On this episode of The Karol Markowicz Show, Karol interviews Kate Johnson, a former ER nurse and health advocate. Kate shares her journey from frontline healthcare to empowering families—especially moms—to take charge of their health through simple habits like daily movement, real food, and prioritizing sleep. The discussion highlights how government policy and political trends shape health choices, the dangers of fentanyl, and the need to reject medication normalization among youth. Kate emphasizes personal responsibility, faith, and the importance of parents modeling healthy behaviors, offering practical, conservative advice for building strong, resilient families. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Wednesday & Friday.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, and welcome back to the Karl Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Kate Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Kate is a.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Maha Mama for former emergency room nurse, creator of the
fifteen Minute movement, and founder of the one hundred Day Challenge.
Find her on Instagram at nurse Kate Johnson. So nice
to have you on, Kate.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Thank you for having me. It's nice to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So how did you get your start in what you do?
I guess I like your account so much. I think
that it's very real and very down to earth, but
obviously there's a political element to it, which we'll get into.
But what was your kind of opening to this?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So my background is I'm a critical care nurse. I
worked in Washington, d C. For seven years bedside, just
saw the state of the health of the average American
and it realized that that wasn't where we were going
to really impact people's health. That's like the last stage
and I wanted to be on the front end of that.
(01:04):
So I went to work for Blue Cross Shield doing
preventative health, kind of on the policy side of preventative
health initiatives that were sort of tied to the Obamacare
era work and realized that that wasn't really where we
were going to do a lot of change because the
incentive structures there are just while like largely good intentioned,
(01:25):
the execution.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Is always poor.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I went and did consulting work for the VA,
and that was really saw like the nuts and bolts
of how policy is implemented and the forces that are
at play within that policy work, and how the policy
really does make a difference when it comes to people's
(01:49):
health day in and day out. So I sort of
stepped back and realized that what people really need to
know is how to take control of their own health.
That these third party mentations of healthcare systems are great,
but the real foundation is what people do for themselves
day in and day out.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And so I decided that my.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Mission was going to be to help people live the
healthiest lives that they could live within the confines of
their own home and their own body.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So you could be telling this to people in a
very obviously a political way, and you could also be
just generally an a political figure. You could be posting
on Instagram about your life or about what you're cooking
to eat, or any let I always wonder the people
who kind of don't have to get the slings and
(02:41):
arrows of being in politics, but do it anyway. Did
you feel like you had to.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So there's two elements to that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
First, I kind of am connected to it because my husband,
you know, is in a political space, and so people
automatically assume that I have a political position, and so
there tends to be interested in that in the social
media space. And my account is very real. It's what
I do, It's how I live my life. So I
(03:08):
take people along for my real life, and the aspect
of that is political because of you know, the work
my husband does.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
But also what I realized was that the policy and.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I know your husband is Benny Johnson, he has a
show and he's quite quite big on the interwebs.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is twenty million followers or something insane.
So there is that dynamic, you know, within within our lives.
Funny enough, we hardly ever talk about politics at home, but.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's the right way to do it. Yeah, there's enough
of it already.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There is a There's a really big piece that I
don't think people really understand unless they've worked in it,
and that is how much policy and politics affects they
that you make. It affects the messaging that you see.
It impacts the foundational understanding that you have of how
to approach different food choices, how you should think about exercise, sunshine, sunscreen.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
All of these things actually called a.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Political component because they are either regulated by the government
or the government is incentivized to participate in them because
they are payers in the system. So we can't really
separate those forces, and so I do think it is
important that people understand what mechanisms work inside of the
(04:36):
political space to drive the choices that they're making.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And so that's more the angle I try to come from,
and not necessarily like specific to politicians, but more like
the right political forces.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
What's one thing that people can do on an individual
level to improve their health.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The first thing I think everybody needs to do is
understand that your health is your responsibil It's not the
government's responsibility, or doctor's responsibility or the hospitals. It's up
to you. And when you start to really take ownership
of your health, then you'll start to look for ways
that you can make changes to live a healthier lifestyle.
