July 16, 2025 • 26 mins
In this episode, Jill Savage shares her journey from sports journalism to political reporting, discussing the challenges and intricacies of investigative journalism. She delves into her recent work on Congressman Cory Mills, revealing the complexities of political narratives and the importance of accountability in journalism. Jill emphasizes the need for integrity in reporting, especially within the political landscape, and offers insights into her passion for uncovering the truth. The discussion also touches on the evolving nature of sports journalism and the impact of political bias in media.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, and welcome back to Carol mark Wood Show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Jill Savage. Jill is host of
the Mandate on Blaize TV and she's working on a
series of stories on Coreymills on Blaze dot com. Hi Jill,
so nice to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, Carol, thanks so much for reaching out to do this.
I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm really excited to learn more about you. I feel
like you are a wonderful reporter, and I don't feel
like I know a lot about your history through your writing,
Like I've read a lot of your stuff. So how
did you get your start?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I grew up in Iowa, right, so it was the
first of the nation caucus state. But also like Iowa
basketball was like the first thing that I ever loved
in So I grew up. I always say, like, sitting
next to my dad, whatever he likes, I like. So
that was like the sports history.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I love that. Yeah, So I knew that from an
early age.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I would say things on watching games before the announcers
would say them on TV.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Wow, I'm like, this is so easy. This is totally
what I'm going to do in junior high I was like,
this is it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And then like as I got through and got a
little bit older in high school, I was like, well,
I still want to do the political stuff too.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So I just kind of like meshed together the.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Best of both worlds and spent about thirteen years as
a sports reporter, and I got to go like I
was on like the sidelines for college football and like
final fours and national playoff games, and got to work
like a World Junior Hockey tournament for NHL Network all
around like.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sweden, Finland, the Tech Republic. So it was it was
such a good.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Experience to just go out there and just like see
the world and honestly not have to pay.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
For sports because they were paying me. Yeah, and then at.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Some point, you know, I was like, Okay, well I
do actually want to do the political stuff. I actually
care about the country. So made the switch on over
because I felt like I had so.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Much talent inside you, so much more to give.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
They just like five minutes of television on the sports
broad So that's ultimately what led to the change.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I feel like there's finally on the right more sports conversations,
you know. Klay Travis, my co host, and my other
show Mary Katherine Ham, they do a lot of crossover
sports and politics. Do you find yourself doing that or
you just kind of limit to politics right now?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I think that because of the focus of our
show is Trump and the administration right now.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We do try and snake in sports, though, like wherever
it's possible.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's funny because I just saw Clay this weekend out
in Washington, DC, and I've worked with him back in
the day as well as I'm a huge fan of
what he's doing, and just the fact that there is
some pushback because I will tell you that growing up,
just knowing that I love sports and everything that was
going on, it was worse on the sports side for journalism.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
If you think that news reporters.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Are boased, well, the journalists that are over on their
sports side, they have no filters. They don't think that
they need to be impartial, like there's nothing to do.
It's stopping them. So it's actually if you think it's like,
you know, ninety percent of like news journalists, well it's
like ninety nine percent of right. Yeah, it's a bad
news situation over there. And that's why people like play
(03:14):
have had so much success because it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Was literally a wide open lane. Right.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Will Kine also is another one who I think does
a lot of sports politics crossover.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's funny because I know so many like normy guys
who you know, they're right of center, but they don't
spend their time focused on politics who used to just
have ESPN on all the time in the background. But
it just got so political that they don't anymore. I
walk into like any house that I used to walk
into and see ESPN on, it just isn't on in
(03:46):
the same way anymore. I think that they've really lost
a chunk of their audience because of that stupid politics.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and it wasn't it wasn't something that had to
happen because they went so woke, right. I think there
is a shift over to digit But I think that
ESPN had such a presence about them, such an ability
to capture an audience and keep it right. Like you
just keep your TV on ESPN all day, And that's
what I would do, like growing up, or you know,
(04:12):
like in high school whatever, like just trying to get
caught up on all the games, all the scores, everything
that was going on.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It would just be a lot of ESPN.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And now I'm like, I don't know the last time
unless I'm watching an actual game. I turned it on
and I turned it right off. I don't stick around
for anything. There's not any like must watch TV or
on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They've made it so bad. It's really too bad.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I feel like there's so much room for it to
be the place that all Americans go to to kind
of watch the same thing, which we don't really have
that much anymore. But so what do you consider your
beat at the Blaze?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So we have the Mandate, which is all about Trump
and the administration and everything that is going on. We
had a general news show before that we were doing,
but we understood that this is the time that really
matters right now to to figure out what's going on
with this administration. And even like the rejuvenation, like when
Elon Musk came on the season, young men started paying
(05:08):
attention in ways that they never did before, and we're like, okay,
there's something here.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
People want more than just what they're given.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And so that's why we we went and changed and
just went directly into Trump and the mandate and how
are we going to make sure that we are able
to implement what needs to happen at this place in time,
because this is it's the best chance that we have,
and I don't want to see us all screw this up.
I want to make sure that this is something that
are lasting. Even like during the confirmations for Trump's cabinet, right,
(05:38):
I would I would jokingly refer to it like as
a sports thing, and I was like, oh, yeah, making season.
