where this is going?
I'm still facing the charges. A matter of fact, I
was recently, and I don't want to give too much
information because I don't want the FBI to identify who
I am. Obviously my name is John Doe, but mine
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is more recent. I was one of at the later
end of the people arrested. And what are you facing?
How much time could you get? Well, the longest charge
carries twenty years. Wow, you were in the capital for
three minutes. The FBI rated your home. You had to
post a two hundred thousand dollars bond to get out
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of jail after spending you said nine days in jail.
That's correct, and you did. And and I'm lucky because
I'm out. How many guys are still in because they
don't have the assets to be able to post the
bail and get out. They've but they're being held in solitary.
Clan I were just talking about this in the break.
There are still non violent, non violent participants in January
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six who are being held in solitary have been held
for many months. John. We know obviously it's not your name.
You have a good warrior, John, Man, I have one
of the best around. Man. I really loved Amanda Pieces.
And he tells me over and over, Jinny said. He says, John,
don't worry at all. He said this, we're gonna, We're
gonna be this, and I believe we are the stating
about it. It's already cost me forty thousand dollars in
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attorney piece. Yeah, lawyers are very very expensive. Look, John,
we appreciate you calling in and giving us of you
into what it's really like here and what the criminal
justice systems like. And I know, God bless and stay safe.
Thank you for being here on the show. Clay, I
mean you just you said it right before. You've got people.
So you're you're part of a You're part of a
group that breaks into a building. There are hundreds of people.
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It's a big protest. Well, I know, people's blood is
kind of running hot at the times. A lot of
stuff going on. You step aside, you say, according to
what you know. We can only take him at his word.
We don't know, but he speaks a law enforced me
and he says, I don't want to be a part
of this stuff. And you face. I mean, does anyone
think that the guy, you know, how long is this
individual who just shot four people? How long is he
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held twenty four hours before they let him go on bail? Interesting,
isn't it. I'm so fired up about this. This is
me as a lawyer speaking fuck because everyone has to
have faith in our justice system in order for the
justice system to work. Really, I mean, that is the essence.
And I'm not saying we get everything perfect, because we don't.
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No system created by man is going to be perfect.
But the idea that we could have all of these
people facing the charges that they are for nonviolent for
the most part, breaking and entering, trespassing, whatever you want
to say of the United States capital, and simultaneously we
can have a violent school shooter. I mean, compare the
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difference between the treatment of those two. It's all politives.
This is the result of a continuous, coordinated narrative from
the Democrat apparatus of the white supremacist threat to America,
the insurrectionist threat, the Russia collusion threat. These incredibly either
exaggerated or fabricated narratives of terror that they use then
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create a perception among people that they can't treat their
fellow America. It's fairly because our democracy is at risk.
How many times you hear them say a threat to
our democracy when someone is you know, January was there
protesting on January six? Whatever it may be, We'll come back.
We got more on COVID. We got some the Dave
Chappelle special. Clay and I both watched it. The the
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left is very upset about that. We got a stacked
show for you. We're gonna be back with you in
a couple of minutes. You're listening to Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton on the EIB Network.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the Friday edition of The
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Thanks so much for
being here. Much to get to today in the way
of news conversation, and also it is open line Friday,
which means we'd love to hear from you. What do
you think about what we're talking about? What's on your mind? America?
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Eight hundred two two eight eight two? That number, you know,
the number, eight hundred two two to eight eight two.
Let's get those lines lit and have a chat. We
got a really bad jobs report, I mean so bad
that the Biden spin team is looking a little bit
dizzy trying to figure out how do they explain only
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one hundred and ninety four thousand jobs added while they
were expecting five hundred I should say, there was an
estimate of five hundred thousand going into it for the
month of September. So the slowest hiring, slowest pace, rather
of job grow all year. Well, you'd think that aren't
we getting better and better? Right? Build back worse seems
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to be the real Biden's slogan. We should be having
a lot of wind in ourselves, but of this economy.
We'll come to that in a moment. We've also got
the alleged school shooter, freed on bail, already went in
shot four people. One of the victims struggling for his life,
still out on bail. The school shooter right away. Usually
you think, you go into a school, you shoot four people,
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you try to murder someone, almost murder four people, you're
out on bail the next day and you're just hanging out.
That's interesting. It feels like there's maybe a different standard
that's at work. I wonder what's going on in that case.
