January 5, 2026 • 31 mins
In this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, Tudor sits down with Seamus Bruner, Director of Research at the Government Accountability Institute, to expose the shocking welfare fraud scandal in Minnesota, where more than $1 billion in taxpayer funds has allegedly gone missing—some of it potentially benefiting terrorist-linked organizations.
Tudor and Seamus break down how massive failures in government oversight allowed this fraud to flourish, what it reveals about systemic corruption, and how taxpayer money is being mismanaged across infrastructure projects and green energy initiatives, including the electric vehicle agenda. The conversation also explores how protests are politically manipulated, how radical organizations are funded, and why transparency and accountability in government spending are more urgent than ever.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, I have Seamus
Bruner with us. He is the director of research at
the Government Accountability Institute and author of Control of Garcs,
exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals, and the globalist
plot to dominate your life.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hey, Tudor, great to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
There's a lot going on, and I know you've been
out there talking about all of it. I think a
lot of people are wondering what exactly is happening in Minnesota.
We've heard about this like mystery billion dollars that has
gone missing and seems to be taken by the Somalian
community in some way. Elhan Omar, the congresswoman out there,
has been like kind of nonchalant, like, well it got lost,
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it's the FBI's fault. And Waltz, the governor, is just
like ho hum, things like this happen.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
What is going on? Yeah, So it's a it's a
pretty shocking story. I mean, usually the EBT fraud, welfare
fraud is in the millions, tens of millions. This case
in Minnesota tops one billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And that is obviously a huge amount of money.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We've been tracking EBT and welfare fraud really since before
twenty eighteen. We put out a report I work with
Peter Schweitzer. By the way, we follow the money. We
put out a report called eb Terrorism and it traced
all of this money that goes from welfare scams to terrorists.
Now that actually does appear to be part of what's
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gone on in Minnesota this time.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Do you say all of this money like this is
a regular thing.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, it happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I mean, it's crazy the amount of fraud, especially, I
mean wasted abuse as well. And the thing about entitlements,
things like welfare, you know, we want, And the thing
that's so disgusting about welfare fraud is that it really
does take away from disadvantaged people who need it, you know,
single mothers and children and all of this stuff. And
these people in Minnesota, I almost said, Somalia, these people
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in Minnesota. A billion dollars was taken from starving children.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's awful.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And the people who took it are you know, driving
luxury cars, luxury watches, mansions. So it's really one of
the most grotesque frauds around. And then as I was
saying about the terrorism component the reports indicate.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I mean, even the New York Times, by the way.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Has reported on how egregious this particular EBT welfare fraud
was in Minnesota. And that's how you know it's really bad.
Some of this money was apparently making it to l
Shabab terror networks, and that tracks with what we found,
I mean, in our report that we put out in
twenty eighteen, we found that the Boston bombers were using
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welfare money to enable their schemes. Even the nine to
eleven hijackers, they're all kind of, you know, taking advantage
of welfare and what you need to know about a
terror attack, I mean, it seems maybe sort of obvious
that doesn't cost very much money to perpetrate an attack
like the Boston bombing was a pressure cooker and some
scrap metal, less than one hundred dollars really, And so
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when you're talking about billions of dollars and some of
that money flowing out of Minnesota, away from Minnesota taxpayers,
hungry children, et cetera, and going to terror networks overseas,
the full weight of the Justice.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Department needs to come crashing down on this.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And then you mentioned Tim Walls, and of course ilhan Omar,
this really does lead to Governor Wallas. He's the one
who basically he or his office swept it under the rug.
And as The New York Times reported, he was trying
to protect a key voting block. And so that's the
thing here that's really so insidious is that these migrants
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are voters for people like Tim Walls ilhan Omar, and
so they're willing to let them take food out of
the mouths of starving children. Some of it gets shipped
off to terrorism. I've not really seen a more egregious
case of welfare fraud here.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But when he talks about it, he's like, you can't
look into this because you're taking food out of the
mouths of babies, so you can't look into this. But
if you know that this has happened, and you know
that this money is being funneled in this way, and
in some of these there's like a weird connection with
elhan Omar, like she was with one of the organizers
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of all of this Rea fundraiser or something.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like she's she knows these people.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And yet she smugly went out on national TV and
was honestly like, well you know, if the FBI had
let it happen, it's their fault.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I can't do anything about it. And that is scary
to me that no one is holding her accountable.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And the New York Times reported again, and you know,
I don't cite the Hereork Times because they're particularly trustworthy,
but the admission against their interest here is so striking.
They reported that in Somalia, there is a culture where
will Illjan and Omar comes from and the fraudsters, there
is a culture of corruption much more. It's much more
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common over there than it is here. It's just kind
of like normal for you know, stealing and drifting off
of the government and getting coroni and corrupt contracts like
happened in Minnesota. And so for them to report that
is you know, that's not normal for the New York
Times to do that. And what you see time and again,
I mean there's all these viral clips right now on
social media, various Somalies from Minnesota. And of course not
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all Somalians are bad, but you see these viral clips.
I mean, there was a rap video that just went
viral from a Smali rapper in Minnesota. There's other clips
where the guys saying, yeah, what's the big deal. I mean,
you know, fraud happens all the time. We're talking a
billion dollars. So for Tim Walls to say that it's actually,
you know, to project that it's not this key voting
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block of his that was guilty. But instead, you know,
people who want to cut the programs, it's it's just
a little too rich, and this was.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, this is clearly taxpayer money.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
This is coming directly out of the welfare program, right,
But this is money that's going to I mean, it's
also money going to these organizations that are saying they're
managing how young people like children, single moms, children are
getting this food. So how do they how do they
do it? I mean, how do they funnel it through there?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's it's it's shocking.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I mean, how how inept our government is, whether by
design or just you know, by nature, or whether it's
intentionally they're looking the other way. But uh, the amount
of work we've done in the last year looking into
like the stuff dozes looking at whether it's the EPA
or we just had a report come out on the
Small Business Administration has this DEI program. Uh, the rules
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and and and just like what you have to say
to get a huge check from the government, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So there's really no oversight. There's really no accountability.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Once Congress, whether at the federal or state level, appropriates
money to a particular program, say they want to fund
the Child and Childless Hunger Initiative or they want to
fund some small business DEI program. Once that money has
been appropriated to the cause, the people who dole it out.