But people were paying attention to that, like people were
talking about it in an in depth way on just
you know, like if you hear these conversations that are
going around, And I thought, man, even like ten years ago,
people wouldn't even be known who was getting confirmed, let
(05:59):
alone like following the confirmation process as it was going
on like so indepthly. So I think that's when we
were like, Okay, there's definitely something here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And how did you get into writing your series on
Corey Mills. He's a Republican in Florida, and it's not
typical for a right leaning outlet to write I wouldn't
call it an expose or would you call it that.
It is exposing some things about his life and history
that were previously unknown, and it is unusual for an
outlet like the Blaze to cover a Republican like this, right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's one of the things.
So I'll answer your first question. How did we get
to this point? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, I was out on a helicopter with him during
Hurricane Helene out in western North Carolina, and you know
Glenn that came with us. There were a bunch of
people that were out there just volunteering. We got to
spend the entire day with Corey Mills. Now, at the
end of that day, we were writing the helicopter back
to the airport and Corey was just saying a lot
of things that you know, I didn't ask him. Nobody
(07:01):
asked him about his personal life the very first day
that we met him. But it came to be that
we figured out that he was lying to us in
several like there were a couple of different lies. And
I thought, okay, well that was really interesting because nobody
pushed you on that. You weren't answering a direct question.
This is just something that you offered up to us, right,
And I thought that was so strange. So I'd gone
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through and I've probably seen him about five times at
five different events, on the last one being inauguration night,
and so then it comes out in February there was
a domestic violence allegations where his girlfriend at the time
had called the cops and said, you know here, this
is happening.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They'd both since taken us back since this has all happened,
but nonetheless she called the cops and she said, oh,
my significant other for over a year. Well, he had
lied to us and said that he was completely single.
There was absolutely no one in her.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Life, and he was very lonely. And I went, wait
a minute, you're girth with you for a year, Like,
what's going on here? So I thought, okay, if you're
lying to us about that, what else is there?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And so I just go through and honestly, as soon
as I start looking, I find a whole plethora of
things where he was married by a radical moufti, that
he was an unindicted co conspirator for the nineteen ninety
three World Trade Center bombings, and I was.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Like, oh.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And then there were stolen valor allegations, and you know,
he claimed to be an army ranger and jaysack and
a sniper and none of those were true. And the
cornerstone of him running for Congress. Was I'm a veteran,
I was blown up twice in Iraq, and I'm a
great business man and you should vote for me. Well,
in a fifteen minute phone call with our reporter Peter geedle,
(08:53):
Corey actually admitted to him that he wasn't blown up
twice in Iraq.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He got a concussion on the first one. We're like, okay, sure,
and then the second one, Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't
a part of that one, No, because I knew. I
think you could tell that we had already talked to
the guys that were there at that point in time.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But yeah, there were just so many things, and then
we'd go and jump into if we can bring in
the FBI. This is where the real fun gets started.
Is there's a potential rogue FBI agent out there that.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Was questioning our sources.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Uh. And you know this, This FBI agent reached out
to our first source back in November, on November twenty sixth,
and she was just saying, Hey, I've been referring to
your case and our sources have been trying to like
put this news out there, and like.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh, finally somebody's listening to us.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, So they turn over all the information that they
have and then eventually it switches from war. Okay, well,
we're not actually going to look into the stolen valor
allegations anymore. There's no there there. Like, it's fine enough
plausible deniability. What do you know about his business feelings?
Cory is an international arms dealer and him and his
wife had started their company right after they got married.
(10:01):
They got married until June of twenty fourteen, and within
the first year of starting their international arms company, they
get a two hundred and twenty eight million dollar contract
with Iraq that was so big that even a RAQ
was like, hold on, we're going to audit this. And
they didn't actually get it up paid out in full.
But like, I don't know, Carol, I want that kind
of luck in my life. I want this business hit
(10:24):
the jackpot right away and all that. So then with
my investigation, looking in through all these sources, right, one
of the sources says, hey, you know a ton about him.
You met him several times. I think that your information
that you have would be very valuable to this FBI agent.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And I said, sure, if you want to put me
in touch, no problem.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm here to help, right, And so twelve days later,
after she receives my contact information, she reaches back out
to the only other female source that we have and
she hadn't talked to her since December and this is
now April, and she says, hey, are you willing to
become a confidential human source and we'll pay you? And
she's like yeah, like literally anything to take this guy down.
(11:08):
And then she goes, okay, well, are you willing to
go undercover because there's another lady that we need you
to look into. Carol, I'm the only other lady that
has entered the story. Now there have been like a
lady since then, but on April eleven, I was the
only other female.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
In the entire story.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Say you know this, this is not an FBI investigation.
We know because we asked them, and they said.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Of an FBI investigation, they are completely unaware of this situation.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
As always, we will, you know, address this swiftly and appropriately.
And then they came back the next day and actually
added to the statement and said, we have made the
General Counsel aware of this situation. So if the FBI
knew if there was an open case number, if there
were three or two files on our sources, they could
have gotten to the bottom of that immediate least.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And it's been over a month and nothing yet.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Wow, have you gotten pushback for going I don't want
to say going after Republican because I feel like this
was dropped in your lap, Like you know, you investigated
something that was handed to you.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But exactly to that point, we weren't setting out to
do it, right, I just went okay, and I turned
over a rock and I said, oh, well there's.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
A lot there right now, Yeah, we need to look
into this, right, you know, just the he can claims
that he's still a Christian.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I and other sources at Blaze News have talked to
five people that Corey Mills had personally told them that
he converted to Islam back around twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right, So, like, there were just so many things that
I'm like, okay, but that doesn't add up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That doesn't add up, Right, And then when we get
to the fifteen minute phone call that Corey had with
our reporter and all we all we did, we asked
him two questions when we reached out for comment, what
is the congressman's religion and did this guy marry him
write the radical movie, did.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
He marry him? Everything? Just oh, what are you doing?
