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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wisconsin is one of the most important battleground states in
the country, one of the most important for Republicans trying
to win back the Senate and as well as the
path to the White House for Donald Trump. If you
look at the four of the past six presidential races
in Wisconsin, they've been decided by a margin of less
than one percent. In twenty twenty, the race was separated
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by twenty thousand votes. So it is deeply competitive, a
deeply important state. So we're going to talk to Eric
Hovedy today, who is running for Senate in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He's the Republican.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
He's facing off against United States Senator Tammy Baldwin. She
is an extreme progressive, very to the left, very liberal.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Terrible for this country.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So we're going to talk to him about how Kamala
Harris's entry into the race has shifted the dynamics changed
with the dynamics in Wisconsin. Also just the state of
the country right now, the state of the presidential race
in Wisconsin and both nationwide as well.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Also, he's a business guy.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I mean, this is someone who's started his first business
and his twenties went on to create multiple businesses after that.
He's a philanthropist as well with the Hubby Foundation. He
runs that with his brother. So we're going to talk
to him about some of the economic policies that Kamala
Harris has put forward. What that means for you, what
that means for Wisconsin nights as well. I mean, we
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know since Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have taken off
as overall prices have increased by over twenty percent. So
what would Kamala Harris's price controls do for the country.
What would that do to the economy. She wants to
tax unrealized gains. Even her surrogates are going on air
saying that's not a good idea. So what does that
mean for the economy? What does that mean for you
at home? We're going to get into all of this
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and so much more with Eric Hovedy, the Republican running
for Senate in the state of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So stay tuned for that. Well, Eric, it's so great
to have you back on the show.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Since we last had you on, a lot has changed.
The Democrats have an entirely new candidate, a new Democrat ticket.
What are your thoughts on kind of that last minute,
eleventh hour switch up?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Look we live in a crazy world, Lisa, and politics
is just an amplification of this. I mean, if you
think what's unfolded in just the last two and a
half months, it's unbelievable. We had a president meltdown in
a debate. President you know, a former president who's running
for president, Donald Trump getting almost assassinated. You know, a convention,
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a switch out of the other one. And what they've
done is stunning. You know, RFK gave his speech when
he endorsed President Trump and dropped out and really nailed
the Democrats. Think of how bad the Democratic Party has
become today. It is so different than the party of
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twenty twenty five years ago. And I disagreed with a
lot of the Democrats policies of twenty twenty five years ago,
but what it's become today is just stunning. They try
to gaslight the American public and say they're defending democracy,
and everything they do is destroying democracy, even for you know,
the nomination of their presidential candidate. You know, they deep
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sixed their president because they knew he was a weight
on them, so then they annoyed her not going through
a democratic process. And now the media is just covering
for her not doing interviews. Show me any presidential candidate
other than when Joe Biden run during the heart of COVID,
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and even then he would take interviews. And she doesn't
even talk to the press. It is stunning. I don't
know if they'll be able to keep this up and
for how long, but it's just amazing how they just
guess like the American public. So yeah, it's beyond creat
I don't think it's going to last for them, but
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it certainly has given them some excitement to date.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, you know, and you've figured this out with being
a candidate, you know how the media operates. I think
it was NewsBusters that had a some research showing that
Kamala Harris has received eighty four percent positive coverage, whereas
you know Donald Trump has received eighty nine percent negative.
You know, I used to I worked on the Tommy
Thompson for Senate race in Wisconsin. I remember a reporter
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told me I won't mention his name, obviously, but he
had told me that the Wisconsin Press Corps or even
further to the left than you know, the national media.
So I assume you know your number probably look pretty
similar in this fight you have against Tammy Baldwin, what's that,
what's been that?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What has that been like?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
To kind of navigate, you know, the media in Wisconsin
and you know, just trying to get your message out.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's difficult. Look, you know, I'm going to give you
a prime example because I think it's helpful for people
to know. So Senator Baldwin, who's one of the most
liberal senators in the US Senate, runs back here in
our state as a moderate and she's anything but I mean,
she's typically voted one of the top three most liberal senators.
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The press will not call her out on anything. So
one of our major newspapers had the story about how
she basically lives in New York with her partner, Maria Brisbane,
who is a wealth manager to the uber wealthy and
private equity set, which is so hypocritical because Senator Baldwin
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always rails against Wall Street and has run against Wall
Street and literally she's living with Ball Street. But what's
even deeper is Maria Brisbane invests in biotech and pharmaceutical
companies and Senator Baldwin's on a committee that oversees that.
