November 24, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, Tudor Dixon interviews political analyst JT Young about the rapid rise of socialism in America. They examine why socialist candidates are gaining influence inside the Democratic Party, how schools and universities are shaping youth support for socialist policies, and what a socialist shift could mean for major cities like New York. Dixon and Young also discuss the future of the Democratic Party and the potential national impact of expanding socialist ideologies. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast, and today
we are going to have a lesson in socialism. It
seems like it's time we see it going all across
this country.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And even though you may feel.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Like, oh, this is just in a few mayoral races,
and maybe it was New York City, but it's not
New York State. We actually have an expert here today
to tell us why we should be a little bit
more hyper aware of exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We have JT. Young with us.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
He is a former congressional policy advisor who worked three
decades in and around Congress. But he's also the author
of a new book called Unprecedented Assault. How Big Government
unleashed America's socialists left. This is terrifying. Tell us what
is going on. Thank you for joining me today.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's a pleasure to be here, though I hate to
have to be on this topic. I mean, this truly
is an unprecedented assault. We have never seen anything like
this in American history, and we've been very fortunate that
we haven't, and I think the rest of the world
would be would tell us just how fortunate we are.
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But we are now seeing, as you just mentioned in
your preface here, we are seeing people not just running
away from the Democrat socialist label, they're running to that label.
And we haven't seen that, and really well over a century.
Eugene Debs was a perennial or quadrennial socialist candidate for president,
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ran five times, never won a single electoral vote, and
that's largely been what we've seen in American history. There
have been attempts, but never anything meaningful for a meaningful
period of time. Now we're seeing just the opposite. We're
seeing beginning ten years ago, really with Bernie Sanders running
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for president about Democrat socialists. He's always been upfront about
that and ran for the Democrat nomination, and that was
in twenty sixteen. He took Hillary Clinton to the wire,
and candidly, I think he would have won had it
not been for the Democrats basically rigged system of super
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delegates that gave Hillary Clinton the nomination. But he embedded.
You know, it was clear the energy from that campaign
was all from Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So I think that the Democrats at that point thought
they had kind of nipped it in the bud. I
feel like they were like, Okay, he had this rise.
People felt really good. They got to vote for.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Him, but we didn't let him actually win.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And there was a group of us that kind of
do you remember the Muppets, They had those two guys
that like two guys in the balcony that were reviewing. Yeah,
he was kind of like just a muppet, you know,
just he looked like those guys and crazy hair. He
just kind of came off as this goofball and people
were like, you know what Bernie's done. He has had
this major rise back up. I mean I even thought
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that it was goofy when AOC came out. I'm like,
this old muppet is teaming up with this young woman
and they're never going to get anywhere, but they.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Have right, you know, Tutor, to your point, Bernie Sanders'
success was actually the cause of his demise in twenty twenty,
because if you looked at what happened four years later,
all the candidates running for president, with the exception of
one Joe Biden, were running in Sanders space. So they
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split Sanders vote. Elizabeth Warren, buddhaj Edge, everybody was going
as far left as they could. They were trying to
draft behind Sanders, and they took the air out of him,
and of course that allowed Joe Biden once again to
save the Democratic establishment and come in instead of the
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far left. But as you just mentioned when we saw,
you know, with AOC and twenty eighteen, the energy has
still been there. That is where it is, and we're
continuing to see that. And we just saw that manifestation
earlier this month on election Day, with not just one
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in New York, Old America's largest city, Mondannie winning there.
But we've just seen over the last few days that
Katie Wilson has won in Seattle as well. And so
we have Tweedledum and tweedled d of the Socialist Party
running the left coast and the east coast of the
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United States. We have now two Democrats Socialists mayors in place,
and we're going to have them for the next four years.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, I think the scary thing is that this Gallup
poll just came out says forty two percent of Americans
say they would vote for a socialist for president if
that person were nominated by their political party. So, first,
I think that's scary because I do think that we've
kind of become like entwined, so entwined in our political party,
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our political party is always right that we're just going
to go because it's black and white. The other side
is so bad, we've got to stick with our party.
And now the socialist runs on the two party ticket.
It used to be that if you were running as
a socialist, and you've pointed this out, that you had
to be on a third party ticket, you had no chance.
But sixty three percent of Democrats say they would support
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a socialist candidate. It's not just a nominee like I
will fully support the socialist. Has the Democrat ticket become
the socialist ticket, It's.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well on its way. And I think what you're seeing
now is the fact. And we saw this for four
years with Joe Biden, who was a very very weak
president with a very weak coalition. As we were just discussing,
you know, nobody really wanted Joe Biden. Joe Biden was
everybody's second choice, and as others dropped away, their support
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went behind Biden and hit buoyed him up. But he
came in basically came into office as a weakened president,
and he had no choice but to try to hold
a coalition together. As his administration became less and less popular,
he became more and more dependent on his far left,
and it was very notable. Remember when we were seeing
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him being pushed out of the race in twenty twenty four,
well end of the race, the voices that were not
calling for him were very significant, and those voices were
Bernie Sanders, AOC. The far left was not calling for
Biden to leave the race.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Because they were getting everything they wanted well, and I
think that was very manipulative because and I wonder, do
you think that establishment Democrats had been tricked into the
idea that if they had Joe Biden, he was going
to be a moderate, because something happened once he got in.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I don't know if it's that he didn't know or
that his staff was like, Okay, we're going to just
bring in every agency, we're going to bring in a socialist.
