July 14, 2025 • 30 mins
In this episode, General Mike Flynn discusses his experiences with the deep state, the implications of Marxism in America, and the ongoing threats posed by Iran. He emphasizes the need for reform within the intelligence community and the importance of grassroots activism to combat political corruption. Flynn shares insights from his new book, 'Pardon the Innocence,' and calls for more leaders to step up and take action against the establishment. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Lieutenant General
Michael Flynn with me, as you probably know as a
combat veteran, and he has over thirty three years of
military experience in the United States Army. But he's also
out with a new book because you probably remember he
served as the Director of Defense Intelligence under President Obama
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and was National Security Security Advisor to President Trump and
then everything kind of hit the fan. So now he's
telling a story with pardon of innocent and inspiring story
of faith and freedom. Thank you so much for joining
me today.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Absolutely, Tudor, and thanks very much for having me. You
got and we first of all, we really appreciate your
tenask city and wanting to serve as a governor. And
I hope that you don't give that up. And I
always find people that Ibraham Lincoln he ran I think
seven races and lost all of them, and then the
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final race that he ran was president of the you know,
and of course change your course of US history probably
world history too, So you know, don't don't you don't
have it left in you?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that I've actually been counseled
that way several times. So that that may be still
in the cards for me. But right now I want
to talk about what you know about the deep state
because I think that's something Honestly, I'll tell you that's
something that I do worry about. Even in the state
of Michigan. There's so much that happens behind the scenes
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with the the I guess, for lack of a better term,
the bureaucracy in the state of Michigan. But you got
to see it on the national and international scale with
the Russian dossier and all of that. So kind of
break down for us, remind our viewers what happened and
what you ended up exposing because of that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, so so much to unpackage here. One of the
things that I would I would first of all, the
book is very timely partnered. In a sense, the book
is very timely because of this latest revelation from the
CIA that was basically an analytic judgment that came out
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of the CIA recently the last couple of days. That
actually there's things I list, uh you know in the
book that are actually stated almost for in this CIA
analytic judgment that John radd Wroote released, and one of
the things that we have learned and I flipped tooth
and nail during my h during my case which was
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eventually dismissed by the Department of Justice, which most people
think that I was convicted and I served person time
and none of this, none of that happened. That just
shows you the strength of the propaganda machine that the
mainstream media has. But what what we now, No.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I remember the free General Flynn memes and everything, because
and so yeah, we did. We did think that because.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The media, the media had an effect, you know, ultimate
media like yourself and many my others now didn't exist
in the twenty sixteenth and twenty seventeen timeframe the way
they exist now. So what we have learned is that
the CIA, under the likes of John Brennan, the FBI
under the likes of Jim Comey, they basically and then
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of course Jim Clapper, who is the Director of National Intelligence,
they all lied about about an analysis that was done,
and they did it for political purposes, in order to
destroy President Donald J. Trump and to undermine the presidency
of the United States of America. So those are not
like subtle things that I just said. Those are not
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you know, normal things that you would hear when we
talk about political hit jobs, so that the narrative assassination
against President Trump was very real and it is still ongoing.
I said the other day to her, because this help
has to do it the way this I laid this
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out in the book. I took people through sort of
wany and and my background, particularly my family and the
fact that they took on because when they took me on,
it took them on family as well. I come from
an I come from a family of nine brothers and sisters.
So so we we decided at a certain point in time,
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we're you know, enough is enough, and we're done with
with you know, you know, allowing them to defeat us.
And we said we're going to fight back. And so
we did. And I brought in a great lawyer by
the name of Sidney Powell. He might know, or your
audience might have heard of. She's erquick and uh, she
came in and and between her and I a couple
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of other people, you know, not this big law firm
that I had prior to Actually that law firm was
working with Mother Investigation to undermine my case. That's the
other part that we also exposed in the book. And
we also exposed that in a documentary that I did,
so I.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Think it's importan and to point out that you had
worked for the Obama administration and they so they knew
everything they needed to know about you, and then they
turned on you and used you as a way to
destroy Trump. It was like you were just disposable.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, well, I so people need to be reminded that
I was a rerecor Democrat. I didn't really care about
politics the whole time I was in the military and
voted for president in States because I also looked at
the president and no matter who it was, was going
to be my commander in chief. And I don't want
to say I voted for that guy. I voted for
that person, you know. I just wasn't like that. So
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I was a Democrat. Trump actually considered having me as
his writing mate in June, actually for a couple of months,
but in June of twenty twenty sixteen, it was myself
new congrios Chris Christy and Mike Pence, who were the
final four for vice president of the United States, and
Trump called me up, you know, a couple of nights,
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two nights before he went out to see Mike Pence.
He said hey, I'm not gonna take you as my VP.
Goes on on another another time. Maybe I would have
run as a Democrat, but it's not just it's not
going to work now. And I tell that story in
the book pretty in pretty good detail, the conversation that
we had, and uh, and it was fun. It was
a fun It's a fun part of the of the
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of the time times that I spent with Donald Trump.
And then you know, then I but I but I was.
