In this episode, Dr. Ann Shippy explores the powerful connection between gut health and fertility, revealing how the microbiome, environmental toxins, and nutrition influence hormonal balance and reproductive outcomes. Drawing from her personal journey with autoimmune disease, Dr. Shippy explains why both men and women should focus on preconception health and how targeted testing, supplements, and lifestyle changes can improve fertility and long-term wellness. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today, we have a guest that is going to tell
us all about our gut, which I'm excited about, and
how our gut not only affects our health, but also
you have probably noticed that many young couples have been
struggling to conceive in the last I would say, almost
like ten years now, and we've sort of wondered what
is it? Is it something, is it medication? Is it
(00:23):
something in the environment. And then I heard our guest
on a podcast and she was talking about all of
the pefosts that we are consuming on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You may have heard about these forever chemicals.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We hear about them a lot where I am because
we have a lot of manufacturers. I know our guest
today will talk about probably farming as well.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
If you live near a farm, you're also probably experiencing this.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But also I was shocked to hear it's even in
my cookwear and it's in the foods that I eat
and the.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Cans that I drink out of.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So, with no further ado, doctor Ann Shippy is here
with us to talk about are about internal medicine and
the environment that affects our gut every day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thank you so much for joining me, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And yes, the gut is the center of the universe
in my world because it's so important for really every
aspect of biology, from absorbing our nutrients that run everything,
to our microbiome, which are the organisms that help our
bodies to work better, to a huge part of our
immune system is located in the gut. So our gut
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is good, a lot of our bodies good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well. I love your story because you are someone who
experienced this yourself. You had an autoimmune disorder. You were
not a doctor at the time, which this I love
your story because you are driven and this is like
the ultimate driven. Because you were working at IBM and
you got sick, Doctors couldn't figure it out, You got better,
you got sick again, and you were like, I'm gonna
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go to med school. That's not a thing people don't
do that. You're special.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, I'm so fortunate because I think a lot of
times people do have life experiences that happen, but they're
and get inspired to make a change, but they're so
locked into their lives that they can't take eight years
off and go back to school.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, I mean, I'm amazed by it, but also what
you've been able to do, because, like I said, there
are so many things going on today in our bodies
that we don't understand why they're happening. I've had so
many young women that I've talked to who I think,
first of all, I'll say, we are pushing off having
kids till later.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So our audience is.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
People with children, and people with adult children, and people
probably also trying to conceive. But I would say that
when I talk to our audience, I think many of
them have children the age that are trying to conceive
right now, and or they're in their high school years,
and we're going, what do we need to be doing
to make sure they are ready to do that? And
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you have all these suggestions on for both men and women,
which I found fascinat on making sure that you've kind
of like cleared out these toxins from your body to
make sure your body's ready for this. But I'm listening
to you talk about this, and I'm thinking this also
pertains to everybody. Because I heard you talk about h pylori.
(03:15):
I want to get into that just really quickly, because
I recently met someone.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Who had no idea that she was experiencing this.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
She had a lot of acid reflux, had like a
situation where people kept saying, your breath, you've got a
breath issue, You've got a breath issue, And she didn't
know what the deal was, and turns out she has
this Is it a bacteria or what is it?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's a bacteria called H. Pylori. It increases the risk
for getting ulcers as well as reflex and actually cancer
as well, And a lot of times it can even
be silent. So the people who actually have symptoms around
it and get diagnosed and treated are actually the lucky ones,
because sometimes it doesn't actually get detected until you have.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The ulcer or cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
But one of the things I really recommend in any
phase of life, but especially in this preconception phase where
you're preparing for pregnancy, is to know what's going on
with your microbiome, the bacteria, the yeast, the parasites that
are just inheritanly, inherently in our digestive tract.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So what's really great.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Is that when we find those things even advance of
them CoV causing problems, it can help our health be healthier.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So no one ever told me to check my gut
before I had kids. And I've literally never had this
conversation with my doctor. And if I went to my
doctor and asked for this, what would I even say?
And how do I get taken seriously? Because I feel like,
and maybe this is just my experience as a woman,
and I'm telling you my experience as a woman, but
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it seems like for women even more so, it is
hard to be taken seriously when you ask for something
at the doctor's office.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, and unfortunately, a lot of doctor aren't trained in this.
They don't know the importance of checking what's going on
with the microbiome. So a lot of times you have
to take it into your own hands. And the good
news is that a lot of companies that are really
good are a couple in particular, do a really great
job of direct to consumers, so anybody can go order
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this for themselves. There's a company called tiny Health that
I love because in addition to doing the gut microbiome,
you can also do the vaginal microbiome, which we know
is super important during pregnancy and delivery for passing on
a good microbiome to your child. So you can order
it for yourself. It's called tiny health, and then there's
another one called jonah. It is nice to have a
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doctor that is really familiar with the microbiome and can
help you navigate the results. So looking for a functional
medicine doctor that actually knows how to help you interpret
it and come up with a plan to optimize things.
It's really fun.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So if it's bad and you don't know that is there?
I mean, does this change your eggs? How does this
affect your baby? Is it just affecting your ability to
get pregnant or is it affecting the actual child in
their future as well?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Both?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And this is important for men to so in my
book The pre Consumption Revolution, I explain in great detail.
But when the microbiome is off the gut microbiome, you'r
a genital microbiome. It creates inflammation, and inflammation changes the
way our hormones work and it sends signals in the
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body that there's an extra work to do. So it
can make you less fertile. But even if you are
still able to get pregnant, it can impact the health
that the baby through something called epigenetics. So how genes
are being dialed up and dialed down. So it's really
great for both men and women to know what's going
on with their microbiome and to get it into good
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balance before they get pregnant, because they'll get pregnant easier,
they'll have better fertility and then healthier babies.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So are there cases where gut biome is causing women
to not be able to conceive whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Is that always the woman's fault.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, it's both. I've seen men's sperm health improve also
when we get through microbiome balanced. It's both. So what
I really when I'm so excited about, is how the
research came together in my book to really support There's
over five hundred articles that are included as references, So
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we have all these researchers out there looking at it,
and then I have my personal experience with helping my patience,
and we can really move the needle, and I want
the conversation to change like that, three, six, twelve, even
two years before you're starting or growing your family, that's
the time to really get your body tuned up so
that you don't have trouble with fertility and that you
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have a healthier baby.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Interesting, so you also.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
In some of these interviews that I've heard you talk
about this issue, You've also said that the partner's health
can affect the other partner's health. So if you have
one partner that is like, oh, you know what I'm
gonna I mean, I feel like this is more the
wife or the woman and the mother in the situation,
who would be like, I want to make sure I'm ready.
