In this episode, Tudor Dixon and David Rutherford discuss significant political and military events, including President Trump's birthday celebration, the state of the U.S. military, Israel's recent military actions against Iran, and the implications of geopolitical alliances. They emphasize the importance of honoring military service, the potential threats posed by Iran, and the shifting dynamics of global power, particularly in relation to China and Russia. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, Happy Saturday, everybody. We are sort of combining shows here.
You've got the Tutor Dixon Podcast and the David Rutherford
Show here together this morning. We are gathering together because
we want to talk about everything. But I think first
and foremost, we have to say happy flag Day and
happy birthday, mister President.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Who do you think, Oh? Absolutely, man. Anybody that's made
it to his age seventy nine years old and after
two assassination attempts trying to ruin him for eight years,
that man deserves a hell of a party today.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
For sure, and he is going to have one, which
I wanted to talk to you about because there's been
some controversy. People have come out and said he shouldn't
be doing this, and I wanted your opinion because I
think about this and I think our military has been
so destroyed over the past four years. The Biden administration
was so terrible to our military. There was no celebration,
(00:58):
but it wasn't even that. It was that they were humiliated.
They were fired for not taking a vaccine. It was diminished.
They were told that they were better off if they
were trans than if they were out there fighting. I mean,
it was the woke involvement in the military was insane.
I think that to me, this is a really significant
(01:18):
move for President Trump to say we love you, we
honor you, we respect you, we think that you're incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh absolutely. I mean, you know, I served under three
different presidents, right. I served under Clinton in the late
nineties when I was in the Seal Teams. I served
under you know, George Bush Junior at during nine to eleven,
post nine to eleven, and for black when I was
at Blackwater. And then I served under Obama when I
(01:47):
was at the Central Intelligence Agency, and you know, at
Clinton days, we had zero money for training, right, and
then after nine to eleven, the Golden Conics box opened
up and we established ourselves and our supreme dominance and
control over different areas in the world. And one of
the things that always kind of got me was, how
(02:09):
come we don't do the giant military parades. Why don't
we flex on the world stage like that? Now, some
people say you flex enough by all the different conflicts
you're engaging, But I just think when you flex it
for America in terms of that capacity, it really continues
to build morale, which is at an all time high
because of Pete and his crew at Pentagon, but it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Was at an all time low. And I think that's
the important thing for people to understand. Because you come
from this world, you are a Navy cel, you understand
what this means. I've watched so many people say, Man,
we feel like we were crap down. We feel like
we've been less than We feel like we haven't been
taken care of. And people are mad about the price
tag and they're mad about they say that this is
(02:53):
something that is dictatorial. It's not about President Trump at all.
It is about honoring the men and women who I.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Agree, and it's also honoring the American public. Right. One
of the things that has traditionally been the most unifying
component is the underlying ideology behind meritocracy in the military.
You can go in the military and you can thrive
if you meet a standard, if you orient yourself at
the highest level in teamwork, if you participate in a
(03:24):
selfless way towards the benefits of the American people. Right.
So it's also to paying tribute to that heritage. And
in a time where a majority of our institutions are
really in question right now, I think it's a good
thing to bring back the status of the US military
and its might.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I want to get into Israel because we are
yesterday there was an attack. I guess it was really
for us. It was Thursday night, it was throughout the
night and into Friday morning. We are watching as Israel
bombed what was it seven targets in Iran.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was quite a few. The biggest thing was the
people they took out. Right, you had the Supreme Commander,
the second highest commander, you had the head of the
aerospace unit, and then you had three major nuclear scientists
that were taken out. So and then then Tod's facility
(04:25):
was significantly impacted. Now what that battle damage report is,
we don't have conclusive evidence yet, but we do know
that the strategic nature was a mission success.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So I was telling you I was on Newsmax this
morning and I was kind of taken by surprise because
there's like, oh, there's these MAGA influencers who are not
happy with the president over this, and I'm like, what
in the what is happening. First of all, this was
Israel's choice. They decided to do this. They suffered a
horrific attack on October seventh, and I think that people
(05:02):
cannot forget that the number of people who died in
Israel on October seventh would be the equivalent the equivalent
of like thirty thousand Americans dying. Do you think that
if that happened on US soil, which it could, based
on the fact that we've had open borders and we
don't know who's in this country, that America would stand
by and do nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, No, America didn't stand by. It happened on nine
to eleven. I mean, when you look at the combined
impact of not only the people who died that day,
but the effects of the cancer and the impact on
the cleanup reports suicides that I mean, that's a significant number.
