On this episode of The Truth with Lisa Boothe, Congressman Chip Roy joins Lisa for a powerful conversation on the mounting threats facing America and its allies. They mark the two-year anniversary of the October 7th terror attacks in Israel and discuss the need to eliminate Hamas and defend Western values. Roy also sounds the alarm on rising political violence, lenient justice for left-wing extremists, and the growing influence of Marxist and Islamist ideologies. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. New episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we're joined by Congressman ship Roy to tackle a lot,
a lot going on in the country, a lot going around,
a lot going on in the world as well. Two
years officially since the October seventh terror attacks in Israel,
the Trump administration is engaged in negotiations right now to
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get the remaining hostages returned to Israel and to end
the conflict. What does Chip Roy think will happen with that?
Also dive into this assassination culture that's brewing in America
right now, starting with the attorney another attorney general race
in the state of Virginia where the Democrat candidate there
is on record wishing for the death of a Republican
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opponent and that opponent's children. And then there's this shocking
eight year sentence for the man who plotted to assassinate
Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Why did the judge factor in President
Trump's transgender prison policies?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What does that say about our legal system?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So there was a lot to cover, and we're going
to dig into all of it with Congressman ship Roy,
who is running for Attorney General.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
In the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Stay tuned, Congressman Ship Roy, It's always great to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
On this show. Always love your candidness.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
A lot going on in the country, in the world
right now, so looking forward to your insight into all
of it. And I wanted to start off just with
two years since the October seventh terror attacks. Right now
that the Trump administration is trying to hammer out negotiations
and details of you know, ceasefire, some sort of peace plan,
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returning the hostages.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What do you think is going to happen with all
of this?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Obviously, you know there's good reason to sort of be
cautiously optimistic about everything.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, thanks for starting with that question. It's such an
important rememberance what actually occurred on October seventh to not
just our friends in Israel, but to American citizens. And
when people question, like why is this battle going on?
Remember the horrors that unfolded on October seventh? And you
asked me, what do I think will happen? And I
want to start with the credit that is due President
Trump in his history of working out solutions in the
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Middle East, the Abraham Accords, notably bringing Arab nations together
along with Israel to create a new paradigm where you've
got travel going between the countries, and then he's got
a track record of success in figuring out how to
get these parties together. So I'm hopeful that the meetings
that are occurring right now can yield that kind of result.
But it should be noted that over the last forty
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eight hours, I've seen some absurd demands out of amaz.
Oh yeah, sure, we'll release the hostages. If you release
the murderers who killed a lot of our innocent Israeli citizens.
That's absurd and that's a non starter. HAMAS has to
know that. So I hope that in the negotiations they're
able to reach a solution. But that solution must begin
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and end with the national security interests of the United States,
the security interests of Israel, ensuring that HAMAS is no
longer an organized entity and is no longer carrying out
terrorist threats and terrorist attacks on Israel.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
They need all of that to end.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
They need to release the hostages, and then we need
to get busy, you know, trying to figure out how
to move forward.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The thing I don't understand about, you know, some of
the conversations around surrounding Israel. Is the idea that like
two years it's been too long of a war, like
too you know, like we after nine to eleven, which
is you know, the equivalent of what happened in Israel
in terms of like obviously they have much smaller population.
So if that word to have happened here we're talking,
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I think it's like, you know, over forty five thousand
people that would have died.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And so like to say that two years is just
too long of a time.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
We engaged in like a twenty year war after nine
to eleven. You could certainly make the argument that we
didn't need to be at war that long, and there
was a lot of mistakes that it took place, but
like two years is not a long period of time
when you have twelve hundred of her people slaughtered, you know,
people kidnapped, like you're women raped and you know, children murdered,
right like like so I don't understand the idea that
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somehow like it's just too long of a war and
Israel needs to lay down their arms.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, I mean, look that I think it is very
much up to the people of Israel. Obviously, we have
a vest at interest instability and peace. Obviously, some of
our treasure goes to supporting Israel, or has historically at least,
But to say that Israel shouldn't be doing everything necessary
to wipe out Amas, I just disagree with. And I
know there's some Americans who think that Israel's being maybe
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too aggressive or or trying to, you know, carry this
out and in too long of a time, or they've
been too aggressive in Gaza. But look, it's not the Israelis,
and it's not the Americans who built these tunnels under
schools and hospitals. It's not the Israelis or the Americans
who have perpetrated these horrific attacks on innocent people and
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carried out these threats of violence and whose aim Hamas
is to destroy or Israel.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Let's always remember that, right. I mean, if we had.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
The equivalent right across the border in Mexico. Now, by
the way, the cartels are pretty bad, but if we
had the equivalent in terms of jihad, and they wanted
to say, we're gonna wipe Texas off the map and
we're gonna fire missiles into Austin. But you guys, just
suck it up a deal. How long do you think
that would last, right, I mean, it's just absurd to
think about it. So we've got to recognize that reality.
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While also in this now me speaking, I don't believe
in endless wars, right. I think after nine to eleven,
we let that go move away from hey, let's go
take out the bad guys, and turned into this like
twenty year nation building, let's remake the Middle East guys.
We weren't gonna do that, and so we spent twenty
years in a you know, seven trillion dollars and I
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think we should have had that be a lot shorter.
So I think the president's rights trying to draw to
a close. I think the president rights to negotiate. I
think the president has a successful track record, but let's
make sure it's good terms. Otherwise the deal shouldn't be struck.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, and I don't believe in endos wars either. It's
just like the idea that Israel is supposed to live
alongside Hamas and in any sort of like governing position.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's just, yeah, it's like absurd.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But you know, I wanted to ask you obviously after
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, like
this environment is something that's you know, been brewing, right.
You can go back to twenty seventeen when the Bernie
supporter tried to gun down some of your colleagues, you know,
Congressman Steve Scleese and you know Lee Zelden was almost
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stabbed on the campaign, right, Like, there's a whole long
list of things that have taken place to create and
foster this environment. But recently, the man who tried to
assassinate Justice Brett Kavana and other members of the High Court, who,
by the way, it was like totally premeditated, right. I mean,
this guy flew out from California to the DC area.
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He had all these Google searches, you know, purchase weapons
on multiple occasions. On nine different occasions, he bought weapons,
made Google searches about serial killers and mass shootings. There's
messages about him talking about how we could change the
makeup of the court if there was you know, one
less conservative on the court. But so this judge only
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gives him eight years and even references.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The judge said she.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Factored into the sentence her concern about Trump's executive order
requiring transgender inmates to be detained in prisons that correspond
to their sex at birth, because this guy Nicholas now
says that he's Sophie, Like, what the hell, congressman eight
years for a very premeditated, you know, attempted assassination of
a Supreme Court justice, and then a reference to the
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fact that this guy you know allegedly says he's now Sophie,
as you know, some sort of reason to give him
a lighter sentence, like what is happening and what does
that tell you about, you know, the colonel justice system
in the world of law right now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, Well, first of all, thanks for starting with the
connection to Charlie Charlie Kirk, because what happened there was
the build up, as you rightly note, of a long
time of this building to this moment. The radical left
is Marxist left. They are organized, and they're organized with
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a mission to take out conservatives and to take out
people that frankly disagree with them, and they want to
attack the American way of life. Charlie was killed because
he was willing to call all this out and stand
up on college campuses and proclaim the gospel and stand
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up for the constitutional order. And I think that's an
important predicate for what we're dealing with this radical judge
Deborah Bordman, I think it's disqualified, even impeachable. In fact,
I think it is in fact impeachable as a violation
of the constitutional clause for judges of holding the office
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under good behavior. For her to have basically said, I
discount the reality of truth, man and woman, I'm going
to set aside the importance of security and enforcing the law,
one of the principal roles of a judge. For an
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obvious assassination attempt that was organized as you laid out,
and had all the evidence that made clear that it
was purposeful, and she ignored that to basically put forward
her own worldview over top of the law. That's not
good behavior. That's not what we should see out of
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judges who are supposed to enforce the law. It was
an instance of a judge allowing her ideology to subvert
the truth, and that's irreconcilable with the bedrock function of
the judicial process, and it violates, in my opinion, the
constitutional standard for continuing some judicial office of good behavior.
