In this episode, Tim Rice, Deputy Managing Editor at The Daily Wire, shares his unique journey into media, his insights on healthcare policy, and the impact of parenthood on his perspective. He discusses the underrepresentation of healthcare issues in political discourse and offers practical advice for listeners, emphasizing the importance of preparation in daily life. The Karol Markowicz Show is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Wednesday & Friday.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Ks.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Carol Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
My guest today is Tim Rice. Tim is deputy managing
editor at The Daily Wire.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hi, Tim, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hey, Carol, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Tell me about your path to becoming the deputy managing
editor at Daily Wire.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Did you always want to be in media?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, so it's funny. I kind of took a circuitous
path to where I am, but I did citus. Yeah,
all right. When I was in college, I really wanted
to work in media, and I actually had internships at
Believe it or Not, MSNBC and CBS News in New York.
I was played for a slightly different team then. But
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you know, after I graduated, it became clear to me
two things. One was that there weren't a ton of
jobs to get in TV news, and the other is
that most of the jobs that were available I didn't
really want. So I wound up kind of weirdly after
a couple of months at home and sort of trying
to take the next job that came my way. I
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took a job as a project manager at the Manhattan Institute,
working on the health policy team, and that was just
sort of like a roll of the dice. I was
this was the kind of the beginning of the campus
free speech stuff, and that was the first thing that
really sort of got me thinking that I was maybe
interested in a more conservative kind of politics. You know.
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I wasn't necessarily there yet on economic matters or things
like that, but I thought this was really bad, Like, yeah,
this is really bad. And being on a college campus
where fortunately we didn't have that happen at holy Cross
where I went, but it felt like very it felt
very close to home, you know, because I was like, oh,
if this happened here, that would be bad. So it
turned out though that I kind of enjoyed health policy,
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and the more I was exposed to, you know, all
the great thinkers and ideas that happening, the more I
realized that this was where, uh, sort of my intellectual
and political home was. And also around that time, I
started writing and editing. I was helping scholars write off eds.
I started eventually publishing under my own name, and that's
really what I thought, Okay, this is something that I
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want to do. I moved to Washington was working at
a small consulting firm in Georgetown for a little bit
so that was sort of like Peelly. That was my
real crucible moment. I was just faking through copy all
the time, still trying to do my own thing. Spent
the smallest little bit of time in the first Trump administration.
I joined I think the second week of July twenty
(02:33):
twenty and then just ran out of the clock at
the Office of Personnel Management. So that was fun. And
then right when I was I worked up until the
last day the Friday before Inauguration Day, and I actually
at the time that I started talking to the Washington
Free Beacon they were looking to hire an editor, and
I actually left oh pm on my last the last
day of the Trump administration, I walked outside and sat
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on a park bench across the street and I called
to accept my job there. Started out as an associate
editor there was there for about four years, left as
the senior editor. And yeah, it's been just about a
year since I joined the Wire and it's been fantastic.
It's a very great uh, it's a really awesome publication,
as hopefully many of your listeners know, and a really
cool team, and it's an exciting moment. We're actually opening
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a DC bureau. We're days away from opening the brick
and mortar. So in addition to my deputy managerial duties,
I'm also going to be heading up the DC office,
which we're hoping to grow and expand at the moment.
And yeah, we can boast that we have our White
House correspondent, Mary Margaret Olhan.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Who is amazing on the show's been on the program.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
She's everywhere, all all the time, all at once. Whatever
that movie was, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That movie was not good, but yes, but Mary Margaret
is very.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Good right now. It's it's she and I just sort
of trying to put some roots down here in d C.
But yeah, so kind of a crazy journey from MSNBC
to Daily wires Man in DC in the swamp, but uh,
it's been it's been a pretty fantastic, uh journey so far.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, we're very glad to have you on the right.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So do you feel like you have a beat, like
is there are there kind of topics that you.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Are more interested in than others?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, in terms of my interests, I'm still kind of
and we don't really do a ton of this. We're
trying to. We're doing a little bit more of it now,
but I mean, I'm still like a diet in the
whole healthcare guy. That's like me personally, I would say,
in terms of policy issues, that's what I sort of
gravitated you. In addition to more just sort of like
general culture things. And I don't write a ton what
(04:40):
I do. Uh, that's actually not even really true anymore.
I do write more for the Wire just because we're
constantly cracking things out. But you know, for the longest time,
if I would write, I would just sort of write
like more human interest pieces or you know, sort of
general cultural commentary. But no, in terms of my actual job,
I just really it's me and and my my good
friend Brent Shirr, who's our or in chief.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, I think it's also been on the show.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And if not, no, he hasn't. I've tried. Yeah, he's
very hard to get.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
As you can work. We can work on that, but
pretty much, and of course, you know, a million other people.
We have a whole stable of editors, but Brett and
I just sort of anything, Yeah, it's printed on the
website goes at the at least at some point through
one of us. Again in addition to a gazillion other people.
So yeah, No, I don't really see myself as having it.
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My beat is whatever my writers are doing right at
the moment. And so at the beacon that was I had.
By the time I was gone, I covered everything because
I had writers who were our court reporters are science reporters, education,
foreign policy, investigative reporters. And now it's the same thing.
We've got some great investigative reporters are just doing you know,
(05:50):
whatever crazy things they can come up with, Like Luke
Rosiac is an absolute killer. I don't even know what
Luke does or how he does it. I just know
that it's awesome, and I let him cook. And we've
got Mary Margaret and the White House. We've got folks
covering foreign policy, education, social issues, so I mean, yeah,
it's it's honestly. One of my favorite things about the
job is that every single day is different. It's just
(06:12):
a constant different permutations of you know, who's working on
what and what's happening in the news. And you know,
I hate long term projects. I've never been a fan
of long term projects. I hate.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
This is a perfect job for you, right.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're fifteen more days until that's due or until that
event like this is really just right to do.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right now, it's out in an.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Hour, and then it's basically irrelevant by the time it's published. Starting.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I find it really difficult when I write for places
that have a long lead time. Having said that, this
show has a long lead time, so this will be
out in a few weeks, but I really it's very
hard for me to like wait for my piece to
come out, and if it's like a week or something,
that's just it's tough for sure. So you're a healthcare
policy guy, I feel like that's an undercovered topic on
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the right, and I think that there could be so
much more on it. What do you think is undercovered
or do you find it undercovered as well?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, one thousand percent. It's I talk about this a lot.