Now if they were married, they would have to disclose
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what Maria is investing in and what Senator Baldwin's voting on.
But because they're not technically married, then Cammy Baldwin doesn't
have to disclose that. Well, one of our major newspapers
had the story. The reporter wanted to run it, but
was blocked from doing that. So it just shows you
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how they cover for her, and then at the same
time they will try to make up anything. Yesterday a
newspaper mentioned what I just talked about, but then talks
about Yeah, but Eric Covey is financial issues because there's
a foreign government that invested in his bank or has
a deposit in his bank. Well, first of all, who
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cares if I have a deposit in a bank I own.
They're not an investor in my company. And who cares
if a foreign government has a deposit in my bank?
It's like two hundred thousand dollars. My bank's over three
and a half billion. It's insane how they try to compare.
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And what they're doing is they're trying to cause confusion
in somebody's mind. So this is the nonsense that you
have to deal with when you're running for the US Senate.
And I could give you example, example after example. She
ran about me being ads, saying, I'm a Californian. I've
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never lived in the state of California. One year in
my life as a resident, I bought a business there.
I moved the headquarters out of there to the Salt
Lake the bank I just referenced. But I've never you know,
I've never paid my income taxes in California. I'm a
fourth generation Wisconsin I live in Wisconsin. I've raised my
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you know, my daughter, all the rest. But and the
press knows this is everything she said was a complete lie,
but they never called her out on it. So that's
what you have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, you know, and to your point, they can't just
run a clean hit against her. It's like they have
to muddy the waters, as you point out, and she's
bragged about delivering, you know, voting with Joe Biden to
deliver I think it's like close to fifty million dollars
to grow the biotech, our BioHealth economy, you know, create jobs,
which obviously you mentioned her partner, you know, is connected
to that.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So you know, wait, you had mentioned RFK Junior earlier.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I loved the speech that he gave because I think
it really it painted a very clear picture of what
today's Democrat Party represents. To your point, you know, he
was talking about how now you know the Democrat Party
he used to associate with the party of the working class,
and now it's the party of of war, of censorship,
of corruption, a big pharm of big tech, big age,
you know, big ag, big.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Money, you know, big et cetera.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And so you know, these Democrats to your point, are
you know, total hypocrites because they pretend to care about
the working man and woman and then you know they're
financially benefiting from the opposite or you know, represent representing
opposing interests one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I would encourage everybody to listen to rfk's address.
It was very impactful and it was very powerful, and
he really does he walks through he takes a part
the Democratic Party. Think of it. He's the nephew of
the former standard bearer for the Democratic Party. JFK could
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not get elected in today's Democratic Party. His father was
going to be the Democratic nominee was assassinated and he
can't even run in his own party. And what they
did and tried to destroy them. But then he goes
into the media and the censorship and how it's controlled
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by the Democratic Party. He goes in to the Party
of War, and then what I found was so impactful
was his whole discussion on our nation's health. And he's
one hundred percent correct. It is something that I talk
about every quarter with my employ because we're destroying our
health in this country and you see it mental illness,
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physical illness, you know, obesity levels that are off the charts,
and that is what the Democratic Party it has been
co opted by major corporations, not the entrepreneurial set, not
the small medium sized businesses. Those are all the owners
of those or the people that run those are almost
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entirely Republican and conservative. But it's these big corporate entities,
be it you know, big tech, big media, big pharma,
that really has bought and has total control over the
Democratic Party. So I would encourage everybody to listen to
his comments when he endorsed President Trump.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, I thought it was a great speech.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
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It has impacted the dynamics of both the Senate landscape
as well as this presidential race as well. It's definitely
tightened things in the battleground states, which Wisconsin is obviously
one of the most important. You know, in Wisconsin, for
the last six presidential races have been decided by a
margin of less than one percent. In twenty twenty, it
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came down to twenty thousand votes separating Joe Biden from
Donald Trump. Why do you think Wisconsin is aways such
a competitive state?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Because we're true, We're probably the most purple state of all.
We're sent or right and from our value system and
all the rest. If you look at our state, six
of our eight congressional seats a Republican. Our states and
it's majority Republican. Our assemblies almost super majority. But our
governors go back and forth. We have a Democrat governor
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a g right now, but our former governor was a Republican.