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Like I said, and I think this is a larger
narrative that we need to be mindful of the war
being waged against our way of life. You brought up Charlie.
The last text exchange I had with Charlie of substance
that wasn't just a trivial exchange was about, yes, this
attack and the sort of Marxist attack, but it was
a step further. Was the Islamist and advance of Shria
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a law attack on our way of life. I think
it's all kind of one and the same. I think
these things are related, and I think it's a Marxist
Islamist attack on the American way of life that I
think is central to what we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It also, I feel like the judge also noted the
fact that, you know, Nicholas called nine to eleven and
turned to himself in as a reason to give him
a lighter sentence.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But if you look at what happened.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
He saw law enforcement outside of the House of Breakafana,
so like, you know, you know what I mean, like so,
and apparently law enforcements all him. So like, I don't
understand why you would get leniency when the nine to
eleven call seemed to be well, like, inevitably he was
probably gonna get busted regardless, And it's better to call
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nine one one turn yourself in, then you know what
I mean, Like, it doesn't seem like that was just
out of like a change of horror and a you know,
a this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah. So it's like, I don't get why that would
be factored in.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Because this judge is accepting the delusional fiction that a
man has become a woman and that that fiction is
a proper factor considering sentencing. That's why it's insanity Like
this is this is a break from the foundational principles
of our republic. That's what's actually happening. And I think
that's what we've got to recognize when we when we
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try to think through what we're dealing with here. If
you were to ask a conservative like me, and I
won't speak for you or anybody else listening, hey, what
do you think is the standard for impeaching judges? I
would be pretty reticent over the years of saying, wow,
I mean, look, that's a big that's a big leap, right.
But I've been studying and looking at this, and when
you look at the power of judges, hat and impeaching
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a judge is not the same as the president, right,
It's not just high crime misdemeanors. There's a specific clause
in there for good behavior, and I think this is
directly in violation of that. So that's no small thing. Okay,
this is this is actually somewhat newsworthy. The chairman of
the Subcommittee of the Constitutions, Subcommittee on the House, you
just sharing committee, believes that this is impeachable, and I
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don't take that lightly. That's how crazy what we saw
unfold is got.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To take a quick commercial break, more a congressmanship roy.
On the other side, I co hosting Fox and Friends
over the weekend, and Secretary Nome came on and she
broke some news that had all of our jaws, you know,
dropped to the floor, had her mouths drop to the floor.
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She said that some officers and agents have had bounties
put on their head, two thousand dollars to kidnap them,
ten thousand to kill them, that their pictures have been
released through networks. I had asked her, you know who's
behind it, obviously, and she said it's gangs, it's cartel members,
it's foreign terrorist organizations, and that they're working with the
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Treasury Department to try to dig into some of the
financing and the possible coordination. How much of what we're
seeing internally with this domestic terrorism in cities like Portland
and Chicago is linked to potential foreign terrorism with whether
it's these cartels or other you know, terrorist organizations. Do
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you think there's a link between the two, and what
do you think we're going to find out out with
some of this investigation investigators, Well.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Let's start with what we know. We know that foreign
terist organizations, including, by the way, cartels, which the President
was right to designate them as foreign terist organizations. By
the way, I introduced that legislation in twenty nineteen, and
I was derided by Republicans who said, well, that's crazy,
we can't do that. They're not foreign terrrist organizations. Chip
you know, they're not the same as what we're dealing
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with in the Middle East. And I'm like, yes, yes
they are, and they are in fact having a much
more direct impact on our way of life. Look, I
was a federal prosecutor. We had to deal with cartels
and the violence that they were carrying out and the
kidnappings and what they were perpetrating against the American people.
So yes, there is an organized attack from foreign actors
to target our people, including our law enforcement officials and
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our elected officials. Ask people in South Texas. Been going
on for years, and now I think it is much
more coordinated, much more networked. Now let's look at the
domestic side. I don't know if you saw the Law
enforcem Legal Defense Fund put out a report two weeks
ago about something called the ren Collective, and that is
a network of leftists Marxists that are specifically putting you know,
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das and judges in place to let criminals out on
our streets and importantly have a plan on how to
do it. They put these bad das and judges in place,
and then they really just give them the playbook and
they tell them what to do. That's all connected to
the Soros funding. That whole network exists. That network has overlapping,
concentric circles with a network of the two hundred and
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fifty or more organizations that were a part of dumping
millions of people into our country, including violent gang members
and so forth under the Biden open borders policy. Now
take that whole network, which is more domestically centered, and
now go tell me, if we follow the money, it's
not going to be connected to the foreign actors, and
I'm with you, I don't believe that. In other words,
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I believe that they are. I mean, I believe that
they are connected, and so I think we've got to
follow the money. You might have seen a couple of
weeks ago I called on a for a special select
committee to come together to target the actions of these
radical Marxists and leftists and what they're doing to undermine
our way of life and target conservatives. And this is
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in the wake of Charlie getting shot. But I think
it could be even bigger than what I described, Like,
we need to follow the money in all directions. We
need a concerted effort by our executive branch, law enforcement
officials all the way up, but also Congress doing its job,
and it's part to expose it to the people that
this is not an accident.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
This is not just a couple of random people. This
is organized.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
The Southern Property Law Center is doing what it's doing,
and as a result, the Family Research Council got shot
up a decade ago, and as a result, Charlie Kirk
gets shot. Antifa is doing what it's doing, and it's
doing it on purpose, and it's not just an accident.
It's coordinated. So I think we've got to go follow
the money. You know, when you see those when you're
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a prosecutor, you're trying to go prosecute cartels or say
a mob ring and the mafia, and you got one
of those great, big whiteboards where you're connecting all the dots.
That's what we need to do on a grand scale,
across the entire spectrum in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No, I agree, and I think we'll probably be alarmed
with what we'll find out. I know that the Treasury
Sexuary is, you know, working with the Department of Homeland
Security and trying to dig into all this, so we'll
see what comes to that. You're currently running for attorney
general in Texas. There's the Democratic candidate for attorney general
in Virginia has been on the record and release text
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messages for wishing the death upon a Republican opponent, even
saying that he deserves to get two bullets to the head,
also saying that he wished to see the Republican.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Opponent's children die.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And then also it has just been revealed talking about
how police he wanted to see police officers die. How
can someone like that be an attorney general of a state.
When he wishes people he disagrees with to die, he cannot.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, he cannot. I mean that's just the truth. Look,
and I live in a world right when we're in
this world of social media and Twitter and communication, and
you know, people pop off and they say some things
that you know, they can say they regret. This is
a line much beyond that. And I think it's absolutely
egregious that not one entity, organization or Democrat official in
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the Commonwealth of Virginia have called on him to step aside.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
It's pretty absurd really, because there is no defense.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He literally said, literally said that he wanted this political
opponent's children to get killed so that they could feel
the pain. Like, think about that. But I can't possibly
imagine that, right I, for the life of me, I
don't understand.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
You know, the guy.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Know, Abigail, we disagree on so many things. I've worked
with her before. Obviously I'm strongly backing with some Seers
and the Republicans in the Commonwealth. But I can't imagine, ever,
in my most fit of frustration with Abigail say ever,
thinking and writing and communicating. Man, you know, she just
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she's got to feel the pain. I hope her I
hope her kids get killed. I mean, it's just, it's
just that is psychopathic thinking. You have no business being
the attorney general of a state, much less a state
of the historical importance in the little cradle of democracy
and republic of a republican form of government in Virginia,
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and for that guy to think that he can possibly
be the attorney general. What worries me is that he
can still get elected because of how many you know,
leftists exist up in northern Virginia and a handful down
to Charlottesville. I hate to say, as a University of
Virginia graduate, they're pretty they're pretty pretty crazy in Charlottesville.