And as a result, what did we do? We went
(05:43):
to war for essentially twenty years, right. I think what
you're having is you're having a backlash because the president
ran on a whole position of peace and he said
that this I am going to be the president of
all time piece, no mayor nore, no more conflicts, no
more wars. And I think what a lot of these
(06:05):
people who believe that, in particular a large group of
my generation of g Watt fighters, you know, they don't
they they they went over and now what we know
about what Iraq and why we went, you know, that's questionable.
And so I think what people are backlashing at is
to say, hey, you said one thing, and now there's
something else. Now it was It did come out that
(06:27):
Rubio said that America did not participate in this in
any capacity. This was an independent UH operation conducted what
was it was called Operation Right Raising Lion and Rising Lion.
And you know, I think what you have is a
very destabilized region, and what people are afraid of is
(06:50):
that it continues to destabilize in somehow, some way, We're
going to find ourselves UH in another hot war in
the Middle East. And I think that's where the pushback
is coming from.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, this is not a region that I mean, it's
not like the United States and Donald Trump has been negotiating.
He said he'd give him sixty days and he wanted
them to nuclearize. We know that there's weapons there. I mean,
I know, you talk about going in for a rock,
going into a rock. The weapons of mass destruction may
(07:22):
not have actually been there, but we know that they
are working on nuclear weapons. We know they have nuclear sites.
We know that Israel believes that they would be the target.
And it's not as though they've hidden this. I mean
the Ayahtola and the Supreme Leader whatever he is, he's
out there tweeting every day that he wants to take
them out, the Zionist regime, that's what he calls them.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, it's not just he's not just profess taken out Israel,
but he's professed taking out America American interest as well.
And they do have a significant arsenal. You know, the
last reports from the Atomic Energy Agency reports that they're
at about sixty percent uranium capacity, very easily taking that
up to ninety with a stockpile about two hundred and
(08:09):
seventy four kilograms and up to which could drive up
to ninety two and that's enough further to and rich
about ten nuclear bombs. Now. You know, when I was
at Blackwater back in the day, I worked on a
project where we were helping to design a kind of
a reconnaissance maritime reconnaissance thing out of Azerbijan in conjunction
(08:32):
with their military to observe Russian and Iranian ships going
back and forth in the CASPI and c and so
this is and if you really want to dig deep,
go back you and you read the former reports on
aq Khan, which was the person who really started global
nuclear proliferation by selling Pakistan's nuclear secrets all over the place,
(08:56):
many of which went to Iran, which really began their
robust nuclear capacity and development. Now, the other aspect is
you have to understand what i RAN's delivery systems are right,
and so you've got a ballistic arsenal like the Shabab three,
which can carry nuclear warheads with ranges up to two
(09:17):
thousand kilometers covering Israel and US bases in Iraq, Quitar
and beyond. You know, when you start to think about
the magnitude and some people say they have, you know,
like three to four thousand of these missiles. I try
to do a deep dive in research on how many
drones they have right with long range capacity, and it
(09:40):
just couldn't couldn't. It didn't even It was like they
have thousands of different types of drones that have up
to seven hundred kilometer range. Right now. The last little
point that I want to put out toutor is that
if you don't think that American personnel are in jeopardy,
then think again. Rough estimates there are somewhere between fifty
(10:01):
and around forty five to fifty thousand troops in the
Middle East, with main bases right in Katar, main bases
in Bahrain and Kuwait and Iraq. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I want to stop you for a second, because think
about how significant that statement is that you just made.
When the person who was running against Donald Trump said, well,
we don't have anybody out there right now.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That video killed me man. The members the Marines, and
they turn around, they're like, what do we Yeah, And
that's the thing I think also that the American public
in the backlash is trying to say, hey, listen, you know,
we have to be careful as this thing escalates. Right,
And yes, Israel is every day at an existential reality
(10:47):
for sure. Hands down. What I find interesting is some
of the immediate responses from the Egyptians, from the Turks,
from you know, all the surrounding areas which have come
out and said this is bull Israel have the right,
it's unprovoked, all of that. And so you know, for me,
what I'm praying for is peace across the board always.