And you know, if you think back to right before
the twenty sixteen presidential election, right where everything sort of
got upended for good reasons and bad reasons, right, the
good reasons being you know, sort of the shift in
President Trump coming in and kind of upsetting the status quo,
and you know, things kind of you know, a lot
(07:28):
of things come into a head and the bad ways
of just all of a sudden the main issue on
Democrats kind of polarizing everything. Like the biggest issue that
everyone was talking about in September twenty sixteen was EpiPen prisis.
Bernie was going crazy. People were defended. We had all
these different bills. We were talking about Obamacare m It
was huge, and there were, of course, like good ideas
and stupid ideas, weird ideas, but it was a really
(07:51):
pretty productive policy conversation if you go back and look
at the things people were debating. Things got weird in
the first Trump administration because the president and his team
sort of started trying out things that had been kind
of the purview of the left, and then letdn't really
know what to do with that, so don't. Yeah, they
still don't. They stopped talking about it, and then COVID happened,
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and then for about five minutes, Republicans were like, see
big pharma, We've been telling you for years, it's great.
But then that flipped and now and then Democrats were
pro big pharma, and now nobody's pro big pharma, right,
and no one wants to talk about health insurance, and
we're kind of having a good conversation about Medicaid now
but yeah, so, I mean those are I sort of
think of it in those three buckets. I think of entitlements,
(08:35):
the prices, and just insurance in general, and I think
it's all undercovered. I think that there is.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is it because people just don't have like the background information,
Like I feel like a lot of stories on it
would need a lot of like how we got here,
like why things are the way they are.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Here's a whole book you can read about it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think that's part of it, And especially because like
even the a couple of years where no one was
talking about it, Like I'm sure that if I called
my interns right now and ask them about like Obamacare,
they wouldn't even think. Whereas, like, you know, I feel
like I sometimes still think of Obamacare as this new
thing that we should fight. It's been what fifty ten years,
eleven years since.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I still think we should fight it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like wow, accepting this, And it's like,
you know, my interns probably like basically grew up in
a world with Obamacare, right, So I do think that's
part of it. I think another part of it is
that healthcare is other than education. Healthcare is one of
the most personal policy areas. At some point, all of
us are going to go through the healthcare system, just
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like all of us have gone through the education system,
and it obviously can be more painful, and it's it's
I don't want to I don't want to diminish education policy, certainly,
but like there is it's easier to channel anger when right,
like you figure out what your kids are learning, and
then it's like there's obviously like a lot that we
have to do, but there's a very quick first step,
which is like fire the teachers, right, we'll homeschool your kids,
(10:00):
or we got to fix like we know where to
stop it with healthcare because it's so multifascinated. I think
that same impulse, right, like so much political interest, so
much of what drives policy is when does this affect me?
And how moved am I am? To fight it? Right,
But it's hard to then latch onto it, like what's
the problem. Is it big pharma? Is it the insurance companies?
(10:21):
Is it the government? I mean the answer is yes,
it's all of that and it's all locked. But so
I think it's hard and then people start be the
over emphasize like this is why, and there's a lot
of good stuff with the MAHA movement. Yeah, I think
you know, I would love I'll just say this, I
would love if the MAHA guys talked a little bit
about more of the structural problems about entitlement reform, about
(10:42):
things like that instead of just like, yeah, ban red
dye number forty, make sure the meat is better, encourage
people to exercise and live healthy lifestyles. Fantastic, But like,
what about medicaid? What about all these insane things going
through Obamacare? What about bringing back some of the twenty
seventeen Trump era insurance regulations? What about coming up with
a vision for what our healthcare system looks like? Because yeah,
(11:04):
you can make people so healthy, you really can. But like,
people are still going to get sick, people are still
going to die, people are still going to get hurt.
People are always going to need to go to hospitals,
see doctors, take drugs, and pay for all of it.
And we have yet to figure out how to do
any of that. And so I do think that that
is still something that you know, is not necessarily covered
(11:26):
as much as it should be, And I definitely think
that it should be talked about more for you, Like,
I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Just heard a book pitch, and I expect your next
appearance on the show, I'm going to be talking about
the book that all my listeners should buy because this
is I agree. I think this needs to all be
you know, it needs to be covered more extensively, and
I think you're the man to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I I nominate you, I accept, I accept. If there
are any publishers listening, you can fill there are, Yeah, sure,
I'm sure I've got the pitch somewhere in a Google doc.
It's it. I clearly think about this a lot. So
it's so.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Funny because you know, I've follow you on X and
I really thought you were going to say that your
beat or your like topic, that you're really interested in culture,
Like you seem like you're a culture guy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I mean that's define.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think I didn't picture healthcare wonk.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You know I contain multitudes, you know this?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, also, no one, I mean, look, no one cares
what you tweet about health policy. There used to be
a really good there used to be like a really
good section on X of like healthcare guys. And no,
there's none of them use it anymore. They're all either
like retired this on Blue Sky or they're just like
completely given up because it's not fun anymore. But yeah, no,
I would say the culture stuff is absolutely Also, it's
(12:39):
interesting that you say that. I I'm glad that comes across.