We just put out a report a five hundred and
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fifty million dollars grant. They were paying the contracting grant
officials in the government over a million dollars in bribes
and there was no oversight, no accountability. We really wouldn't
know about it except for the Small Business Administration has
really taken seriously looking at all this and DOGE, I mean,
the elements that still remain are still exposing every day
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new contracts and everyone more shocking than the last you.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Said, the elements that still remain of DOGE. Is that
a concern to you that there is not an actual
department that is I mean, there should be departments looking
at waste, broad and abuse, but this was a different level.
Is it a concern to you that those people are
not there to go to.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, it's I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think everybody's a little disappointed with how Doves sort
of fizzled out. We knew even before there was a
doge that reining in the spending from the Biden administration.
I mean, I don't know that people realize exactly how
much Joe Biden unleashed.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
At first, it was his COVID Bill that was over
a trillion.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Then he had the Immigrant or the Infrastructure in Jobs
Act that was another trillion and a half. And then
there was the notorious Inflation Reduction Act, which will I mean,
it's over a trillion basically now all told, I mean
six trillion dollars in spending in just four years. I mean,
it's staggering. They really couldn't get it out fast enough.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
The infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I always joked that the infrastructure money and I don't
even know if this is a joke, but we Michigan
got some infrastructure money, and some of this was supposed
to make up for the fact that there were people
in the state that couldn't get online during the pandemic,
and we don't want that to ever be the case again. Right,
So we've got to make sure that there is internet
access across the entire state. And this is like, you know,
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there's areas of Detroit where they weren't being able to
get on the internet. There were areas in the Upper
Peninsula where they couldn't get on the internet. I at
my house great internet, always have had great Internet, not
a problem whatsoever. This money comes into the state and
the next thing I know, there's someone digging up my
front yard and I'm like, what are you doing. Oh,
we're putting fiber in We've got and I said, why
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are you putting? Where is this coming from? Well, we've
got a contract. I said, where is who has the contract?
The city has the contract. Why does the city of
the contract? The state got this money, The state got
money to put to make sure that people who have
no internet access have the infrastructure to have internet access.
Suddenly Frontier comes in. They get a big contract of
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state funds that were really federal funds that came to
the state to put internet and nobody's monitoring where it's going.
So me, who, I already have great access, I'm getting
fiber in my front yard from a company who's getting
a massive amount of money to do it, but they're
getting money. And then the guy who's digging in the
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middle of my front yard, I'm like, do we have
to put this rate in the middle of my front yard?
Do we not have this box off to the side.
Why are we putting this box in the middle of
my front yard. That's a whole other issue.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
We moved it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But he comes to my yard and I said, well,
who do you work for. He's like, oh, I just
got the contract to dig the holes. So I just
have this map and this is where I'm supposed to
put these holes. Like this is a massive amount of
money that I'm not opposed to infrastructure, but we didn't
need this.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's like a lobbyist dream.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
It totally was so yeah, IJA the Infrastructure and Jobs Act,
Investment in Infrastructure and Jobs Act, that was perhaps one
of the most ingregients. I think the real the worst
was because there were so much There was fifty billion
dollars or something, and they definitely didn't spend all of
that on on putting in high speed internet all over
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the country. Apparently they just tore up your yard because
there are plenty of people who still don't have internet.
But it was.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, the people that need actually need it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right, And it was a huge handout to blue states.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean, we compared the amount of money that the
federal government gave to the states to spend, and it
happened to in a lot of swing states suspiciously. But
in any case, the Inflation Reduction Act was even worse,
I would say than that, because at least somebody was
doing something. I mean, it was bad work. I mean,
it's so canesy and like we'll pay people to day
calls and then we'll pay them to fill them back in.
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But the Inflation Reduction Act, I mean, we found over
one hundred billions first of all one hundred billion that
had flowed out of the Biden administration after President Trump
was elected in November twenty twenty four, but before he
was inaugurated, So in a ninety day span, over one
hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It was called gold bars off the Titanic.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I don't know if you saw that story involving EPA,
but also the Energy Department, the Agriculture Department for all
these programs that were just brand new, the Rural Access
to Internet or Rural Access to Energy program and it's.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Like shooting fish in a barrel. I mean, we've got
these spreadsheets.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
The database we've built is thousands and thousands of rows
long with entities like ACBLLC and things that had been
set up just ten days before they got the money,
and something that.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Was there, something where that what Stacy Abrams didn't she
get a bunch of money like twenty million dollars to
spend in a half an hour.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It was it was two billion to power forward communities.
That yeah, it was two billion to a entity that
had did not exist six months prior.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Totally a purpose the term is purpose built.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
If you look at a purpose built company for a
government grant is like it was just built to receive
money and they didn't even do anything with the money.
Nothing substantial anyway. And so my point with that, though,
is that Biden rushed through these three major spending bills,
the infrastructure one, the inflation one in the COVID one,
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up to six trillion dollars possibly more when Congress passed those.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
The way our constitution, our Supreme.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Court, our system is built is that when Congress passes
something and the president signs it, it's kind of sacrosanct.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's not easy to undo it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And so the real the fraud happened actually at the
congressional level and when Biden signed these bills. Because now
you bring into something like a Doge in a new administration,
you can't just cut the contracts. They were, you know,
lawfully you know, so it feels gross to say that,
but they were lawfully executed appropriation bills, and so Doge.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's why it had such a problem.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
As every single contract becomes a legal battle, it's almost infeasible.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. I think about just the whole
electric vehicle scam. I mean, this was something that was
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legislated on a state level, also.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
On a federal level.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, you had states like California where Newsom was like, oh,
by twenty eight you'll never have another gas powered vehicle
in the state.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
We won't allow it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
They forced the automotive industry to change their entire line.
So you think about it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You've got the government forcing this.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But then the government's like, don't worry, We're going to
give people so much money to buy these cars.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's going to suddenly go Suddenly, this is going to
catch on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It reminds me of when they put me into labor
early and they said at night, we're going to take
off the potosin in your body's probably just going to
go into labor and guess what, it didn't because that's
not how it worked, and that the same thing with
the automotive industry. People didn't just suddenly go oh, you
know what, yes, I want electric vehicles.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
They didn't sell.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The minute Biden was out of office, Trump was like, Okay,
we're done with paying people to buy cars. And then
suddenly the automotive industry, mysteriously, how funny, They're like, oh,
we're not going to get money from the government for
your cars. Then we're not actually going to make these
cars because we can't sell them. And now here I
am in the state of Michigan. I talked to a
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guy at Dollar General the other day that I used
to work with at the foundry, and I said, how's
it going, And he goes, well, I'm a Tier one
supplier to the automotive industry and they just shut down
all the EV lines.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's all a scam.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Oh and it has real world consequences like that. I
write about it a lot in the book Control of Arts.
