In this episode, Lisa and Fox News analyst Gianno Caldwell expose Chicago’s escalating crime crisis, highlighting shocking statistics and the devastating impact on families. They criticize Democrat leaders like Mayor Brandon Johnson and Governor JB Pritzker for downplaying the violence and prioritizing politics over public safety. The discussion covers failed progressive policies, the erosion of law enforcement, and the need for tough, law-and-order solutions—such as President Trump’s proposal to deploy the National Guard. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we cut
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we're joined by one of my best friends. He's also
a Fox News political analyst, Jihanno Caldwell. We'll talk about
the spiraling crime crisis in Chicago, a city that's really
under siege from violence. We'll dive into President Trump's bold
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proposal to send potentially send in the National Guard to
try to restore some order, and will debate what it
means for our communities and for the country. Plus I'll
talk to Giano about his powerful new book, The Day
My Brother Was Murdered, where he shares his personal journey
through America's violent crime epidemic and about the night he
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lost his little brother, Christian, who is murdered in Chicago. Plus,
we'll talk to Giano about his powerful new book, The
Day My Brother was Murdered, sharing his personal journey through
America's violent crime epidemic after losing his little brother, Christian,
who was murdered in Chicago. Now, the book tells the
story wories of other families around the country who also
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lost loved ones, whose loved ones were murdered the same
night that he lost Christian. So we'll get to the
truth of all of this with my dear friend John Caldwell.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Stay tuned, Gianna. It's great to have you on my friends.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Wish it was about a better topic than this, but
I appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
To come on, my friend.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It is.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It is always my pleasure to be on with you,
my very dear friend, And certainly this topic is something
that I think for a lot of people causes stress,
especially knowing the city that we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But glad to dive into this.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know, I think it's hard for a lot of
people to understand. I mean, you look at Chicago just
over Labor Day weekend, fifty four people shot seven fatally.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, if you don't live in a.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Major city like Chicago, or a city with as high
as a murder rate of Chicago, like, you really don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Tell us about, like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What is it like to Obviously you're from Chicago, you
don't live there anymore, but what is it like for
the citizens of Chicago, you know, every weekend when you
look at numbers like that, fifty four people shot seven fatally.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
To be honest with you, I'm very much concerned with
my family who still lived there. You know, I've moved
the number of folks out of Chicago, but not everyone
is so willing to go.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And the fact of.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
The matter is, the scary part of it is walking
outside of your house every day to do something as
simple as go to school. For these children, it's a nightmare.
They don't know if they're returning back home. The parents
don't know if they're returning back home or going to
the grocery store or something that a person that may
be listening does on an everyday basis.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They may take a walk in their community.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, you're not doing anything that you would think
is super were dangerous, But that is the fear that
many people in Chicago live with on a daily basis.
Just imagine all these people who were shot over the weekend.
These people have families. These folks have a lot of folks.
I'm sure they care about them and that are concerned
with their well being, but their.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Families have been impacted.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And I can almost assure you that out of these
fifty plus people that were shot over the weekend, this
isn't the first.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Time that their families have experienced that. I can imagine
there's people in that.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Bunch who had multiple people in their families shot in
or murdered, and that tends to be the reality for
a lot of folks that live in the city of Chicago.
So when Brandon Johnson or Governor JB. Pritzker say there's
no crime here, there's no issue, there's no crisis, they're
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lying to people's faces. They're lying to the victims of
islent crime who've experienced these tragedies.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And know them all to well.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
They're lying to the citizens who have been demanding justice
from them and members of the Democratic Party for many,
many years. They're lying to the national media, and they're lying.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
To themselves if they actually believe that.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You know, I saw an interview with Pritzker recently, and
you know, he was asked about the the shootings over
the weekend of Labor Day, and he was like, yeah, well,
you know, like every major city has crime, but not
like Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I guess, how do we get to this point where.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like a politician, a governor like Pritzker is just not
concerned about such substantial loss of human life.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
May what it tends to be.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I think these and oftentimes you know this least I
know this too. The perpetrator and the victim are oftentimes black.
When you just look at the pure numbers, and this
is the same group of people who've yelled out black
lives matter, and they honestly don't give a damn. Black
lives don't matter to them. It's the black votes that
matter to them, and they've made that the focal point
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for many of these conversations is about elections. How can
they win, how can they get more black folks to
support Democrats when democrats are creating the most damage to
the communities in which they say they care the most about.
You know, you look at the numbers in terms of
education in Chicago and across the state of Illinois as
an example, you have dozens of schools where not one
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single student can read or write a grade level, can
do math at grade level. And that's that's a deficit,
not just for the people of those particular areas in
those in those cities Chicago and elsewhere in Illinois, but
the entire nation. Our treasurer is and our children more
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more often than not, you want to build a generation
is going to make life better for the generation that
came before them.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know, our seniors our mothers, our grandmothers. Those are
very important people.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But you also got to have that same kind of
pride when it comes to these children.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And right now they're not even able to go get educated.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
In schools because they are afraid of what may happen
to them when they leave in trying to get back home.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
This is a this is this is a national crisis,
you know.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And to the point about the numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know, Chicago had five hundred and seventy three murders
in twenty twenty four, compared to three hundred and seventy
seven for New York City and two hundred and sixty
eight for Los Angeles, just as a point of comparison
to two other, you know, major cities. You talked about
how you know, these politicians say things like black lives matter,
but then you know, allow so many black people to
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get murdered in their cities and in their states. Then
why do they say black lives matter if they don't
mean it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, it's for politics, the rationale behind it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I believe what the Democrats have taken up this banter
not because they believe black lives actually matter, but because
they want to stay in power. This is about power,
and it's always been. If you look at Illinois, they
have a supermajority in their general assemblies, the House, in
the Senate, they have. All constitutional offices are ran by
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the Democrats. All but three congressional offices out of the
seventeen are ran by the Democrats. They will jerry mander
the hell out of anything to retain power. And they
know that they've been losing a grip on the black community,
not just in Illinois but nationally.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So what do they do.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
They jump on these bandwagons for them, it doesn't really
mean anything. It doesn't cost anything as popular as trendy
for them with no policy to support it. If black
lives really and truly matter, then you wouldn't eliminate cash
beil If black lives truly and legitimately matter, you would.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Be tougher on crime.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
You would be much, much much tougher on crime, and
you would ensure that those individuals who are out here
committing these atrocities are held responsible and publicly so. But
that's not what they're willing to do. We see this
across the nation. They're willing to jump on the bandwagon
of illegal migrants that have come into our country. Who've
committed crimes who President Trump has said, no, you shouldn't
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be here, you need to go home, and when it's
time to send them home, all of a sudden, oh no, uh,
we got to keep this person here.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
This is one of the one of the good ones.