You can't do this?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
This is this is absurd, you know, like his reaction,
no straight answer. Well, so he did the radical moves,
he married him, His mother in law wanted an Iraqi
to marry them, And I said, so we start with
the move piece like there there were no like low
level of mind right, d.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like we figured this out, like there's no one else.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So that just that to me was there were more
red flags and we're still doing more investigative work on it.
The story is, I would say, far over at this point.
So yeah, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But so have you got have you gotten pushback? Like
as in why you know?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Why do this?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So some people are upset because they're like, well he's
he's great, right.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I had nothing but positive. I had nothing but positive
kind of opinions on him before reading your series.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I will say from what I found my personal observation,
if you listen to what he says, it's great, right.
If you look at what is actually happening, it tells
a different story. I have literally put up a whiteboard
before to try and organize this for some coworkers of mine,
and I said the event Corey's version the truth, because
(14:33):
you can't there are so many different lies on top
of other lies that it really is.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
This story is so in depth.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
There are so many moving pieces to this, it honestly
takes forever to like just get through like a base
layer understanding. Right, Yes, did you always that's how he's
gotten away with it so far?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Did you always want to do like investigative work?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So I think this is like the best highest use
of my brain, Like, this is exactly what I love.
And I can tell you that I will continue to
do this from this point on because I absolutely love this.
Matthew Peterson is our editor and she's here at Blaze
News and he's like joking that, like, I'm like the
(15:16):
editor of all of the investigative team right now, Yeah,
because I have just kind of de facto fell into
I'm like the leader of this team, keeping everybody up
to speed on what's happening and like any of the
news stories that are going to be coming out, and
keeping everybody, you know, all the pieces moving that need
(15:36):
to be moving.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And still hosting the show and doing all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But this does seem like you're calling like you live
up talking about this.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yes, and so because my brain care on. My brain
loves puzzles. It always has like I would like to
play like Tetris as a kid, like the Finished Puzzles
like before everybody else, and I love like I'm here
at the Blaze with Glenn Beck, right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I loved the chalk War.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I love learning and that like that has spoken to
me since back at his Fox days, and I would
just eat all of that stuff up.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
And so I'm like, okay, how do I love? I
love learning the information.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I love sharing the information and just trying to put
together a very complex puzzle. And this story has given
me all of this and so much more. And so
it's it's definitely enjoyable. Unfortunately for the congressman we are
having I'm enjoying my time right now.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I love it for you, I really I think that
that really suits you. We're going to take a quick
break and be right back on the Carol Marcoitch Show.
What did you worry about?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would go back to it always for me, it
always goes back to Ronald Reagan and a Time for
Choosing in nineteen sixty four, and it's how much of
a nerd. I am that I actually have this burned
on an actual CD that is in my car at
all times, just to case I want to pull it
out to I believe that we are the last best
hope on earth. And if you don't have us to
(17:08):
turn to, where else do you go? Right, it's the
sentencing our children take the first step into a thousand
years of darkness. I understand Donald Trump one. We are
all very excited about that, but we can't let.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It stop there.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
This is the first step, right, And I just got
back from Washington, DC late last night and talking to
people out.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
There, right, you hear about the deep state? Oh what
is this? And how bad is this? Actually? Well, it's
still really bad. You guys, Like, it doesn't matter if
our people are in the top positions and we filled
the cabinet with great people, that's excellent. That's my first step.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But you know, some of these agencies have eighty percent
bad people in them, right, And it takes so long
to figure out who's on your team, who's telling you lies,
who's going to be real with you, who's actually going
to change this stuff? And I feel like that to
me is still the absolute biggest worry of mine, because
(18:06):
I don't want people to get complacent. I want to
make sure that we have the best resources that are
at our disposal.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And that's what we try and do on mandate is just.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Say, hey, these guys are good and playing ball, and.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You know, sometimes if you need to go after.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
A fellow Republican, okay, guys, if they're not the ones
doing what we think that they should be doing what
we know they shouldn't be doing, and let's call them
out on it, right Like the Democrats aren't ever going
to go through and say, oh, you know, AOC is
a problem of Pernie Sanders, Let'sbig Warren, they're problems.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh there. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The leftist problem is they're not leftists enough, they're not crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And what for us. We have a country that we
have to manage and take care of and make sure
that we.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Can hand off a great and decent country to the
next generation. And that is, honestly, that's why I left sports,
is to go through and make sure that we can
actually have something that looks a little bit like freedom
to give to the next generation.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Do you feel hopeful about that?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It ebbs and flows depending on the day, depending on
some of the stories, right, but I hear and sometimes
it's like, oh man, that's that's an incredible win, right.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Who who knew that RFK Junior was going to be
the guy that would come in and have like a
huge win. Not me for sure exactly, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Who thought that that was where it was going to
come from? Okay, well you know what I know it was.