I mean there's a whole chapter because this isn't just
bureaucratic incompetence. And that was the whole point of the book,
is that there is this class above the political class
who was actually pushing for these massive spending bills. And
it's not just political operatives like Stacy Abrams. And we
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can talk actually about how the left uses your tax
as a force multiplier for their own agenda, whether it's
open borders, resettling migrants, or get out the vote. We
have that rioting report. We could talk about that, but
it just for example. In the in the War on
Farmers chapter, I talk about how, why, how and why
Bill Gates is trying to buy up all this farmland
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and put you know, generation five, six seven, generation owned
farms out of business.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And why he is not a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
He's simultaneously invested in all of the largest alternative so
called alternative protein I call it fake meat or lab
grown meat companies like Beyond, you know, Beyond Burgers, Impossibles,
another thing that's not going to catch on exactly. So
they pumped all this money into a bunch of taxpayer money.
They use threats of like methane. You know, Alexandria Costio
Cortez did not just invent one day in her mind
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that cal flatulence is a threat to the environment that
comes from a you know, a bill I will int
the Gates Foundation or you know, similar white paper saying
that it is so that they can target the farmers.
And so the real world consequences is ask any.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Farmer, it is harder and harder. I mean, they're going
out of business.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can't really turn a profit because a the environmental regulations,
but then the subsidies. And at the same time, customers, consumers,
they don't want fake meat. So all of this money wasted,
people's lives wrecked to push a product that nobody wants.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's because they started with I mean, part of the
problem there is they started with like, look, you can
eat crickets and cockroaches and they're just as good. It's like, no,
thank you, and we will never eat We'll never eat that.
So we have all this money that is going into
all of this other stuff. But you talked about getting
out the vote, and you talked about riot inc and
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you talk about all of this. I want to get
into a little bit about how they have controlled this
narrative about Israel and Palestine and used that to get
people to come out and vote. And I say that
because we've just seen this horrific attack on Bondai Beach,
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and we saw that, we see this anti Semitism growing
across the country. And I do believe that there are
useful idiots that are like, oh, this is a message
that will get people to vote, and they don't even
realize that there's a bigger message, a more dangerous message
going out there. And I think we are seeing it
fivefold across the globe right now because of what's happening
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with American politics and the manipulation of money. So tell
us a little bit about rioting.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, So, at the White House roughly a month ago,
President Trump invited me and several other journalists like Andy
No Julio Rosas the people who are really on the
ground dealing with the Antifa threat. And the point I
brought was that none of this is organic. There's a
lot of domestic money, even your own taxpayer money, going
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into what we called riot inc, the protest industrial complex.
And you've seen it all year long, these anti ice
riots out in Portland, Seattle.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You know, in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
And so you know, we've because we had looked into
how much money these big left wing NGOs get Soros,
the Arabella funding network tides.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Nevill Roy Singham was one of the names that we
brought up at the White House.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
There's a huge foreign element here, like with the CCP
alignment with nevill Roy Singham.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He lives in China.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He's doing the bidding, we believe, of the CCP and
sowing these divisions and all of this chaos. He was
a big funder an organizer of the pro hamas rallies
in New York City after October seventh. He's also a
big funder of all of these anti Ice riots. He
was a huge funder of the BLM Rights of twenty twenty.
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And so he is sowing this division in this chaos
among many other forces, these radical left nngos, Soros Arabella types,
And so you know, we dug into that. We showed
that to President Trump. He was shocked our research to
the appropriate agencies. But we wanted to diggle even a
little further because we were wondering, why do they want
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to why are these riots so anti Ice? And what
we found is that the exact same big NGOs that
get your tax dollars, by the way, hundreds of millions
of them. They are the same ones who funded the
Biden border crisis. They are the same ones who brought
in ten million people and resettled them all throughout the country.
And we said, you know, that led to another question, Well,
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you know, do they just I mean, why do they
want to eliminate borders? Are they just total globalists? That's true,
but there's actually a commercial component here, and there's the
get out the vote component. So we found it's the
same players too. And Bill Gates was a huge funder
of Arabella over the past five years three hundred million.
You know, a lot of the other left wing tech
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oligarchs were big funders of these tides Arabella. You know,
there's the Ford Foundation, et cetera, Rockefeller Foundation. They're also
invested in the get out the vote operation. And so
there's a direct line from the open border to the
ballot box.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, whether they're.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Illegally getting people onto the voter rules or just wait,
it's a waiting game.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's a time game.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, within five years or less, they can become donors.
You know, people with green cards and permanent residence status,
can become donors, or eventually they can actually legally vote
if they're not getting on the roles illegally. And then
of course there's some precincts where they can actually legally vote.
Non citizens can vote in places like California, et cetera.
And then the final thing is apportionment. When you bring
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ten million people in and you distribute them to various
places like California, that gives them a lot more you know,
a dozen maybe in California representatives that they shouldn't have,
or you know, more than five ten. You know, there's
not really it's not clear how many left wing progressive
congress people we have specifically because of the large influx
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of migrants. But that's just another added benefit. So it's
commercial and it's also ideological.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, I'm glad that you brought up Nevill Roy Singham
at the White House because he is married to the
co founder of Code Pink, the co founder. The other
co founder is Medea Benjamin, and that is the person
who Marjorie Taylor Green has been posting that she's friends with,
which is very interesting to me because in twenty three
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she posted a tweet that said you know, I'm out
here with Code Pink talking to them and they're anti war,
but they have as soon as they made this connection
with Singham, there has been some they've been very pro
hamas they've been out there pro Palestine and they've been
they've stopped Jewish people in the halls of Congress and
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screamed from the river to the sea. I mean that
is a call for genocide. It's like literally looking at
someone and saying I wish you were dead. And they've
been doing this in the halls of Congress. I will
say those people should be tracked down on video and
they should be banned from the halls of Congress because
you should not be allowed to do that inside our
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sacred buildings. But they are doing that, they're calling, they're
saying that to people's faces, essentially, I want you dead.
