April 18, 2024 • 26 mins
Kirk Cameron discusses the dark side of children's TV and the need for wholesome programming. He reflects on the documentary 'Quiet On Set' that exposes toxic behavior and abuse behind the scenes of Nickelodeon shows. Kirk emphasizes the importance of protecting children and creating TV shows that reflect goodness, truth, and beauty. He discusses the influence of children's shows on kids and the need for parents to be vigilant in protecting their children from harmful ideologies. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Monday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's a documentary out called Quiet on Set, The Dark
Side of Kids TV. It exposes a lot of abuse
and toxic behavior that happened on hit Nickelodeon shows, including
one individual named Brian Peck, who was a Nickelodeon voice coach.
He was sentenced to sixteen months of prison time and
forced to register as a sex offender for sexually abusing
(00:22):
a young star. We're going to talk to someone who's
familiar with Hollywood. He started acting at nine years old.
You're familiar with him. We've had him on the show before.
Kirk Cameron, of course, you know him from Growing Pains.
He's an author and he's also putting together a new
television series for children, which we'll get into as well.
But he worked with some of these people like Brian Peck,
(00:42):
So we're going to get his insight about what happens
behind the scenes in Hollywood and just the dark side
of Hollywood, but also what he's doing about it because
he is solution oriented.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
He's written children's books.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
He did a cross country tour for months speaking to
families and children, trying to share his message of faith,
family and country. Now he's out with this new children's
TV series. It's about Solange called Adventures with Iggy and
Mister Kirk, where he's going to bring family values, talk
about faith, talk about love for the country, and said
(01:14):
hatred for the country, which is really important when we
see some of these kids series talking about pronouns and
all this crazy stuff exposing kids to. So we're going
to get into all of this with Kirk Cameron and
talk about his new children's TV series.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Stay tuned. Well, Kirk, it's great to have you back
on the show. We appreciate you making time.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh my pleasure. Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So before we get into the positive thing that you're
doing with this new children's TV series, I want.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
To talk about the negative exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You knew where it was going with us.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean it's important because it kind of leads us
to why you would probably want to do, you know,
a TV series. So you know, we'll start with this
new documentary call it I guess it's not as new now,
but quite on set The Dark Side.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Of Kids TV.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It goes through a lot of allegations of just you know,
toxic behavior, abuse behind the scenes at unhit Nickelodeon shows.
What did what did you make of the documentary. I'm
sure that you know obviously as someone who started in
this business at nine, you know, what did you make
of the documentary?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, I think we all feel the same way. We're
just horrified at the idea that pedophilia even exists, that
there's child molusters and sex offenders that are living in
our neighborhoods. And for me, I personally knew some of
these people who are featured in that documentary because they
(02:50):
worked on Growing Pains, So this was happening before the
nineteen nineties when Drake Bell and others were on these programs.
Leonardo DiCaprio was one of my co stars on Growing Pains,
my little brother Ben Jeremy Miller, and dialogue coaches and
producers are are people who have spent time in prisons,
including federal prisons, for distributing kitty porn and then actually
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molesting children. So it's disgusting, it's twisted, it's it's perverted,
but so goes, so goes the human heart and the
human mind, and the entertainment industry and the and the
political industry and every other It seems powerful lever of
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shaping culture. We hear about Epstein's Island and all the
human trafficking that's going on, particularly with children and being
sold for sex services. It's it's it's horrifying that even
in California, that's not even a felony to buy a
child for sex, it's a misdemeanor. How does all this happen?
I think it's when we get rid of God and
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we become a moral standard to ourselves and we say, hey,
live and let live. You do you, and I'm going
to do me, and then all sorts of evil comes
out of Pandora's box. And what I want to do
is simply appeal to a standard of goodness and truth
and beauty that at least the majority of people would
(04:16):
agree is what we ought to be basing our society on.
And we should make TV shows that reflect that, not
this filth that we're seeing in this documentary, you.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Know, And you're talking about people like Brian Peck who
was sentenced to sixteen months in prison time forced to
register as a sex offender for sexually abusing a Drake Bell,
a Nickelodeon star, you know, and Stephen Marshall who was
later arrested. He was arrested for possession and distribution of
child pornography. I mean, you worked around these guys, did
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you pick up on you know, as a kid, did
you kind of pick up on there's something wrong here?
You know, I can't trust these guys.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I even recently met with a couple of key staff
members from Growing Pains just to ask them, guys, what
do you remember about this? Because I remember my experience,
and the consensus was, yeah, you knew something was smarmy
and off, you knew, but you didn't really want to
accuse without really no, because it's such foul stuff. How
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do you accuse somebody of that unless you had some
sort of obvious evidence, and at that time we didn't.
Because often these predators are people who are charming. They
ingratiate themselves into your life. They even become trusted friends.
