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October 24, 2024 43 mins

In this episode of the Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor Dixon, along with Kyle Olson and Sara Broadwater, analyze Vice President Kamala Harris's recent NBC interview and its broader political implications. They critique Harris's performance, noting her perceived disconnect with voters, particularly in town hall settings with Black communities. The discussion highlights the media's portrayal of Harris, her campaign strategy, and the Democratic Party's overall approach. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Kyle Olsen
and Sarah Broadwater here with me. We are just going
to chat all things media, mostly centered on this latest
interview that Vice President Kamala Harris did with NBC. I
don't think it went the way she wanted it to go,
but I think it's interesting to see how NBC and

(00:21):
MSNBC MSNBC has been doing these kind of like town
halls gatherings with black voters, and they have not said
great things about Kamala Harris, and I'm surprised that the
media is not pushing back on them. They've kind of
been like, Okay, this is what actually is happening, what
people actually think. They don't like her.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The thing that's crazy is most of these town halls,
like when you have a panel come on, they're pre
selected and you usually pre interview them, so you kind
of know, or you at least the reporter should know. Okay,
we've got two Trump supporters, we've got three Kamala supporters,
whatever it is. But they clearly in the vetting either
the people didn't tell them the truth or they said,

(01:01):
we can't find anyone that supports her, and we gotta
go with it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I think there's a good chance that these people
in the cities are saying, why should we deal with
the way we're being treated. I mean, you hear them saying,
you know, Detroit is so beautiful, when the people of
Detroit have just suffered one of the largest mass shootings
in history, and nobody says, we actually want to do
something to keep you safer. I think they get that.

(01:26):
They're all just putting on a show. And you see
them coming out at these rallies with these super shirts
on that say things like be kind and I'm like, yeah,
they're saying that in the movie Cinderella too, But this
is real life where we want someone who can also
be strong. Where is the strong leadership? They're not strong?
And you listen to what Kamala Harris is saying and
you can tell she's not strong. And that's actually one

(01:47):
of the things that these town halls that people have said,
we don't feel like she's strong enough as a leader
to go into the room with these other people.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I mean, just at the town hall this week, one
of them that she hosted with Liz Cheney and Maria Shriver.
Someone has said, oh, can we ask a question and
they said, no, you can't ask a question like they're
pre So that was the other thing that we just had.
One of the reporters in Michigan say that people are
mad because they're like, why can't we go to these events?
And I actually didn't realize that these events with the
like Barack Obama and Eminem and all these people, you can't,

(02:18):
You're not you have to be invited or what is
the deal. I think the ANNGST is just that it
goes to their select group of Democrats that are really
in tune. But I think the average person doesn't know
where to find links to get registered to go to
these events.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, I think they're afraid of the people that
will come in and say Jesus is Lord. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, I saw a couple months ago there was a
rally in Arizona and they were saying that basically they
gave the tickets out to the unions that were supporting
Harris and then they were sort of expected to fill
the room. So I don't know if that's what's happening
in Michigan. It seems to make sense, and so therefore

(02:59):
you're not getting you know, the the public is not invited.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
So you brought up the Liz Cheney one. So I
just have to say. She had this interview with NBC
and she sat down with Hallie Jackson, who you Sarah said,
you think that she's a Kamala fan, which if you
listen to this interview, I have to say I give
her credit because she didn't give her a lot of room.
She didn't try to. I mean, she tried to dig

(03:25):
her out a few times, but it's almost like they've
given up trying to dig her out. But I think
that this is the funniest thing. I just want to
play this one part. So this is what Kamala Harris
had to say about Republicans.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I was just with one of the leaders on i
think opinion leaders of the Republican Party, Lis Cheney.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So that one of the leaders and the opinion leaders
of the Republican Party, what does Liz Cheney bring her?
Because I don't know. She got her butt handed to
her in her last selection. People don't like her. She
is like the symbol of warmongers. Her father was a
everybody believes that he was the behind the wars in Iraq.