Has How has that connection, How does that connection to
a Roy Singham change an organization like that.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean it's huge.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I mean Nevill Roy Singham again, he's funding not just
I mean it's a major funder of Code Pink, but
his People's Forum. We put out a report that actually
got some big traction his People's Forum and in Nevill
Roy Singham's funding to Cuba and to the venture most Brigade.
I could list half a dozen Cuban entities that are
directly tied to Cuban intelligence, Communist intelligence, and this group
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brought down over seven hundred American groups BLM activists, etc.
Down to Cuba to receive Marxist revolutionary training. The one
that put this on our radar was the Armed Queers
of Salt Lake City. This group kind of popped up
after the Charlie Kirk assassination. They you know, there's no
I'll be clear, there's no direct tie to Kirk's assassination,
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but everybody noticed it and we were able to scrape
all of their social media get videos of this group
down in Cuba getting their Marxist revolutionary training. We got
their whole substack before they took it down, and they
were talking about their goal is to overthrow the United States.
These are the kind of groups that Nevill Roy Singham
backs and brings down to Cuba.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And a lot of people know that Cuba had this
tie to.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Russia, you know, during the Cold War, but that has
really kind of turned into more of a China connection.
China has really set up out posts in Cuba, ninety miles.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
From our border. I'm down in Florida.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
It doesn't give us a great comfort to know that
just ninety miles away you have this CCP Foothold training
American citizens how to become revolutionary Marxists. But that's just
one of the many things. Nevill Roy Singam also funds
a group called TURLA. It was the coalition for I
think it's humane immigrant rights in Los Angeles. They were,
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you know, accused or Senator Hawley among others sent them
letters and they've been investigated for their role in the
violent anti ice riots out on the West coast. And
so like I mentioned the BLM stuff, the pro Hama
stuff after October seventh, and for Marjorie Taylor Green to
take one be in a photo to be friends with,
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I mean, I guess it's worse to be friends with
and like the photos just a total unforced error in
a long line of them.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So well, that's I think that's the stunning thing. Like
I said, for me, as I watched this, I'm like, okay.
In twenty three she went outside, she gets a picture
with them, she posts it, she says she's anti war.
We know that's been her stance for a long time.
She wants no foreign wars, she doesn't want the United
States to be involved in anything, Okay, But then there's
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this sudden switch in what seems to be her or
her allegiance to her constituents who voted for her because
they believed that she was a part of the Republican
Party and supported the policies of this administration, and she
suddenly completely shifted on that, and then she posts this like,
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I'm America first. I'm fully against funding foreign wars and
support peace because that's good for everyone, especially the most
innocent people children. I have enjoyed a friendship with Medea
for a few years now, even though politics says that's
not allowed.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Whoa wait a.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Minute, Politics doesn't say that's not allowed. I mean, your
values should say that's not allowed. This is somebody who
is pushing CCP propaganda in the United States that has
had people in the halls of Congress telling Jewish people
they wish they were dead. I mean, this is not
protection of young people. Is she misguided or has this
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total switch been because of this? Can?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I mean that is that is the These are the.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Questions that I have about what is going on with
Marjorie Taylor Green. But as you've pointed out, Code Pink
is out there doing these things and they are dangerous
for our country.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean, I've got I've got opinions on why
Marjorie Taylor Green has done this. I mean, you know,
there's been reporting and she got snubbed by the Trump administration,
didn't get an appointment. I don't really know why she
did this. I don't I don't know. I don't have
any evidence that it's like a financial reason. I think
it seems to sort of track that she realized that
she'd reached kind of the ceiling. You're not supposed to
give up though. I mean, you're I'm exactly right to
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mention her constituents. And so what this kind of looks
like is just really trying to stick it to Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean, you saw the video.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I may may a lot of people saw the video
went viral of the Code Pink activists getting up in
Donald Trump's face when he was trying to have dinner
at a restaurant. Seemed like a total national security thread.
I'm not sure how they were, you know, allowed to
do that, but they were swiftly kind of ushered out.
In any case, it's an obvious slap in the face
to President Trump to align with the group that is
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so anti Trump. And and she's been doing stuff like this
for a while, ever since apparently she got snubbed.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So, I mean, you make a great point. It certainly
begs the question he was at that restaurant that night.
She and Brian Glenn have been trusted people when it
comes to the administration, trusted by the president. Not many
people would have known he was going there that night,
and yet Code Pink showed up, And it just seems
like there could possibly be a connection to Marjorie Taylor
Green there. And I certainly hope that she would not
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have risked our national security for a vendetta. But I've
seen behavior out of her that I just have not
been able to comprehend and not understand. And I was
out on the campaign trail with her when we were
campaigning for Donald Trump, and certainly.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
There was no loss of loyalty there.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But you brought up the constituents, and I think that's
what is critical right now as we go into the midterms.
We have to be able to communicate these manipulations that
these groups are able to do when it is putting
money into some of these organizations and they're different in
no matter what state you're in, that they are on
the ground trying to manipulate our constituents to get them
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to vote a different way, and they're using our money
against us with radical propagandas and propaganda and lies.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, that's the thing that's so upsetting to me is
that they're you you know, these big groups and Nevill
Royce sing I mean, Turlo got close to one of
the groups that he's a funder of, got close to
fifty million dollars in taxpayer money. And so the the
left has gotten so effective as at like taking a
small chunk of private cash from people like Nevill roy
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Singham or Soros or Gates or whoever, and then augmenting
that with a massive amount of taxpayer money. And our
government spends so much money that is so hard for
I mean, it's a full time job for us and
a team of fifteen people and you still can't track
it all. And there's so many others who are also
doing this kind of work. So there's just so much
money flowing out that it's like they billions of dollars
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are going into left wing causes, and the same cannot
be said of the right wing. I mean, there's no
groups on the right that are using taxpayer money as
like get out the vote efforts.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So we don't necessarily know this
unless we have you on and you are putting these
notes out there all the time. So you're the director
of research at the Government Accountability Institute.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Tell people how they.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Can follow this stuff so that they can learn and
they can be smart and they can talk to their
neighbors about it.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, thank you so much, Tutor.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I am at Seamus Brunner on all platforms, mostly on Twitter,
Seamus's Sea m us b r u n Er. My
colleague Peter Schweitzer, He's at Peter Schwitz and we publish
all of the receipts and investigations at the drilldown dot com.
That's the drilldown dot com. That's where Schweizer hosts his
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podcast as well.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Thank you so much, Seamus Bruner, thank you for being.