And anyone who has been in abusive relationships knows that
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these are often the kinds of people that you least
expect would do them, and that's how they gain access
to the privacy and to the trusted positions in children's lives.
You know, sometimes it's an uncle, sometimes it's trusted friend,
sometimes it's a teacher, and in these cases it was
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a trusted coworker.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, and you talk about you know too, it's like
if these kids who are trying to make it in Hollywood,
trying to make their big break, that the parents who
are obviously you know, wenning that as well because they're
they're kids working in the industry. And so I mean
talk about being completely vulnerable and at the hands of
these people who are in charge. I mean, you know,
the power dynamics of a child, you know, whose career
(06:30):
sort of hinges on these people that you know, you're
exceptionally vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right, And that's I think that
speaks to the importance of the sacred job we have
as parents to protect our children. And certainly no parent
ever wants this to happen. Drake Bell's parents didn't want
this to happen to him. I'm sure nobody's parents want
this to happen. But we've got to be vigilant. And
(06:57):
you know, at my heart, at the end of it all,
it's it's it's it's infuriating to any parent to think
that someone would violate their child. And so I've got
compassion on these kids, not just the ones who are
all grown up now dealing with these scars and revealing
(07:19):
these dark secrets. But but also the kids who are
on television programs today that are perhaps dealing with the
exact same stuff that won't be outed for another decade,
and that's too late. It needs to be dealt with now.
And what I would like to be a part of
is creating the solution environments and programs that are good
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for kids to work on and for kids to watch.
So I'm not here to just go on a tirade
about evil people because you know, but but but for
the grace of God, uh that there would be more
of them and more children would be victims. I think
that what we need to do is we need to
(08:07):
just raise the standard and help people rise to the
occasion of protecting children rather than abusing them.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Do you think what this documentary exposed is a broader
reflection on society.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
It's interesting. I like reading history to get a better
perspective in context for the stuff that we're dealing with.
So yeah, I think it is everything that we're seeing.
We're seeing, you know, child mutilation being talked about in
terms of gender affirming care. We're seeing all kinds of
(08:47):
right being called wrong and wrong being called right. Black
is white, white as black, and good is evil and
evil is good. We're seeing the fundamentals of reality and
society turned upside down. Men men only get pregnant now,
So when we see pedophilia and sexual sexual fetishes that
(09:08):
are seeming to become more prolific, we are shocked by them. However,
were only shocked by them because we used to have
a standard that would be outraged and forbid these things
to where these things just would never happen. But you know,
I think we're actually not progressing in our values as
(09:30):
the progressives would would like us to believe. I think
we're actually regressing back to a time before biblical values
were the norm. So you go back to ancient Rome,
or ancient Babylon or ancient Egypt, and to these societies
that were so pagan, so barbaric, that sacrificing children was normal,
(09:54):
that sexual fetishes were as bizarre and strange as you
could possibly imagine, and that was just the activities of
the day. The fact that we're outraged by this kind
of behavior in the documentary, I think is a good sign.
It means we've got a moral conscience that's actually worth something.
And now what we need to do is root out
(10:14):
the evil, and we need to have a standard that
is just as high as it used to be and
even higher to protect the hearts and minds of kids.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
When you said that, you know, I started thinking, you know,
how would society react even ten years ago to the
normalization of a child mutilating their body or taking puberty
blockers that have been given to sex offenders in the past.
You know, how would that society, like ten to fifteen
years ago react to what we're normalizing today?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, we I think we all know the question.
I had to say, Well, how would I have reacted
ten years ago? How you would have reacted most of
the stuff that we're seeing today ten years, ten years ago, fifteen,
twenty years ago, a few would have said, Hey, there's
coming a day where it's going to be not only
proposed that biological males are real females and that males
(11:11):
can get pregnant, but not only that that parents can
find out one day that their child has changed their
gender and had their genitals chopped off and given puberty
blockers and they never knew about it, and the ones
that tried to stop them. Child protection services came and
took the kids away from them and called them bad parents.
You'd say, you're smoking something so crazy that that could
(11:35):
never happen, and yet here we are today. I mean,
this isn't a you know, psychedelic mushroom trip that we're on.