The one before that was a Democrat, and then before
that was Tommy Thompson who was governor for almost four
terms until he went to the Bush administration. But then
here we are we have Ron Johnson, one of the
most conservatives, and Tammy Baldwin one of the most liberals.
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So why is that, Well, it's largely because most of
our state is conservative, the northern Woods. From a geographic standpoint,
you know, ninety percent of our state is a Republican.
But we have two cities, Milwaukee and Madison. Madison is
very liberal where that's where I live. I'm in the
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belly of the beast, a very progressive left. Think of Berkeley, California,
university town, state capital, and typically government employees tend to
vote Democrat. Private sector employees tend to vote Republican. And
then you have Milwaukee. Think of you know, for those
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people on the East coast, think of a Baltimore, Cleveland,
you know, a city like that which has much higher
you know, ethnic uh and Black and Hispanic populations. Now,
the interesting thing, Lisa is you're seeing a shift in
both the black and Hispanic populations. And I think this
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is a game changer. And why do I say that,
Because I don't think older blacks are going to change
and vote Republican, and I don't think a lot of
black women will. Some will change, but young black males
are hemorrhaging out at that party right now, and they're
tired you know, I've heard them say, we want economic opportunity,
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we want to be entrepreneurs, We don't want to just
be on welfare payments. So the Democrats have controlled our
city for seventy five plus years, nothing has changed. And
then the Hispanic population is really really changing. When you
start talking about transgendering kids and boys, planning girls sports,
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and allowing abortions up until delivery, it's repulsive to them.
And they came here for our free market entrepreneurial system.
So I think that's changing now. Another thing that's helped
the Democrats in the past is, you know, we have
University of Wisconsin and a lot of students end up
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voting in our state. But there's another interesting dynamic happening there.
Young males in our college campuses are starting to shift
Republican and some young females, not as many females, but
definitely young males. So I'm very hopeful for this upcoming election.
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As you said, you know, you hear it all the time. Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin.
That is why Biden was spending more time here than
any other state. Why Kamala Harris's first stop was into Wisconsin, and.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Biden Biden's going to be there, So we're recording on
the fourth. Biden's going to be in Westby, Wisconsin. On
the my id pronounced that Wesby. Is that on the fifth?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Is it you think it's smart for Kamala Harris to
have Joe Biden campaign for her in Wisconsin right now?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Uh? I don't know. Uh. I don't think the picking
of Kamala Harris helped a lot in Wisconsin, and certainly
her picking Tim Walls did not help because a lot
of Minnesotans that left Minnesota because of how extreme they
were with the lockdowns and some of his craziness like
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that transgender bill that if you're a parent and you
don't agree with your child being transgendered, they can eight
can take your child away from you. So a lot
of conservatives left and moved over. So you know, if
Joe Biden, you know, probably still has some lingering support.
So I think it. I don't know if it's really
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that beneficial or not, but it's it's gonna be an
Ail Bier. And if I can win, that helps President Trump.
If he can win, that helps me. Now it's very important.
A lot of people get swung around by these poles,
and the Left has learned how to manipulate a lot
of these poles. But I will tell you, and this
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is important to remember. In twenty sixteen, if you look
at the October polls, it had President Trump losing the
state of Wisconsin by about six percent. He won. In
two thy twenty, it had President Trump losing the state
of Wisconsin by like six and a half seven percent.
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He lost by less than a percent. So there is
a big underpolling for President Trump in the state. So
I see some of these polls, like CNN had one
out today and I just laughed at it. It had
President Trump's numbers down at like forty four or forty five.
Donald Trump has a hard forty seven percent in our state.
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Anytime you see a poll that has the President Trump
below forty seven in the state of Wisconsin, and I
frankly think that number is more like forty seven and
a half to forty eight, it's a junk pole. And
the Left is learned to do that because they try
to get suppressed Republican donations and get hyped up Democratic donations.
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So I always caution people on polls. I think right
now it's a dead heat or President Trump's probably winning
by maybe a point. My race is a dead heat.
But you know, look, they keep bringing money and more
money and more money. You know, I need all the help.
I've made a big investment in my campaign, but I
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certainly can't fund this campaign by myself. And I'm trying
to raise money. But man, they've got the pipeline. Senator Baldwin,
a big tech, big pharma, you know, you name it.
She raised so much money out of New York in California.