(04:11):
And you have people in Michigan who will never forgive that.
Arab Americans in Michigan, who will never forgive that? And
she's like, look at who I plucked from the Republican
Party to go on tour with me.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I don't know a single Republican even when Liz Chaney
was actually quote unquote a Republican, because she's not a
Republican anymore. I don't know a single Republican that liked
Liz Chaney and likes her now within the last really
four to six years.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So when she.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Started a kid lad who was opinion I mean, my
very liberal aunt, who's not even a Republican.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's and it doesn't it's not like a Taulcy Gabbert
or an RFK where they have a lot of independent support.
It would make sense to travel. I think she's trying
to mimic what Trump is doing, and it would make
sense to travel with someone who kind of crossed into
that center area that's not Liz Cheney.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So Tim Walls was on with John Stewart. I think
it's Monday. It was Monday night, and John Stewart of
course was nope. Well, first of all, he's a progressive,
but secondly he was no fan of Bush or Cheney.
And and so John Stewart was challenging Tim Walls on
this endorsement from Dick Cheney, and you know, and he

(05:27):
just could not figure this out. Why why do you
think this is a good idea? And Tim Walls, it
just did not it just didn't register him with him.
Why why most people would not want why Democrats would
not want a Dick Cheney endorsement because of his actions
when he was Vice president with the Iraq War and

(05:49):
everything else. And so this embrace of the Cheney's I
guess because you know, she used to be a Republican
and wasn't she was the chair of the House Republican
Conference or something for some odd reason. So I guess
maybe that's the rationale. But no Republican looks at her

(06:12):
today and says, or maybe no Trump supporter, which is
most Republicans look at her today and say she is
a thought leader or she's a leader of the Republican Party.
That's just nuts.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
No. And I heard a reporter this morning saying that
the Kamala campaign has just gotten old and stale and moldy.
And I'm like, old and stale and moldy. It's only
been a campaign for like thirteen hours. You know, she
literally just became the nominee. Now she's moldy. I mean,
how bad do you have to be at this? When
you didn't have to get a vote, you didn't have

(06:46):
to go out and do an interview, But now she's
doing these interviews and she is just horrible at it.
I mean, really, I think you obviously vet candidates, and
that's what the primary process is for. So they go
out and they have to talk to people, and the
voters can say, actually, this person is capable of doing this.
This is their own fault. They put themselves in this position.

(07:08):
But I have to say I'm impressed with the pushback
that she got in this NBC interview. But I want
to play this part about them asking about President Biden
because her reaction is very interesting.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Can you say that you were honest with the American
people about what you saw in those moments with President
Biden as you were with him again and again repeatedly
in that time. Of course, Chill Biden is an extremely
accomplished experience and capable in additary way that anyone would

(07:47):
want if they're president. And I Evers already think't let
that happened at the debate night by the closed doors.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
With him, and it's a bad debate. People have bad debates.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
He is, absolutely, but that's the reason why you're here,
and he's not running for the top of the ticket. Well,
you'd have to ask to if that's the only reason
I want, what do you think I run it for
president in the United States? Joe Biden is not.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
So she's trying to back off of Joe Biden completely,
but fair question. You knew something was going on, you
said nothing, And she just can't even fumble her way
through it. She's like, he's everything you would have wanted
to hit for him to be. It's like her mind
is rapidly trying to figure out what to say. This

(08:33):
is not the first time she's gotten this question. It
is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And don't you think if you're her team or you're
even her just thinking about what might I be asked
in an interview, don't you think that would be the
first question that you think you're gonna be asked, considering
that's exactly how you landed in the spot that you're in. Right,
And the fact that she says he is not running
for president. I am running for president, Yes, that's the question.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Actually, and if you kept playing.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
That clip, I paused it. So we will keep playing it,
so to say, because I think what you were about
to say is very key.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Play the clip.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
No, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well okay, So my takeaway from this when you play
the clip is she repeatedly says Joe Biden. Now, Washington,
DC is a place of status, and people are constantly
referred to as by their title president, secretary, honorable exactly.

(09:37):
And so for the sitting vice president to not ever
in this, at least in this clip, say say President Biden.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't think she does in the whole interview very strange.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
And so it's very strange to me that a vice
president would not say President Biden or mister President or
you know, the president whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And just think about how they have hit. I mean,
Kyle mentioned that to me earlier, and I was like,
it wasn't something that I noticed, But once you notice it,
once he pointed it out, you cannot unhear it. And
because she keeps saying it, and it is interesting to
me that nobody else has called her out on this.
So I give kudos to Kyle again because remember when

(10:23):
they had that image and it looked like Trump walks
in front of the queen and they're.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Like, oh my gosh, she did.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
The protocol is you never walk in front of the queen,
and it's like she walks in front of Joe Biden.
She's walked in front of him, which is also the
vice president doesn't walk in front of the president. Now
she won't even refer to him as the president. Maybe
she really thinks she is president already. But whatever is
happening is very very disrespectful, and it just shows that

