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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we have a
former New York Congressman and gubernatorial nominee, Lee Zelden with
US Congressman. Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, it's great to be with you, Tutor.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm so excited that you're here today because there's so
much to talk about. The news cycle obviously is constantly changing.
Over the weekend, we had some pretty devastating news though
out of Israel. We had another attack. We saw this
attack from Hesbola coming on children who were playing soccer.
These were little kids, families that felt like they had
gotten through the October seventh attack just to have this happen.
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And I wanted to ask you about the response from
the United States just days before, and I would say
that is directly from Kamala Harris, who is now the
Democrat nominee, or we believe she's the presumptive nominee for president.
She refused to sit through Benjamin Netanya, who's addressed to Congress,
and then she met with him later and came out
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and seemed very much to side with Hamas and she said,
you know, we all we don't believe in these genocides
and all this stuff. But I mean, she was really
saying that she wanted this ceasefire and she felt like
Israel had to concede. How does that then impact these
terror organizations?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It emboldens the terror organizations, It creates more daylight between
the United States and Israel. It leads to other countries
around the world creating their own daylight between themselves and Israel.
The United States is clearly the leader of this movement
across the entire country, whether it be to strengthen an
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alliance with Israel or to see more daylight. And right
now with this administration, there's only been increased daylight. Kamala
Harris's first big decision after becoming the presumptive Democratic nominee
was to skip this important address. At the address, the
Prime Minister of Israel cleared up some important mistruths that
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have been lobbied at Israel, and Bib was very specific
and crisp sharp in clearing up the ways that they
try to mitigate civilian casualties, the way that they're trying
to get.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Aid into Gaza.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
The reasons why that aid isn't getting the Gaza is
because Hamas is stealing it. And these are just a
couple of many examples where substantively, whether you agree with
the Prime Minister of Israel or not, you should be there. Unfortunately,
Kamala Harris decided not to be. And then when she
gave her remarks to the press after meeting with the
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Israeli Prime Minister, she was talking about how BB needs
to accept this cease fire deal as if Hamas has
agreed to it, as if this is a deal that
would actually release all of the hostages. Really, if you
read where they are with it, it's an agreement to
continue to negotiate. Israel would have to withdraw from Gaza
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and then hope that they would get the the remaining
hostages out. And I'll just add two quick points. One
is the Israelis would have to agree to release two
thousand Palestinian prisoners people are actually committed crimes. And then secondly,
I would point out Kamala Harris was lecturing about how
this seasire was important for israel security, allowing Hamas to
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continue to exist where they want to wage jihad and
wipe Israel off the map, pushing a one state solution
where there is no more Jewish state. How can Kamala
Harris with a straight face get away with saying that
for Israel security, they should just give up on wiping
out Hamas.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Because I believe if the media turns on you, if
the media turns on the American people, and they can
actually convince people that what Kamala Harris is saying is reasonable,
then nobody is fact checking in Honestly, this is what
I've been finding out, is that no one is fact
checking this. And you hear her. What she said was
an out and out lie when she came out and
she addressed the country about this and she said, okay,
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well they if they agree to this, there will be
lasting peace in this region. And to me, that was
such a shot to the heart of Israel because how
can you possibly there was, you know what, we had
peace in the region supposedly on October sixth. This isn't
something that Israel should capitulate and say, you know what,
we're gonna do all these concessions to try to accommodate Hamas.
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And the fact that she never condemned Amas, she didn't
come out and condemn it, she didn't condemn what happened
the night before in the United States. That to me
is shocking too. She put out a statement, and I
believe that when a politician puts out a statement but
they don't ever speak to it, especially when they are
the next day in public addressing the nation, that she
doesn't speak to the fact that the horrific things that
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happen at Union Station the night before and the protests
that have gone on, the ripping down of American flags
and burning them, the fact that she didn't speak out
against that, and she wasn't honest about the fact that
this won't bring peace is exactly why she is dangerous
for this country.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, so many great points.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And if you want to be critical of civilian casualties,
if you are not going to acknowledge any of the
tactics that Israel pursues and that BB discussed, well why
aren't you at all criticizing Hamas for using civilians as shields.
Why aren't you calling on Hamas to stop launching attacks
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out of schools and hospitals so that the schools, the hospitals,
religious sites, they can be protected sites that will not
get targeted. So it's important for the president of the
United States, no matter who the president is at any time,
to be an honest broker and sometimes the pursuit of
being a neutral arbiter. When it gets even further biased
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by domestic politics and the pursuit of power, it leads
to a calculation that is skewed because of a desire
to win Michigan, desire to pander to the likes of
Rashida to Leave and her friends in Dearborn and Rashida
to Leave has publicly spoken about how she wants a
one state solution where there would be no more Jewish state.