You mean, the guy who raped.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
A little girl, or the guy who murdered someone, or
the guy who came over and he.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Set selling fitnel to our people, which is killing.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Them in droves. These are the people you want to defend.
These are posted children that you want to you want
to get behind.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's asinine.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Got to take a quick commercial break more with Gianno.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
On the other side, you lost Christian, little brother, Christian
just eighteen years old. Obviously, there are seven families without
a loved one after the Labor Day weekend. How much
of this comes down to, like some of these politicians
like Pritzker obviously he's like incredibly rich, or even you
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know Brandon Johnson, you know, you know how much of
this is because you know, like Brandon Johnson, I would
assume he's got security detail.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm not actually sure.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No he does. He does, yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So how much of this is because these politicians are
sort of like right, it's not their family member, it's
not someone that they know personally, like their personal lives
have not been impacted. How much of this comes down
to that, Like you know, they can push these policies
because they're insulated from the consequences of them.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, we've largely seen that for many who are
saying to defund the police back in twenty twenty, but
they hit their own police force of private securities.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And certainly for people like Brandon Johnson or JB. Pritzker
who are protected. They are like the officials that have
their own security, but JB. Prisker can afford his own
with or without being governor.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
They don't understand the realities that people everyday people, the
working people that they claim the support. They don't know
the realities that they're living through. They don't know, they
don't care. They're insulated. To your point, they're very much insulated.
So what do they do.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
They push out policies that should be supportive of these
particular communities, but they are not. Brandon Johnson couldn't tell
Joe Scarborough or MSNBC the truth, which is five thousand
police would help the city of Chicago without a question.
So many people left after the defunded police movement. So
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many people retired after they've seen the disrespect that was
being handed down by our elected officials and the handcuffing
of police.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So yes, many have left, leaving vacancies of thousands. So
five thousand police officers would make a tremendous difference in
the city.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Of Chicago, especially if they're not handcuffing the police. So yeah,
they can speak from their ivory towers. They can they
can make these commentary, make this commentary that everything gets
okay in these communities. Well, you don't live there and
you don't really know, and if you actually cared, you
would say, yes, send the we need President Trump's help.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Let's partner with him. Federal resources, let's do.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It, d O J atf DEA, FBI, let's get them
in there.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Let's work together and partner. It.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
May not agree with him on everything, and I can
understand that that's how our politics works.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I get that. But to say that you don't.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Want to get the support of the federal government, somebody
who surely wants to help the city in Chicago, unlike
President Barack Obama. This tells you how far how death
they are to the reasonable calls from citizens in the
state of Illinois and in the city of Chicago begging
for help, saying we need to get President Trump here.
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Regardless of what the elected officials have said, they've totally failed.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know, and you look at what's happened in DC
since the President declared a crime emergency there in our
nation's capital. You know, violent crime has fallen by carjackings
are down eighty seven percent will compare to the same
period in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So clearly enforcement work. Yeah, right, and it's like it's
really cool.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So why is that such a difficult concept for some
of these people to understand? If you enforce the laws,
people are going to commit less crimes.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, because the woke left has painted them in a corner.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
They made them believe that justice for the criminal was
much more important than justice for the citizen. They they've
fallen into the trap of the progressive left, which said
that they were going to take the Democratic Party in
that direction. You remember what they said about Joe Biden.
They said that they were going to drag him far
to the left, which they did successfully. I may add
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but that's also dragged a lot of other Democratic leaders
to the left as well.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
If you can consider them leaders, I should say.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So they're falling for the trap which is going to
get them pushed out of office.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Brandon Johnson is the lowest approved mayor in Chicago history. JB.
Prisker has a lot of.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Issues, even though I know he's going to try to
buy his way into a re elect campaign because he
needs to stay around long enough so he can try
to run.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
For president, which I think is going to be a
loser for him.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But this is where they are right now, and this
is where the Democratic Party is right now too.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Those black lives that they claim that mattered.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
For many, many years, we're seeing the policy specifics, the
endangerment to these communities based on what those what that
rhetoric was, We're seeing it play out. Who comes up
with a Safety Act, which is the bill that they
use to eliminate cash Bell in Illinois. We're seeing multiple
people who are getting arrested for various and they're getting out.
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I saw a publication just today where they were saying,
this is our sixth time writing about this individual committing crimes,
but he's been let out six times. You know, they're
not holding these folks accountable, and people are waking up
to the realities of it. And my hope is that
it doesn't become too late for some family who could
lose a loved one because of this inaction and destructive
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policies being pushed by the least.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You know, I believe Obama for a lot of this because,
like especially with Michael Brown. You know, his own Justice
department determined that Michael Brown was the one that you know,
he robbed the store and then he reached for the
police officer's gun and there was a scuffle that ensued,
and his Department of Justice determined that Michael Brown was
actually the one and the wrong and scared officer Wilson.