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I'm afraid that there's too many leftists and they're going
to actually still vote for this guy. But you know,
has Larry Sabado called on him to step out.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I haven't seen it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean, I worry he is going to get elected.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And to your point, it's very scary that there's not
an immediate call for him to resign from Democrats in
the state, and in fact, they're like saying they're solidly
standing behind him. And it's just terrifying because I think
we're saying a lot of scary things sort of align
on the left. It's sort of like this dehumanization of others.
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This dehumanization started with President Trump and then extended to
his supporters, and now we're seeing it with ice agents
as well. So you have sort of this dehumanization and
then also like just the descent as it's a what
am I trying to say, They're becoming desensitized yep to
human loss and like you know with Charlie, Oh, we
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saw the reaction after Charlie was murdered of Oh, he
deserved it, you know, Oh, well he was a fascist.
And we saw this from you know, uh, a surgeon,
and we saw this from teachers. We saw this from
people and positions of you know, some authority, right, and
and and when you when you combine those two, I
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just worry that we're going to see more of that.
We're going to see more of these assassinations and then
they're going to say, well, they deserved it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, again, this is goes back a little bit to
what I was trying to say earlier. I think still
somewhat and artfully when I'm trying to explain the war
on our way of life, that evil exists and that
this Marxist Islamist radical worldview. Uh, they're not going to stop. Okay,
we have to recognize that war. And I will say,
as I said, to Charlie's credit, he understood it.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know, I think back in July, was it that
he went over to London and engaged in debates at
Oxford and a few other places and was willing to
take it on. And look, obviously, you know, the radicals
got to him. And I've been telling people out across
Texas as I'm campaigning for Attorney General, which is another
reason I feel so strongly that he should step down.
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It's just insane that you could, you know, think that
you could be the chief law enforcement officer, the chief
legal officer in each state's a little different how it's structured,
but and think that you could stand up and be
an advocate for the rule of law. Having said that,
it's insane. I mean, and as I'm going around a
campaigning across the state of Texas, I'm reminding people, you know,
what are we willing to risk. I don't want my
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children to grow up in a despotic tyrannical Marxist hellhole.
That's not when my great great grandfather came to you know,
Hayes County, Texas outside of Austin in the eighteen fifties.
It's not why he's saddled up to become a Texas
It's not why my grandfather was a police chief. Its's
not why my family sacrificed over one hundred and seventy
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years in tough Texas terrain to figure out how to
build a life so that we can have a bunch
of totalitarian statusts come tell us how to live, or
that we've got to adhere to Sharia law that a
man is not a man and a woman is not
a woman. And oh, by the way, if you try
to kill a Supreme Court justice, don't worry about it
out factoring the fact that you're you know, oh you're
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not all together because of oh this plight you have
of your you know, transgender whatever it is. It's just
this is insanity, and we have got to reclaim our
rightful places, Americans and recognize the war that's being waged
against this.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
We're learning that Fox News recently learned that Jack Smith
and his Arctic Frost team investigating January sixth. We're tracking
the phone calls of some members of Congress like Lindsay
Graham or Shall black Burn, Ron Johnson, and a few
others as well. We also look at the fact that
comy Is has been indicted, facing one count of making
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false statements in one count of obstruction of justice, stemming
from some testimony he gave in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you think, you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Know, obviously these are you know, two different things, but
sort of part of the same weaponization that we saw
under the Biden administration. Do you think there will be
any accountability in any of that?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Well, people, one can certainly hope that this administration will
carry out the kind of accountability that I think is due.
I will say this, I saw that report yesterday obviously
that was put out by Chuck Rassley, and then all
the news that flowed from that over the last twenty
four hours, and I gotta admit I didn't really pounce
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because I know people are getting a little tired of
like members of.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Congress who go, ah, it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It is terrible, and then you know, we're gonna, what
have a resolution of condemnation, Like people are just getting
tired of that. Scott Perry is one of my best
friends in Washington. Just great American patriot, you know, veteran
conservative congressman from Pennsylvania. Represents a you know, R plus
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four district, but he brings the heat. When I was
first in Congress, I spent four years representing a R
plus four district that's you know, that had Austin in it,
and I brought the heat. And so we're kind of
compatriots and being conservatives in moderate areas. Now my district
is more conservative. But the bottom line is, we've got
to have accountability. Now, there's somewhat of a limit to
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what you can do in Congress. Right our hands have
been tied somewhat with subpoenas by the court. You've got,
you know, if you're not willing to use the power
of the purse most mostly often we're not, it's hard
to have accountability. And that usually only works when you've
got the other party in the executive branch. So right
now we've got President Trump, and we've got cash, and
we've got Pam bonding, and we've got, as you pointed out,
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Scott best in terms of treasury, all these ways in
which we can go pursue the truth, and I think
we've got to pursue the truth. And I think we've
got to have some heads roll for some of the
things that were carried out against the American people. You
can't have the government spying on the United States senators.
It's absurd, right. I mean, I remember when my text
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messages were released that I had had exchanges with Mark Meadows,
and now Mark voluntarily released those, by the way, and
that's fine, And you know, we went back and forth,
and what it showed was I was working hard to
try to figure out the nature of the mail and
fraud and the fraud perpetrated in the twenty twenty elections.
As we built up to figuring out how everything was unfolding,
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I ultimately disagreed with the idea that we should reject
the electors because I don't think we should empower the
vice president to make that decision. That's not what this
whole conversation is about. But it's important for the context
that my text messages were released in.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Which I was saying.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I think I said, quote, hey, we need more work,
we need give us the AMO, I think was one
of my quotes. And the New York Times in the
posts were like this guy is you know, he's asking
for Amo to go, you know, try to you know,
take down the Biden presidency and on and so forth.
These guys want to come after any of one of
us who challenged the regime. And now you've got not
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just Scott Perry in the House and other House members,
but you got these senators. And I think heads need
to roll, and I hope the executive branch will take action.
I hope Congress will too. We need to have hearings,
we need to expose it, but we need action. The
American people are tired of talk.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
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Speaker 2 (27:37):
Member or friend. You mentioned Shria law earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I know that you've co sponsored legislation from Representative Fine
to ensure that no US court, public agency, legal institution
can ever enforce or legitimize taria law. Also in the
state of Texas, Governor Abbott signed a bill and a
law to ban residential property developments from creating Sharia compounds
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and defrauding and discriminating against Texans. You know, why do
you think that this is getting sort of renewed focused
or why is there more attention being paid to concerns
around Sharia law right now?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, it's because there is a specific effort for the Islamists,
and by Islamists, I mean the not someone who just
adheres him to a belief and is Islam, And we
can have a debate about that itself, but the Islamists
and the Sharia law adherents who are political, okay, which
is by the way, directly in conflict with our Constitution
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and the Decoration and anathetical to our American values. So yes,
I go sponsored that legislation, which I think, by the way,
is somewhat redundant. It's a federal law saying hey, Sharia
is not applicable in any of our courts. I don't
think he's applicable in our courts anyway under the Constitution,
but it's important for Congress to state that. So I
applaud Cogsman Fine and the colleagues of mine who joined
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in co sponsoring. I've got legislation I'm going to introduce
next week, maybe even tomorrow, trying to get it drafted
and finalized that will severely restrict or make more difficult
through vetting process, the ability of anybody who adheres to Sharia,
anybody who adheres to the Islamist kind of politically motivated efforts,
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from being admitted to the United States. Now, why to
answer your question, why is this a problem? Well, you
see it in Dearborn, you see it in Minneapolis, you
see it in Epic City. Reference the bill in Texas
that Governor Abbott signed to restrict this thing. It's called
Epic City for those who don't know. It's a compound
like four hundred acres outside of Plano, Texas, used to
be known as a conservative Bashian suburban north of Dallas,
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and it's the East Plano Islamic Center, I think is
what Epic stands for. And it was basically going to
be a massive kind of compound to his Sharia adherents.