(08:22):
And I think we kind of think about that. We're like, you,
You're not that involved. What you're doing is not that
big of a deal. My body is the vessel I'm
carrying the child. I have to make sure it's good.
But you have said that if the partner has some
of these health problems or or some some of this
gut bacteria that's not correct, that can be transferred to
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the other.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
So I want people to start thinking about the sperm
as like a time capsule for the baby and for
the pregnancy. So if the if the sperm is epigenetically
changed by andronmental toxins, the microbiome, by stress, by blood
sugar abnormalities, many things that I discuss in the book,
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it can actually influence how healthy the pregnancy is. So
it can increase the risk for preeclampsia, placental issues and
other things so wild.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's like this tea.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's so exciting though, because it's it's like the team effort.
It takes some of the burden off the woman and
it gives the male partner the opportunity to participate in
a whole nother way, like their health is like a
snapshot for this future child that can really get them
inspired to take action and be part of the solution
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to having healthy babies.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And pre clampsia is something that I think as women,
we feel like it's one of those things that while
you're pregnant you're really afraid of because it can it
can I mean, you can die from pre clampsia.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It can be very serious.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It's very serious. The mom can die, the baby can die,
and it's it is very very alarming and very scary.
It's basically like extreme high blood pressure, right, extreme high
blood pressure and signs of the liver being overloaded, like
the liver can't handle all the work that it needs
to do for both baby and mom. There's a lot
of guilt that goes along with things like this when
(10:16):
they occur during pregnancy and people you know, there's It's
funny because we talked to someone recently who was saying,
there's so much guilt at the doctor's office, and I
think oftentimes we don't like to have these conversations because
there is a lot of guilt at the doctor's office.
It's like, don't eat this, you can't have this if
you're overweight. These are the complications that you can have
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during pregnancy, and that's one of them that they say, oh, well,
this could be connected to your weight, But what if
it's not. What if there's other things that it could
be connected to. And that's what you're bringing to us
right now. So there is a huge benefit to finding someone.
I'm in kind of a rural area and that's a
concern of mine, like how do you find this doctor?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
How do you make sure that you have this testing done?
And what is the testing? Do they have to like
is it invasive? Is this me sending in a stool sample?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
How does this go?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, So there's lots of options that things to test,
and that's really described in detail in the book, but
it ranges from detailed nutritional status, the micropiem like we
talked about the tocsin levels. How while your a mitochondria.
You are looking some really detailed markers for inflammation, the
epigenetics at this part, and there's so much that's possible
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to do. So by reading the book, people can find
out how to do some of that testing on their own.
And then also there's going I know there's going to
be such a need for this that I'm going to
be offering an online program starting in January where people
can actually order the test through the program, and then
we can do group calls to help people interpret it
(11:50):
because you know, I can't see the thousands and thousands
of people that I want to have this opportunity to
do this, to have the healthy babies. So there be
a lot of help around this, especially the talks and levels.
I think, you know, one of the things that's really
amazed me over the years is even people that think
they're doing everything right. You know, they're eating organic, they're
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filtering their water, they have some awareness about how the
environmental toxins can be building up in their body. We
find things. Even one of my own kids, we just
did his talks and level. He's twenty four and he
mostly eats organic. He's pretty like he's future proofing his
fertility thank goodness, as best he can. But we found
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a really high actressing level, and so we've had to
do some investigation and we think we figured out what
it was. He was eating some corn that's not organic,
and he was he loves to golf, so maybe the
way he was handling the golf shoes and things after golfing,
and maybe not changing out his gloves enough and some
things like that. So but actually getting the data gives
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us us the opportunity of doing the investigation and finding
ways to solve the problems.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. So these are things to be
aware of if you live near a manufacturing facility, if
you live near a farm, if you live on a
golf course. That's another one that people don't know that
golf courses have a lot of chemicals, a lot of
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chemicals that go to for upkeep and that goes into
your drinking water. But if you're filtering your water, how
do you get forever chemicals out of your water?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, it's tricky, you know some of these things. It's
a cost benefit ratio. But the clean, the better filtration
systems that you can have for your water and even
whole house filters the better, and then also filtering your air,
having some air filters that you use at night, because
air pollution is such a big deal a lot of places.
(13:52):
I mean I live in Texas and there's open burnings allowed,
so people are burning their plastics and all things. And
then you know other places that have a lot of
heavy traffic. There's amazing issues that are very difficult, very
challenging to deal with with the air pollution that and
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there's you know, from a chronic health issue like links
with dementia and Parkinson's and autoimmunity, all of these things
that impact fertility that I want to you know that
I really wrote the book about applied to so many
different health issues that we're seeing escalate. So this book
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could really be applicable for everyone. I just really dialed
it in for the for the fertility piece.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So if you have these issues can and you don't
take care of them, you don't know about them. Is
that potentially causing autoimmune disease in the in the child
or autism or any of these things that we're seeing.
Could that be contributing to these childhood cancers and metabolic
distor orders that we're seeing rising.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
There's links with all of this, and that's why I
think I really want this preconception period to be like
non negotiable, like most women won't get pregnant on purpose
without at least taking a prenatal vitamin. I want this
to become the narrative where men and women are very
consciously choosing when to get pregnant because they know they've
optimized enough of their biology to reduce their child dress
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for autism, mental health issues, cancer, autoimmunity, all these things
that are so alarming what we're seeing increase, the increases
that we're seeing in our children today.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Childhood obesity, all of these things you talk about. One
of the things that you talk about, and I again
will say this because I think historically we have never
considered the fact that the man should be looking at
his health before they try to get pregnant. But you
say a man should probably cut any alcohol out for
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like two months before trying to get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
At least two months. Really three to six months is
more optimal. Really, get the liver arrest and let it
work on detoxing some of these other things that are
harder to control. In the environment.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And if the husband goes out for a football game
and has a night out and drinks a beer, are
you like you got to start those two months over
or I mean, I think because I think we are
getting to the point where we're like, I want to
prevent these diseases.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
What is happening?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You know, I really think about it as the things
we can control. Let's just commit to controlling those things
for as long as we can before we get pregnant.
Is one beer going to make a difference. Probably not,
but it is one of the things that you can control.
So I would prefer it to just make that commitment
and get as many the toxins out. So sperm takes
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about seventy four days to from start to finish to
make a sperm, And really, yes, and so learning something here.
