April 3, 2023 • 28 mins
In this episode of the Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor is joined by Kyle Olson, the founder of The Midwesterner to discuss Michigan Congresswomen Elissa Slotkin's response to the Michigan State mass shooting and school safety. Why does she keep turning her back on innocent children? Tudor and Kyle break it all down. Subscribe now to the Tudor Dixon Podcast - new episodes debut every Monday, Wednesday, & Friday. Visit TudorDixonPodcast.com for more info.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Buck Sexon and you're listening to the
Tunor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Drivers and Buck
Sexton podcast Network. Hello and welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
I'm Tutor Dixon, and I'm excited to have you joined
me today. Today I get to have somebody actually here
with me. My guest has been breaking a lot of
news in Michigan and he's currently following the Senate campaign
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of Alyssa Slotkin, which is why I wanted to have
him here today because I have a lot to say
about this. I'm sort of fired up anyway. Kyle Olson,
the founder of The Midwesterner, right here with me. Thanks
for being on. Thanks for having me absolutely so. The
reason I'm fired up about this is because we've gone
through two school shootings now, just in the past few weeks.
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We've had the one in Nashville, the one at Michigan State.
Alyssa Slotkin is using this as her campaign mechanism. Now
she's running on really she's running on the deaths of
our children, and I think it's disgusting. I think that
this is not a political issue. I think nothing is
done about it because there are two different political sides
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to this issue when there's really an answer down the
middle that we're not even looking at because politicians get
in the way, quite frankly, and not in a good way.
So tell us what Elissa's doing now. Yeah, it's really
interesting to see how Elissa Slotkin has really sort of
been pushed to the front. I noticed this when I
have been working on the site and posting stories. I
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noticed this first when remember when the balloon was shot
down over Michigan. Well, she's a military expert. I don't
know if you know, yes, and so she is all
of a sudden was in front of the cameras talking
about her CIA experience and all of that, and I thought, oh,
that's that's kind of a strange thing because it's not
her district. She's not. It just didn't make any sense.
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So then when the MSU shooting happened, she immediately again
was right out front. And what was interesting to me was,
again as I was posting these stories, there was a
story last week about how she basically is trying to
make gun control a centerpiece of her campaign, and she's
campaigning on this whole idea of creating more gun laws,
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and so there was a Detroit News story from March
twenty March twenty first, and it started like this. Elyssa
a US representative, Elyssa Slotkin was leaving an event in
Oakland County last month when the Lansing Democrat got word
of an active shooter on the campus of Michigan State University.
She put her foot on the gas and drove ninety
miles an hour on Interstate sixty nine to East Lansing
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set up setting up a mobile office of sorts in
the basement of the police department, where the mayor was
also stationed a mobile campaign office. I mean, let's be
honest about this. This is what she did. She drove there,
and she says, I'm gonna I'm gonna fight this. But
the bizarre thing about this is that one of these
bills that she's going to be introducing is exactly what's
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on the books here in Michigan. Had it been followed
in Michigan, this likely would not have happened at MSU.
So it's all just bologna. They can say, your thoughts
and prayers mean nothing, your fake bills mean nothing else.
So that's interesting because there was just last week on Wednesday,
she did a press conference, of course, because that's what
politicians love to do, where she introduced a couple of
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different bills where she claims this is going to help
solve the problem. And so what she is basically proposing
a couple of things. She's proposing the No Crime Left
Behind Act, which would prohibit transfer of a gun for
three years to someone after they were convicted of a
misdemeanor during which they carried or possessed a gun. So
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you think about that and what I mean, what as
you have looked at these other stories, what difference do
you think that is going to make? But only it
only makes a difference, first of all, if it is
actually enforced. That was the law here. So this guy
that goes on MSU's campus, he was convicted of a
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crime with a gun. It was he got to plead
down to a misdemeanor. So if they had actually prosecuted
this crime, he would not have been able to buy
a gun, which he did buy a gun and then
he went on the MSU campus. So they come out
with these bologny laws that they say are going to
do something when laws like this are already on the books.
But the funny thing about democrats is then they don't
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want to enforce those laws because that would be what
I don't know, bias in some way if you enforce
these laws. Well, well that's a whole an other subject
where they are trying to, you know, fiddle with statistics
and the way to do that to show that, to
make the argument that there is not bias in policing, well,
they just arrest fewer certain types of people to fiddle
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with the numbers. But then another one that she's introducing
is the Pause for Safety Act, which would require a
one week waiting period before a buyer can receive a gun.
So you talk about the natural situation. It seems to
me like that person had very clear intent. They wrote
the manifesto, she targeted. It appears that she targeted certain people.
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Is a one week waiting period going to stop someone
like that? That's what I think is. It's this is
the disingenuous part about these laws. It's just to put
it out there. It's a campaign. It's just a campaign slogan,
I'm going to be tough on guns when this wouldn't
have done anything to stop but what happened in Nashville,
This wouldn't have done anything to stop what happened at MSU.
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Maybe there are crimes of passion that this would slow down,
But worked she's coming out here and she has campaigning
on the fact that she's going to keep kids safe.