We'll talk about it. BLUs. You got Hunter Biden's art
show in New York City is postponed because it turns out, oh,
there are people who might be able to influence Hunter
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by buying his finger paintings for five hundred thousand dollars.
It's not that hard to have a conversation with him
and then pretend you're an anonymous, anonymous patron of Hunter
Biden's artwork, and then both play and I watch the
Dave Chappelle Netflix special. It's gotten a lot of heat
over the conversation around the lgbt Q plus community. Which
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I know justin Trudeau of Canada has a whole new
acronym that's like two l s plus plus minus and percent.
I mean, there's all these all these new things being
added to the acronym all the time. We'll get to
that in a moment, but play I want to I
want to pose this as a question on whatever to
think about. So there are a lot of answers, but
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I think that it puts our conversation in a pretty
useful framework. Right now, what is Joe Biden good at?
Because I think it's clear it's not being president, and
everyone who's being honest is seeing that play out in
real time. It's such a great question. I don't know
the answer, because Buck, if you just rated Joe Biden
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right now and tried to find out what is the
least bad performance by Joe Biden so far, I was
thinking about this. I'm glad you raised it. He's clearly
failing on an epic level at the border. Inflation is
a disaster. We're talking about epic, unbelievable levels of murder
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that are going on. There are ten point nine million
open jobs right now and we can only somehow get
one hundred and ninety four thousand people hired. All of
those things are unmitigated disasters, and certainly foreign policy with Afghanistan,
everything could not have gone worse. The only thing that
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I can say that hasn't turned to crap since Biden
took over is he hasn't completely eliminated the tariffs and
the hard line that Donald Trump took against China. Now
he's not going to be anywhere near as effective. But
you know, somebody who's tweeting me, they were like, hey,
you've said before you don't root against the American president
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to fail, And that is true. I don't think it
regardless of who the political party the president represents is.
I don't want China to think that they can invade
Taiwan because we have an incompetent president. Right. There are
things that every president's going to do or not do
that you agree or disagree with. That's bad for everybody. Yeah,
that's bad for I mean, look, I don't want World
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War three to happen because Joe Biden is so bad
at his job, right, But I really, other than not
changing some of the policies on China, it's almost impossible
to it's almost impossible to be worse. I mean, you
and I both buck expected that Joe Biden would be
a really bad American president. I didn't expect for it
to be this bad, this soon. He has gone below
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my already very low expectation for me. And this isn't
just something that you and I are feeling. And you know, yeah,
we work in radio and politics and media. The Poland
shows us the people who have a mind that is
open to being changed by reality and facts. Independent swing voters,
all the data, any and even some sliver of Democrats
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are disappointed in what's going on with Joe Biden so
far up to this point. And I do think it's
it's important for everybody remember where we were a year
ago and what they were telling us it was going
to be like, right, all the speeches about I'm going
to crush the virus, not the economy. It turns out
Joe's pretty good at crushing the economy and not the virus.
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It shows us that there was really no effort. All
the talk of unity. You know that they made Trump
into this demonic figure and we're willing to, as we know,
lie about them with Russia collusion, and we could do
all three hours show now when all the lies they
told about Trump. But the promise was there will be
normalcy and unity when they're in power. And that's how
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they sold it to people in Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, you
know in the Pennsylvania said I'd find it's COVID, it's
a pandemic. Joe will bring us back to normal, Joe
will build back better. Right, I mean, give me a break.
Now we see this no effort. I mean, the unity
thing went away day I mean day one, right, as
soon as you sat down the Oval Office started fighting
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all the executive orders. Might as well have been AOC
sitting in the Oval Office at that point in time.
And then you've seen since then everything that they try
to do, everything that is in Biden's purview, doesn't go well.
You have to lower your expectations constantly, even if you
had low expectations to begin with. And now they're trying
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to tell us all this stuff like we can't actually
see where is inflation? Why are there what eleven million
jobs open? What are the reasons for this? I don't know.
Maybe businesses and just the people in the economy working
the economy in general are concerned about unnecessary regulation, inflation,
huge spending, raising taxes, the continuation by the way of
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the lockdowns in the Blue states, You're starting to see
the economic divide really play out as well. The Blue
state panic porn stuff in New York and California is
holding back those economies at a state level, when Red
states are saying we're going back to work, folks. There
is a real difference here. Yeah, and I think we
need to keep hammering home for average people out there.