I stayed with him the whole time. And when I
went into the White House as his National Security a visor,
I was a Democrat. So the Democratic machine looked at
me as some who turn danced them, you know, and
not only was a general, and we were in the
midst of wars, right, so I would have probably been
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a you know, my time as Nash Scurity advisor was
was cut short. But you know, there's you look at
the backgrounds of Nash Scurity busers over the history of
that position, going back to Tamry Kissinger, there are probably
maybe one other that has my background, and uh, you know,
having run one of the largest intel agencies in the world,
having served highest levels of our government, having served as
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an asstant Director of National Intelligence. So I mean I
had a pretty extensive background, a lot of combat experience,
fighters of combat experience. So I lay all that out
in the book. And and I was also against the
the Obama initiations narrative of the defeating of al Qaeda,
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which was a big deal. And also another part that
I was against while I was while I was a general,
while I was ahead of the Defense and Fellows Agency,
I was against the the Iranian nuclear uh that you
know books called j c POA right, the the Ranian
nuclear deal. At Obama won, I was one of the
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long voices in the of leadership said no, this is
bad idea.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Do you think that going against that had an effect
on the way he treated you, because it does seem
like there is this intense adverse into going after Iran
by this Democrat party, this new Democrat party. You've talked
about being a Kennedy Democrat. This is not the Kennedy Democrats.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, this is not a Kennedy Democrats. They hated Kennedy
so much that they killed them. And we now know
that that the.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
CIA they hate his nephew as well.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, and you know RFK and Bobby Bobby Kennedy now
on AJJFF. So, yeah, No, the CIA is a completely
out of control organization and I have said that, you know,
I mean John Ratcliffe needs to do massive, massive reform
at the CIA because that's kind of like what your
audience always asked for all audiences do. And I know
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that because I talked to many people around this country
and have been for years now. People want to know
what's next, what do we do? And I think Donald J. Trump,
as the president of the United States forty seven President says,
has a massive opportunity to have severe reform, particularly within
the United States Intelligence community, not just to you know,
(09:03):
eliminate the Office of the d and I where Tulsea
Gabbert is and I'm a big fan of Tulsa, but
also to reform, and I mean reform like not just
move some lines and blocks around on a card, but
I mean raise raised are a ze studies, agencies and
activities and maybe even department or two and eliminate them. Uh,
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you know, do we get rid of the CIA completely? Hey?
It was always an organization that was supposed to be
an analytic organization, meaning meaning to do good analysis on
the intelligence that was collected around the world, not an
operational arm to subvert countries and to subvert our own country,
which is what they have done. And let me throwing USA.
(09:48):
I d because I put something out for people that
want to find me on next. I put something out
this morning from a bright Part News article about us
AID for the last ten years. US idea is an
arm of the CIA. Always has been, we can't kid
ourselves anymore. So they UCIDE has been working with the
Wuhan labs in China for ten years, providing them viruses.
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And know where do those viruses come from? They come
from labs inside of the United States of America, some
cases from colleges and universities, other cases from labs that
the US government owns. D IA just so happened to
have one of those labs, and that's up at a
place called Fort Fiatric, Maryland. So these are things. A
lot of these things are things that I'm familiar with.
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So a long time ago, somebody said, Flinn knows where
the bodies are buried. That's exactly right. And that's a
metaphor for knowing what is good and what is bad
within the US intelligence system. And so you know where
am I today's people who wired to in the in
the in the administration. Well, you know, I'm actually up
in New York City right now to do a couple
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of things. But you know, we're working on corruption activities
and helping on some of the investor to be of
uhuh components that the that the government is involved in,
you know, And it's and it's sometimes it's better to
be working from the outside, hen because when you're inside,
you're sort of stuck in the narrative of the of
whatever the White House is doing, right and you know,
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and so it's so that's kind of where I'm at now,
you know, back to back to uh I think for you,
for you and for your audience, because I think where
we're at right now, and I know that people believe this,
I mean, but they just don't totally understand it. We're
in the middle of a Marxist revolution in the United
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States of America and it really started with Barack Obama.
You see it up in Michigan. I mean, oh my god,
I mean what you're yeah, absolutely, it's but.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You're seeing it in New York where you are right now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's unbelievable. And you know, I've got I know a
lot of people here, and I've been up here a
lot of times, and I know a lot of the dormant.
You always get to know the Norman and I know
a lot of them, and they they you know. And
I also know a lot of the police officers up here,
a lot of them. I just attend to the you know,
the funeral of my great friend Bernie Carrick, who was
the Commissioner of New York durned nine to eleven. I
was up here, you know, only a couple of weeks
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back for that, you know, tragedy, sadly, but you know everybody.
I mean, like one got one of the guys told me, yessay,
he's a relatively young guy. There's probably ten years younger.
N He says, yeah, I'm leaving. I'm leaving this the city,
I'm leaving the state. He goes, things are so bad
right now. And he said that they are really afraid
of this guy winning in New York City. And but
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he said, right, but even right now, it's it's bad.
So we're in the middle of this revolution and it's
very real. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's real.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But how I want to ask you about this because
I do think that people hear this and they're afraid.
They don't know how to fight back. You brought up Marxism,
and I've talked about this. If you look at mom
Donnie's background and you look at how Marx got involved
in this, it's it's similar. Marx was a middle upper
class He lived off of his parents' money. He was
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able to be a perpetual scholar. The only difference between
the two is that Mark's father didn't approve of his
teachings and his writings, whereas Mom Donnie's parents are all in.
They brought him here, I believe to do this, and
his rhetoric is as as many millions pep of people
were killed because of Karl Marx. His rhetoric already is
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way worse than what how Marx started out.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, it's you know, it's Marx. And then of course
you have the rise of Lenin, the rise of Stalin,
the rise of Trotsky, Trotsky, you know it. Ding In
right now started the Communist Party of America in the
late you know, like the teen eighteen, nineteen, nineteen and
twenty comrade, and here we are a little over one
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hundred years later, and the infiltration of what I call
fellow travelers of the Marxisc ideology are in spades in
our Congress, in our institutions of government, certainly the executive branch.
They're all over the judiciary. I mean, what we're seeing
that the real tragedy of the judiciary standing against constitutional
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issues where it has to you know, everything's got to
go to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court, you know,
generally turns over everything back to the Constitution. But they
do it because they're delaying. They're trying to delay this
president's ability to execute his agenda, you know. And so
this Marxist infiltration by principally by the Chinese. The Chinese
have been at this for a long time, for twenty
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twenty five years. And my concern now is that it
looks like Prime Minister g is on the rocks. And
I think that my guess is that he's on the
rocks because the pollt borrow. This means a lot to
your audience, It means a lot what I'm about to
tell you, to our country if they get rid of
the g My thinking is that there is an element
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within China that wants to be far more aggressive, and
they think that that they have the upper hand right
now against the United States of America and des fight
all of the tariffs, right. I mean, China has so
many their military is huge. There. There are space based platforms,
their hypersonic weapons systems, their their scale of their forces,
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of their military itself, where our military right now is
really not ready. We just you know, we're coming off
with two decades plus of fighting you know, guys in
shower shoes and basher of fighting terrorists on the in
the in the sands of Iraq and in Afghanistan and
elsewhere around the world. We're not We're not uh postured,
nor are we ready to fight a big conventional war.