We want that environment that the sperm is kind of
developing in and the egg is developing in to be
as pristine as possible. I mean, you wouldn't plant a
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garden in a place that you know that you had
a sewer lake, right or manufacturing waste to go, Like,
you want that soil to be as pristine as possible,
and the egg and the sperm where it's developing, We
just like just we want it to be fully nourished,
ready to grow a beautiful garden.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, but the sperm you say, it's taking what seventy
four days you said, But the egg is there from
the time we're babies, So I mean we're in our
inside of our mothers with our eggs. So are we
screwing them up throughout our lives? Like are they in
a protected place or what are we doing to them?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The better we take care of our bodies through our
entire lifespan, the easier it is to maintain our fertility
and to have healthy babies. So part of this initiative
is really helping women to know what they can be doing,
you know, their entire lifespan, not just to have healthy babies,
but also to keep our ovary in health as good
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as possible into menopause.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I really think that our ovaries are part of our longevity,
and the better we take care of our full bodies
and the better we'll go through menopause and age. So
it's really a whole longevity conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I think about this as a mom of four girls.
I think what am I doing to prepare them, Like,
what am I doing to screw them up? Is actually
what I'm I want to be saying. I think I'm great,
but I'm also in my mind, I'm like, Okay, I've
really not done the greatest things, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I was.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Listening to you saying that the nonstick pans are no good.
I'm like, oh my gosh, how many things have I
screwed up up? So and you're like, don't door dash right?
And we bring home food home from the restaurants all
the time, and I never thought about I'm always like,
don't microwave it. I never thought, well, it's sitting on
that styrofoam. Why would I want them to eat it?
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But go through all of that with us, because I
do think that as a parent, I'm past the point
like this is this story is now. I'm not having
any more kids. I'm past that point. But I look
at my daughters and I go, I am responsible for
their health and teaching them why their health is important.
What am I doing in my house right now that
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isn't good for them? I love this framing the conversation
this way. It's really really important. So I want to
raise the alarm bells but also give people hope. So yes,
I think you're really really being thoughtful about how to
help your children to protect their future fertility. And do
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need to start thinking about the PIFAs, the plastics, the pesticides,
the heavy metals, because they really do build up in
the body. So the better we can do with not
having the toxins come in, the better. Now, I will
say that I've seen people in their mid forties that
have had issues with fertility. Some people have had to
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do ibs previously, and even in their mid thirties and
in their forties, and even one person in their late
forties right now's forty seven, that we were able to
do a very intensive, thoughtful detox, like not like the
stuff that you see with the cleanses and the juice
fests and all that kind of thing online.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But yeah, that's what I assume that I'm really likes
some green drink for in the next.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Thirty days and the green rings won't heart too. But
there are certain supplements that I write about in the book.
Liposome will glue to thione, hospittal coaline, certain binders helping
the methy lation pathways. It's very science based safe gentle
detox and it's very effective for getting those talks inside
of your body.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So okay, but do I have to think about this
with my kids? Should I be testing them?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
If you can? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And that's like through I can do that through one
of these.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I did this recently as a company called yome Yes
and you send in. I didn't know that you were,
so I was like, yeah, I would love to do this,
and then the kit came and it freaked me out
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You had to spit and then you you sends you
spit in your soul sample those were fine.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You had to take your own blood and I was like,
I cannot do this.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And I will say that my twelve year old was like, Mom,
I've got this. I'm such a whimp. And she did it.
She she took my blood and she and you prick
your finger and it's not like you're using a needle
in your arm, but you prick your fingers.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And I was like, I'm going to pass out. She
did it all and you sent it in.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I know, That's what I said to her. I'm like, you,
not that many people have this gift. Her twin looked
at us both and was like, I'm taking the dog out.
Never has taken the dog out in her life. She
just couldn't stand the sight of blood, you know. But
she was great. She took care of me. It was
amazing what it comes back with. It comes back with
like the foods you should eat. And I never I
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was like, oh, this is great for me.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't think about my kids because I'm like, they're young,
they're healthy. I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But of course this is when this is starting, all
this bad gut stuff, So why shouldn't I don't think
about it because they don't seem to have health problems.
But I am desperately afraid of them not being able
to conceive, because it seems like this generation of young
women cannot conceive. I think it's what you said one
in ten.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's actually one in six couples. Now, maybe are you serious?
One in five couples crazy where one or both are
dealing with infertility. The sperm count has gone down by
fifty percent in fifty years, so about one percent a year,
but it's accelerating. This last count it was two point
six percent in a year. But I want to like,
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we we have to start thinking about our children, grandchildren's fertility.
But I want to be hopeful because this approach of
eating the right foods, getting the body into an optimal
shape can preserve fertility well into the into forties.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So with Biome, they actually do say these are the
supplements that you need to get your gut in shape,
and then I don't really know what that means. So
you so you're on board with that there are there
are supplements that you take. Explain how that works and
are these vitamins or what is what happens?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, So and again really detailed outline in the book
around fertility and the things that there's very good scientific
evidence for in the book, but we kind of forget
that our body runs on nutrients, and so there I've
really highlighted the nutrients that can help to sustain fertility
and actually improve it. So it's a lot of the antioxidants,
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so things like kerkcumin and the B vitamins and asked as.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Antheen is popping up this one because there's really.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Great I don't even know what that word means now.
It's like a it's like a vitamin A, but a
special form of vitamin a. So there's there's amazing research
that is available to help us to choose some things
that really help. And then on ovarian aging when the
supplements that can really make a difference, or special forms
of co Q ten. So I think most people have
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probably heard of coq ten. It really helps our mitochondria,
the little organelles inside our body make energy better. And
then things like carnatine the fasttchline again is really good
for our mitochondria. So there's all this search that's coming
together that I put into the book that can really
help people to feel empowered and not so afraid. It
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just breaks my heart how many, you know, thirty thirty
year old women are being guided to go put their
eggsll ice to protect their fertility without actually helping their
bodies to be stronger better. And I think if they
put those resources and the time and energy into protecting
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their fertility, it's really not a great idea to do
the IVF because and the egg carvesting, because it's so
hard on the body. It's really pushing the body in
such a hard way for women to know, hey, wait,
if I'm doing these things, I'm eating healthy and taking
the right supplements, keeping the toxins out that I can
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actually have good fertility well into my forties and not
be in this state of fear. It's such a better
place because it's really just turned into the narrative thirty
You're probably gonna have to do idea for you need
to be thinking about Harvey sitting or eggs, and it's
just not what I see with my patients.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast, we are
pushing pregnancy out. I had my kids at thirty two,
thirty four, and thirty six.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I was fortunate. All I had to do was think
about getting pregnant, and I was pregnant.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I feel so blessed about it because now I
look at this and I think I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I don't know if I was taking care of myself,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I just look back and I'm like, I have no
idea if I was in that kind of shape to
have my children or not. But it's also such a
hard conversation to have. I've had relatives that have struggled
with conception and they don't tell anybody, or they tell
you that you can never talk about it, and it's
just so awkward. And as a mom and a dad
of a kid, a daughter or a son who's struggling there,
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it's really hard to have that conversation because they think
you have no idea what we're going through. That's why
I like the idea of a book because it's something
that you can share and even you know, hey, listen
to this podcast or watch what this person has to say.