I guess that is what I what I mostly post about.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, we're going to take a quick break and be
right back on the Carol Markowitch Show.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What do you worry about?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I used to worry about everything. I'm a very a
very anxious person by nature. Really, yeah, I not in
like a crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Know, but I was always like there was I used
to just I don't know I was. I'm an overthinker
or a worrier, I'm not sure. And I say used
to because I have an almost two year old daughter.
My daughter is going to be two in a couple
of weeks, and I have twins on the way. Wowk wow,
so's thank you. Yeah. But ever since I became a dad,
(13:25):
I just worry about my kids and the future, and
like in a way that I think is much more productive.
And I'm sure as a parent, you know exactly what
I'm talking about. I mean, obviously, for the first I'm
the typical dad in that the first few months, I
was terrified and always going into Now I'm slicking my
daughter over my shoulder like a potatoes, just to like
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care something. But I worry about I worry about my kids.
I worry about, you know, what life is going to
look like in the future, what the country is going
to look like. I want them to grow up and
be happy and healthy and all the things that every
parent wants for uh uh, you know, for the kids.
And so that's that's that's pretty much it. Yeah, And
it's funny, I don't even worry in I don't even
(14:06):
worry about raising them, Like I don't. I say that
sometimes and people, oh, no, you're you're gonna be a
great dad, and I'm like, I'm actually, I'm pretty confident
that I'm I know, yeah, my wife is going to
be is a fantastic mother. It's like, I'm not worried.
It's going to be crazy, Like having twins is going
to be insane, but I'm not worried about it because like,
what am I gonna do. I'm gonna figure it out.
They're coming. I'm worry about like down the line, and
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you know, sometimes that veers into political things. It's definitely
made me a little bit more reactionary on some things
that I didn't care about before I had kids.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's amazing how that happens.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right suddenly you're like, wait a minute, oh this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
All of a sudden, it's like the libertarian leaving my
body when I realized, well, it doesn't affect me because
now it's it's comp.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, absolutely, I'm very libertarian adjacent, but like, having kids
definitely moves you firmly into the conservative column.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
One hundred percent. But yeah, I would say that's pretty
much it. But yeah, once you have it's really it's
it is kind of amazing. I know a lot of
you know this is we're only the only the seven
million people to talk about why everyone should have kids,
especially on the right. But yeah, you know one thing
that I feel like people certainly say it. This is
not an original thought to me, but like it really
does people put everything into perspective, Like for sure, really
(15:20):
like I'm so much happier, not just because my daughter
is just like this amazing mm hmm creature who I love,
and it's been amazing to become a father and have
a family, but like you're just so much happier because
you don't have time to be happy about things that
don't matter. Like that's it. You can just and it's like, yeah,
maybe you have like fewer concerns, but like it really
is just that simple sometimes not you sit down with
(15:43):
your husband or your wife, you have a glass of
wine or a you put on a movie, you read
a book, you go for a walk, and it's like
this is kind of it. This is this is what
it's all about. So I don't really worry about anything
anymore because it dad.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, that's that's the right perspective. I've also I've gotten
really into country music, and country music is all like
it literally is like you get married and you have
a child and you bury the dog in the backyard
and you know, and that's your life right there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And I'm like crying in my car.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's like my wife and I have a really good
friend who puts is it next thing you do? Next thing?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And you know, I can't even I like, as soon
as it comes on, I have to change it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We have a friend who puts that on like every playlist.
It's just like it won't even fit, but you know,
it'll be all like seventies like funk classics and then
that'll come on and what is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That song brings the house down for me every single time.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's just it's too much.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's like our generation's Cats in the Cradle. It's kind
of worse.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, rapid passage of time.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, And nothing really happens in that song, right, he
just lives like a normal life and he has a
you know, marries a girl and has a family. I
just nothing happens that is unbelievable or unique, and yet
it's like so powerful.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And amazing, and I can't listen to it at all.
My kids are just like, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Change the song, Like Mom's gonna start crying right now.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, yeah, but it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's amazing how having kids puts everything into focus and
like how all the doom scrolling and the nonsense doesn't
matter anymore. It's I always say, it's like my husband
having you know, being in a good relationship also like
puts a force field around you, like you just don't
care about anything but the kids part for sure as well.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah. Well in marriage, it's also like it can kind
of like yes and no, because if you also are
in a good relationship that that also means that you
have someone who you can like complain to or like
talk about these things too all the time, so it's
like it's not it gets you there. And of course,
like if they're supportive, they'll talk to you. But it's
like you have someone instead of just like, you know,
kind of putting it out of your mind. Maybe I
should just talk.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Right, Yeah, But if somebody is mean to you on
the internet, you're like, I don't care, Like, yeah, my
real life is unbelievable, like.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You for the seventy fifth.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Time this week, and awesome, it's just so good.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I have so many thoughts about the movie in Kanto.
It's my daughter's like it's the only thing that you
want to listen to. And the music is nice enough
that it's like my wife and I are happy to
throw it on in the car instead of like just
nursery rhymes. We talk a lot about in Kanto in
this house. Now. That's so good.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, that's a great movie. I you know, they really
know what they're doing over there.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, So what advice would you give your sixteen year
old self?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You have a daughter, you have two more on the way,
but when.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You think about your own life, what advice would you
give sixteen year old Tim?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, I honestly, and I mean this sort of goes
back to the answer of my last question. I would
tell sixteen year old Tim to just stop worrying so much.
You know, that was probably I would say, like, do
you worry a lot? Yeah? But again, you know, not
like I was just a very like I was. I
was like a high achieving nerd in high school, you know,
the biggest warriors.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I didn't worry that the sky was falling, but I
worried about I had a test to college getting the
right extracurricular is you know insert what am I worrying about?