(10:49):
she doesn't understand law, she doesn't understand the Constitution, she
doesn't understand the positions like this is very significant to
me that that is her response.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
But I sort of wonder if it's intentional, and I
don't know if it's that's worse. Well, so I don't
know if it's When I say that, what I mean is,
I don't know if she's intentionally like downplaying his title.
So then she's because obviously what they have been trying
to do, Yeah, well, what they've been trying to do
the last couple of weeks is she's posing as the president,

(11:21):
whether it's about the hurricane or you know, the announcing
the money for Lebanon or whatever she's posing as the president,
so I don't. My thought is maybe that's why she
is talking this way.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So I'll play the rest of the clip so you
can hear for yourself. Now, in the beginning, she's already
called them Joe Biden at least once or twice. Here's
the rest.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Can the American people trust you and these little originally
when it's really uncomfortab blackfl Americas to ap she too
level with Americans in that way. So that's why I asked.
And it sounds like what you're saying is you feel
like you never saw any of the light baffle president.
But I have worked with Joe Biden, whether it could
hours and hours and hours or were these four years,
whether it be the situation over the Oval Office, Joe

(12:04):
Biden is the one who was able to bring Ato
together during a crisis where for the first time of
seventy years, Europe saw and has seen war. Joe Biden
has done the work that has been about being a
leader on what we have done to fix so much
of what has been broken in terms of the economy

(12:24):
because of Donald Trump's mismanagement. I speak with not only sincerity,
but with a real first hand account of watching.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's just so funny to me because even in that
SNL s get Maya Rudolph is like Joe Biden. Joe Biden,
so obviously other people have realized that she does not
refer to him as President Biden. She refers to him
as Joe Biden. But she can't even talk. Everything is
so such generalities. She's talking about the Ukraine War, she

(12:58):
can't even talk about it. She doesn't say what she's
talking about. She doesn't say that we're seeing, you know,
Russia invade Ukraine. She's never said anything like that. If
you're listening to her, you have to try to read
between the lines to understand to what she is even referring.
It is so challenging to listen to her. It's it's
something that a prosecutor does to try to trick the

(13:19):
jury into going to their side. And that is why
you see Holle Jackson saying to her, the American people
want to know if they can trust you, because they
cannot figure out what you're saying. And I don't trust her.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I honestly think Halle Jackson, as she's trying to get
through that interview is like trying to ask follow ups
because she doesn't even know what the answer is supposed
to be alluding to. Like I feel like, more so
than probably any interviewer has done for Kamala, Hallie was
actually like trying to follow a logical thread, and she
couldn't even follow the logic.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
But I think it's a very valid question about ten
people trying to you because we can all see with
our own eyes, and for some reason the media kept
looking away prior to that debate. We can all see
with our own eyes what is going on with him,
And I don't think you have to jump into you know,
conspiracy theories or anything else, but he clearly has declined.

(14:19):
And if this is what we're seeing when things are
tightly controlled and scripted and you know all of that,
just imagine what he's like behind closed doors and in
early in the morning or late at night or you know, whenever,
when he's getting hit with all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And so.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Everybody knows clearly is he must be worse. I mean,
it's common sense that he's worse behind the scenes than
he is when he's out, you know, reading something from
the teleprompter. And so that's I think that's sort of
the root of the question. And she won't even she
won't be upfront about them.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You say, it's everything's tightly controlled and scripted. That's the
part art that confuses me the most about this as
like to me, it shows that Joe Biden and Kamala
there's clearly a massive rift right now going on, because
if you know the questions that are going to get asked,
how are you different than Joe Biden? What was going on?
Wouldn't you think? And maybe this requires some grace on

(15:18):
Biden's side, which he may not give her at all
or be able to give her. Wouldn't she think they'd
come together and they would say, okay, here's three things
when they ask what you would do differently that I'm
okay with you.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Hitting me on.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Let's just kind of pretend put.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I don't think they've spoken. I don't think so either.
This woman stabbed him in the back. Do you think
that he's going to offer an olive branch to her
in any way? He hates her? Donald Trump is not
lying when he says Joe Biden hates Kamala Harris. She
took his entire life and destroyed it. Just ripped it apart.