It's it's ungothli. She's not really a Wisconsin senator. She's
she lives in New York with her partner and raises
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most of her money from New York and California.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We've got a quick commercial break more with Eric on
the other side.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I don't think people realize, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And I think the point that RFK Junior was trying
to point out is that the bigger the big gets,
and the more control that you know, the Democrat Party,
the more control they have on all these major industries,
the smaller voice gets as we the people, you know,
that gets diminished and we lose our power, which was
the whole point of the United States of America in
the first place.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You know, your your business guy.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
We've seen overall prices have gone up over twenty percent
since Joe Biden and Kamala Haaras took office. You look
at some of the economic policies that she's put forward,
price controls, you know, which we've seen in places like Venezuela,
or even taxing unrealized gains. How do you think these
policies that she's put forward would impact the economy?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Devastating? I mean utterly devastating. And people don't even understand
today how bad the Biden policies are. We've felt the
first front of the policies, which was inflation. That deing
valued everybody's dollars by about twenty two percent, and inflation
is always a monetary event. You know, they spent so
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much money. The Federal Reserve, the bank for the federal government,
had to buy all that debt and monetize that debt
through an operation called quantitative Easy and as a result,
you know, they printed so much money and that's what
caused inflation. Well that's the first impact. But the reality
of it is we're left with thirty five trillion dollars
in debt, are trillion dollars the interest costs on that debt,
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and the only way they're going to be able to
deal with the long term is continuing to inflate it away.
And it's robbing from the future growth because when you
deficit spend, all you're doing is taking future growth and
pulling it in to now. And so the damage that
they've done to our future economy is enormous. And then
when you start talking price controls, are you kidding me?
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It's failed everywhere it goes, because what's going to happen.
It's going to drive more suppliers out of business, grocery stores,
the food companies that sell into it, and then you're
going to have shortages. And then at some point the
shortages are going to become so extreme they'll have to
get rid of the price controls. And then what's going
to happen. You're going to have food costs to shoot
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through the roof far greater than ever because you have
less supply. So it's as dumb as dumb can get.
But you know, now she's trying to walk back from that,
because you know, even the media had to acknowledge how
stupid that was. But I mean, everything she's talked about
and people forget about the taxes that are going to
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be coming on small and medium businesses here soon, because
you know the tax cuts that President Trump put in
for Llcson sub Chapter S corporations that small and medium
sized business is they expire in twenty five. So her policies,
I'm telling you, this economy I don't think can take it.
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I think we will collapse. And I don't say that lightly,
but I think we will go through one of the
most significant contractions if she is elected. And by the way,
it's going to be tough even if President Trump gets
elected and we put positive pro growth policies in place,
because the damage that they've done.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You know, it's it is quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You have one of her sarrogates, Rocanna, when on CNBC
I believe it was this morning, and even slammed her
policy attacks and realized gains. He said, do you really
want the entrepreneurs to be forced to sell their companies
to larger institutions and decline and value and saying that
he didn't think that the proposal was a good thing.
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So when you're being slammed by your own sarrogates, your
policies are not good. She's also proposed giving a first
time home buyers up to twenty five thousand dollars in
down payment assistance. She's been criticized for this too, just
saying that that's going to increase prices, that the house
of prices across the country. Do you think she has
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any idea how the economy works in sort of listening
to these policies and listening to try to talk about
the economy.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Of course not. And that's why they can't put her
in front of journalists. It's the same use and Senator
bal doing who I'm running against, rarely ever does what
I'm doing with you, or talk to the journalists, or
won't even baby, I'm getting one after early voting has
well underway, almost a month underway. Because they have no
understanding how the economy works. Their career politicians, they've never
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operated in the real world. They wouldn't have a clue
about even the most basic fundamentals of an economy. Yeah,
you put a tax on unrealized gains, You're just going
to collapse asset values. You're just going to accelerate that
the collapse of our economy. It's as dumb as dumb
could be. But you know, these are the things they
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float out there, so yeah, it's scary when you listen
to what they say. But look at how she has
wholesale changed on everything. Oh, I'm gonna put in a
border wall. You're the borders are you know? It just
it's just priceless. Oh now, no tip, no tax on tips.
She's literally just wholesale stealing things from President Trump, and
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the media is letting her get away with. It's just
stunning what we're witnessing now. I hope enough Americans wake up.