Not worrying enough? Right, like, so I'm already And then
the second year, you know, I was that kid, you know,
someone else on the school paper. Oh, I got some
internship with the local paper. I'm just playing to work
as a camp counselor again all of a sudden, yeah,
(19:16):
well there goes my dream of working at the New
York Times, which you know, ol like right, like that
sort of soul, I would tell six year old Tim,
you know, stop worrying. It doesn't really matter that much.
There's no real way to know what's gonna happen, right
like I and not even like it's funny, I even
as I think about it now, I did worry about
all those things, but I wasn't I was also like
(19:37):
I wasn't I said type I actually wasn't Type A.
I was more just like I wanted to like be
the best at things, but I actually wasn't that good.
But I wasn't good at planning. So like I really
have a plan. I was like, I just want to
like get good grades so I can go to a
good college, go to a good college, and then crush
it like question, you know, it's not like and then
(19:58):
I need to be pre law.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And I take over the world.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, basically shows holy Cross as an accident and it
was probably one of the best things that I ever did.
So like stuff like that, you know, like I had
these vacuous ideas of who I wanted to be as
an adult and what I wanted to do. And don't
think that family and kids figured into it that much.
Not in like an anti way, but because I was sixteen.
And if you're a sixteen year old boy who doesn't
grow up on country music, you know, I didn't think
(20:22):
about like having a wife and kids. I thought about
like having like cool suits and living in a party
in New York or something.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Rights exactly, yeah, like yeah, it was like, you know,
that was like peak like USA network shows about guys.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I just kind of like look cool and have awesome
jobs and make a lot of money. And I was like,
that seems good, I'll do that. Wow. The fact that
I thought journalism was the way to that sort of
point hilarious sort that And honestly this might sound cliche,
but I was, you know, I'd probably tell them to
like be do like a little fifflix, do some more
bad things like I talked to like my friends or
(20:56):
my wife, even like none of them were bad kids.
Beat oh yeah, like all the time, like snuck out
and had like a party in the woods or what. Listen.
It's not that I didn't, you know, I had. I
had an agree at high school. I was thought I
wasn't that much of a nerd. But like I probably
could have done more. I probably could have chilled out
a little. I could have cared at less about you know,
whatever I thought I was supposed to be caring about,
(21:17):
which again I think is probably like the most generic
advice that like a thirty year old guy can give
to myself. But like, you know, it's it's, uh, it's no.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I think caring less.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's funny because I've had people on the show say
that they would advise their teenage self to care more
because they didn't care a lot and they kind of
like skated through high school and maybe they should have
worked harder.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think, you know, with the power of.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Being able to look back at what your life was,
I think.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That people maybe just say the opposite of what they were.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was a solid B student. I didn't work at all.
There was no woods in Brooklyn, but if there were,
I would have partied in the woods.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I partied at the clubs in Manhattan instead.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But you know, I, yeah, wish I had worked a
little harder. I wish I had taken myself a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's just it's it's the opposite of whatever you did, really.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Exactly, and that's that's not a sign of like that
it turned out okay, right, yeah, exactly if you hadn't
worked hard and like had partied in the clubs in Manhattan.
But it all went badly for you, Like you wouldn't
be saying like I probably should have you. You'd either
be like constructing a mental castle around why it actually
turned out right, or you'd just be like devastated, but
it worked out for you for me right.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like Herope for me right if it has not, well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sixteen year old Tam should have like chilled out and
like I don't know, like you know, stolen beer from
somebody's garage.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Or something like, yes, sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I probably did. I probably kept out a good path
that it probably helped. But like you know, you know,
that's the luxury that we have now.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We're gonna take a quick break and be right back
on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, I love this conversation. You are awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Really, I feel like I got to know you leave
us here with your best tip for my listeners on
how they can improve their lives.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
No drink water. I don't have good.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Probably you know again, it doesn't have to be like,
you know, some deep advice.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I would say.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
One of the most popular pieces of advice on the
show is Buck Sexton and my very first episode said
read before bed, and so many people refer to it
when they when they messaged me, they say, oh, I
started reading before bed and it's gotten so good.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Drink more water.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I like it, honestly, that's I do. I have a
drink more water, drinking water, big on hydration. But here's
my actual answer, which is, uh, if you make coffee
at home, which probably should set your coffee up the
night before, set it up the night before.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I don't do that, but I always think I should set.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It up the night before. It's way easier. It's even
better if you don't have a grinder. Get the grinder.
That'll incentivize you to do it, because like you don't
want the loud noise in the morning, you do it
at night. You set it up. There's nothing better than
just tumbling downstairs and flicking the switch on. This is
something that my wife and I learned so smart. Yeah,
one of our very best friend's parents. That was like
(24:09):
their advice to us when we got married, and that's
what they to this day still do. And like when
we stay in their house, last person to go to
bed has to set the coffee up for the morning after.
And it is an absolute game changer. Even though really, yeah,
six months pregnant. She's not drinking coffee, but I still
like there are some days where I think I can
say I.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Drank coffee the whole way through three pregnancies, like you
worried about it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
This is more honor she last time she did. This
time she didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, you see which We'll see which kids are smarter.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Set your coffee up the night before.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's I've gotten really into coffee. To buck Sexton for
a minute, but they have a brand of Crocket coffee.
I was never a big coffee drinker. This is totally
not sponsored, by the way, but like, I've gotten super
into their Crocket coffee and I'm going to start setting
it before bed.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm in my coffee machine.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm going to try that out. I'm I'm in the
new coffee brands. We've sort of been like grabbing Duncan
when I go to Duncan to get a cold brew
and it's just like it's fun.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Really, Crockett's been life changing. Again, I'm not sponsored, totally,
just believe in it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So all right, I'm gonna buy Crockett. You start setting
it up the night before and come on, we can
circle back and see how it turned out. For both
of us.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
We're gonna have to come on after you publish your.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Healthcare books, so maybe before that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Thank you so much for coming on. He is Tim Brice,
check him out as Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Thank you so much, Tim, Thanks Carol,
Ks.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Carol Marcowitch Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
My guest today is Tim Rice. Tim is deputy managing
editor at The Daily Wire.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hi, Tim, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hey, Carol, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Tell me about your path to becoming the deputy managing
editor at Daily Wire.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Did you always want to be in media?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, so it's funny. I kind of took a circuitous
path to where I am, but I did citus. Yeah,
all right. When I was in college, I really wanted
to work in media, and I actually had internships at
Believe it or Not, MSNBC and CBS News in New York.