And so this legislation has passed and said, well, you
can't do that. The problem is is I'm not sure
it's going to stop it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
It might stop it to a degree, but they're gonna,
i think, continue to develop. Uh They're going to say, yeah,
we're not gonna do Sharia.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
But but then they are.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And so we're gonna have to work through that, to
set the Trade Practices Act, other things you can do
in the AG's office. But we've got a lot we
need to do to combat this. Then let's just cut
to the chase, right when when that the problem with
Islam is that it is it is political at its core,
with a goal of you know, crushing the West, right,
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And that's that's the that's the truth. I mean, why
do you think we're seeing what's unfolding in Syria or Nigeria.
Why do you think we're seeing this cleansing of Christians?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Do we think that somehow America is going to be
immune from that? I mean, like Boko Haram, Right, that's
a I think basically translates to, like, you know, Western
education or Western civilization is is you know, sacrilege, right,
It's something like that. That's what it literally translates to.
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And I don't think people recognize this, and it's all
a part of the process. Once there's a majority of
the Muslim population. Go look at London, go look at parents,
Go see what's happening. Go understand what's happening with the
push of Islam into Western civilization, into America, and you'll
know that that war is being waged against us and
we're not responding.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
How much of an increase concern and threat is this
all considering we just had wide open borders for four
years under Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Massive massive concern because you have people who came here legally,
that's a problem. You have people who came here legally
who overstay their vices, that's a problem. You have people
who are released into the United States and came here legally,
either through the SIV, which is the Special Interest I
think visas after Afghanistan, or other h one b all
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the big workers, the big corporatists. Don't get me started
on corporatism. We should do a whole other podcast interview
on corporatism. But all of that has had literally hundreds
of thousands, millions of people coming into our country that
are in fact adherents to Sharia or they're certainly hardcore
in their beliefs in Islam. And then we saw last
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week USCIS pointed out that there was massive fraud and
a whole lot of what we call diversity applications and
chain migration where it's like, oh, my wife needs to
come here, And then you had people marrying under false pretenses.
Obviously there's all the rumors about elon Omar, but we
know that there was fraud perpetrated. And so you have
this expanding population, and then you have birthright citizenship and
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anchor babies, and you have this massive growing population, and
it's a problem if you believe in our Western civilization values,
if you believe in Christ as our savior, if you
believe that our Judeo Christian principles and the founding principles
of this country and the declaration of the Constitution are
sacer sanct and central to our being and our communities.
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I mean, look, you're going to be waking up to
a mosque on every block with all of their traditions
and all of the you know, prayer calls and all
of the stuff going on, and then inserting into the schools.
You see what's happening in DFW airport or essentially a
religious like you know, non denominational prayer room, which historically
would have been Episcopalians and Baptists being able to pray
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in the same realm. Now you've got freaking prayer mats
and it's being taken over by Muslim adherents and Islamic
adherence and you've now got a total change in our culture,
and I think that's going to be destructive to who
we are as a people, and we need to reconcile that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's your point.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
DHS did a sweep in Minneapolis Saint Paul are and
found that fifty percent of immigrants had committed some sort
of immigration fraud.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Right, so pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, they visited one thousand homes across Minneapolis and Saint
Paul and found nearly fifty percent of inhabitants were engaged
in some sort of immigration fraud.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
The press conference for them was a guy named Joe
edlow Is, the head of USCIS, was a good friend
of mine, worked together, he was a staffer on the House.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You just share a committee.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Great guy and they you know, we've talked about this
back before he was confirmed, and they've gone through, done
the research, done the review, and they're putting that out there.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We got to act, right, what are we going to do.
You find that fraud, and you prove up the fraud,
then we need to remove these people, right, because fraud
is fraud and you shouldn't be the beneficiary of your
fraudulen act absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I want to end on the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's allowed us to have some time to re have
you on the podcast today, but you know, maybe not
the best for the country. How do you think this
will end? You know, what are the off rams and
who do you think has more leverage right now in
this shutdown fight.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Republicans will hold the line and Republicans will stand behind
the president. I believe we have the leverage. And here's
why I think new Gigbridge said it very well actually
when he said, look, Democrats have picked a fight on
two things the American people don't like. The American people
generally don't like a shutdown fair enough, right, We've got
a deal trup pay that gets that expires and it's
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you know, it's destabilizing. And the American people also don't
like proplgate increased government spending. So Democrats have picked a
shutdown fight to spend more money. Both to give money
to illegal aliens for health care. But importantly, and I'm
saying this more than some of my colleagues are, because
they're afraid to talk about healthcare and I'm not, they're
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doing it to expand the COVID era subsidies under Obamacare.
They're taking that massive expansion. They want to extend it,
and all that money goes into the pockets of insurance companies.
So basically, they want to have rich insurance companies and
fund illegal aliens health care, and they're shutting down the
government to accomplish those objectives. I don't see that as
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having the upper hand so long as Republicans hold a lot.
What I worry is that Republicans will claim victory on
stopping illegal aliens from getting health care, which, by the way,
we got a lot of those victories in the big
beautiful Bill working together with the President and is a
great team to do it. But I worry that some
of our more moderate members will say, well, we'll stop
that or which, by the way, was never going to happen.
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We were never gonna give into the democrats demands to
give health care to i llegal aliens, but instead that
they'll then try to cut a deal and say, well,
but these subsidies are important, so let's have more subsidies.
No Republicans ever voted for one of these subsidies, and
we shouldn't. Now they're driving up the cost of health care,
empowering insurance companies, empowering mega hospital corporations at the expense
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of doctors and patients. And that is why you can't
afford healthcare. That's why the average family forcements twenty five
thousand dollars a year on insurance to get a massive
deductible and a massive copay, to have to call some
person in either to Peak or India to beg to
find out which doctor they can actually use in a network,
and have to drive an hour to go see this
doctor that they didn't have a choice in choosing. That's
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what Obamacare has given us. We have the upper hand.
We should hold the line. No more subsidies, no more
illegals getting paid. Democrats shut down the government. It's their choice.
Let them explain to soldiers when their paycheck doesn't come
in on October fifteenth that they're not getting paid because
they want illegals to have health care or they want
insurance companies to get rich. I don't think they can
win that if we hold the line.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I agree, So hopefully you know your colleagues will listen
to that and we'll hold the line. Congressmanship, Roy, appreciate
you for taking the time. Thanks for you know, obviously
a lot going on. As we started the show, with
saying so appreciate you taking the time to give us
your insight into all these different issues facing the country
in the world right now.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Well, thanks for all you do. Thanks for your show.
It's so important for you to get the message out, Lisa.
You do a great job and happy to come on anytime.
Goble us.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And then before we go, obviously you're running for Attorney
General in Texas. Where can people find information for that?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Shiproy dot com or on Twitter slash x I still
call it both Chip Roy t X, c h I
p R O I t X. Appreciate it and you know,
momma Congress another fourteen fifteen months fighting and to look
forward to serving the people of Texas statewide as the
attorney general.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Thanks Lisa.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
That was Congressman ship Roy running for Attorney General in
the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Appreciate him for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Appreciate you guys for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but
you can listen throughout the week. I also want to
thank John Cassie and my producer for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Until next time,
Welcome to the Truth with Lisa Booth, where we get
to the heart of the issues that matter to you. Today,
we're joined by Congressman ship Roy to tackle a lot,
a lot going on in the country, a lot going around,
a lot going on in the world as well. Two
years officially since the October seventh terror attacks in Israel,
the Trump administration is engaged in negotiations right now to
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get the remaining hostages returned to Israel and to end
the conflict. What does Chip Roy think will happen with that?