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So I think that Kamla Harris has shown that she
is further to the left than Joe Biden in many ways,
this way included, and Americans need to take this to
heart when they head to the polls in November.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, and I think that when she came out and
she said, you know, I just I've met with our ally,
our oldest, our most important ally in the Middle East.
I've met with them, and I just want you to
know that those of you who are on in the
streets right now, I see you and hear you. These
are not people that are over there in Gaza. That's
not who she's seeing and hearing. She's seeing and hearing
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these radicals that are trying to rip down American flags
that are you know, straight painting our buildings with graffiti,
And it is very reminiscent of her also saying in
twenty twenty, I see you out in the streets, stay
in the streets. This is someone who likes chaos. And
I find it interesting that they say, oh, this is
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normal against chaos, and this is civility against chaos. Wait
a minute, At every turn, she promotes chaos at every turn.
And you know, I was talking to some people last
week about this and they were like, oh, gosh, how
could you even bring up Minneapolis when you have January sixth?
And I'm like, how do the people of Minneapolis feel
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about this? When you know that for what thirty days
people ransacked Minneapolis, that over a billion dollars worth of
damage was done to people's personal businesses, that people's livelihoods
were destroyed, And then when it was over, and the
person who's now running for president told people to continue
to do it, stay out there, stay in the streets,
continue this chaos. And then when it was over, who
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was there to rebuild? Not the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You're right, and what we saw at Union Station was
a disgrace.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
The vice president should be passionately speaking out against the
lines they are getting crossed where crimes are being committed,
clearly going past protected speech. People were out there saying, well,
you're allowed to burn a flag, and then there's a
debate about whether that's right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, that wasn't their flag to.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Burn, itsyephole right.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And you can't ignore the monuments that were getting spray painted,
as you just described streets that were getting burned down
in twenty twenty, Kamala Harris was out there raising money
to battle out the people who were committing crimes. And
then on top of it, what you saw a CBS
affiliate out of Minnesota this week, they try to fact
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check President Trump saying that this is untrue, this is
a false smear attack. The Kamala Harris wasn't doing this well.
That CBS affiliate interviewed Kamala Harris two years ago, where
that same CBS affiliate was going after Kamala Harris talking
about how she was raising money to bell these people
people out. So what we're watching is an attempt by
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the media to whitewash Kamala Harris's worst hits. We saw
it where now they're saying that she was never the
borders are, even though the media said she was the
Axios reporter who wrote the story to fact check President
Trump and supporters this week, it wasn't just the same
outlet that in twenty twenty one said that Kamala Harris
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was the borders are. It was the same reporter of
the same outlet who said in twenty twenty one Kamala
Harris was the borders are. And I'll give you one
other quick one, and there's too many other examples, is
that Kamala Harris was the most liberal senator of twenty nineteen,
as ranked by Govtracks. So what does GovTrack do They
get rid of the website with Kamala Harris's voting record
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so that you can't even look it up anymore. So
clearly there's going to be a circling of the wagons
here behind her. There was a story that just broke
in the last twenty four to forty eight hours that
I'm sure you saw where people were going on Google
and they were typing attempted assassination of and nothing was populated.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You see Donald.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Duck popping up, but not Donald Trump and all these
other presidents. So you know, listen, big tech companies, the media.
They're going to be pulling out all the stops. They're
going to make that fifty one intelligence officers and suppressing
the Hunter Biden laptop story seem like nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. I want to point out there
are no other countries where we see this unless they
are under communist or socialist rule. The only other places
where we see this with the media is China, Iran, Russia.
Those are the countries where you see information hidden. The
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public is only allowed to see what the media is
allowing them to see. I mean, even I had folks
talking to me about the trial in New York. They're like, oh,
how could you say that he's not convicted because these
twelve people convicted him. And I said, if you have
a judge that only allows you to see one side
of course. I mean this is where we are now.
This is communism where you just put people in prison
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and you take away all the other side of information.
And that's what's happening with Kamala Harris. You talk about
them saying, oh, this didn't happen in Minneapolis. Now we
saw axios scrubbed their website of any mention of borders
are She's not responsible for the border at all. Doesn't
matter that they're saying, well, you know, she had this
diplomatic responsibility, but what could she do there. It's like,
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we're not even going to talk about that. We're going
to make sure the American people don't think she had
anything to do with that. Now it's that she didn't
really mean it when she said she wants to get
rid of fracking, all of this Green New Deal stuff.
She doesn't feel that way anymore. Wait a minute, any
Republican that runs for office, I mean, my gosh, if
you said something as a toddler in preschool, they're going
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to bring it up and say this is absolutely what
they feel. Doesn't matter if it was fifty five years ago.