I was played for a slightly different team then. But
(00:46):
you know, after I graduated, it became clear to me
two things. One was that there weren't a ton of
jobs to get in TV news, and the other is
that most of the jobs that were available I didn't
really want. So I wound up kind of weirdly after
a couple of months at home and sort of trying
to take the next job that came my way. I
(01:06):
took a job as a project manager at the Manhattan Institute,
working on the health policy team, and that was just
sort of like a roll of the dice. I was
this was the kind of the beginning of the campus
free speech stuff, and that was the first thing that
really sort of got me thinking that I was maybe
interested in a more conservative kind of politics. You know.
(01:27):
I wasn't necessarily there yet on economic matters or things
like that, but I thought this was really bad, Like, yeah,
this is really bad. And being on a college campus
where fortunately we didn't have that happen at holy Cross
where I went, but it felt like very it felt
very close to home, you know, because I was like, oh,
if this happened here, that would be bad. So it
turned out though that I kind of enjoyed health policy,
(01:50):
and the more I was exposed to, you know, all
the great thinkers and ideas that happening, the more I
realized that this was where, uh, sort of my intellectual
and political home was. And also around that time, I
started writing and editing. I was helping scholars write off eds.
I started eventually publishing under my own name, and that's
really what I thought, Okay, this is something that I
(02:12):
want to do. I moved to Washington was working at
a small consulting firm in Georgetown for a little bit
so that was sort of like Peelly. That was my
real crucible moment. I was just faking through copy all
the time, still trying to do my own thing. Spent
the smallest little bit of time in the first Trump administration.
I joined I think the second week of July twenty
(02:33):
twenty and then just ran out of the clock at
the Office of Personnel Management. So that was fun. And
then right when I was I worked up until the
last day the Friday before Inauguration Day, and I actually
at the time that I started talking to the Washington
Free Beacon they were looking to hire an editor, and
I actually left oh pm on my last the last
day of the Trump administration, I walked outside and sat
(02:55):
on a park bench across the street and I called
to accept my job there. Started out as an associate
editor there was there for about four years, left as
the senior editor. And yeah, it's been just about a
year since I joined the Wire and it's been fantastic.
It's a very great uh, it's a really awesome publication,
as hopefully many of your listeners know, and a really
cool team, and it's an exciting moment. We're actually opening
(03:19):
a DC bureau. We're days away from opening the brick
and mortar. So in addition to my deputy managerial duties,
I'm also going to be heading up the DC office,
which we're hoping to grow and expand at the moment.
And yeah, we can boast that we have our White
House correspondent, Mary Margaret Olhan.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Who is amazing on the show's been on the program.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
She's everywhere, all all the time, all at once. Whatever
that movie was, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That movie was not good, but yes, but Mary Margaret
is very.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Good right now. It's it's she and I just sort
of trying to put some roots down here in d C.
But yeah, so kind of a crazy journey from MSNBC
to Daily wires Man in DC in the swamp, but uh,
it's been it's been a pretty fantastic, uh journey so far.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, we're very glad to have you on the right.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So do you feel like you have a beat, like
is there are there kind of topics that you.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Are more interested in than others?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Well, in terms of my interests, I'm still kind of
and we don't really do a ton of this. We're
trying to. We're doing a little bit more of it now,
but I mean, I'm still like a diet in the
whole healthcare guy. That's like me personally, I would say,
in terms of policy issues, that's what I sort of
gravitated you. In addition to more just sort of like
general culture things. And I don't write a ton what
(04:40):
I do. Uh, that's actually not even really true anymore.
I do write more for the Wire just because we're
constantly cracking things out. But you know, for the longest time,
if I would write, I would just sort of write
like more human interest pieces or you know, sort of
general cultural commentary. But no, in terms of my actual job,
I just really it's me and and my my good
friend Brent Shirr, who's our or in chief.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, I think it's also been on the show.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And if not, no, he hasn't. I've tried. Yeah, he's
very hard to get.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
As you can work. We can work on that, but
pretty much, and of course, you know, a million other people.
We have a whole stable of editors, but Brett and
I just sort of anything, Yeah, it's printed on the
website goes at the at least at some point through
one of us. Again in addition to a gazillion other people.
So yeah, No, I don't really see myself as having it.
(05:26):
My beat is whatever my writers are doing right at
the moment. And so at the beacon that was I had.
By the time I was gone, I covered everything because
I had writers who were our court reporters are science reporters, education,
foreign policy, investigative reporters. And now it's the same thing.
We've got some great investigative reporters are just doing you know,
(05:50):
whatever crazy things they can come up with, Like Luke
Rosiac is an absolute killer. I don't even know what
Luke does or how he does it. I just know
that it's awesome, and I let him cook. And we've
got Mary Margaret and the White House. We've got folks
covering foreign policy, education, social issues, so I mean, yeah,
it's it's honestly. One of my favorite things about the
job is that every single day is different. It's just
(06:12):
a constant different permutations of you know, who's working on
what and what's happening in the news. And you know,
I hate long term projects. I've never been a fan
of long term projects. I hate.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
This is a perfect job for you, right.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You're fifteen more days until that's due or until that
event like this is really just right to do.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right now, it's out in an.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Hour, and then it's basically irrelevant by the time it's published. Starting.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I find it really difficult when I write for places
that have a long lead time. Having said that, this
show has a long lead time, so this will be
out in a few weeks, but I really it's very
hard for me to like wait for my piece to
come out, and if it's like a week or something,
that's just it's tough for sure. So you're a healthcare
policy guy, I feel like that's an undercovered topic on
(06:59):
the right, and I think that there could be so
much more on it. What do you think is undercovered
or do you find it undercovered as well?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, one thousand percent. It's I talk about this a lot.