But it seems like they just kind of took over
and the people who thought they were getting the moderate
got someone way worse than what they could have imagined.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Right. I think you're right, And I think again Biden's
weaken state means he could not get rid of anyone
who was supporting him. His support was so weak, and
we are now seeing largely the same thing happening not
just to the Biden administration but to the Democrat Party
as a whole. And we've seen this mom Donnie's candidacy
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is a case in point, as you've noticed, who was
it who came out to support him. Obviously AOC brought
him down to Washington to speak to Congressional Democrats, and
then over time Elizabeth Warren comes out behind it. Finally
Hakeem Jeff comes out behind and the Democrat Party can't
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get rid of their Democrat socialists because this is where
all their energy is and they're a significant number of
their supporters without them, I think they realize that they
don't really have a competitive national party anymore. So they
are more and more dependent on this group, because as
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the rest of their support starts to collapse, they again
become more dependent on this extremist portion.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So from the Republican standpoint, we have been I think
pointing this out. We've been very adamant to come out
and say the Democrats are now socialists.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But is that the right move.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Because if you do end up with a fully socialist
Democrat Party and a two party system, you are trending
towards socialism as a country.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah. I mean, it's obviously there is a risk here
that's involved, But by the same token, I think we
don't do a service to the truth and to the
country to not point out the reality. I mean, it's
so funny that a party that is so believing that
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you can identify yourself as whatever you want and we
have to accept it, is now kind of implicitly saying
that these people who call themselves Democrat socialists, whether it's
a Bernie Sanders, where there's a man Damie, whether it's
Katie Wilson in Seattle, that they're somehow not what they
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call themselves. And yet we're supposed to believe that anyone
else who self identifies as anything they want, we have
to accept that. But we're not supposed to accept something
that they're so upfront about in their political views.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Where does this lead the country?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Though?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It seems as though people were concerned and with Obama
taking us down this path, and it feels like it
started there and then we had kind of this comeback
with Donald Trump, but that pushed us even deeper into
this socialism. Socialism has been I mean, people have been
trying to bring it to the United States for years
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they had some success early on. We staved it off
for a few decades, but now it's really come back.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, I think we can take heart. There are two
truisms I think here. One is that in theory, there's
no greater allure than socialism because it promises something for nothing.
But in practice there's no greater repellent than socialism because
it actually delivers nothing for something. And you know, I
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think we're about to get two case studies in Seattle
and in New York. If these two candidates are what
they say they are and intend to do what they've
promised to do, I think you're going to see this
play out. And in certain respects, while it will not
be good for Seattle, it will not be good for
New York City, it may be good for the rest
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of the country to actually see what we have forgotten
that socialism looks like, because you know, we have an
establishment media that loves to ignore the fact that we
have socialism in the country in the world. You know,
Yet no one wants to really talk about the failure
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that is Cuba, the failure that is Venezuela, the failure
that is North Korea. I mean, these are basket cases
and no one wants to attribute it to their their
political forms, but that's the reality. And I think for
also for a lot of Americans, since the fall of
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the Soviet Union, we haven't had a hot adversary that
was a socialist country, you know now for decades, so
out of sight has been out of mind.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We've seen a lot of this
in Germany where these mayors have taken control of these
cities and they're turning more and more socialists. And then
I mean they've gone very far left. You see this
in the UK where they're going very far left. I
mean they're arresting people who are posting things on Facebook. Now,
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this is this is becoming extremism. How does the United
States differ from a European country. Do we have more
protection because of the way the government is set up,
with the federal government in the States and all of
that is able to suppress these mayors. Because my fear
is we don't just see that these cities collapse. These
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cities kind of expand and we can't tamp them down
over time.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, And I think you make a great point we
do have safety nets here. We have a unique governmental system. Obviously,
we have a constitution that, despite what the left will say,
is still robust, it still offers great protections to not
only to us as citizens, but to our states. The
federal structure is absolutely fantastic because we do get case studies,
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fifty of them in how government can and should work,
or how it can't work and shouldn't work. And we
saw this to a great degree, obviously do during the pandemic,
where we had states that were draconianly shutting down, closing
their schools for untoward periods of time, well beyond anything
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that had any rationale, and yet you had other states
that were doing just the opposite you are you're seeing
in these states. Obviously, we have different tax rates. You know,
we have states that have zero income taxes that are
experiencing huge growth, and we are have states such as
New York and California and New Jersey that have extremely
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high tax rates that are losing populations, They're losing investments.
And again, going back, I think, sadly, if this is
what mom Donnie is planning to do in New York
City and ray is what are already among the highest
tax rates in the country. Even further, you're going to
see more of this, and I think this will put
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an example in front of people's eyes. For those who
have any doubt as to the paucity that is socialism
and the poverty that socialism actually brings, I think they're
going to see it sadly play out, and while other
segments of the country are insulated from it. And I
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do take some hope if we remember way back in
our history in nineteen seventy two, the Democrat Party lurched
extraordinarily for life for that time period with George McGovern
and they suffered a cataclysmic defeat. So there is the
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possibility that we see the same thing. Perhaps the Democrats
continue to do this and they do elevate someone of
this ilk. Obviously it cannot be mom Donnie himself, he
was born in Uganda. But do you nominate someone who's
so far to the left that the country actually just
completely rebels and the Democrat Party has to actually say,
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we have to get our own house in order we
have to purge it of these people who are not
the traditional Democrats that most of the country remembers.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Do you think there's anyone feeling that way in the
Democrat Party right now, that they're fractured and that they
have to cut off the dead weight. I mean, they've
gone pretty extreme. Their socialism is not just about government
program because it's also about changing kids, genders and some
of these radical things. Is that the country as a
whole has pushed back on those radical policies. However, this
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idea of free stuff is, as you said, very alluring.