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And you and I have both been average people. I
live in the middle part of the country. I pay
attention as I'm driving around. What are the prices of gas?
Gas is a seven year high buck eighty dollars a barrel.
Now it's gone over. This is real money out of
real people's pockets. Study that came out this week the
average American, because of the rising rate of inflation, is
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paying one hundred and seventy five dollars extra a month
for the same things that they would have bought in
past years. Biden keeps saying, oh, I'm not going to
raise taxes on anybody making less than four hundred thousand
dollars a year. The American people are smart when they
look at their pocketbook, and they recognize an additional several
thousand dollars. That's a real Let's talk about this for
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a minute. If you're making thirty five thousand dollars a year,
let's say you're the average American family out there, forty
five thousand dollars a year, fifty whatever. It is a
couple of extra thousand dollars out of your pocket, which
is what inflation is costing that you are not able
to deal with at all because you might have already
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had a tight budget. The fact that your taxes are
not being raised by the federal government doesn't mean that
the money going out from your pocket for buying the
basics in your life isn't also going up. And it's
as if people don't recognize and this goes to and
I want to play a clip for everybody when we
come back in this next break. The reaction on CNBC
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to only one hundred and ninety four thousand jobs. But
the larger context to your buck is Democrats don't understand
basic business and they don't understand basic the economics, because
if they did, he added one hundred and seventy five
dollars for this inflation tax, which is what's going on
is a monster deal to people all over the country. Well,
a lot of them don't understand business. And I think
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that there are those in the Democrat Party because they
would say, oh, but what about you know the Ratners.
I remember where Bruce Ratner was in charge of the
GM restructure of the Obama aministration. A hedge fund guy, right,
I mean they you know, they've had people who are
coming from the business world. Yeah, but they go along
with an ideology that says that they can override with
enough government power market forces or ignore market forces in
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basic human nature because they're so smart. So you either
have ignorance pushing Democrat economic policy or extreme hubris. A
word that I've been using a lot lately, but I
think it's quite applicable here where they think all of
a sudden, it doesn't matter. Clay, we are approaching thirty
trillion dollars in debt. Everybody should just take a moment
and go back and look at what was happening in
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the country in two thousand and nine and two and ten,
when we were at a fraction of the national debt
that we're at now, and people were deeply concerned about
their children, their grandchildren's futures and what it means we
are seeing right now the early This is like the
tide is rising up at our feet. We are seeing
what's happening with inflation because of these government policies. And
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it's because there are people who believe that the government
is effectively Santa Claus. He just can get free stuff
out to everybody. And it's only the big, bad, mean
evil Republicans who don't want everyone to have endless free stuff.
There's no endless free This is a big point that
I don't think a lot of people have recognized. And
by the way, Republicans are not ceasing to be blamed
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here because they've gone along to a certain extent. Modern
monetary policy basically is instructing politicians that debt doesn't matter.
That the amount of national debt that we take on,
which has become massive because of COVID at a level
of government spending. We haven't seen bucks since World War Two,
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when we were fighting the Nazis and we had to
produce all the material to allow the war to be fought,
and the jay right, yeah, yeah, and the Japanese. We
had a lot of stuff going on in World War view. Yeah,
but but that is kind of in essence. We spent
the same caliber of GDP on fighting COVID as we
did to fight the Nazis and the Japanese in World
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War Two, and when that war it's pretty crazy when
you think about it, and there's no way you can
look at what the response has been pushed by experts
and then all the financial wizardry or what's supposed to
be wizardry behind it, and see what we've gone through
in this country and say, yeah, we do it's it's
been great how we've handled No one thinks it's been
great how we've handled COVID. So we have massive debt,
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a tremendous amount of misery, the destruction of freedom. And
where are we now. I mean, look at where the
economy currently is, and it's it looks like I think
it could get a whole lot worse. You look at
the supply chain right now. It sounds it's one of
these stories that sounds boring, kind of like the debt
for a lot of people on how the debt, it's
one of these things that sounds boring, and it's it's
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it's lingering in the background. It could mean empty shelves
in your wherever you are listening this right now, you're
gonna go in the store. They can say, Sarah, sorry,
you know, we don't have any you know, any milk toys.
