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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It has only been one week and President Trump has
already gotten so much done. We are reminded of what
it's like to actually have a leader again, to have
a commander in chief in office, of what it's like
twin to put America first, to be a proper country.
And President Trump has flooded the zone. He's flooded the
zone with executive order after executive order, everything from securing
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the southern border and to also just making sure that
only the American flag is flown at outposts around the
world the way it should be. The message is clear
to the rest of the world that America is back
and that Donald Trump, our president, is going to put
Americans first. So who better to have this conversation with
than a former Navy seal, a newly elected senator, someone
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to really watch.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
In the Senate. He's going to be a rising star.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
He's also a business owner, and he took out long
term Democrat incumbent John Tester in the state of Montana.
So we're going to talk to him about this flurry
of activity we've seen. It almost feels like we're living
through dog years. That's how much she's gone done in
one week. I mean it feels like we've already had
four years of the Trump administration in one week alone,
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which is a great sign of what we're going to
see for the next four years. But we're going to
talk to Senator Tim Sheehey about all of this. We
also we did this interview on Friday, so we also
talked a little bit about Pete Haigseth, the newly confirmed
Secretary of Defense. At the time, he hadn't been confirmed yet.
That's always the challenge of doing a podcast twice a week.
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We tried to stay on top of the news, but
sometimes the news it was a little too fast for
a twice week podcast. But trust me, this conversation is worthwhile.
Senator Tim Sheehey is someone to look out for. He's
a rising star and he offers such amazing insight about
a variety of issues. So stay tuned for Senator Tim Shehey. Well,
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Senator well, now I can say, Senator Sheehe, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Great to have you on this show.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Stir. Congratulations I'm being sworn in, And congratulations on victory.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, it was a big win, and obviously we came
off November fifth with a pretty decisive mandate across the
Board House, Senate, and the White House popular vote, electoral vote.
It's pretty excited. We're getting a lot of stuff done already.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Do you think that your fellow Republicans in the Senate
recognize the mandate that you guys have just been given.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
They absolutely do.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I mean, Leader Thune, as you've seen the last few days,
has made clear that we're going to be here nights, weekends,
holidays to get the cabinet in place. Aaron, we are
moving as fast as we possibly can. Obviously, the Senate,
as you know, by design, is slow as glacial, and
for those of us like me who are coming from
business and the military, it's kind of frustrating. But at
the same time, I think we can see from John
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Thune and his team they are barrel on full speed
ahead to get the cabinet in place as fast as
possible so we can get to work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Absolutely, I mean, but this has been particularly so slow
in confirming Trump nominees.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Why has it been so slow?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Bottom line? I mean Democrat resistance.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I mean there, as we saw when Trump won in
twenty seventeen, the Democrats kicked off their resistance movement. She'd say,
when he won in twenty sixteen, took office in twenty seventeen,
the resistance movement was in full swing. Now, the interesting
part of what we're seeing this time, Lise, is you know,
we're not seeing protests in the streets in DC now,
And as you remember in January seventeen, it was it
was a you know, cars burning, you know, the Women's March,
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it was chaos. So that the everyday people of America
do not want a resistance movement. They want common sense policies.
That's what they voted for, That's what they're expecting. The
vast like eighty seven percent of the American people want
the border secure and they want us to be deporting
criminal legals. So what we're seeing this time is not
a popular coast to coast American resistance like we saw
last time, fueled by the media. We're seeing this like
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little corners of resistance coming from the Chuck Schumers of
the world who are obsessed with thwarting the agenda. And
this time it's not because they disagree with the agenda,
is because they're afraid of the agenda being successful and
ushering in a generation of dominance for conservative, common sense policies.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Has anything surprised you about your time in the Senate
so far.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I'm not sure if it's surprised as it is, just
further you know, realization that boy were inefficient.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
You know, not much gets done here and now much
gets done.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
You know, we will sit around for days and days
and you know, as you said, we won't get cabinet
nominees approved.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And you know it's a lot of backroom dealings.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So I knew that coming in, and I think seeing
it in person is frustrating, but it also hastens the
need for people like me, you know, young first time
officeholders who are going to come in and shake up
the system, who don't have you know, baked in loyalties
to constituencies and long time political allies. We're here to
serve our country and do the best we can to
bring common sense back.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do you think everyone will get confirmed all of Trump's nominees.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Man, I hope, So I think we are. It looks good.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I know that, as everyone knows, there's a handful that
are definitely creating resistance. Pete egg Seth and Tulsi are
and Cash are top of the list. I happen to
know all of them personally, and I'm supporting all them,
but I think I think we're going to get them
all through. It's it's going to be tough, though.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, we've already seen President Trump hit the ground running.