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Yet he continued to cast doubt on it. He even
prior to that was really you know, pushing the whole
like cands up, don't shoot narrative of Michael Brown. Then
it led to the Black Lives Matter movement, and it's
sort of like set off this discord in the country
and like kind of appended or criminal justice system where
you know, police officers then had a target in their
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own backs.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And then his own chief of staff mayor or you know,
and former Mayor Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And Maynoeld Chicago would eventually say that police officers were
in the fetal position since Ferguson because they're so afraid
to do their jobs.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So, I mean, do you blame Obama or you know,
I don't know what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No? No, I mean I do agree with you largely,
and I think many people in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Agree with you on that that sentiment as well, because
I think it's even it's even deeper than that, because
to your point, it did create this narrative that police officers, especially.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Around this time, were just bad people.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And I know that that's been a narrative that's been
going around for a long time, but we never had
a United States president really submit that sentiment for a
lot of folks, so people felt in the right to
be pushing back against police, and Mindrew doesn't. This is
no respect to any bad apples in any police department
who doesn't follow procedure or has proper conduct. I'm talking
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about good police officers, good police who do their job
every day with integrity and character, and they're here to
serve and protect those men and women. By President Barack
Obama and many Democrats since then have cast down doubts on.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
The good intentions of policing.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Those are the ones like the New York City Democrats
socialist candidate for mayor who says he said that he
wanted to defund the police, voted for it, and now
he's kind of had a little bit of a change
of tune, which we know his real interest is defunding
the police and putting social social workers in that place.
This is created that kind of casting, if you will,
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which is disenfranchised citizens everywhere, no matter what color.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Quick break.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
If you're enjoying the episode, please share on social media
or maybe send it to a friend. You had mentioned
previously that you know you hope no other families experienced
the kind of loss that you've experienced, and that you
know families over labor d weekend experience just in Chicago alone.
I know in your book the day my brother was murdered,
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you tell the stories of other families who lost what
loved ones, whose loved ones were murdered.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The same night that Christian was murdered.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
How hard was it to write that book and obviously
relived the night that you lost Christian, but then also
to hear these stories of other people who have faced
the same kind of pain that your family has and
that you have.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
It was it was in many many ways tough.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean like it was.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It was really heartbreaking for me and spend many times
in tears just by not just only recounting the facts
around Christian's murder on June twenty fourth, twenty twenty two,
but also these other families. And you know, I wrote
this book today my brother was murdered, my journey through
America's violent crime crisis, because I wanted to put a
face to a crisis that I think has affected families
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of all of all levels. We're talking about black, White, Hispanic,
and other. No matter what your political party is Democrat, Republican,
are independent, everyone has been impacted by the crime crisis
in this country and one shape or another. And I
think it's extraordinarily important to say that as a country,
we need to solve this issue. I don't think it's
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just an issue for black folks to solve, or white
folks or Hispanics, or as a United States of America,
we all need to get on board.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
With solving this issue.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I live in Miami, Florida, right now, very peaceful, very safe.
I can walk down the streets and not have to
look over my shoulder, and it feels good to not
have that kind of pressure. But I remember when I
used to have to live in that scenario when I
was in Chicago, even living downtown Chicago. The reality is
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just the same. In the book, I talk about people
like James, who was an army veteran who would often
times go to a park at one or two in
the morning because in the military he got PTSD can sleep.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And it was a group of kids there. We're talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Thirteen year old twelve eleven in this park, and he says, so,
what are you doing here? You should be at home,
and they beat him to death for the traffic home.
I was reading just today stories from people in Chicago
who were saying, you know, there's a major concern here
because there's eight year olds that walk around with guns.
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Eight years old, Lisa, It's true.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I've heard these stories many, many times. Eight year old.