(11:08):
I don't want to see any more US personnel. I
don't want to see any more Israelis killed, you know,
and but you know, there's also a significant number of
civilians that have been annihilated in the in the Middle
East in the last twenty four twenty five years as well.
So what hopefully the strikes were so profound that they
had a deeply impactful thing and really set the Iranian
(11:34):
nuclear program back by let's call it, let's twenty years
or more.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Do you think it sets them back militarily? But I mean,
if I'm looking at this as I am from the
United States, and I go, okay, they they poked the bear.
There's no question the bear was poked, and they're very angry.
We are being told by experts that it usually takes
a few weeks for iron to react to this, to
(12:00):
something like this. What kind of weapons did I mean?
Did they hit enough to really damage them? Or is
this something that is going to become very ugly?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, it absolutely is. I mean they responded with immediate
one hundred drones and response. And don't forget you know,
there was an attack on October first of twenty twenty
four where they launched about two hundred ballistic missiles in
two ways, targeting sites in Israel. Right now, is operation
true promise? The second so they're going to respond. There's
(12:31):
no doubt. They've already said it. They're going to respond significantly.
They've said they're going to respond to a US military
bases to the which you know, Trump you know, obviously
set up if you attack our bases, We're going to
drop the hammer on you, as he should for sure. Uh.
The question that I would you really have to think about.
And this is the strategic initiative that is really I
(12:53):
think a component that is the scariest for me. You know,
what was it last year, the year before I ran
did a four one hundred billion dollar oil deal with China.
Right if now all of a sudden in China and
futures commodities, you know, oil prices went up about one
percent globally just today. Now, if that continues to rise,
it's going to have an impact on China's ability to
(13:16):
potentially get their oil, which then they could facilitate what
UH supersonic missiles into into Iran because they have a
direct route that comes through Afghanistan into UH into Herad
and into Iran, so they can supply missiles. H. I
certainly Russia has the capacity to supply arms and missile
(13:39):
missile systems as well too, So you know what you're
looking at is a global escalation potentially.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I will say there. I want to just say when
when I was campaigning, I met with a few different
generals and we were talking about the impact of China
back then, and they said, You've got to understand, Americans
see this as dealing with a world leader similar to
the president of the United States. But that's not the culture.
That's not how they think that death and war and
(14:10):
all those things. They see it very differently. They are radicals.
I think. I want to go back to what you
said about people being upset because Donald Trump said he
would be the no war president. He came in and
he said, I'm going to negotiate with Putin. He has
come out and he's been totally honest with the American people.
He's doing things I don't like. He's not negotiating. This
(14:30):
is a problem. Same situation with Iran right now. But
this is to me on the outside looking in. Obviously
I'm not in these conversations. I see this connection between
Iran and China. I see the connection between China and Russia.
This isn't looking great.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, And you know, the one thing that we always
had going for him. And there's a couple of great
military people have written some incredible books. There was an
author Graham, who wrote a book about you know, China's
in terms of their militaristic and economic prowess against American
might and what that conflict in the future would would
(15:09):
look like. But what what what you have is you
don't want to drive all of these people together. And
that's what we saw with the New Bricks Alliance, right
and and them trying to start their own currency and
their own uh market, uh community, and and and that
creates a major shift in our what global prowess. Economically,
(15:32):
certainly militaristically, we're the most dominant military on the planet.
