May 20, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode, the focus is on former President Joe Biden's prostate cancer diagnosis. Lisa and Dr. Nicole Saphier discuss the implications of Biden's health on his presidency. Dr. Saphier explains the seriousness of Biden's Gleason score, indicating an aggressive form of cancer, and questions the transparency of his health reports. The episode also touches on the potential political ramifications and the need for greater transparency in the health disclosures of public officials. The Truth with Lisa Boothe is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On this explosive episode of the Truth with Lisa Booth,
We're going to confront the staggering truth about the former
president Joe Biden's health with doctor Nicole Saffhire. She's going
to unpack what we've just heard about the former president
that he has prostate cancer, a highly aggressive form of
prostate cancer, which a lot of people are saying this
about you don't get prostitutions.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I just want to sell you. So this is not speculation.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
If you have prostate cancer that has spread to the bone,
then he's most certainly you were saying had it when
he was president of the United States.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh yeah, he did not develop it in the last
one hundred two hundred days. He had it while he
was president. He probably had it at the start of
his presidency in twenty one. Yes, that I don't think
there's any disagreement about that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And that was doctor Zeke Emanuel on MSNBC Talk talking
about Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis. Now he's the architect of obamacair,
I mean, he's a left wing guy saying that.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
So despite this twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Four health report that we got for Joe Biden, his
last puppet report telling us that he was a robust
eighty one year old fit for duty.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Did he actually have cancer?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And of course all of this and the conversations about
his broader health, his mental health, his mental acuting, all
of this comes in the backdrop of these catastrophic events
we saw throughout his presidency, whether it was the botched
Afghanistan withdrawal, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or the October seventh attack,
all these moments that risk spiraling into a global conflict,
(01:41):
and he wasn't up for the job. This health crisis
was hidden for years likely, So we're going to get
into that and also these other shocking reports about his
mental health with that new book, Original Sin.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
So please tune in as we expose the cover ups,
the stakes.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And the truth that they didn't want you to know.
With doctor Nicole Sapphire, they see I always want to say,
do you say I think you've told me to call
you Nicole? You're doctor, so I feel like I need
to call you doctor because you've earned it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Do you want me to call you miss Lisa? And
I'm happy to call you Miss Lisa. You can call
me whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We're friends, so it makes sense you obviously call me
Nicole when we see each other all the time. When
you want to talk to me about medical stuff, if
you want to call me doctor, by all means, just
don't call me doctor Nicole, because.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I hate that. I think I've done that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's either Nicole or doctor Sapphire, nothing in between.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I think I've called you doctor Nicole when I've filled
it on Foxed once before, and I think after I
said it, I even thought to myself that was incorrect.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But it's like the one thing I'm like, just don't
do it. It's so stupid. Although I do.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Think if I had worked as hard as you did
to earn the degree, I think I might want to
be good.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
With the doctor.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
But honestly, most people call me doctor Sapphire. Like Rachel
in no way, shape or form can the words doctor
Sapphire come out of her mouth, so she calls me Nicole.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We got So what is it is hard when you're
like friends with you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
But anyways, well we'll do doctor for today.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
And yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
When people are asking me in public, like on TV
or on podcast about doctor stuff, like just for the
audience sake, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Get it, but I think they do like to know
that we're friends too.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, it's like I'm not just bringing my random friend
on to talk about uh, you know, cancer and medical.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's your opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Friends, what's heavy on the podcast, Miss Lisa?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
What you know there are there are serious things to
get into. You know, I was filling in on The
Big Show over the weekend, and you know, we had
you on, and you always do a great job of
breaking down these medical issues in terms that we can
kind of all understand and wrap our head around. And obviously,
on Sunday the news broke that the former president Joe
(03:56):
Biden has prostate cancer and they said it's a glease
and score of nine grade group five. So to a
lot of us who aren't in the medical industry and
the medical you know, and don't have a doctor or
you know, who aren't doctors, we don't really know what
that means. So I guess let's just kind of start
with that for those who are kind of getting up
(04:17):
to speed with everything, you know, what does this diagnosis
mean for the former president and which they know about
this particular type of cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So when I got the call on Sunday from Big
weekend show producers. I was actually elbows deep in making
homemade pasta sauce meatballs like a traditional nonest style Sunday supper,
and I actually had Guy Benson right in front of me.
He was over for as our guest for dinner, and
so when I cut the I just.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Paused right there.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I think I did see that, and I was like,
she's never invited me over for dinner, but anyways, more
important things, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You're always invited. So but it was funny because obviously
my phone.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm been in text messages, but I'm not paying attention
at the time, and so it rings. I answer it
and they're like, Stephire, can we please get you camera
to talk about the breaking news.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm like, yes, as soon as I read what that is.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So but when I read that it was cancer, I mean,
that is my day job. So for people that don't know,
I work in a very large cancer cancer academic institution
in New York City, one of the largest in the world,
and my day job is trying to find cancer at
his earliest stage. Then when I find it, I buy up,
see it, give the diagnosis, and then send people off
(05:29):
to the respective whether it need a surgeon or oncologist
or radiation. I do that about eighty percent of the day,
and then about twenty percent of the day I'm actually
reading the scans of patients who have metastatic cancer and
I'm evaluating if the disease is progressing or how it's
doing for treatment. So obviously, the diagnosis of prostate cancer
(05:50):
is right in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So when it comes to President Joe.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Biden, and what we know so far is they said
that he was diagnosed with what they're calling a gleasen
nine prostate cancer.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Just like breast cancer, prostate cancer is not.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Black and white. It's not one size fits all. There
are many different types of prostate cancers. Some are more
aggressive than others, meaning they grow faster, they have a
higher propensity or a risk of metastasizing or leaving the prostate.