You see Judge.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Jani talking about Washington d on how she cannot prosecute
teenagers because of the laws there, and we're talking about
people who even younger than.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Teenage who also had guns in DC. So it's not just.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
A Chicago issue, although you know obviously you know it
happens more there, and it is the murder capital largely
President Trump causes the murder capital of the world, but
it certainly has bigger numbers than New York and Los
Angeles are major major cities in the country, and this.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Is an issue.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I think that the country has to stand up and
say enough is enough. Yes, President Trump going to these
communities help fix it. But yeah, elected officials who have
been voted in you must work with him because you've
not offered us any solutions whatsoever. You've only made matters
worse with your policy failures. And that's a conversation we
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all must be having. And that includes folks who may
have been Democrats their entire lives, knowing that that party
does not support them. Their party is not about the
working class anymore. It's about the elites. It's about the
billionaire class. That's who they serve. They need to say
enough is enough of voting for those folks and vote
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for Republicans, even if you even if it's a race
that they may not win. You need to send a
loud and clear message to the Democratic Party that you
failed us decade after decade, and we won't take it enough,
won't take it at all anymore, I should say, And
I'm reminded of what President Trump said, what do you
have to lose? You know that that that campaign that
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is yes speech. What do you have to lose? The
schools are bad, true, the crime is bad true? What
do you have to lose by giving Trump a chance? Well,
we see what we have to gain, because he just did.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It in DC.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The National Guard would be more limited going into Chicago
if he were to send them, just because it's not
a federal city exactly. And you know he's able to
control the dec Metropolitan police in DC, but he wouldn't
be able to do that with Chicago's police. Do you
think it would still help for him, like the presence
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alone or what do you think he should do? You know,
because obviously there's been a lot of resistance from Pritzker
and Brandon Johnson saying that this is you know, unconstitutional,
or that it's a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, over the weekend they were just having protests anti
Trump protests, And the way it appears to me is
that JB. Prisker and Brandon Johnson are looking to frame
this in such a way that if Trump does come,
he's giving the citizens permission to push back on the
National Guard, if that would be what it is, whatever
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the federal response is, and whatever the federal presence is,
I think what they would like to see is chaos
in the street. They wanted to see George Floyd all
over again. That is the goal, and that's what they
were hoping for in DC. But to that point, the
presence in DC has certainly reduced crime. The criminals are
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hide in the way and they have arrested a number
of criminals. That would be very effective for Chicago to
take some of these people off the street.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But the thing is how do you prosecute them? Is
the question?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Are you prosecuting them through the DOJ or you prosecuting
them through the Cook County the Cook County Prosecutor's office.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Is the Safety Act going to.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Apply the elimination of cash bail where they can just
get put just recycled back onto the streets. Those are
I think questions that need to be answered, and the
federal presence have to be a bit more descriptive as
to what we would be looking to see and I
think that's kind of what they're working on now. But
it's going to be a little more difficult to work
on it, especially if you don't have the local partnership
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from the governor and the mayor, because they refuse to
accept the help because they know that it would make
such a drastic difference that Trump would get the credit
for it, and people will say, well, Trump is right,
we need to invite this into our city.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Because Chicago is the postal trial for the worst, rand,
most corrupt, and criminal haven.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I think of any city in the country right now,
we've had the most politicians go to jail, governors, mayors,
any form of elected officials. We've had the most crime
of just about any major city that you can think of,
most murders. I believe this is about one hundred and
fifty thousand crimes committed thus far this year.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's serious. That's pretty serious stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
So you know, if you're able to make a difference
in Chicago like you did in DC, then the Democrats
are put out of business.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You're thinking about running or really start entertaining the idea
of potentially running for Senate in Illinois.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Do you think a Republican can win.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
My hope is that a Republican can win in Illinois,
and a Republican should win in Illinois. We know that
most voters are looking for results the Democrats haven't delivered
on that.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I feel like we're going to have a law and
order mid term election.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Durwn just decided that he's not going to run again,
which essentially makes it an open seat. I spoke at
Illinois Stay Fair for a Republican Day, and there, immediately
after I spoke is the keynote speaker, there was a
camera in my face asking if I was running for
US Senate, and that started a lot of the conversation
around the potentiality of me running. I've heard from folks
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both nationally and locally on the grounds who are very
excited and interested in me running, and they believe that
I am the guy to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now. I am absolutely seriously exploring this.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
As an option and an opportunity to serve my home state.
But if I don't run, I'm still going to be
very focused on insuring whoever does run as an opportunity
to win that race, whether that be me, you know,
just campaigning on ground, knocking on doors, making phone calls
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for that person or speaking at their events. This is
a state that Republicans must win, and we must have
someone in that office that can work with this administration
because I believe that the Trump two point zero number
forty seven is the best administration that we've ever seen,
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and they're willing to do things that I think Democrats
would love to have done. They would have loved to
have taken over DC. And you know, I guess I
should say the old Democratic Party, old Democratic Party would
have loved that made a difference on crime, because remember,
crime used to be an issue that every party was
concerned about, just like border security was one that everybody
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was every party was concerned about. You see what Obama
said on it, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. These used to
not be polarizing issues. Everybody agreed. We need safety, security,
we need our nation's sovereignty not to be viol need.
Those are things that we all agreed on. It was
just the abortion and maybe taxes was the biggest consideration
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between two parties. But now we're so far apart on
these issues. Republicans are more in line with what the
citizens want, no matter what that issue might be.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Biological men and women's sports.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Republicans won't want that, but based on a polling, most
Americans don't want that, including a majority of Democrats don't
want that, and I believe about sixty percent.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So there's a lot of issues that I.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Think we can tackle, and we need representation in the
state of Illinois that can actually work with this administration
to get things done for the state, and right now
that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Exist, you know, and I know that you're working on
all these issues too at the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety,
trying to push for policies that would reduce crime in
a lot of these places like Chicago and support people
who want to enforced the law.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I would encourage people to go to call Well
Institute dot org support our efforts or call well Safety
dot org for our foundation, a call Oh Foundation for
Public Safety. And I can't thank you enough for hosting
our event in mar A Lago. You did a fantastic job,
and you know, the word is out. We want to
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disrupt the violent crime and the crime crisis that has
been going on in our country and that for what
we do with the Callal Institute for Public Safety is
around the elected officials who held these offices, whether they
be progressive prosecutors funded by George Sores, or they're the
far left folks of the Democratic Party and narrow rolls
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the gubernatorial roles, or honestly, the whole Democratic Party is
pretty far left at this particular point. So we wanted
to make an impact after my brother was murdered in
the city of Chicago, and this is my way of
paying his legacy forward. And I'm so honored to partner
with you go on this.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Lisa Well, Joanna Clubwell, you're one of my best friends.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You're basically a family.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You're my family too.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm proud of you obviously, I've you know, seen were
new and and you know was there and saw the
pain that you went through and still are going through
with losing Christian. So I'm just I'm really proud of
you for taking something that uh, you know, most people
will never experience that kind of pain, uh, and turning
it into a motivating force to try to make sure
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other people don't have to feel that kind of pain.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So proud to my friend. Thanks for making the time.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Thank you, Bessie. I'm always appreciative to join you on
your platform. Thank you for the opportunity that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Was Jihano Caldwell.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Appreciate him for taking the time to come on the show.