(05:16):
The second easiest thing that is within almost everybody's grasp
is to just go outside and walk, and go outside
and move in whatever way you can do that, getting outside,
touching grass, literally touching grass, yeap, like, these things are
hugely impactful for your health, and even in small amounts.
That's where the fifteen minute movement came from. Just go
(05:38):
outside and move for fifteen minutes, and that small thing
can be the catalyst that can change your whole life.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
On my other show, I have another show with Mary
Catherine Ham called Normally, and somebody asked us what conspiracy
theories we believe in, and I said that, you know,
I don't even think this is a conspiracy theory anymore.
But for a long time I used to refer to
myself as a suntruther, that the sun was actually very
good for you, and we were being told frequently that
it's not you mentioned sunshine, you know, being good. Has
(06:10):
that changed? Is that no longer the line, or is
it just people understand that to be not true, that
that the sun is bad for us.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think people have realized that that was bad advice.
I think there is a growing movement of people who
are understanding that no actually, like you know, in order
to have that.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Could that be bad, like.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Energized the entire world, like we are somehow not supposed
to participate in getting sunshine right now. You know, there's
there's some really big voices that have come out, like
Andrew Huberman has talked endlessly about the importance of getting
sunshine and just a few minutes in the morning and
in the evening and how that will help set your
circadian rhythm and you'll help you'll sleep so much better,
(06:54):
and your hormones will be impacted by getting sunshine. So
the messaging is really starting to get out and people
are experiencing it for themselves more than anything and realizing like, oh, yeah,
this is true.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, so other things. Protein.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It used to be the serpiracy theory that that we
shouldn't need too much protein. Protein would hurt your kidneys,
you should really limit that. We also, you know, the
entire food pyramid is like conspiracy theory that people would
be like, oh, I don't think we should be eating
like the foundation of our diet should be sugar and grains.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And everybody's like, oh yeah, no, that's that was not adlace.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But you were considered like a conspiracy theorists if you
thought that in the past, Yeah, for sure, Like vaccines
used to be considered very It used to be very
conspiratorial to say that vaccines caused harm in any capacity,
And now people are understanding that they're, like with everything,
there are risks and there are benefits, and so we
(07:55):
should be able to discuss the risks and the benefits.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're going to take a quick break and be right
back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. What do you see
as like the next protein thing that we're going to
wake up and realize that it's actually not just not
bad for us, but it's good for us.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I think supplementation is something that in like the western
medical space has been sort of viewed as almost bad
for you that at best you're just going to you know,
discrete it, discard it, and at worse, like it could
be harmful to take a daily multivitamin or to add
in you know, specific supplementation. So I think that that
(08:37):
was something that we used to the view as like
potentially harmful, but a lot of people have seen the
benefits of taking really good quality supplements and much that
can improve your overall health because unfortunately our soils are depleted,
we don't have the same access to the same quality
micronutrients in our food system, and we need to Most
(09:00):
people need to supplement and that your doctor would have
told you like, you don't need to do that, but
we now understand most people actually do.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What are your listeners or your viewers mostly write to
you about what's the thing that kind of what's the
top topic for them.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
My audience tends to be moms in their twenties to forties,
so a lot of them really want to know how
they can implement healthy habits into their family, so how
they themselves can adopt them and then also make them
accessible to their children.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
People women are really worried about that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
When RFK Junior joined Trump's ticket, knew I knew that
Trump was going to win because the momentum among moms
is really strong and it's it's a very it's not
given the respect that it's due, I think in politics,
but that the Maha mom vote is what won the
(10:03):
election for Trump by the.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Data, I believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I saw that in a very normy way where moms
who were not into politics were suddenly looking at politics
for the first time and saying like this speaks to me,
this healthy message really does resonate. So what do you
tell those people who are write in about how to
have healthier habits and how to instill that in their kids.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I always bring it back to the basics. You've got
to keep everything simple every so much of this stuff
gets very complicated very quickly. You know, there is a
lot of nuance, there's a lot of science. You can
get a study to say anything you wanted to say,
So you just take it, bring it back to the basics.