This is what's actually happening again. It's it's a huge
wake up call to us. And now the answer is, well,
are we just going to you know, stay in bed
and keep our eyes closed and just let it continue
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to regress or do we change the game? I personally
am not content hanging out with the whiners about all
the badness. I want to hang out with the winners
who want to create goodness. I don't want to complain
about the culture. I want to create the culture. I
think that's what the good guys are here for.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
We've got more of the truth with Lisa Booth.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
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your your new project, how much of an impact do
you think you know, the these children's shows have on
you know kids, I mean we're saying, you know, pronouns
be introduced to kids in some of this programming. We've seen,
you know, sexually explicit books, you know in libraries. You
know how much how much influence does all of that
have on a kid?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Every parent knows every parent who's who has a kid,
and whose kid has a phone or has a tablet
or goes to school. Uh, you know, except maybe for
some really small groups of homeschooled kids are amish kids,
you know, who don't interact with the larger culture. It's
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hugely influential. I mean, the percentage of children who have
suicidal thoughts is up massively. Anxiety and depression, gender dysphoria,
boys wanting to be girls, girls wanting to be all
of that coincides with the massive increase of those ideas
being propagated through kids shows, teenage shows, books, media, music,
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all of that stuff. And that's why I've been so
so passionate about leaning into education and entertainment for young people,
because kids are growing up with no concept of even
who they are. I mean, for God's sake, they don't
know if they're a boy or a girl. Can't they can't,
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you know, look down and figure it out. They've gotta
look inside and say, well, what do I want to be?
And well maybe what have And then God forbid, they
feel like they made a mistake and they want to
turn back. And then the very team that told them
they get to choose turns against them because they don't
want them to choose to go back to what they
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used to be because somehow that's being a trader and
they're completely lost. Who do they trust? What is what
is true? And we as parents have to recognize this
is all happening on our watch. So it's our responsibility,
you know, until they literally come and rip your children
out of your hands. There's no excuse for sending them
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to places and putting devices in their hands that transport
them to ideological health, because that's just going to rock
their souls. And there's no one else responsible but us
as parents, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But we're seeing some parents go along with it as well.
You know a lot of celebrity parents as well. You know,
my kids they now or you know, in purging, transitioning,
and you know what I mean. So it's like it's
parents too, And I guess like why, you know, you know,
you would think as a parent you would know, But
is it to be accepted? Is it because it's being
(16:13):
it's the cool thing like.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Why, yeah, well, you know, you and I can we
can speculate. I mean, I think that you and I
are probably, you know, on on somewhat the same page
about these things seeming outrageous and ridiculous. I can't think
of a reason why. But I also hear parents who
are saying things like, well, you know, I don't want
(16:36):
to be closed minded, and I don't want to discriminate
against ideas that are that are different than my own,
and I want to let my kids decide, when in reality,
they're really not letting their kids decide. Their kids are
being massively influenced by by outside forces that the parents
are not diligently protecting them from. You know, you've got
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to know who you are and what your values are.
And if you don't know, and you don't teach those
things to your kids, other people will snatch your kids
right out from under you. If not physically kidnapping them,
they'll mentally hijack them through schools and through the screens.
And again that's I'm kind of done about whining and
complaining about all of this. I think I think we know,
(17:19):
if we've got a conscience, we've got lots of you know,
enemy identifiers on the radar screen, and we know we
need to do something about it. And so I'm partnering
with brave people who want to make the kinds of
things that are going to support parents who get it. Unfortunately,
some of them just don't see people who there's some
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people who are never going to see. They're never going
to get it. But there are those who do see
and those who want to see. And these kinds of
whistle blowing interviews are great. And then it's like, all right,
you know, suit up and let's go to war to
fight for what is beautiful and true and good because
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we don't have many years to influence our children and
every second counts well.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And you've been part of the you know, wanting to
create solutions right with the books that you've written and
going on through libraries and reading those books to kids.
And then now you have a new children's TV series
called The Adventure Adventures with Iggy and mister Kirk. I,
you know, tell us about sort of how this came about.
(18:28):
And for parents who are like, you know what, I
really would love some programming that I don't have to
worry about, you know, pronouns being injected and all these
different things.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
How did this come about? And tell us a little
bit about it?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sure? Well, about a year ago I wrote a children's
book called As You Grow, and it's all about teaching
kids to grow the fruit of the Spirit. That's a
phrase that you'll find in the Book of Galatians in
the Bible, and that fruit is love, joy, peace, patience,
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find goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self control. These are the
things you think every parent would want for their kids.
So I said, hey, let's go to a public library
and do a story hour, reading like other groups are doing. Well.