Push you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You can listen throughout the week.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I also want to thank my producer John Cassiope putting
a show together.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Until next time,
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we cut
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we're joined by one of my best friends. He's also
a Fox News political analyst, Jihanno Caldwell. We'll talk about
the spiraling crime crisis in Chicago, a city that's really
under siege from violence. We'll dive into President Trump's bold
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proposal to send potentially send in the National Guard to
try to restore some order, and will debate what it
means for our communities and for the country. Plus I'll
talk to Giano about his powerful new book, The Day
My Brother Was Murdered, where he shares his personal journey
through America's violent crime epidemic and about the night he
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lost his little brother, Christian, who is murdered in Chicago. Plus,
we'll talk to Giano about his powerful new book, The
Day My Brother was Murdered, sharing his personal journey through
America's violent crime epidemic after losing his little brother, Christian,
who was murdered in Chicago. Now, the book tells the
story wories of other families around the country who also
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lost loved ones, whose loved ones were murdered the same
night that he lost Christian. So we'll get to the
truth of all of this with my dear friend John Caldwell.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Stay tuned, Gianna. It's great to have you on my friends.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Wish it was about a better topic than this, but
I appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
To come on, my friend.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It is.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It is always my pleasure to be on with you,
my very dear friend, And certainly this topic is something
that I think for a lot of people causes stress,
especially knowing the city that we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
But glad to dive into this.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know, I think it's hard for a lot of
people to understand. I mean, you look at Chicago just
over Labor Day weekend, fifty four people shot seven fatally.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know, if you don't live in a.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Major city like Chicago, or a city with as high
as a murder rate of Chicago, like, you really don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Tell us about, like.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
What is it like to Obviously you're from Chicago, you
don't live there anymore, but what is it like for
the citizens of Chicago, you know, every weekend when you
look at numbers like that, fifty four people shot seven fatally.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
To be honest with you, I'm very much concerned with
my family who still lived there. You know, I've moved
the number of folks out of Chicago, but not everyone
is so willing to go.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And the fact of.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
The matter is, the scary part of it is walking
outside of your house every day to do something as
simple as go to school. For these children, it's a nightmare.
They don't know if they're returning back home. The parents
don't know if they're returning back home or going to
the grocery store or something that a person that may
be listening does on an everyday basis.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They may take a walk in their community.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, you're not doing anything that you would think
is super were dangerous, But that is the fear that
many people in Chicago live with on a daily basis.
Just imagine all these people who were shot over the weekend.
These people have families. These folks have a lot of folks.
I'm sure they care about them and that are concerned
with their well being, but their.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Families have been impacted.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
And I can almost assure you that out of these
fifty plus people that were shot over the weekend, this
isn't the first.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Time that their families have experienced that. I can imagine
there's people in that.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Bunch who had multiple people in their families shot in
or murdered, and that tends to be the reality for
a lot of folks that live in the city of Chicago.
So when Brandon Johnson or Governor JB. Pritzker say there's
no crime here, there's no issue, there's no crisis, they're
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lying to people's faces. They're lying to the victims of
islent crime who've experienced these tragedies.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And know them all to well.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
They're lying to the citizens who have been demanding justice
from them and members of the Democratic Party for many,
many years. They're lying to the national media, and they're lying.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
To themselves if they actually believe that.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You know, I saw an interview with Pritzker recently, and
you know, he was asked about the the shootings over
the weekend of Labor Day, and he was like, yeah, well,
you know, like every major city has crime, but not
like Chicago.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I guess, how do we get to this point where.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like a politician, a governor like Pritzker is just not
concerned about such substantial loss of human life.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
May what it tends to be.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I think these and oftentimes you know this least I
know this too. The perpetrator and the victim are oftentimes black.
When you just look at the pure numbers, and this
is the same group of people who've yelled out black
lives matter, and they honestly don't give a damn. Black
lives don't matter to them. It's the black votes that
matter to them, and they've made that the focal point
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for many of these conversations is about elections. How can
they win, how can they get more black folks to
support Democrats when democrats are creating the most damage to
the communities in which they say they care the most about.
You know, you look at the numbers in terms of
education in Chicago and across the state of Illinois as
an example, you have dozens of schools where not one
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single student can read or write a grade level, can
do math at grade level. And that's that's a deficit,
not just for the people of those particular areas in
those in those cities Chicago and elsewhere in Illinois, but
the entire nation. Our treasurer is and our children more
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more often than not, you want to build a generation
is going to make life better for the generation that
came before them.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know, our seniors our mothers, our grandmothers. Those are
very important people.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But you also got to have that same kind of
pride when it comes to these children.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And right now they're not even able to go get educated.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
In schools because they are afraid of what may happen
to them when they leave in trying to get back home.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
This is a this is this is a national crisis,
you know.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And to the point about the numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know, Chicago had five hundred and seventy three murders
in twenty twenty four, compared to three hundred and seventy
seven for New York City and two hundred and sixty
eight for Los Angeles, just as a point of comparison
to two other, you know, major cities. You talked about
how you know, these politicians say things like black lives matter,
but then you know, allow so many black people to
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get murdered in their cities and in their states. Then
why do they say black lives matter if they don't
mean it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, it's for politics, the rationale behind it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I believe what the Democrats have taken up this banter
not because they believe black lives actually matter, but because
they want to stay in power. This is about power,
and it's always been. If you look at Illinois, they
have a supermajority in their general assemblies, the House, in
the Senate, they have. All constitutional offices are ran by
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the Democrats. All but three congressional offices out of the
seventeen are ran by the Democrats. They will jerry mander
the hell out of anything to retain power. And they
know that they've been losing a grip on the black community,
not just in Illinois but nationally.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So what do they do.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
They jump on these bandwagons for them, it doesn't really
mean anything. It doesn't cost anything as popular as trendy
for them with no policy to support it. If black
lives really and truly matter, then you wouldn't eliminate cash
beil If black lives truly and legitimately matter, you would.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Be tougher on crime.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
You would be much, much much tougher on crime, and
you would ensure that those individuals who are out here
committing these atrocities are held responsible and publicly so. But
that's not what they're willing to do. We see this
across the nation. They're willing to jump on the bandwagon
of illegal migrants that have come into our country. Who've
committed crimes who President Trump has said, no, you shouldn't
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be here, you need to go home, and when it's
time to send them home, all of a sudden, oh no, uh,
we got to keep this person here.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
This is one of the one of the good ones.