Also dive into this assassination culture that's brewing in America
right now, starting with the attorney another attorney general race
in the state of Virginia where the Democrat candidate there
is on record wishing for the death of a Republican
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opponent and that opponent's children. And then there's this shocking
eight year sentence for the man who plotted to assassinate
Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Why did the judge factor in President
Trump's transgender prison policies?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What does that say about our legal system?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So there was a lot to cover, and we're going
to dig into all of it with Congressman ship Roy,
who is running for Attorney General.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
In the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Stay tuned, Congressman Ship Roy, It's always great to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
On this show. Always love your candidness.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
A lot going on in the country, in the world
right now, so looking forward to your insight into all
of it. And I wanted to start off just with
two years since the October seventh terror attacks. Right now
that the Trump administration is trying to hammer out negotiations
and details of you know, ceasefire, some sort of peace plan,
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returning the hostages.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What do you think is going to happen with all
of this?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Obviously, you know there's good reason to sort of be
cautiously optimistic about everything.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, thanks for starting with that question. It's such an
important rememberance what actually occurred on October seventh to not
just our friends in Israel, but to American citizens. And
when people question, like why is this battle going on?
Remember the horrors that unfolded on October seventh? And you
asked me, what do I think will happen? And I
want to start with the credit that is due President
Trump in his history of working out solutions in the
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Middle East, the Abraham Accords, notably bringing Arab nations together
along with Israel to create a new paradigm where you've
got travel going between the countries, and then he's got
a track record of success in figuring out how to
get these parties together. So I'm hopeful that the meetings
that are occurring right now can yield that kind of result.
But it should be noted that over the last forty
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eight hours, I've seen some absurd demands out of amaz.
Oh yeah, sure, we'll release the hostages. If you release
the murderers who killed a lot of our innocent Israeli citizens.
That's absurd and that's a non starter. HAMAS has to
know that. So I hope that in the negotiations they're
able to reach a solution. But that solution must begin
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and end with the national security interests of the United States,
the security interests of Israel, ensuring that HAMAS is no
longer an organized entity and is no longer carrying out
terrorist threats and terrorist attacks on Israel.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
They need all of that to end.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
They need to release the hostages, and then we need
to get busy, you know, trying to figure out how
to move forward.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
The thing I don't understand about, you know, some of
the conversations around surrounding Israel. Is the idea that like
two years it's been too long of a war, like
too you know, like we after nine to eleven, which
is you know, the equivalent of what happened in Israel
in terms of like obviously they have much smaller population.
So if that word to have happened here we're talking,
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I think it's like, you know, over forty five thousand
people that would have died.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And so like to say that two years is just
too long of a time.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
We engaged in like a twenty year war after nine
to eleven. You could certainly make the argument that we
didn't need to be at war that long, and there
was a lot of mistakes that it took place, but
like two years is not a long period of time
when you have twelve hundred of her people slaughtered, you know,
people kidnapped, like you're women raped and you know, children murdered,
right like like so I don't understand the idea that
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somehow like it's just too long of a war and
Israel needs to lay down their arms.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, I mean, look that I think it is very
much up to the people of Israel. Obviously, we have
a vest at interest instability and peace. Obviously, some of
our treasure goes to supporting Israel, or has historically at least,
But to say that Israel shouldn't be doing everything necessary
to wipe out Amas, I just disagree with. And I
know there's some Americans who think that Israel's being maybe
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too aggressive or or trying to, you know, carry this
out and in too long of a time, or they've
been too aggressive in Gaza. But look, it's not the Israelis,
and it's not the Americans who built these tunnels under
schools and hospitals. It's not the Israelis or the Americans
who have perpetrated these horrific attacks on innocent people and
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carried out these threats of violence and whose aim Hamas
is to destroy or Israel.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Let's always remember that, right. I mean, if we had.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
The equivalent right across the border in Mexico. Now, by
the way, the cartels are pretty bad, but if we
had the equivalent in terms of jihad, and they wanted
to say, we're gonna wipe Texas off the map and
we're gonna fire missiles into Austin. But you guys, just
suck it up a deal. How long do you think
that would last, right, I mean, it's just absurd to
think about it. So we've got to recognize that reality.
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While also in this now me speaking, I don't believe
in endless wars, right. I think after nine to eleven,
we let that go move away from hey, let's go
take out the bad guys, and turned into this like
twenty year nation building, let's remake the Middle East guys.
We weren't gonna do that, and so we spent twenty
years in a you know, seven trillion dollars and I
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think we should have had that be a lot shorter.
So I think the president's rights trying to draw to
a close. I think the president rights to negotiate. I
think the president has a successful track record, but let's
make sure it's good terms. Otherwise the deal shouldn't be struck.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, and I don't believe in endos wars either. It's
just like the idea that Israel is supposed to live
alongside Hamas and in any sort of like governing position.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's just, yeah, it's like absurd.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But you know, I wanted to ask you obviously after
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which, by the way, like
this environment is something that's you know, been brewing, right.
You can go back to twenty seventeen when the Bernie
supporter tried to gun down some of your colleagues, you know,
Congressman Steve Scleese and you know Lee Zelden was almost
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stabbed on the campaign, right, Like, there's a whole long
list of things that have taken place to create and
foster this environment. But recently, the man who tried to
assassinate Justice Brett Kavana and other members of the High Court, who,
by the way, it was like totally premeditated, right. I mean,
this guy flew out from California to the DC area.
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He had all these Google searches, you know, purchase weapons
on multiple occasions. On nine different occasions, he bought weapons,
made Google searches about serial killers and mass shootings. There's
messages about him talking about how we could change the
makeup of the court if there was you know, one
less conservative on the court. But so this judge only
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gives him eight years and even references.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
The judge said she.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Factored into the sentence her concern about Trump's executive order
requiring transgender inmates to be detained in prisons that correspond
to their sex at birth, because this guy Nicholas now
says that he's Sophie, Like, what the hell, congressman eight
years for a very premeditated, you know, attempted assassination of
a Supreme Court justice, and then a reference to the
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fact that this guy you know allegedly says he's now Sophie,
as you know, some sort of reason to give him
a lighter sentence, like what is happening and what does
that tell you about, you know, the colonel justice system
in the world of law right now?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, Well, first of all, thanks for starting with the
connection to Charlie Charlie Kirk, because what happened there was
the build up, as you rightly note, of a long
time of this building to this moment. The radical left
is Marxist left. They are organized, and they're organized with
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a mission to take out conservatives and to take out
people that frankly disagree with them, and they want to
attack the American way of life. Charlie was killed because
he was willing to call all this out and stand
up on college campuses and proclaim the gospel and stand
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up for the constitutional order. And I think that's an
important predicate for what we're dealing with this radical judge
Deborah Bordman, I think it's disqualified, even impeachable. In fact,
I think it is in fact impeachable as a violation
of the constitutional clause for judges of holding the office
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under good behavior. For her to have basically said, I
discount the reality of truth, man and woman, I'm going
to set aside the importance of security and enforcing the law,
one of the principal roles of a judge. For an
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obvious assassination attempt that was organized as you laid out,
and had all the evidence that made clear that it
was purposeful, and she ignored that to basically put forward
her own worldview over top of the law. That's not
good behavior. That's not what we should see out of
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judges who are supposed to enforce the law. It was
an instance of a judge allowing her ideology to subvert
the truth, and that's irreconcilable with the bedrock function of
the judicial process, and it violates, in my opinion, the
constitutional standard for continuing some judicial office of good behavior.