Is there a way to cut that dead weight if
you're the Democrat Party right now or do you have
to kind of go through this next cycle and see
where it goes.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think we're seeing the purging already. I mean, you
think the two people who basically stood between the country
and even worse Biden policies in the last Congress, and
they were Christen Cinema and they were Joe Manchin. Both
of them have gone. They're left. I mean the party
left them more than they left the party. Obviously we're
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speaking as Republicans and conservatives here, but we also have
a memory there used to be conservative Democrats that you
were opposed on partisan grounds but not philosophical grounds. And
I think as they continued to purge, I mean you
look at right now, at Fetterman from Pennsylvania, he seems
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like he's a lone voice of sanity within his own party,
and obviously his party is turning on him as well.
So I don't know that they are done getting rid
of the people who opposed them. But again, you know,
you go back to nineteen seventy two. They did the
same thing, you know, half a century ago and failed
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so tremendously that it was unignorable, and I think the
same thing could well be on the way for the
Democrats now. You cannot keep building a party on a philosophy,
on the ideological minority. I mean, right now, fifty four
percent of Democrats are liberals, but in the country as
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a whole, only twenty three percent of Americans are liberals.
That's those numbers are from Gallup and from Exit polar.
If you continue to build a party on a ideological minority,
you are moving towards political suicide.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What do you think is the biggest manipulation of this
socialist message, The biggest manipulation and yet the most alluring part.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, I think again, you know it writ large is
that we're going to give you again to look at
back at what mom Donnie has been promising, We're going
to give you free bosses. We're going to give you
government childcare, We're going to give you government housing. We're
going to give you a government grocery store. It's all free, free, free, free. Well,
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as we all know, when something styles too good to
be true, it usually is too good to be true. Sadly,
I think we're going to have to see this play
out that people realize. Anyone whoever wanted to see what
a government run grocery store looks like, go check the
store shelves and Venzuela, go check the store shelves and
North Korea or Cuba, and you'll see what government runs.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
How do we get them to see that?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because people don't actually, I mean a lot of these
people never travel outside of the US, and certainly not
to these areas because you wouldn't travel, I mean, you
can't even go to North Korea, right, so you don't
get the chance to see what the effect of socialism is.
And even though we have people who've come into the
United States from those countries who are saying, whoa, whoa,
you don't want this, it seems like the youth of
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this country is trending toward we want government to be
the biggest employer. We want giant government. Government is going
to take care of us. Government is lovely. How did
this happen?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Right? Well, obviously you look at where those where those
ideologues are coming from, and often they're coming from, sadly,
our elite universities or so called elite universities that have
promised them the same things that live on big endowments,
that don't support themselves, that live off the subsidization of
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donors and trust funds, and I think you see the
same thing. You know, they inculcate that into the people
that they supposedly educate. And back to your question, yes,
they can't go and wouldn't want to go, ironically enough,
to the places where there are government run grocery stores.
But mom Dama is promising to bring government run grocery
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stores to New York. Let's see how that works out.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So if we if we do see and this is
a total disaster, how do you And then this comes
back up because I see this oftentimes with young people
who are even people my own family, who are saying,
you know, you're on the wrong side of this. This
is the future it's never been done right. You've heard
that argument, it's never been done right. What is your
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counter argument to that? I mean, because I think a
lot of people want to say, no, you're crazy. They
just don't have the facts to back it up. I mean,
I know Venezuela and North Korea, but what can you
say to students in the United States to get them
to understand why this doesn't really work there? Where do
you get the funding for all of this? And yeah,
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they'll say, we'll just take it from the billionaires, But
especially in the United States of America, the billionaires are
able to move away from that unless I guess the
idea over time is eventually you take over the entire country,
you become a completely socialist nation. That would mean that
there is really very few There are really very few
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freedoms in the world, because the United States is kind
of like the beacon of freedom, especially for business and entrepreneurship.
And then what happens over time you just have no
billionaires And really people go, oh, we don't want billionaires,
but billionaires are the job creators. That's why we have
so much success in this country. Why is that lost
on people?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, again, I think it's always that sorrow and song
of socialism. That look all the fact, all the facts,
not with standing that it's never worked anywhere, at any time,
in any country, in any continent, we can make it work.
We're that much smarter than the whole rest of humans,
history and experience put together. That, I mean, that's got
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to be your first argument against this of show me
one example where it has worked and hasn't run a
foul of economics and political freedom. I don't know of any.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, then they come back to you and they go,
but this isn't socialism, this is democratic socialism.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well what's the difference.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, I don't think there is. And that's the whole
point once you do what socialism is, and socialism is
really government monopoly's that's what it is all about. It's
monopolizing the economy, taking the means of production. That's what
socialism is, always has been, always will be. And that
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is the road they have to go down because as
their programs fail, they take more and more of the
economy under control. Imagining, if we take the surpluses from
this sector or from another sector, or from that individual
or these individuals, we can fund ourselves for a little
bit longer, and they'll get a little bump as you
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take and use other peoples, but they cannot replicate the
rate of return needed to keep the system going. And
that's what we saw with the Soviet Union. You see
it everywhere. They actually devolved down into basically a little
more than subsistence economies because there is no incentive to produce.
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You take away the money from the billionaires, you take
away the reason for and it's not just the billionaires,
but you take away the incentive for the tutor Dixs
of the world to go to work and work hard
every day and make her version of the surplus that's
added to other peoples. You take that away, and suddenly
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the system grinds to a halt. Because you know, there
used to be the old joke in the Soviet Union
they we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.
And you know that if you ever traveled back there,
you saw it in spades. You know, people going through
the motions, living on black market economies underneath the official economies.