You mean, the guy who raped.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
A little girl, or the guy who murdered someone, or
the guy who came over and he.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Set selling fitnel to our people, which is killing.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Them in droves. These are the people you want to defend.
These are posted children that you want to you want
to get behind.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's asinine.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Got to take a quick commercial break more with Gianno.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
On the other side, you lost Christian, little brother, Christian
just eighteen years old. Obviously, there are seven families without
a loved one after the Labor Day weekend. How much
of this comes down to, like some of these politicians
like Pritzker obviously he's like incredibly rich, or even you
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know Brandon Johnson, you know, you know how much of
this is because you know, like Brandon Johnson, I would
assume he's got security detail.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm not actually sure.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No he does. He does, yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So how much of this is because these politicians are
sort of like right, it's not their family member, it's
not someone that they know personally, like their personal lives
have not been impacted. How much of this comes down
to that, Like you know, they can push these policies
because they're insulated from the consequences of them.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, we've largely seen that for many who are
saying to defund the police back in twenty twenty, but
they hit their own police force of private securities.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And certainly for people like Brandon Johnson or JB. Pritzker
who are protected. They are like the officials that have
their own security, but JB. Prisker can afford his own
with or without being governor.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
They don't understand the realities that people everyday people, the
working people that they claim the support. They don't know
the realities that they're living through. They don't know, they
don't care. They're insulated. To your point, they're very much insulated.
So what do they do.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
They push out policies that should be supportive of these
particular communities, but they are not. Brandon Johnson couldn't tell
Joe Scarborough or MSNBC the truth, which is five thousand
police would help the city of Chicago without a question.
So many people left after the defunded police movement. So
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many people retired after they've seen the disrespect that was
being handed down by our elected officials and the handcuffing
of police.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So yes, many have left, leaving vacancies of thousands. So
five thousand police officers would make a tremendous difference in
the city.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Of Chicago, especially if they're not handcuffing the police. So yeah,
they can speak from their ivory towers. They can they
can make these commentary, make this commentary that everything gets
okay in these communities. Well, you don't live there and
you don't really know, and if you actually cared, you
would say, yes, send the we need President Trump's help.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Let's partner with him. Federal resources, let's do.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It, d O J atf DEA, FBI, let's get them
in there.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Let's work together and partner. It.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
May not agree with him on everything, and I can
understand that that's how our politics works.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I get that. But to say that you don't.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Want to get the support of the federal government, somebody
who surely wants to help the city in Chicago, unlike
President Barack Obama. This tells you how far how death
they are to the reasonable calls from citizens in the
state of Illinois and in the city of Chicago begging
for help, saying we need to get President Trump here.
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Regardless of what the elected officials have said, they've totally failed.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know, and you look at what's happened in DC
since the President declared a crime emergency there in our
nation's capital. You know, violent crime has fallen by carjackings
are down eighty seven percent will compare to the same
period in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So clearly enforcement work. Yeah, right, and it's like it's
really cool.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So why is that such a difficult concept for some
of these people to understand? If you enforce the laws,
people are going to commit less crimes.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, because the woke left has painted them in a corner.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
They made them believe that justice for the criminal was
much more important than justice for the citizen. They they've
fallen into the trap of the progressive left, which said
that they were going to take the Democratic Party in
that direction. You remember what they said about Joe Biden.
They said that they were going to drag him far
to the left, which they did successfully. I may add
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but that's also dragged a lot of other Democratic leaders
to the left as well.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
If you can consider them leaders, I should say.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So they're falling for the trap which is going to
get them pushed out of office.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Brandon Johnson is the lowest approved mayor in Chicago history. JB.
Prisker has a lot of.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Issues, even though I know he's going to try to
buy his way into a re elect campaign because he
needs to stay around long enough so he can try
to run.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
For president, which I think is going to be a
loser for him.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But this is where they are right now, and this
is where the Democratic Party is right now too.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Those black lives that they claim that mattered.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
For many, many years, we're seeing the policy specifics, the
endangerment to these communities based on what those what that
rhetoric was, We're seeing it play out. Who comes up
with a Safety Act, which is the bill that they
use to eliminate cash Bell in Illinois. We're seeing multiple
people who are getting arrested for various and they're getting out.
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I saw a publication just today where they were saying,
this is our sixth time writing about this individual committing crimes,
but he's been let out six times. You know, they're
not holding these folks accountable, and people are waking up
to the realities of it. And my hope is that
it doesn't become too late for some family who could
lose a loved one because of this inaction and destructive
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policies being pushed by the least.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You know, I believe Obama for a lot of this because,
like especially with Michael Brown. You know, his own Justice
department determined that Michael Brown was the one that you know,
he robbed the store and then he reached for the
police officer's gun and there was a scuffle that ensued,
and his Department of Justice determined that Michael Brown was
actually the one and the wrong and scared officer Wilson.