(10:13):
Like I said, and I think this is a larger
narrative that we need to be mindful of the war
being waged against our way of life. You brought up Charlie.
The last text exchange I had with Charlie of substance
that wasn't just a trivial exchange was about, yes, this
attack and the sort of Marxist attack, but it was
a step further. Was the Islamist and advance of Shria
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a law attack on our way of life. I think
it's all kind of one and the same. I think
these things are related, and I think it's a Marxist
Islamist attack on the American way of life that I
think is central to what we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It also, I feel like the judge also noted the
fact that, you know, Nicholas called nine to eleven and
turned to himself in as a reason to give him
a lighter sentence.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But if you look at what happened.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
He saw law enforcement outside of the House of Breakafana,
so like, you know, you know what I mean, like so,
and apparently law enforcements all him. So like, I don't
understand why you would get leniency when the nine to
eleven call seemed to be well, like, inevitably he was
probably gonna get busted regardless, And it's better to call
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nine one one turn yourself in, then you know what
I mean, Like, it doesn't seem like that was just
out of like a change of horror and a you know,
a this guy.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah. So it's like, I don't get why that would
be factored in.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Because this judge is accepting the delusional fiction that a
man has become a woman and that that fiction is
a proper factor considering sentencing. That's why it's insanity Like
this is this is a break from the foundational principles
of our republic. That's what's actually happening. And I think
that's what we've got to recognize when we when we
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try to think through what we're dealing with here. If
you were to ask a conservative like me, and I
won't speak for you or anybody else listening, hey, what
do you think is the standard for impeaching judges? I
would be pretty reticent over the years of saying, wow,
I mean, look, that's a big that's a big leap, right.
But I've been studying and looking at this, and when
you look at the power of judges, hat and impeaching
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a judge is not the same as the president, right,
It's not just high crime misdemeanors. There's a specific clause
in there for good behavior, and I think this is
directly in violation of that. So that's no small thing. Okay,
this is this is actually somewhat newsworthy. The chairman of
the Subcommittee of the Constitutions, Subcommittee on the House, you
just sharing committee, believes that this is impeachable, and I
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don't take that lightly. That's how crazy what we saw
unfold is got.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
To take a quick commercial break, more a congressmanship roy.
On the other side, I co hosting Fox and Friends
over the weekend, and Secretary Nome came on and she
broke some news that had all of our jaws, you know,
dropped to the floor, had her mouths drop to the floor.
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She said that some officers and agents have had bounties
put on their head, two thousand dollars to kidnap them,
ten thousand to kill them, that their pictures have been
released through networks. I had asked her, you know who's
behind it, obviously, and she said it's gangs, it's cartel members,
it's foreign terrorist organizations, and that they're working with the
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Treasury Department to try to dig into some of the
financing and the possible coordination. How much of what we're
seeing internally with this domestic terrorism in cities like Portland
and Chicago is linked to potential foreign terrorism with whether
it's these cartels or other you know, terrorist organizations. Do
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you think there's a link between the two, and what
do you think we're going to find out out with
some of this investigation investigators, Well.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Let's start with what we know. We know that foreign
terist organizations, including, by the way, cartels, which the President
was right to designate them as foreign terist organizations. By
the way, I introduced that legislation in twenty nineteen, and
I was derided by Republicans who said, well, that's crazy,
we can't do that. They're not foreign terrrist organizations. Chip
you know, they're not the same as what we're dealing
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with in the Middle East. And I'm like, yes, yes
they are, and they are in fact having a much
more direct impact on our way of life. Look, I
was a federal prosecutor. We had to deal with cartels
and the violence that they were carrying out and the
kidnappings and what they were perpetrating against the American people.
So yes, there is an organized attack from foreign actors
to target our people, including our law enforcement officials and
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our elected officials. Ask people in South Texas. Been going
on for years, and now I think it is much
more coordinated, much more networked. Now let's look at the
domestic side. I don't know if you saw the Law
enforcem Legal Defense Fund put out a report two weeks
ago about something called the ren Collective, and that is
a network of leftists Marxists that are specifically putting you know,
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das and judges in place to let criminals out on
our streets and importantly have a plan on how to
do it. They put these bad das and judges in place,
and then they really just give them the playbook and
they tell them what to do. That's all connected to
the Soros funding. That whole network exists. That network has overlapping,
concentric circles with a network of the two hundred and
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fifty or more organizations that were a part of dumping
millions of people into our country, including violent gang members
and so forth under the Biden open borders policy. Now
take that whole network, which is more domestically centered, and
now go tell me, if we follow the money, it's
not going to be connected to the foreign actors, and
I'm with you, I don't believe that. In other words,
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I believe that they are. I mean, I believe that
they are connected, and so I think we've got to
follow the money. You might have seen a couple of
weeks ago I called on a for a special select
committee to come together to target the actions of these
radical Marxists and leftists and what they're doing to undermine
our way of life and target conservatives. And this is
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in the wake of Charlie getting shot. But I think
it could be even bigger than what I described, Like,
we need to follow the money in all directions. We
need a concerted effort by our executive branch, law enforcement
officials all the way up, but also Congress doing its job,
and it's part to expose it to the people that
this is not an accident.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
This is not just a couple of random people. This
is organized.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
The Southern Property Law Center is doing what it's doing,
and as a result, the Family Research Council got shot
up a decade ago, and as a result, Charlie Kirk
gets shot. Antifa is doing what it's doing, and it's
doing it on purpose, and it's not just an accident.
It's coordinated. So I think we've got to go follow
the money. You know, when you see those when you're
(16:59):
a prosecutor, you're trying to go prosecute cartels or say
a mob ring and the mafia, and you got one
of those great, big whiteboards where you're connecting all the dots.
That's what we need to do on a grand scale,
across the entire spectrum in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
No, I agree, and I think we'll probably be alarmed
with what we'll find out. I know that the Treasury
Sexuary is, you know, working with the Department of Homeland
Security and trying to dig into all this, so we'll
see what comes to that. You're currently running for attorney
general in Texas. There's the Democratic candidate for attorney general
in Virginia has been on the record and release text
(17:36):
messages for wishing the death upon a Republican opponent, even
saying that he deserves to get two bullets to the head,
also saying that he wished to see the Republican.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Opponent's children die.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And then also it has just been revealed talking about
how police he wanted to see police officers die. How
can someone like that be an attorney general of a state.
When he wishes people he disagrees with to die, he cannot.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, he cannot. I mean that's just the truth. Look,
and I live in a world right when we're in
this world of social media and Twitter and communication, and
you know, people pop off and they say some things
that you know, they can say they regret. This is
a line much beyond that. And I think it's absolutely
egregious that not one entity, organization or Democrat official in
(18:36):
the Commonwealth of Virginia have called on him to step aside.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
It's pretty absurd really, because there is no defense.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He literally said, literally said that he wanted this political
opponent's children to get killed so that they could feel
the pain. Like, think about that. But I can't possibly
imagine that, right I, for the life of me, I
don't understand.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
You know, the guy.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Know, Abigail, we disagree on so many things. I've worked
with her before. Obviously I'm strongly backing with some Seers
and the Republicans in the Commonwealth. But I can't imagine, ever,
in my most fit of frustration with Abigail say ever,
thinking and writing and communicating. Man, you know, she just
(19:26):
she's got to feel the pain. I hope her I
hope her kids get killed. I mean, it's just, it's
just that is psychopathic thinking. You have no business being
the attorney general of a state, much less a state
of the historical importance in the little cradle of democracy
and republic of a republican form of government in Virginia,
(19:47):
and for that guy to think that he can possibly
be the attorney general. What worries me is that he
can still get elected because of how many you know,
leftists exist up in northern Virginia and a handful down
to Charlottesville. I hate to say, as a University of
Virginia graduate, they're pretty they're pretty pretty crazy in Charlottesville.