Nobody's even closed right now. China is you know, producing
what Seawn. You know, my best friend Seawan had a
guy on recently, a former Navy Seal Team six guy
who's getting contracts to build autonomous like drone boats for
the US military, And and the numbers that he was
(15:54):
rattling off were staggering how rapidly China's military is improving.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Their navy is the largest in the world when it
comes to battleships, and I mean they're not trained like ours,
and their equipment is not the same as ours, so
you need to understand the difference. But they are larger,
and they are their ports are getting ever closer to
the United States, and that's that is the caution that
we have been talking about for years, and it's something
(16:19):
that people don't really want to talk about. I think
it's also important to note that this situation with Putin
and China, remember what was it was it twenty three
or twenty two when they came together and they said
they're looking for a new world order. The future will
be different with them together. Joe Biden was allowing I
(16:40):
don't know if he was not there or what it was,
but whatever, the administration was allowing this.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Lincoln for sure, yeah, for sure, I'm with you. I agree,
you know, and I think as you if when you
start to look at strategic global alliances, obviously America and
Israel have been tied at the hip from night teen sixties,
and probably even you could go back from nineteen forty
eight with Israel's inception, right and even before that you
(17:07):
could argue as well. You know, I think what you
have is you have two things taking place right now.
You have a shift and militaristic and global powers taking
place between the unification of Russia and China Iran in
(17:27):
South Africa, right and you have also a glowing rise
in socialism that's kind of sweeping the world as well too.
Look at South America right now, pretty much the only
democracy down there is Paraguay. So I think what's happening
is there's a shift, there's a paradigm shift. So what
(17:49):
do you do. You have to reestablish your military might
in those moments, and I think that's what's taking place
right now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, we will see how this weekend goes. We'll see
what goes on today. We again wish the President a
very happy birthday. Today, we wanted to get to what's
happening with the whole What are these riots called again
the no Kings protests, which we know we're going to
be riots. We're going to follow those throughout the weekend.
So I would love to get together again next week
(18:17):
and we can talk about those. So we'll try to
plan that. But I also want to say to everybody
who's listening, if you liked this, leave us some comments,
let us know that you liked this, and we can
try to continue putting something like this together for you.
So it's a combination of the David Rutherford Show and
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We'll both put it out. You
can find us anywhere you get your podcasts. We're both
(18:38):
in the Clay and Buck podcast network on iHeart. So
I appreciate you all listening to us. And I don't know, David,
if there's anything else you want to add about where
people can find it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Same thing, you know, all podcast areas, all social media
at David Rutherford's show, same same and Tutor. I just
it's such a privilege coming on with you. I really
enjoy our converse stations. And uh, let's just hope this
gets it doesn't escalate.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yep, we'll keep well, we will keep praying all weekend,
and we'll just keep everybody over there in Israel in
the Middle East in our prayers and thank you all
for listening, and hope we all have a bleased weekend.
Well, Happy Saturday, everybody. We are sort of combining shows here.
You've got the Tutor Dixon Podcast and the David Rutherford
Show here together this morning. We are gathering together because
we want to talk about everything. But I think first
and foremost, we have to say happy flag Day and
happy birthday, mister President.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Who do you think, Oh? Absolutely, man. Anybody that's made
it to his age seventy nine years old and after
two assassination attempts trying to ruin him for eight years,
that man deserves a hell of a party today.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
For sure, and he is going to have one, which
I wanted to talk to you about because there's been
some controversy. People have come out and said he shouldn't
be doing this, and I wanted your opinion because I
think about this and I think our military has been
so destroyed over the past four years. The Biden administration
was so terrible to our military. There was no celebration,
(00:58):
but it wasn't even that. It was that they were humiliated.
They were fired for not taking a vaccine. It was diminished.
They were told that they were better off if they
were trans than if they were out there fighting. I mean,
it was the woke involvement in the military was insane.
I think that to me, this is a really significant
(01:18):
move for President Trump to say we love you, we
honor you, we respect you, we think that you're incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh absolutely. I mean, you know, I served under three
different presidents, right. I served under Clinton in the late
nineties when I was in the Seal Teams. I served
under you know, George Bush Junior at during nine to eleven,
post nine to eleven, and for black when I was
at Blackwater. And then I served under Obama when I
(01:47):
was at the Central Intelligence Agency, and you know, at
Clinton days, we had zero money for training, right, and
then after nine to eleven, the Golden Conics box opened
up and we established ourselves and our supreme dominance and
control over different areas in the world. And one of
the things that always kind of got me was, how
(02:09):
come we don't do the giant military parades. Why don't
we flex on the world stage like that? Now, some
people say you flex enough by all the different conflicts
you're engaging, But I just think when you flex it
for America in terms of that capacity, it really continues
to build morale, which is at an all time high
because of Pete and his crew at Pentagon, but it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Was at an all time low. And I think that's
the important thing for people to understand. Because you come
from this world, you are a Navy cel, you understand
what this means. I've watched so many people say, Man,
we feel like we were crap down. We feel like
we've been less than We feel like we haven't been
taken care of. And people are mad about the price
tag and they're mad about they say that this is
(02:53):
something that is dictatorial. It's not about President Trump at all.