It is scaled from two to ten, ten being the
most aggressive, the most fast moving, and this is diagnosed
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when you do a biopsy of the prostate of the
lesion on the prostate, a pathologist looks in the microscope
and looks at the number of cells there, how rapidly
they're dividing, and that's how they give you the Gleason scale,
so Biden's Gleason nine is considered extremely aggressive. Nine to
ten are the most aggressive, very fast moving. They also
(06:48):
noted that Biden's prostate cancer has metastasized to his bones.
So when you talk about prostate cancer, when you're talking
about the stage, the Gleason is the grade. It is
an aggressive grade. Now we're going to talk about the
stage of the cancer and when it's just confined to
the prostate the prostate gland, which is about the size
of a walnut. It's a small little gland. It sits
(07:08):
behind the bladder and men. If it's confined to the gland,
that's just local prostate cancer. If it breaks through the
gland and it's just in the area around it, maybe
in the surrounding tissues or just in the pelvic lymph nodes,
that's called local regional spread. Now, when it goes elsewhere,
and in this case, to the bones, that's your stage four.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That's worst case scenario.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So when it comes to former President Biden's diagnosis, it's
not only a highly aggressive, fast moving prostate cancer.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But he's already stage four.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So it's pretty much worst case scenario when it comes
to prostate cancer diagnoses.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You know, it's interesting and also doctoral. That's what I
was thinking of earlier. I had a brain fart when
I was This happens very frequently, particularly when you're tired,
like we were discussing, we both are, you know. I
thought what was interesting is sure you saw that clip
from MSNBC with doctor Zeke Emmanuel, and I mean, this
is like, he's a left wing guy, right, who's the
architect of Obamacare. He's also an oncologist, and he had
(08:10):
said on Mourning Joe that his assessment is that Joe
Biden did not develop it in the last one hundred
two hundred days that he had it while he was president,
who probably had it at the start of his presidency
in twenty twenty one. What is the likelihood that the
former president has been dealing with this for a while
now and we the public are just finding out.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's a really good question, Lisan.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know, at the end of the day, Biden's been
playing playing kind of hide and seek with his cognitive
decline for years. So keeping a prostate cancer diagnosis under wraps,
I mean, that's that would be pretty par for the
course for his administration. So I don't think it's unreasonable
that people are questioning whether he knew about his diagnosis
and he just kept it from the public. What I
can tell you I have seen all of a sudden,
(08:55):
everyone's an expert on prostate cancer online. I don't know
if you've noticed that, but you start hearing people, Oh,
I know because my great grandfather's brother's cousin had prostate cancer.
So undoubtedly this is what Joe Biden has. I'm like, okay, people,
so here's my take on it. Did this just pop
up in the last few weeks. Absolutely not. There is
(09:18):
not a doubt in my mind that the prostate cancer
developed likely when Biden was sometime in the White House.
Was it seven to ten years ago? I also would
say highly unlikely. This is an aggressive cancer. I would
say it's probably started growing maybe in the last six
months to three years. That doesn't mean he knew about it,
(09:39):
but that begs the bigger question is was he being
screened for prostate cancer? So one did his physician, who
Jill Biden said is like a son to her, did
he miss the prostate cancer? Did he know about it
and they diagnosed it and they just kept it under
wraps or did it really only develop with this last
(10:00):
year and he hasn't had any sort of prostate screening
since then, I think it is unlikely that it really
developed within.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
The last several months.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The last public physical exam that we know of was
from February twenty twenty four, and while they mentioned other
cancer screenings, they didn't mention prostate cancer screening, So we
don't know if he had it done at that time.
But I imagine had they done it at that time, there's
a high likelihood that is PSA or that's the blood
test you check that would indicate that something's going on
(10:32):
in the prostate. But by the way, you can have
benine things that can raise the PSA as well, so
having a raised PSA doesn't necessarily equate to cancer. If
they had checked for it last year, I would anticipate
that they would have seen a rise in the PSA.
But I will also say that it's possible that even
his cancer doesn't cause a rise in PSA, even though
(10:54):
that's more rare.
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Obviously they've lied to us about so much, you know,
and we're seeing clips resurface, like in July of twenty
(12:05):
twenty two when he was in Massachusetts and he said,
that's why I and so many, so so damn many
other people I grew up with have cancer. And then
you know, people are like, was he telling the truth?
You know, did he know that he had cancer at
that time when he had said it or was it
just a you know, did he just misspeak right, which
he has before. And then it also just raises questions
(12:27):
about the last publicly released health report on February twenty eight,
twenty twenty four, were his physician told us that, you know,
Joe Biden's a healthy, active, robust eighty one year old
male who was fit for duty with no new health concerns,
And it raises questions was that a lie?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So here are the questions that I have and you're
the big ones for me.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
In twenty twenty one, in Hit Joe Biden's annual exam,
he had a routine colonoscopy for colon cancer screening, and
he also had root teen skin checks for skin cancer screening. Well,
prostate cancer is the number two cancer in men, so
it's not one of the rare cancers in men. So
if he was undergoing screening for colon cancer and skin cancer,
(13:12):
it is highly probable then he was undergoing screenings for
prostate cancer, whatever reason, that was omitted from his annual examination. Now,
former President Obama and even President Trump, their annual exams
mentioned prostate cancer screening, because that's a very common thing
to do for men over the age of forty five
and fifty. But it was never mentioned in Joe Biden's.
(13:35):
And I don't know if that was intentional or unintentional.
