July 5, 2025 • 12 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Jaco Booyens, a leading advocate against sex trafficking, discuss the failures of the judicial system in prosecuting high-profile trafficking cases like Diddy’s. Booyens warns that efforts to legalize sex work, such as New York’s proposed legislation, would undermine American values and increase exploitation, especially of children. The episode highlights the emotional toll on survivors, the low prosecution rates for trafficking crimes, and urges listeners to oppose policies that normalize exploitation and threaten the fabric of the nuclear family. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I have a guest with me today. He is
one of my favorite people to talk to. He actually
is somebody who's out there fighting sex trafficking every day,
which I appreciate. Having four daughters, he has taught me
so much about keeping my kids safe. But I felt like, Wow,
with all this stuff going on with Diddy right now,
it would be great to have Yaku Boyance here. So
(00:20):
I want to welcome you to the program. Thank you
so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yaku, Thank you, Tudor so kind of you and you're
the best of the best. It's good to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, thanks for being here. You have some things going
on in Texas too. I want to get to that.
But first, what is your opinion on what happened with Diddy?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Tutor? This is an utter failure of the judicial system.
Today is a very dark day. And if you could
look at my text feat today from survivors of trafficking
texting me organizations in the fight, they are they are demotivated.
(01:04):
They are depleted because we work so hard to rescue
a single life and then to to have it play
out in the media, to parade a survivor like Akie
Ventura likeded it with Virginia Guffrey and then to have
the justice system fail again. This case was not built
(01:26):
right from the first day, and I reached down to
prosecutors when they took this case. We offered support from
from industry experts, saying, look, can you build this case differently.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's all good that they because your sister was trafficked
in the music industry.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know, yeah, and so yeah, you're right. So within
human trafficking music specifically is very very personal to us
because in Lanca was trafficked through the music business through
an American record label. This is her story. We know
this story inside out. And so the case was not
(02:04):
built right. The prosecutors did a very poor job in
building this case. The way they present survivors to a jury.
Judges do not understand the crime. Jury does not understand force, fraud, coercion.
When they drop fifty percent of the text trafficking charges.
On Friday, I messaged most of the organizations and said,
(02:26):
this is not going to go well, this is going
this is going to be horrific. You know, acquitting him
from racketeering and both human trafficking charges he's not guilty
of according to them, right, and so yes, transportation prostitution
of Missentura, transportation prostitution for Jane Doe, maximum sentence of tenure.
(02:48):
Each is not going to get that. He's probably going
to get bail. He's probably going to be home for
fourth of July, and he may he may serve a
fraction of it and then and then get off of
good behavior. This is going to be a bit of
a Marca Stuart scenario, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of I think he comes right home.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think he's going to be home for a bit,
and then he's going to get sentenced, and I do
think he serves time, but he will not serve the
sentence he's going to get. He's going to be out Sadly.
You're going to see this guy make records and people
are going to buy his concert tickets. And you know
who's losing your tutor, not just Miss Ventura, every victim.
(03:31):
If you can see what the survivors are writing to me,
it is people don't know this. Only one point seven
percent of victims of human trafficking ever speak out, one
point seven percent. Now you're taking a one point seven
percent person who puts her name out there. She's paraded
(03:51):
out there, and now the world. The law is telling
her you're a liar, you're wrong, none of this happened.
Her life is destroyed.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Doesn't that frustrate you that they built this case wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Then it's unbelievably frustrating. And we warned them. We warned
them it is a particular way you built these cases.
If your key witness is a survivor, there's certain things
you have to do and don't do, and you cannot
hang a case this sophisticated. We're talking about two decades
(04:26):
of freak offs and you're going to build the case
around a single person. The pressure on that survivor, it's insurmountable,
it's not plus. This is what they did with Virginia
Goffray in Epstein. What did they say. They looked at
for a time when she lied about something, and they
came and said she's not a credible witness, and they
start cutting at her credibility in front of the public
(04:49):
in an audience, and they dismantle a survivor of trafficking
by questioning their testimony, by questioning their trauma. Right, there
was no trauma informed therapy witness and testimony here, no
no human behavioral science with trauma nobody explained to this
(05:09):
this jury, how a survivor remembers in phases that its
subliminals bury trauma is buried, that this triggering happening. When
they asked her, what was there ever a time? This
is so, this is so cynical. Was there ever a
time when you were consensual with mister Comps? And no
(05:31):
answer is so?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Then that takes away all of her credibility.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She legitimately loved him.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, well, but that's what you've told me. So oftentimes
there is there is someone that is keeping them there,
that is keeping them from saying anything because they think
it's love. Because the manipulation is there, and that is
the danger of this. But that's I think to the
American people right now, they're going, Okay, well, if Epstein
can't be caught and did he can't be caught, then
(05:57):
why even try?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Exactly Now, if the public thinks that tutor, what do
you think a victim? This is a high profile case.
We have thirteen cases we're working right now, thirteen in
our organization. Some of them are twelve years old. The
twelve year old you don't know her name. Her family
is not getting financial support, They're not getting media attention.
(06:20):
She's got some low level prosecutor in the DA's office
in her home town that just tells us there's no
way you get text track. We're not even going to
try a sex trafficking case. We're going to plete this
down to a marijuana charge, an illegal arms charge, at
kidnapping charge. They're not even going to court on sex trafficking.
It's only these hope. Here's the statistics at a federal
(06:42):
level on sex trafficking. When the charge is sex trafficking,
all right, those cases go to court. Only thirteen percent
of those cases in the States go to court thirty percent.
Any other felony, every other felony. We're releasing a white
paper on this next week that I would love for
(07:03):
you to help distribute. This white paper plays this wide open.