That has been her thing over and over again. I'm
going to keep kids safe. But we look at Nashville
and I'm mad about this because this is just too
close to home for every parent in the country. You
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see the story of the nine year old who went
to pull the fire alarm because she's so desperate to
save her classmates and she gets shot. It's enough enough
with the Bologny gun violence is a problem. We've got
a violence problem in this country. This is a violence
problem that has been egged on by politicians like Alyssa
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Slotkin who have said, you know, weak on crime. Come on,
keep this soft on crime politicians out there and these
prosecutors and let's continue to you know, fall at the
feet of the soft on crime prosecutors. Meanwhile, our kids
are in these schools with zero protection whatsoever, and nobody
wants to talk about protecting the kids in the school
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because we'd rather say, well, we can put money into theories,
we can make sure that we have moral laws on
the books. We can attack our political enemy, which is
guns and Republicans, But at the end of the day,
this is not doing anything when you've had all these
companies come forward and say, we've got the technology to
make sure we have the doors lock to make sure
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that we stop the bullets from flying. And I hate
to say that, but we have got to get serious
about making sure that once somebody is in that school,
they are secluded from those kids and the kids are protected.
And we never talk about that, and it makes me sick. Well.
And maybe the most ridiculous aspect of what she is
coming up with is she wants to give two hundred
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and fifty million dollars to the CDC to research ending
gun violence. So think about this. Instead of saying, maybe
we should harden our schools, maybe we should make sure
kids are actually safe because we know, maybe we don't
know what the mental problems are what drives someone to
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shoot nine year olds, maybe we don't understand that, but
we know what they're doing and we know simple steps
to stop that from happening, and that is to protect
the school. So instead of spending money that way she
wants to spend, she wants to give two hundred and
fifty million dollars to the CDC. And when I read
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this sort of thing, I think, you know, this is
a perfect way to explain that they are. All they
want to do is just perpetuate the administrative state, and
so they're not interested in actually fixing the problem. She
wants to introduce bills like this, she wants to go
out and have a press conference, get a news story
like this, and nothing changes. Hire a bunch of people
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to research something that we've been dealing with for years.
I remember, so I was in college when Columbine happened.
It was a shock. It seemed like that was a
one time thing, like, how could this ever happen? How
could kids ever decide to go up and shoot up
their school. And honestly, I was talking to one of
my family members last night and I said, it's so
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shocking to me because it's something we never had to
think about as kids. And this week has been interesting
with my girls because I had one of my girls,
she's eleven, and I was putting her to bed the
other night and she went through this. I've never seen
my kids to go through this before, but she went
through this like crying fit, and she was like, I
don't want to lose you. I don't want to lose you.
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And I kept saying, wow, you're not going to lose me,
and she said, but I don't want to die. And
I think just what these kids have to go through
wondering if somebody is going to come in their classroom
and shoot them. It makes me sick because we did
we talk about the mental health issues, but this is
something we truly as kids, never even thought about. And
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then you think about it. I mean, I'm forty five.
Probably shouldn't say that because now now you know. But
I'm forty five. This happened when I was in college.
So you think about the number of years that this
has gone by with Columbine. Say, even if Columbine, okay,
if we thought that was going to be a one
off Sandy Hook, how long ago was that twelve years
ago that Sandy Hook happened. And we've seen this time
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and time again, and you have the Democrats saying this
is uniquely American, and you have the Republicans out there saying, well,
we've got to protect the Second Amendment rights. Forget about
how what is used. Can't you can't figure out who's
going to do this. I mean there are times when
we say, gosh, it was so obvious, but hindsight is
twenty twenty. I mean even this one. There was even
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the Nashville shooter send a message to someone on Instagram.
She sent, she followed them, went to the police station,
called it an emergency hotline, said I got this DM
that I think is pretty suspicious, and they still couldn't
get there in time to stop this person from doing this.
So mental health is a real issue. Are we going
to be able to stop everyone? No, there's going to
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be people that are going to do bad things and
try to get into a school where they know there's
nothing that will be used against them, there's no weapon.
There was a story that I heard a couple of
days ago where they're saying now that they think the
reason she chose the Christian school may have been because
there was no security, and maybe that's a way of
making all it was an anti Christian, but it was
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no security. But regardless, if you know that they're there's
nothing to protect the children there, that's going to be
a target. You are a soft target. And I am
sick and tired of my kids going into school every
day and me worrying about what's going to happen when
I know that The point of me saying this happened
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so many years ago is that I know tech companies
have been working on this. I know Dad's like Andrew
Pollock have been working on this, and they've come up
with all of these technologies that can be used to
identify a gunshot, to sound an alarm, to lock the doors,
to make sure our schools are safe. And we're talking
about putting two hundred and fifty million dollars into more research,
just more eggheads to sit around and talk about gun violence.
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What we need is people to actually go there and
do something about these schools well. And at what point
our school leaders, especially private schools where they have more
decision making power as opposed to a school board. But
at what point is our private school is going to
say this, We're going to use this as a selling
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point where we believe in school safety and this is
what we're doing to secure our school. We're locking the
doors where you know, we have armed personnel, all of
these sorts of things, and used it as an asset
because there are so many school districts that absolutely refuse
to do this, and I think what they're really doing
is caving to the teachers union because they are anti gunner.
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And at one point are schools finally going to say,
here's what we're doing. Come to our school because we
are going to keep your kids safe. Now, I think
that that is a terrible indictment of society and where
we are today. But at what point are they going
to do that? Well? I think that's the problem. When
you're in the political world, you have to be on
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one side or the other and you can't really have
the human discussion of the sucks. I mean it sucks.
I hate it. I hate the fact that there are
people that go into our schools. I don't know what
kind of a psycho, disgusting human being decides to go
and shoot children. To kill anyone, but to kill children
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is the most vile thing I can imagine, and I
think it's just devastating for you devastate so many lives.