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And of course in the black market economies, that's where
capitalism was actually flourishing as people circumvented the official system
and you're going to see the same thing. You'll see
the same thing replicated. When you take away people's incentive
to work hard, retain what they've earned, and control the
destiny of themselves and their families, they always devolve down
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into this collapse of incentive to do anything at all.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. How capable will Mom Donnie Bee
of bringing true socialist policies into New York City or
will this be stopped by the governor there.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I wouldn't put any hope in Governor Hkel because I
was just reading yesterday that while she had said that
earlier in the campaign that she would prevent tax increases
for New York City, now she was saying that she
was considering tax increases for New York City. So again,
I think the Democrats, and you remember Katie Hokeel is
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Kathy Hokel is running for governor herself. She needs those
eight million votes that are in New York that just
elected Mom Donnie as mayor. She needs those I mean,
look back at what happened in twenty twenty four, Kamala
Harris won New York City by virtually a million votes.
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That was where she racked up, and she didn't do
as well as Democrats have the past, But she also
won New York State by about the same million votes.
So a Democrat to be competitive in New York State
has to have that huge Democrat surpluse. So Hukel is
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not in a position to say she's not going to
support Mom Donnie because she's afraid she'll lose Mom Donnie
supporters in the governatorial election next year.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Wow, So that's scary.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So we may actually see a true socialist experiment in
our largest and probably the world's most important financial city.
We could potentially see this, and then you know, maybe
that's maybe that's what the United States needs as a
wake up call. I think it's a very dangerous wake
up call. We feel it's scary because it could ultimately
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change how the country operates and how the Democrat Party
operates if they see this as a success for the
first two years, it could really impact how the midterms
are and who runs in the midterms, and then ultimately
who's running in twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Right, No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, Tutor, and
I have this certainly is the fear that when you
start to go down this road. And obviously, Mom, Donnie
is a very slick salesman. This is a political neophyte
who managed to knock off the incumbent Democrat mayor and
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then a former Democrat governor. Those are not inconsequential political victory.
So I'm not saying there's a reason that they call
them snake oil sales because they could sell snake oil.
And I think that's what he's done here. Now, whether
he can get people to actually drink this, you know,
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what they've bought, or continue to drink it is a
whole different question. And how far is he really interested?
Has he already attained what he wants he's now mayor
does he really care or did he use this as
a means to get it's the political victory he got,
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and then he can he can always say well, I
wanted to do it, but I was blocked by the
city council, I was blocked by the state legislator. The
governor didn't support. You know, does he look Do you
think a.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Guy like that shrinks back? I think he is. I
think he'd like to be governor. And I want to
ask you about AOC because everybody is saying that Schumer
is concerned about her running for his seat. And that's
the real that's the real conundrum that everybody's in right
now is can you keep Chuck Schumer in his seat?
Or is she going to take the Senate seat? I
think she wants to run for president. Do you think
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that she's looking for the Senate seat or do you
think she's looking for the big White House and everything
that comes along with that.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's a good question, and I would I would never
want to get into AOC's head. I would be so
afraid I wouldn't get out again. And I think I
would find it very lonely in there as well. But
that you know, I would think, in all honesty that
his Chuck Schumer's seat is hers for the taking if
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she wants it. I don't know why she wouldn't. It
would give her a heightened platform, and it would be
the normal political course for most people. Now again, we're
talking about people who call themselves Democrat socialists, and that's
not a normal political course in America. But to leap
frog from being a candidly a backbencher with no real
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governing experience, I mean, she's not chairman of a Committee.
She's you know, she's still a backbencher in the House
of Representatives. That's a leap to run as a presidential candidate.
You just don't see that. I think she could raise money,
and I think she could raise a lot of the engine,
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and she could raise interest. But why not, at her age,
take the next step and move into the Senate And
let's be candid. The Senate is a body of talkers,
I mean, and AOC it was Taylor made for someone
who can get up and talk indefinitely, and I think
she can. So it would be a perfect moving, a
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perfect move for her, rather than to try to jump
in and run for president. But I think you're absolutely right.
I mean, Chuck Schumer's terrified. Oh yeah, And I wouldn't
be surprised if Schumer actually decides as we saw. You know,
Nancy Pelosi has announced her retirement. And if you notice,
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she was challenged months ago by who she was challenged
by a former AOC staffer who's running against her, and
you know, pinpointing her age and that she's out of touch.
And Pelosi, right upon the heels of Mondani winning in
New York, announced her retirement. I think a lot of
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Democrats see the handwriting on the wall. I wouldn't be
surprised that Chuck Schumer does as well. You know, obviously
saying you're not going to run makes you a lame duck.
It would immediately right in him a Senate Minority leader.
So I don't know that he makes that decision that
publicly that soon, but I could easily see where people
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are talking to him, and they're within his camp saying, Chuck,
the numbers just aren't here well, and.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
They I think they really missed the younger generation, and
I blame them for what's happened in the Democrat Party.
Nancy PELUSI wouldn't give up power. She never brought anybody
else in. She thought she could hold the squad at bay.
And you can see almost her holding her hand out
and on their foreheads and having them kind of run
in circles until suddenly she really is too old to
continue to stay.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
In her position.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I mean she's in her eighties. Chuck Schumer is almost eighty.
They have not let anybody else take that power and
step up into a leadership position, and that's their own fault.
So now they have this rise of the twenty and
thirty year olds who are They have been indoctrinated by
these universities. They have been brought into this socialist policy narrative.
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And I think that if you look back, history will
say that ultimately what Nancy Pelosi thought she was protecting
the Democrat Party from, she gave them a wide open
space for socialism to come in and take over her
party because of her own desire for personal power.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I ask.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
People who are listening to this podcast to check out
your book so that they can understand a little bit
more about how this happened. The book again is called
Unprecedented Assault, How big Government unleashed America's socialist left. Where
can they get it?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Well, you can go to the website Jtdashyong dot com.