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Yet he continued to cast doubt on it. He even
prior to that was really you know, pushing the whole
like cands up, don't shoot narrative of Michael Brown. Then
it led to the Black Lives Matter movement, and it's
sort of like set off this discord in the country
and like kind of appended or criminal justice system where
you know, police officers then had a target in their
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own backs.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And then his own chief of staff mayor or you know,
and former Mayor Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And Maynoeld Chicago would eventually say that police officers were
in the fetal position since Ferguson because they're so afraid
to do their jobs.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So, I mean, do you blame Obama or you know,
I don't know what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
No? No, I mean I do agree with you largely,
and I think many people in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Agree with you on that that sentiment as well, because
I think it's even it's even deeper than that, because
to your point, it did create this narrative that police officers, especially.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Around this time, were just bad people.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
And I know that that's been a narrative that's been
going around for a long time, but we never had
a United States president really submit that sentiment for a
lot of folks, so people felt in the right to
be pushing back against police, and Mindrew doesn't. This is
no respect to any bad apples in any police department
who doesn't follow procedure or has proper conduct. I'm talking
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about good police officers, good police who do their job
every day with integrity and character, and they're here to
serve and protect those men and women. By President Barack
Obama and many Democrats since then have cast down doubts on.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
The good intentions of policing.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Those are the ones like the New York City Democrats
socialist candidate for mayor who says he said that he
wanted to defund the police, voted for it, and now
he's kind of had a little bit of a change
of tune, which we know his real interest is defunding
the police and putting social social workers in that place.
This is created that kind of casting, if you will,
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which is disenfranchised citizens everywhere, no matter what color.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Quick break.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
If you're enjoying the episode, please share on social media
or maybe send it to a friend. You had mentioned
previously that you know you hope no other families experienced
the kind of loss that you've experienced, and that you
know families over labor d weekend experience just in Chicago alone.
I know in your book the day my brother was murdered,
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you tell the stories of other families who lost what
loved ones, whose loved ones were murdered.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The same night that Christian was murdered.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
How hard was it to write that book and obviously
relived the night that you lost Christian, but then also
to hear these stories of other people who have faced
the same kind of pain that your family has and
that you have.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
It was it was in many many ways tough.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean like it was.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It was really heartbreaking for me and spend many times
in tears just by not just only recounting the facts
around Christian's murder on June twenty fourth, twenty twenty two,
but also these other families. And you know, I wrote
this book today my brother was murdered, my journey through
America's violent crime crisis, because I wanted to put a
face to a crisis that I think has affected families
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of all of all levels. We're talking about black, White, Hispanic,
and other. No matter what your political party is Democrat, Republican,
are independent, everyone has been impacted by the crime crisis
in this country and one shape or another. And I
think it's extraordinarily important to say that as a country,
we need to solve this issue. I don't think it's
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just an issue for black folks to solve, or white
folks or Hispanics, or as a United States of America,
we all need to get on board.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
With solving this issue.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I live in Miami, Florida, right now, very peaceful, very safe.
I can walk down the streets and not have to
look over my shoulder, and it feels good to not
have that kind of pressure. But I remember when I
used to have to live in that scenario when I
was in Chicago, even living downtown Chicago. The reality is
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just the same. In the book, I talk about people
like James, who was an army veteran who would often
times go to a park at one or two in
the morning because in the military he got PTSD can sleep.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And it was a group of kids there. We're talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Thirteen year old twelve eleven in this park, and he says, so,
what are you doing here? You should be at home,
and they beat him to death for the traffic home.
I was reading just today stories from people in Chicago
who were saying, you know, there's a major concern here
because there's eight year olds that walk around with guns.
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Eight years old, Lisa, It's true.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I've heard these stories many, many times. Eight year old.
You see Judge.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Jani talking about Washington d on how she cannot prosecute
teenagers because of the laws there, and we're talking about
people who even younger than.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Teenage who also had guns in DC. So it's not just.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
A Chicago issue, although you know obviously you know it
happens more there, and it is the murder capital largely
President Trump causes the murder capital of the world, but
it certainly has bigger numbers than New York and Los
Angeles are major major cities in the country, and this.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Is an issue.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I think that the country has to stand up and
say enough is enough. Yes, President Trump going to these
communities help fix it. But yeah, elected officials who have
been voted in you must work with him because you've
not offered us any solutions whatsoever. You've only made matters
worse with your policy failures. And that's a conversation we
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all must be having. And that includes folks who may
have been Democrats their entire lives, knowing that that party
does not support them. Their party is not about the
working class anymore. It's about the elites. It's about the
billionaire class. That's who they serve. They need to say
enough is enough of voting for those folks and vote
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for Republicans, even if you even if it's a race
that they may not win. You need to send a
loud and clear message to the Democratic Party that you
failed us decade after decade, and we won't take it enough,
won't take it at all anymore, I should say, And
I'm reminded of what President Trump said, what do you
have to lose? You know that that that campaign that
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is yes speech. What do you have to lose? The
schools are bad, true, the crime is bad true? What
do you have to lose by giving Trump a chance? Well,
we see what we have to gain, because he just did.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
It in DC.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The National Guard would be more limited going into Chicago
if he were to send them, just because it's not
a federal city exactly. And you know he's able to
control the dec Metropolitan police in DC, but he wouldn't
be able to do that with Chicago's police. Do you
think it would still help for him, like the presence
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alone or what do you think he should do? You know,
because obviously there's been a lot of resistance from Pritzker
and Brandon Johnson saying that this is you know, unconstitutional,