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Here today, Thanks Tutor, and thank you all for joining
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, I have Seamus
Bruner with us. He is the director of research at
the Government Accountability Institute and author of Control of Garcs,
exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals, and the globalist
plot to dominate your life.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hey, Tudor, great to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
There's a lot going on, and I know you've been
out there talking about all of it. I think a
lot of people are wondering what exactly is happening in Minnesota.
We've heard about this like mystery billion dollars that has
gone missing and seems to be taken by the Somalian
community in some way. Elhan Omar, the congresswoman out there,
has been like kind of nonchalant, like, well it got lost,
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it's the FBI's fault. And Waltz, the governor, is just
like ho hum, things like this happen.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
What is going on? Yeah, So it's a it's a
pretty shocking story. I mean, usually the EBT fraud, welfare
fraud is in the millions, tens of millions. This case
in Minnesota tops one billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And that is obviously a huge amount of money.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We've been tracking EBT and welfare fraud really since before
twenty eighteen. We put out a report I work with
Peter Schweitzer. By the way, we follow the money. We
put out a report called eb Terrorism and it traced
all of this money that goes from welfare scams to terrorists.
Now that actually does appear to be part of what's
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gone on in Minnesota this time.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Do you say all of this money like this is
a regular thing.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, it happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I mean, it's crazy the amount of fraud, especially, I
mean wasted abuse as well. And the thing about entitlements,
things like welfare, you know, we want, And the thing
that's so disgusting about welfare fraud is that it really
does take away from disadvantaged people who need it, you know,
single mothers and children and all of this stuff. And
these people in Minnesota, I almost said, Somalia, these people
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in Minnesota. A billion dollars was taken from starving children.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's awful.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
And the people who took it are you know, driving
luxury cars, luxury watches, mansions. So it's really one of
the most grotesque frauds around. And then as I was
saying about the terrorism component the reports indicate.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I mean, even the New York Times, by the way.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Has reported on how egregious this particular EBT welfare fraud
was in Minnesota. And that's how you know it's really bad.
Some of this money was apparently making it to l
Shabab terror networks, and that tracks with what we found,
I mean, in our report that we put out in
twenty eighteen, we found that the Boston bombers were using
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welfare money to enable their schemes. Even the nine to
eleven hijackers, they're all kind of, you know, taking advantage
of welfare and what you need to know about a
terror attack, I mean, it seems maybe sort of obvious
that doesn't cost very much money to perpetrate an attack
like the Boston bombing was a pressure cooker and some
scrap metal, less than one hundred dollars really, And so
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when you're talking about billions of dollars and some of
that money flowing out of Minnesota, away from Minnesota taxpayers,
hungry children, et cetera, and going to terror networks overseas,
the full weight of the Justice.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Department needs to come crashing down on this.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And then you mentioned Tim Walls, and of course ilhan Omar,
this really does lead to Governor Wallas. He's the one
who basically he or his office swept it under the rug.
And as The New York Times reported, he was trying
to protect a key voting block. And so that's the
thing here that's really so insidious is that these migrants
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are voters for people like Tim Walls ilhan Omar, and
so they're willing to let them take food out of
the mouths of starving children. Some of it gets shipped
off to terrorism. I've not really seen a more egregious
case of welfare fraud here.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But when he talks about it, he's like, you can't
look into this because you're taking food out of the
mouths of babies, so you can't look into this. But
if you know that this has happened, and you know
that this money is being funneled in this way, and
in some of these there's like a weird connection with
elhan Omar, like she was with one of the organizers
(04:21):
of all of this Rea fundraiser or something.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like she's she knows these people.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And yet she smugly went out on national TV and
was honestly like, well you know, if the FBI had
let it happen, it's their fault.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I can't do anything about it. And that is scary
to me that no one is holding her accountable.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And the New York Times reported again, and you know,
I don't cite the Hereork Times because they're particularly trustworthy,
but the admission against their interest here is so striking.
They reported that in Somalia, there is a culture where
will Illjan and Omar comes from and the fraudsters, there
is a culture of corruption much more. It's much more
(05:04):
common over there than it is here. It's just kind
of like normal for you know, stealing and drifting off
of the government and getting coroni and corrupt contracts like
happened in Minnesota. And so for them to report that
is you know, that's not normal for the New York
Times to do that. And what you see time and again,
I mean there's all these viral clips right now on
social media, various Somalies from Minnesota. And of course not
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all Somalians are bad, but you see these viral clips.
I mean, there was a rap video that just went
viral from a Smali rapper in Minnesota. There's other clips
where the guys saying, yeah, what's the big deal. I mean,
you know, fraud happens all the time. We're talking a
billion dollars. So for Tim Walls to say that it's actually,
you know, to project that it's not this key voting
(05:47):
block of his that was guilty. But instead, you know,
people who want to cut the programs, it's it's just
a little too rich, and this was.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, this is clearly taxpayer money.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
This is coming directly out of the welfare program, right,
But this is money that's going to I mean, it's
also money going to these organizations that are saying they're
managing how young people like children, single moms, children are
getting this food. So how do they how do they
do it? I mean, how do they funnel it through there?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It's it's it's shocking.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I mean, how how inept our government is, whether by
design or just you know, by nature, or whether it's
intentionally they're looking the other way. But uh, the amount
of work we've done in the last year looking into
like the stuff dozes looking at whether it's the EPA
or we just had a report come out on the
Small Business Administration has this DEI program. Uh, the rules
(06:45):
and and and just like what you have to say
to get a huge check from the government, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
So there's really no oversight. There's really no accountability.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Once Congress, whether at the federal or state level, appropriates
money to a particular program, say they want to fund
the Child and Childless Hunger Initiative or they want to
fund some small business DEI program. Once that money has
been appropriated to the cause, the people who dole it out.
We just put out a report a five hundred and
(07:14):
fifty million dollars grant. They were paying the contracting grant
officials in the government over a million dollars in bribes
and there was no oversight, no accountability. We really wouldn't
know about it except for the Small Business Administration has
really taken seriously looking at all this and DOGE, I mean,
the elements that still remain are still exposing every day
(07:36):
new contracts and everyone more shocking than the last you.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Said, the elements that still remain of DOGE. Is that
a concern to you that there is not an actual
department that is I mean, there should be departments looking
at waste, broad and abuse, but this was a different level.