One thing I can say, though, and here's where it
just gets a little bit muddy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
At the age of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Sometimes you stop cancer screening because you think factor in
life expectancy with the person's age and health, and you
kind of stop screening. But he was the president of
the United States, and he was being screened for these
other cancers, colon cancer, which is less likely to happen
in him than prostate cancer. So I would find it
very odd if they were not screening for prostate cancer.
(14:07):
So my gut tells me that they probably had an inclination.
Something was going on with this prostate I don't think
it was seven to ten years ago. I absolutely don't.
This is a highly aggressive, fast growing cancer, but I do.
I do suspect that if he had a PSA in
the last couple of years it should have shown an increase,
and I would hope at that point that they would
(14:29):
evaluate that.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
But it also, you know, kind of I guess, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So it's one of those things that you know obviously,
which you know too. When you hear things like this,
you start learning about just how prevalent cancer is in society,
like something like forty percent of us, you know, Americans
in our lifetimes will be diagnosed with cancer, or one
in eight men are diagnosed with prostate cancer, which these
are all statistics you're very familiar with with the work
that you do. But for the rest of us, and
(14:55):
it's like, you know, obviously, our hearts go out to
the guy like I don't like Joe Biden, but I
don't want him to die of cancer. I don't wish
ill upon him. I just you know, want him out
of the White House. And you know, but he has
a history of lying, and he also has a history
of weaponizing and leveraging cancer, even a son's death, for
political purposes, and so it is it would be kind
(15:17):
of gross for him to not tell us about this
and then to leverage it at a time when you
have all these audio recordings hitting with Robert Hurr, and
you've got this book surfacing with the original sin, which
it seems as if he's probably known about this for
a while and they're just now telling us at a
time that's politically convenient for him.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
You know, I think that you make an excellent point there. So,
first of all, you are right. There are about two
million new cancer diagnoses in the United States every single year.
Almost half are breast cancer and prostate cancer. So that's
really just how common these are, which is why we
regularly screen for them with mimography for women and PSA
and physical exam for men. With Joe Biden and this timing,
(15:59):
another thing that kind of seemed a little odd to
me was the essentially said that he presented with symptoms
this week and now he has a diagnosis, and it's
they've even confirmed that it has spread.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now in the real world, you know, where normal folk like.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Us live, You don't that doesn't happen in a four
to five day span.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know, someone presents with symptoms.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They have a physical examination, they do urine tests, maybe
they do some blood tests. Now they have an indication,
maybe there's a lesion on the prostate. Okay, well, now
it has to get scheduled for a biopsy. Okay, Then
you get the biopsy, and but you don't have the
pathology report immediately we have the information not only that
is a glease in nine, but that it's hormone sensitive,
(16:42):
and so that means even more tests were run on
that pathology specimen, which again takes time. Sometimes it takes
up to a week, sometimes it's two weeks. In a
former president's case, I'm sure it was a priority.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But it had to have taken at least a few days.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And then they said he was diagnosed with bone metastases. Okay, well,
so maybe they did a bone scan, which is a
nuclear medicine scan, or maybe they did a pet slash
CT scan, which is another nuclear medicine scan looking for
distant disease, so they may see lesions. But to actually
confirm that he has metastatic disease, then you have to
(17:19):
do a biopsy of the bone to confirm that it's
actually from the prostate cancer, which again takes time. And
then after you do that biopsy, the pathology takes more time.
So for me, the timeline doesn't say, hey, this hell
happened within the last week. It's possible again given that
he's a former president, but it's not probable. So did
(17:40):
he have this information maybe a few weeks ago, maybe
a month.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Ago, highly likely? Highly likely?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Did they release this from a pr Timing wise, I
would say if you look at the history of the
Biden family, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
And I just I find that to be gross, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And he did this with his son too, with his
son's death, you know, using his son as a you know,
a shield and a sword politically as well.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
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And like, I think a lot of people are like, oh.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
You know, it's like where are we going back?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And you know, focusing on Joe Biden's health and all
this different stuff. But I think the reason why it
matters so much is even if you look at the
interview with Special Counsel Robert Hurt, that was two days
after the October seventh terror attack. And so we had
a lot of events during his presidency, whether you know
the box Botch withdrawal from Afghanistan or Russia's invasion of Ukraine,
(20:02):
or the Homas terror attack on Israel that could have
easily at any point led to broader regional wars, even
a world war. And then you know, now we're finding
out which you know, we knew at the time. You
knew at the time that he was facing mental the client,
but that also potentially fighting cancer. And so you know,
we had these pivotal world events that could have changed
(20:26):
the course of history, which you know they already have,
but to even more significance, and we have a guy
who's just totally inept and unable to do the job well.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So first of all, let's remember.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Lloyd Austin, defend Secretary of Lloyd Eisen at the time,
was also diagnosed with prostate cancer underwent a prosetectomy December
twenty twenty three. Only because he had complications. Did it
come out after the fact that he had prostate cancer
and that he was undergoing treatment and that he was
essentially incapacitated. The American people didn't know, so they have
(20:59):
not been very forthcoming with things. President Biden could have
been diagnosed with prostate cancer throughout his presidency. He doesn't
have to tell the American people, and his physician certainly
doesn't have to disclose that. Is it deceptive, Absolutely, but
I don't think it is out of the realm of
normal for a politician to keep things as we saw
(21:20):
with Joe Biden's obvious mental decline. That begs the question
as to what as we as American people, what do
we deserve from our leaders? The guarantee of mental and
physical fitness. All we get are these silly, little annual
statements from the.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Physician each year, which are usually full.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Of bombastic claims. I put very little merit to them.