Then you have this community of people that are against
anybody that was related to the person who went in
and did it. I mean, the whole thing is just
a breakdown, and yeah, where we are? Where are we
in society that this is happening. And honestly, I think
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all of us are asking right now, where are we
in society that we have accepted violence to the level
that we have. And so when I hear politicians who
come out like Alyssa Slakin who is clearly just focused
on her Senate campaign and wanting to win that Senate
campaign and using the blood of our children to get there,
which I think is disgusting. But also I mean, look
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at Kamala Harris going out there and saying keep fighting,
keep going out on the streets, keep raging against the machine.
You know, they have called on for violence multiple times
and then they go why is there violence? But see
they separate it from violence and gun violence, because if
you're a Democrat and you can say gun violence is
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the problem, then you can take the human element out
of it, and you can continue to keep people in
a situation where they're anxious, where they have mental issues,
where they have financial issues, and all of those things
lead to a violent society. And then you tell them
rage against all of these things that are wrong with you,
and what a shock. Guns are used well, and let's
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talk about how politicians weaponize these sorts of attacks. One
of the things that I've been doing on the website
is I like to highlight highlight politics, obviously, things going
on in culture, things going on in schools, and crime,
because some crimes that you know, you read about are
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just so bizarre. I mean, there was one I linked
to one last week about how these two bank robbers
wrote their note on the back of a past dub
with all of their information on it. That's an interesting
individual that doesn't realize that went award. But one of
the things that I just find so bizarre is there
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are terrible crimes that occur basically every single day in
the city of Detroit. Kids being killed, multiple people being
killed at the same time, you know, drive buys, whatever
it is, and Alyssa Slotkin says nothing. Let's take a
quick commercial break. We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast.
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If you're wondering whether Alyssa Slotkin cares about kids and
cares about guns and cares about violence, and if this
is really at her core a problem for her, then
you would see her come out and talk about this.
When you for folks outside of Michigan, you all obviously
saw the Michigan State University school shooting where the guy
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came on campus and shot people. And this is just
you're aware this is in the seventeenth most violent city
in the country. So a lot of people don't understand.
Michigan has become much more progressive. We have a lot
of sorrows funded prosecutors. These folks are letting people off.
We have four of the twenty most dangerous or most
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violent cities in the country. So where is the lista
Slotkin when these shootings happen two blocks over from Michigan
State And why the outrage and shock when you know
that you have allowed this city to become the seventeenth
most violent city in the country, and you've allowed these
prosecutors to say, we're not actually going to prosecute crimes,
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We're just going to keep letting people out. I just
heard a story a couple days ago about the US
Attorney and DC just not even prosecuting murders anymore, not
even prosecuting murders anymore. What and then they go vote
for me because I'm going to protect you from violence,
the violence that I'm actually promoting by not prosecuting the
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people that are committing violence. I mean, at what point
will Americans rise up and say we're done with this,
we want safety. Right. Well, I will say she is
rolling up her sleeves to take care of this. That's
a reference to her campaign launch video. She was at
a restaurant and she got a sandwich and she said
she had to roll up her sleeves to eat the sandwiches.
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It was sort of strange, roll up. Where do you
think these politicians are coming from? And why do you
think because during the campaign you had I thought they
were sensible ideas about, you know, trying to end this,
protecting schools, protecting students. But it doesn't seem like the
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people in office want to actually do anything about that.
So do you think this may be a very cynical
sort of take on it, But do you think that
they just simply they don't want to fix the problem
because it can just be something that they continue to campaign.
Of course, because they can shame the other side. They
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have effectively shamed the other side and it becomes a
great campaign issue. Look, when DeMar Hamlin had the problem
on the basketball court, everybody tweeted out, I'm praying for
him the football field. Sorry, when dear, let's do that
over and we'll cut that out Look, when DeMar Hamlin
had the problem on the football field and he went
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into cardiac arrest, you saw endless clubs come out there
and say we're praying for him. We saw celebrities come
out and say we're praying for him. This was totally
acceptable to say we're praying. I had. We had a
legislator in Michigan after the shooting that said, F your
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thoughts and prayers posted that came out. If you say
thoughts and prayers, screw you. You you're the problem. So
your faith is meaningless to us. You're actually the problem
because you're saying this. You know what, F your fake bills.
I mean, give me a break. The fact that you
think that you can go out and just campaign on
all of this that you have perpetuated. And look, like
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I said, both of us said, we don't like the
way society has gone and where society is right now.
This is obviously a problem. But at the end of
the day, somehow we don't have our banks robbed of
all the money. Somehow the jewelry stores don't end up
completely empty. I mean, I guess unless you're in San
Francisco or someplace where they've allowed this. But they've started
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to allow people to run into our stores, and people
are now outraged. Right, so now you see people saying,
we're leaving Portland, we're leaving San Francisco, We're not going
to keep our headquarters in Seattle anymore because they've started
to let people charge in and rip you off. But
for years, for over twenty years now, we've sat by,
we're people charge into our schools and we haven't said,
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where are the prosecutors that are stopping this from happening?
Where is the protection? Where are the doors that lock?