(15:53):
She has No one has been as embarrassed as Joe Biden,
who became president after a lifetime of trying to be president.
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast after a lifetime of people stabbing
him in the back, like exposing plagiarism, saying you have

(16:14):
to step down. I mean, this guy has clawed his
way into the White House only to have his vice
presidential pick who he picked. He actually gave her a
present by picking her. He could have picked anyone, but
he said, I'm going to pick somebody that checks these boxes.
And maybe shame on you, Joe, because that person decided

(16:35):
to take you down. This was a coup, There's no
question about it. She came from behind and said I'm
going to take this job and going to get myself
into the White House. And she didn't bother to figure
out what it takes to do the job or to
actually talk the talk or walk of the walk. She
thought she could just do it. And the reason I
think he hates her is I will play this clip

(16:56):
from Joe Biden the day, which I think is hilarious
because this is not what they want him to say,
I said this five years ago, lock me up.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
We gotta lock him up.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
We got to lock him up, he says, now, And
I left the clapping because that's what they've done. That's
what they've done in the midst of Donald Trump having
all of these stupid charges that have come from the DOJ,
come from Joe Biden. He doesn't mince words there. And
maybe the man is so se now he's just telling

(17:34):
the truth now, I don't know, But that was their plan,
was to lock him up.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well, And what's interesting is, you know ms if you
watch MSNBC, which I don't, but it just sees the clips.
Sometimes their their hair is on fire because they're looking
at this data about early voting and the polls and
all of that and where the you know, the excitement
and energy is and they see things are not good

(17:58):
for her, and so their hair is on fire about
you know, fascism and all of that. You know rhetoric. Well,
isn't a locking up your political opponents sort of the
definition of fascism or at least one of the aspects
of it. And here and go back to when you know,

(18:19):
people used to chant lock her up at Trump's rallies,
and he came out and said, I wouldn't do that
because I don't think that's right for the country. That's
not healthy for the country. And I'm sort of paraphrasing,
but here you've got Joe Biden saying that lock him up.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
That So, to be clear as a Kamal Harris statement, no,
but seriously, you make a very good point. Donald Trump
one time joked, You're lucky I'm not president, because you'd
be in jail. He joked, and that became a rallying call.
But he never went back when they chanted that at
the rallies. He never went back and said, yeah, I will.

(19:01):
He didn't run on that. He didn't say I'm going
to everybody knew in that moment he was just joking
on the stage there and messing with her head. And
he didn't do it. That's the thing. He didn't do it.
But here you have the actual president of the United States,
whether the vice president wants to admit that or not,
the actual president of the United States saying I want

(19:21):
to lock up the opponent to my party right now,
the man who is the presidential nominee on the Republican side.
And then there's no question what the plan is, and
that is fascism. To your point, He's.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Also the worst camp between Bill Clinton Joe Biden at
this point, I think they're either all losing their minds
or they're the worst surrogates ever because they're just trying
to take Kamala down.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well. I mean, I don't think that Obama has helped
her either. I mean Obama just made people mad when
he was like, look, you do what I say. That's
not the American people don't respond to being told what
to do, and I think that's where the d Democrat
Party went off the rails in the last few years,
Like we're going to tell you what car to drive,
We're going to tell you what stove to have, We're
going to tell you which toilet to have. We're going
to make sure that you have very little water and

(20:09):
very little energy. It's going to be what we tell you.
We are the government, We're here to tell you how
to live. And the American people are like, oh wait,
actually no, that's not how we do things. But I
think the Democrat Party went so far that direction that
Obama has now genuinely come out forgotten what who he
even is as an American and come out and been

(20:29):
like I told you to do this. Well, wait a minute,
do you think that you own people? Do you think
you own certain people in this country and their opinions?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, I think the Obamas did because they had an
aura about them that they were worshiped.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
And she's destroying that. Yes, that's freaking them out. So
we'll see how it goes when Michelle Obama comes to Michigan.
The fact that she is bringing out Michelle Obama, Michelle
Obama is bringing out the big guns. You know. That's
like we are trying desperately to push people across the line.
They are losing Michigan. It could be because of this.

(21:04):
I want to play this clip for you so you
can understand why maybe Michigan's a little man.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
This is why going out to Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and and
in Michigan excuse me.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Just got it late? Wait, who's too tired? And and
and what's that other state? Where am I going with
Michelle Obama? Because I've screwed up so badly there. And
I give people grace on this because I do think
that you can get you do get to a point
where you're like, Okay, I've I've said these things, but
when you are running for president, you have you should

(21:36):
have said these seven states so many times that you
cannot possibly have one fall out of your head. But
she could not come to it.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And maybe don't attack your opponent for being tired and
messing up, because you're ultimately going to do the same thing, right,
It's gonna happen to both people.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, And maybe don't do these interviews because what is
she really gaining from this. It's not like she's winning
votes by doing I don't think she's winning votes by
doing these sorts of interviews.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So the beauty of this is that now abortion has
sort of become an issue that is backfiring on them
a little bit because even NBC is like, well, I
mean there are some limits, right, you're willing to put
some limits on and for those of you, I think
we've talked about it on the podcast. But she had
a rally a couple of days or a few days back,