It is about honoring the men and women who I.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Agree, and it's also honoring the American public. Right. One
of the things that has traditionally been the most unifying
component is the underlying ideology behind meritocracy in the military.
You can go in the military and you can thrive
if you meet a standard, if you orient yourself at
the highest level in teamwork, if you participate in a
(03:24):
selfless way towards the benefits of the American people. Right.
So it's also to paying tribute to that heritage. And
in a time where a majority of our institutions are
really in question right now, I think it's a good
thing to bring back the status of the US military
and its might.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
So I want to get into Israel because we are
yesterday there was an attack. I guess it was really
for us. It was Thursday night, it was throughout the
night and into Friday morning. We are watching as Israel
bombed what was it seven targets in Iran.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was quite a few. The biggest thing was the
people they took out. Right, you had the Supreme Commander,
the second highest commander, you had the head of the
aerospace unit, and then you had three major nuclear scientists
that were taken out. So and then then Tod's facility
(04:25):
was significantly impacted. Now what that battle damage report is,
we don't have conclusive evidence yet, but we do know
that the strategic nature was a mission success.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So I was telling you I was on Newsmax this
morning and I was kind of taken by surprise because
there's like, oh, there's these MAGA influencers who are not
happy with the president over this, and I'm like, what
in the what is happening. First of all, this was
Israel's choice. They decided to do this. They suffered a
horrific attack on October seventh, and I think that people
(05:02):
cannot forget that the number of people who died in
Israel on October seventh would be the equivalent the equivalent
of like thirty thousand Americans dying. Do you think that
if that happened on US soil, which it could, based
on the fact that we've had open borders and we
don't know who's in this country, that America would stand
by and do nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, No, America didn't stand by. It happened on nine
to eleven. I mean, when you look at the combined
impact of not only the people who died that day,
but the effects of the cancer and the impact on
the cleanup reports suicides that I mean, that's a significant number.
And as a result, what did we do? We went
(05:43):
to war for essentially twenty years, right. I think what
you're having is you're having a backlash because the president
ran on a whole position of peace and he said
that this I am going to be the president of
all time piece, no mayor nore, no more conflicts, no
more wars. And I think what a lot of these
(06:05):
people who believe that, in particular a large group of
my generation of g Watt fighters, you know, they don't
they they they went over and now what we know
about what Iraq and why we went, you know, that's questionable.
And so I think what people are backlashing at is
to say, hey, you said one thing, and now there's
something else. Now it was It did come out that
(06:27):
Rubio said that America did not participate in this in
any capacity. This was an independent UH operation conducted what
was it was called Operation Right Raising Lion and Rising Lion.
And you know, I think what you have is a
very destabilized region, and what people are afraid of is
(06:50):
that it continues to destabilize in somehow, some way, We're
going to find ourselves UH in another hot war in
the Middle East. And I think that's where the pushback
is coming from.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, this is not a region that I mean, it's
not like the United States and Donald Trump has been negotiating.
He said he'd give him sixty days and he wanted
them to nuclearize. We know that there's weapons there. I mean,
I know, you talk about going in for a rock,
going into a rock. The weapons of mass destruction may
(07:22):
not have actually been there, but we know that they
are working on nuclear weapons. We know they have nuclear sites.
We know that Israel believes that they would be the target.
And it's not as though they've hidden this. I mean
the Ayahtola and the Supreme Leader whatever he is, he's
out there tweeting every day that he wants to take
them out, the Zionist regime, that's what he calls them.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, it's not just he's not just profess taken out Israel,
but he's professed taking out America American interest as well.