You need to eat real food right like things out
of packages bags should be treats. Most of the things
(10:54):
we eat should be single ingredient items, an egg, I rob.
We should have daily movement as a non negotiable for
the entire family, So everybody needs to be up and
out moving at some point throughout the day. Younger kids
need to move a lot. And then we have to
prioritize sleep for the entire family. So I'm I'm in
(11:14):
a sleep purgatory at the moment. Was I have a
twenty one month old and a five month old and
not sleeping.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Wow, Yeah, that's that's tough.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But you know, we still work on those foundational habits.
We still try our best to get the best quality
sleep that we can. You know, my husband and I
go to bed at nine thirty, Like we make it
a routine to have good sleep, and then you know,
you survive the periods in life where you don't get crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But a lot of people don't know. You know, turn
your TV.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Off, you need to go to bed, Like, don't doom
scroll until then.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
None, Like put down that bright object that has all
the information in the whole world, and don't point it
at your face. Bet yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
There's always another Netflix show to watch.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Put it all down, set a bedtime, go to bed,
and try to be consistent with your children as well.
So screen time should say policies, no screens in bed.
You know, you should have blackout curtains. You should make
an environment that's conducive to your kids sleeping, conducive to
you sleeping, And these should be things we work at
when we invest in, like these things really matter for
(12:29):
our health.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I feel like there's been a shift in the sleep
thing too, actually talking about like that, not conspiracy wise,
but that it used to be a point of pride
if you said, like, oh, I only sleep three hours
a night. Now everyone's like, why would you only sleep
three hours a night. That's crazy. Why would you do
that to yourself?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
That the hustle, like, the hustle culture.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think, especially among women, is really starting to take
a hit, like they're really starting to place that hustle
culture is not good for women. And you can't do
it all at the same time. You can do it all,
but not at the.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Same time exactly, and there has.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
To be periods where you rest and you get in
touch with that kind of feminine energy of time to
rest and recover.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
What do you worry about fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh, my gosh, really? Yeah, the number one thing I
most like. That is always in my head, even though
my kids are so little. My oldest is going to
be five, five, three, twenty one months, and five months.
But ventinyl scares me as a critical care nurse, Like
we used fentanyl a lot in the hospital setting, and
(13:39):
even in that setting in a super controlled environment where
your patient's on a ventilator, it's scary there. Yeah, the
access to it out in the wild is scary to me.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
What could parents do to protect their kids from it?
Is there anything anybody can do?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I think you really have to.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
There's a couple of things that I've implemented in in
our family, and you know, we'll we hope and pray
that it will work. I think we have to stop
making it seem so normal to take so many medications.
So a lot of these kids get in trouble because
they're taking something that they think is an authentic like
(14:18):
prozac or prescription medication that's been laced with fentanyl. But
it's become very normal to just take a pill, so
you can pop a pill. So in our house, taking
a medication is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
We don't just put things into our bodies.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And I'm hoping that that maybe will work, that they'll
understand that we we can't just take something that somebody
gave us and starting those conversations now so that way
when they're fixing, that's like in their head.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So maybe this is a stupid question, but how does
prozac get laced with fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know, they make counterfeit things, and so these kids
buy like they're buying things from some guy and who
knows where that guy got whatever he was Okay, their
their counterfeit. They're not actually the real deal, but they
think that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's something that's mostly benign.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But they you know, they want to have an adderall
so that they can get through their tests, and so
you know, somebody who will sell them a few adderall. Uh,
and they're not they're not authentic and they've been created
in some lab somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I see, Yeah, And I always kind of just wondered
what that meant, but I guess I see now it's
a it's a counterfeit product.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah. The kids don't know that it's counterfeit.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Right, of course, the kids think that they're just buying
like a study aid, which you know, it's crazy in
and of itself. I'm like, I'd rather my kids get
worse grades than they need a study aid that they
buy like from some kid on their you know, dorm floor.