And you know, if you think back to right before
the twenty sixteen presidential election, right where everything sort of
got upended for good reasons and bad reasons, right, the
good reasons being you know, sort of the shift in
President Trump coming in and kind of upsetting the status quo,
and you know, things kind of you know, a lot
(07:28):
of things come into a head and the bad ways
of just all of a sudden the main issue on
Democrats kind of polarizing everything. Like the biggest issue that
everyone was talking about in September twenty sixteen was EpiPen prisis.
Bernie was going crazy. People were defended. We had all
these different bills. We were talking about Obamacare m It
was huge, and there were, of course, like good ideas
and stupid ideas, weird ideas, but it was a really
(07:51):
pretty productive policy conversation if you go back and look
at the things people were debating. Things got weird in
the first Trump administration because the president and his team
sort of started trying out things that had been kind
of the purview of the left, and then letdn't really
know what to do with that, so don't. Yeah, they
still don't. They stopped talking about it, and then COVID happened,
(08:13):
and then for about five minutes, Republicans were like, see
big pharma, We've been telling you for years, it's great.
But then that flipped and now and then Democrats were
pro big pharma, and now nobody's pro big pharma, right,
and no one wants to talk about health insurance, and
we're kind of having a good conversation about Medicaid now
but yeah, so, I mean those are I sort of
think of it in those three buckets. I think of entitlements,
(08:35):
the prices, and just insurance in general, and I think
it's all undercovered. I think that there is.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is it because people just don't have like the background information,
Like I feel like a lot of stories on it
would need a lot of like how we got here,
like why things are the way they are.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Here's a whole book you can read about it.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I think that's part of it, And especially because like
even the a couple of years where no one was
talking about it, Like I'm sure that if I called
my interns right now and ask them about like Obamacare,
they wouldn't even think. Whereas, like, you know, I feel
like I sometimes still think of Obamacare as this new
thing that we should fight. It's been what fifty ten years,
eleven years since.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I still think we should fight it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like wow, accepting this, And it's like,
you know, my interns probably like basically grew up in
a world with Obamacare, right, So I do think that's
part of it. I think another part of it is
that healthcare is other than education. Healthcare is one of
the most personal policy areas. At some point, all of
us are going to go through the healthcare system, just
(09:37):
like all of us have gone through the education system,
and it obviously can be more painful, and it's it's
I don't want to I don't want to diminish education policy, certainly,
but like there is it's easier to channel anger when right,
like you figure out what your kids are learning, and
then it's like there's obviously like a lot that we
have to do, but there's a very quick first step,
which is like fire the teachers, right, we'll homeschool your kids,
(10:00):
or we got to fix like we know where to
stop it with healthcare because it's so multifascinated. I think
that same impulse, right, like so much political interest, so
much of what drives policy is when does this affect me?
And how moved am I am? To fight it? Right,
But it's hard to then latch onto it, like what's
the problem. Is it big pharma? Is it the insurance companies?
(10:21):
Is it the government? I mean the answer is yes,
it's all of that and it's all locked. But so
I think it's hard and then people start be the
over emphasize like this is why, and there's a lot
of good stuff with the MAHA movement. Yeah, I think
you know, I would love I'll just say this, I
would love if the MAHA guys talked a little bit
about more of the structural problems about entitlement reform, about
(10:42):
things like that instead of just like, yeah, ban red
dye number forty, make sure the meat is better, encourage
people to exercise and live healthy lifestyles. Fantastic, But like,
what about medicaid? What about all these insane things going
through Obamacare? What about bringing back some of the twenty
seventeen Trump era insurance regulations? What about coming up with
a vision for what our healthcare system looks like? Because yeah,
(11:04):
you can make people so healthy, you really can. But like,
people are still going to get sick, people are still
going to die, people are still going to get hurt.
People are always going to need to go to hospitals,
see doctors, take drugs, and pay for all of it.
And we have yet to figure out how to do
any of that. And so I do think that that
is still something that you know, is not necessarily covered
(11:26):
as much as it should be, And I definitely think
that it should be talked about more for you, Like,
I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Just heard a book pitch, and I expect your next
appearance on the show, I'm going to be talking about
the book that all my listeners should buy because this
is I agree. I think this needs to all be
you know, it needs to be covered more extensively, and
I think you're the man to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I I nominate you, I accept, I accept. If there
are any publishers listening, you can fill there are, Yeah, sure,
I'm sure I've got the pitch somewhere in a Google doc.
It's it. I clearly think about this a lot. So
it's so.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Funny because you know, I've follow you on X and
I really thought you were going to say that your
beat or your like topic, that you're really interested in culture,
Like you seem like you're a culture guy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I mean that's define.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think I didn't picture healthcare wonk.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You know I contain multitudes, you know this?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, also, no one, I mean, look, no one cares
what you tweet about health policy. There used to be
a really good there used to be like a really
good section on X of like healthcare guys. And no,
there's none of them use it anymore. They're all either
like retired this on Blue Sky or they're just like
completely given up because it's not fun anymore. But yeah, no,
I would say the culture stuff is absolutely Also, it's
(12:39):
interesting that you say that. I I'm glad that comes across.
I guess that is what I what I mostly post about.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, we're going to take a quick break and be
right back on the Carol Markowitch Show.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What do you worry about?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I used to worry about everything. I'm a very a
very anxious person by nature. Really, yeah, I not in
like a crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Like I don't.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Know, but I was always like there was I used
to just I don't know I was. I'm an overthinker
or a worrier, I'm not sure. And I say used
to because I have an almost two year old daughter.