But maybe their medical records should actually be public and
there should be something in it that they cannot withhold
from the American people.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't know. Because lives are at risk, countries are
at risk.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I mean, they essentially hold the hand of you know,
our entire country, and if they're keeping things from us,
potentially what could be affecting them mentally and physically.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I just don't know how right that is to the
American people.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, it's also I mean, you've are way too familiar
with with cancer and with seeing people go through it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I guess, you know, because there's also.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Questions of you know, all those times that he went
back to Rehoboth and you know, he was gone from
the White House, and you know, like were those treatment
you know, was he going to treatment during that time?
I mean what kind of toll would this take on
a body? And would that prevent someone of his age
from being able to serve in a full capacity as
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president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's a really good question, and I actually talked about
this a little bit on Clay and Buck yesterday, saying,
is it possible that those trips to Delaware were for treatment?
I mean, we saw him just relaxing on the beach
a lot. We saw him really just relaxing during this time.
So it's absolutely possible if he were diagnosed with an
earlier form of prostate cancer like Lloyd Austin was, then
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he would have potentially underwent surgery, underwent radiation, and those
would have put him out physically, maybe even mentally. It
doesn't seem like he did any of that, based on
again the limited information that we have. Once you're diagnosed
with an advanced stage four prostate cancer, you're not really
doing the surgery or the radiation because the cancer is
(23:29):
already spread. The whole purpose of those early interventions is
to stop it from spreading.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, now it has spread. So the treatment options.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Mainly for Biden at this point are anti hormone therapy
since we've already found out that it's sensitive to hormones.
So you can either do surgical castration where you remove
the testicles, or you do a medical castration, which is
much more common and highly more likely, where he's essentially
given anti androgen medication. It shuts off those pathways and
(23:58):
it'll just decrease his testostere Now, can you have brain
fog with that and fatigue?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Let's also remember this cancer is now in his bones.
Bone pain, especially from cancer, is one of the most
horrific pains that you could have, and it's very hard
to treat. So it's possible that he's been in severe pain.
We don't know how long he's had metastatic disease. He
may have been in severe pain for months and maybe
they didn't realize it was cancer. They just thought it
(24:25):
was his old age. We know he has the generative
change of his spine. They've commented for years on that
and that's what they've said. His shuffling gait was become
not Parkinson's like many.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Of us have suspected.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But so maybe they've been treating him for pain. Has
he been on pain medications? As we know pain medications
it can also cloud judgment and affect your mentation.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We really don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
The reality is chronic pain can absolutely affect you as
well as Again, he's eighty two. We know that he
has cognitive decline and when you have something physically going
wrong with you, cancer, that could exacerbate your cognitive decline
and your decrease menation.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And before we go, you have a new podcast and
it's called Wellness Unmasked. Tell us about it, Where can
people check it out and what can they expect when
they tune in.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, I'm super excited to be joining you in the
clam Book Network Wellness Unmasked with doctor Nicole Staffire you know, Lisa,
you and I go on TV all the time, and
when we are talking about subjects, it's really hard to
get in a lot in three minutes. I mean sometimes
I feel like all I did was say hello and
then I was.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Like Okay, goodbye.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So but I get so many messages from friends, family
and just people online saying, gosh, I really wanted to.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Hear more about that study. Can you please give some tips?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And I'm like, you know what, the podcast is a
perfect platform for this. I can dive a little bit
deeper into the science of things and then you know,
switch off from the academic side and just talk about
the lifestyle piece, like, hey, how can we use this
information and lead better lives? You know, I want to
kind of debunk all the things, and you know, all
(26:07):
the stuff we're seeing out there, whether it's cold plunges,
whether it's your seed oils that we keep hearing RFK
Junior talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You know, what's the science behind it? Is it really
worth it?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And how can we all live a little bit happier
and healthier and just enjoy our lives a bit more?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And so that's what will in the Sun Maass is
all about.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Our podcast this week, chef Andrew Gruhle came on.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I had him very excited about this.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
We've talked about linelec acid, which sounds fancy and maybe
you'd only see it in a chemistry lab, but no, no, no,
it's in the majority of foods that we find that
we're buying from the supermarket or the restaurants. And not
only does it lead to obesity, but this actual component
lineleic acid may be resulting in cancer all by itself
(26:51):
in your body, so you don't want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well. And also this is totally authentic for you because
I think you're like the first I think to make
America healthy again with your book, and I'm forgetting the
date that it was published, but it was a while ago,
so you were like on the front lines of talking
about how we need to be healthier as a country,
and you also like live that lifestyle as well, so
really interesting stuff. And obviously we're all you know, there
(27:16):
is a renewed focus on health and wellness in the country,
and then how to prevent some of these things from
happening and addressing the root causes before we have to
turn to medicine or treatments and all the rest of it.
So you're the perfect messager for all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. Make America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
How bad behavior and big government caused a trillion dollar
crisis that came out May twenty twenty, and it was
all about how our chronic illness epidemic is rendering us
vulnerable as a nation. And it was two months after
COVID essentially started. And what did we find with covid?
Our chronic illness is why we had such high fatality
rates in the United States. So yes, we have to
(27:56):
be We don't have to be fitness, you know, Jim
Rats or new traditional experts.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
But we all could be doing a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I had twenty twenty one in my head for whatever reason,
but I'm glad I didn't say that because it was wrong.
So I knew it was a few years ago, were twenty.
We're not operating on full cylinders this morning.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's all right, You're doing great? Or am I ever?
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I just kidding, all right, Well, doctor no, col Sapphire.
I'm excited for your podcast and always appreciate having you
on and seeing you and being able to catch up.