It will give you all the particulars on the book,
the reviews, which I'm very grateful that have been very
favorable to the book. Obviously, you could order it from
Amazon or any number of places wherever you would buy
your books.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Well, thank you so much, thank you for sharing your
knowledge on socialism with us today. J. T.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Young. It was great talking to you you.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Too, Tutor. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
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You are listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast, and today
we are going to have a lesson in socialism. It
seems like it's time we see it going all across
this country.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And even though you may feel.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Like, oh, this is just in a few mayoral races,
and maybe it was New York City, but it's not
New York State. We actually have an expert here today
to tell us why we should be a little bit
more hyper aware of exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We have JT. Young with us.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
He is a former congressional policy advisor who worked three
decades in and around Congress. But he's also the author
of a new book called Unprecedented Assault. How Big Government
unleashed America's socialists left. This is terrifying. Tell us what
is going on. Thank you for joining me today.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's a pleasure to be here, though I hate to
have to be on this topic. I mean, this truly
is an unprecedented assault. We have never seen anything like
this in American history, and we've been very fortunate that
we haven't, and I think the rest of the world
would be would tell us just how fortunate we are.
(01:05):
But we are now seeing, as you just mentioned in
your preface here, we are seeing people not just running
away from the Democrat socialist label, they're running to that label.
And we haven't seen that, and really well over a century.
Eugene Debs was a perennial or quadrennial socialist candidate for president,
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ran five times, never won a single electoral vote, and
that's largely been what we've seen in American history. There
have been attempts, but never anything meaningful for a meaningful
period of time. Now we're seeing just the opposite. We're
seeing beginning ten years ago, really with Bernie Sanders running
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for president about Democrat socialists. He's always been upfront about
that and ran for the Democrat nomination, and that was
in twenty sixteen. He took Hillary Clinton to the wire,
and candidly, I think he would have won had it
not been for the Democrats basically rigged system of super
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delegates that gave Hillary Clinton the nomination. But he embedded.
You know, it was clear the energy from that campaign
was all from Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So I think that the Democrats at that point thought
they had kind of nipped it in the bud. I
feel like they were like, Okay, he had this rise.
People felt really good. They got to vote for.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Him, but we didn't let him actually win.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And there was a group of us that kind of
do you remember the Muppets, They had those two guys
that like two guys in the balcony that were reviewing. Yeah,
he was kind of like just a muppet, you know,
just he looked like those guys and crazy hair. He
just kind of came off as this goofball and people
were like, you know what Bernie's done. He has had
this major rise back up. I mean I even thought
(03:03):
that it was goofy when AOC came out. I'm like,
this old muppet is teaming up with this young woman
and they're never going to get anywhere, but they.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Have right, you know, Tutor, to your point, Bernie Sanders'
success was actually the cause of his demise in twenty twenty,
because if you looked at what happened four years later,
all the candidates running for president, with the exception of
one Joe Biden, were running in Sanders space. So they
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split Sanders vote. Elizabeth Warren, buddhaj Edge, everybody was going
as far left as they could. They were trying to
draft behind Sanders, and they took the air out of him,
and of course that allowed Joe Biden once again to
save the Democratic establishment and come in instead of the
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far left. But as you just mentioned when we saw,
you know, with AOC and twenty eighteen, the energy has
still been there. That is where it is, and we're
continuing to see that. And we just saw that manifestation
earlier this month on election Day, with not just one
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in New York, Old America's largest city, Mondannie winning there.
But we've just seen over the last few days that
Katie Wilson has won in Seattle as well. And so
we have Tweedledum and tweedled d of the Socialist Party
running the left coast and the east coast of the
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United States. We have now two Democrats Socialists mayors in place,
and we're going to have them for the next four years.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, I think the scary thing is that this Gallup
poll just came out says forty two percent of Americans
say they would vote for a socialist for president if
that person were nominated by their political party. So, first,
I think that's scary because I do think that we've
kind of become like entwined, so entwined in our political party,
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our political party is always right that we're just going
to go because it's black and white. The other side
is so bad, we've got to stick with our party.
And now the socialist runs on the two party ticket.
It used to be that if you were running as
a socialist, and you've pointed this out, that you had
to be on a third party ticket, you had no chance.
But sixty three percent of Democrats say they would support
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a socialist candidate. It's not just a nominee like I
will fully support the socialist. Has the Democrat ticket become
the socialist ticket, It's.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well on its way. And I think what you're seeing
now is the fact. And we saw this for four
years with Joe Biden, who was a very very weak
president with a very weak coalition. As we were just discussing,
you know, nobody really wanted Joe Biden. Joe Biden was
everybody's second choice, and as others dropped away, their support
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went behind Biden and hit buoyed him up. But he
came in basically came into office as a weakened president,
and he had no choice but to try to hold
a coalition together. As his administration became less and less popular,
he became more and more dependent on his far left,
and it was very notable. Remember when we were seeing
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him being pushed out of the race in twenty twenty four,
well end of the race, the voices that were not
calling for him were very significant, and those voices were
Bernie Sanders, AOC. The far left was not calling for
Biden to leave the race.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Because they were getting everything they wanted well, and I
think that was very manipulative because and I wonder, do
you think that establishment Democrats had been tricked into the
idea that if they had Joe Biden, he was going
to be a moderate, because something happened once he got in.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I don't know if it's that he didn't know or
that his staff was like, Okay, we're going to just
bring in every agency, we're going to bring in a socialist.