It was incredible to go through and spend a day
with him back on a COVID JAB session UH in Nashville,
which Jason Whitlock and Steve Jason, a bunch of different
people from Blaze and Senator Ron Johnson was there and
just going through and hearing his conviction on autism, on
(19:55):
the jabs, on everything that he has put his life towards.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Right, leave all like crazy leftis stuff aside. But when
you look at the health stuff, he means it.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I think that he knows he knows the deep
state better than anyone, look at what has happened to
his own family. So you're not going to scare somebody
like an RFPA junior out of doing what is necessary
in the amount of time that he has because he
understands what needs to be done. And I think that
is a very good first step for everybody else that's
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out there and saying, okay, you know what, we can
follow his lead, like let him take some of the
arrows for doing like a major thing right off the bat.
But now people have to start getting wins in every
department because we know this isn't a four year project, Carol,
Like we just go through one hundred years of them
taking this over to dismantle it. We have to go
(20:49):
through and make sure that we have lasting impact. And
I think that the r PA junior just coming in
and like kind of you know, some blazing.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Through right away. That's that's a really good start for us.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Advice do you give your sixteen year old self if
you had to do it again?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, when I was in high school, a lot of
people I was in a small high school back in Iowa,
and a lot of people said, oh, you want to
do what you think that you're going to be like
a sports reporter, political reporter.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh, like nobody has those jobs. There's like five jobs
out there.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, well, Garens, I want to be a writer. And
they were like, that's not a thing, so.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I can't do that doing right?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, But I thought, you know, well, okay, Well, if
if there are five jobs, well five people will have
to do them.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I'll figure it out. Like there was like no nepotism here.
I had that helping me.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I figured it out as I go, And I think
that one of the one of the greatest compliments that
I have from some of my people that were back
in the sports world is like, if there is one
thing about Jill Savage, she will figure it out.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think that is the way.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That I look at the world. I've lived in six
different states. I don't have like ties like that I did.
I make myself. Oh I have to do this, I
have to live here, I have to do it. I
think that I have given myself the flexibility. So the
advice that I would have would just be to trust myself,
trust my instincts, and network like crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
This is all about who you know. This is nope.
Ones never asked me what you can do the job
or you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Right, I agree with you about networking, but don't undersell yourself.
You are a huge talent. I mean, yeah, you know,
there's there is a reason why you were like, if
there are five jobs, one of those jobs is.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Going to be mine.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You know, and good for you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I love that it's a very competitive industry, and I
will not shy away from telling people that when I
go and speak at colleges or whatever. I say, Hey,
my sister's the vice president of the bank. She has
a safe, secure job, she has great health care. She
knows like every paycheck that she's ever going to have.
I live on like a two to three year contract. Yeah,
(23:00):
And I'm like, maybe I'm my own out there who knows, like, we'll.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Figure it out, right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So you have to be a certain kind of person
that is willing to take risks to make it in
this in this job.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
That that is for sure. And I think that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
One of one of the fun stories that I have
when I was just learning along the way was so
I was working for the PAC twelve network. I worked
there for about eight years and my boss there at
the time text me over Thanksgiving and he says, hey,
what do you know about hockey? And I was like, yeah, sure,
I got you. What do you need, right, You've never
heard down a job in this industry, and so he said, oh, well,
(23:40):
this is where the World Junior Hockey Tournament comes in
for NHL network. And he's like, yeah, my guy in
New York, he's looking for somebody. It's over Christmas the
New Years. It's going to be in Sweden.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are you willing to go?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And I was like, yeah, sure, count me in, Like
whenever that needs to happen, Carol.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I knew nothing about hockey.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I bought I'll learn about hockey on the flight, right.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
On the flight home, as we do.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And so then I knew I had a month. It
was Thanksgiving. It I didn't have to leave until like Christmas.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And Son for you, you're going to become a pro.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And hockey please, So I take every single hockey game
between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I wrote out on a yellow
legal pad all the questions that the reporters asked.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I said, these are legitimate hockey questions. I know sports.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I can make it go from here. And then my
producer at the time was a huge hockey fan, so
I would buy him lunch and I would say, tell
me what you're watching at this point in time. And
so I worked that job for seven years and it
was some of the most fun memories that I have
now in there.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So that's like, go ahead, take risks.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's okay, you don't have to be tied down to
one thing, and I think that's something different that like
my dad just had like the same company for like
thirty five years that he has worked for.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I mean, if I make it like ten years with
the company, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh my gosh, look at this, right, and I have.
I think Packbell Network was in eight years. I think
that's the longest that it's been.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But it's just it's okay to make things up as
we go along.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No way knows what they're doing or I'll figure this out,
so have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I love that I've loved this conversation. I've always wanted
to know more about you and us. Here with your
best tip for my listeners on how they can improve
their lives.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So my best tip is I always look at my
life as chapters of my life, and if something isn't
going well, flip the.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Page and start a new chapter.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think it's easy for me to look at this
because it's like, oh, here's like childhood, your sports, here's politics.
But you can go through and figure out if something's
not going well well, make the changes that are necessary
in your life. You don't have to have everything completely
figured out. I have learned throughout my time that if
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I jump and take that risk, that I.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Will figure it out right.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And I think that you have to identify what lights
you up, as you said, like this investigation.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It lights me up.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Figure out what does that for you, and do more
of it. And I can tell you that the best
chapter of my life is the one that I'm currently in.
I have love it had more fun than what.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I am doing right now.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And I think that a lot of people, like just
from the outside looking in, they would say, oh, but
like the football games are probably more fun, right if
you're a football fan.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I still am a football fan. I love like Carol,
I can stimony couch.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
All day on Saturdays and watch college football from starts
to end.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I love that. But I know that the best use
for my talents is what I'm doing right now with
the show, with the investigative stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And I can't wait, like to keep going on that
journey because I think this is actually just the starting.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Point for the rest of my career. It's where you belong.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I love it. She is Jill Savage. Watch her on
The Mandate on Blaize TV. Read her on blaze dot com.