So and I'm looking forward to coming over to dinner, So.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You're welcome anytime, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
As I can find myself over here out all right,
you're the best.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I appreciate it, See you soon. I was doctor Nicole Saphire.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Appreciate her so much for taking the time to join
the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every
Tuesday and Thursday, but of course you can listen throughout
the week until next time.
On this explosive episode of the Truth with Lisa Booth,
We're going to confront the staggering truth about the former
president Joe Biden's health with doctor Nicole Saffhire. She's going
to unpack what we've just heard about the former president
that he has prostate cancer, a highly aggressive form of
prostate cancer, which a lot of people are saying this
about you don't get prostitutions.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I just want to sell you. So this is not speculation.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
If you have prostate cancer that has spread to the bone,
then he's most certainly you were saying had it when
he was president of the United States.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh yeah, he did not develop it in the last
one hundred two hundred days. He had it while he
was president. He probably had it at the start of
his presidency in twenty one. Yes, that I don't think
there's any disagreement about that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And that was doctor Zeke Emanuel on MSNBC Talk talking
about Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis. Now he's the architect of obamacair,
I mean, he's a left wing guy saying that.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
So despite this twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Four health report that we got for Joe Biden, his
last puppet report telling us that he was a robust
eighty one year old fit for duty.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Did he actually have cancer?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And of course all of this and the conversations about
his broader health, his mental health, his mental acuting, all
of this comes in the backdrop of these catastrophic events
we saw throughout his presidency, whether it was the botched
Afghanistan withdrawal, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or the October seventh attack,
all these moments that risk spiraling into a global conflict,
(01:41):
and he wasn't up for the job. This health crisis
was hidden for years likely, So we're going to get
into that and also these other shocking reports about his
mental health with that new book, Original Sin.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
So please tune in as we expose the cover ups,
the stakes.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And the truth that they didn't want you to know.
With doctor Nicole Sapphire, they see I always want to say,
do you say I think you've told me to call
you Nicole? You're doctor, so I feel like I need
to call you doctor because you've earned it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Do you want me to call you miss Lisa? And
I'm happy to call you Miss Lisa. You can call
me whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
We're friends, so it makes sense you obviously call me
Nicole when we see each other all the time. When
you want to talk to me about medical stuff, if
you want to call me doctor, by all means, just
don't call me doctor Nicole, because.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I hate that. I think I've done that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's either Nicole or doctor Sapphire, nothing in between.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I think I've called you doctor Nicole when I've filled
it on Foxed once before, and I think after I
said it, I even thought to myself that was incorrect.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
But it's like the one thing I'm like, just don't
do it. It's so stupid. Although I do.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Think if I had worked as hard as you did
to earn the degree, I think I might want to
be good.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
With the doctor.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
But honestly, most people call me doctor Sapphire. Like Rachel
in no way, shape or form can the words doctor
Sapphire come out of her mouth, so she calls me Nicole.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We got So what is it is hard when you're
like friends with you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
But anyways, well we'll do doctor for today.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
And yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
When people are asking me in public, like on TV
or on podcast about doctor stuff, like just for the
audience sake, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Get it, but I think they do like to know
that we're friends too.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, it's like I'm not just bringing my random friend
on to talk about uh, you know, cancer and medical.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's your opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Friends, what's heavy on the podcast, Miss Lisa?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
What you know there are there are serious things to
get into. You know, I was filling in on The
Big Show over the weekend, and you know, we had
you on, and you always do a great job of
breaking down these medical issues in terms that we can
kind of all understand and wrap our head around. And obviously,
on Sunday the news broke that the former president Joe
(03:56):
Biden has prostate cancer and they said it's a glease
and score of nine grade group five. So to a
lot of us who aren't in the medical industry and
the medical you know, and don't have a doctor or
you know, who aren't doctors, we don't really know what
that means. So I guess let's just kind of start
with that for those who are kind of getting up
(04:17):
to speed with everything, you know, what does this diagnosis
mean for the former president and which they know about
this particular type of cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So when I got the call on Sunday from Big
weekend show producers. I was actually elbows deep in making
homemade pasta sauce meatballs like a traditional nonest style Sunday supper,
and I actually had Guy Benson right in front of me.
He was over for as our guest for dinner, and
so when I cut the I just.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Paused right there.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I think I did see that, and I was like,
she's never invited me over for dinner, but anyways, more
important things, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You're always invited. So but it was funny because obviously
my phone.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm been in text messages, but I'm not paying attention
at the time, and so it rings. I answer it
and they're like, Stephire, can we please get you camera
to talk about the breaking news.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm like, yes, as soon as I read what that is.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So but when I read that it was cancer, I mean,
that is my day job. So for people that don't know,
I work in a very large cancer cancer academic institution
in New York City, one of the largest in the world,
and my day job is trying to find cancer at
his earliest stage. Then when I find it, I buy up,
see it, give the diagnosis, and then send people off
(05:29):
to the respective whether it need a surgeon or oncologist
or radiation. I do that about eighty percent of the day,
and then about twenty percent of the day I'm actually
reading the scans of patients who have metastatic cancer and
I'm evaluating if the disease is progressing or how it's
doing for treatment. So obviously, the diagnosis of prostate cancer
(05:50):
is right in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So when it comes to President Joe.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Biden, and what we know so far is they said
that he was diagnosed with what they're calling a gleasen
nine prostate cancer.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Just like breast cancer, prostate cancer is not.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Black and white. It's not one size fits all. There
are many different types of prostate cancers. Some are more
aggressive than others, meaning they grow faster, they have a
higher propensity or a risk of metastasizing or leaving the prostate.