(22:26):
maybe sometime late last week, when someone came into her
rally and said Jesus is Lord and she was like, oh, oh,
you're in the wrong rally. You should be down the street.
This is not the right rally. For you, and people
were like, wait a minute, what So she's suddenly like
not a fan of religion or is that going to
be a problem for her? She doesn't go to the

(22:47):
Al Smith dinner and avoids the Catholics and then mocks
them with the Molly Shannon skit of Mary Catherine Gallagher.
You've got this situation with Whitmer mocking religion in the
state of Michigan as well. So now suddenly I think
you're right, Sarah that I think this Hallie Jackson is
trying to help her. So she's like throwing her an
abortion bone, which I think is funny because you can

(23:08):
see her mind goes into a place where she's like, no,
this is our issue. I don't have to answer anything
on abortion. I'm winning on abortion. But she's not winning
on abortion, She's not winning on religion. So this is
where she takes it, which I thought was very creative
for NBC to take it to this place. So here
it is.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Religious exemptions, for example, is that something you would consider.
I don't think we should be making concessions or we're
talking about a fundamental freedomly to make decisions about your
own body. To the Republicans like for example, Susan Collins,
Lisa Rakowski, who would back something like this on a
democratic agenda if in fact Republicans control Congress, would you
offer them an olive branch or is that off the table?
Is that not an option for you?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
That pesky constitution got in the way again. Remember last
week she put out her proposal for black men, and
Kyle on the podcast was like, yeah, this is not legal, like,
you can't do this. I have a feeling that the
Constitution caught up with her in her head again when
she was like, would you have exemptions for religious organizations
or religious exemptions? Because remember when the Catholic Church said

(24:11):
you can't force us to do to have our hospitals
perform procedures that we are against our religious believe that
are against our religious beliefs, and that was a big deal. Well,
this is obviously what she's asking her. Are you going
to give certain religions exemptions? Are you going to force
them to perform abortions? And her face when you look

(24:33):
at the clip, her face is like contorted, like she's like,
this does not compute. It's my talking point is there
is nothing that's going to come between a woman and
her doctor. Well, wait a minute, the doctor has a
religious Are you going to force a doctor to do this?
And then immediately I'm not going to engage in hypotheticals.
That's that's not a hypothetical.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Everything about abortion that they talk about also is a hypothetical,
every example that they give. But it shows you how
shallow her understanding is because I I genuinely don't think
she actually thought about it. I note that she was
asked that question and she was like, I have literally
no clue, so she answered it and then she realized,
oh crap, I shouldn't have answered it that way. Now
I'm not going to engage in hypotheticals. But she also
I do love that her campaigns long that she walks

(25:15):
out to is freedom over and over again. It talks
about freedom, but she doesn't want religious freedom, she doesn't
want freedom of speech. Like it's just everything is totally
contradicting with them.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
But when are Democrats actually challenged on what limitations they favor.
They're never challenged on that. It's all Republicans are always
the ones about well do you support this exemption or
that or whatever, And it's the Republicans that are always
they're trying to put on defense. So the fact that
one she's not willing to say any sort of limitations

(25:48):
that she has at all, I think is very telling.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's kind of crazy to me because she has been
doing so many softball interviews, and I think people forget
sometimes you have to practice more for the softball question
than you do for a hard question, because you're so
focused on the hard such just for any question.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's like Hallie Jackson in theory she get had. I mean,
she definitely had some tough questions in there, but she
also tried to kick her some arguably softball questions. The
abortion one should have been for the most part of
softball questions. She asked some questions about like sexism, all
those things, and even though she didn't have answers for
and I.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Just it wasn't like, I mean, we're not sitting through
an interview where she's saying, Evie, mandates have killed the
auto industry in Michigan. What's your answer to that? You know,
they don't ever ask her that. They don't say you
flip flopped on fracking? How do you really feel about racking?
Although this week we don't even know how she feels
about fracking. You know, they're not really pushing her on
these things, but they do. They present it in a

(26:45):
way they would never present the questions to a Republican
and yet she still cannot respond. And this one, I
think is incredibly important that I'm gonna play because they
ask her about ice. They ask her about ice because
we have a catastrophe in this country right now, not
only with drug trafficking and sex trafficking, but just the
people that are coming across the borders who are so dangerous.