But look, she wrote this book. It's called the Preconception Revolution.
Why preparing your body for pregnancy changes everything? We don't
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think about preparing our bodies. Like I said, I never
considered am I capable of doing this?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And That's what I'm supposed to do? Like that's how
the body works, right.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Never never considered getting myself I would get myself in
shape for a race, never considered getting myself in shape
for pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But why shouldn't we? And that's why I.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Think that we should be talking to people about getting
this book and sharing it with others. So tell people
where they get it and how you how you kind
of broach that conversation from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So it's the Preconception Revolution, and it's on Amazon and
every place that books are sold there's lots of information
on my website and Shippy MD dot com. And what
I'm finding is that there are a lot of but
you know, potential future grandparents that are really super interested
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in providing this support to their future grandchildren and to
their children. And I think it's it's just an easy
gift to give because if nothing else, if they're you know,
not wanting to have children, it's still information that's great
for their health.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So really too pushy to give someone this as like
a bridal shower gift.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I know. I think it's a great one just in case.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I know, because it doesn't have to be for someone
in your life that's struggling.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I mean, this is not meant for just people who
are struggling. You're saying everybody should be doing this, right.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm more concerned about the people who have no idea
that they're about to head into oncoming traffic. Like I
feel like when people get to the point of having
the infertility, they know they're in check engine light is on.
But I think there are a lot of people that
have no idea. They don't have the feedback loop to
know that they're entering into dangerous territory either that they're
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going to have a problem with fertility in their future,
or that they're going to have children with the health risks,
and so I think it's a muster read for anybody
whoever wants to get pregnant or have a family, because
we want to do true prevention. We don't want people
to have to get to the point where they're dealing
with infertility. It's so heartbreaking to have a child with
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autism or severe mental health issues, or diabetes, all the
things like. It is so hard for parents. I think
it's harder to having gone through my own health crisis
and having had children with illness, it's harder for me
to go through a child being sick that it is
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for me to have. So I just it's really what
it's the true prevention that I want people to have
so that they can really enjoy a healthy family.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Let me ask you one more thing. Are there toxins
that your parents could have experienced that are still in
your system? Because I know when my grandmother was pregnant,
everybody was taking some drug that was causing the babies
to be born with limb deformities. A day my aunt
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didn't have a limb deformity but she had such trouble
with her whole reproductive system was messed up, and they
believe it was from that drug.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I'm going to just be very transparent here. Yeah, I
think my mom wasn't a big smoker, but she did
smoke a little bit when she got around the time
that she got pregnant with me, So we know that
some of those chemicals can actually stay epigenetically for the
long haul. And then for me, I still had a
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mouthful full of a Malcolm Fillings and I had eaten
a ton of tuna fish. So the heavy metal effects
on my kids I think definitely made u There are
things in this book that I know my kids could
have been healthier if I had known it beforehand. And I,
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you know, you just tuna fish bad because it's high
in mercury and actually a lot of fish. I'm starting
it's so depressing, but I'm starting to think, you know,
if if the FDA says don't wait that pregnant women
shouldn't eat fish, men and women planning for pregnancy shouldn't
eat fish more than once a week.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Wow, this is so stunning.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I mean, because I feel like fish is so healthy.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's really challenging to get fish that's not got high
levels of mercury in.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It these days.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Wow, okay, so it's not so you probably can't just
test your I'm sorry I keep holding you over, but
you probably can't just test your gut once. You have
to constantly test it, or how do you know you're
getting better?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yes, I mean it's good to the microbiome piece is
a good test to do at least once a year
and see where you are, and to look and see
where your inflammation markers are and your talks and levels.
So you know, it's part of the challenge of all
this is it's outside the insurance model, you know, And
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to me, the benefits of knowing this information are so
worth it, especially you know when you look at the
cost of having a child with and with poor health
or dealing with infertility.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right well, I even think about as you age, there
are when you talk about inflammation, and I think about joints,
and I think about menopause, and I think about all
of the things that we go through. And I don't
know why you wouldn't want to be constantly aware of
making sure that everything. We just keep hearing about the gut,
which is so new. You know, we never heard about
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that when I was a kid, and certainly not. I mean,
my oldest is sixteen, so I wasn't hearing about any
of this when I was pregnant. I just think this
is very interesting and it was fascinating to see when
I did the voome and I got my report back,
it was like things that I eat every day were
causing me extreme problems, not extreme, like it was like
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this is going to make you have stomach pain and
this is going to make you feel bloated, and I'm like,
oh my word, I feel so much better cutting things
out that seem like they are healthy for someone else,
but they're not for me. That was what I found
most interesting. Not everybody is the same, so it's not
like you just this is what you should eat. It
has to be based on how your body reacts to it.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And it is really such an exciting area of medicine
as understanding the microbiome and how food interacts with each individual.
It's so exciting that we could customize these things.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So then I think that's also why you need to
know how your spouse reacts, because your spouse affects you
and you may not be eating the same things like that,
your body may not react to things the same way.
So it is kind of like a whole family approach
to health. So you do kind of have to know
how ever beauty reacts to it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
But it is.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's been fascinating for me to read about. I am
so grateful to you for writing this book. Like I
said to everyone, if you know someone, I really think
it's like if you know someone that just got married,
if you know someone that is even looking at hey,
we're thinking of conceiving in the next year, they should
be reading this book right right.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Thank you so much for seeing the vision.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Absolutely really help to get the world word out there.
And I think there's a possibility of this truly changing
this children's health crisis that we're experiencing with the you know,
just sicker and sicker kids. I think we could actually
get a handle on this by having healthier parents before
they conceive.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
That's it's fascinating. So give us the book one more time.
The Preconception Revolution. All right, go out there and get
it for the men and women in your life. It's
not just a woman thing, it's a men and women thing.