But it seems like they just kind of took over
and the people who thought they were getting the moderate
got someone way worse than what they could have imagined.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Right. I think you're right, And I think again Biden's
weaken state means he could not get rid of anyone
who was supporting him. His support was so weak, and
we are now seeing largely the same thing happening not
just to the Biden administration but to the Democrat Party
as a whole. And we've seen this mom Donnie's candidacy
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is a case in point, as you've noticed, who was
it who came out to support him. Obviously AOC brought
him down to Washington to speak to Congressional Democrats, and
then over time Elizabeth Warren comes out behind it. Finally
Hakeem Jeff comes out behind and the Democrat Party can't
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get rid of their Democrat socialists because this is where
all their energy is and they're a significant number of
their supporters without them, I think they realize that they
don't really have a competitive national party anymore. So they
are more and more dependent on this group, because as
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the rest of their support starts to collapse, they again
become more dependent on this extremist portion.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So from the Republican standpoint, we have been I think
pointing this out. We've been very adamant to come out
and say the Democrats are now socialists.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But is that the right move.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Because if you do end up with a fully socialist
Democrat Party and a two party system, you are trending
towards socialism as a country.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah. I mean, it's obviously there is a risk here
that's involved, But by the same token, I think we
don't do a service to the truth and to the
country to not point out the reality. I mean, it's
so funny that a party that is so believing that
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you can identify yourself as whatever you want and we
have to accept it, is now kind of implicitly saying
that these people who call themselves Democrat socialists, whether it's
a Bernie Sanders, where there's a man Damie, whether it's
Katie Wilson in Seattle, that they're somehow not what they
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call themselves. And yet we're supposed to believe that anyone
else who self identifies as anything they want, we have
to accept that. But we're not supposed to accept something
that they're so upfront about in their political views.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Where does this lead the country?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Though?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It seems as though people were concerned and with Obama
taking us down this path, and it feels like it
started there and then we had kind of this comeback
with Donald Trump, but that pushed us even deeper into
this socialism. Socialism has been I mean, people have been
trying to bring it to the United States for years
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they had some success early on. We staved it off
for a few decades, but now it's really come back.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Well, I think we can take heart. There are two
truisms I think here. One is that in theory, there's
no greater allure than socialism because it promises something for nothing.
But in practice there's no greater repellent than socialism because
it actually delivers nothing for something. And you know, I
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think we're about to get two case studies in Seattle
and in New York. If these two candidates are what
they say they are and intend to do what they've
promised to do, I think you're going to see this
play out. And in certain respects, while it will not
be good for Seattle, it will not be good for
New York City, it may be good for the rest
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of the country to actually see what we have forgotten
that socialism looks like, because you know, we have an
establishment media that loves to ignore the fact that we
have socialism in the country in the world. You know,
Yet no one wants to really talk about the failure
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that is Cuba, the failure that is Venezuela, the failure
that is North Korea. I mean, these are basket cases
and no one wants to attribute it to their their
political forms, but that's the reality. And I think for
also for a lot of Americans, since the fall of
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the Soviet Union, we haven't had a hot adversary that
was a socialist country, you know now for decades, so
out of sight has been out of mind.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We've seen a lot of this
in Germany where these mayors have taken control of these
cities and they're turning more and more socialists. And then
I mean they've gone very far left. You see this
in the UK where they're going very far left. I
mean they're arresting people who are posting things on Facebook. Now,
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this is this is becoming extremism. How does the United
States differ from a European country. Do we have more
protection because of the way the government is set up,
with the federal government in the States and all of
that is able to suppress these mayors. Because my fear
is we don't just see that these cities collapse. These
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cities kind of expand and we can't tamp them down
over time.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, And I think you make a great point we
do have safety nets here. We have a unique governmental system. Obviously,
we have a constitution that, despite what the left will say,
is still robust, it still offers great protections to not
only to us as citizens, but to our states. The
federal structure is absolutely fantastic because we do get case studies,
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fifty of them in how government can and should work,
or how it can't work and shouldn't work. And we
saw this to a great degree, obviously do during the pandemic,
where we had states that were draconianly shutting down, closing
their schools for untoward periods of time, well beyond anything
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that had any rationale, and yet you had other states
that were doing just the opposite you are you're seeing
in these states. Obviously, we have different tax rates. You know,
we have states that have zero income taxes that are
experiencing huge growth, and we are have states such as
New York and California and New Jersey that have extremely
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high tax rates that are losing populations, They're losing investments.
And again, going back, I think, sadly, if this is
what mom Donnie is planning to do in New York
City and ray is what are already among the highest
tax rates in the country. Even further, you're going to
see more of this, and I think this will put
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an example in front of people's eyes. For those who
have any doubt as to the paucity that is socialism
and the poverty that socialism actually brings, I think they're
going to see it sadly play out, and while other
segments of the country are insulated from it. And I
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do take some hope if we remember way back in
our history in nineteen seventy two, the Democrat Party lurched
extraordinarily for life for that time period with George McGovern
and they suffered a cataclysmic defeat. So there is the
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possibility that we see the same thing. Perhaps the Democrats
continue to do this and they do elevate someone of
this ilk. Obviously it cannot be mom Donnie himself, he
was born in Uganda. But do you nominate someone who's
so far to the left that the country actually just
completely rebels and the Democrat Party has to actually say,
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we have to get our own house in order we
have to purge it of these people who are not
the traditional Democrats that most of the country remembers.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Do you think there's anyone feeling that way in the
Democrat Party right now, that they're fractured and that they
have to cut off the dead weight. I mean, they've
gone pretty extreme. Their socialism is not just about government
program because it's also about changing kids, genders and some
of these radical things. Is that the country as a
whole has pushed back on those radical policies. However, this
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idea of free stuff is, as you said, very alluring.
Is there a way to cut that dead weight if
you're the Democrat Party right now or do you have
to kind of go through this next cycle and see
where it goes.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think we're seeing the purging already. I mean, you
think the two people who basically stood between the country
and even worse Biden policies in the last Congress, and
they were Christen Cinema and they were Joe Manchin. Both
of them have gone. They're left. I mean the party
left them more than they left the party. Obviously we're
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speaking as Republicans and conservatives here, but we also have
a memory there used to be conservative Democrats that you
were opposed on partisan grounds but not philosophical grounds. And
I think as they continued to purge, I mean you
look at right now, at Fetterman from Pennsylvania, he seems
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like he's a lone voice of sanity within his own party,
and obviously his party is turning on him as well.