My daughter is going to be two in a couple
of weeks, and I have twins on the way. Wowk wow,
so's thank you. Yeah. But ever since I became a dad,
(13:25):
I just worry about my kids and the future, and
like in a way that I think is much more productive.
And I'm sure as a parent, you know exactly what
I'm talking about. I mean, obviously, for the first I'm
the typical dad in that the first few months, I
was terrified and always going into Now I'm slicking my
daughter over my shoulder like a potatoes, just to like
(13:46):
care something. But I worry about I worry about my kids.
I worry about, you know, what life is going to
look like in the future, what the country is going
to look like. I want them to grow up and
be happy and healthy and all the things that every
parent wants for uh uh, you know, for the kids.
And so that's that's that's pretty much it. Yeah, And
it's funny, I don't even worry in I don't even
(14:06):
worry about raising them, Like I don't. I say that
sometimes and people, oh, no, you're you're gonna be a
great dad, and I'm like, I'm actually, I'm pretty confident
that I'm I know, yeah, my wife is going to
be is a fantastic mother. It's like, I'm not worried.
It's going to be crazy, Like having twins is going
to be insane, but I'm not worried about it because like,
what am I gonna do. I'm gonna figure it out.
They're coming. I'm worry about like down the line, and
(14:28):
you know, sometimes that veers into political things. It's definitely
made me a little bit more reactionary on some things
that I didn't care about before I had kids.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's amazing how that happens.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right suddenly you're like, wait a minute, oh this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
All of a sudden, it's like the libertarian leaving my
body when I realized, well, it doesn't affect me because
now it's it's comp.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, absolutely, I'm very libertarian adjacent, but like, having kids
definitely moves you firmly into the conservative column.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
One hundred percent. But yeah, I would say that's pretty
much it. But yeah, once you have it's really it's
it is kind of amazing. I know a lot of
you know this is we're only the only the seven
million people to talk about why everyone should have kids,
especially on the right. But yeah, you know one thing
that I feel like people certainly say it. This is
not an original thought to me, but like it really
does people put everything into perspective, Like for sure, really
(15:20):
like I'm so much happier, not just because my daughter
is just like this amazing mm hmm creature who I love,
and it's been amazing to become a father and have
a family, but like you're just so much happier because
you don't have time to be happy about things that
don't matter. Like that's it. You can just and it's like, yeah,
maybe you have like fewer concerns, but like it really
is just that simple sometimes not you sit down with
(15:43):
your husband or your wife, you have a glass of
wine or a you put on a movie, you read
a book, you go for a walk, and it's like
this is kind of it. This is this is what
it's all about. So I don't really worry about anything
anymore because it dad.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, that's that's the right perspective. I've also I've gotten
really into country music, and country music is all like
it literally is like you get married and you have
a child and you bury the dog in the backyard
and you know, and that's your life right there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And I'm like crying in my car.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's like my wife and I have a really good
friend who puts is it next thing you do? Next thing?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And you know, I can't even I like, as soon
as it comes on, I have to change it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We have a friend who puts that on like every playlist.
It's just like it won't even fit, but you know,
it'll be all like seventies like funk classics and then
that'll come on and what is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That song brings the house down for me every single time.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's just it's too much.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's like our generation's Cats in the Cradle. It's kind
of worse.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, rapid passage of time.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, And nothing really happens in that song, right, he
just lives like a normal life and he has a
you know, marries a girl and has a family. I
just nothing happens that is unbelievable or unique, and yet
it's like so powerful.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And amazing, and I can't listen to it at all.
My kids are just like, oh.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Change the song, Like Mom's gonna start crying right now.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, yeah, but it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's amazing how having kids puts everything into focus and
like how all the doom scrolling and the nonsense doesn't
matter anymore. It's I always say, it's like my husband
having you know, being in a good relationship also like
puts a force field around you, like you just don't
care about anything but the kids part for sure as well.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah. Well in marriage, it's also like it can kind
of like yes and no, because if you also are
in a good relationship that that also means that you
have someone who you can like complain to or like
talk about these things too all the time, so it's
like it's not it gets you there. And of course,
like if they're supportive, they'll talk to you. But it's
like you have someone instead of just like, you know,
kind of putting it out of your mind. Maybe I
should just talk.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Right, Yeah, But if somebody is mean to you on
the internet, you're like, I don't care, Like, yeah, my
real life is unbelievable, like.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
You for the seventy fifth.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Time this week, and awesome, it's just so good.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I have so many thoughts about the movie in Kanto.
It's my daughter's like it's the only thing that you
want to listen to. And the music is nice enough
that it's like my wife and I are happy to
throw it on in the car instead of like just
nursery rhymes. We talk a lot about in Kanto in
this house. Now. That's so good.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, that's a great movie. I you know, they really
know what they're doing over there.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, So what advice would you give your sixteen year
old self?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You have a daughter, you have two more on the way,
but when.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You think about your own life, what advice would you
give sixteen year old Tim?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, I honestly, and I mean this sort of goes
back to the answer of my last question. I would
tell sixteen year old Tim to just stop worrying so much.
You know, that was probably I would say, like, do
you worry a lot? Yeah? But again, you know, not
like I was just a very like I was. I
was like a high achieving nerd in high school, you know,
the biggest warriors.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I didn't worry that the sky was falling, but I
worried about I had a test to college getting the
right extracurricular is you know insert what am I worrying about?
Not worrying enough? Right, like, so I'm already And then
the second year, you know, I was that kid, you know,
someone else on the school paper. Oh, I got some
internship with the local paper. I'm just playing to work
as a camp counselor again all of a sudden, yeah,
(19:16):
well there goes my dream of working at the New
York Times, which you know, ol like right, like that
sort of soul, I would tell six year old Tim,
you know, stop worrying. It doesn't really matter that much.