So go out and get the book, It's Doctor and Shippy,
Doctor Shippy, thank you so much for coming on today,
thanks for having me absolutely, and thank you all for
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Speaker 1 (35:57):
Have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today, we have a guest that is going to tell
us all about our gut, which I'm excited about, and
how our gut not only affects our health, but also
you have probably noticed that many young couples have been
struggling to conceive in the last I would say, almost
like ten years now, and we've sort of wondered what
is it? Is it something, is it medication? Is it
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something in the environment. And then I heard our guest
on a podcast and she was talking about all of
the pefosts that we are consuming on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You may have heard about these forever chemicals.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We hear about them a lot where I am because
we have a lot of manufacturers. I know our guest
today will talk about probably farming as well.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
If you live near a farm, you're also probably experiencing this.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But also I was shocked to hear it's even in
my cookwear and it's in the foods that I eat
and the.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Cans that I drink out of.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So, with no further ado, doctor Ann Shippy is here
with us to talk about are about internal medicine and
the environment that affects our gut every day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Thank you so much for joining me, thank you for
having me.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And yes, the gut is the center of the universe
in my world because it's so important for really every
aspect of biology, from absorbing our nutrients that run everything,
to our microbiome, which are the organisms that help our
bodies to work better, to a huge part of our
immune system is located in the gut. So our gut
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is good, a lot of our bodies good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well. I love your story because you are someone who
experienced this yourself. You had an autoimmune disorder. You were
not a doctor at the time, which this I love
your story because you are driven and this is like
the ultimate driven. Because you were working at IBM and
you got sick, Doctors couldn't figure it out, You got better,
you got sick again, and you were like, I'm gonna
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go to med school. That's not a thing people don't
do that. You're special.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, I'm so fortunate because I think a lot of
times people do have life experiences that happen, but they're
and get inspired to make a change, but they're so
locked into their lives that they can't take eight years
off and go back to school.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, I mean, I'm amazed by it, but also what
you've been able to do, because, like I said, there
are so many things going on today in our bodies
that we don't understand why they're happening. I've had so
many young women that I've talked to who I think,
first of all, I'll say, we are pushing off having
kids till later.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So our audience is.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
People with children, and people with adult children, and people
probably also trying to conceive. But I would say that
when I talk to our audience, I think many of
them have children the age that are trying to conceive
right now, and or they're in their high school years,
and we're going, what do we need to be doing
to make sure they are ready to do that? And
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you have all these suggestions on for both men and women,
which I found fascinat on making sure that you've kind
of like cleared out these toxins from your body to
make sure your body's ready for this. But I'm listening
to you talk about this, and I'm thinking this also
pertains to everybody. Because I heard you talk about h pylori.
(03:15):
I want to get into that just really quickly, because
I recently met someone.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Who had no idea that she was experiencing this.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
She had a lot of acid reflux, had like a
situation where people kept saying, your breath, you've got a
breath issue, You've got a breath issue, And she didn't
know what the deal was, and turns out she has
this Is it a bacteria or what is it?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's a bacteria called H. Pylori. It increases the risk
for getting ulcers as well as reflex and actually cancer
as well, And a lot of times it can even
be silent. So the people who actually have symptoms around
it and get diagnosed and treated are actually the lucky ones,
because sometimes it doesn't actually get detected until you have.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
The ulcer or cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
But one of the things I really recommend in any
phase of life, but especially in this preconception phase where
you're preparing for pregnancy, is to know what's going on
with your microbiome, the bacteria, the yeast, the parasites that
are just inheritanly, inherently in our digestive tract.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So what's really great.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Is that when we find those things even advance of
them CoV causing problems, it can help our health be healthier.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So no one ever told me to check my gut
before I had kids. And I've literally never had this
conversation with my doctor. And if I went to my
doctor and asked for this, what would I even say?
And how do I get taken seriously? Because I feel like,
and maybe this is just my experience as a woman,
and I'm telling you my experience as a woman, but
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it seems like for women even more so, it is
hard to be taken seriously when you ask for something
at the doctor's office.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, and unfortunately, a lot of doctor aren't trained in this.
They don't know the importance of checking what's going on
with the microbiome. So a lot of times you have
to take it into your own hands. And the good
news is that a lot of companies that are really
good are a couple in particular, do a really great
job of direct to consumers, so anybody can go order
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this for themselves. There's a company called tiny Health that
I love because in addition to doing the gut microbiome,
you can also do the vaginal microbiome, which we know
is super important during pregnancy and delivery for passing on
a good microbiome to your child. So you can order
it for yourself. It's called tiny health, and then there's
another one called jonah. It is nice to have a
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doctor that is really familiar with the microbiome and can
help you navigate the results. So looking for a functional
medicine doctor that actually knows how to help you interpret
it and come up with a plan to optimize things.
It's really fun.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So if it's bad and you don't know that is there?
I mean, does this change your eggs? How does this
affect your baby? Is it just affecting your ability to
get pregnant or is it affecting the actual child in
their future as well?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Both?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And this is important for men to so in my
book The pre Consumption Revolution, I explain in great detail.
But when the microbiome is off the gut microbiome, you'r
a genital microbiome. It creates inflammation, and inflammation changes the
way our hormones work and it sends signals in the
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body that there's an extra work to do. So it
can make you less fertile. But even if you are
still able to get pregnant, it can impact the health
that the baby through something called epigenetics. So how genes
are being dialed up and dialed down. So it's really
great for both men and women to know what's going
on with their microbiome and to get it into good
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balance before they get pregnant, because they'll get pregnant easier,
they'll have better fertility and then healthier babies.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So are there cases where gut biome is causing women
to not be able to conceive whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Is that always the woman's fault.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, it's both. I've seen men's sperm health improve also
when we get through microbiome balanced. It's both. So what
I really when I'm so excited about, is how the
research came together in my book to really support There's
over five hundred articles that are included as references, So
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we have all these researchers out there looking at it,
and then I have my personal experience with helping my patience,
and we can really move the needle, and I want
the conversation to change like that, three, six, twelve, even
two years before you're starting or growing your family, that's
the time to really get your body tuned up so
that you don't have trouble with fertility and that you
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have a healthier baby.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Interesting, so you also.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
In some of these interviews that I've heard you talk
about this issue, You've also said that the partner's health
can affect the other partner's health. So if you have
one partner that is like, oh, you know what I'm
gonna I mean, I feel like this is more the
wife or the woman and the mother in the situation,
who would be like, I want to make sure I'm ready.
(08:22):
And I think we kind of think about that. We're like, you,
You're not that involved. What you're doing is not that
big of a deal. My body is the vessel I'm
carrying the child. I have to make sure it's good.