I was denied by over fifty woke libraries that previously
held drag Queen's story hours for children. So you can
(19:19):
be a man in fishnet stockings, heels, a wig and
lipstick and read some really confusing stuff to kids. But
if you want to go in and talk about faith,
hope and love, it was a hard no.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I ended up telling some friends of the news was
threatening to assert my constitutional rights for violation of the
First Amendment, and these libraries changed course. I went and
over three thousand parents and grandparents showed up at these events,
LA DC, New York City, Phoenix, Arizona all across the
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country because millions of parents want good, wholesome values. So
now I'm making a new TV show for kids called
Adventures with Iggy and Mister Kirk, and it is our
generation's version of Mister Rogers Neighborhood. It has beautiful animation,
great wholesome, timeless values and lessons. We have legendary puppeteers
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from Jim Henson, Sesame Street, the Muppets, as well as
great hilarious humor and actors and actresses that are all
jumping on board to be a part of this. And
we hope this is going to be around for decades
and be a staple for children to build their character
and for parents to trust.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Quick commercial break more with Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I imagine that this has been a really fun project for
you to you know, kind of take obviously your acting
background and then you know, wanting to be part of
the solution to a lot of the things we've discussed
throughout the show so far. How fun has this been
for you?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
So much fun? If you want to check out little
snippets of the show and what we're doing, you can
even watch it to see how fun it is. If
you go to watch Brave dot com. Watch Brave and
Brave is the company that is helping to produce the show,
Brave Books and you know, working with a little iguana
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puppet named Iggy is hilarious. We've got a vulture named Culture,
and we've got a set full of legendary people, storytellers,
set builders, actors, actresses, puppeteers, and we are having a blast.
We're filming the first twenty episodes this summer and it's
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going to be coming out for free for people on YouTube,
and then it will eventually find a home somewhere, but
for right now, we want everybody to see it. We
want it to be free, and we're not taking any
money from Hollywood because we don't want the woke strings
attached to that money. And we're funding it ourselves with
the help of Brave Americans who want to tribute. And
if you're listening now and you want to help us,
(22:03):
go to watch Brave dot com.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Is this Brave's first venture into doing the tea? I
know that very familiar with the books that they've done,
including yours. You know, we've had you on to talk
about it before. Is this their first venture into you know,
doing producing, you know, working on a television.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, so I think so. And it's really my first
venture as well, into producing a children's television show. And
it feels like a good fit. You know, it's like
an old pair of sneakers. I remember being on Growing Pains,
and even before Growing Pains was in other family television shows,
even on my sister's Full House, So I remember what
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it's like. And now being a parent, and now even
a grandparent. My daughter has our first granddaughter on the way.
I congratulations, thank you. More passionate than ever to do
what I can to get on the offense and and
get off the couch, get off the defense and be
on the winning side, advancing to good.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What do you hope kids take away from it?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh, kids are going to take away everything from learning
to be honest, to be brave, to be humble and kind.
They're also going to learn that the one who loves
them best is God in Heaven who made them. They're
also going to learn great pro American values. They're going
to learn the dangers of socialism through an episode we
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have called The Island of Free ice Cream. And then
we've also got lessons in there about gender reality. Now
These aren't the kinds of lessons mister Rogers ever needed
to teach decades ago. But you know what, we need
to teach them to our children today. Why because the enemy,
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the opposition, is already indoctrinating your children and mine with
these ideas the wrong way, the wrong direction, and so
we've got to direct that now and talk to our
kids about what it means to be a boy or
a girl, what it means that life is sacred from
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the wound to the tomb. You don't mess with that,
And what it means to love a country that is
based on principles that will lead to your blessing and
your protection. All of this uh and more are the
takeaways from Adventures with a Gy and Mister Kirk For kids, well.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And it's nice for parents to know too, that you know,
they can turn something on and you know they don't
have to worry about uh, you know, some sort of
crazy uh messaging and you know, a top pronouns and
just all this other crazy stuff going on in the world.
That they can rest assured that the messages are going
to be Yeah, that they would teach their kids.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I think so that that's the goal, that's the that's
the intent.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
And at the same time, I'm the last person who
would say, hey, parents, you know, just suit your kids
down in front of a screen and don't worry about it. Listen,
always worry about it. Who cares what a celebrity says.
Who cares what a politician says, or even what a
doctor says. When it comes to the health of your
children mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, you are the gatekeeper. You
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are the guardian defend those children like a lion. You
make sure you know what's going into their eyes and
into their ears. And I want to be a friend
to you by helping you support the values that you
know are good for your kids. So you know, VET, me, VET,
the show, VET, everybody that has any contact with your children.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's a really great point. Well, this sounds like an
awesome project. Really excited for you. I know it'll be
a huge success. I appreciate you coming on the show
to talk about why it's needed and then to also
to talk about adventures with Iggy and mister kirk Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
We appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well, thank you and thank you for devoting your time
to making sure that this show goes on week after
week after week and talking about important things, and appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And one more time for people. Where can they find
it and where can they contribute and help?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Well, you can find it by going to watch Brave
dot com. Watch Brave dot com and you can help
us get these shows fully funded. In the shows produced,
all the contributions are tax inductible and for them you
get these really cool, unique rewards to be part of
the show.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's awesome, all right, Well, Kirk Cameron, we really appreciate
you making the.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Time, all right, take care.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
How a good day that was, Kirk Cameron. Appreciate him
taking the time to come on the show. Appreciate you
guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but
you can listen throughout the week. What do I think John Cassio,
my producer, for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Until next time,
There's a documentary out called Quiet on Set, The Dark
Side of Kids TV. It exposes a lot of abuse
and toxic behavior that happened on hit Nickelodeon shows, including
one individual named Brian Peck, who was a Nickelodeon voice coach.