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And that's why I want Trump. I don't want Trump
to send more weapons to Ukraine. I don't want them
to send more to send more you know stuff to
the Middle East. I want them to shut these wars down.
We have got to get out of that war in Europe.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So what is your opinion of what happened in Iran?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, well, I do think that I do think that
Trump absolutely set those separate Iranians nuclear ones program back decades,
no doubt about it. I'm very familiar with those targets.
I studied those targets quite a while they were being constructed,
for many years. I mean, I was one of my
other duties was the senior intelligence officer for US Central
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Command in Iran. Was our principal adversary when I was there.
So we watched the construction of all the nuclear facilities,
all the way to the to the base of that
of those of those ountains, to the places where they
built them, kinds of stuff brought in, the materials, the engineering.
So I know exactly what takes so does it. So
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did Trump and he decided to come. You know, isn't
any of those you know what we call the big
the big bomb.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Let me ask you. You were
in intelligence. You just said you saw it. You were
watching it years ago being built. At that time, you
had to have known that this was not for civilian measures,
This was not for power, This was not normal nuclear activities.
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This was four weapons.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Absolutely, and Barack Obama actually said it. Brock Obama actually
put them on a path to have a nuclear bomb.
Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, who
is one of the most anti American, most corrupt, probably
the single most corrupt president you've ever had in our history.
And that man is still around. He's still hanging around,
you know, Washington, d C undermining President Trump again the
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one the one other point, you know, and uh, it's
you know, for again for people that will listen to this,
because this will get a lot of listenership. That the
deep state that existed while Trump was the forty fifth
president was a stay behind force that Barack Obama put
in place. But then then he went through four years
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of hell with Russia Gate, Okay, so that that deep
state never was was removed. Then you had the fake
election in twenty twenty, and you had Uncle Joe as
the president for another four years. Well, what they did
was they cemented in far more abusive and subversive elements
of the deep state into the executive branch of the government. Actually,
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they made it bigger, and so Trump is now facing
a much larger deep state apparatus and a much more
aggressive deep state apparatus inside of the executive branch of
the government, never mind other parts of the country's institutions,
right education in such corporate world. So it's not better.
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This time, it's much worse, and Trump has a bigger
challenge because we are our debt is far it's vastly
worse than it was. The last administration allowed twenty million
illegals into our country. So the problems are much more.
They're monumental problems. So Trump, you know, he got his
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bill right, which is good. You know, I don't agree
with everything in it, but he got it. So now
we can kind of move certain things forward. But now
what Trump is going to have to do, He needs
to go on a tear against the deep state, against
the government, the unelected bureaucrats, particularly in the US intelligence community,
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specifically in the Central Intelligence Agency, because that's really where
the heart of the deep state exists.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do you think that's what will do you think that's
what we'll see with this new I mean, they've just
come out and said that the FBI is launching a
criminal investigation into John Brennan, who was the CIA director
and James Comey, who was the FBI director. Does do
those investigations allow them to kind of dig deeply into
those two agencies and start doing what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They have to, they have to, And so the fact
that they opened up this investigation and now we know
about it that you know, there's a there's a Joe
Rogan interview that Cash Befel did about a month or
so ago, not too long ago, and he kind of
been indicated that he sort of implied that there might
might be something going on. So they probably have enough evidence.
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And there's a there's a great article out today or
yesterday and it really dives in in deeply, you know,
a well done investigative journalism. Now that in this article
that dives deeply into the lies by Jim Comey, by
John Brennan and frankly by Jim Clapper, two commers. I mean,
there's a flat out lies under oath committing perjury. So
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there may be you know, what we may not see
is maybe the House Judiciary sent over uh you know,
contempt or or basically perjury charges over to the Department
Justices under the last administration. And now that he now
that we have sort of the A team in place,
now they're taken that and they're looking at that to
review it and conducting investigation. As I've also said, the
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first guy they are they are to bring is Jim Clapper.
Key Lapper knows he he did. He he knows he lied,
and he knows this whole you know the whole. Uh,
And I have it. You know, I have this document
right here. This is the report, the CIA report that
came out now with me, and they know that they
lied about this. And I would bring Jim Clapper in
for questioning now because I think Jim Clapper, if he
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felt pressure, he would he would give the goods up
on these guys. He does not want to go to
prison for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well, James Comy, I mean he briefed Trump on the
Steele dossier. From your perspective and the knowledge that you have,
and you've gone through the investigation and you were actually
offered a part in earlier and you said no, I
want the truth to come out. So you you had
more documents come out. And it turns out they had
this meeting, they called Trump in, they present the Steele dossier,
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knowing it's not true, knowing that Hillary Clinton is the
one with the Russia advantage. How does James Comy, how
does everybody in that room get away with this? And
I know that the president is protected over from executive protection,
but everybody else, how did they get away with this.
I mean even Hillary Clinton, she was involved.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's the city four thousand dollars question that they're American people,
I mean, one hundred percent want to happen. You're left
right and different. You know, people in this country know
that we have to have one rule of law for
you know, that's fair for all. And so they should
not be able to get away with this. And I
think that that's why what we're seeing is this new
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investigation that had now been you know, publicly stated. You know,
these guys guys all liked about the the the briefing
that Comy gave to Trump that was actually done and
I talk about this in the book in detail. That
was done on the sixth of January of twenty seventeen,
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well the day before, on the fifth, and I actually
set that entire briefing up and I can go through
all the people that were there, but you know the time,
I won't. But on the fifth of January in the
Oval Office with Barack Obama, would same group people have
showed up to brief Trump the next day in New
York City. They conspired during that meeting. I talk about
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this in the book as well. They conspired during that
meeting to basically number one, get yours truly, Okay, get
Flynn out of the way, and then then we can
get Trump. Because if Flynn is not out of way,
if Flynn is not taken out okay, of the nascary
advisor position, then there would have never been amer investigator period. Okay.