Don't have any toys. Actually it's not gonna be milk.
It's gonna be stuff that's brought in from China. But yeah,
we're not gonna have toys for Christmas. They're gonna be
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there's gonna be problems like that. That's gonna be a
real issue. But we'll come back. By the way, the
CNBC thing is pretty funny because it's like whoa, Yeah,
it turns out he's building back better not so much,
not so much with this Bide administration. And we've been
talking about ways to save money a lot on the
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Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. We rolled through the Friday edition of the program.
We were talking about the announcement of the New Jobs Report.
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Only one hundred and ninety four thousand jobs newly announced.
The expectation was roughly five hundred thousand new jobs. And
by the way, we got to keep in mind, there
are right now ten point nine million open jobs in
this country. That is basically the largest amount of open
jobs that has ever existed. And for many of you
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out there, as you're driving around in your neighborhoods or
certainly if you own a small business, it's virtually impossible
to get people hired. You can go into a restaurant
right now and they can't even seat you because they
can't find people to work at the restaurant, no matter
what they are paying. And I want you guys to hear.
This is the CNBC anchors live as they hear for
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the first time the September jobs report. Listen to this.
Things are coming down pretty rapidly. We just have this report, Steve,
what do you see? Whoa, I see one hundred and
ninety four thousand. That is real low reacting in real time, Buck.
I mean they're look at this like, ah, that's not
that's not good. I mean I love it. The Ron
(15:59):
claim thing too, you know, the White House cheapest staff.
He comes out immediately with a tweet about how, you know,
the most jobs created ever something. Look, buddy, when when
you belly flop in the shallow end of the pool
and you're the guy who's got a big sunburn, you know,
like when when it's really looking rough, you don't tell
everybody how you actually just won the Olympic gold medal,
like you don't you don't go in the other direction
and pretend like you're crushing it. And on the unemployment rate,
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a very important figure here is that people are dropping out.
There are eleven million open jobs, and people are dropping
out of the workforce at an accelerated rate. Maybe because
they got used to the benefits that they've been getting,
maybe because they're so scared of COVID, but it's not
because people are thinking, I want to get a piece
of this Biden economy as soon as possible. It's such
(16:44):
a good question. You asked what Biden is doing well,
and the answer is basically nothing, which is why he
has a thirty eight percent approval rating and why seventy percent,
basically of independence are saying he's doing a disastrous job.
But I am really curious what are all these people
doing that they're not taking the ten point nine million
open jobs, right, I mean, because that's a level of
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open jobs that we've never seen before. And I just
find it to be utterly fascinating to think. Now we
partly it's what we've incentivized people. First of all, we
told them, hey, go home, you can't work. Then we
told them, hey, we'll pay you a lot of money
not to work, all the while terrifying a huge percentage
(17:28):
of people that were never at risk that they were
going to die if they went to work. And now
suddenly we're telling everybody, Hey, go back to work. But
all of the incentives that we've provided them has basically
let people kick back on their couch, eat cheetos and
watch Netflix. Yeah, nobody who was, you know, under the
age of sixty and didn't have specific health concern should
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have ever been told really, maybe beyond the first couple
of weeks you should go home and not work. You
and I were saying, it's like April of last year,
and people were like, oh, you want everybody wanted remember this.
You and I were among the very very few. We
wanted everybody to die because we're like, guys, we just
have to face life. By the way, I got COVID,
You got COVID. You know we did face life. That's
what I'm up happening. We'll come back though, in a second.
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Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We have much to discuss, including the latest on the
COVID data, trying to look ahead. Where are we going
to be this wintertime? Where are we going to be
in the winter. That's what we're going to talk to
our friend Alex Barrenson at two o five eastern here
on the show. Alex, you know, kicked off a Twitter,
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So this is one of the few places where he
is platform to borrow a term from the left, one
of the few places where we give some amplification to
the data analysis that he does of COVID. We'll get
into all of that in a moment, but we'll talk
about criminal justice for a moment here. Well, the huge
spike in crime first and foremost that's happened as we've
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been discussing as a result of the defund the police movement,
of the rise of BLM and the riots around it,
and all that we saw starting around June of twenty twenty,
the undermining of police, but also the prosecutors' offices that
are taking a more social justice left wing Soros approved
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approach to prosecuting serious crimes. What is the result of
all of that, Well, we're seeing it play out in
major cities, places like Austin, Texas for example, Great City clan.