It's just that the normalization of that has.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
To stop, yes, And I think that that's part, like,
that's part of where we have a responsibility as the parents,
is to not make it normal to take to be
dependent on medications. But so many adults are dependent, and
so they being their parents, see it. Yeah, and so.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Oh it helps mom helps dad.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So I'll just take you know, I'll take one, not
knowing that mom and dad is from a doctor, right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Right, Yeah, A little different what advice would you give
your sixteen year old self if you had to do
it all over again.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Don't worry so much?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Did you worry a lot?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I was always a.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Big warrior, And it's the one thing I will tell
my kids forever too. It's like, just if you're going
to be okay, if you work hard and you you
put your head down, you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
But I was a worrier.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, what did you worry about?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Everything? Like would I find a good husband? What would
my career look like?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Would I be happy? You know, just kind of like
the existential things in life.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
When I was bad, aide felt really big and very unattainable.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And couldn't really see the path.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And so uh I I hear that feedback actually from
my my younger audience that they worry about all that,
and so I think, like, don't don't worry so much,
just keep making the next right choice.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Last year on my show, one of my three questions
that I asked all my guests was do you think
you've made it? And I want to ask you, do
you feel like you've made it? Did you get over
all of those things? Did you did you succeed at
the things you were worrying about.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I did I have.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I have a great marriage, I have four beautiful kids.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I've done everything in my career that I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now I get to be home raising my kids, like
that's my primary focus. But I still get to have
this really cool ability to impact people in the way
that I'm passionate about with health and wellness. So to me,
it feels like I'm where God has called me to
be at this season, and so we'll see what the
(18:19):
next season looks like. But for today, I feel like
I've made it for today.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I love that I've loved this conversation. End us here
with your best tip for my listeners on how they
can improve their lives.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I think the best thing that anybody can do to
have the best life possible is to trust and believe
in God and know that he is the guiding force
in your life.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And when you are.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Able to surrender to Him, then everything else will kind
of fall in place.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's beautiful. Check her out on Instagram at nurse Kate Johnson.
Thank you so much, Kate for coming on.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Thanks for having me
Hi, and welcome back to the Karl Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Kate Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Kate is a.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Maha Mama for former emergency room nurse, creator of the
fifteen Minute movement, and founder of the one hundred Day Challenge.
Find her on Instagram at nurse Kate Johnson. So nice
to have you on, Kate.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Thank you for having me. It's nice to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
So how did you get your start in what you do?
I guess I like your account so much. I think
that it's very real and very down to earth, but
obviously there's a political element to it, which we'll get into.
But what was your kind of opening to this?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So my background is I'm a critical care nurse. I
worked in Washington, d C. For seven years bedside, just
saw the state of the health of the average American
and it realized that that wasn't where we were going
to really impact people's health. That's like the last stage
and I wanted to be on the front end of that.
(01:04):
So I went to work for Blue Cross Shield doing
preventative health, kind of on the policy side of preventative
health initiatives that were sort of tied to the Obamacare
era work and realized that that wasn't really where we
were going to do a lot of change because the
incentive structures there are just while like largely good intentioned,
(01:25):
the execution.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Is always poor.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I went and did consulting work for the VA,
and that was really saw like the nuts and bolts
of how policy is implemented and the forces that are
at play within that policy work, and how the policy
really does make a difference when it comes to people's
(01:49):
health day in and day out. So I sort of
stepped back and realized that what people really need to
know is how to take control of their own health.