There's no real way to know what's gonna happen, right
like I and not even like it's funny, I even
as I think about it now, I did worry about
all those things, but I wasn't I was also like
(19:37):
I wasn't I said type I actually wasn't Type A.
I was more just like I wanted to like be
the best at things, but I actually wasn't that good.
But I wasn't good at planning. So like I really
have a plan. I was like, I just want to
like get good grades so I can go to a
good college, go to a good college, and then crush
it like question, you know, it's not like and then
(19:58):
I need to be pre law.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
And I take over the world.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, basically shows holy Cross as an accident and it
was probably one of the best things that I ever did.
So like stuff like that, you know, like I had
these vacuous ideas of who I wanted to be as
an adult and what I wanted to do. And don't
think that family and kids figured into it that much.
Not in like an anti way, but because I was sixteen.
And if you're a sixteen year old boy who doesn't
grow up on country music, you know, I didn't think
(20:22):
about like having a wife and kids. I thought about
like having like cool suits and living in a party
in New York or something.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Rights exactly, yeah, like yeah, it was like, you know,
that was like peak like USA network shows about guys.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I just kind of like look cool and have awesome
jobs and make a lot of money. And I was like,
that seems good, I'll do that. Wow. The fact that
I thought journalism was the way to that sort of
point hilarious sort that And honestly this might sound cliche,
but I was, you know, I'd probably tell them to
like be do like a little fifflix, do some more
bad things like I talked to like my friends or
(20:56):
my wife, even like none of them were bad kids.
Beat oh yeah, like all the time, like snuck out
and had like a party in the woods or what. Listen.
It's not that I didn't, you know, I had. I
had an agree at high school. I was thought I
wasn't that much of a nerd. But like I probably
could have done more. I probably could have chilled out
a little. I could have cared at less about you know,
whatever I thought I was supposed to be caring about,
(21:17):
which again I think is probably like the most generic
advice that like a thirty year old guy can give
to myself. But like, you know, it's it's, uh, it's no.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I think caring less.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's funny because I've had people on the show say
that they would advise their teenage self to care more
because they didn't care a lot and they kind of
like skated through high school and maybe they should have
worked harder.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I think, you know, with the power of.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Being able to look back at what your life was,
I think.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
That people maybe just say the opposite of what they were.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was a solid B student. I didn't work at all.
There was no woods in Brooklyn, but if there were,
I would have partied in the woods.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I partied at the clubs in Manhattan instead.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But you know, I, yeah, wish I had worked a
little harder. I wish I had taken myself a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's just it's it's the opposite of whatever you did, really.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Exactly, and that's that's not a sign of like that
it turned out okay, right, yeah, exactly if you hadn't
worked hard and like had partied in the clubs in Manhattan.
But it all went badly for you, Like you wouldn't
be saying like I probably should have you. You'd either
be like constructing a mental castle around why it actually
turned out right, or you'd just be like devastated, but
it worked out for you for me right.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like Herope for me right if it has not, well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sixteen year old Tam should have like chilled out and
like I don't know, like you know, stolen beer from
somebody's garage.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Or something like, yes, sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I probably did. I probably kept out a good path
that it probably helped. But like you know, you know,
that's the luxury that we have now.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
We're gonna take a quick break and be right back
on the Carol Marcowitch Show.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, I love this conversation. You are awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Really, I feel like I got to know you leave
us here with your best tip for my listeners on
how they can improve their lives.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
No drink water. I don't have good.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Probably you know again, it doesn't have to be like,
you know, some deep advice.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I would say.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
One of the most popular pieces of advice on the
show is Buck Sexton and my very first episode said
read before bed, and so many people refer to it
when they when they messaged me, they say, oh, I
started reading before bed and it's gotten so good.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Drink more water.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I like it, honestly, that's I do. I have a
drink more water, drinking water, big on hydration. But here's
my actual answer, which is, uh, if you make coffee
at home, which probably should set your coffee up the
night before, set it up the night before.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I don't do that, but I always think I should set.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It up the night before. It's way easier. It's even
better if you don't have a grinder. Get the grinder.
That'll incentivize you to do it, because like you don't
want the loud noise in the morning, you do it
at night. You set it up. There's nothing better than
just tumbling downstairs and flicking the switch on. This is
something that my wife and I learned so smart. Yeah,
one of our very best friend's parents. That was like
(24:09):
their advice to us when we got married, and that's
what they to this day still do. And like when
we stay in their house, last person to go to
bed has to set the coffee up for the morning after.
And it is an absolute game changer. Even though really, yeah,
six months pregnant. She's not drinking coffee, but I still
like there are some days where I think I can
say I.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Drank coffee the whole way through three pregnancies, like you
worried about it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
This is more honor she last time she did. This
time she didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, you see which We'll see which kids are smarter.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Set your coffee up the night before.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's I've gotten really into coffee. To buck Sexton for
a minute, but they have a brand of Crocket coffee.
I was never a big coffee drinker. This is totally
not sponsored, by the way, but like, I've gotten super
into their Crocket coffee and I'm going to start setting
it before bed.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm in my coffee machine.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm going to try that out. I'm I'm in the
new coffee brands. We've sort of been like grabbing Duncan
when I go to Duncan to get a cold brew
and it's just like it's fun.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Really, Crockett's been life changing. Again, I'm not sponsored, totally,
just believe in it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So all right, I'm gonna buy Crockett. You start setting
it up the night before and come on, we can
circle back and see how it turned out. For both
of us.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
We're gonna have to come on after you publish your.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Healthcare books, so maybe before that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Thank you so much for coming on. He is Tim Brice,
check him out as Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Thank you so much, Tim, Thanks Carol,
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