I are both fans of Austin, a lot of fun
to go visit, but has an all time high for
murder this year and defunded last year police by over
one hundred million dollars. Almost like there's a cause and
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effect at work. And here's just a reminder. This is
an ad that's been put out by the R and
C about what Democrats were saying on this issue. So
we've been talking about defunding the police. There's some issues
that we ask police to do, mental health issues or
policing in schools and all the rest that perhaps we
can shuffle some of that money around, suck it up.
Defunding the police has to happen. We need to defund
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the police. Mayor Eric car said he's saying take some
of the money from policing about one hundred fifty million
dollars time plot. Eric Car said he for doing what
he's done. Not only do we need to invest for
in police, but we need to completely dismantle the Minneapolis
Police Department. So many prominent Democrats said he at Nancy
Pelosi and many very prominent Democrats. Really the Democrat Party
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was behind the defund the police movement for a time,
Joe Biden specifically stood back from it a little bit,
but never called it out, never said that this was crazy,
which is what any reasonable person would do. But we
also see the decisions that are being made by their
criminal justice system and have to wonder what's going on.
I had mentioned to you earlier the week plan I
talked about a shootout with multiple people in Chicago. Yes,
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Kim Fox, the Prosecutor's office, mutual combat. I never by
the way, I worked for the NYPD for a game
of Brons, I'd never heard of the mutual combat clause
before for not prosecuting anybody. So, by the way, as
I understand it, there still hasn't been anybody charged with
an attempted murder over that one. And now we have
the school shooting that we started the show with yesterday, Clay,
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there was a school shooting, as we know, four people shot,
one of them fighting for his life. Still. An eighteen
year old, a legal adult in all fifty states, goes
into a school with a gun and at Timothy George Simpkins,
eighteen years old. This is in Arlington, Texas. He is
already he was. This is a mass shooting folks at
a school He has been released on seventy five thousand
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dollars bail. I texted a friend of mine as a
criminal defense attorney last night. Clay I said, what does
this look like to you? She responded, politics, What do
you think? It's unbelievable? Well, let me just give you
some facts here. This eighteen year old in high school
brought a forty five caliber handgun to school. Shot this
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zacaius Selby fifteen year old four times? All right, four times?
He was shot. And let me hit you with some
of the details here in terms of where he was shot.
He was shot. He's had two surgeries already. This fifteen
year old shot in his arm, leg, chest, and stomach.
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He's on a ventilator and is going to need more surgeries. Okay,
the fifteen year old who was in severe condition right now. Also,
this eighteen year old shot a teacher who was trying
to break up the fight. Okay, shot a teacher. I
want to give the teacher's name here because this part
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of the story is also crazy. Calvin Pettitt, I believe
is how you pronounce his name. A teacher who tried
to break up the fight was also wounded, and another
student was hit by a bullet. All right, So all
of these people are shot at school by an eighteen
year old and there's only a seventy five thousand dollars
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bond and this guy is already out. Fuck, this is crazy.
I mean when you look at a seventy five thousand
dollars bond, first of all, you only have to put
up a lot of time ten percent of a bond
to get out of jail. So you can shoot four
people at school, including a teacher, and get out of
jail for seventy five hundred dollars. Clay, let's understand this.
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The attorney representing him is claiming representing the shooter isn't defense.
You know, he's saying, it's quote, not a standard issue
school shooting end quote. I'm pretty sure when you go
grab a gun and you know you're not you're not
under threat, you're not defending. You go grab a gun
because you don't like someone or some people, and you
go try to murder them in school, multiple people, that
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is a school shooting. I mean that that. I'm sure.
I know that. You know, the Left says women can
get pregnant. I'm sorry, men can get women can get pregnant,
Yet men can get pre sorry about men could get pregnant.
I know there's some areas where they completely divert from reality,
but I'm still I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, fight
on this one. It is a school shooting when you
shoot four people in school. Also, it's a big deal
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to have a gun on a school campus. And it's
not as if we're talking even about an accidental discharge shooting,
which would still be pretty serious, because again it's at school.
He shot one of his classmates four times by play
four bribes. The part of this that I think the
Left hasn't really gotten as outrage about this guy brought
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a gun into a gun free zone. Did he not know?