So I don't know that they are done getting rid
of the people who opposed them. But again, you know,
you go back to nineteen seventy two. They did the
same thing, you know, half a century ago and failed
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so tremendously that it was unignorable, and I think the
same thing could well be on the way for the
Democrats now. You cannot keep building a party on a philosophy,
on the ideological minority. I mean, right now, fifty four
percent of Democrats are liberals, but in the country as
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a whole, only twenty three percent of Americans are liberals.
That's those numbers are from Gallup and from Exit polar.
If you continue to build a party on a ideological minority,
you are moving towards political suicide.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
What do you think is the biggest manipulation of this
socialist message, The biggest manipulation and yet the most alluring part.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well, I think again, you know it writ large is
that we're going to give you again to look at
back at what mom Donnie has been promising, We're going
to give you free bosses. We're going to give you
government childcare, We're going to give you government housing. We're
going to give you a government grocery store. It's all free, free, free, free. Well,
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as we all know, when something styles too good to
be true, it usually is too good to be true. Sadly,
I think we're going to have to see this play
out that people realize. Anyone whoever wanted to see what
a government run grocery store looks like, go check the
store shelves and Venzuela, go check the store shelves and
North Korea or Cuba, and you'll see what government runs.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
How do we get them to see that?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Because people don't actually, I mean a lot of these
people never travel outside of the US, and certainly not
to these areas because you wouldn't travel, I mean, you
can't even go to North Korea, right, so you don't
get the chance to see what the effect of socialism is.
And even though we have people who've come into the
United States from those countries who are saying, whoa, whoa,
you don't want this, it seems like the youth of
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this country is trending toward we want government to be
the biggest employer. We want giant government. Government is going
to take care of us. Government is lovely. How did
this happen?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Right? Well, obviously you look at where those where those
ideologues are coming from, and often they're coming from, sadly,
our elite universities or so called elite universities that have
promised them the same things that live on big endowments,
that don't support themselves, that live off the subsidization of
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donors and trust funds, and I think you see the
same thing. You know, they inculcate that into the people
that they supposedly educate. And back to your question, yes,
they can't go and wouldn't want to go, ironically enough,
to the places where there are government run grocery stores.
But mom Dama is promising to bring government run grocery
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stores to New York. Let's see how that works out.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So if we if we do see and this is
a total disaster, how do you And then this comes
back up because I see this oftentimes with young people
who are even people my own family, who are saying,
you know, you're on the wrong side of this. This
is the future it's never been done right. You've heard
that argument, it's never been done right. What is your
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counter argument to that? I mean, because I think a
lot of people want to say, no, you're crazy. They
just don't have the facts to back it up. I mean,
I know Venezuela and North Korea, but what can you
say to students in the United States to get them
to understand why this doesn't really work there? Where do
you get the funding for all of this? And yeah,
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they'll say, we'll just take it from the billionaires, But
especially in the United States of America, the billionaires are
able to move away from that unless I guess the
idea over time is eventually you take over the entire country,
you become a completely socialist nation. That would mean that
there is really very few There are really very few
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freedoms in the world, because the United States is kind
of like the beacon of freedom, especially for business and entrepreneurship.
And then what happens over time you just have no
billionaires And really people go, oh, we don't want billionaires,
but billionaires are the job creators. That's why we have
so much success in this country. Why is that lost
on people?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, again, I think it's always that sorrow and song
of socialism. That look all the fact, all the facts,
not with standing that it's never worked anywhere, at any time,
in any country, in any continent, we can make it work.
We're that much smarter than the whole rest of humans,
history and experience put together. That, I mean, that's got
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to be your first argument against this of show me
one example where it has worked and hasn't run a
foul of economics and political freedom. I don't know of any.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, then they come back to you and they go,
but this isn't socialism, this is democratic socialism.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Well what's the difference.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, I don't think there is. And that's the whole
point once you do what socialism is, and socialism is
really government monopoly's that's what it is all about. It's
monopolizing the economy, taking the means of production. That's what
socialism is, always has been, always will be. And that
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is the road they have to go down because as
their programs fail, they take more and more of the
economy under control. Imagining, if we take the surpluses from
this sector or from another sector, or from that individual
or these individuals, we can fund ourselves for a little
bit longer, and they'll get a little bump as you
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take and use other peoples, but they cannot replicate the
rate of return needed to keep the system going. And
that's what we saw with the Soviet Union. You see
it everywhere. They actually devolved down into basically a little
more than subsistence economies because there is no incentive to produce.
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You take away the money from the billionaires, you take
away the reason for and it's not just the billionaires,
but you take away the incentive for the tutor Dixs
of the world to go to work and work hard
every day and make her version of the surplus that's
added to other peoples. You take that away, and suddenly
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the system grinds to a halt. Because you know, there
used to be the old joke in the Soviet Union
they we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.
And you know that if you ever traveled back there,
you saw it in spades. You know, people going through
the motions, living on black market economies underneath the official economies.
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And of course in the black market economies, that's where
capitalism was actually flourishing as people circumvented the official system
and you're going to see the same thing. You'll see
the same thing replicated. When you take away people's incentive
to work hard, retain what they've earned, and control the
destiny of themselves and their families, they always devolve down
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into this collapse of incentive to do anything at all.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. How capable will Mom Donnie Bee
of bringing true socialist policies into New York City or
will this be stopped by the governor there.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I wouldn't put any hope in Governor Hkel because I
was just reading yesterday that while she had said that
earlier in the campaign that she would prevent tax increases
for New York City, now she was saying that she
was considering tax increases for New York City. So again,
I think the Democrats, and you remember Katie Hokeel is
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Kathy Hokel is running for governor herself. She needs those
eight million votes that are in New York that just
elected Mom Donnie as mayor. She needs those I mean,
look back at what happened in twenty twenty four, Kamala
Harris won New York City by virtually a million votes.