It is scaled from two to ten, ten being the
most aggressive, the most fast moving, and this is diagnosed
(06:26):
when you do a biopsy of the prostate of the
lesion on the prostate, a pathologist looks in the microscope
and looks at the number of cells there, how rapidly
they're dividing, and that's how they give you the Gleason scale,
so Biden's Gleason nine is considered extremely aggressive. Nine to
ten are the most aggressive, very fast moving. They also
(06:48):
noted that Biden's prostate cancer has metastasized to his bones.
So when you talk about prostate cancer, when you're talking
about the stage, the Gleason is the grade. It is
an aggressive grade. Now we're going to talk about the
stage of the cancer and when it's just confined to
the prostate the prostate gland, which is about the size
of a walnut. It's a small little gland. It sits
(07:08):
behind the bladder and men. If it's confined to the gland,
that's just local prostate cancer. If it breaks through the
gland and it's just in the area around it, maybe
in the surrounding tissues or just in the pelvic lymph nodes,
that's called local regional spread. Now, when it goes elsewhere,
and in this case, to the bones, that's your stage four.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That's worst case scenario.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So when it comes to former President Biden's diagnosis, it's
not only a highly aggressive, fast moving prostate cancer.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But he's already stage four.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So it's pretty much worst case scenario when it comes
to prostate cancer diagnoses.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You know, it's interesting and also doctoral. That's what I
was thinking of earlier. I had a brain fart when
I was This happens very frequently, particularly when you're tired,
like we were discussing, we both are, you know. I
thought what was interesting is sure you saw that clip
from MSNBC with doctor Zeke Emmanuel, and I mean, this
is like, he's a left wing guy, right, who's the
architect of Obamacare. He's also an oncologist, and he had
(08:10):
said on Mourning Joe that his assessment is that Joe
Biden did not develop it in the last one hundred
two hundred days that he had it while he was president,
who probably had it at the start of his presidency
in twenty twenty one. What is the likelihood that the
former president has been dealing with this for a while
now and we the public are just finding out.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's a really good question, Lisan.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You know, at the end of the day, Biden's been
playing playing kind of hide and seek with his cognitive
decline for years. So keeping a prostate cancer diagnosis under wraps,
I mean, that's that would be pretty par for the
course for his administration. So I don't think it's unreasonable
that people are questioning whether he knew about his diagnosis
and he just kept it from the public. What I
can tell you I have seen all of a sudden,
(08:55):
everyone's an expert on prostate cancer online. I don't know
if you've noticed that, but you start hearing people, Oh,
I know because my great grandfather's brother's cousin had prostate cancer.
So undoubtedly this is what Joe Biden has. I'm like, okay, people,
so here's my take on it. Did this just pop
up in the last few weeks. Absolutely not. There is
(09:18):
not a doubt in my mind that the prostate cancer
developed likely when Biden was sometime in the White House.
Was it seven to ten years ago? I also would
say highly unlikely. This is an aggressive cancer. I would
say it's probably started growing maybe in the last six
months to three years. That doesn't mean he knew about it,
(09:39):
but that begs the bigger question is was he being
screened for prostate cancer? So one did his physician, who
Jill Biden said is like a son to her, did
he miss the prostate cancer? Did he know about it
and they diagnosed it and they just kept it under
wraps or did it really only develop with this last
(10:00):
year and he hasn't had any sort of prostate screening
since then, I think it is unlikely that it really
developed within.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
The last several months.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The last public physical exam that we know of was
from February twenty twenty four, and while they mentioned other
cancer screenings, they didn't mention prostate cancer screening, So we
don't know if he had it done at that time.
But I imagine had they done it at that time, there's
a high likelihood that is PSA or that's the blood
test you check that would indicate that something's going on
(10:32):
in the prostate. But by the way, you can have
benine things that can raise the PSA as well, so
having a raised PSA doesn't necessarily equate to cancer. If
they had checked for it last year, I would anticipate
that they would have seen a rise in the PSA.
But I will also say that it's possible that even
his cancer doesn't cause a rise in PSA, even though
(10:54):
that's more rare.
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Obviously they've lied to us about so much, you know,
and we're seeing clips resurface, like in July of twenty
(12:05):
twenty two when he was in Massachusetts and he said,
that's why I and so many, so so damn many
other people I grew up with have cancer. And then
you know, people are like, was he telling the truth?
You know, did he know that he had cancer at
that time when he had said it or was it
just a you know, did he just misspeak right, which
he has before. And then it also just raises questions
(12:27):
about the last publicly released health report on February twenty eight,
twenty twenty four, were his physician told us that, you know,
Joe Biden's a healthy, active, robust eighty one year old
male who was fit for duty with no new health concerns,
And it raises questions was that a lie?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So here are the questions that I have and you're
the big ones for me.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
In twenty twenty one, in Hit Joe Biden's annual exam,
he had a routine colonoscopy for colon cancer screening, and
he also had root teen skin checks for skin cancer screening. Well,
prostate cancer is the number two cancer in men, so
it's not one of the rare cancers in men. So
if he was undergoing screening for colon cancer and skin cancer,
(13:12):
it is highly probable then he was undergoing screenings for
prostate cancer, whatever reason, that was omitted from his annual examination. Now,
former President Obama and even President Trump, their annual exams
mentioned prostate cancer screening, because that's a very common thing
to do for men over the age of forty five
and fifty. But it was never mentioned in Joe Biden's.
(13:35):
And I don't know if that was intentional or unintentional.
One thing I can say, though, and here's where it
just gets a little bit muddy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
At the age of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Sometimes you stop cancer screening because you think factor in
life expectancy with the person's age and health, and you
kind of stop screening. But he was the president of
the United States, and he was being screened for these
other cancers, colon cancer, which is less likely to happen
in him than prostate cancer. So I would find it
very odd if they were not screening for prostate cancer.