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They knew that I was coming to the because I
was very public about it. I was coming into the
nastary advisor position to refund the US Intelligence community and
to conduct some audits as well. I mean that the
CIA hasn't been has been doged yet, other other intell
acs haven't gone through the Doge effect with they do.
You know, I want people to know that the misintell
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community's budget is as much more than the Department of
Defense's budget.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. It just seems like there was
this major attack against Donald Trump the minute. I mean
you're talking about weeks before he gets inaugurated, so they
are going to him beforehand and saying heads up, we're
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gonna get you. I mean, this was not this was
not to share information. This was a warning, we will
take you down. Why was this Why Trump? Why didn't
this happen with Bush or or Bush before that, or Reagan?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Why? Because why was it so hard? Because they're all
compromised people. They're all compromised people. I mean it really are.
I mean, a compa is not a guy that owes
allegiance to anybody. I mean, for twenty sixteen, camp daily
and I saw him talking to big donors of the
GOP and he'd go, I don't your money, you go,
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I know you're here to check me out because but
I don't need your money for this race. I'm spending
my own can spend over one hundred million dollars of
his own money. I mean, this man has He could
have gone on and you know, played, you know the
serious tournament. Right is that good and and got a
great life like he's always said. And that's why we
have to stand behind Trump, because he gave up everything
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and he's been brutally abused. Why same year, I mean,
I spent you know, almost thirty four years of my
life in service to this country. Fuck those years in
direct combat operations overseas where life was at risk and
I could have gotten out. I'm going and gotten a
couple of boored jobs and had a great life, you know,
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and and and you know, worked on my last game
of golf. But you know, I saw what was having
and I clearly saw internal the in terms of the
Obama administration. And you know, there's a very famous picture
of me, Jim Clapper, John Brennan and Jim and Comy
justifying the cars, very factory bum go look it up
on the internet, those four individuals. And during that testimony,
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I was the only one that told the truth. And
when and when I told the truth, and this was
really about the rise or fall of ISIS, I was
the only one that that did not stick to the narrative,
the political narrative that the Obama administration wanted, because it
was a lie. It was a tottal Livee fabricated so
Obama could look like Keonis. All that right. And when
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I was asked under oath, because I'm under oath, when
I was asked publicly, I said, no, I said, it's
they're not it's a rise. Actually, it's all over the
it's all over the world, and we're we're we're part
of fomenting that. We you know, the United States of
America were part of foming to do that because it
helps at times organizations like the CIA undermine other countries.
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And that what we're learning, you know, from twenty twenteen
on is running that CIA has been working to under
in the United States of America. And that is in
the life of John Brennan. And John Brennan is not
because he's the director or you erect with this. John
Brennan is still in charge of the CIA. He still
still in charge of big, big blocks of the CIA.
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That's why the CIA needs to go through a massive,
massive reform.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Well, I absolutely agree. I appreciate what you're doing. I
want to just say as we go forward, when we're
watching this midterm is going to be challenging. We're going
to see if if the Democrats get control, we're going
to see the deep state go after him even more.
You are continuing to work to fight the deep state.
(27:35):
We appreciate that. Tell people what they're going to find
when they go when they when they read your book,
where they can get the book, but what they're going
to find to help them to also do what they
can do on the ground here.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
People can go to Amazon, it's a it's a you know,
in the top best sellers right now on Amazon. Fact there.
I was told yesterday that they're going a tough time
keeping it in stock, which is good. I mean, that's
a night, that's an odd that's a nice thing. You know.
You don't make it. I've written you don't make money
off of books. This is not about making money. This
is about getting the Chuir exposed. Then go to Amazon
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Partner of Innocence, or you can go to General Flynn
dot com and I have I'll get you a sign copying.
But what I tell people, tutor is that I use
the phrase local action, national impact, local action, and impact.
So it's just like you found in your in your
run for governor. You need to have people at the
grassroots level that they're working for you, that are going
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to you know, get out here and see a lot
of glitch don its, make a lot of RCTs, and
and just work hard at the local level to get
the right people leaders in our country elected. And we
have got to stop letting little hacks who have destroyed
this country and ask Republicans and Democrats. So we've got
to get leaders. We need to be looking for leaders.
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And so my call to arms you will for this
country is for more and more leaders to stand up
and say I'm going to run for office. And what
we're doing even if you have the money or wherewithal
and you don't win, and maybe you don't win, but
it's run. What we're doing is we're telling those people
that are in the political establishment that we're watching you
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and we're not going to let you get away with seymore.
We cannot allow arbentry to be destroyed them within. Abraham
Lincoln warned us. John Jay, one of our original founders,
wrote about it in Fegallest paper at number two and three.
Abraham Lincoln warned us when he was twenty eight years old, Well,
in a beautiful speech I called the lyceums. These people
can go look it up where he's about. Don't any
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way that word it is wrong suicide. It's it's an
incredible speech.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you've said the most dangerous threat is from within.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
From within. So anyway, Well, God bless you very much,
and you keep running, keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, thank you so much. We appreciate everything you do
and what you just said is so valuable to our listeners.
I've said to people, look at the swing states. In
the swing states, you have the radicals that are able
to get a foothold, but you have the opportunity in
a swing state to defeat them. So make sure you
go to the swing states and you work hard for
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the candidate that is going to be the best leader
you can have. And that's what you're saying. I appreciate
where what you're doing. I know you've been to Michigan.
I know you've helped us out here. So General Flynn,
thank you so much for coming on the podcast today.