That these third party mentations of healthcare systems are great,
but the real foundation is what people do for themselves
day in and day out.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And so I decided that my.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Mission was going to be to help people live the
healthiest lives that they could live within the confines of
their own home and their own body.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So you could be telling this to people in a
very obviously a political way, and you could also be
just generally an a political figure. You could be posting
on Instagram about your life or about what you're cooking
to eat, or any let I always wonder the people
who kind of don't have to get the slings and
(02:41):
arrows of being in politics, but do it anyway. Did
you feel like you had to.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So there's two elements to that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
First, I kind of am connected to it because my husband,
you know, is in a political space, and so people
automatically assume that I have a political position, and so
there tends to be interested in that in the social
media space. And my account is very real. It's what
I do, It's how I live my life. So I
(03:08):
take people along for my real life, and the aspect
of that is political because of you know, the work
my husband does.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
But also what I realized was that the policy and.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I know your husband is Benny Johnson, he has a
show and he's quite quite big on the interwebs.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is twenty million followers or something insane.
So there is that dynamic, you know, within within our lives.
Funny enough, we hardly ever talk about politics at home, but.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That's the right way to do it. Yeah, there's enough
of it already.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There is a There's a really big piece that I
don't think people really understand unless they've worked in it,
and that is how much policy and politics affects they
that you make. It affects the messaging that you see.
It impacts the foundational understanding that you have of how
to approach different food choices, how you should think about exercise, sunshine, sunscreen.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
All of these things actually called a.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Political component because they are either regulated by the government
or the government is incentivized to participate in them because
they are payers in the system. So we can't really
separate those forces, and so I do think it is
important that people understand what mechanisms work inside of the
(04:36):
political space to drive the choices that they're making.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And so that's more the angle I try to come from,
and not necessarily like specific to politicians, but more like
the right political forces.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
What's one thing that people can do on an individual
level to improve their health.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The first thing I think everybody needs to do is
understand that your health is your responsibil It's not the
government's responsibility, or doctor's responsibility or the hospitals. It's up
to you. And when you start to really take ownership
of your health, then you'll start to look for ways
that you can make changes to live a healthier lifestyle.
(05:16):
The second easiest thing that is within almost everybody's grasp
is to just go outside and walk, and go outside
and move in whatever way you can do that, getting outside,
touching grass, literally touching grass, yeap, like, these things are
hugely impactful for your health, and even in small amounts.
That's where the fifteen minute movement came from. Just go
(05:38):
outside and move for fifteen minutes, and that small thing
can be the catalyst that can change your whole life.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
On my other show, I have another show with Mary
Catherine Ham called Normally, and somebody asked us what conspiracy
theories we believe in, and I said that, you know,
I don't even think this is a conspiracy theory anymore.
But for a long time I used to refer to
myself as a suntruther, that the sun was actually very
good for you, and we were being told frequently that
it's not you mentioned sunshine, you know, being good. Has
(06:10):
that changed? Is that no longer the line, or is
it just people understand that to be not true, that
that the sun is bad for us.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I think people have realized that that was bad advice.
I think there is a growing movement of people who
are understanding that no actually, like you know, in order
to have that.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Could that be bad, like.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Energized the entire world, like we are somehow not supposed
to participate in getting sunshine right now. You know, there's
there's some really big voices that have come out, like
Andrew Huberman has talked endlessly about the importance of getting
sunshine and just a few minutes in the morning and
in the evening and how that will help set your
circadian rhythm and you'll help you'll sleep so much better,
(06:54):
and your hormones will be impacted by getting sunshine. So
the messaging is really starting to get out and people
are experiencing it for themselves more than anything and realizing like, oh, yeah,
this is true.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, so other things. Protein.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It used to be the serpiracy theory that that we
shouldn't need too much protein. Protein would hurt your kidneys,
you should really limit that. We also, you know, the
entire food pyramid is like conspiracy theory that people would
be like, oh, I don't think we should be eating
like the foundation of our diet should be sugar and grains.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And everybody's like, oh yeah, no, that's that was not adlace.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But you were considered like a conspiracy theorists if you