But you have said that if the partner has some
of these health problems or or some some of this
gut bacteria that's not correct, that can be transferred to
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the other.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
So I want people to start thinking about the sperm
as like a time capsule for the baby and for
the pregnancy. So if the if the sperm is epigenetically
changed by andronmental toxins, the microbiome, by stress, by blood
sugar abnormalities, many things that I discuss in the book,
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it can actually influence how healthy the pregnancy is. So
it can increase the risk for preeclampsia, placental issues and
other things so wild.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It's like this tea.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
It's so exciting though, because it's it's like the team effort.
It takes some of the burden off the woman and
it gives the male partner the opportunity to participate in
a whole nother way, like their health is like a
snapshot for this future child that can really get them
inspired to take action and be part of the solution
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to having healthy babies.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And pre clampsia is something that I think as women,
we feel like it's one of those things that while
you're pregnant you're really afraid of because it can it
can I mean, you can die from pre clampsia.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It can be very serious.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It's very serious. The mom can die, the baby can die,
and it's it is very very alarming and very scary.
It's basically like extreme high blood pressure, right, extreme high
blood pressure and signs of the liver being overloaded, like
the liver can't handle all the work that it needs
to do for both baby and mom. There's a lot
of guilt that goes along with things like this when
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they occur during pregnancy and people you know, there's It's
funny because we talked to someone recently who was saying,
there's so much guilt at the doctor's office, and I
think oftentimes we don't like to have these conversations because
there is a lot of guilt at the doctor's office.
It's like, don't eat this, you can't have this if
you're overweight. These are the complications that you can have
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during pregnancy, and that's one of them that they say, oh, well,
this could be connected to your weight, But what if
it's not. What if there's other things that it could
be connected to. And that's what you're bringing to us
right now. So there is a huge benefit to finding someone.
I'm in kind of a rural area and that's a
concern of mine, like how do you find this doctor?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
How do you make sure that you have this testing done?
And what is the testing? Do they have to like
is it invasive? Is this me sending in a stool sample?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
How does this go?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, So there's lots of options that things to test,
and that's really described in detail in the book, but
it ranges from detailed nutritional status, the micropiem like we
talked about the tocsin levels. How while your a mitochondria.
You are looking some really detailed markers for inflammation, the
epigenetics at this part, and there's so much that's possible
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to do. So by reading the book, people can find
out how to do some of that testing on their own.
And then also there's going I know there's going to
be such a need for this that I'm going to
be offering an online program starting in January where people
can actually order the test through the program, and then
we can do group calls to help people interpret it
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because you know, I can't see the thousands and thousands
of people that I want to have this opportunity to
do this, to have the healthy babies. So there be
a lot of help around this, especially the talks and levels.
I think, you know, one of the things that's really
amazed me over the years is even people that think
they're doing everything right. You know, they're eating organic, they're
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filtering their water, they have some awareness about how the
environmental toxins can be building up in their body. We
find things. Even one of my own kids, we just
did his talks and level. He's twenty four and he
mostly eats organic. He's pretty like he's future proofing his
fertility thank goodness, as best he can. But we found
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a really high actressing level, and so we've had to
do some investigation and we think we figured out what
it was. He was eating some corn that's not organic,
and he was he loves to golf, so maybe the
way he was handling the golf shoes and things after golfing,
and maybe not changing out his gloves enough and some
things like that. So but actually getting the data gives
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us us the opportunity of doing the investigation and finding
ways to solve the problems.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. So these are things to be
aware of if you live near a manufacturing facility, if
you live near a farm, if you live on a
golf course. That's another one that people don't know that
golf courses have a lot of chemicals, a lot of
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chemicals that go to for upkeep and that goes into
your drinking water. But if you're filtering your water, how
do you get forever chemicals out of your water?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, it's tricky, you know some of these things. It's
a cost benefit ratio. But the clean, the better filtration
systems that you can have for your water and even
whole house filters the better, and then also filtering your air,
having some air filters that you use at night, because
air pollution is such a big deal a lot of places.
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I mean I live in Texas and there's open burnings allowed,
so people are burning their plastics and all things. And
then you know other places that have a lot of
heavy traffic. There's amazing issues that are very difficult, very
challenging to deal with with the air pollution that and
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there's you know, from a chronic health issue like links
with dementia and Parkinson's and autoimmunity, all of these things
that impact fertility that I want to you know that
I really wrote the book about applied to so many
different health issues that we're seeing escalate. So this book
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could really be applicable for everyone. I just really dialed
it in for the for the fertility piece.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So if you have these issues can and you don't
take care of them, you don't know about them. Is
that potentially causing autoimmune disease in the in the child
or autism or any of these things that we're seeing.
Could that be contributing to these childhood cancers and metabolic
distor orders that we're seeing rising.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
There's links with all of this, and that's why I
think I really want this preconception period to be like
non negotiable, like most women won't get pregnant on purpose
without at least taking a prenatal vitamin. I want this
to become the narrative where men and women are very
consciously choosing when to get pregnant because they know they've
optimized enough of their biology to reduce their child dress
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for autism, mental health issues, cancer, autoimmunity, all these things
that are so alarming what we're seeing increase, the increases
that we're seeing in our children today.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Childhood obesity, all of these things you talk about. One
of the things that you talk about, and I again
will say this because I think historically we have never
considered the fact that the man should be looking at
his health before they try to get pregnant. But you
say a man should probably cut any alcohol out for
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like two months before trying to get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
At least two months. Really three to six months is
more optimal. Really, get the liver arrest and let it
work on detoxing some of these other things that are
harder to control. In the environment.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And if the husband goes out for a football game
and has a night out and drinks a beer, are
you like you got to start those two months over
or I mean, I think because I think we are
getting to the point where we're like, I want to
prevent these diseases.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
What is happening?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You know, I really think about it as the things
we can control. Let's just commit to controlling those things
for as long as we can before we get pregnant.
Is one beer going to make a difference. Probably not,
but it is one of the things that you can control.
So I would prefer it to just make that commitment
and get as many the toxins out. So sperm takes
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about seventy four days to from start to finish to
make a sperm, And really, yes, and so learning something here.