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Lieutenant General
Michael Flynn with me, as you probably know as a
combat veteran, and he has over thirty three years of
military experience in the United States Army. But he's also
out with a new book because you probably remember he
served as the Director of Defense Intelligence under President Obama
(00:22):
and was National Security Security Advisor to President Trump and
then everything kind of hit the fan. So now he's
telling a story with pardon of innocent and inspiring story
of faith and freedom. Thank you so much for joining
me today.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Absolutely, Tudor, and thanks very much for having me. You
got and we first of all, we really appreciate your
tenask city and wanting to serve as a governor. And
I hope that you don't give that up. And I
always find people that Ibraham Lincoln he ran I think
seven races and lost all of them, and then the
(00:58):
final race that he ran was president of the you know,
and of course change your course of US history probably
world history too, So you know, don't don't you don't
have it left in you?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that I've actually been counseled
that way several times. So that that may be still
in the cards for me. But right now I want
to talk about what you know about the deep state
because I think that's something Honestly, I'll tell you that's
something that I do worry about. Even in the state
of Michigan. There's so much that happens behind the scenes
(01:31):
with the the I guess, for lack of a better term,
the bureaucracy in the state of Michigan. But you got
to see it on the national and international scale with
the Russian dossier and all of that. So kind of
break down for us, remind our viewers what happened and
what you ended up exposing because of that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, so so much to unpackage here. One of the
things that I would I would first of all, the
book is very timely partnered. In a sense, the book
is very timely because of this latest revelation from the
CIA that was basically an analytic judgment that came out
(02:11):
of the CIA recently the last couple of days. That
actually there's things I list, uh you know in the
book that are actually stated almost for in this CIA
analytic judgment that John radd Wroote released, and one of
the things that we have learned and I flipped tooth
and nail during my h during my case which was
(02:33):
eventually dismissed by the Department of Justice, which most people
think that I was convicted and I served person time
and none of this, none of that happened. That just
shows you the strength of the propaganda machine that the
mainstream media has. But what what we now, No.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I remember the free General Flynn memes and everything, because
and so yeah, we did. We did think that because.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The media, the media had an effect, you know, ultimate
media like yourself and many my others now didn't exist
in the twenty sixteenth and twenty seventeen timeframe the way
they exist now. So what we have learned is that
the CIA, under the likes of John Brennan, the FBI
under the likes of Jim Comey, they basically and then
(03:19):
of course Jim Clapper, who is the Director of National Intelligence,
they all lied about about an analysis that was done,
and they did it for political purposes, in order to
destroy President Donald J. Trump and to undermine the presidency
of the United States of America. So those are not
like subtle things that I just said. Those are not
(03:40):
you know, normal things that you would hear when we
talk about political hit jobs, so that the narrative assassination
against President Trump was very real and it is still ongoing.
I said the other day to her, because this help
has to do it the way this I laid this
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out in the book. I took people through sort of
wany and and my background, particularly my family and the
fact that they took on because when they took me on,
it took them on family as well. I come from
an I come from a family of nine brothers and sisters.
So so we we decided at a certain point in time,
(04:22):
we're you know, enough is enough, and we're done with
with you know, you know, allowing them to defeat us.
And we said we're going to fight back. And so
we did. And I brought in a great lawyer by
the name of Sidney Powell. He might know, or your
audience might have heard of. She's erquick and uh, she
came in and and between her and I a couple
(04:44):
of other people, you know, not this big law firm
that I had prior to Actually that law firm was
working with Mother Investigation to undermine my case. That's the
other part that we also exposed in the book. And
we also exposed that in a documentary that I did,
so I.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Think it's importan and to point out that you had
worked for the Obama administration and they so they knew
everything they needed to know about you, and then they
turned on you and used you as a way to
destroy Trump. It was like you were just disposable.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, well, I so people need to be reminded that
I was a rerecor Democrat. I didn't really care about
politics the whole time I was in the military and
voted for president in States because I also looked at
the president and no matter who it was, was going
to be my commander in chief. And I don't want
to say I voted for that guy. I voted for
that person, you know. I just wasn't like that. So
(05:36):
I was a Democrat. Trump actually considered having me as
his writing mate in June, actually for a couple of months,
but in June of twenty twenty sixteen, it was myself
new congrios Chris Christy and Mike Pence, who were the
final four for vice president of the United States, and
Trump called me up, you know, a couple of nights,
(05:57):
two nights before he went out to see Mike Pence.
He said hey, I'm not gonna take you as my VP.
Goes on on another another time. Maybe I would have
run as a Democrat, but it's not just it's not
going to work now. And I tell that story in
the book pretty in pretty good detail, the conversation that
we had, and uh, and it was fun. It was
a fun It's a fun part of the of the
(06:18):
of the time times that I spent with Donald Trump.
And then you know, then I but I but I was.
I stayed with him the whole time. And when I
went into the White House as his National Security a visor,
I was a Democrat. So the Democratic machine looked at
me as some who turn danced them, you know, and
not only was a general, and we were in the
midst of wars, right, so I would have probably been
(06:39):
a you know, my time as Nash Scurity advisor was
was cut short. But you know, there's you look at
the backgrounds of Nash Scurity busers over the history of
that position, going back to Tamry Kissinger, there are probably
maybe one other that has my background, and uh, you know,
having run one of the largest intel agencies in the world,
having served highest levels of our government, having served as
(07:03):
an asstant Director of National Intelligence. So I mean I
had a pretty extensive background, a lot of combat experience,
fighters of combat experience. So I lay all that out
in the book. And and I was also against the
the Obama initiations narrative of the defeating of al Qaeda,
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which was a big deal. And also another part that
I was against while I was while I was a general,
while I was ahead of the Defense and Fellows Agency,
I was against the the Iranian nuclear uh that you
know books called j c POA right, the the Ranian
nuclear deal. At Obama won, I was one of the
(07:44):
long voices in the of leadership said no, this is
bad idea.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Do you think that going against that had an effect
on the way he treated you, because it does seem
like there is this intense adverse into going after Iran
by this Democrat party, this new Democrat party. You've talked
about being a Kennedy Democrat. This is not the Kennedy Democrats.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, this is not a Kennedy Democrats. They hated Kennedy
so much that they killed them. And we now know
that that the.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
CIA they hate his nephew as well.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, and you know RFK and Bobby Bobby Kennedy now
on AJJFF. So, yeah, No, the CIA is a completely
out of control organization and I have said that, you know,
I mean John Ratcliffe needs to do massive, massive reform
at the CIA because that's kind of like what your
audience always asked for all audiences do. And I know
(08:39):
that because I talked to many people around this country
and have been for years now. People want to know
what's next, what do we do? And I think Donald J. Trump,
as the president of the United States forty seven President says,
has a massive opportunity to have severe reform, particularly within
the United States Intelligence community, not just to you know,
(09:03):
eliminate the Office of the d and I where Tulsea
Gabbert is and I'm a big fan of Tulsa, but
also to reform, and I mean reform like not just
move some lines and blocks around on a card, but
I mean raise raised are a ze studies, agencies and
activities and maybe even department or two and eliminate them. Uh,
(09:26):
you know, do we get rid of the CIA completely? Hey?