thought that in the past, Yeah, for sure, Like vaccines
used to be considered very It used to be very
conspiratorial to say that vaccines caused harm in any capacity,
And now people are understanding that they're, like with everything,
there are risks and there are benefits, and so we
(07:55):
should be able to discuss the risks and the benefits.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're going to take a quick break and be right
back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. What do you see
as like the next protein thing that we're going to
wake up and realize that it's actually not just not
bad for us, but it's good for us.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I think supplementation is something that in like the western
medical space has been sort of viewed as almost bad
for you that at best you're just going to you know,
discrete it, discard it, and at worse, like it could
be harmful to take a daily multivitamin or to add
in you know, specific supplementation. So I think that that
(08:37):
was something that we used to the view as like
potentially harmful, but a lot of people have seen the
benefits of taking really good quality supplements and much that
can improve your overall health because unfortunately our soils are depleted,
we don't have the same access to the same quality
micronutrients in our food system, and we need to Most
(09:00):
people need to supplement and that your doctor would have
told you like, you don't need to do that, but
we now understand most people actually do.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What are your listeners or your viewers mostly write to
you about what's the thing that kind of what's the
top topic for them.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
My audience tends to be moms in their twenties to forties,
so a lot of them really want to know how
they can implement healthy habits into their family, so how
they themselves can adopt them and then also make them
accessible to their children.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
People women are really worried about that.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
When RFK Junior joined Trump's ticket, knew I knew that
Trump was going to win because the momentum among moms
is really strong and it's it's a very it's not
given the respect that it's due, I think in politics,
but that the Maha mom vote is what won the
(10:03):
election for Trump by the.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Data, I believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I saw that in a very normy way where moms
who were not into politics were suddenly looking at politics
for the first time and saying like this speaks to me,
this healthy message really does resonate. So what do you
tell those people who are write in about how to
have healthier habits and how to instill that in their kids.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I always bring it back to the basics. You've got
to keep everything simple every so much of this stuff
gets very complicated very quickly. You know, there is a
lot of nuance, there's a lot of science. You can
get a study to say anything you wanted to say,
So you just take it, bring it back to the basics.
You need to eat real food right like things out
of packages bags should be treats. Most of the things
(10:54):
we eat should be single ingredient items, an egg, I rob.
We should have daily movement as a non negotiable for
the entire family, So everybody needs to be up and
out moving at some point throughout the day. Younger kids
need to move a lot. And then we have to
prioritize sleep for the entire family. So I'm I'm in
(11:14):
a sleep purgatory at the moment. Was I have a
twenty one month old and a five month old and
not sleeping.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Wow, Yeah, that's that's tough.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
But you know, we still work on those foundational habits.
We still try our best to get the best quality
sleep that we can. You know, my husband and I
go to bed at nine thirty, Like we make it
a routine to have good sleep, and then you know,
you survive the periods in life where you don't get crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But a lot of people don't know. You know, turn
your TV.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Off, you need to go to bed, Like, don't doom
scroll until then.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
None, Like put down that bright object that has all
the information in the whole world, and don't point it
at your face. Bet yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
There's always another Netflix show to watch.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Put it all down, set a bedtime, go to bed,
and try to be consistent with your children as well.
So screen time should say policies, no screens in bed.
You know, you should have blackout curtains. You should make
an environment that's conducive to your kids sleeping, conducive to
you sleeping, And these should be things we work at
when we invest in, like these things really matter for
(12:29):
our health.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I feel like there's been a shift in the sleep
thing too, actually talking about like that, not conspiracy wise,
but that it used to be a point of pride
if you said, like, oh, I only sleep three hours
a night. Now everyone's like, why would you only sleep
three hours a night. That's crazy. Why would you do
that to yourself?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
That the hustle, like, the hustle culture.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think, especially among women, is really starting to take
a hit, like they're really starting to place that hustle
culture is not good for women. And you can't do
it all at the same time. You can do it all,
but not at the.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Same time exactly, and there has.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
To be periods where you rest and you get in
touch with that kind of feminine energy of time to
rest and recover.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
What do you worry about fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh, my gosh, really? Yeah, the number one thing I
most like. That is always in my head, even though
my kids are so little. My oldest is going to
be five, five, three, twenty one months, and five months.