It is obvious that he means business and he's got
a big agenda he wants to work through. You know,
we've seen already seen raids on illegal immigrants, criminals that
need to get out of the country. We've seen President
Trump revoked the security clearances of those fifty one former
Intel officers who lie to us and said Hunter Biden's
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laptop was Russian disinformation, despite them knowing it was not.
You know, we've seen that only the United States flag
can be flown at out US.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Outposts around the world.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So just a lot of like symbolic measures, a lot
of important measures. What stood out to you so far
and seeing some of these executive orders and these initial
initial actions from President Trump, Well.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
The first thing was just the decisiveness with which you know,
he hit the ground running day one, I think in
twenty seventeen, again comparing to his last term, I think.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
There was we were surprised about the.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Win, and to a certain extent, there was a little
bit of well, you know, the dog caught the bumper,
I think in this in this case, it was a
far more organized rollout, and that's why we had executive
orders across the board rolling out day one. So I
think it was very it was very refreshing to see
that happen. And of course the speed at which the
Senate has snapped into place from the Republican side to
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get the nominees through.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I mean, in the.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
First you know, week and a half, we had twelve
nominees out of committee.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So I think the unity has been the most.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Surprising part for me, because you know, that hasn't always
been there. Republicans are known for forming circular firing squads
and firing at each other. But I think we've seen
a lot of coordination between the House of Scent and
the White House to make sure that we're on the
same page.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
We'll see along that lasts, and we'll see how effective
it is.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
But but thus far, you know, three weeks into all
this of the new Congress and obvious these a couple
of days into the presidency, we seem to be very
aligned and purpose and worldview and execution.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
The details, of course, will.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Always cause some trip ups here, but from what I'm
hearing is the disagreements are not around objective and mission
and execution. They're around some of the details of how
we can actually effectively get this done. And I think
that's very exciting because instead of having arguments about worldview
and what the actual end state is, there more arguments
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about the parliamentary tactics of what's the best way to
get the mission done, not what the mission actually is.
And that's important.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
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Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, you're a.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Mission focused guy. I mean you're Navy seal.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
We've seen our military just completely loose light of the
side of the pop plot, you know, focusing on like
drag queen story hours and diversity of inclusion as opposed
to lethality and recruitment.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
What do you think a.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense would mean for kind
of refocusing the military on our key priorities.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I think it would mean that military would be focused
on our key priorities, and the key priorities are fight
in win wars.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That is the job of the military.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
The job of recruiters in the military is not to recruit,
you know, every potential social bucket that creates diversities, to
recruit the people who are best able to close with
and kill the enemy and protect their nation, protect their families,
and fight for America's interests. And you know, if you
heard any of my questioning of Pete during his his hearing,
you know that's.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
What it was focused on. It was focused on.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Ensuring that we get someone at the top of the
Department of Defence who is focused on military readiness, combat readiness,
and he builds a team around him that is also
supported with the same mindset. And now that can come
in many ways. That obviously recruiting is key, we need
to have the best and brightest in the military. We
also have to have the ability to equip them with
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an industrial supply base that can make things again, that
can make bullets and bombs and planes and ships and summarines.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
And we do not have that right now. And we've
learned that the hard way.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Many of us have been saying it for years, but
now I think the everyday American understands too that our
defense industrial base is sorely lacking. And that's a key
part of our mission because if we have to send
hundreds of thousands of young men and women overseas again,
sending them over there without bullets, guns, bombs and planes
doesn't do much good.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So that's a key part of our readiness.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
And you know, the rediness doesn't include you know, you know,
green solar power generation projects to make sure our tanks
don't run on diesel. It doesn't include you know, DEI initiatives.
It doesn't include drag, green story hour. Leadership matters, and
priorities matter, and the priority needs to be combat readiness.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I did like your pronoun joke during your questioning of
Pete hug Seth.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That didn't make me laugh.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, it's about time I get something out of this name.
I've been stuck with it. Middle school wasn't very fun
being called Chihi. So now I'm finally getting a use
out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That did make me.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I did laugh out loud during that, So I appreciate
that little levity is always appreciated.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And we've sort of seen this rep prioritization of what's
important in all things.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You've got Christy Gnomes saying that, you know, the priority
for the United States is the secure borders, which is
crazy that we've not done that over the past four years.