I always tell when I speak to crowds and for
your listeners today, you've got to go talk to the
people in the middle, be it your neighbors, your family members,
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your friends, the ones that are like Democrats or somewhere
in the middle. You can't you can't reason with the
hardcore progressives, you just can't, or people that have Trump
derangement syndrome. But you got to talk to them, and
you've got to ask them questions. You got to get
them thinking, do you really think this woman is capable
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of being president? Have you listened to her speak? Do
you think she's put together any coherent policies? What do
you think it's right that she's not even giving interviews,
But then even go do you like the fact that
she was the borders are and opened up and flooded
our country with over ten to six sixteen million illegal immigrants,
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compounding the problems with housing and healthcare for our own citizens,
allowing criminal elements. I mean, Venezuela's open their jails and
they've come into our country, flooding our streets with bentnhal
We thought, we're losing over one hundred thousand Americans every year.
It's number one killer of eighteen to forty five year olds.
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Ask them those questions and you know, and get them
to think and say, do you really support this? Because
I mean, we are. This is the most critical election.
I would not have gotten into this ugly game for
politics if I wasn't so deeply concerned about the direction
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my country has been going and where it will go
if we get four more years at this stuff. So
that's what prompted me to get into this race. I
love my country, I love America, and we've got to
save America.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Grad And to your point, she's just not up for
the job. I mean they turned a basic interview. I mean,
you know we're going we're on you know, twenty plus
minutes now, and she turned a basic interview into some
grand event. Had to have tim walls, a guy who
wants to put tampons in the boy's bathroom next to
her during the interview. She spoke for only sixteen minutes
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and it was taped. How can a woman that can't
even do a basic television interview be up to the
task of being commander in chief of the most powerful
nation in the world's It's defied logic.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And she's not capable. It's so clear anybody that has
watched her over the past four years. Look, just walk
through her history. She was the DA in San Francisco.
She literally when she became the DA I think it
was like two thousand and four, the city of San
Francisco started its massive decline. Then she became the Attorney
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General of California. Look at how you know sanctuary cities,
the decline. San Francisco even sped up even further in
its decline with crime and homelessness and all the rest.
Then La followed suit and all the crazy stuff that happened.
Then she became a senator. Look at the policies she's
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pushed as a senator. They were stunning. I mean, she's
got a bailout fund for the people that destroyed our
cities during defund the police movement, the BLM movement, I mean,
everything she's touched. And then she was the vice president.
What was her big job? Borders are and our border
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got totally opened up, we got our streets got flooded
with federal criminal elements have come into our country. They
know fifty thousand military age Chinese men have come into
our country. There's been reporting that a lot of these
guys are probably Chinese military. They're lacing pills with ventanyl
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and they're engaging in cybercrime. I mean, they created a
humanitarian crisis on our southern border. So everything she's touched
has been an utter failure. And you're right, she can't
stand in front of a group of reporters. Most presidential
racist folks just go back. You stand in front of
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reporters every single day as a presidential candidate. You're always
doing That's what you do. You're giving speeches, you're coming
off the plane, you're talking to the press. You go
on give your speech, you do a fund raiser, you
come back, you talk to the press. You're engaging with
the press literally every day, and she has done one interview,
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as you said, with you know, having her you know,
vice president candidate. They're you know, holding her hand.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's embarrassing, it really is.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Eric, Is there anything else you'd like to leave us
with before we go?
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I just ask everybody who's listening to this, You've got
to do everything you can. I get up every morning,
run from morning tonight to try to take a Senate
seat away from a progressive socialist leftists, to try to
steer the Senate back in the right direction. Everybody needs
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to do whatever they can. You can try to help
somebody like me. Go to erichubd dot com, send me
a donation, Tell your neighbors, your friends if you're in Wisconsin.
But everybody has to get off the sofa, and we've
got to creative movement, and we've got to pull people
onto our side because we can't sit back. Apathy is
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what's destroying this country right now, and everybody has to
get engaged. So let's go save America.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Let's go save America. Eric Hovedy, we appreciate your time.
You're a busy guy, you know. Good luck I agree
about the importance of this election. So appreciate you running,
Appreciate what you're doing, and you know we pray you
in We pray that Republicans take back to the White
House and the Senate and keep the House.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Thank you, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
So is Eric Hovedy running for Senate in Wisconsin against
Hammy Baldwin.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Appreciate him making the time. Is a busy guy.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
These elections are brutal, so tiring for the candidates, so
we appreciate him making the time. Appreciate you guys at
home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can
listen throughout the week. I want to think John Cassio
and my producer for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Until next time.