He was sentenced to sixteen months of prison time and
forced to register as a sex offender for sexually abusing
(00:22):
a young star. We're going to talk to someone who's
familiar with Hollywood. He started acting at nine years old.
You're familiar with him. We've had him on the show before.
Kirk Cameron, of course, you know him from Growing Pains.
He's an author and he's also putting together a new
television series for children, which we'll get into as well.
But he worked with some of these people like Brian Peck,
(00:42):
So we're going to get his insight about what happens
behind the scenes in Hollywood and just the dark side
of Hollywood, but also what he's doing about it because
he is solution oriented.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
He's written children's books.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
He did a cross country tour for months speaking to
families and children, trying to share his message of faith,
family and country. Now he's out with this new children's
TV series. It's about Solange called Adventures with Iggy and
Mister Kirk, where he's going to bring family values, talk
about faith, talk about love for the country, and said
(01:14):
hatred for the country, which is really important when we
see some of these kids series talking about pronouns and
all this crazy stuff exposing kids to. So we're going
to get into all of this with Kirk Cameron and
talk about his new children's TV series.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Stay tuned. Well, Kirk, it's great to have you back
on the show. We appreciate you making time.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh my pleasure. Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So before we get into the positive thing that you're
doing with this new children's TV series, I want.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
To talk about the negative exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You knew where it was going with us.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean it's important because it kind of leads us
to why you would probably want to do, you know,
a TV series. So you know, we'll start with this
new documentary call it I guess it's not as new now,
but quite on set The Dark Side.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Of Kids TV.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It goes through a lot of allegations of just you know,
toxic behavior, abuse behind the scenes at unhit Nickelodeon shows.
What did what did you make of the documentary. I'm
sure that you know obviously as someone who started in
this business at nine, you know, what did you make
of the documentary?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, I think we all feel the same way. We're
just horrified at the idea that pedophilia even exists, that
there's child molusters and sex offenders that are living in
our neighborhoods. And for me, I personally knew some of
these people who are featured in that documentary because they
(02:50):
worked on Growing Pains, So this was happening before the
nineteen nineties when Drake Bell and others were on these programs.
Leonardo DiCaprio was one of my co stars on Growing Pains,
my little brother Ben Jeremy Miller, and dialogue coaches and
producers are are people who have spent time in prisons,
including federal prisons, for distributing kitty porn and then actually
(03:12):
molesting children. So it's disgusting, it's twisted, it's it's perverted,
but so goes, so goes the human heart and the
human mind, and the entertainment industry and the and the
political industry and every other It seems powerful lever of
(03:32):
shaping culture. We hear about Epstein's Island and all the
human trafficking that's going on, particularly with children and being
sold for sex services. It's it's it's horrifying that even
in California, that's not even a felony to buy a
child for sex, it's a misdemeanor. How does all this happen?
I think it's when we get rid of God and
(03:55):
we become a moral standard to ourselves and we say, hey,
live and let live. You do you, and I'm going
to do me, and then all sorts of evil comes
out of Pandora's box. And what I want to do
is simply appeal to a standard of goodness and truth
and beauty that at least the majority of people would
(04:16):
agree is what we ought to be basing our society on.
And we should make TV shows that reflect that, not
this filth that we're seeing in this documentary, you.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Know, And you're talking about people like Brian Peck who
was sentenced to sixteen months in prison time forced to
register as a sex offender for sexually abusing a Drake Bell,
a Nickelodeon star, you know, and Stephen Marshall who was
later arrested. He was arrested for possession and distribution of
child pornography. I mean, you worked around these guys, did
(04:51):
you pick up on you know, as a kid, did
you kind of pick up on there's something wrong here?
You know, I can't trust these guys.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I even recently met with a couple of key staff
members from Growing Pains just to ask them, guys, what
do you remember about this? Because I remember my experience,
and the consensus was, yeah, you knew something was smarmy
and off, you knew, but you didn't really want to
accuse without really no, because it's such foul stuff. How
(05:24):
do you accuse somebody of that unless you had some
sort of obvious evidence, and at that time we didn't.
Because often these predators are people who are charming. They
ingratiate themselves into your life. They even become trusted friends.
And anyone who has been in abusive relationships knows that
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these are often the kinds of people that you least
expect would do them, and that's how they gain access
to the privacy and to the trusted positions in children's lives.