Did he not see the rules that this was prohibit
I mean, this is why so much of the discourse
around how we stop violence like this is rooted in
the lack of liberal logic, the lack of understanding of
human nature, the fact that criminals do not care when
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you add yet another rule or regulation. I mean, you know,
all schools are gun free zones. Yes, as if any
school shooter in history has been like ooh, I don't know. Yeah,
there's a saying that says not a gun freeze. Now
you know, no guns allowed, and the fact that this
guy's out on Bill. But I just think it's so
interesting because of the profile of the shooter and because
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of this backstory there was a fight they are treating
this if let's just say that he was Let's say
he was a quiet kid, Clay, he was a quiet kid,
and they're having this fight before he just went in
and shot four people. They'd have him in like a
supermax facility awaiting trial right now. They'd have him in
solitary if so, eighteen buck, he's not even a kid,
like he's an adult for purposes of being charged with
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a crime. And he shot it not only one of
his classmates who was fifteen four different times. He also
shot a teacher accidental or not. It's kind of a
big deal to shoot a teacher. Yeah, I mean, I also,
I haven't really seen much of an explanation. He hit
four people, So is he just he was so reckless
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that he was trying to obviously kill the one person
that he claims bullied him and hit three other innocent
people in the process. I mean that that alone is
grounds you would think. I mean, this kid is kid,
he's an adult, reckless beyond words. But did he try
to kill more than one person? I mean, what does
it take for you to be held until trial? If
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not something like this, you wonder or I mean, just
think about it. In the context of the quote unquote insurrection, buck,
we got people in solitary confinement for walking into the capitol.
We got a school kid who's eighteen years old that's
shot one guy four times, as well as a teacher,
and nothing happens exactly right. That's a that's a perfect
example of how the political narrative here is driving criminal
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justice prosecutions in ways that are clearly unjust and politicized.
It's about narrative, and that's that's an excellent example. It's
also why I thought it's so interesting that you know,
Kim Kim Fox, a prosecutor in Chicago who just she likes,
you know, her family has ties to she likes Jesse Smollette,
and so he was able to get away with that. Hole. Now,
obviously that's a much less seriousness in these issues we're
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talking about here. But she lets him get away with that,
and then when it comes time to prosecute people who
are shooting each other like they're at the you know,
the Okay Corral and Broad Daylight. It's, oh, we we're
not going to bring any charges because we don't know
who started it. These are the people who were in
charge of dispensing justice. They're entrusted by the public to
do this. These are the district attorneys. Whether it's whether
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it's Chessa Budan in San Francisco or Krasner in Philadelphia
or obviously Fox in Chicago. You can't trust these people
to be making these decisions. And also, I mean, who
even let this get past seventy five hundred dollars for
a school shooter and he's back on the streets. It's crazy.
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the torch of wisdom even to this very day. Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network, Welcome back
in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We're talking about the extreme political
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nature of prosecution in the modern era in which we
live and how it can lead to wildly divergent outcomes
that are in no way connected to justice. We've got
a caller who says he was in the Capitol on
January sixth, and we're talking about the difference between the
eighteen year old inside of a school in Texas who
shot four different people allegedly and is out on a
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seventy five thousand dollars bond. And how did that compare
to what happened to you, our caller from California. Well,
let me tell you this is really wild. First off,
they rated my house. There was thirty people, thirty cops
that raided in my house. They arrested me at me
and my son had just got done playing golf. I
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was arrested at gunpoint, where we both had laser dots
all over us. I got thrown in jail for nine days.
I thought they were going to extradite me back to Washington, DC.
None of my charges are violent charges at all. They're
all picketing or attempting to remain in a building, which
I wasn't. I was in the building for under three minutes,
to be honest with you, and so I just wanted sorry, sorry,
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I want to cut you off. So you were there
on January sixth. You're saying you walked in. You just
kind of followed the mass of people into the United
States Capital for three minutes. How did they track you down? Well,
I'm six foot four, two hundred and some uptown man
with a huge beard on my face, and it was
pretty easy to identify me. But when I was actually
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forced in, it was a stampede of people that ran in.
And the very first thing I did I went in
to an officer and nic today, I'm not part of this.