And we've talked about Pete seg heg Seth talking about
getting back to.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Lethality and recruitment.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
You've got Scott Bessant talking about scent, talking about we're
not in a climate race with China, We're in an
energy race with China. You know, I guess what are
you look most looking forward to over these next four years.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Common sense I keep saying it, but honestly, common sense
a campaign do it. You know, Americans want a secure borders,
safe streets, cheap gas, cops of good criminals are bad
boys of boys, girls and girls. And it's not too
much for the American people to ask and for them
to expect that a government that they've elected, in the
government that they pay for every day with their tax dollars,
is doing things that are good for them, and doing
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things that are good for the future of America and
putting American businesses first, putting the American border first, putting
the American worker first, and as we've seen from the
Obama years and put on afterburners during the Biden years.
You know, so much of our national policy, domestic and
foreign policy, economic policy has been structured around like these
goofy like institutionalist, globalist, academic you know thesises where it's like, well,
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we're going to you know, we're going to tell kids
in an elementary school that they can change genders but
not tell their parents, and somehow that's a good thing.
And you know, we're going to you know, shut down
our economy. So everyone can say six feet apart and
wear masks. You know, we're going to make sure that
we invest in you know, equality in you know, Uganda,
but we're not going to make sure that, you know,
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people in America have enough food on their table. You know,
we're going to send billions of dollars of aid to
you know, Gaza to ensure that people who are killing
American citizens and holding them hostage, you know, have enough
food eat. And meanwhile, in America, we have people who
don't have homes, they've been burned by wildfire or you know,
wh wiped away by a mud slide, who to this
day don't have food eat, and sometimes the roof over
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the head and they're saying, wow, where where's all the
focus on me? Where's my aid? Is a tax paying
American citizen, how come our government seems to be so
focused on the well being of everybody else in this
world but not myself? So and you know, that's really
the crux of the America First agenda. You know, it's
been billed by you know, The Atlantic, of the New
York Times and CNN as this you know, isolationist, nationalist,
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you know, machismo thing, and it's not what America First
means is we're going to put the needs of our
communities first, our people first. And that's not controversial, that's
not crazy, that's not right wing, that is common sense.
So that's what I'm excited about. I think that's what
America voted for. As we see even in southern California
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right now, you see liberal actors on their phone saying,
how in the world did we let this happen? How
have we elected these officials who many of them voted
for and donated to, you know, put the needs of
the spotted owl and you know, the Eurasian snail fish,
and you know the lettuce, you know the lettuce plant.
How how the needs of those obscure species been placed
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above the needs of our communities not to burn to
the ground. So that's what I'm most excited about, and
I think that's what our messages united around, and that's
what American people want.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
When I know you've been critical the forest mismanagement in California,
and to your point, you know, part of what they
do is it's like, oh, look over here at climate
change instead of the fact that we're just completely mismanaging
or forests or you know that we're mismanaging or water
or that. You know, they try to use sort of
like these shiny objects to direct people away from the
fact that they don't actually know how to govern and
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they aren't doing their jobs exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I mean, because it's easy to talk about these lofty
you know, global initiatives, you know human rights, equality, you know, equity,
I should say, because equality is not racist or something.
It's about equity. You know, climate change. And that's because
how do you create accountability or report card from someone
saying those things. You can't And therefore, you know, when
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they have record high homelessness, when they have record i
have violent crime in the streets, when the cities are
burning too the ground. Because yes, but we helped increase equity.
You know in Ghana, that's where Karen Bass was when
her city was burning to the ground. You know, we
helped reduce our carbon emissions. Oh but guess what. The
wildfires that have burned through California have wiped out a
decade of carbon emissions. So you know, all the electric
scooters you're driving around apparently have had no impact because
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the forests you failed to manage, and the fire hydrants
you failed to fill and the aircraft you fail to
have on standby, all those things that are our actual
hard tack management, key performance indicators that you failed at
all of them now created one of the largest carbon
emitting events in the history of mankind. And now all
your carbon emissions that you saved through these idiotic policies
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are now pointless. So again, people, you can't lie to
people forever, sooner or later, with their own eyes, they
see the truth, and that is these policies are failing,
and they're failing in a very real way.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And you know, the kitchen table issues.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
People may be supportive of globalist and issues until you
know they can't put food on their kitchen table, until
you know they look at their receipts on the kitchen
table realize they can't afford to fill up their gas
tank anymore. So, kitchen table issues, as we know, these
last three and a half years, have been at the
forefront of everyone's mind, from crime in the streets out front.
You know the average you know American Mom was three
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years ago where they were focused on abortion. You know
that this is a key women's right, that is our
number one issue. Well that started to fade pretty quick
when crime violent crime spiked all over the nation, and
young women said, you know what, that is an important
issue to me. Then I do have concerns, but you
know what, I'm actually more concerned about being stabbed in
the street well as they walk to work. I'm more
concerned about my kids being attacked in the street. So
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safety is key, and the highest duty of any government
is to protect its people. And as we saw in
la these last few weeks, unfortunately and tragically, we were
unable to protect our people.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, you know, it's also to protect your people on
the world stage as well. And we basically haven't had
a president, We've had no leadership over the past four years,
and we've already seen just in these initial actions that
America's first. You know, he's going to put America first
with things like pulling out of the Paris Climate Treaty
or pulling out of the World Health Organization. I think
the message is pretty clear to the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
We've got more with Senator Sheihe.