(14:07):
So my gut tells me that they probably had an inclination.
Something was going on with this prostate I don't think
it was seven to ten years ago. I absolutely don't.
This is a highly aggressive, fast growing cancer, but I do.
I do suspect that if he had a PSA in
the last couple of years it should have shown an increase,
and I would hope at that point that they would
(14:29):
evaluate that.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
But it also, you know, kind of I guess, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So it's one of those things that you know obviously,
which you know too. When you hear things like this,
you start learning about just how prevalent cancer is in society,
like something like forty percent of us, you know, Americans
in our lifetimes will be diagnosed with cancer, or one
in eight men are diagnosed with prostate cancer, which these
are all statistics you're very familiar with with the work
that you do. But for the rest of us, and
(14:55):
it's like, you know, obviously, our hearts go out to
the guy like I don't like Joe Biden, but I
don't want him to die of cancer. I don't wish
ill upon him. I just you know, want him out
of the White House. And you know, but he has
a history of lying, and he also has a history
of weaponizing and leveraging cancer, even a son's death, for
political purposes, and so it is it would be kind
(15:17):
of gross for him to not tell us about this
and then to leverage it at a time when you
have all these audio recordings hitting with Robert Hurr, and
you've got this book surfacing with the original sin, which
it seems as if he's probably known about this for
a while and they're just now telling us at a
time that's politically convenient for him.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
You know, I think that you make an excellent point there. So,
first of all, you are right. There are about two
million new cancer diagnoses in the United States every single year.
Almost half are breast cancer and prostate cancer. So that's
really just how common these are, which is why we
regularly screen for them with mimography for women and PSA
and physical exam for men. With Joe Biden and this timing,
(15:59):
another thing that kind of seemed a little odd to
me was the essentially said that he presented with symptoms
this week and now he has a diagnosis, and it's
they've even confirmed that it has spread.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Now in the real world, you know, where normal folk like.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Us live, You don't that doesn't happen in a four
to five day span.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know, someone presents with symptoms.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They have a physical examination, they do urine tests, maybe
they do some blood tests. Now they have an indication,
maybe there's a lesion on the prostate. Okay, well, now
it has to get scheduled for a biopsy. Okay, Then
you get the biopsy, and but you don't have the
pathology report immediately we have the information not only that
is a glease in nine, but that it's hormone sensitive,
(16:42):
and so that means even more tests were run on
that pathology specimen, which again takes time. Sometimes it takes
up to a week, sometimes it's two weeks. In a
former president's case, I'm sure it was a priority.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But it had to have taken at least a few days.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And then they said he was diagnosed with bone metastases. Okay, well,
so maybe they did a bone scan, which is a
nuclear medicine scan, or maybe they did a pet slash
CT scan, which is another nuclear medicine scan looking for
distant disease, so they may see lesions. But to actually
confirm that he has metastatic disease, then you have to
(17:19):
do a biopsy of the bone to confirm that it's
actually from the prostate cancer, which again takes time. And
then after you do that biopsy, the pathology takes more time.
So for me, the timeline doesn't say, hey, this hell
happened within the last week. It's possible again given that
he's a former president, but it's not probable. So did
(17:40):
he have this information maybe a few weeks ago, maybe
a month.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Ago, highly likely? Highly likely?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Did they release this from a pr Timing wise, I
would say if you look at the history of the
Biden family, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
And I just I find that to be gross, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And he did this with his son too, with his
son's death, you know, using his son as a you know,
a shield and a sword politically as well.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
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And like, I think a lot of people are like, oh.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
You know, it's like where are we going back?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And you know, focusing on Joe Biden's health and all
this different stuff. But I think the reason why it
matters so much is even if you look at the
interview with Special Counsel Robert Hurt, that was two days
after the October seventh terror attack. And so we had
a lot of events during his presidency, whether you know
the box Botch withdrawal from Afghanistan or Russia's invasion of Ukraine,
(20:02):
or the Homas terror attack on Israel that could have
easily at any point led to broader regional wars, even
a world war. And then you know, now we're finding
out which you know, we knew at the time. You
knew at the time that he was facing mental the client,
but that also potentially fighting cancer. And so you know,
we had these pivotal world events that could have changed
(20:26):
the course of history, which you know they already have,
but to even more significance, and we have a guy
who's just totally inept and unable to do the job well.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
So first of all, let's remember.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Lloyd Austin, defend Secretary of Lloyd Eisen at the time,
was also diagnosed with prostate cancer underwent a prosetectomy December
twenty twenty three. Only because he had complications. Did it
come out after the fact that he had prostate cancer
and that he was undergoing treatment and that he was
essentially incapacitated. The American people didn't know, so they have
(20:59):
not been very forthcoming with things. President Biden could have
been diagnosed with prostate cancer throughout his presidency. He doesn't
have to tell the American people, and his physician certainly
doesn't have to disclose that. Is it deceptive, Absolutely, but
I don't think it is out of the realm of
normal for a politician to keep things as we saw
(21:20):
with Joe Biden's obvious mental decline. That begs the question
as to what as we as American people, what do
we deserve from our leaders? The guarantee of mental and
physical fitness. All we get are these silly, little annual
statements from the.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Physician each year, which are usually full.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Of bombastic claims. I put very little merit to them.
But maybe their medical records should actually be public and
there should be something in it that they cannot withhold
from the American people.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't know. Because lives are at risk, countries are
at risk.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I mean, they essentially hold the hand of you know,
our entire country, and if they're keeping things from us,
potentially what could be affecting them mentally and physically.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I just don't know how right that is to the
American people.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, it's also I mean, you've are way too familiar
with with cancer and with seeing people go through it.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I guess, you know, because there's also.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Questions of you know, all those times that he went
back to Rehoboth and you know, he was gone from
the White House, and you know, like were those treatment
you know, was he going to treatment during that time?