You know, sometimes it's an uncle, sometimes it's trusted friend,
sometimes it's a teacher, and in these cases it was
(06:05):
a trusted coworker.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, and you talk about you know too, it's like
if these kids who are trying to make it in Hollywood,
trying to make their big break, that the parents who
are obviously you know, wenning that as well because they're
they're kids working in the industry. And so I mean
talk about being completely vulnerable and at the hands of
these people who are in charge. I mean, you know,
the power dynamics of a child, you know, whose career
(06:30):
sort of hinges on these people that you know, you're
exceptionally vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right, And that's I think that
speaks to the importance of the sacred job we have
as parents to protect our children. And certainly no parent
ever wants this to happen. Drake Bell's parents didn't want
this to happen to him. I'm sure nobody's parents want
this to happen. But we've got to be vigilant. And
(06:57):
you know, at my heart, at the end of it all,
it's it's it's it's infuriating to any parent to think
that someone would violate their child. And so I've got
compassion on these kids, not just the ones who are
all grown up now dealing with these scars and revealing
(07:19):
these dark secrets. But but also the kids who are
on television programs today that are perhaps dealing with the
exact same stuff that won't be outed for another decade,
and that's too late. It needs to be dealt with now.
And what I would like to be a part of
is creating the solution environments and programs that are good
(07:44):
for kids to work on and for kids to watch.
So I'm not here to just go on a tirade
about evil people because you know, but but but for
the grace of God, uh that there would be more
of them and more children would be victims. I think
that what we need to do is we need to
(08:07):
just raise the standard and help people rise to the
occasion of protecting children rather than abusing them.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Do you think what this documentary exposed is a broader
reflection on society.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
It's interesting. I like reading history to get a better
perspective in context for the stuff that we're dealing with.
So yeah, I think it is everything that we're seeing.
We're seeing, you know, child mutilation being talked about in
terms of gender affirming care. We're seeing all kinds of
(08:47):
right being called wrong and wrong being called right. Black
is white, white as black, and good is evil and
evil is good. We're seeing the fundamentals of reality and
society turned upside down. Men men only get pregnant now,
So when we see pedophilia and sexual sexual fetishes that
(09:08):
are seeming to become more prolific, we are shocked by them. However,
were only shocked by them because we used to have
a standard that would be outraged and forbid these things
to where these things just would never happen. But you know,
I think we're actually not progressing in our values as
(09:30):
the progressives would would like us to believe. I think
we're actually regressing back to a time before biblical values
were the norm. So you go back to ancient Rome,
or ancient Babylon or ancient Egypt, and to these societies
that were so pagan, so barbaric, that sacrificing children was normal,
(09:54):
that sexual fetishes were as bizarre and strange as you
could possibly imagine, and that was just the activities of
the day. The fact that we're outraged by this kind
of behavior in the documentary, I think is a good sign.
It means we've got a moral conscience that's actually worth something.
And now what we need to do is root out
(10:14):
the evil, and we need to have a standard that
is just as high as it used to be and
even higher to protect the hearts and minds of kids.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
When you said that, you know, I started thinking, you know,
how would society react even ten years ago to the
normalization of a child mutilating their body or taking puberty
blockers that have been given to sex offenders in the past.
You know, how would that society, like ten to fifteen
years ago react to what we're normalizing today?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, we I think we all know the question.
I had to say, Well, how would I have reacted
ten years ago? How you would have reacted most of
the stuff that we're seeing today ten years, ten years ago, fifteen,
twenty years ago, a few would have said, Hey, there's
coming a day where it's going to be not only
proposed that biological males are real females and that males
(11:11):
can get pregnant, but not only that that parents can
find out one day that their child has changed their
gender and had their genitals chopped off and given puberty
blockers and they never knew about it, and the ones
that tried to stop them. Child protection services came and
took the kids away from them and called them bad parents.
You'd say, you're smoking something so crazy that that could
(11:35):
never happen, and yet here we are today. I mean,
this isn't a you know, psychedelic mushroom trip that we're on.
This is what's actually happening again. It's it's a huge
wake up call to us. And now the answer is, well,
are we just going to you know, stay in bed
and keep our eyes closed and just let it continue
(11:56):
to regress or do we change the game? I personally
am not content hanging out with the whiners about all
the badness. I want to hang out with the winners
who want to create goodness. I don't want to complain
about the culture. I want to create the culture. I
think that's what the good guys are here for.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
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your your new project, how much of an impact do
you think you know, the these children's shows have on
you know kids, I mean we're saying, you know, pronouns
be introduced to kids in some of this programming. We've seen,
you know, sexually explicit books, you know in libraries. You
know how much how much influence does all of that
have on a kid?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Every parent knows every parent who's who has a kid,
and whose kid has a phone or has a tablet
or goes to school. Uh, you know, except maybe for
some really small groups of homeschooled kids are amish kids,
you know, who don't interact with the larger culture. It's
(14:08):
hugely influential. I mean, the percentage of children who have
suicidal thoughts is up massively. Anxiety and depression, gender dysphoria,
boys wanting to be girls, girls wanting to be all
of that coincides with the massive increase of those ideas
being propagated through kids shows, teenage shows, books, media, music,
(14:36):
all of that stuff. And that's why I've been so
so passionate about leaning into education and entertainment for young people,
because kids are growing up with no concept of even
who they are. I mean, for God's sake, they don't
know if they're a boy or a girl. Can't they can't,
(14:56):
you know, look down and figure it out. They've gotta
look inside and say, well, what do I want to be?