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eight four a eight four three two five. Do you
think you'll be able to get a handle on some
of the chaos we've seen throughout the world, particularly in
Europe in the Middle East as well. Did you think
the message has been received by our enemies that you know, there's.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
A new shop from down of course, I mean before
he even took office, we saw you know, Hamas asking
for you know, a ceasefire agreement. You know, before he
even took office, we're already seeing China adjust its rhetoric
around around invading Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
We saw Iran immediately back off.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's very muscular and aggressive support for its proxy groups
that have been wreaking havoc in the region. So even
before taking office, the message that America First policies are
back has already put our adversaries, you know, on their
on their on their on their heels. And of course
it's just preposterous to hear sit around and here, you know,
our academic elites and our Democrat colleagues talk about, you
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know what a foreign policy disaster.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think I saw. I don't never read The Atlantic
because I don't want to get dumber as I read,
But sometimes I do occasions for the best.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Sometimes I do occasionally proves their headlines, just because it's
fun to see what they say to themselves every day
to make themselves feel better.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And one of us, you know, the headline in the.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Glazos said something get ready for a foreign policy calamity,
And of course the point of the piece was Donald
Trump's going to usher into foreign policy chaos era. It's like,
what the hell do you call the last four years?
You know, I mean our longest war, which is what
got me into politics. I never wanted to do this job,
never run friending before in my life. Not he was
student council. But like watching Afghanistan War, I fought and
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my wife fought into a marine, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Lost friends there. Uh, seeing that war just walked away.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
From and the disastrous collapse of that which started the
domino effect of Iran realizing that they were going to
be unimpeded anywhere they went. So of course they kicked
off from the who the rebels, to Hamas to Hesbla,
regional conflicts all over. Of course, Putin said, well, it's
a free reign now, and of course obamall let him
cross red line after redline, so he went ahead and
kicked off with Ukraine. China knew they could start fluxing
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their muscle in earth, Korea could cent troops wherever they wanted.
So I don't know what you call the last three
and a half years other than a foreign policy disaster.
And of course what Trump's bringing back in is the
policy that you know, when America makes decisions when it
comes to foreign policy, We're going to do something extremely controversial.
We're going to put our interests first. My god, you
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know who thought of that. I mean, that's what every
other country in the history of the world has been
doing for thousands of years, is you go to negotiating
table and you decide what's best for my country, and
I'm going to do whatever it takes to get that.
That's how it's always worked, that's how business works. And
for some reason, you know, the Obama Biden you know,
even go back to Carter.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You know, this whole mindset of you know, what our
duty is actually to the rest of the world.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
We're just going to give things away like the Panama
Canal because it makes.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Us feel good about ourselves.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
All these academics, you know, will gently give us a
golf clap after we do it and write great articles
about us. Well, guess what, you know, the impacts of
those policies aren't felt, you know in the wood paneled
halls of Yale and Harvard. You know, they're felt in
the halls of you know, manufacturing plants in America that
shut down. You know, they're felt, you know, in the
in the cab of a tractor that's trying to keep
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a farm going because you know, prices are out of control.
They're felt by the families at Dover Air Force Base
who see their young sons and daughters get brought home
in boxes because of idiotic decisions made by idiotic people.
So we're done, We're past that. We're going to bring
common sense back. We're going to put our country first.
And and you know, oddly enough, Lisa, here's the crazy thing.
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When America puts its own own interest first, the rest
of the world benefits because the rest of the world
benefits from a strong America economically, security wise, the whole
world actually likes when we are strong and assertive because
that keeps the rest of the world and the bad
actors in check. So in this effort to like, you know,
make everyone in the world happy and give them, you know,
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give away things all the time, we actually have sown
chaos all over the world. By having a clear, consistent,
and prioritized approach to global affairs that puts our interests,
our economy, and our people first.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
The rest of the world is better off.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Aymen, Well we're going to leave it there, well said senator.
Appreciate you, appreciate your time, Glad you're in the Senate,
and congratulations. I'm sure being sworn in has got to
be a pretty cool experience, so we appreciate you and congratulations.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Right. Well, great to talk to you again. I'm sure
we'll be on again soon. Take care.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
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Speaker 1 (22:39):
You can listen Monday through Thursday, but of course you
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Cassio and my producer for putting the show together. Until
next time,