or that it's a bridge too far.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, over the weekend they were just having protests anti
Trump protests, And the way it appears to me is
that JB. Prisker and Brandon Johnson are looking to frame
this in such a way that if Trump does come,
he's giving the citizens permission to push back on the
National Guard, if that would be what it is, whatever
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the federal response is, and whatever the federal presence is,
I think what they would like to see is chaos
in the street. They wanted to see George Floyd all
over again. That is the goal, and that's what they
were hoping for in DC. But to that point, the
presence in DC has certainly reduced crime. The criminals are
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hide in the way and they have arrested a number
of criminals. That would be very effective for Chicago to
take some of these people off the street.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But the thing is how do you prosecute them? Is
the question?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Are you prosecuting them through the DOJ or you prosecuting
them through the Cook County the Cook County Prosecutor's office.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Is the Safety Act going to.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Apply the elimination of cash bail where they can just
get put just recycled back onto the streets. Those are
I think questions that need to be answered, and the
federal presence have to be a bit more descriptive as
to what we would be looking to see and I
think that's kind of what they're working on now. But
it's going to be a little more difficult to work
on it, especially if you don't have the local partnership
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from the governor and the mayor, because they refuse to
accept the help because they know that it would make
such a drastic difference that Trump would get the credit
for it, and people will say, well, Trump is right,
we need to invite this into our city.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Because Chicago is the postal trial for the worst, rand,
most corrupt, and criminal haven.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I think of any city in the country right now,
we've had the most politicians go to jail, governors, mayors,
any form of elected officials. We've had the most crime
of just about any major city that you can think of,
most murders. I believe this is about one hundred and
fifty thousand crimes committed thus far this year.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's serious. That's pretty serious stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
So you know, if you're able to make a difference
in Chicago like you did in DC, then the Democrats
are put out of business.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You're thinking about running or really start entertaining the idea
of potentially running for Senate in Illinois.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Do you think a Republican can win.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
My hope is that a Republican can win in Illinois,
and a Republican should win in Illinois. We know that
most voters are looking for results the Democrats haven't delivered
on that.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I feel like we're going to have a law and
order mid term election.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Durwn just decided that he's not going to run again,
which essentially makes it an open seat. I spoke at
Illinois Stay Fair for a Republican Day, and there, immediately
after I spoke is the keynote speaker, there was a
camera in my face asking if I was running for
US Senate, and that started a lot of the conversation
around the potentiality of me running. I've heard from folks
(25:30):
both nationally and locally on the grounds who are very
excited and interested in me running, and they believe that
I am the guy to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Now. I am absolutely seriously exploring this.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
As an option and an opportunity to serve my home state.
But if I don't run, I'm still going to be
very focused on insuring whoever does run as an opportunity
to win that race, whether that be me, you know,
just campaigning on ground, knocking on doors, making phone calls
(26:03):
for that person or speaking at their events. This is
a state that Republicans must win, and we must have
someone in that office that can work with this administration
because I believe that the Trump two point zero number
forty seven is the best administration that we've ever seen,
(26:24):
and they're willing to do things that I think Democrats
would love to have done. They would have loved to
have taken over DC. And you know, I guess I
should say the old Democratic Party, old Democratic Party would
have loved that made a difference on crime, because remember,
crime used to be an issue that every party was
concerned about, just like border security was one that everybody
(26:46):
was every party was concerned about. You see what Obama
said on it, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden. These used to
not be polarizing issues. Everybody agreed. We need safety, security,
we need our nation's sovereignty not to be viol need.
Those are things that we all agreed on. It was
just the abortion and maybe taxes was the biggest consideration
(27:08):
between two parties. But now we're so far apart on
these issues. Republicans are more in line with what the
citizens want, no matter what that issue might be.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Biological men and women's sports.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Republicans won't want that, but based on a polling, most
Americans don't want that, including a majority of Democrats don't
want that, and I believe about sixty percent.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So there's a lot of issues that I.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Think we can tackle, and we need representation in the
state of Illinois that can actually work with this administration
to get things done for the state, and right now
that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Exist, you know, and I know that you're working on
all these issues too at the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety,
trying to push for policies that would reduce crime in
a lot of these places like Chicago and support people
who want to enforced the law.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I would encourage people to go to call Well
Institute dot org support our efforts or call well Safety
dot org for our foundation, a call Oh Foundation for
Public Safety. And I can't thank you enough for hosting
our event in mar A Lago. You did a fantastic job,
and you know, the word is out. We want to
(28:20):
disrupt the violent crime and the crime crisis that has
been going on in our country and that for what
we do with the Callal Institute for Public Safety is
around the elected officials who held these offices, whether they
be progressive prosecutors funded by George Sores, or they're the
far left folks of the Democratic Party and narrow rolls
(28:42):
the gubernatorial roles, or honestly, the whole Democratic Party is
pretty far left at this particular point. So we wanted
to make an impact after my brother was murdered in
the city of Chicago, and this is my way of
paying his legacy forward. And I'm so honored to partner
with you go on this.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Lisa Well, Joanna Clubwell, you're one of my best friends.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You're basically a family.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You're my family too.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I'm proud of you obviously, I've you know, seen were
new and and you know was there and saw the
pain that you went through and still are going through
with losing Christian. So I'm just I'm really proud of
you for taking something that uh, you know, most people
will never experience that kind of pain, uh, and turning
it into a motivating force to try to make sure
(29:30):
other people don't have to feel that kind of pain.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So proud to my friend. Thanks for making the time.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Thank you, Bessie. I'm always appreciative to join you on
your platform. Thank you for the opportunity that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Was Jihano Caldwell.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Appreciate him for taking the time to come on the show.
Push you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You can listen throughout the week.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I also want to thank my producer John Cassiope putting
a show together.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Until next time,
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