It was always an organization that was supposed to be
an analytic organization, meaning meaning to do good analysis on
the intelligence that was collected around the world, not an
operational arm to subvert countries and to subvert our own country,
which is what they have done. And let me throwing USA.
(09:48):
I d because I put something out for people that
want to find me on next. I put something out
this morning from a bright Part News article about us
AID for the last ten years. US idea is an
arm of the CIA. Always has been, we can't kid
ourselves anymore. So they UCIDE has been working with the
Wuhan labs in China for ten years, providing them viruses.
(10:12):
And know where do those viruses come from? They come
from labs inside of the United States of America, some
cases from colleges and universities, other cases from labs that
the US government owns. D IA just so happened to
have one of those labs, and that's up at a
place called Fort Fiatric, Maryland. So these are things. A
lot of these things are things that I'm familiar with.
(10:33):
So a long time ago, somebody said, Flinn knows where
the bodies are buried. That's exactly right. And that's a
metaphor for knowing what is good and what is bad
within the US intelligence system. And so you know where
am I today's people who wired to in the in
the in the administration. Well, you know, I'm actually up
in New York City right now to do a couple
(10:54):
of things. But you know, we're working on corruption activities
and helping on some of the investor to be of
uhuh components that the that the government is involved in,
you know, And it's and it's sometimes it's better to
be working from the outside, hen because when you're inside,
you're sort of stuck in the narrative of the of
whatever the White House is doing, right and you know,
(11:15):
and so it's so that's kind of where I'm at now,
you know, back to back to uh I think for you,
for you and for your audience, because I think where
we're at right now, and I know that people believe this,
I mean, but they just don't totally understand it. We're
in the middle of a Marxist revolution in the United
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States of America and it really started with Barack Obama.
You see it up in Michigan. I mean, oh my god,
I mean what you're yeah, absolutely, it's but.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You're seeing it in New York where you are right now.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's unbelievable. And you know, I've got I know a
lot of people here, and I've been up here a
lot of times, and I know a lot of the dormant.
You always get to know the Norman and I know
a lot of them, and they they you know. And
I also know a lot of the police officers up here,
a lot of them. I just attend to the you know,
the funeral of my great friend Bernie Carrick, who was
the Commissioner of New York durned nine to eleven. I
was up here, you know, only a couple of weeks
(12:06):
back for that, you know, tragedy, sadly, but you know everybody.
I mean, like one got one of the guys told me, yessay,
he's a relatively young guy. There's probably ten years younger.
N He says, yeah, I'm leaving. I'm leaving this the city,
I'm leaving the state. He goes, things are so bad
right now. And he said that they are really afraid
of this guy winning in New York City. And but
(12:28):
he said, right, but even right now, it's it's bad.
So we're in the middle of this revolution and it's
very real. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's real.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But how I want to ask you about this because
I do think that people hear this and they're afraid.
They don't know how to fight back. You brought up Marxism,
and I've talked about this. If you look at mom
Donnie's background and you look at how Marx got involved
in this, it's it's similar. Marx was a middle upper
class He lived off of his parents' money. He was
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able to be a perpetual scholar. The only difference between
the two is that Mark's father didn't approve of his
teachings and his writings, whereas Mom Donnie's parents are all in.
They brought him here, I believe to do this, and
his rhetoric is as as many millions pep of people
were killed because of Karl Marx. His rhetoric already is
(13:22):
way worse than what how Marx started out.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, it's you know, it's Marx. And then of course
you have the rise of Lenin, the rise of Stalin,
the rise of Trotsky, Trotsky, you know it. Ding In
right now started the Communist Party of America in the
late you know, like the teen eighteen, nineteen, nineteen and
twenty comrade, and here we are a little over one
(13:46):
hundred years later, and the infiltration of what I call
fellow travelers of the Marxisc ideology are in spades in
our Congress, in our institutions of government, certainly the executive branch.
They're all over the judiciary. I mean, what we're seeing
that the real tragedy of the judiciary standing against constitutional
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issues where it has to you know, everything's got to
go to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court, you know,
generally turns over everything back to the Constitution. But they
do it because they're delaying. They're trying to delay this
president's ability to execute his agenda, you know. And so
this Marxist infiltration by principally by the Chinese. The Chinese
have been at this for a long time, for twenty
(14:32):
twenty five years. And my concern now is that it
looks like Prime Minister g is on the rocks. And
I think that my guess is that he's on the
rocks because the pollt borrow. This means a lot to
your audience, It means a lot what I'm about to
tell you, to our country if they get rid of
the g My thinking is that there is an element
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within China that wants to be far more aggressive, and
they think that that they have the upper hand right
now against the United States of America and des fight
all of the tariffs, right. I mean, China has so
many their military is huge. There. There are space based platforms,
their hypersonic weapons systems, their their scale of their forces,
(15:17):
of their military itself, where our military right now is
really not ready. We just you know, we're coming off
with two decades plus of fighting you know, guys in
shower shoes and basher of fighting terrorists on the in
the in the sands of Iraq and in Afghanistan and
elsewhere around the world. We're not We're not uh postured,
nor are we ready to fight a big conventional war.