Where are the single issues where we can say, okay,
we can pinpoint what keeps kids safe, but no, we're
going to research it for five years. I mean, how
sick is this a lista slot can? You don't have kids,
so maybe you don't get it. But in five years,
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some of my kids aren't in school anymore. So you're
not really doing me any favors with your BS five
year study of gun violence when we've had this violence
problem for years and years that is perpetuated by your side,
and then you tell us to shut up. Don't you
dare talk about your faith when something happens like this,
Don't you dare try to make these families feel better
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about the fact that our stupid policies allowed their kids
to die. So during the campaign, this was especially after Oxford,
this was an issue that you were really focusing on.
And I don't know you were talking about it, but
you I know you were talking more behind the scenes
about it. So talk a little bit about some of
the solutions that you found that you thought you thought
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would be interesting to try and implement. Well, I think
now Kyle's interviewing me switching. I think what people don't
understand is that when this happened at Parkland, the entire
state of Florida gathered around and said what can we do?
And they have implemented a lot at Parkland in Florida,
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at the schools in Florida, they have a safe Schools director.
They've really focused on this in the state. So then
this happens in Oxford. This happened in Oxford into Michigan,
and this was two years after the state Police came
out with a safe schools plan. To me, this is
significant because the state Police put together a very long
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and lengthy, comprehensive plan to keep our school safe before Oxford.
But as a reaction to Parkland, then Oxford happens, and
nobody says, because you know, the media is in the
bag Forggretson. And that's just the truth. This is why,
really you've created the Midwesterner to try to show what's
truly happening in the state of Michigan. So the news
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doesn't say, you know, man, if Gretchen Widmer had taken
Oxford seriously that or are taken Parkland seriously, then Oxford
may not have happened because she had the tools. And
so we campaigned on the fact that we were going
to go through the safe School's plan, make sure we
implement the hardening n of schools, make sure we have
protection on campus. Forget about this idea that we're going
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to have our kids in a gun free zone, sitting
dock zone as I call it, because we can have
protection on our school campuses like most campuses do in
Florida now, but not in Michigan. And so when I
hear folks like Alissa Slotkinny and Gretchen Witmer get up
at oh, you know, I'm so heartbroken over this. You're
part of the problem. You knew this was happening. They
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didn't do anything. She didn't do anything after Oxford. She
didn't do anything after our campaign. When I hold her
out for not doing anything after Oxford and then she
comes out and blames Republicans from Michigan State, I mean,
give me a break. On top of that, not only
are we in a situation where they're not doing anything,
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they're using this to their advantage to continue to hold
on to power. And notice that they actually know it
doesn't matter if you talk about shootings in Detroit. It
doesn't matter if you talk about shootings in Flint, it
doesn't matter if you talk about shootings in Lancing unless
they can identify with the people who died, Which is
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pretty twisted because that should tell you everything you need
to know about these Democrat politicians who when the crisis
is something that ida the majority of the country can
identify with, they care. That's when they care. It's sick
and it again I go back to it seems to me,
I come out of the school choice movement and all
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you know, so I have experience with all kinds of
different school choice options, but it seems to me like
there's a major selling point that private schools can create
by saying, give us your child and we will keep
them safe because these are the things that we're going
to do. The government school is not going to do that.
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The teachers union runs the show and they hate guns,
and they would prefer to have kids sitting in sitting
duck zones than actually keeping them safe. And so it
seems to me like schools, this should be the direction
that schools should be going. And again it's an indictment
on society, but it's a reality that sick people are targeting.
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Mean in a blue state, what does that mean in
a state like ours? Because there's no school choice. They've
made it clear there's never going to be school choice
as long as they have powers. So you're going to
end up with families that can afford private school in
these sitting duck zones. And we know that we've heard
that these are researched. The waiting period is bs because
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this is researched. She had maps, she had a manifesto.
This person knew what she was doing, she had a plan.
The waiting period didn't matter. The researching this, I mean,
we're going to wait another five years to research this.
How many more kids have to die for Alyssa Slotkin
to put money into protecting kids actually, instead of it
put money into the bureaucracy and the legislative state and
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creating more committees. I mean, give me a break. Again.
When a parent goes up and talks about this, maybe
they'll understand. But Alyssa Slotkin is simply trying to get
your vote. So don't be deceived by the BS. We're
going to take five years and suddenly put fifty million
dollars into people's lives. It just makes me crazy because
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I cannot stand the thought of my kids growing up
in a world where we're so busy fighting over who's
going to get elected that we continue to let this
slaughter happen. And that school's safety, keeping kids safe has
turned into such a political issue. And I get, it's
a government school. So you've got a school board which
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is elected, and you know those are politicians, and you've
got the state involved and the FEDS involved, And I
think a lot of times people don't fully appreciate the
fact that that is a government entity. It's a political body.
But this has really turned into a political issue. And
as you said earlier, we keep banks safe, we keep
other institutions safe, but yet we refuse, we refuse to
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make schools safe, and we refuse to not have them
be gun free zones. And to be fair, I'm mad
about this with Alissa Slatkin because I think that this
is a campaign issue. But on the flip side, Republicans
aren't coming up and saying, you know what, let's put
the money into keeping schools safe. They're just not doing this.
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This is total bologny because on both sides you've got
Democrats using this to get elected. You've got Republicans saying, oh,
we've got to defend guns, and so we're not going
to talk about protecting kids. Take guns out of this
equation and figure out how to protect kids. We've got
to stop looking at this as there's only one answer here.
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It's got to be surrounding the weapon. There's children, protect
the children. Think of that issue. Let's start looking at
it that way. That's my thoughts on this. Thank you
so much for coming on and letting me complain about this,
and thank you all for listening, because I know I'm
very passionate about this. I've got two nine year olds
at home. This past shooting it in Nashville is devastating
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to me, and I am at the point now where
I'm just saying I'm just going to keep saying it.