This is how this person feels now. Just in twenty nineteen,
when she was running, she said that she wants to
ban fracking in the United States. I don't think that
there is any any coincidence that she's now looking at
Josh Shapiro as a running mate, because guess what, in Pennsylvania,
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that's a pretty big deal. If you say you're going
to ban fracking, and now she is the media saint.
She doesn't feel that way. How can we trust the
media ever again?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And the way that this whole thing broke was late
on a Friday, not Kamala Harris's own words, but somebody
who was connected to Kamala Harris saying to some reporter
that she has changed her position, and the media just
runs with it to say, okay, so it's now changed.
And if anyone wants to claim that Kamala Harris wants
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to ban fracking because of that story on a Friday
night by this random staffer, that now there'll probably be
some formal fact check and they'll be going after that
Republican accusing that Republican of life. Listen, I want to
hear and Kamala Harris's own words. She should be telling
the public about what changed, How did this drastically change?
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I don't want to have to take some random staffers
word for it. And for people who live in Pennsylvania,
they're going to see right through this flip flopping that
fracking is something that inside of Pennsylvania has support on
both sides of the aisle, and it's important for their
economy and they have towns that will cease to exist
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budgets that will not balance. There will be a huge
hit to Pennsylvania in its future if Kamala Harris has
four years in the White House. And I don't think
you can trust somebody who is willing to play these
particular games. And now as far as the media goes,
if they want to play along with this, they're not
going to get away with it, and a lot of
people will trust the media less as a result too.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know, I hope that that's true, but I just
see I keep seeing that this is having such an
impact on the average American that they're so convinced by
what they see. And I do think that the media
is still considered in oftentimes in many cases I trusted source.
You know that you're used to saying, Okay, this is
from a journalist, and we believe in journalistic standards, we
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believe in journalistic practices. And I think it's just become
like it's just starting where you see some people on
the right who are going, man, this stuff is all
utter blowney. But now I think the left is so desperate.
They went through Joe Biden, they went through the massive
cover up, and let's be honest, Kamala Harris was a
part of that cover up. And I believe, and I
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truly believe that if you look at the facts here
and you know what they knew. They knew that Joe
Biden was incapable of running for office, and he's incapable
of running the country right now. They knew they had
the report saying that he couldn't even be he couldn't
even be held accountable for the documents because he wasn't
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capable of understanding the conversation that he was having with
the special counsel. They all knew when you look back
at the facts and you see that they did the
early debate, they knew what he would be like in
the debate. But they also knew that if Harris had
a primary, she would be bloodied and she wouldn't be
able to come out of it. And all of these
things that they're now covering up in the media, they
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couldn't cover up if she had gone through a primary.
How can the country trust these people after this?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I think that more and more people are picking up
on it. The question is have enough people picked up
on it as far as trusted sources. When you want
to live your life and you're prioritizing work, family. You're
not a political person, maybe you start to wake up
now because you know that there's an election coming up
and you want to make an informed decision. Maybe you
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have the ability to turn on one particular source of media.
The answer when I get asked we aware should I go?
I tell people, if you can, you should be reading
six different things and then understand the biases and make
your own independent judgment of what's true and what's not true.
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But to be able to go view facts from six
different sources is just something that the average American doesn't
have time to do on everything. So there's going to
be a certain amount that slips through. And what often
happens is the first punch will get a whole lot
of reach on social media saying something that's not true,
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and then somebody will correct it, and that correction will
get so much less reach, but the original post will
still be out there and it'll still be getting pushed.
And that's something that is going to continue to happen
between now and November fifth. I mean, I don't know
what else you could possibly throw at President Trump between
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trying to lock him up for the rest of his life,
to try to bankrupt him in his family. He's just
over two weeks ago he was there was an attempted assassination,
nearly had a bullet hit his skull. I mean, there's
not much else you'd think that they could throw at him.
But between now November fifth, between now and January twenty
twenty five, there's going to be a lot. We have
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to just continue to speak the truth. I haven't been
any I haven't been somebody who's been talking about Kamala
Harris as a pick based off of her gender whatnot.
Some people have said that she was a DEI pick,
and I've seen that back and forth with the media.
I'm just going to speak the truth for a moment.