(15:39):
And that's why I want Trump. I don't want Trump
to send more weapons to Ukraine. I don't want them
to send more to send more you know stuff to
the Middle East. I want them to shut these wars down.
We have got to get out of that war in Europe.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So what is your opinion of what happened in Iran?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, well, I do think that I do think that
Trump absolutely set those separate Iranians nuclear ones program back decades,
no doubt about it. I'm very familiar with those targets.
I studied those targets quite a while they were being constructed,
for many years. I mean, I was one of my
other duties was the senior intelligence officer for US Central
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Command in Iran. Was our principal adversary when I was there.
So we watched the construction of all the nuclear facilities,
all the way to the to the base of that
of those of those ountains, to the places where they
built them, kinds of stuff brought in, the materials, the engineering.
So I know exactly what takes so does it. So
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did Trump and he decided to come. You know, isn't
any of those you know what we call the big
the big bomb.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. Let me ask you. You were
in intelligence. You just said you saw it. You were
watching it years ago being built. At that time, you
had to have known that this was not for civilian measures,
This was not for power, This was not normal nuclear activities.
(17:08):
This was four weapons.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Absolutely, and Barack Obama actually said it. Brock Obama actually
put them on a path to have a nuclear bomb.
Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, who
is one of the most anti American, most corrupt, probably
the single most corrupt president you've ever had in our history.
And that man is still around. He's still hanging around,
you know, Washington, d C undermining President Trump again the
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one the one other point, you know, and uh, it's
you know, for again for people that will listen to this,
because this will get a lot of listenership. That the
deep state that existed while Trump was the forty fifth
president was a stay behind force that Barack Obama put
in place. But then then he went through four years
(17:55):
of hell with Russia Gate, Okay, so that that deep
state never was was removed. Then you had the fake
election in twenty twenty, and you had Uncle Joe as
the president for another four years. Well, what they did
was they cemented in far more abusive and subversive elements
of the deep state into the executive branch of the government. Actually,
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they made it bigger, and so Trump is now facing
a much larger deep state apparatus and a much more
aggressive deep state apparatus inside of the executive branch of
the government, never mind other parts of the country's institutions,
right education in such corporate world. So it's not better.
(18:40):
This time, it's much worse, and Trump has a bigger
challenge because we are our debt is far it's vastly
worse than it was. The last administration allowed twenty million
illegals into our country. So the problems are much more.
They're monumental problems. So Trump, you know, he got his
(19:02):
bill right, which is good. You know, I don't agree
with everything in it, but he got it. So now
we can kind of move certain things forward. But now
what Trump is going to have to do, He needs
to go on a tear against the deep state, against
the government, the unelected bureaucrats, particularly in the US intelligence community,
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specifically in the Central Intelligence Agency, because that's really where
the heart of the deep state exists.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Do you think that's what will do you think that's
what we'll see with this new I mean, they've just
come out and said that the FBI is launching a
criminal investigation into John Brennan, who was the CIA director
and James Comey, who was the FBI director. Does do
those investigations allow them to kind of dig deeply into
those two agencies and start doing what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They have to, they have to, And so the fact
that they opened up this investigation and now we know
about it that you know, there's a there's a Joe
Rogan interview that Cash Befel did about a month or
so ago, not too long ago, and he kind of
been indicated that he sort of implied that there might
might be something going on. So they probably have enough evidence.
(20:14):
And there's a there's a great article out today or
yesterday and it really dives in in deeply, you know,
a well done investigative journalism. Now that in this article
that dives deeply into the lies by Jim Comey, by
John Brennan and frankly by Jim Clapper, two commers. I mean,
there's a flat out lies under oath committing perjury. So
(20:37):
there may be you know, what we may not see
is maybe the House Judiciary sent over uh you know,
contempt or or basically perjury charges over to the Department
Justices under the last administration. And now that he now
that we have sort of the A team in place,
now they're taken that and they're looking at that to
review it and conducting investigation. As I've also said, the
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first guy they are they are to bring is Jim Clapper.
Key Lapper knows he he did. He he knows he lied,
and he knows this whole you know the whole. Uh,
And I have it. You know, I have this document
right here. This is the report, the CIA report that
came out now with me, and they know that they
lied about this. And I would bring Jim Clapper in
for questioning now because I think Jim Clapper, if he
(21:23):
felt pressure, he would he would give the goods up
on these guys. He does not want to go to
prison for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Well, James Comy, I mean he briefed Trump on the
Steele dossier. From your perspective and the knowledge that you have,
and you've gone through the investigation and you were actually
offered a part in earlier and you said no, I
want the truth to come out. So you you had
more documents come out. And it turns out they had
this meeting, they called Trump in, they present the Steele dossier,
(21:51):
knowing it's not true, knowing that Hillary Clinton is the
one with the Russia advantage. How does James Comy, how
does everybody in that room get away with this? And
I know that the president is protected over from executive protection,
but everybody else, how did they get away with this.
I mean even Hillary Clinton, she was involved.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's the city four thousand dollars question that they're American people,
I mean, one hundred percent want to happen. You're left
right and different. You know, people in this country know
that we have to have one rule of law for
you know, that's fair for all. And so they should
not be able to get away with this. And I
think that that's why what we're seeing is this new
(22:33):
investigation that had now been you know, publicly stated. You know,
these guys guys all liked about the the the briefing
that Comy gave to Trump that was actually done and
I talk about this in the book in detail. That
was done on the sixth of January of twenty seventeen,
(22:55):
well the day before, on the fifth, and I actually
set that entire briefing up and I can go through
all the people that were there, but you know the time,
I won't. But on the fifth of January in the
Oval Office with Barack Obama, would same group people have
showed up to brief Trump the next day in New
York City. They conspired during that meeting. I talk about
(23:15):
this in the book as well. They conspired during that
meeting to basically number one, get yours truly, Okay, get
Flynn out of the way, and then then we can
get Trump. Because if Flynn is not out of way,
if Flynn is not taken out okay, of the nascary
advisor position, then there would have never been amer investigator period. Okay.