When are you going to protect our kids? So thank
you for listening to me rant about this issue today.
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Hey, this is Buck Sexon and you're listening to the
Tunor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Drivers and Buck
Sexton podcast Network. Hello and welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
I'm Tutor Dixon, and I'm excited to have you joined
me today. Today I get to have somebody actually here
with me. My guest has been breaking a lot of
news in Michigan and he's currently following the Senate campaign
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of Alyssa Slotkin, which is why I wanted to have
him here today because I have a lot to say
about this. I'm sort of fired up anyway. Kyle Olson,
the founder of The Midwesterner, right here with me. Thanks
for being on. Thanks for having me absolutely so. The
reason I'm fired up about this is because we've gone
through two school shootings now, just in the past few weeks.
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We've had the one in Nashville, the one at Michigan State.
Alyssa Slotkin is using this as her campaign mechanism. Now
she's running on really she's running on the deaths of
our children, and I think it's disgusting. I think that
this is not a political issue. I think nothing is
done about it because there are two different political sides
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to this issue when there's really an answer down the
middle that we're not even looking at because politicians get
in the way, quite frankly, and not in a good way.
So tell us what Elissa's doing now. Yeah, it's really
interesting to see how Elissa Slotkin has really sort of
been pushed to the front. I noticed this when I
have been working on the site and posting stories. I
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noticed this first when remember when the balloon was shot
down over Michigan. Well, she's a military expert. I don't
know if you know, yes, and so she is all
of a sudden was in front of the cameras talking
about her CIA experience and all of that, and I thought, oh,
that's that's kind of a strange thing because it's not
her district. She's not. It just didn't make any sense.
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So then when the MSU shooting happened, she immediately again
was right out front. And what was interesting to me was,
again as I was posting these stories, there was a
story last week about how she basically is trying to
make gun control a centerpiece of her campaign, and she's
campaigning on this whole idea of creating more gun laws,
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and so there was a Detroit News story from March
twenty March twenty first, and it started like this. Elyssa
a US representative, Elyssa Slotkin was leaving an event in
Oakland County last month when the Lansing Democrat got word
of an active shooter on the campus of Michigan State University.
She put her foot on the gas and drove ninety
miles an hour on Interstate sixty nine to East Lansing
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set up setting up a mobile office of sorts in
the basement of the police department, where the mayor was
also stationed a mobile campaign office. I mean, let's be
honest about this. This is what she did. She drove there,
and she says, I'm gonna I'm gonna fight this. But
the bizarre thing about this is that one of these
bills that she's going to be introducing is exactly what's
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on the books here in Michigan. Had it been followed
in Michigan, this likely would not have happened at MSU.
So it's all just bologna. They can say, your thoughts
and prayers mean nothing, your fake bills mean nothing else.
So that's interesting because there was just last week on Wednesday,
she did a press conference, of course, because that's what
politicians love to do, where she introduced a couple of
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different bills where she claims this is going to help
solve the problem. And so what she is basically proposing
a couple of things. She's proposing the No Crime Left
Behind Act, which would prohibit transfer of a gun for
three years to someone after they were convicted of a
misdemeanor during which they carried or possessed a gun. So
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you think about that and what I mean, what as
you have looked at these other stories, what difference do
you think that is going to make? But only it
only makes a difference, first of all, if it is
actually enforced. That was the law here. So this guy
that goes on MSU's campus, he was convicted of a
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crime with a gun. It was he got to plead
down to a misdemeanor. So if they had actually prosecuted
this crime, he would not have been able to buy
a gun, which he did buy a gun and then
he went on the MSU campus. So they come out
with these bologny laws that they say are going to
do something when laws like this are already on the books.
But the funny thing about democrats is then they don't
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want to enforce those laws because that would be what
I don't know, bias in some way if you enforce
these laws. Well, well that's a whole an other subject
where they are trying to, you know, fiddle with statistics
and the way to do that to show that, to
make the argument that there is not bias in policing, well,
they just arrest fewer certain types of people to fiddle
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with the numbers. But then another one that she's introducing
is the Pause for Safety Act, which would require a
one week waiting period before a buyer can receive a gun.
So you talk about the natural situation. It seems to
me like that person had very clear intent. They wrote
the manifesto, she targeted. It appears that she targeted certain people.
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Is a one week waiting period going to stop someone
like that? That's what I think is. It's this is
the disingenuous part about these laws. It's just to put
it out there. It's a campaign. It's just a campaign slogan,
I'm going to be tough on guns when this wouldn't
have done anything to stop but what happened in Nashville,
This wouldn't have done anything to stop what happened at MSU.
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Maybe there are crimes of passion that this would slow down,
But worked she's coming out here and she has campaigning
on the fact that she's going to keep kids safe.
That has been her thing over and over again. I'm
going to keep kids safe. But we look at Nashville
and I'm mad about this because this is just too
close to home for every parent in the country. You
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see the story of the nine year old who went
to pull the fire alarm because she's so desperate to
save her classmates and she gets shot. It's enough enough
with the Bologny gun violence is a problem. We've got
a violence problem in this country. This is a violence
problem that has been egged on by politicians like Alyssa
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Slotkin who have said, you know, weak on crime. Come on,
keep this soft on crime politicians out there and these
prosecutors and let's continue to you know, fall at the
feet of the soft on crime prosecutors. Meanwhile, our kids
are in these schools with zero protection whatsoever, and nobody
wants to talk about protecting the kids in the school
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because we'd rather say, well, we can put money into theories,
we can make sure that we have moral laws on
the books. We can attack our political enemy, which is
guns and Republicans, But at the end of the day,
this is not doing anything when you've had all these
companies come forward and say, we've got the technology to
make sure we have the doors lock to make sure
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that we stop the bullets from flying. And I hate
to say that, but we have got to get serious
about making sure that once somebody is in that school,
they are secluded from those kids and the kids are protected.