Is it a concern to you that those people are
not there to go to.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, it's I mean it was.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think everybody's a little disappointed with how Doves sort
of fizzled out. We knew even before there was a
doge that reining in the spending from the Biden administration.
I mean, I don't know that people realize exactly how
much Joe Biden unleashed.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
At first, it was his COVID Bill that was over
a trillion.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Then he had the Immigrant or the Infrastructure in Jobs
Act that was another trillion and a half. And then
there was the notorious Inflation Reduction Act, which will I mean,
it's over a trillion basically now all told, I mean
six trillion dollars in spending in just four years. I mean,
it's staggering. They really couldn't get it out fast enough.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
The infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I always joked that the infrastructure money and I don't
even know if this is a joke, but we Michigan
got some infrastructure money, and some of this was supposed
to make up for the fact that there were people
in the state that couldn't get online during the pandemic,
and we don't want that to ever be the case again. Right,
So we've got to make sure that there is internet
access across the entire state. And this is like, you know,
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there's areas of Detroit where they weren't being able to
get on the internet. There were areas in the Upper
Peninsula where they couldn't get on the internet. I at
my house great internet, always have had great Internet, not
a problem whatsoever. This money comes into the state and
the next thing I know, there's someone digging up my
front yard and I'm like, what are you doing. Oh,
we're putting fiber in We've got and I said, why
(09:24):
are you putting? Where is this coming from? Well, we've
got a contract. I said, where is who has the contract?
The city has the contract. Why does the city of
the contract? The state got this money, The state got
money to put to make sure that people who have
no internet access have the infrastructure to have internet access.
Suddenly Frontier comes in. They get a big contract of
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state funds that were really federal funds that came to
the state to put internet and nobody's monitoring where it's going.
So me, who, I already have great access, I'm getting
fiber in my front yard from a company who's getting
a massive amount of money to do it, but they're
getting money. And then the guy who's digging in the
(10:09):
middle of my front yard, I'm like, do we have
to put this rate in the middle of my front yard?
Do we not have this box off to the side.
Why are we putting this box in the middle of
my front yard. That's a whole other issue.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
We moved it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But he comes to my yard and I said, well,
who do you work for. He's like, oh, I just
got the contract to dig the holes. So I just
have this map and this is where I'm supposed to
put these holes. Like this is a massive amount of
money that I'm not opposed to infrastructure, but we didn't
need this.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's like a lobbyist dream.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
It totally was so yeah, IJA the Infrastructure and Jobs Act,
Investment in Infrastructure and Jobs Act, that was perhaps one
of the most ingregients. I think the real the worst
was because there were so much There was fifty billion
dollars or something, and they definitely didn't spend all of
that on on putting in high speed internet all over
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the country. Apparently they just tore up your yard because
there are plenty of people who still don't have internet.
But it was.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, the people that need actually need it.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right, And it was a huge handout to blue states.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I mean, we compared the amount of money that the
federal government gave to the states to spend, and it
happened to in a lot of swing states suspiciously. But
in any case, the Inflation Reduction Act was even worse,
I would say than that, because at least somebody was
doing something. I mean, it was bad work. I mean,
it's so canesy and like we'll pay people to day
calls and then we'll pay them to fill them back in.
(11:37):
But the Inflation Reduction Act, I mean, we found over
one hundred billions first of all one hundred billion that
had flowed out of the Biden administration after President Trump
was elected in November twenty twenty four, but before he
was inaugurated, So in a ninety day span, over one
hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It was called gold bars off the Titanic.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I don't know if you saw that story involving EPA,
but also the Energy Department, the Agriculture Department for all
these programs that were just brand new, the Rural Access
to Internet or Rural Access to Energy program and it's.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Like shooting fish in a barrel. I mean, we've got
these spreadsheets.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
The database we've built is thousands and thousands of rows
long with entities like ACBLLC and things that had been
set up just ten days before they got the money,
and something that.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Was there, something where that what Stacy Abrams didn't she
get a bunch of money like twenty million dollars to
spend in a half an hour.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
It was it was two billion to power forward communities.
That yeah, it was two billion to a entity that
had did not exist six months prior.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Totally a purpose the term is purpose built.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
If you look at a purpose built company for a
government grant is like it was just built to receive
money and they didn't even do anything with the money.
Nothing substantial anyway. And so my point with that, though,
is that Biden rushed through these three major spending bills,
the infrastructure one, the inflation one in the COVID one,
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up to six trillion dollars possibly more when Congress passed those.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
The way our constitution, our Supreme.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Court, our system is built is that when Congress passes
something and the president signs it, it's kind of sacrosanct.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's not easy to undo it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And so the real the fraud happened actually at the
congressional level and when Biden signed these bills. Because now
you bring into something like a Doge in a new administration,
you can't just cut the contracts. They were, you know,
lawfully you know, so it feels gross to say that,
but they were lawfully executed appropriation bills, and so Doge.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's why it had such a problem.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
As every single contract becomes a legal battle, it's almost infeasible.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. I think about just the whole
electric vehicle scam. I mean, this was something that was
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legislated on a state level, also.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
On a federal level.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean, you had states like California where Newsom was like, oh,
by twenty eight you'll never have another gas powered vehicle
in the state.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
We won't allow it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
They forced the automotive industry to change their entire line.
So you think about it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You've got the government forcing this.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But then the government's like, don't worry, We're going to
give people so much money to buy these cars.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's going to suddenly go Suddenly, this is going to
catch on.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
It reminds me of when they put me into labor
early and they said at night, we're going to take
off the potosin in your body's probably just going to
go into labor and guess what, it didn't because that's
not how it worked, and that the same thing with
the automotive industry. People didn't just suddenly go oh, you
know what, yes, I want electric vehicles.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
They didn't sell.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The minute Biden was out of office, Trump was like, Okay,
we're done with paying people to buy cars. And then
suddenly the automotive industry, mysteriously, how funny, They're like, oh,
we're not going to get money from the government for
your cars. Then we're not actually going to make these
cars because we can't sell them. And now here I
am in the state of Michigan. I talked to a
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guy at Dollar General the other day that I used
to work with at the foundry, and I said, how's
it going, And he goes, well, I'm a Tier one
supplier to the automotive industry and they just shut down
all the EV lines.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's all a scam.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Oh and it has real world consequences like that. I
write about it a lot in the book Control of Arts.