I mean what kind of toll would this take on
a body? And would that prevent someone of his age
from being able to serve in a full capacity as
(22:44):
president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's a really good question, and I actually talked about
this a little bit on Clay and Buck yesterday, saying,
is it possible that those trips to Delaware were for treatment?
I mean, we saw him just relaxing on the beach
a lot. We saw him really just relaxing during this time.
So it's absolutely possible if he were diagnosed with an
earlier form of prostate cancer like Lloyd Austin was, then
(23:08):
he would have potentially underwent surgery, underwent radiation, and those
would have put him out physically, maybe even mentally. It
doesn't seem like he did any of that, based on
again the limited information that we have. Once you're diagnosed
with an advanced stage four prostate cancer, you're not really
doing the surgery or the radiation because the cancer is
(23:29):
already spread. The whole purpose of those early interventions is
to stop it from spreading.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, now it has spread. So the treatment options.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Mainly for Biden at this point are anti hormone therapy
since we've already found out that it's sensitive to hormones.
So you can either do surgical castration where you remove
the testicles, or you do a medical castration, which is
much more common and highly more likely, where he's essentially
given anti androgen medication. It shuts off those pathways and
(23:58):
it'll just decrease his testostere Now, can you have brain
fog with that and fatigue?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Let's also remember this cancer is now in his bones.
Bone pain, especially from cancer, is one of the most
horrific pains that you could have, and it's very hard
to treat. So it's possible that he's been in severe pain.
We don't know how long he's had metastatic disease. He
may have been in severe pain for months and maybe
they didn't realize it was cancer. They just thought it
(24:25):
was his old age. We know he has the generative
change of his spine. They've commented for years on that
and that's what they've said. His shuffling gait was become
not Parkinson's like many.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Of us have suspected.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
But so maybe they've been treating him for pain. Has
he been on pain medications? As we know pain medications
it can also cloud judgment and affect your mentation.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We really don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
The reality is chronic pain can absolutely affect you as
well as Again, he's eighty two. We know that he
has cognitive decline and when you have something physically going
wrong with you, cancer, that could exacerbate your cognitive decline
and your decrease menation.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And before we go, you have a new podcast and
it's called Wellness Unmasked. Tell us about it, Where can
people check it out and what can they expect when
they tune in.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, I'm super excited to be joining you in the
clam Book Network Wellness Unmasked with doctor Nicole Staffire you know, Lisa,
you and I go on TV all the time, and
when we are talking about subjects, it's really hard to
get in a lot in three minutes. I mean sometimes
I feel like all I did was say hello and
then I was.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Like Okay, goodbye.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
So but I get so many messages from friends, family
and just people online saying, gosh, I really wanted to.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Hear more about that study. Can you please give some tips?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And I'm like, you know what, the podcast is a
perfect platform for this. I can dive a little bit
deeper into the science of things and then you know,
switch off from the academic side and just talk about
the lifestyle piece, like, hey, how can we use this
information and lead better lives? You know, I want to
kind of debunk all the things, and you know, all
(26:07):
the stuff we're seeing out there, whether it's cold plunges,
whether it's your seed oils that we keep hearing RFK
Junior talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You know, what's the science behind it? Is it really
worth it?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And how can we all live a little bit happier
and healthier and just enjoy our lives a bit more?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And so that's what will in the Sun Maass is
all about.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Our podcast this week, chef Andrew Gruhle came on.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I had him very excited about this.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
We've talked about linelec acid, which sounds fancy and maybe
you'd only see it in a chemistry lab, but no, no, no,
it's in the majority of foods that we find that
we're buying from the supermarket or the restaurants. And not
only does it lead to obesity, but this actual component
lineleic acid may be resulting in cancer all by itself
(26:51):
in your body, so you don't want to miss it.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well. And also this is totally authentic for you because
I think you're like the first I think to make
America healthy again with your book, and I'm forgetting the
date that it was published, but it was a while ago,
so you were like on the front lines of talking
about how we need to be healthier as a country,
and you also like live that lifestyle as well, so
really interesting stuff. And obviously we're all you know, there
(27:16):
is a renewed focus on health and wellness in the country,
and then how to prevent some of these things from
happening and addressing the root causes before we have to
turn to medicine or treatments and all the rest of it.
So you're the perfect messager for all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, well, I appreciate that. Make America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
How bad behavior and big government caused a trillion dollar
crisis that came out May twenty twenty, and it was
all about how our chronic illness epidemic is rendering us
vulnerable as a nation. And it was two months after
COVID essentially started. And what did we find with covid?
Our chronic illness is why we had such high fatality
rates in the United States. So yes, we have to
(27:56):
be We don't have to be fitness, you know, Jim
Rats or new traditional experts.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
But we all could be doing a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I had twenty twenty one in my head for whatever reason,
but I'm glad I didn't say that because it was wrong.
So I knew it was a few years ago, were twenty.
We're not operating on full cylinders this morning.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's all right, You're doing great? Or am I ever?
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I just kidding, all right, Well, doctor no, col Sapphire.
I'm excited for your podcast and always appreciate having you
on and seeing you and being able to catch up.
So and I'm looking forward to coming over to dinner, So.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You're welcome anytime, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
As I can find myself over here out all right,
you're the best.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I appreciate it, See you soon. I was doctor Nicole Saphire.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Appreciate her so much for taking the time to join
the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every
Tuesday and Thursday, but of course you can listen throughout
the week until next time.
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