(27:08):
And those people who are so dangerous, what agency goes
after them to make sure we are safe? That's Ice. Now,
in the past, she has made comments about ice. Look again,
you listen to this, and she is like dumbfounded by
this question. Here it is back.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
In twenty eighteen. You stop short of calling to abolish ice,
as some Democrats were doing at the time. But she
also said, I'd never called stuff short of land. That's right,
that's right, you said, And she could critically re examined
it and considered starting full scratch. Would you consider a
fear president starting full scratch with ice? Let me tell
you what the customers of the Border Patrol agents need,

(27:44):
what the immigration system needs, it needs to be fixed.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
She just cannot answer the question. And Holly says to her, no,
I know, I said, you stop short of saying it,
but you say you want to start from scratch? Do
you want to start from scrat I mean, honestly tell us.
You know, we if if you have a Republican that
says they want to eliminate the Department of ED or
start from scratch with the FBI, everybody loses their minds,

(28:11):
oh my gosh, but this was a legitimate question. Do
you want to start from scratch with ice? And she said,
let me tell you what Customs and Border Patrol wants.
That's the fact that she refuses to answer the question.
Is why you then see town halls on MSNBC where
intelligent voters from the black community are saying, we've listened.

(28:35):
She is not telling us any answers. We are listening
and we want to know, but she will not respond
to the questions, and therefore we are not going to
come out for her. You know, people will say, oh,
this is a low information situation. The only reason that
we have low information voters right now is because where's

(28:58):
the information from their team? I guess you can go
to her website. You can read the eighty pages, as
she told Brett Baer. So I will say again that
she either does not know what's in those eighty pages
and someone else wrote those eighty pages, copied them from
Joe Biden's website, or she knows they're so bad that
she can't discuss them.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
What's so fascinating to me is that this person has
She was a US senator, so she's been around these
sorts of issues for years, and now she's been the
vice president, so she's been around these issues for years.
You would think someone in her position, even if she
is not, you know, doesn't really care much about studying

(29:40):
or anything, would just sort of absorb, absorb what's going on.
And she seems like she's absolutely incapable of doing that.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Let's take a quick commercial break. Will continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. The normal way of talking would be,
if you're asked that question, no, I don't think we
should abolish ice, but let me tell you why, where
our downfalls have been, what we need to improve what
we're seeing on the border. But like I said, she

(30:10):
talks like she's prosecuting a case. With these weird, twisted
sentences that take you in multiple different directions but never
to a conclusion. And it's the most it's just truly
the most bizarre thing to watch. And perhaps that works
in the courtroom, but that doesn't work in business. So
business people are watching this and what the hell are
you saying? It doesn't work in a negotiation, and it

(30:33):
certainly doesn't work where you're sitting down to the table
and you're trying to work with a foreign nation who
is either an adversary or even an ally. I mean,
can you imagine sitting down with this What the hell
did you just say? I mean the fact that she's like,
it needs to be fixed? Okay, yes, is this your opportunity? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean I think I could pull any ten year
old off the street and they would say, yeah, that
needs to be fixed. I mean they probably would have
more detail about it than Kamala Harris Good. And that's
why I'm like, what is that answer?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Is it a strategy to say nothing? That cannot be
a strategy. However, I've seen other things from her campaign
that I think that could not be a strategy, But
it is a strategy, And I just think that the
Democrat Party in general has it's very lost. I look
at what they're doing, these corny videos that they're putting out.
I mean, you have the other the former or the

(31:24):
current governors. They're current governors. I say I thought former
for a second, because none of them have been in
their states for months. Kay always jokes. I guess being
a governor means you don't even have to be around
because like our governor hasn't been in the state for months.
You know, she breezes in and out to do a
campaign event and that's it. But it's not professional. They're

(31:45):
not talking. I mean, she's worrying a sweatshirt or a
shirt that says something like be be brave and be
kind or something, and I'm like, this is not real life.
I mean, can you imagine George Washington wearing that shirt?
I mean, these are serious times. Where are the statesmen
who are coming out and saying this is what our

(32:06):
nation is facing right now. They can't say that because
it's their policies that have screwed things up. And so
I'm guessing that's why we're getting this clown show everywhere
we go. But even Obama doesn't know what to say
and you know, I used to think he was pretty
on top of it when it came to what to say,
but he seems totally flustered.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I am very curious by what the book will be
after this is all said and done, because there's gonna
be so much blame coming out, and I'm curious what
staffers are going to get blamedda the staffers turning on
the candidate. It's gonna be fascinating who actually comes out
after this, because no one wants to take the blame.
And I think normally you could kind of pin some