And we never talk about that, and it makes me sick. Well.
And maybe the most ridiculous aspect of what she is
coming up with is she wants to give two hundred
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and fifty million dollars to the CDC to research ending
gun violence. So think about this. Instead of saying, maybe
we should harden our schools, maybe we should make sure
kids are actually safe because we know, maybe we don't
know what the mental problems are what drives someone to
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shoot nine year olds, maybe we don't understand that, but
we know what they're doing and we know simple steps
to stop that from happening, and that is to protect
the school. So instead of spending money that way she
wants to spend, she wants to give two hundred and
fifty million dollars to the CDC. And when I read
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this sort of thing, I think, you know, this is
a perfect way to explain that they are. All they
want to do is just perpetuate the administrative state, and
so they're not interested in actually fixing the problem. She
wants to introduce bills like this, she wants to go
out and have a press conference, get a news story
like this, and nothing changes. Hire a bunch of people
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to research something that we've been dealing with for years.
I remember, so I was in college when Columbine happened.
It was a shock. It seemed like that was a
one time thing, like, how could this ever happen? How
could kids ever decide to go up and shoot up
their school. And honestly, I was talking to one of
my family members last night and I said, it's so
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shocking to me because it's something we never had to
think about as kids. And this week has been interesting
with my girls because I had one of my girls,
she's eleven, and I was putting her to bed the
other night and she went through this. I've never seen
my kids to go through this before, but she went
through this like crying fit, and she was like, I
don't want to lose you. I don't want to lose you.
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And I kept saying, wow, you're not going to lose me,
and she said, but I don't want to die. And
I think just what these kids have to go through
wondering if somebody is going to come in their classroom
and shoot them. It makes me sick because we did
we talk about the mental health issues, but this is
something we truly as kids, never even thought about. And
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then you think about it. I mean, I'm forty five.
Probably shouldn't say that because now now you know. But
I'm forty five. This happened when I was in college.
So you think about the number of years that this
has gone by with Columbine. Say, even if Columbine, okay,
if we thought that was going to be a one
off Sandy Hook, how long ago was that twelve years
ago that Sandy Hook happened. And we've seen this time
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and time again, and you have the Democrats saying this
is uniquely American, and you have the Republicans out there saying, well,
we've got to protect the Second Amendment rights. Forget about
how what is used. Can't you can't figure out who's
going to do this. I mean there are times when
we say, gosh, it was so obvious, but hindsight is
twenty twenty. I mean even this one. There was even
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the Nashville shooter send a message to someone on Instagram.
She sent, she followed them, went to the police station,
called it an emergency hotline, said I got this DM
that I think is pretty suspicious, and they still couldn't
get there in time to stop this person from doing this.
So mental health is a real issue. Are we going
to be able to stop everyone? No, there's going to
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be people that are going to do bad things and
try to get into a school where they know there's
nothing that will be used against them, there's no weapon.
There was a story that I heard a couple of
days ago where they're saying now that they think the
reason she chose the Christian school may have been because
there was no security, and maybe that's a way of
making all it was an anti Christian, but it was
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no security. But regardless, if you know that they're there's
nothing to protect the children there, that's going to be
a target. You are a soft target. And I am
sick and tired of my kids going into school every
day and me worrying about what's going to happen when
I know that The point of me saying this happened
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so many years ago is that I know tech companies
have been working on this. I know Dad's like Andrew
Pollock have been working on this, and they've come up
with all of these technologies that can be used to
identify a gunshot, to sound an alarm, to lock the doors,
to make sure our schools are safe. And we're talking
about putting two hundred and fifty million dollars into more research,
just more eggheads to sit around and talk about gun violence.
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What we need is people to actually go there and
do something about these schools well. And at what point
our school leaders, especially private schools where they have more
decision making power as opposed to a school board. But
at what point is our private school is going to
say this, We're going to use this as a selling
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point where we believe in school safety and this is
what we're doing to secure our school. We're locking the
doors where you know, we have armed personnel, all of
these sorts of things, and used it as an asset
because there are so many school districts that absolutely refuse
to do this, and I think what they're really doing
is caving to the teachers union because they are anti gunner.
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And at one point are schools finally going to say,
here's what we're doing. Come to our school because we
are going to keep your kids safe. Now, I think
that that is a terrible indictment of society and where
we are today. But at what point are they going
to do that? Well? I think that's the problem. When
you're in the political world, you have to be on
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one side or the other and you can't really have
the human discussion of the sucks. I mean it sucks.
I hate it. I hate the fact that there are
people that go into our schools. I don't know what
kind of a psycho, disgusting human being decides to go
and shoot children. To kill anyone, but to kill children
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is the most vile thing I can imagine, and I
think it's just devastating for you devastate so many lives.