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When President Biden was campaigning, he pledged that he would
pick a woman to be his vice president. He said
that he was going to pick a black woman to
be a Supreme Court justice. In President Biden's own words,
this is in White House transcripts. After Vice President Harris
was picked. After he got into the White House, he
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was talking about his White House as being a diversity,
equity and inclusion white house and pointed to his vice
president as the top example of that DEI white House
that he's tried to create. So listen, I'm just saying
this just to point out facts here that I think
too many people. You know, they try to use the
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tool of fact check when you know it's really about
a business model and a tactic to try to change
reality and facts. And you know, the facts need to
speak for themselves and conservatives need to speak truth to power.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
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with Lee Zelden right after this. I think the misinformation,
it's funny because you brought that up and we hear
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them on the other side constantly say, oh, this is
disinformation and misinformation, And I think the only reason that
they love those terms is it has to be something
they talk about behind the scenes, like how can we
manipulate people here and how can we manipulate people there?
Because I see the things that I mean are printed
about me. I'm sure you saw the things that were
printed about you and their out and out lies and
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you see the same thing with this, But to your point,
once it's out there, it's really hard to pull it back.
And they have figured this out, and I think it's wrong.
And I hope that our side never starts to do
this where you just start to put out lies constantly,
because I think it is so dangerous. However, I'm worried
that the Republicans are not fighting back well enough. I
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don't think the Republicans are getting enough airtime. When I
look at the advertising time, man, the Democrats have really
booked it out. And I do think that they waited
and they held some of their ground game, and they
held some of their advertising money because they knew that
this switch was coming. They didn't want people out knocking
doors for Joe Biden. Now they are going to have
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an organization on the ground that is shockingly well put together,
and I'm concerned that on the Republican side we are
not prepared for that. How do you see it happening
on the Republican side that we meet them when we
exceed what they're doing, and that we fight back, because
I think, not only do we have to have a
sharp ground game, and we have to have ads that
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are educating people on the truth. We have to do
it ten times better because they have been so effective
in painting us within an ugly brush that is not true.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You're right, there was a lot of truth there, a
lot of facts. And fundraising is going to be important.
And anybody out there who's able to donate five dollars
Donald J. Trump dot com or you can donate more.
I mean, there are people who are stepping up and
giving six figure donations and others donating twenty dollars and
it's their first time ever donating to a political candidate ever.
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There are people who are volunteering for the first time,
others deciding whether or not to volunteer. We need everybody
to be willing to do everything in their power, taking
nothing for granted. We have less than one hundred days
between now and November fifth, just after Labor Day ballots
go out North Carolina, ballots go out in Pennsylvania. There
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is an effort through in America First Coalition that I
know that you've been at meetings that I've been at
where there are organizations that see what you just refer
to the need to be able to have a ground
game in targeted counties in targeted states. Michigan, where you're from,
is a very important state. There are some ballot initiatives
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that will be on the November ballot.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
There are people who are.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Out knocking on doors now on the right, but we
have to be more united. We have to unite for
the purpose of saving this country.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The past.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Whatever is in the past needs to stay in the past.
We need to be forward looking with a positive, uplifting
vision for what this country will look like if we
have the opportunity to be able to secure our border,
to make our country prosperous, to be energy independent, to
have a strong and effective foreign policy again, to make
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our streets safer. Kamala Harris is flawed and far left
on all of these fronts. She actively has spoken about it.
Her record is clear, and you don't have to go
back thirty or forty or fifty years, and you don't
have to spin anything. In her own words, she is
as far left as you get, and she has touted
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some of the most far left proposals in our country's history.
And I don't believe that any major party in this
country has ever nominated somebody as far left as Kamala Harris.
So for people out there. You know, if you're middle
of the road common sense Americans, you want balance, You
want to see our country heading in the right direction.
The choice is clear. We can't go even further left
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than what we've had these last three and a half years.
Kamala Harris would be wrong for our country. President Trump
had a nation just before COVID, HiT's the strongest economy.
I have a remember of my lifetime a border that
was more secure than ever. Right when he was leaving office,
there were farm wars being ended while no new wars
were starting. We were becoming more energy independent day after day.
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So I want to get back to that. I want
to pick up right where they left off of a
country that we are making great again. It's far more
than just a slogan. It's really a cause that motivates
me when I wake up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
And to me, the lack of foreign policy is just
devastating when you look at Kamala Harris, but also the
picks that she is looking at for VP. I mean,
we know Obama had Biden because he felt like, Okay,
well he's got some foreign policy chops. You've got nobody
in this administration with that and Kamala Harris has proven
that her commerce that she just had with Prime Minister
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net and Yahoo have turned into We already see instant
effect on the ground from the terrorist organizations that it
makes America look weak. And to me, having America Week
on the world stage is the most dangerous position that
we can be in because it's not just us in
that position, it's the entire world that is in chaos then,
and that can happen under a president Kamala Harris, and
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that's why I think it's so important to fight against that.
Congressman leez Alden, thank you so much for coming on today.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
You got it's great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's great to be with you too, and thank you
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