Thank you so much for coming on, Jill.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Thank you, Carol,
Hi, and welcome back to Carol mark Wood Show on iHeartRadio.
My guest today is Jill Savage. Jill is host of
the Mandate on Blaize TV and she's working on a
series of stories on Coreymills on Blaze dot com. Hi Jill,
so nice to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, Carol, thanks so much for reaching out to do this.
I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I'm really excited to learn more about you. I feel
like you are a wonderful reporter, and I don't feel
like I know a lot about your history through your writing,
Like I've read a lot of your stuff. So how
did you get your start?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I grew up in Iowa, right, so it was the
first of the nation caucus state. But also like Iowa
basketball was like the first thing that I ever loved
in So I grew up. I always say, like, sitting
next to my dad, whatever he likes, I like. So
that was like the sports history.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I love that. Yeah, So I knew that from an
early age.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I would say things on watching games before the announcers
would say them on TV.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Wow, I'm like, this is so easy. This is totally
what I'm going to do in junior high I was like,
this is it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And then like as I got through and got a
little bit older in high school, I was like, well,
I still want to do the political stuff too.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
So I just kind of like meshed together the.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Best of both worlds and spent about thirteen years as
a sports reporter, and I got to go like I
was on like the sidelines for college football and like
final fours and national playoff games, and got to work
like a World Junior Hockey tournament for NHL Network all
around like.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sweden, Finland, the Tech Republic. So it was it was
such a good.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Experience to just go out there and just like see
the world and honestly not have to pay.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
For sports because they were paying me. Yeah, and then at.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Some point, you know, I was like, Okay, well I
do actually want to do the political stuff. I actually
care about the country. So made the switch on over
because I felt like I had so.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Much talent inside you, so much more to give.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
They just like five minutes of television on the sports
broad So that's ultimately what led to the change.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I feel like there's finally on the right more sports conversations,
you know. Klay Travis, my co host, and my other
show Mary Katherine Ham, they do a lot of crossover
sports and politics. Do you find yourself doing that or
you just kind of limit to politics right now?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, I think that because of the focus of our
show is Trump and the administration right now.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
We do try and snake in sports, though, like wherever
it's possible.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's funny because I just saw Clay this weekend out
in Washington, DC, and I've worked with him back in
the day as well as I'm a huge fan of
what he's doing, and just the fact that there is
some pushback because I will tell you that growing up,
just knowing that I love sports and everything that was
going on, it was worse on the sports side for journalism.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
If you think that news reporters.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Are boased, well, the journalists that are over on their
sports side, they have no filters. They don't think that
they need to be impartial, like there's nothing to do.
It's stopping them. So it's actually if you think it's like,
you know, ninety percent of like news journalists, well it's
like ninety nine percent of right. Yeah, it's a bad
news situation over there. And that's why people like play
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have had so much success because it.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Was literally a wide open lane. Right.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Will Kine also is another one who I think does
a lot of sports politics crossover.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's funny because I know so many like normy guys
who you know, they're right of center, but they don't
spend their time focused on politics who used to just
have ESPN on all the time in the background. But
it just got so political that they don't anymore. I
walk into like any house that I used to walk
into and see ESPN on, it just isn't on in
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the same way anymore. I think that they've really lost
a chunk of their audience because of that stupid politics.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and it wasn't it wasn't something that had to
happen because they went so woke, right. I think there
is a shift over to digit But I think that
ESPN had such a presence about them, such an ability
to capture an audience and keep it right. Like you
just keep your TV on ESPN all day, And that's
what I would do, like growing up, or you know,
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like in high school whatever, like just trying to get
caught up on all the games, all the scores, everything
that was going on.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It would just be a lot of ESPN.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And now I'm like, I don't know the last time
unless I'm watching an actual game. I turned it on
and I turned it right off. I don't stick around
for anything. There's not any like must watch TV or
on ESPN.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They've made it so bad. It's really too bad.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I feel like there's so much room for it to
be the place that all Americans go to to kind
of watch the same thing, which we don't really have
that much anymore. But so what do you consider your
beat at the Blaze?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So we have the Mandate, which is all about Trump
and the administration and everything that is going on. We
had a general news show before that we were doing,
but we understood that this is the time that really
matters right now to to figure out what's going on
with this administration. And even like the rejuvenation, like when
Elon Musk came on the season, young men started paying
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attention in ways that they never did before, and we're like, okay,
there's something here.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
People want more than just what they're given.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And so that's why we we went and changed and
just went directly into Trump and the mandate and how
are we going to make sure that we are able
to implement what needs to happen at this place in time,
because this is it's the best chance that we have,
and I don't want to see us all screw this up.
I want to make sure that this is something that
are lasting. Even like during the confirmations for Trump's cabinet, right,
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I would I would jokingly refer to it like as
a sports thing, and I was like, oh, yeah, making season.
But people were paying attention to that, like people were
talking about it in an in depth way on just
you know, like if you hear these conversations that are
going around, And I thought, man, even like ten years ago,
people wouldn't even be known who was getting confirmed, let
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alone like following the confirmation process as it was going
on like so indepthly. So I think that's when we
were like, Okay, there's definitely something here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And how did you get into writing your series on
Corey Mills. He's a Republican in Florida, and it's not
typical for a right leaning outlet to write I wouldn't
call it an expose or would you call it that.