I mean there's a whole chapter because this isn't just
bureaucratic incompetence. And that was the whole point of the book,
is that there is this class above the political class
who was actually pushing for these massive spending bills. And
it's not just political operatives like Stacy Abrams. And we
(15:56):
can talk actually about how the left uses your tax
as a force multiplier for their own agenda, whether it's
open borders, resettling migrants, or get out the vote. We
have that rioting report. We could talk about that, but
it just for example. In the in the War on
Farmers chapter, I talk about how, why, how and why
Bill Gates is trying to buy up all this farmland
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and put you know, generation five, six seven, generation owned
farms out of business.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
And why he is not a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
He's simultaneously invested in all of the largest alternative so
called alternative protein I call it fake meat or lab
grown meat companies like Beyond, you know, Beyond Burgers, Impossibles,
another thing that's not going to catch on exactly. So
they pumped all this money into a bunch of taxpayer money.
They use threats of like methane. You know, Alexandria Costio
Cortez did not just invent one day in her mind
(16:48):
that cal flatulence is a threat to the environment that
comes from a you know, a bill I will int
the Gates Foundation or you know, similar white paper saying
that it is so that they can target the farmers.
And so the real world consequences is ask any.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Farmer, it is harder and harder. I mean, they're going
out of business.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can't really turn a profit because a the environmental regulations,
but then the subsidies. And at the same time, customers, consumers,
they don't want fake meat. So all of this money wasted,
people's lives wrecked to push a product that nobody wants.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's because they started with I mean, part of the
problem there is they started with like, look, you can
eat crickets and cockroaches and they're just as good. It's like, no,
thank you, and we will never eat We'll never eat that.
So we have all this money that is going into
all of this other stuff. But you talked about getting
out the vote, and you talked about riot inc and
(17:42):
you talk about all of this. I want to get
into a little bit about how they have controlled this
narrative about Israel and Palestine and used that to get
people to come out and vote. And I say that
because we've just seen this horrific attack on Bondai Beach,
(18:02):
and we saw that, we see this anti Semitism growing
across the country. And I do believe that there are
useful idiots that are like, oh, this is a message
that will get people to vote, and they don't even
realize that there's a bigger message, a more dangerous message
going out there. And I think we are seeing it
fivefold across the globe right now because of what's happening
(18:26):
with American politics and the manipulation of money. So tell
us a little bit about rioting.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, So, at the White House roughly a month ago,
President Trump invited me and several other journalists like Andy
No Julio Rosas the people who are really on the
ground dealing with the Antifa threat. And the point I
brought was that none of this is organic. There's a
lot of domestic money, even your own taxpayer money, going
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into what we called riot inc, the protest industrial complex.
And you've seen it all year long, these anti ice
riots out in Portland, Seattle.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You know, in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
And so you know, we've because we had looked into
how much money these big left wing NGOs get Soros,
the Arabella funding network tides.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Nevill Roy Singham was one of the names that we
brought up at the White House.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
There's a huge foreign element here, like with the CCP
alignment with nevill Roy Singham.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
He lives in China.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He's doing the bidding, we believe, of the CCP and
sowing these divisions and all of this chaos. He was
a big funder an organizer of the pro hamas rallies
in New York City after October seventh. He's also a
big funder of all of these anti Ice riots. He
was a huge funder of the BLM Rights of twenty twenty.
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And so he is sowing this division in this chaos
among many other forces, these radical left nngos, Soros Arabella types,
And so you know, we dug into that. We showed
that to President Trump. He was shocked our research to
the appropriate agencies. But we wanted to diggle even a
little further because we were wondering, why do they want
(20:09):
to why are these riots so anti Ice? And what
we found is that the exact same big NGOs that
get your tax dollars, by the way, hundreds of millions
of them. They are the same ones who funded the
Biden border crisis. They are the same ones who brought
in ten million people and resettled them all throughout the country.
And we said, you know, that led to another question, Well,
(20:30):
you know, do they just I mean, why do they
want to eliminate borders? Are they just total globalists? That's true,
but there's actually a commercial component here, and there's the
get out the vote component. So we found it's the
same players too. And Bill Gates was a huge funder
of Arabella over the past five years three hundred million.
You know, a lot of the other left wing tech
(20:51):
oligarchs were big funders of these tides Arabella. You know,
there's the Ford Foundation, et cetera, Rockefeller Foundation. They're also
invested in the get out the vote operation. And so
there's a direct line from the open border to the
ballot box.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, whether they're.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Illegally getting people onto the voter rules or just wait,
it's a waiting game.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It's a time game.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I mean, within five years or less, they can become donors.
You know, people with green cards and permanent residence status,
can become donors, or eventually they can actually legally vote
if they're not getting on the roles illegally. And then
of course there's some precincts where they can actually legally vote.
Non citizens can vote in places like California, et cetera.
And then the final thing is apportionment. When you bring
(21:36):
ten million people in and you distribute them to various
places like California, that gives them a lot more you know,
a dozen maybe in California representatives that they shouldn't have,
or you know, more than five ten. You know, there's
not really it's not clear how many left wing progressive
congress people we have specifically because of the large influx
(21:57):
of migrants. But that's just another added benefit. So it's
commercial and it's also ideological.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Well, I'm glad that you brought up Nevill Roy Singham
at the White House because he is married to the
co founder of Code Pink, the co founder. The other
co founder is Medea Benjamin, and that is the person
who Marjorie Taylor Green has been posting that she's friends with,
which is very interesting to me because in twenty three
(22:24):
she posted a tweet that said you know, I'm out
here with Code Pink talking to them and they're anti war,
but they have as soon as they made this connection
with Singham, there has been some they've been very pro
hamas they've been out there pro Palestine and they've been
they've stopped Jewish people in the halls of Congress and
(22:46):
screamed from the river to the sea. I mean that
is a call for genocide. It's like literally looking at
someone and saying I wish you were dead. And they've
been doing this in the halls of Congress. I will
say those people should be tracked down on video and
they should be banned from the halls of Congress because
you should not be allowed to do that inside our
(23:06):
sacred buildings. But they are doing that, they're calling, they're
saying that to people's faces, essentially, I want you dead.
Has How has that connection, How does that connection to
a Roy Singham change an organization like that.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean it's huge.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I mean Nevill Roy Singham again, he's funding not just
I mean it's a major funder of Code Pink, but
his People's Forum. We put out a report that actually
got some big traction his People's Forum and in Nevill
Roy Singham's funding to Cuba and to the venture most Brigade.