And well maybe what have And then God forbid, they
feel like they made a mistake and they want to
turn back. And then the very team that told them
they get to choose turns against them because they don't
want them to choose to go back to what they
(15:17):
used to be because somehow that's being a trader and
they're completely lost. Who do they trust? What is what
is true? And we as parents have to recognize this
is all happening on our watch. So it's our responsibility,
you know, until they literally come and rip your children
out of your hands. There's no excuse for sending them
(15:38):
to places and putting devices in their hands that transport
them to ideological health, because that's just going to rock
their souls. And there's no one else responsible but us
as parents, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But we're seeing some parents go along with it as well.
You know a lot of celebrity parents as well. You know,
my kids they now or you know, in purging, transitioning,
and you know what I mean. So it's like it's
parents too, And I guess like why, you know, you know,
you would think as a parent you would know, But
is it to be accepted? Is it because it's being
(16:13):
it's the cool thing like.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Why, yeah, well, you know, you and I can we
can speculate. I mean, I think that you and I
are probably, you know, on on somewhat the same page
about these things seeming outrageous and ridiculous. I can't think
of a reason why. But I also hear parents who
are saying things like, well, you know, I don't want
(16:36):
to be closed minded, and I don't want to discriminate
against ideas that are that are different than my own,
and I want to let my kids decide, when in reality,
they're really not letting their kids decide. Their kids are
being massively influenced by by outside forces that the parents
are not diligently protecting them from. You know, you've got
(16:56):
to know who you are and what your values are.
And if you don't know, and you don't teach those
things to your kids, other people will snatch your kids
right out from under you. If not physically kidnapping them,
they'll mentally hijack them through schools and through the screens.
And again that's I'm kind of done about whining and
complaining about all of this. I think I think we know,
(17:19):
if we've got a conscience, we've got lots of you know,
enemy identifiers on the radar screen, and we know we
need to do something about it. And so I'm partnering
with brave people who want to make the kinds of
things that are going to support parents who get it. Unfortunately,
some of them just don't see people who there's some
(17:40):
people who are never going to see. They're never going
to get it. But there are those who do see
and those who want to see. And these kinds of
whistle blowing interviews are great. And then it's like, all right,
you know, suit up and let's go to war to
fight for what is beautiful and true and good because
(18:00):
we don't have many years to influence our children and
every second counts well.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And you've been part of the you know, wanting to
create solutions right with the books that you've written and
going on through libraries and reading those books to kids.
And then now you have a new children's TV series
called The Adventure Adventures with Iggy and mister Kirk. I,
you know, tell us about sort of how this came about.
(18:28):
And for parents who are like, you know what, I
really would love some programming that I don't have to
worry about, you know, pronouns being injected and all these
different things.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
How did this come about? And tell us a little
bit about it?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Sure? Well, about a year ago I wrote a children's
book called As You Grow, and it's all about teaching
kids to grow the fruit of the Spirit. That's a
phrase that you'll find in the Book of Galatians in
the Bible, and that fruit is love, joy, peace, patience,
(18:59):
find goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self control. These are the
things you think every parent would want for their kids.
So I said, hey, let's go to a public library
and do a story hour, reading like other groups are doing. Well.
I was denied by over fifty woke libraries that previously
held drag Queen's story hours for children. So you can
(19:19):
be a man in fishnet stockings, heels, a wig and
lipstick and read some really confusing stuff to kids. But
if you want to go in and talk about faith,
hope and love, it was a hard no.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I ended up telling some friends of the news was
threatening to assert my constitutional rights for violation of the
First Amendment, and these libraries changed course. I went and
over three thousand parents and grandparents showed up at these events,
LA DC, New York City, Phoenix, Arizona all across the
(19:53):
country because millions of parents want good, wholesome values. So
now I'm making a new TV show for kids called
Adventures with Iggy and Mister Kirk, and it is our
generation's version of Mister Rogers Neighborhood. It has beautiful animation,
great wholesome, timeless values and lessons. We have legendary puppeteers
(20:18):
from Jim Henson, Sesame Street, the Muppets, as well as
great hilarious humor and actors and actresses that are all
jumping on board to be a part of this. And
we hope this is going to be around for decades
and be a staple for children to build their character
and for parents to trust.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Quick commercial break more with Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I imagine that this has been a really fun project for
you to you know, kind of take obviously your acting
background and then you know, wanting to be part of
the solution to a lot of the things we've discussed
throughout the show so far. How fun has this been
for you?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
So much fun? If you want to check out little
snippets of the show and what we're doing, you can
even watch it to see how fun it is. If
you go to watch Brave dot com. Watch Brave and
Brave is the company that is helping to produce the show,
Brave Books and you know, working with a little iguana
(21:21):
puppet named Iggy is hilarious. We've got a vulture named Culture,
and we've got a set full of legendary people, storytellers,
set builders, actors, actresses, puppeteers, and we are having a blast.