We want that environment that the sperm is kind of
developing in and the egg is developing in to be
as pristine as possible. I mean, you wouldn't plant a
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garden in a place that you know that you had
a sewer lake, right or manufacturing waste to go, Like,
you want that soil to be as pristine as possible,
and the egg and the sperm where it's developing, We
just like just we want it to be fully nourished,
ready to grow a beautiful garden.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Okay, but the sperm you say, it's taking what seventy
four days you said, But the egg is there from
the time we're babies, So I mean we're in our
inside of our mothers with our eggs. So are we
screwing them up throughout our lives? Like are they in
a protected place or what are we doing to them?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
The better we take care of our bodies through our
entire lifespan, the easier it is to maintain our fertility
and to have healthy babies. So part of this initiative
is really helping women to know what they can be doing,
you know, their entire lifespan, not just to have healthy babies,
but also to keep our ovary in health as good
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as possible into menopause.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I really think that our ovaries are part of our longevity,
and the better we take care of our full bodies
and the better we'll go through menopause and age. So
it's really a whole longevity conversation as well.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I think about this as a mom of four girls.
I think what am I doing to prepare them, Like,
what am I doing to screw them up? Is actually
what I'm I want to be saying. I think I'm great,
but I'm also in my mind, I'm like, Okay, I've
really not done the greatest things, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And I was.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Listening to you saying that the nonstick pans are no good.
I'm like, oh my gosh, how many things have I
screwed up up? So and you're like, don't door dash right?
And we bring home food home from the restaurants all
the time, and I never thought about I'm always like,
don't microwave it. I never thought, well, it's sitting on
that styrofoam. Why would I want them to eat it?
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But go through all of that with us, because I
do think that as a parent, I'm past the point
like this is this story is now. I'm not having
any more kids. I'm past that point. But I look
at my daughters and I go, I am responsible for
their health and teaching them why their health is important.
What am I doing in my house right now that
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isn't good for them? I love this framing the conversation
this way. It's really really important. So I want to
raise the alarm bells but also give people hope. So yes,
I think you're really really being thoughtful about how to
help your children to protect their future fertility. And do
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need to start thinking about the PIFAs, the plastics, the pesticides,
the heavy metals, because they really do build up in
the body. So the better we can do with not
having the toxins come in, the better. Now, I will
say that I've seen people in their mid forties that
have had issues with fertility. Some people have had to
(20:22):
do ibs previously, and even in their mid thirties and
in their forties, and even one person in their late
forties right now's forty seven, that we were able to
do a very intensive, thoughtful detox, like not like the
stuff that you see with the cleanses and the juice
fests and all that kind of thing online.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But yeah, that's what I assume that I'm really likes
some green drink for in the next.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Thirty days and the green rings won't heart too. But
there are certain supplements that I write about in the book.
Liposome will glue to thione, hospittal coaline, certain binders helping
the methy lation pathways. It's very science based safe gentle
detox and it's very effective for getting those talks inside
of your body.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So okay, but do I have to think about this
with my kids? Should I be testing them?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
If you can? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And that's like through I can do that through one
of these.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I did this recently as a company called yome Yes
and you send in. I didn't know that you were,
so I was like, yeah, I would love to do this,
and then the kit came and it freaked me out
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
You had to spit and then you you sends you
spit in your soul sample those were fine.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You had to take your own blood and I was like,
I cannot do this.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And I will say that my twelve year old was like, Mom,
I've got this. I'm such a whimp. And she did it.
She she took my blood and she and you prick
your finger and it's not like you're using a needle
in your arm, but you prick your fingers.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And I was like, I'm going to pass out. She
did it all and you sent it in.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I know, That's what I said to her. I'm like, you,
not that many people have this gift. Her twin looked
at us both and was like, I'm taking the dog out.
Never has taken the dog out in her life. She
just couldn't stand the sight of blood, you know. But
she was great. She took care of me. It was
amazing what it comes back with. It comes back with
like the foods you should eat. And I never I
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was like, oh, this is great for me.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't think about my kids because I'm like, they're young,
they're healthy. I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But of course this is when this is starting, all
this bad gut stuff, So why shouldn't I don't think
about it because they don't seem to have health problems.
But I am desperately afraid of them not being able
to conceive, because it seems like this generation of young
women cannot conceive. I think it's what you said one
in ten.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's actually one in six couples. Now, maybe are you serious?
One in five couples crazy where one or both are
dealing with infertility. The sperm count has gone down by
fifty percent in fifty years, so about one percent a year,
but it's accelerating. This last count it was two point
six percent in a year. But I want to like,
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we we have to start thinking about our children, grandchildren's fertility.
But I want to be hopeful because this approach of
eating the right foods, getting the body into an optimal
shape can preserve fertility well into the into forties.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
So with Biome, they actually do say these are the
supplements that you need to get your gut in shape,
and then I don't really know what that means. So
you so you're on board with that there are there
are supplements that you take. Explain how that works and
are these vitamins or what is what happens?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, So and again really detailed outline in the book
around fertility and the things that there's very good scientific
evidence for in the book, but we kind of forget
that our body runs on nutrients, and so there I've
really highlighted the nutrients that can help to sustain fertility
and actually improve it. So it's a lot of the antioxidants,
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so things like kerkcumin and the B vitamins and asked as.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Antheen is popping up this one because there's really.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Great I don't even know what that word means now.
It's like a it's like a vitamin A, but a
special form of vitamin a. So there's there's amazing research
that is available to help us to choose some things
that really help. And then on ovarian aging when the
supplements that can really make a difference, or special forms
of co Q ten. So I think most people have
(24:46):
probably heard of coq ten. It really helps our mitochondria,
the little organelles inside our body make energy better. And
then things like carnatine the fasttchline again is really good
for our mitochondria. So there's all this search that's coming
together that I put into the book that can really
help people to feel empowered and not so afraid. It
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just breaks my heart how many, you know, thirty thirty
year old women are being guided to go put their
eggsll ice to protect their fertility without actually helping their
bodies to be stronger better. And I think if they
put those resources and the time and energy into protecting
(25:29):
their fertility, it's really not a great idea to do
the IVF because and the egg carvesting, because it's so
hard on the body. It's really pushing the body in
such a hard way for women to know, hey, wait,
if I'm doing these things, I'm eating healthy and taking
the right supplements, keeping the toxins out that I can
(25:50):
actually have good fertility well into my forties and not
be in this state of fear. It's such a better
place because it's really just turned into the narrative thirty
You're probably gonna have to do idea for you need
to be thinking about Harvey sitting or eggs, and it's
just not what I see with my patients.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast, we are
pushing pregnancy out. I had my kids at thirty two,
thirty four, and thirty six.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I was fortunate. All I had to do was think
about getting pregnant, and I was pregnant.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And I feel so blessed about it because now I
look at this and I think I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I don't know if I was taking care of myself,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I just look back and I'm like, I have no
idea if I was in that kind of shape to
have my children or not. But it's also such a
hard conversation to have. I've had relatives that have struggled
with conception and they don't tell anybody, or they tell
you that you can never talk about it, and it's
just so awkward. And as a mom and a dad
of a kid, a daughter or a son who's struggling there,
(26:59):
it's really hard to have that conversation because they think
you have no idea what we're going through. That's why
I like the idea of a book because it's something
that you can share and even you know, hey, listen
to this podcast or watch what this person has to say.