(32:44):
of this on staff. In her case, I don't know
how much you can, because it just seems like, well,
but if the staff was this capable of convincing her
to do stupid things and be an idiot on the
world stage, then she doesn't deserve the job because your
staff is a reflection of you. So how can you,
as the candidate be like the staff? I was not

(33:05):
paying enough attention. I mean, the al Smith dinner is
the perfect example of how stupid her campaign has become.
And we hear behind the scenes. I don't know if
this is true, but the rumor is behind the scenes.
The next day, she's just raging over the fact that
she didn't go to that. Where have you been? This
is a long standing tradition.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's an annual thing.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, right, but it's but it's a time of coming together.
It's a time to make fun of yourself. And I
think that the Democrats have I mean, you've said this,
Kyle for a long time. They're at a point where
they can't make fun of themselves.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, but I think yes, And I think that the
problem they've got is, you know, in twenty twenty, the
whole Biden strategy was He's not Donald Trump, and there
was Trump exhaustion, and you know, people were unhappy with
the pandemic and all of that, and so there was
sort of this anti Trump. I wouldn't call it a wave,

(33:59):
but that would that was really sort of the energy
of the Biden campaign. And I think that they thought
that they could do in twenty twenty four. They thought
they could do this switcheroo once Trump was officially locked
in as the nominee, and they thought they could do
the switcheroo and get rid of Biden, get rid of

(34:19):
the whole what's wrong with his health and all of that,
that whole question and just sort of ride the anti
Trump wave. But of course the problem is that people
then had a comparison of the Trump years, which they go, oh,
that wasn't so bad, and this now we've got, you know,
prices have gone up, gas prices are up, the world

(34:42):
is on fire. We've got a guy you know, shuffling
around that you know, doesn't really know what day it is.
You've got somebody who is his vice president who's clearly
not you know, telling the truth about all of that.
And they thought they could just slot her in. She
doesn't have to actually talk about anything. They can just say, oh,
this is the campaign of joy, and she can you know,

(35:04):
cackle and everybody can you know, have a great time,
and she'll just get elected. Well, the world, I think
they're seeing, to your point about a book afterwards, they're
seeing that twenty twenty four, the world in twenty twenty
four is not the world of twenty twenty and they're
now I don't know if they're realizing that, but I

(35:25):
think they're going to realize that, and it may lead
to a serious loss.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I mean, can you imagine seeing Republican governors go out
to bars, taking shots and telling people to vote because
I think that that may play with a certain group
of people, and maybe they think that they can win
simply on the college student vote. But the average person
right now is home with diapers up to their elbows.

(35:55):
They've got kids that they've got to take to soccer.
They're not going out to the bars. I mean, Sarah's
laughing because she doesn't have to day. That's a lot
of shit. Diaper's up to your elbow, I mean, but
that's the reality of parents who are trying to get
through the day. They are paying for all of these
things that are overpriced. Remember we couldn't get formula a

(36:16):
few months ag back. I mean, the everyday American is
looking at a very challenging life right now, and the
governors on the Democrat side are cheer or cheering at
the bar, holding up their tequila shots and asking people
to go out and vote. If I'm I mean, I'm
a mom of four. I go to the grocery store

(36:37):
every week. I'm not putting tequila in my cart because
I can barely afford the food for lunches. I'm not
going out to the bars at night because it's outrageously expensive.
I just can't imagine that there are that many families
that look at that and go, you're so cool. I
want you leading the country instead. I'm looking at that,
and I think most people are looking at that, and

(36:58):
like you've seen that auto worker who's been out there
talking and saying I got laid off in Michigan and
she's out drinking at the bar, like, screw you people.
I think that's the.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Point is for so long, maybe the last decade, they've
been able to say we're cool. They'll vote for us
because we're cool. And I think people are fed up
with that, Like I'm not voting for someone for because
they're cool. I'll never forget. When I was in college,
it was Mitt Romney versus Barack Obama, and we were
watching the returns come in, and you know, we were
talking about it, and I had a guy I was

(37:27):
in business school with him. He was a finance major, like,
and he's like, I'm going to vote for Barack Obama.
I said, well why, and he said, because he plays basketball.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
He's really cool.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, And I just thought, what a strange thing. But
like I can look at okay. Obama was in Michigan
the other night and he did the he rapped part
of Eminem's song, and I will say, like it was,
you could tell he was having the most fun of
his life, like at that moment in the rally. But
I'm not going to vote for him because of that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I think that cool works when you are ushering in
a new era. But this is not to Kyle's point.
You can't get away from the fact that you're in
power now and in all these things that they say
they wanted to do, why didn't they do it in
the first two years of Biden's term when they had
the majority and they could have passed anything they wanted.