(23:37):
They knew that I was coming to the because I
was very public about it. I was coming into the
nastary advisor position to refund the US Intelligence community and
to conduct some audits as well. I mean that the
CIA hasn't been has been doged yet, other other intell
acs haven't gone through the Doge effect with they do.
You know, I want people to know that the misintell
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community's budget is as much more than the Department of
Defense's budget.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. It just seems like there was
this major attack against Donald Trump the minute. I mean
you're talking about weeks before he gets inaugurated, so they
are going to him beforehand and saying heads up, we're
(24:27):
gonna get you. I mean, this was not this was
not to share information. This was a warning, we will
take you down. Why was this Why Trump? Why didn't
this happen with Bush or or Bush before that, or Reagan?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Why? Because why was it so hard? Because they're all
compromised people. They're all compromised people. I mean it really are.
I mean, a compa is not a guy that owes
allegiance to anybody. I mean, for twenty sixteen, camp daily
and I saw him talking to big donors of the
GOP and he'd go, I don't your money, you go,
(25:01):
I know you're here to check me out because but
I don't need your money for this race. I'm spending
my own can spend over one hundred million dollars of
his own money. I mean, this man has He could
have gone on and you know, played, you know the
serious tournament. Right is that good and and got a
great life like he's always said. And that's why we
have to stand behind Trump, because he gave up everything
(25:22):
and he's been brutally abused. Why same year, I mean,
I spent you know, almost thirty four years of my
life in service to this country. Fuck those years in
direct combat operations overseas where life was at risk and
I could have gotten out. I'm going and gotten a
couple of boored jobs and had a great life, you know,
(25:43):
and and and you know, worked on my last game
of golf. But you know, I saw what was having
and I clearly saw internal the in terms of the
Obama administration. And you know, there's a very famous picture
of me, Jim Clapper, John Brennan and Jim and Comy
justifying the cars, very factory bum go look it up
on the internet, those four individuals. And during that testimony,
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I was the only one that told the truth. And
when and when I told the truth, and this was
really about the rise or fall of ISIS, I was
the only one that that did not stick to the narrative,
the political narrative that the Obama administration wanted, because it
was a lie. It was a tottal Livee fabricated so
Obama could look like Keonis. All that right. And when
(26:27):
I was asked under oath, because I'm under oath, when
I was asked publicly, I said, no, I said, it's
they're not it's a rise. Actually, it's all over the
it's all over the world, and we're we're we're part
of fomenting that. We you know, the United States of
America were part of foming to do that because it
helps at times organizations like the CIA undermine other countries.
(26:49):
And that what we're learning, you know, from twenty twenteen
on is running that CIA has been working to under
in the United States of America. And that is in
the life of John Brennan. And John Brennan is not
because he's the director or you erect with this. John
Brennan is still in charge of the CIA. He still
still in charge of big, big blocks of the CIA.
(27:10):
That's why the CIA needs to go through a massive,
massive reform.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Well, I absolutely agree. I appreciate what you're doing. I
want to just say as we go forward, when we're
watching this midterm is going to be challenging. We're going
to see if if the Democrats get control, we're going
to see the deep state go after him even more.
You are continuing to work to fight the deep state.
(27:35):
We appreciate that. Tell people what they're going to find
when they go when they when they read your book,
where they can get the book, but what they're going
to find to help them to also do what they
can do on the ground here.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
People can go to Amazon, it's a it's a you know,
in the top best sellers right now on Amazon. Fact there.
I was told yesterday that they're going a tough time
keeping it in stock, which is good. I mean, that's
a night, that's an odd that's a nice thing. You know.
You don't make it. I've written you don't make money
off of books. This is not about making money. This
is about getting the Chuir exposed. Then go to Amazon
(28:09):
Partner of Innocence, or you can go to General Flynn
dot com and I have I'll get you a sign copying.
But what I tell people, tutor is that I use
the phrase local action, national impact, local action, and impact.
So it's just like you found in your in your
run for governor. You need to have people at the
grassroots level that they're working for you, that are going
(28:31):
to you know, get out here and see a lot
of glitch don its, make a lot of RCTs, and
and just work hard at the local level to get
the right people leaders in our country elected. And we
have got to stop letting little hacks who have destroyed
this country and ask Republicans and Democrats. So we've got
to get leaders. We need to be looking for leaders.
(28:52):
And so my call to arms you will for this
country is for more and more leaders to stand up
and say I'm going to run for office. And what
we're doing even if you have the money or wherewithal
and you don't win, and maybe you don't win, but
it's run. What we're doing is we're telling those people
that are in the political establishment that we're watching you
(29:14):
and we're not going to let you get away with seymore.
We cannot allow arbentry to be destroyed them within. Abraham
Lincoln warned us. John Jay, one of our original founders,
wrote about it in Fegallest paper at number two and three.
Abraham Lincoln warned us when he was twenty eight years old, Well,
in a beautiful speech I called the lyceums. These people
can go look it up where he's about. Don't any
(29:35):
way that word it is wrong suicide. It's it's an
incredible speech.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you've said the most dangerous threat is from within.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
From within. So anyway, Well, God bless you very much,
and you keep running, keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, thank you so much. We appreciate everything you do
and what you just said is so valuable to our listeners.
I've said to people, look at the swing states. In
the swing states, you have the radicals that are able
to get a foothold, but you have the opportunity in
a swing state to defeat them. So make sure you
go to the swing states and you work hard for
(30:11):
the candidate that is going to be the best leader
you can have. And that's what you're saying. I appreciate
where what you're doing. I know you've been to Michigan.
I know you've helped us out here. So General Flynn,
thank you so much for coming on the podcast today.
God love see you, and thank you all for joining
us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others.
Go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app,
(30:32):
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