I could list half a dozen Cuban entities that are
directly tied to Cuban intelligence, Communist intelligence, and this group
(23:47):
brought down over seven hundred American groups BLM activists, etc.
Down to Cuba to receive Marxist revolutionary training. The one
that put this on our radar was the Armed Queers
of Salt Lake City. This group kind of popped up
after the Charlie Kirk assassination. They you know, there's no
I'll be clear, there's no direct tie to Kirk's assassination,
(24:09):
but everybody noticed it and we were able to scrape
all of their social media get videos of this group
down in Cuba getting their Marxist revolutionary training. We got
their whole substack before they took it down, and they
were talking about their goal is to overthrow the United States.
These are the kind of groups that Nevill Roy Singham
backs and brings down to Cuba.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And a lot of people know that Cuba had this
tie to.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Russia, you know, during the Cold War, but that has
really kind of turned into more of a China connection.
China has really set up out posts in Cuba, ninety miles.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
From our border. I'm down in Florida.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
It doesn't give us a great comfort to know that
just ninety miles away you have this CCP Foothold training
American citizens how to become revolutionary Marxists. But that's just
one of the many things. Nevill Roy Singam also funds
a group called TURLA. It was the coalition for I
think it's humane immigrant rights in Los Angeles. They were,
(25:06):
you know, accused or Senator Hawley among others sent them
letters and they've been investigated for their role in the
violent anti ice riots out on the West coast. And
so like I mentioned the BLM stuff, the pro Hama
stuff after October seventh, and for Marjorie Taylor Green to
take one be in a photo to be friends with,
(25:28):
I mean, I guess it's worse to be friends with
and like the photos just a total unforced error in
a long line of them.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So well, that's I think that's the stunning thing. Like
I said, for me, as I watched this, I'm like, okay.
In twenty three she went outside, she gets a picture
with them, she posts it, she says she's anti war.
We know that's been her stance for a long time.
She wants no foreign wars, she doesn't want the United
States to be involved in anything, Okay, But then there's
(25:57):
this sudden switch in what seems to be her or
her allegiance to her constituents who voted for her because
they believed that she was a part of the Republican
Party and supported the policies of this administration, and she
suddenly completely shifted on that, and then she posts this like,
(26:18):
I'm America first. I'm fully against funding foreign wars and
support peace because that's good for everyone, especially the most
innocent people children. I have enjoyed a friendship with Medea
for a few years now, even though politics says that's
not allowed.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Whoa wait a.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Minute, Politics doesn't say that's not allowed. I mean, your
values should say that's not allowed. This is somebody who
is pushing CCP propaganda in the United States that has
had people in the halls of Congress telling Jewish people
they wish they were dead. I mean, this is not
protection of young people. Is she misguided or has this
(26:57):
total switch been because of this? Can?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I mean that is that is the These are the.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Questions that I have about what is going on with
Marjorie Taylor Green. But as you've pointed out, Code Pink
is out there doing these things and they are dangerous
for our country.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean, I've got I've got opinions on why
Marjorie Taylor Green has done this. I mean, you know,
there's been reporting and she got snubbed by the Trump administration,
didn't get an appointment. I don't really know why she
did this. I don't I don't know. I don't have
any evidence that it's like a financial reason. I think
it seems to sort of track that she realized that
she'd reached kind of the ceiling. You're not supposed to
give up though. I mean, you're I'm exactly right to
(27:36):
mention her constituents. And so what this kind of looks
like is just really trying to stick it to Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean, you saw the video.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I may may a lot of people saw the video
went viral of the Code Pink activists getting up in
Donald Trump's face when he was trying to have dinner
at a restaurant. Seemed like a total national security thread.
I'm not sure how they were, you know, allowed to
do that, but they were swiftly kind of ushered out.
In any case, it's an obvious slap in the face
to President Trump to align with the group that is
(28:05):
so anti Trump. And and she's been doing stuff like this
for a while, ever since apparently she got snubbed.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So, I mean, you make a great point. It certainly
begs the question he was at that restaurant that night.
She and Brian Glenn have been trusted people when it
comes to the administration, trusted by the president. Not many
people would have known he was going there that night,
and yet Code Pink showed up, And it just seems
like there could possibly be a connection to Marjorie Taylor
Green there. And I certainly hope that she would not
(28:33):
have risked our national security for a vendetta. But I've
seen behavior out of her that I just have not
been able to comprehend and not understand. And I was
out on the campaign trail with her when we were
campaigning for Donald Trump, and certainly.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
There was no loss of loyalty there.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But you brought up the constituents, and I think that's
what is critical right now as we go into the midterms.
We have to be able to communicate these manipulations that
these groups are able to do when it is putting
money into some of these organizations and they're different in
no matter what state you're in, that they are on
the ground trying to manipulate our constituents to get them
(29:10):
to vote a different way, and they're using our money
against us with radical propagandas and propaganda and lies.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, that's the thing that's so upsetting to me is
that they're you you know, these big groups and Nevill
Royce sing I mean, Turlo got close to one of
the groups that he's a funder of, got close to
fifty million dollars in taxpayer money. And so the the
left has gotten so effective as at like taking a
small chunk of private cash from people like Nevill roy
(29:41):
Singham or Soros or Gates or whoever, and then augmenting
that with a massive amount of taxpayer money. And our
government spends so much money that is so hard for
I mean, it's a full time job for us and
a team of fifteen people and you still can't track
it all. And there's so many others who are also
doing this kind of work. So there's just so much
money flowing out that it's like they billions of dollars
(30:05):
are going into left wing causes, and the same cannot
be said of the right wing. I mean, there's no
groups on the right that are using taxpayer money as
like get out the vote efforts.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So we don't necessarily know this
unless we have you on and you are putting these
notes out there all the time. So you're the director
of research at the Government Accountability Institute.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Tell people how they.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Can follow this stuff so that they can learn and
they can be smart and they can talk to their
neighbors about it.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, thank you so much, Tutor.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I am at Seamus Brunner on all platforms, mostly on Twitter,
Seamus's Sea m us b r u n Er. My
colleague Peter Schweitzer, He's at Peter Schwitz and we publish
all of the receipts and investigations at the drilldown dot com.
That's the drilldown dot com. That's where Schweizer hosts his
(31:10):
podcast as well.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Thank you so much, Seamus Bruner, thank you for being.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Here today, Thanks Tutor, and thank you all for joining
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