(38:12):
I mean, why not do that? Then you have to
have something to back up the cool you can be.
Obama's a pretty good example of like he knew when
to be cool, he knew when to be serious when
he was president at the time, and he did put
policies for that. His side liked he did something. Kamala
Harris is not doing anything. Gretchen Whitmer is not doing anything.

(38:33):
They're losing jobs, They're.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I mean, they don't have anything to back it up
to make the cool moderately enjoyable to people.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
You know, Kamala Harris makes the comment all the time
that they didn't want The Republicans didn't want the border
crisis solved because they wanted to run on it, which
is obviously totally total bs because they didn't have a
true bill to pass that would have actually solved the
border problem. But the interesting thing is that if Democrats
cared about this whole, like we have to have abortion thing,

(39:03):
we have to have this reproductive crap. That decision came
out in July, they still had the majority. They could
have been like, we've got to call everybody in, We've
got to have Roby Wade. She says she would do that,
but she doesn't have exactly. They wanted to run on it.
They want to continue to run on They want to

(39:25):
run on it forever. They never want this issue solved
because they want to scare people into voting. It is
their only way to win. It was effective ones, and honestly,
I don't think it's effective now, but we shall see.
Kyle's do you have anything else to add? You know,
Kyle's silent, He's done.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I just I'll just say I took my kids too,
three kids. I took them to five guys last night.
It was eighty dollars. I know, eighty dollars, and so
we were we were talking about well why, why what
is inflation? And we were talking about mortgage rates and

(40:07):
how this these these things really actually impact people, normal people.
And so when you're you know, trying to provide for
your family or cook them a meal, or buy shoes
for school or whatever, and you've got these clowns that

(40:27):
are on social media, you know, doing their stupid things,
it's just it's insulting and it's ridiculous. And I think
people not that I don't believe people are looking to
government to do everything for them, but there's very basic things.
And so when they get offended about you know what

(40:49):
Donald Trump says about Detroit, well they don't. Gretchen Wimmer,
she would rather, you know, have rhetoric in talk in
platitudes about Detroit, which I don't think anybody is dispared
urging Detroit. But if you're not willing to say that
cities like Detroit have problems and they demand solutions, then

(41:11):
you're not Actually you don't actually care about the people
of Detroit, because the fact is it's one of the
most dangerous cities in America. It is has some of
the worst outcomes in schools, in America. The roads are
not good. There are just so many problems.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
There's a bandoned buildings, they have they've drunk problems, there's
there are lots of problems in Detroit that they will
not recognize.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
And so her solution is instead of obviously she would
never give Donald Trump any credit for anything, but instead
of saying, yeah, we have problems, she just you know,
turns it into some sort of she's offended that he
would say that, you know, we shouldn't we shouldn't replicate
Detroit in America. That shouldn't happen.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
But notice the other night when she talked about it,
she was like, we have winning sports teams. We're going
to keep on winning. At the end of the day,
the winning sports teams again, don't put food on the table.
The NFL Draft in Detroit comes and goes. Where is
the lasting effect for the people of this state. And
I'm not talking about just Detroit, the whole state. We

(42:23):
deserve better, We deserve lower energy costs, we deserve lower taxes,
we deserve better infrastructure. We keep getting told that the
infrastructure bill was passed, so we have all this great infrastructure.
Yet people on northern Michigan still can't get online. I mean,
it's all blowney, it's just a show. And I think
that that's what we'll see come election day, which I

(42:43):
cannot wait for election day to get here, but I
think that is what we will see come election day,
is that people will go, Actually, it's great that you
went out and had tequila shots, but we'd like to
feed our kids. We're serious about making sure America goes
back to America. So on that note, I will say
we appreciate you guys listening. I know we went a
little longer than usual, but we're really trying to analyze

(43:04):
these last few days of the campaigns and what they're
doing and what the Democrats are trying to figure out.
So make sure you tune in tomorrow. We will have
another episode of the Tutor Dixon Podcasts, and for this
one and others, you can download it at tutordisonpodcast dot com,
go to the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you
get your podcasts, and join us next time on the

(43:25):
Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have a blessed day,

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