What do I need to do? I was told to
go against the wall with my hands up and they
would help me get outside, which they did, and it
took about three and a half minutes. And once I
was outside, four of the officers one got thrown on
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the ground by his own fellow officers because the force
of the push, and three of them retreated behind a
door and they asked me to help them get back inside.
So I held the door open to help them to
protect them from the people behind me because it was
kind of wild on the side that I was on,
and I and I helped the officers get get back inside.
So I got I got I got a charge that
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was impeding an officer during an investigation going inside of
a capitol building or a restricted area. I got UM.
I got a charge of um of disrupting a political
thing where the vice president was, I got all. I
got six charges, very common charges that many other people got,
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and they almost didn't let me out of jail when
they found out I had a property with a ton
of equity in I was able to put my house up.
I have a two hundred thousand dollars property bond on
my home and that was the only way that I
was able to get out. And none of my charges
are violent, that even though I didn't do anything violent.
And I just still can't believe that the FBI rated
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my home and the search form they were coming for
a they came for a Trump had a T shirt
and a jacket. Wait, John, John, it's buckets. So it
was actually the FBI that came busting into your home
over this. Yes, the FIST. They might have thought that
you were at a at a parent teacher meeting and
said something mean to the teachers. By the way, because
we know the DJ these days is very interested in that.
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But John, I, where are you now? In the adjudication process, like,
where are I have you? Have you? Are you still
facing the charges? Do you know where this is going?
I'm still facing the charges. A matter of fact, I
was recently, and I don't want to give too much
information because I don't want the FBI to identify who
I am. Obviously my name is John Doe, but mine
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is more recent. I was one of at the later
end of the people arrested. And what are you facing?
How much time could you get? Well, the longest charge
carries twenty years. Wow, you were in the capital for
three minutes. The FBI rated your home. You had to
post a two hundred thousand dollars bond to get out
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of jail after spending you said nine days in jail.
That's correct, and you did. And and I'm lucky because
I'm out. How many guys are still in because they
don't have the assets to be able to post the
bail and get out. They've but they're being held in solitary.
Clan I were just talking about this in the break.
There are still non violent, non violent participants in January
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six who are being held in solitary have been held
for many months. John. We know obviously it's not your name.
You have a good warrior, John, Man, I have one
of the best around. Man. I really loved Amanda Pieces.
And he tells me over and over, Jinny said. He says, John,
don't worry at all. He said this, we're gonna, We're
gonna be this, and I believe we are the stating
about it. It's already cost me forty thousand dollars in
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attorney piece. Yeah, lawyers are very very expensive. Look, John,
we appreciate you calling in and giving us of you
into what it's really like here and what the criminal
justice systems like. And I know, God bless and stay safe.
Thank you for being here on the show. Clay, I
mean you just you said it right before. You've got people.
So you're you're part of a You're part of a
group that breaks into a building. There are hundreds of people.
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It's a big protest. Well, I know, people's blood is
kind of running hot at the times. A lot of
stuff going on. You step aside, you say, according to
what you know. We can only take him at his word.
We don't know, but he speaks a law enforced me
and he says, I don't want to be a part
of this stuff. And you face. I mean, does anyone
think that the guy, you know, how long is this
individual who just shot four people? How long is he
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held twenty four hours before they let him go on bail? Interesting,
isn't it. I'm so fired up about this. This is
me as a lawyer speaking fuck because everyone has to
have faith in our justice system in order for the
justice system to work. Really, I mean, that is the essence.
And I'm not saying we get everything perfect, because we don't.
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No system created by man is going to be perfect.
But the idea that we could have all of these
people facing the charges that they are for nonviolent for
the most part, breaking and entering, trespassing, whatever you want
to say of the United States capital, and simultaneously we
can have a violent school shooter. I mean, compare the
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difference between the treatment of those two. It's all politives.
This is the result of a continuous, coordinated narrative from
the Democrat apparatus of the white supremacist threat to America,
the insurrectionist threat, the Russia collusion threat. These incredibly either
exaggerated or fabricated narratives of terror that they use then
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create a perception among people that they can't treat their
fellow America. It's fairly because our democracy is at risk.
How many times you hear them say a threat to
our democracy when someone is you know, January was there
protesting on January six? Whatever it may be, We'll come back.
We got more on COVID. We got some the Dave
Chappelle special. Clay and I both watched it. The the
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left is very upset about that. We got a stacked
show for you. We're gonna be back with you in
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