But look, she wrote this book. It's called the Preconception Revolution.
Why preparing your body for pregnancy changes everything? We don't
(27:21):
think about preparing our bodies. Like I said, I never
considered am I capable of doing this?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And That's what I'm supposed to do? Like that's how
the body works, right.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Never never considered getting myself I would get myself in
shape for a race, never considered getting myself in shape
for pregnancy.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But why shouldn't we? And that's why I.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Think that we should be talking to people about getting
this book and sharing it with others. So tell people
where they get it and how you how you kind
of broach that conversation from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So it's the Preconception Revolution, and it's on Amazon and
every place that books are sold there's lots of information
on my website and Shippy MD dot com. And what
I'm finding is that there are a lot of but
you know, potential future grandparents that are really super interested
(28:19):
in providing this support to their future grandchildren and to
their children. And I think it's it's just an easy
gift to give because if nothing else, if they're you know,
not wanting to have children, it's still information that's great
for their health.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So really too pushy to give someone this as like
a bridal shower gift.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I know. I think it's a great one just in case.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I know, because it doesn't have to be for someone
in your life that's struggling.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I mean, this is not meant for just people who
are struggling. You're saying everybody should be doing this, right.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm more concerned about the people who have no idea
that they're about to head into oncoming traffic. Like I
feel like when people get to the point of having
the infertility, they know they're in check engine light is on.
But I think there are a lot of people that
have no idea. They don't have the feedback loop to
know that they're entering into dangerous territory either that they're
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going to have a problem with fertility in their future,
or that they're going to have children with the health risks,
and so I think it's a muster read for anybody
whoever wants to get pregnant or have a family, because
we want to do true prevention. We don't want people
to have to get to the point where they're dealing
with infertility. It's so heartbreaking to have a child with
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autism or severe mental health issues, or diabetes, all the
things like. It is so hard for parents. I think
it's harder to having gone through my own health crisis
and having had children with illness, it's harder for me
to go through a child being sick that it is
(30:05):
for me to have. So I just it's really what
it's the true prevention that I want people to have
so that they can really enjoy a healthy family.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Let me ask you one more thing. Are there toxins
that your parents could have experienced that are still in
your system? Because I know when my grandmother was pregnant,
everybody was taking some drug that was causing the babies
to be born with limb deformities. A day my aunt
(30:38):
didn't have a limb deformity but she had such trouble
with her whole reproductive system was messed up, and they
believe it was from that drug.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I'm going to just be very transparent here. Yeah, I
think my mom wasn't a big smoker, but she did
smoke a little bit when she got around the time
that she got pregnant with me, So we know that
some of those chemicals can actually stay epigenetically for the
long haul. And then for me, I still had a
(31:08):
mouthful full of a Malcolm Fillings and I had eaten
a ton of tuna fish. So the heavy metal effects
on my kids I think definitely made u There are
things in this book that I know my kids could
have been healthier if I had known it beforehand. And I,
(31:30):
you know, you just tuna fish bad because it's high
in mercury and actually a lot of fish. I'm starting
it's so depressing, but I'm starting to think, you know,
if if the FDA says don't wait that pregnant women
shouldn't eat fish, men and women planning for pregnancy shouldn't
eat fish more than once a week.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Wow, this is so stunning.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I mean, because I feel like fish is so healthy.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's really challenging to get fish that's not got high
levels of mercury in.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It these days.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Wow, okay, so it's not so you probably can't just
test your I'm sorry I keep holding you over, but
you probably can't just test your gut once. You have
to constantly test it, or how do you know you're
getting better?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yes, I mean it's good to the microbiome piece is
a good test to do at least once a year
and see where you are, and to look and see
where your inflammation markers are and your talks and levels.
So you know, it's part of the challenge of all
this is it's outside the insurance model, you know, And
(32:43):
to me, the benefits of knowing this information are so
worth it, especially you know when you look at the
cost of having a child with and with poor health
or dealing with infertility.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Right well, I even think about as you age, there
are when you talk about inflammation, and I think about joints,
and I think about menopause, and I think about all
of the things that we go through. And I don't
know why you wouldn't want to be constantly aware of
making sure that everything. We just keep hearing about the gut,
which is so new. You know, we never heard about
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that when I was a kid, and certainly not. I mean,
my oldest is sixteen, so I wasn't hearing about any
of this when I was pregnant. I just think this
is very interesting and it was fascinating to see when
I did the voome and I got my report back,
it was like things that I eat every day were
causing me extreme problems, not extreme, like it was like
(33:44):
this is going to make you have stomach pain and
this is going to make you feel bloated, and I'm like,
oh my word, I feel so much better cutting things
out that seem like they are healthy for someone else,
but they're not for me. That was what I found
most interesting. Not everybody is the same, so it's not
like you just this is what you should eat. It
has to be based on how your body reacts to it.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And it is really such an exciting area of medicine
as understanding the microbiome and how food interacts with each individual.
It's so exciting that we could customize these things.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So then I think that's also why you need to
know how your spouse reacts, because your spouse affects you
and you may not be eating the same things like that,
your body may not react to things the same way.
So it is kind of like a whole family approach
to health. So you do kind of have to know
how ever beauty reacts to it.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
But it is.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's been fascinating for me to read about. I am
so grateful to you for writing this book. Like I
said to everyone, if you know someone, I really think
it's like if you know someone that just got married,
if you know someone that is even looking at hey,
we're thinking of conceiving in the next year, they should
be reading this book right right.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Thank you so much for seeing the vision.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Absolutely really help to get the world word out there.
And I think there's a possibility of this truly changing
this children's health crisis that we're experiencing with the you know,
just sicker and sicker kids. I think we could actually
get a handle on this by having healthier parents before
they conceive.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
That's it's fascinating. So give us the book one more time.
The Preconception Revolution. All right, go out there and get
it for the men and women in your life. It's
not just a woman thing, it's a men and women thing.
So go out and get the book, It's Doctor and Shippy,
Doctor Shippy, thank you so much for coming on today,
thanks for having me absolutely, and thank you all for
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and others. You can get it wherever you get your podcasts,
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Speaker 1 (35:57):
Have a blessed day.
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