It is exposing some things about his life and history
that were previously unknown, and it is unusual for an
outlet like the Blaze to cover a Republican like this, right.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's one of the things.
So I'll answer your first question. How did we get
to this point? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Well, I was out on a helicopter with him during
Hurricane Helene out in western North Carolina, and you know
Glenn that came with us. There were a bunch of
people that were out there just volunteering. We got to
spend the entire day with Corey Mills. Now, at the
end of that day, we were writing the helicopter back
to the airport and Corey was just saying a lot
of things that you know, I didn't ask him. Nobody
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asked him about his personal life the very first day
that we met him. But it came to be that
we figured out that he was lying to us in
several like there were a couple of different lies. And
I thought, okay, well that was really interesting because nobody
pushed you on that. You weren't answering a direct question.
This is just something that you offered up to us, right,
And I thought that was so strange. So I'd gone
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through and I've probably seen him about five times at
five different events, on the last one being inauguration night,
and so then it comes out in February there was
a domestic violence allegations where his girlfriend at the time
had called the cops and said, you know here, this
is happening.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They'd both since taken us back since this has all happened,
but nonetheless she called the cops and she said, oh,
my significant other for over a year. Well, he had
lied to us and said that he was completely single.
There was absolutely no one in her.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Life, and he was very lonely. And I went, wait
a minute, you're girth with you for a year, Like,
what's going on here? So I thought, okay, if you're
lying to us about that, what else is there?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And so I just go through and honestly, as soon
as I start looking, I find a whole plethora of
things where he was married by a radical moufti, that
he was an unindicted co conspirator for the nineteen ninety
three World Trade Center bombings, and I was.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Like, oh.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And then there were stolen valor allegations, and you know,
he claimed to be an army ranger and jaysack and
a sniper and none of those were true. And the
cornerstone of him running for Congress. Was I'm a veteran,
I was blown up twice in Iraq, and I'm a
great business man and you should vote for me. Well,
in a fifteen minute phone call with our reporter Peter geedle,
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Corey actually admitted to him that he wasn't blown up
twice in Iraq.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
He got a concussion on the first one. We're like, okay, sure,
and then the second one, Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't
a part of that one, No, because I knew. I
think you could tell that we had already talked to
the guys that were there at that point in time.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But yeah, there were just so many things, and then
we'd go and jump into if we can bring in
the FBI. This is where the real fun gets started.
Is there's a potential rogue FBI agent out there that.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Was questioning our sources.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Uh. And you know this, This FBI agent reached out
to our first source back in November, on November twenty sixth,
and she was just saying, Hey, I've been referring to
your case and our sources have been trying to like
put this news out there, and like.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh, finally somebody's listening to us.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, So they turn over all the information that they
have and then eventually it switches from war. Okay, well,
we're not actually going to look into the stolen valor
allegations anymore. There's no there there. Like, it's fine enough
plausible deniability. What do you know about his business feelings?
Cory is an international arms dealer and him and his
wife had started their company right after they got married.
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They got married until June of twenty fourteen, and within
the first year of starting their international arms company, they
get a two hundred and twenty eight million dollar contract
with Iraq that was so big that even a RAQ
was like, hold on, we're going to audit this. And
they didn't actually get it up paid out in full.
But like, I don't know, Carol, I want that kind
of luck in my life. I want this business hit
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the jackpot right away and all that. So then with
my investigation, looking in through all these sources, right, one
of the sources says, hey, you know a ton about him.
You met him several times. I think that your information
that you have would be very valuable to this FBI agent.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And I said, sure, if you want to put me
in touch, no problem.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm here to help, right, And so twelve days later,
after she receives my contact information, she reaches back out
to the only other female source that we have and
she hadn't talked to her since December and this is
now April, and she says, hey, are you willing to
become a confidential human source and we'll pay you? And
she's like yeah, like literally anything to take this guy down.
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And then she goes, okay, well, are you willing to
go undercover because there's another lady that we need you
to look into. Carol, I'm the only other lady that
has entered the story. Now there have been like a
lady since then, but on April eleven, I was the
only other female.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
In the entire story.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Say you know this, this is not an FBI investigation.
We know because we asked them, and they said.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Of an FBI investigation, they are completely unaware of this situation.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
As always, we will, you know, address this swiftly and appropriately.
And then they came back the next day and actually
added to the statement and said, we have made the
General Counsel aware of this situation. So if the FBI
knew if there was an open case number, if there
were three or two files on our sources, they could
have gotten to the bottom of that immediate least.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And it's been over a month and nothing yet.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Wow, have you gotten pushback for going I don't want
to say going after Republican because I feel like this
was dropped in your lap, Like you know, you investigated
something that was handed to you.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
But exactly to that point, we weren't setting out to
do it, right, I just went okay, and I turned
over a rock and I said, oh, well there's.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
A lot there right now, Yeah, we need to look
into this, right, you know, just the he can claims
that he's still a Christian.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I and other sources at Blaze News have talked to
five people that Corey Mills had personally told them that
he converted to Islam back around twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right, So, like, there were just so many things that
I'm like, okay, but that doesn't add up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That doesn't add up, Right, And then when we get
to the fifteen minute phone call that Corey had with
our reporter and all we all we did, we asked
him two questions when we reached out for comment, what
is the congressman's religion and did this guy marry him
write the radical movie, did.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
He marry him? Everything? Just oh, what are you doing?