And they do have a significant arsenal. You know, the
last reports from the Atomic Energy Agency reports that they're
at about sixty percent uranium capacity, very easily taking that
up to ninety with a stockpile about two hundred and
(08:09):
seventy four kilograms and up to which could drive up
to ninety two and that's enough further to and rich
about ten nuclear bombs. Now. You know, when I was
at Blackwater back in the day, I worked on a
project where we were helping to design a kind of
a reconnaissance maritime reconnaissance thing out of Azerbijan in conjunction
(08:32):
with their military to observe Russian and Iranian ships going
back and forth in the CASPI and c and so
this is and if you really want to dig deep,
go back you and you read the former reports on
aq Khan, which was the person who really started global
nuclear proliferation by selling Pakistan's nuclear secrets all over the place,
(08:56):
many of which went to Iran, which really began their
robust nuclear capacity and development. Now, the other aspect is
you have to understand what i RAN's delivery systems are right,
and so you've got a ballistic arsenal like the Shabab three,
which can carry nuclear warheads with ranges up to two
(09:17):
thousand kilometers covering Israel and US bases in Iraq, Quitar
and beyond. You know, when you start to think about
the magnitude and some people say they have, you know,
like three to four thousand of these missiles. I try
to do a deep dive in research on how many
drones they have right with long range capacity, and it
(09:40):
just couldn't couldn't. It didn't even It was like they
have thousands of different types of drones that have up
to seven hundred kilometer range. Right now. The last little
point that I want to put out toutor is that
if you don't think that American personnel are in jeopardy,
then think again. Rough estimates there are somewhere between fifty
(10:01):
and around forty five to fifty thousand troops in the
Middle East, with main bases right in Katar, main bases
in Bahrain and Kuwait and Iraq. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I want to stop you for a second, because think
about how significant that statement is that you just made.
When the person who was running against Donald Trump said, well,
we don't have anybody out there right now.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That video killed me man. The members the Marines, and
they turn around, they're like, what do we Yeah, And
that's the thing I think also that the American public
in the backlash is trying to say, hey, listen, you know,
we have to be careful as this thing escalates. Right,
And yes, Israel is every day at an existential reality
(10:47):
for sure. Hands down. What I find interesting is some
of the immediate responses from the Egyptians, from the Turks,
from you know, all the surrounding areas which have come
out and said this is bull Israel have the right,
it's unprovoked, all of that. And so you know, for me,
what I'm praying for is peace across the board always.
(11:08):
I don't want to see any more US personnel. I
don't want to see any more Israelis killed, you know,
and but you know, there's also a significant number of
civilians that have been annihilated in the in the Middle
East in the last twenty four twenty five years as well.
So what hopefully the strikes were so profound that they
had a deeply impactful thing and really set the Iranian
(11:34):
nuclear program back by let's call it, let's twenty years
or more.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Do you think it sets them back militarily? But I mean,
if I'm looking at this as I am from the
United States, and I go, okay, they they poked the bear.
There's no question the bear was poked, and they're very angry.
We are being told by experts that it usually takes
a few weeks for iron to react to this, to
(12:00):
something like this. What kind of weapons did I mean?
Did they hit enough to really damage them? Or is
this something that is going to become very ugly?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, it absolutely is. I mean they responded with immediate
one hundred drones and response. And don't forget you know,
there was an attack on October first of twenty twenty
four where they launched about two hundred ballistic missiles in
two ways, targeting sites in Israel. Right now, is operation
true promise? The second so they're going to respond. There's
(12:31):
no doubt. They've already said it. They're going to respond significantly.
They've said they're going to respond to a US military
bases to the which you know, Trump you know, obviously
set up if you attack our bases, We're going to
drop the hammer on you, as he should for sure. Uh.
The question that I would you really have to think about.
And this is the strategic initiative that is really I
(12:53):
think a component that is the scariest for me. You know,
what was it last year, the year before I ran
did a four one hundred billion dollar oil deal with China.
Right if now all of a sudden in China and
futures commodities, you know, oil prices went up about one
percent globally just today. Now, if that continues to rise,
it's going to have an impact on China's ability to
(13:16):
potentially get their oil, which then they could facilitate what
UH supersonic missiles into into Iran because they have a
direct route that comes through Afghanistan into UH into Herad
and into Iran, so they can supply missiles. H. I
certainly Russia has the capacity to supply arms and missile
(13:39):
missile systems as well too, So you know what you're
looking at is a global escalation potentially.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I will say there. I want to just say when
when I was campaigning, I met with a few different
generals and we were talking about the impact of China
back then, and they said, You've got to understand, Americans
see this as dealing with a world leader similar to
the president of the United States. But that's not the culture.