But ventinyl scares me as a critical care nurse, Like
we used fentanyl a lot in the hospital setting, and
(13:39):
even in that setting in a super controlled environment where
your patient's on a ventilator, it's scary there. Yeah, the
access to it out in the wild is scary to me.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
What could parents do to protect their kids from it?
Is there anything anybody can do?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I think you really have to.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
There's a couple of things that I've implemented in in
our family, and you know, we'll we hope and pray
that it will work. I think we have to stop
making it seem so normal to take so many medications.
So a lot of these kids get in trouble because
they're taking something that they think is an authentic like
(14:18):
prozac or prescription medication that's been laced with fentanyl. But
it's become very normal to just take a pill, so
you can pop a pill. So in our house, taking
a medication is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
We don't just put things into our bodies.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And I'm hoping that that maybe will work, that they'll
understand that we we can't just take something that somebody
gave us and starting those conversations now so that way
when they're fixing, that's like in their head.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So maybe this is a stupid question, but how does
prozac get laced with fentanyl?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know, they make counterfeit things, and so these kids
buy like they're buying things from some guy and who
knows where that guy got whatever he was Okay, their
their counterfeit. They're not actually the real deal, but they
think that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's something that's mostly benign.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But they you know, they want to have an adderall
so that they can get through their tests, and so
you know, somebody who will sell them a few adderall. Uh,
and they're not they're not authentic and they've been created
in some lab somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I see, Yeah, And I always kind of just wondered
what that meant, but I guess I see now it's
a it's a counterfeit product.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah. The kids don't know that it's counterfeit.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Right, of course, the kids think that they're just buying
like a study aid, which you know, it's crazy in
and of itself. I'm like, I'd rather my kids get
worse grades than they need a study aid that they
buy like from some kid on their you know, dorm floor.
It's just that the normalization of that has.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
To stop, yes, And I think that that's part, like,
that's part of where we have a responsibility as the parents,
is to not make it normal to take to be
dependent on medications. But so many adults are dependent, and
so they being their parents, see it. Yeah, and so.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Oh it helps mom helps dad.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So I'll just take you know, I'll take one, not
knowing that mom and dad is from a doctor, right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Right, Yeah, A little different what advice would you give
your sixteen year old self if you had to do
it all over again.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Don't worry so much?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Did you worry a lot?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I was always a.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Big warrior, And it's the one thing I will tell
my kids forever too. It's like, just if you're going
to be okay, if you work hard and you you
put your head down, you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
But I was a worrier.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, what did you worry about?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Everything? Like would I find a good husband? What would
my career look like?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Would I be happy? You know, just kind of like
the existential things in life.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
When I was bad, aide felt really big and very unattainable.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And couldn't really see the path.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And so uh I I hear that feedback actually from
my my younger audience that they worry about all that,
and so I think, like, don't don't worry so much,
just keep making the next right choice.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Last year on my show, one of my three questions
that I asked all my guests was do you think
you've made it? And I want to ask you, do
you feel like you've made it? Did you get over
all of those things? Did you did you succeed at
the things you were worrying about.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I did I have.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I have a great marriage, I have four beautiful kids.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I've done everything in my career that I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now I get to be home raising my kids, like
that's my primary focus. But I still get to have
this really cool ability to impact people in the way
that I'm passionate about with health and wellness. So to me,
it feels like I'm where God has called me to
be at this season, and so we'll see what the
(18:19):
next season looks like. But for today, I feel like
I've made it for today.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I love that I've loved this conversation. End us here
with your best tip for my listeners on how they
can improve their lives.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I think the best thing that anybody can do to
have the best life possible is to trust and believe
in God and know that he is the guiding force
in your life.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
And when you are.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Able to surrender to Him, then everything else will kind
of fall in place.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's beautiful. Check her out on Instagram at nurse Kate Johnson.
Thank you so much, Kate for coming on.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Thanks for having me
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