Then you have this community of people that are against
anybody that was related to the person who went in
and did it. I mean, the whole thing is just
a breakdown, and yeah, where we are? Where are we
in society that this is happening. And honestly, I think
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all of us are asking right now, where are we
in society that we have accepted violence to the level
that we have. And so when I hear politicians who
come out like Alyssa Slakin who is clearly just focused
on her Senate campaign and wanting to win that Senate
campaign and using the blood of our children to get there,
which I think is disgusting. But also I mean, look
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at Kamala Harris going out there and saying keep fighting,
keep going out on the streets, keep raging against the machine.
You know, they have called on for violence multiple times
and then they go why is there violence? But see
they separate it from violence and gun violence, because if
you're a Democrat and you can say gun violence is
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the problem, then you can take the human element out
of it, and you can continue to keep people in
a situation where they're anxious, where they have mental issues,
where they have financial issues, and all of those things
lead to a violent society. And then you tell them
rage against all of these things that are wrong with you,
and what a shock. Guns are used well, and let's
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talk about how politicians weaponize these sorts of attacks. One
of the things that I've been doing on the website
is I like to highlight highlight politics, obviously, things going
on in culture, things going on in schools, and crime,
because some crimes that you know, you read about are
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just so bizarre. I mean, there was one I linked
to one last week about how these two bank robbers
wrote their note on the back of a past dub
with all of their information on it. That's an interesting
individual that doesn't realize that went award. But one of
the things that I just find so bizarre is there
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are terrible crimes that occur basically every single day in
the city of Detroit. Kids being killed, multiple people being
killed at the same time, you know, drive buys, whatever
it is, and Alyssa Slotkin says nothing. Let's take a
quick commercial break. We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast.
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If you're wondering whether Alyssa Slotkin cares about kids and
cares about guns and cares about violence, and if this
is really at her core a problem for her, then
you would see her come out and talk about this.
When you for folks outside of Michigan, you all obviously
saw the Michigan State University school shooting where the guy
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came on campus and shot people. And this is just
you're aware this is in the seventeenth most violent city
in the country. So a lot of people don't understand.
Michigan has become much more progressive. We have a lot
of sorrows funded prosecutors. These folks are letting people off.
We have four of the twenty most dangerous or most
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violent cities in the country. So where is the lista
Slotkin when these shootings happen two blocks over from Michigan
State And why the outrage and shock when you know
that you have allowed this city to become the seventeenth
most violent city in the country, and you've allowed these
prosecutors to say, we're not actually going to prosecute crimes,
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We're just going to keep letting people out. I just
heard a story a couple days ago about the US
Attorney and DC just not even prosecuting murders anymore, not
even prosecuting murders anymore. What and then they go vote
for me because I'm going to protect you from violence,
the violence that I'm actually promoting by not prosecuting the
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people that are committing violence. I mean, at what point
will Americans rise up and say we're done with this,
we want safety. Right. Well, I will say she is
rolling up her sleeves to take care of this. That's
a reference to her campaign launch video. She was at
a restaurant and she got a sandwich and she said
she had to roll up her sleeves to eat the sandwiches.
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It was sort of strange, roll up. Where do you
think these politicians are coming from? And why do you
think because during the campaign you had I thought they
were sensible ideas about, you know, trying to end this,
protecting schools, protecting students. But it doesn't seem like the
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people in office want to actually do anything about that.
So do you think this may be a very cynical
sort of take on it, But do you think that
they just simply they don't want to fix the problem
because it can just be something that they continue to campaign.
Of course, because they can shame the other side. They
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have effectively shamed the other side and it becomes a
great campaign issue. Look, when DeMar Hamlin had the problem
on the basketball court, everybody tweeted out, I'm praying for
him the football field. Sorry, when dear, let's do that
over and we'll cut that out Look, when DeMar Hamlin
had the problem on the football field and he went
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into cardiac arrest, you saw endless clubs come out there
and say we're praying for him. We saw celebrities come
out and say we're praying for him. This was totally
acceptable to say we're praying. I had. We had a
legislator in Michigan after the shooting that said, F your
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thoughts and prayers posted that came out. If you say
thoughts and prayers, screw you. You you're the problem. So
your faith is meaningless to us. You're actually the problem
because you're saying this. You know what, F your fake bills.
I mean, give me a break. The fact that you
think that you can go out and just campaign on
all of this that you have perpetuated. And look, like
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I said, both of us said, we don't like the
way society has gone and where society is right now.
This is obviously a problem. But at the end of
the day, somehow we don't have our banks robbed of
all the money. Somehow the jewelry stores don't end up
completely empty. I mean, I guess unless you're in San
Francisco or someplace where they've allowed this. But they've started
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to allow people to run into our stores, and people
are now outraged. Right, so now you see people saying,
we're leaving Portland, we're leaving San Francisco, We're not going
to keep our headquarters in Seattle anymore because they've started
to let people charge in and rip you off. But
for years, for over twenty years now, we've sat by,
we're people charge into our schools and we haven't said,
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where are the prosecutors that are stopping this from happening?
Where is the protection? Where are the doors that lock?
Where are the single issues where we can say, okay,
we can pinpoint what keeps kids safe, but no, we're
going to research it for five years. I mean, how
sick is this a lista slot can? You don't have kids,
so maybe you don't get it. But in five years,
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some of my kids aren't in school anymore. So you're
not really doing me any favors with your BS five
year study of gun violence when we've had this violence
problem for years and years that is perpetuated by your side,
and then you tell us to shut up. Don't you
dare talk about your faith when something happens like this,
Don't you dare try to make these families feel better
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about the fact that our stupid policies allowed their kids
to die. So during the campaign, this was especially after Oxford,
this was an issue that you were really focusing on.