That's not how they think that death and war and
(14:10):
all those things. They see it very differently. They are radicals.
I think. I want to go back to what you
said about people being upset because Donald Trump said he
would be the no war president. He came in and
he said, I'm going to negotiate with Putin. He has
come out and he's been totally honest with the American people.
He's doing things I don't like. He's not negotiating. This
(14:30):
is a problem. Same situation with Iran right now. But
this is to me on the outside looking in. Obviously
I'm not in these conversations. I see this connection between
Iran and China. I see the connection between China and Russia.
This isn't looking great.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, And you know, the one thing that we always
had going for him. And there's a couple of great
military people have written some incredible books. There was an
author Graham, who wrote a book about you know, China's
in terms of their militaristic and economic prowess against American
might and what that conflict in the future would would
(15:09):
look like. But what what what you have is you
don't want to drive all of these people together. And
that's what we saw with the New Bricks Alliance, right
and and them trying to start their own currency and
their own uh market, uh community, and and and that
creates a major shift in our what global prowess. Economically,
(15:32):
certainly militaristically, we're the most dominant military on the planet.
Nobody's even closed right now. China is you know, producing
what Seawn. You know, my best friend Seawan had a
guy on recently, a former Navy Seal Team six guy
who's getting contracts to build autonomous like drone boats for
the US military, And and the numbers that he was
(15:54):
rattling off were staggering how rapidly China's military is improving.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Their navy is the largest in the world when it
comes to battleships, and I mean they're not trained like ours,
and their equipment is not the same as ours, so
you need to understand the difference. But they are larger,
and they are their ports are getting ever closer to
the United States, and that's that is the caution that
we have been talking about for years, and it's something
(16:19):
that people don't really want to talk about. I think
it's also important to note that this situation with Putin
and China, remember what was it was it twenty three
or twenty two when they came together and they said
they're looking for a new world order. The future will
be different with them together. Joe Biden was allowing I
(16:40):
don't know if he was not there or what it was,
but whatever, the administration was allowing this.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Lincoln for sure, yeah, for sure, I'm with you. I agree,
you know, and I think as you if when you
start to look at strategic global alliances, obviously America and
Israel have been tied at the hip from night teen sixties,
and probably even you could go back from nineteen forty
eight with Israel's inception, right and even before that you
(17:07):
could argue as well. You know, I think what you
have is you have two things taking place right now.
You have a shift and militaristic and global powers taking
place between the unification of Russia and China Iran in
(17:27):
South Africa, right and you have also a glowing rise
in socialism that's kind of sweeping the world as well too.
Look at South America right now, pretty much the only
democracy down there is Paraguay. So I think what's happening
is there's a shift, there's a paradigm shift. So what
(17:49):
do you do. You have to reestablish your military might
in those moments, and I think that's what's taking place
right now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, we will see how this weekend goes. We'll see
what goes on today. We again wish the President a
very happy birthday. Today, we wanted to get to what's
happening with the whole What are these riots called again
the no Kings protests, which we know we're going to
be riots. We're going to follow those throughout the weekend.
So I would love to get together again next week
(18:17):
and we can talk about those. So we'll try to
plan that. But I also want to say to everybody
who's listening, if you liked this, leave us some comments,
let us know that you liked this, and we can
try to continue putting something like this together for you.
So it's a combination of the David Rutherford Show and
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We'll both put it out. You
can find us anywhere you get your podcasts. We're both
(18:38):
in the Clay and Buck podcast network on iHeart. So
I appreciate you all listening to us. And I don't know, David,
if there's anything else you want to add about where
people can find it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Same thing, you know, all podcast areas, all social media
at David Rutherford's show, same same and Tutor. I just
it's such a privilege coming on with you. I really
enjoy our converse stations. And uh, let's just hope this
gets it doesn't escalate.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yep, we'll keep well, we will keep praying all weekend,
and we'll just keep everybody over there in Israel in
the Middle East in our prayers and thank you all
for listening, and hope we all have a bleased weekend.
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