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That was where she racked up, and she didn't do
as well as Democrats have the past, But she also
won New York State by about the same million votes.
So a Democrat to be competitive in New York State
has to have that huge Democrat surpluse. So Hukel is
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not in a position to say she's not going to
support Mom Donnie because she's afraid she'll lose Mom Donnie
supporters in the governatorial election next year.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Wow, So that's scary.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
So we may actually see a true socialist experiment in
our largest and probably the world's most important financial city.
We could potentially see this, and then you know, maybe
that's maybe that's what the United States needs as a
wake up call. I think it's a very dangerous wake
up call. We feel it's scary because it could ultimately
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change how the country operates and how the Democrat Party
operates if they see this as a success for the
first two years, it could really impact how the midterms
are and who runs in the midterms, and then ultimately
who's running in twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Right, No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, Tutor, and
I have this certainly is the fear that when you
start to go down this road. And obviously, Mom, Donnie
is a very slick salesman. This is a political neophyte
who managed to knock off the incumbent Democrat mayor and
(27:27):
then a former Democrat governor. Those are not inconsequential political victory.
So I'm not saying there's a reason that they call
them snake oil sales because they could sell snake oil.
And I think that's what he's done here. Now, whether
he can get people to actually drink this, you know,
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what they've bought, or continue to drink it is a
whole different question. And how far is he really interested?
Has he already attained what he wants he's now mayor
does he really care or did he use this as
a means to get it's the political victory he got,
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and then he can he can always say well, I
wanted to do it, but I was blocked by the
city council, I was blocked by the state legislator. The
governor didn't support. You know, does he look Do you
think a.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Guy like that shrinks back? I think he is. I
think he'd like to be governor. And I want to
ask you about AOC because everybody is saying that Schumer
is concerned about her running for his seat. And that's
the real that's the real conundrum that everybody's in right
now is can you keep Chuck Schumer in his seat?
Or is she going to take the Senate seat? I
think she wants to run for president. Do you think
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that she's looking for the Senate seat or do you
think she's looking for the big White House and everything
that comes along with that.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's a good question, and I would I would never
want to get into AOC's head. I would be so
afraid I wouldn't get out again. And I think I
would find it very lonely in there as well. But
that you know, I would think, in all honesty that
his Chuck Schumer's seat is hers for the taking if
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she wants it. I don't know why she wouldn't. It
would give her a heightened platform, and it would be
the normal political course for most people. Now again, we're
talking about people who call themselves Democrat socialists, and that's
not a normal political course in America. But to leap
frog from being a candidly a backbencher with no real
(29:38):
governing experience, I mean, she's not chairman of a Committee.
She's you know, she's still a backbencher in the House
of Representatives. That's a leap to run as a presidential candidate.
You just don't see that. I think she could raise money,
and I think she could raise a lot of the engine,
(30:00):
and she could raise interest. But why not, at her age,
take the next step and move into the Senate And
let's be candid. The Senate is a body of talkers,
I mean, and AOC it was Taylor made for someone
who can get up and talk indefinitely, and I think
she can. So it would be a perfect moving, a
(30:23):
perfect move for her, rather than to try to jump
in and run for president. But I think you're absolutely right.
I mean, Chuck Schumer's terrified. Oh yeah, And I wouldn't
be surprised if Schumer actually decides as we saw. You know,
Nancy Pelosi has announced her retirement. And if you notice,
(30:46):
she was challenged months ago by who she was challenged
by a former AOC staffer who's running against her, and
you know, pinpointing her age and that she's out of touch.
And Pelosi, right upon the heels of Mondani winning in
New York, announced her retirement. I think a lot of
(31:08):
Democrats see the handwriting on the wall. I wouldn't be
surprised that Chuck Schumer does as well. You know, obviously
saying you're not going to run makes you a lame duck.
It would immediately right in him a Senate Minority leader.
So I don't know that he makes that decision that
publicly that soon, but I could easily see where people
(31:28):
are talking to him, and they're within his camp saying, Chuck,
the numbers just aren't here well, and.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
They I think they really missed the younger generation, and
I blame them for what's happened in the Democrat Party.
Nancy PELUSI wouldn't give up power. She never brought anybody
else in. She thought she could hold the squad at bay.
And you can see almost her holding her hand out
and on their foreheads and having them kind of run
in circles until suddenly she really is too old to
continue to stay.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
In her position.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I mean she's in her eighties. Chuck Schumer is almost eighty.
They have not let anybody else take that power and
step up into a leadership position, and that's their own fault.
So now they have this rise of the twenty and
thirty year olds who are They have been indoctrinated by
these universities. They have been brought into this socialist policy narrative.
(32:18):
And I think that if you look back, history will
say that ultimately what Nancy Pelosi thought she was protecting
the Democrat Party from, she gave them a wide open
space for socialism to come in and take over her
party because of her own desire for personal power.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I ask.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
People who are listening to this podcast to check out
your book so that they can understand a little bit
more about how this happened. The book again is called
Unprecedented Assault, How big Government unleashed America's socialist left. Where
can they get it?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Well, you can go to the website Jtdashyong dot com.
It will give you all the particulars on the book,
the reviews, which I'm very grateful that have been very
favorable to the book. Obviously, you could order it from
Amazon or any number of places wherever you would buy
your books.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Well, thank you so much, thank you for sharing your
knowledge on socialism with us today. J. T.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Young. It was great talking to you you.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Too, Tutor. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Thank you and thank you all for listening to the
Tutor Dixon podcast. Make sure you head over to the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts
to listen again, and you can also watch the full
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