And I don't know you were talking about it, but
you I know you were talking more behind the scenes
about it. So talk a little bit about some of
the solutions that you found that you thought you thought
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would be interesting to try and implement. Well, I think
now Kyle's interviewing me switching. I think what people don't
understand is that when this happened at Parkland, the entire
state of Florida gathered around and said what can we do?
And they have implemented a lot at Parkland in Florida,
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at the schools in Florida, they have a safe Schools director.
They've really focused on this in the state. So then
this happens in Oxford. This happened in Oxford into Michigan,
and this was two years after the state Police came
out with a safe schools plan. To me, this is
significant because the state Police put together a very long
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and lengthy, comprehensive plan to keep our school safe before Oxford.
But as a reaction to Parkland, then Oxford happens, and
nobody says, because you know, the media is in the
bag Forggretson. And that's just the truth. This is why,
really you've created the Midwesterner to try to show what's
truly happening in the state of Michigan. So the news
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doesn't say, you know, man, if Gretchen Widmer had taken
Oxford seriously that or are taken Parkland seriously, then Oxford
may not have happened because she had the tools. And
so we campaigned on the fact that we were going
to go through the safe School's plan, make sure we
implement the hardening n of schools, make sure we have
protection on campus. Forget about this idea that we're going
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to have our kids in a gun free zone, sitting
dock zone as I call it, because we can have
protection on our school campuses like most campuses do in
Florida now, but not in Michigan. And so when I
hear folks like Alissa Slotkinny and Gretchen Witmer get up
at oh, you know, I'm so heartbroken over this. You're
part of the problem. You knew this was happening. They
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didn't do anything. She didn't do anything after Oxford. She
didn't do anything after our campaign. When I hold her
out for not doing anything after Oxford and then she
comes out and blames Republicans from Michigan State, I mean,
give me a break. On top of that, not only
are we in a situation where they're not doing anything,
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they're using this to their advantage to continue to hold
on to power. And notice that they actually know it
doesn't matter if you talk about shootings in Detroit. It
doesn't matter if you talk about shootings in Flint, it
doesn't matter if you talk about shootings in Lancing unless
they can identify with the people who died, Which is
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pretty twisted because that should tell you everything you need
to know about these Democrat politicians who when the crisis
is something that ida the majority of the country can
identify with, they care. That's when they care. It's sick
and it again I go back to it seems to me,
I come out of the school choice movement and all
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you know, so I have experience with all kinds of
different school choice options, but it seems to me like
there's a major selling point that private schools can create
by saying, give us your child and we will keep
them safe because these are the things that we're going
to do. The government school is not going to do that.
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The teachers union runs the show and they hate guns,
and they would prefer to have kids sitting in sitting
duck zones than actually keeping them safe. And so it
seems to me like schools, this should be the direction
that schools should be going. And again it's an indictment
on society, but it's a reality that sick people are targeting.
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Mean in a blue state, what does that mean in
a state like ours? Because there's no school choice. They've
made it clear there's never going to be school choice
as long as they have powers. So you're going to
end up with families that can afford private school in
these sitting duck zones. And we know that we've heard
that these are researched. The waiting period is bs because
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this is researched. She had maps, she had a manifesto.
This person knew what she was doing, she had a plan.
The waiting period didn't matter. The researching this, I mean,
we're going to wait another five years to research this.
How many more kids have to die for Alyssa Slotkin
to put money into protecting kids actually, instead of it
put money into the bureaucracy and the legislative state and
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creating more committees. I mean, give me a break. Again.
When a parent goes up and talks about this, maybe
they'll understand. But Alyssa Slotkin is simply trying to get
your vote. So don't be deceived by the BS. We're
going to take five years and suddenly put fifty million
dollars into people's lives. It just makes me crazy because
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I cannot stand the thought of my kids growing up
in a world where we're so busy fighting over who's
going to get elected that we continue to let this
slaughter happen. And that school's safety, keeping kids safe has
turned into such a political issue. And I get, it's
a government school. So you've got a school board which
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is elected, and you know those are politicians, and you've
got the state involved and the FEDS involved, And I
think a lot of times people don't fully appreciate the
fact that that is a government entity. It's a political body.
But this has really turned into a political issue. And
as you said earlier, we keep banks safe, we keep
other institutions safe, but yet we refuse, we refuse to
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make schools safe, and we refuse to not have them
be gun free zones. And to be fair, I'm mad
about this with Alissa Slatkin because I think that this
is a campaign issue. But on the flip side, Republicans
aren't coming up and saying, you know what, let's put
the money into keeping schools safe. They're just not doing this.
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This is total bologny because on both sides you've got
Democrats using this to get elected. You've got Republicans saying, oh,
we've got to defend guns, and so we're not going
to talk about protecting kids. Take guns out of this
equation and figure out how to protect kids. We've got
to stop looking at this as there's only one answer here.
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It's got to be surrounding the weapon. There's children, protect
the children. Think of that issue. Let's start looking at
it that way. That's my thoughts on this. Thank you
so much for coming on and letting me complain about this,
and thank you all for listening, because I know I'm
very passionate about this. I've got two nine year olds
at home. This past shooting it in Nashville is devastating
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to me, and I am at the point now where
I'm just saying I'm just going to keep saying it.
When are you going to protect our kids? So thank
you for listening to me rant about this issue today.
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