You can't do this?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
This is this is absurd, you know, like his reaction,
no straight answer. Well, so he did the radical moves,
he married him, His mother in law wanted an Iraqi
to marry them, And I said, so we start with
the move piece like there there were no like low
level of mind right, d.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like we figured this out, like there's no one else.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
So that just that to me was there were more
red flags and we're still doing more investigative work on it.
The story is, I would say, far over at this point.
So yeah, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But so have you got have you gotten pushback? Like
as in why you know?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Why do this?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So some people are upset because they're like, well he's
he's great, right.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I had nothing but positive. I had nothing but positive
kind of opinions on him before reading your series.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I will say from what I found my personal observation,
if you listen to what he says, it's great, right.
If you look at what is actually happening, it tells
a different story. I have literally put up a whiteboard
before to try and organize this for some coworkers of mine,
and I said the event Corey's version the truth, because
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you can't there are so many different lies on top
of other lies that it really is.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
This story is so in depth.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
There are so many moving pieces to this, it honestly
takes forever to like just get through like a base
layer understanding. Right, Yes, did you always that's how he's
gotten away with it so far?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Did you always want to do like investigative work?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So I think this is like the best highest use
of my brain, Like, this is exactly what I love.
And I can tell you that I will continue to
do this from this point on because I absolutely love this.
Matthew Peterson is our editor and she's here at Blaze
News and he's like joking that, like, I'm like the
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editor of all of the investigative team right now, Yeah,
because I have just kind of de facto fell into
I'm like the leader of this team, keeping everybody up
to speed on what's happening and like any of the
news stories that are going to be coming out, and
keeping everybody, you know, all the pieces moving that need
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to be moving.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And still hosting the show and doing all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But this does seem like you're calling like you live
up talking about this.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yes, and so because my brain care on. My brain
loves puzzles. It always has like I would like to
play like Tetris as a kid, like the Finished Puzzles
like before everybody else, and I love like I'm here
at the Blaze with Glenn Beck, right.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I loved the chalk War.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I love learning and that like that has spoken to
me since back at his Fox days, and I would
just eat all of that stuff up.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
And so I'm like, okay, how do I love? I
love learning the information.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I love sharing the information and just trying to put
together a very complex puzzle. And this story has given
me all of this and so much more. And so
it's it's definitely enjoyable. Unfortunately for the congressman we are
having I'm enjoying my time right now.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I love it for you, I really I think that
that really suits you. We're going to take a quick
break and be right back on the Carol Marcoitch Show.
What did you worry about?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I would go back to it always for me, it
always goes back to Ronald Reagan and a Time for
Choosing in nineteen sixty four, and it's how much of
a nerd. I am that I actually have this burned
on an actual CD that is in my car at
all times, just to case I want to pull it
out to I believe that we are the last best
hope on earth. And if you don't have us to
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turn to, where else do you go? Right, it's the
sentencing our children take the first step into a thousand
years of darkness. I understand Donald Trump one. We are
all very excited about that, but we can't let.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It stop there.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
This is the first step, right, And I just got
back from Washington, DC late last night and talking to
people out.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
There, right, you hear about the deep state? Oh what
is this? And how bad is this? Actually? Well, it's
still really bad. You guys, Like, it doesn't matter if
our people are in the top positions and we filled
the cabinet with great people, that's excellent. That's my first step.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But you know, some of these agencies have eighty percent
bad people in them, right, And it takes so long
to figure out who's on your team, who's telling you lies,
who's going to be real with you, who's actually going
to change this stuff? And I feel like that to
me is still the absolute biggest worry of mine, because
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I don't want people to get complacent. I want to
make sure that we have the best resources that are
at our disposal.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And that's what we try and do on mandate is just.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Say, hey, these guys are good and playing ball, and.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You know, sometimes if you need to go after.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
A fellow Republican, okay, guys, if they're not the ones
doing what we think that they should be doing what
we know they shouldn't be doing, and let's call them
out on it, right Like the Democrats aren't ever going
to go through and say, oh, you know, AOC is
a problem of Pernie Sanders, Let'sbig Warren, they're problems.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh there. You know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The leftist problem is they're not leftists enough, they're not crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
And what for us. We have a country that we
have to manage and take care of and make sure
that we.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Can hand off a great and decent country to the
next generation. And that is, honestly, that's why I left sports,
is to go through and make sure that we can
actually have something that looks a little bit like freedom
to give to the next generation.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Do you feel hopeful about that?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It ebbs and flows depending on the day, depending on
some of the stories, right, but I hear and sometimes
it's like, oh man, that's that's an incredible win, right.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Who who knew that RFK Junior was going to be
the guy that would come in and have like a
huge win. Not me for sure exactly, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Who thought that that was where it was going to
come from? Okay, well you know what I know it was.
It was incredible to go through and spend a day
with him back on a COVID JAB session UH in Nashville,
which Jason Whitlock and Steve Jason, a bunch of different
people from Blaze and Senator Ron Johnson was there and
just going through and hearing his conviction on autism, on
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the jabs, on everything that he has put his life towards.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Right, leave all like crazy leftis stuff aside. But when
you look at the health stuff, he means it.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I think that he knows he knows the deep
state better than anyone, look at what has happened to
his own family. So you're not going to scare somebody
like an RFPA junior out of doing what is necessary
in the amount of time that he has because he
understands what needs to be done. And I think that
is a very good first step for everybody else that's
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out there and saying, okay, you know what, we can
follow his lead, like let him take some of the
arrows for doing like a major thing right off the bat.