(20:07):
I'm afraid that there's too many leftists and they're going
to actually still vote for this guy. But you know,
has Larry Sabado called on him to step out.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I haven't seen it. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I mean, I worry he is going to get elected.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And to your point, it's very scary that there's not
an immediate call for him to resign from Democrats in
the state, and in fact, they're like saying they're solidly
standing behind him. And it's just terrifying because I think
we're saying a lot of scary things sort of align
on the left. It's sort of like this dehumanization of others.
(20:44):
This dehumanization started with President Trump and then extended to
his supporters, and now we're seeing it with ice agents
as well. So you have sort of this dehumanization and
then also like just the descent as it's a what
am I trying to say, They're becoming desensitized yep to
human loss and like you know with Charlie, Oh, we
(21:05):
saw the reaction after Charlie was murdered of Oh, he
deserved it, you know, Oh, well he was a fascist.
And we saw this from you know, uh, a surgeon,
and we saw this from teachers. We saw this from
people and positions of you know, some authority, right, and
and and when you when you combine those two, I
(21:27):
just worry that we're going to see more of that.
We're going to see more of these assassinations and then
they're going to say, well, they deserved it.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Well, again, this is goes back a little bit to
what I was trying to say earlier. I think still
somewhat and artfully when I'm trying to explain the war
on our way of life, that evil exists and that
this Marxist Islamist radical worldview. Uh, they're not going to stop. Okay,
we have to recognize that war. And I will say,
as I said, to Charlie's credit, he understood it.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know, I think back in July, was it that
he went over to London and engaged in debates at
Oxford and a few other places and was willing to
take it on. And look, obviously, you know, the radicals
got to him. And I've been telling people out across
Texas as I'm campaigning for Attorney General, which is another
reason I feel so strongly that he should step down.
(22:20):
It's just insane that you could, you know, think that
you could be the chief law enforcement officer, the chief
legal officer in each state's a little different how it's structured,
but and think that you could stand up and be
an advocate for the rule of law. Having said that,
it's insane. I mean, and as I'm going around a
campaigning across the state of Texas, I'm reminding people, you know,
what are we willing to risk. I don't want my
(22:44):
children to grow up in a despotic tyrannical Marxist hellhole.
That's not when my great great grandfather came to you know,
Hayes County, Texas outside of Austin in the eighteen fifties.
It's not why he's saddled up to become a Texas
It's not why my grandfather was a police chief. Its's
not why my family sacrificed over one hundred and seventy
(23:06):
years in tough Texas terrain to figure out how to
build a life so that we can have a bunch
of totalitarian statusts come tell us how to live, or
that we've got to adhere to Sharia law that a
man is not a man and a woman is not
a woman. And oh, by the way, if you try
to kill a Supreme Court justice, don't worry about it
out factoring the fact that you're you know, oh you're
(23:28):
not all together because of oh this plight you have
of your you know, transgender whatever it is. It's just
this is insanity, and we have got to reclaim our
rightful places, Americans and recognize the war that's being waged
against this.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
We're learning that Fox News recently learned that Jack Smith
and his Arctic Frost team investigating January sixth. We're tracking
the phone calls of some members of Congress like Lindsay
Graham or Shall black Burn, Ron Johnson, and a few
others as well. We also look at the fact that
comy Is has been indicted, facing one count of making
(24:09):
false statements in one count of obstruction of justice, stemming
from some testimony he gave in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Do you think, you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Know, obviously these are you know, two different things, but
sort of part of the same weaponization that we saw
under the Biden administration. Do you think there will be
any accountability in any of that?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Well, people, one can certainly hope that this administration will
carry out the kind of accountability that I think is due.
I will say this, I saw that report yesterday obviously
that was put out by Chuck Rassley, and then all
the news that flowed from that over the last twenty
four hours, and I gotta admit I didn't really pounce
(24:52):
because I know people are getting a little tired of
like members of.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Congress who go, ah, it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It is terrible, and then you know, we're gonna, what
have a resolution of condemnation, Like people are just getting
tired of that. Scott Perry is one of my best
friends in Washington. Just great American patriot, you know, veteran
conservative congressman from Pennsylvania. Represents a you know, R plus
(25:18):
four district, but he brings the heat. When I was
first in Congress, I spent four years representing a R
plus four district that's you know, that had Austin in it,
and I brought the heat. And so we're kind of
compatriots and being conservatives in moderate areas. Now my district
is more conservative. But the bottom line is, we've got
to have accountability. Now, there's somewhat of a limit to
(25:39):
what you can do in Congress. Right our hands have
been tied somewhat with subpoenas by the court. You've got,
you know, if you're not willing to use the power
of the purse most mostly often we're not, it's hard
to have accountability. And that usually only works when you've
got the other party in the executive branch. So right
now we've got President Trump, and we've got cash, and
we've got Pam bonding, and we've got, as you pointed out,
(26:00):
Scott best in terms of treasury, all these ways in
which we can go pursue the truth, and I think
we've got to pursue the truth. And I think we've
got to have some heads roll for some of the
things that were carried out against the American people. You
can't have the government spying on the United States senators.
It's absurd, right. I mean, I remember when my text
(26:21):
messages were released that I had had exchanges with Mark Meadows,
and now Mark voluntarily released those, by the way, and
that's fine, And you know, we went back and forth,
and what it showed was I was working hard to
try to figure out the nature of the mail and
fraud and the fraud perpetrated in the twenty twenty elections.
As we built up to figuring out how everything was unfolding,
(26:45):
I ultimately disagreed with the idea that we should reject
the electors because I don't think we should empower the
vice president to make that decision. That's not what this
whole conversation is about. But it's important for the context
that my text messages were released in.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Which I was saying.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I think I said, quote, hey, we need more work,
we need give us the AMO, I think was one
of my quotes. And the New York Times in the
posts were like this guy is you know, he's asking
for Amo to go, you know, try to you know,
take down the Biden presidency and on and so forth.
These guys want to come after any of one of
us who challenged the regime. And now you've got not
(27:19):
just Scott Perry in the House and other House members,
but you got these senators. And I think heads need
to roll, and I hope the executive branch will take action.
I hope Congress will too. We need to have hearings,
we need to expose it, but we need action. The
American people are tired of talk.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Got to take a quick commercial break.
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Speaker 2 (27:37):
Member or friend. You mentioned Shria law earlier.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I know that you've co sponsored legislation from Representative Fine
to ensure that no US court, public agency, legal institution
can ever enforce or legitimize taria law. Also in the
state of Texas, Governor Abbott signed a bill and a
law to ban residential property developments from creating Sharia compounds
(28:03):
and defrauding and discriminating against Texans. You know, why do
you think that this is getting sort of renewed focused
or why is there more attention being paid to concerns
around Sharia law right now?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, it's because there is a specific effort for the Islamists,
and by Islamists, I mean the not someone who just
adheres him to a belief and is Islam, And we
can have a debate about that itself, but the Islamists
and the Sharia law adherents who are political, okay, which
is by the way, directly in conflict with our Constitution
(28:40):
and the Decoration and anathetical to our American values. So yes,
I go sponsored that legislation, which I think, by the way,
is somewhat redundant. It's a federal law saying hey, Sharia
is not applicable in any of our courts. I don't
think he's applicable in our courts anyway under the Constitution,
but it's important for Congress to state that. So I
applaud Cogsman Fine and the colleagues of mine who joined
(29:04):
in co sponsoring. I've got legislation I'm going to introduce
next week, maybe even tomorrow, trying to get it drafted
and finalized that will severely restrict or make more difficult
through vetting process, the ability of anybody who adheres to Sharia,
anybody who adheres to the Islamist kind of politically motivated efforts,
(29:27):
from being admitted to the United States. Now, why to
answer your question, why is this a problem? Well, you
see it in Dearborn, you see it in Minneapolis, you
see it in Epic City. Reference the bill in Texas
that Governor Abbott signed to restrict this thing. It's called
Epic City for those who don't know. It's a compound
like four hundred acres outside of Plano, Texas, used to
be known as a conservative Bashian suburban north of Dallas,
(29:51):
and it's the East Plano Islamic Center, I think is
what Epic stands for. And it was basically going to
be a massive kind of compound to his Sharia adherents.