We're filming the first twenty episodes this summer and it's
(21:41):
going to be coming out for free for people on YouTube,
and then it will eventually find a home somewhere, but
for right now, we want everybody to see it. We
want it to be free, and we're not taking any
money from Hollywood because we don't want the woke strings
attached to that money. And we're funding it ourselves with
the help of Brave Americans who want to tribute. And
if you're listening now and you want to help us,
(22:03):
go to watch Brave dot com.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Is this Brave's first venture into doing the tea? I
know that very familiar with the books that they've done,
including yours. You know, we've had you on to talk
about it before. Is this their first venture into you know,
doing producing, you know, working on a television.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah, so I think so. And it's really my first
venture as well, into producing a children's television show. And
it feels like a good fit. You know, it's like
an old pair of sneakers. I remember being on Growing Pains,
and even before Growing Pains was in other family television shows,
even on my sister's Full House, So I remember what
(22:39):
it's like. And now being a parent, and now even
a grandparent. My daughter has our first granddaughter on the way.
I congratulations, thank you. More passionate than ever to do
what I can to get on the offense and and
get off the couch, get off the defense and be
on the winning side, advancing to good.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What do you hope kids take away from it?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Oh, kids are going to take away everything from learning
to be honest, to be brave, to be humble and kind.
They're also going to learn that the one who loves
them best is God in Heaven who made them. They're
also going to learn great pro American values. They're going
to learn the dangers of socialism through an episode we
(23:26):
have called The Island of Free ice Cream. And then
we've also got lessons in there about gender reality. Now
These aren't the kinds of lessons mister Rogers ever needed
to teach decades ago. But you know what, we need
to teach them to our children today. Why because the enemy,
(23:48):
the opposition, is already indoctrinating your children and mine with
these ideas the wrong way, the wrong direction, and so
we've got to direct that now and talk to our
kids about what it means to be a boy or
a girl, what it means that life is sacred from
(24:10):
the wound to the tomb. You don't mess with that,
And what it means to love a country that is
based on principles that will lead to your blessing and
your protection. All of this uh and more are the
takeaways from Adventures with a Gy and Mister Kirk For kids, well.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And it's nice for parents to know too, that you know,
they can turn something on and you know they don't
have to worry about uh, you know, some sort of
crazy uh messaging and you know, a top pronouns and
just all this other crazy stuff going on in the world.
That they can rest assured that the messages are going
to be Yeah, that they would teach their kids.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I think so that that's the goal, that's the that's
the intent.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
And at the same time, I'm the last person who
would say, hey, parents, you know, just suit your kids
down in front of a screen and don't worry about it. Listen,
always worry about it. Who cares what a celebrity says.
Who cares what a politician says, or even what a
doctor says. When it comes to the health of your
children mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, you are the gatekeeper. You
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are the guardian defend those children like a lion. You
make sure you know what's going into their eyes and
into their ears. And I want to be a friend
to you by helping you support the values that you
know are good for your kids. So you know, VET, me, VET,
the show, VET, everybody that has any contact with your children.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That's a really great point. Well, this sounds like an
awesome project. Really excited for you. I know it'll be
a huge success. I appreciate you coming on the show
to talk about why it's needed and then to also
to talk about adventures with Iggy and mister kirk Kirk Cameron.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
We appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well, thank you and thank you for devoting your time
to making sure that this show goes on week after
week after week and talking about important things, and appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And one more time for people. Where can they find
it and where can they contribute and help?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Well, you can find it by going to watch Brave
dot com. Watch Brave dot com and you can help
us get these shows fully funded. In the shows produced,
all the contributions are tax inductible and for them you
get these really cool, unique rewards to be part of
the show.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's awesome, all right, Well, Kirk Cameron, we really appreciate
you making the.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Time, all right, take care.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
How a good day that was, Kirk Cameron. Appreciate him
taking the time to come on the show. Appreciate you
guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but
you can listen throughout the week. What do I think John Cassio,
my producer, for putting the show together.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
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