But now people have to start getting wins in every
department because we know this isn't a four year project, Carol,
Like we just go through one hundred years of them
taking this over to dismantle it. We have to go
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through and make sure that we have lasting impact. And
I think that the r PA junior just coming in
and like kind of you know, some blazing.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Through right away. That's that's a really good start for us.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Advice do you give your sixteen year old self if
you had to do it again?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, when I was in high school, a lot of
people I was in a small high school back in Iowa,
and a lot of people said, oh, you want to
do what you think that you're going to be like
a sports reporter, political reporter.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh, like nobody has those jobs. There's like five jobs
out there.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, well, Garens, I want to be a writer. And
they were like, that's not a thing, so.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I can't do that doing right?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, But I thought, you know, well, okay, Well, if
if there are five jobs, well five people will have
to do them.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I'll figure it out. Like there was like no nepotism here.
I had that helping me.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I figured it out as I go, And I think
that one of the one of the greatest compliments that
I have from some of my people that were back
in the sports world is like, if there is one
thing about Jill Savage, she will figure it out.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think that is the way.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That I look at the world. I've lived in six
different states. I don't have like ties like that I did.
I make myself. Oh I have to do this, I
have to live here, I have to do it. I
think that I have given myself the flexibility. So the
advice that I would have would just be to trust myself,
trust my instincts, and network like crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
This is all about who you know. This is nope.
Ones never asked me what you can do the job
or you can't.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Right, I agree with you about networking, but don't undersell yourself.
You are a huge talent. I mean, yeah, you know,
there's there is a reason why you were like, if
there are five jobs, one of those jobs is.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Going to be mine.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
You know, and good for you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I love that it's a very competitive industry, and I
will not shy away from telling people that when I
go and speak at colleges or whatever. I say, Hey,
my sister's the vice president of the bank. She has
a safe, secure job, she has great health care. She
knows like every paycheck that she's ever going to have.
I live on like a two to three year contract. Yeah,
(23:00):
And I'm like, maybe I'm my own out there who knows, like, we'll.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Figure it out, right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So you have to be a certain kind of person
that is willing to take risks to make it in
this in this job.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
That that is for sure. And I think that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
One of one of the fun stories that I have
when I was just learning along the way was so
I was working for the PAC twelve network. I worked
there for about eight years and my boss there at
the time text me over Thanksgiving and he says, hey,
what do you know about hockey? And I was like, yeah, sure,
I got you. What do you need, right, You've never
heard down a job in this industry, and so he said, oh, well,
(23:40):
this is where the World Junior Hockey Tournament comes in
for NHL network. And he's like, yeah, my guy in
New York, he's looking for somebody. It's over Christmas the
New Years. It's going to be in Sweden.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Are you willing to go?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And I was like, yeah, sure, count me in, Like
whenever that needs to happen, Carol.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I knew nothing about hockey.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I bought I'll learn about hockey on the flight, right.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
On the flight home, as we do.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And so then I knew I had a month. It
was Thanksgiving. It I didn't have to leave until like Christmas.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And Son for you, you're going to become a pro.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And hockey please, So I take every single hockey game
between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I wrote out on a yellow
legal pad all the questions that the reporters asked.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I said, these are legitimate hockey questions. I know sports.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I can make it go from here. And then my
producer at the time was a huge hockey fan, so
I would buy him lunch and I would say, tell
me what you're watching at this point in time. And
so I worked that job for seven years and it
was some of the most fun memories that I have
now in there.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So that's like, go ahead, take risks.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's okay, you don't have to be tied down to
one thing, and I think that's something different that like
my dad just had like the same company for like
thirty five years that he has worked for.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I mean, if I make it like ten years with
the company, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh my gosh, look at this, right, and I have.
I think Packbell Network was in eight years. I think
that's the longest that it's been.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But it's just it's okay to make things up as
we go along.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No way knows what they're doing or I'll figure this out,
so have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I love that I've loved this conversation. I've always wanted
to know more about you and us. Here with your
best tip for my listeners on how they can improve
their lives.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So my best tip is I always look at my
life as chapters of my life, and if something isn't
going well, flip the.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Page and start a new chapter.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I think it's easy for me to look at this
because it's like, oh, here's like childhood, your sports, here's politics.
But you can go through and figure out if something's
not going well well, make the changes that are necessary
in your life. You don't have to have everything completely
figured out. I have learned throughout my time that if
(25:47):
I jump and take that risk, that I.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Will figure it out right.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And I think that you have to identify what lights
you up, as you said, like this investigation.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
It lights me up.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Figure out what does that for you, and do more
of it. And I can tell you that the best
chapter of my life is the one that I'm currently in.
I have love it had more fun than what.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I am doing right now.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And I think that a lot of people, like just
from the outside looking in, they would say, oh, but
like the football games are probably more fun, right if
you're a football fan.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I still am a football fan. I love like Carol,
I can stimony couch.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
All day on Saturdays and watch college football from starts
to end.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I love that. But I know that the best use
for my talents is what I'm doing right now with
the show, with the investigative stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And I can't wait, like to keep going on that
journey because I think this is actually just the starting.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Point for the rest of my career. It's where you belong.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I love it. She is Jill Savage. Watch her on
The Mandate on Blaize TV. Read her on blaze dot com.
Thank you so much for coming on, Jill.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Thank you, Carol,
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