And so this legislation has passed and said, well, you
can't do that. The problem is is I'm not sure
it's going to stop it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
It might stop it to a degree, but they're gonna,
i think, continue to develop. Uh They're going to say, yeah,
we're not gonna do Sharia.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
But but then they are.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And so we're gonna have to work through that, to
set the Trade Practices Act, other things you can do
in the AG's office. But we've got a lot we
need to do to combat this. Then let's just cut
to the chase, right when when that the problem with
Islam is that it is it is political at its core,
with a goal of you know, crushing the West, right,
(30:37):
And that's that's the that's the truth. I mean, why
do you think we're seeing what's unfolding in Syria or Nigeria.
Why do you think we're seeing this cleansing of Christians?
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Do we think that somehow America is going to be
immune from that? I mean, like Boko Haram, Right, that's
a I think basically translates to, like, you know, Western
education or Western civilization is is you know, sacrilege, right,
It's something like that. That's what it literally translates to.
(31:13):
And I don't think people recognize this, and it's all
a part of the process. Once there's a majority of
the Muslim population. Go look at London, go look at parents,
Go see what's happening. Go understand what's happening with the
push of Islam into Western civilization, into America, and you'll
know that that war is being waged against us and
we're not responding.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
How much of an increase concern and threat is this
all considering we just had wide open borders for four
years under Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Massive massive concern because you have people who came here legally,
that's a problem. You have people who came here legally
who overstay their vices, that's a problem. You have people
who are released into the United States and came here legally,
either through the SIV, which is the Special Interest I
think visas after Afghanistan, or other h one b all
(32:06):
the big workers, the big corporatists. Don't get me started
on corporatism. We should do a whole other podcast interview
on corporatism. But all of that has had literally hundreds
of thousands, millions of people coming into our country that
are in fact adherents to Sharia or they're certainly hardcore
in their beliefs in Islam. And then we saw last
(32:28):
week USCIS pointed out that there was massive fraud and
a whole lot of what we call diversity applications and
chain migration where it's like, oh, my wife needs to
come here, And then you had people marrying under false pretenses.
Obviously there's all the rumors about elon Omar, but we
know that there was fraud perpetrated. And so you have
this expanding population, and then you have birthright citizenship and
(32:49):
anchor babies, and you have this massive growing population, and
it's a problem if you believe in our Western civilization values,
if you believe in Christ as our savior, if you
believe that our Judeo Christian principles and the founding principles
of this country and the declaration of the Constitution are
sacer sanct and central to our being and our communities.
(33:11):
I mean, look, you're going to be waking up to
a mosque on every block with all of their traditions
and all of the you know, prayer calls and all
of the stuff going on, and then inserting into the schools.
You see what's happening in DFW airport or essentially a
religious like you know, non denominational prayer room, which historically
would have been Episcopalians and Baptists being able to pray
(33:34):
in the same realm. Now you've got freaking prayer mats
and it's being taken over by Muslim adherents and Islamic
adherence and you've now got a total change in our culture,
and I think that's going to be destructive to who
we are as a people, and we need to reconcile that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It's your point.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
DHS did a sweep in Minneapolis Saint Paul are and
found that fifty percent of immigrants had committed some sort
of immigration fraud.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Right, so pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, they visited one thousand homes across Minneapolis and Saint
Paul and found nearly fifty percent of inhabitants were engaged
in some sort of immigration fraud.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
The press conference for them was a guy named Joe
edlow Is, the head of USCIS, was a good friend
of mine, worked together, he was a staffer on the House.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You just share a committee.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Great guy and they you know, we've talked about this
back before he was confirmed, and they've gone through, done
the research, done the review, and they're putting that out there.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We got to act, right, what are we going to do.
You find that fraud, and you prove up the fraud,
then we need to remove these people, right, because fraud
is fraud and you shouldn't be the beneficiary of your
fraudulen act absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I want to end on the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's allowed us to have some time to re have
you on the podcast today, but you know, maybe not
the best for the country. How do you think this
will end? You know, what are the off rams and
who do you think has more leverage right now in
this shutdown fight.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Republicans will hold the line and Republicans will stand behind
the president. I believe we have the leverage. And here's
why I think new Gigbridge said it very well actually
when he said, look, Democrats have picked a fight on
two things the American people don't like. The American people
generally don't like a shutdown fair enough, right, We've got
a deal trup pay that gets that expires and it's
(35:30):
you know, it's destabilizing. And the American people also don't
like proplgate increased government spending. So Democrats have picked a
shutdown fight to spend more money. Both to give money
to illegal aliens for health care. But importantly, and I'm
saying this more than some of my colleagues are, because
they're afraid to talk about healthcare and I'm not, they're
(35:50):
doing it to expand the COVID era subsidies under Obamacare.
They're taking that massive expansion. They want to extend it,
and all that money goes into the pockets of insurance companies.
So basically, they want to have rich insurance companies and
fund illegal aliens health care, and they're shutting down the
government to accomplish those objectives. I don't see that as
(36:11):
having the upper hand so long as Republicans hold a lot.
What I worry is that Republicans will claim victory on
stopping illegal aliens from getting health care, which, by the way,
we got a lot of those victories in the big
beautiful Bill working together with the President and is a
great team to do it. But I worry that some
of our more moderate members will say, well, we'll stop
that or which, by the way, was never going to happen.
(36:34):
We were never gonna give into the democrats demands to
give health care to i llegal aliens, but instead that
they'll then try to cut a deal and say, well,
but these subsidies are important, so let's have more subsidies.
No Republicans ever voted for one of these subsidies, and
we shouldn't. Now they're driving up the cost of health care,
empowering insurance companies, empowering mega hospital corporations at the expense
(36:55):
of doctors and patients. And that is why you can't
afford healthcare. That's why the average family forcements twenty five
thousand dollars a year on insurance to get a massive
deductible and a massive copay, to have to call some
person in either to Peak or India to beg to
find out which doctor they can actually use in a network,
and have to drive an hour to go see this
doctor that they didn't have a choice in choosing. That's
(37:16):
what Obamacare has given us. We have the upper hand.
We should hold the line. No more subsidies, no more
illegals getting paid. Democrats shut down the government. It's their choice.
Let them explain to soldiers when their paycheck doesn't come
in on October fifteenth that they're not getting paid because
they want illegals to have health care or they want
insurance companies to get rich. I don't think they can
win that if we hold the line.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
I agree, So hopefully you know your colleagues will listen
to that and we'll hold the line. Congressmanship, Roy, appreciate
you for taking the time. Thanks for you know, obviously
a lot going on. As we started the show, with
saying so appreciate you taking the time to give us
your insight into all these different issues facing the country
in the world right now.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Well, thanks for all you do. Thanks for your show.
It's so important for you to get the message out, Lisa.
You do a great job and happy to come on anytime.
Goble us.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And then before we go, obviously you're running for Attorney
General in Texas. Where can people find information for that?
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Shiproy dot com or on Twitter slash x I still
call it both Chip Roy t X, c h I
p R O I t X. Appreciate it and you know,
momma Congress another fourteen fifteen months fighting and to look
forward to serving the people of Texas statewide as the
attorney general.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Thanks Lisa.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
That was Congressman ship Roy running for Attorney General in
the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Appreciate him for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Appreciate you guys for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, but
you can listen throughout the week. I also want to
thank John Cassie and my producer for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
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