Any other felony at a federal level is prosecuted at
ninety two percent. Sex crimes, particularly against children and women,
men and boys thirteen percent. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We we started this show, this program today talking about
Mam Donnie in New York and one of the things
that he came out and said is he wants to
legalize sex work, which is you know, a prostitution. And
you would have these men who would own women and
they would be a part of this group that they
would sell their bodies. And to me, this all sounds
(07:41):
like good nightmare. When you hear this man saying this
in the most powerful city in the world, what do
you think based on what you know?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It is an absolute dismantling of the American culture, one
nation under God, what our founding fathers came here for.
It is the most sadistic undermining of who we are
as Americans. It will eat the nuclear family to its core.
You will not recognize America. Now, remember he is an
offspring of some champions, the biggest and by the way,
(08:15):
the movement is called the full d crim movement to
fully decriminalize the cell and purchase of sex including children. Okay,
you can own a slave. That movement in this country
has so much momentum. JB. Pritzker, the Governor of Illinois,
is the champion of this movement in this country. Him
(08:36):
and he's brother, Gavin Newsom, is on this movement. Now,
this mad man, absolute mad man, mad man in New
York is advocating for this in New York and he's
getting support. Let me give an example, if his law
was in place, did he would have been walking free
of all charges today because the transportation to prostate gone
(09:02):
every city in the world and there's been five cities
in the world that have instituted over time, and most
of them have dropped it. The decriminalization of sexual enterprise,
the trafficking of children on average went up over one
thousand percent. It's like saying, look at Balder Colorado and
Balder they said, you know what THHC is illegal? Do
(09:24):
you know that every illicit drug went up over eighty
six percent when they legalized THHC marijuana. You can't say, well,
you can own a person and sell them, but nobody's
going to sell children.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
This is well and then and also if you can
own a person, I mean you called it slavery. If
you can own a person and sell them for one thing,
when does it end, where does it stop?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It doesn't. It's slavery for straight up slavery in a
land that in our constitution our founding father said with
leaving the grips of a tyrant king right, this is Look,
every person in New York, if they hear my voice,
if you stand with that, man will be single handedly
responsible for human beings being enslaved.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You know you're saying this. You are saying this to me,
and it makes me realize he was one of three
people in the New York legislature that voted against banning
revenge porn. He did not want to ban revenge porn.
And that to me, I'm like, oh my goodness, everything
I know from you tells me that that's how these
guys control these women. So if he wants to torture women,
(10:29):
if he wants to make sex work legal, he wants
to then also make it legal to hold this over
their heads and to torture the people that they own.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Tutor, look at his faith. This is going to be controversial.
I'm going to say this right now. I'm not speaking
for Bucking the Boys. I'm not speaking for you, I'm
not speaking for the network. I'm speaking out of thirty
one years experience fighting this demon okay, fighting human trafficking,
fighting fighting immorality, sexual immorality. Look at his faith, look
(11:00):
at each core. There are certain faiths on this planet
that believe you can sell people, own them, demean them.
You can sell an eight year old child as a
child bright, You can have sex with a child. We
are playing with demons in this country. We're playing with fire.
New York will fall in fashion that you cannot fathom.
(11:21):
And the sad part is when that happens, you don't
just pick it up in the next midterm and fix it.
People get broken in levels where you can't fix them.
The abuse level will go through the roof. You want
to see persecution of Jews? Do you know what's happening
in London at the moment. London has no go zones.
(11:41):
I work with Scotland Yard, I work with the House
of Lords in London. There's British citizens Americans, sorry, British
citizens that marry into a particular faith sect that does
not frown upon the sexual abuse of women. And the
police force will not defend British citizens because they're saying
(12:03):
you're under that law. Now you've played yourself. We have
surreal law birthing up in Anna, Texas, Frisco, Texas, across
this country. There's things happening in this country and the
result is going to be women and children will be abused.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
This is why I wanted to have you on because
I knew you would speak truth and I appreciate it.
And I thank you and I want to you know, well,
I'll have you back on the podcast. And that's why
I tell people go to the podcast, to the Tutor
Dixon podcast at Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Check it out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We've had yaku on several times. Yakuboyans, thank you so
much for being on today. Thank you for sharing these
hard truths. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Thank you, Tutor
And I have a guest with me today. He is
one of my favorite people to talk to. He actually
is somebody who's out there fighting sex trafficking every day,
which I appreciate. Having four daughters, he has taught me
so much about keeping my kids safe. But I felt like, Wow,
with all this stuff going on with Diddy right now,
it would be great to have Yaku Boyance here. So
(00:20):
I want to welcome you to the program. Thank you
so much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yaku, Thank you, Tudor so kind of you and you're
the best of the best. It's good to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, thanks for being here. You have some things going
on in Texas too. I want to get to that.
But first, what is your opinion on what happened with Diddy?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Tutor? This is an utter failure of the judicial system.
Today is a very dark day. And if you could
look at my text feat today from survivors of trafficking
texting me organizations in the fight, they are they are demotivated.
(01:04):
They are depleted because we work so hard to rescue
a single life and then to to have it play
out in the media, to parade a survivor like Akie
Ventura likeded it with Virginia Guffrey and then to have
the justice system fail again. This case was not built
(01:26):
right from the first day, and I reached down to
prosecutors when they took this case. We offered support from
from industry experts, saying, look, can you build this case differently.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's all good that they because your sister was trafficked
in the music industry.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
You know, yeah, and so yeah, you're right. So within
human trafficking music specifically is very very personal to us
because in Lanca was trafficked through the music business through
an American record label. This is her story. We know
this story inside out. And so the case was not
(02:04):
built right. The prosecutors did a very poor job in
building this case. The way they present survivors to a jury.
Judges do not understand the crime. Jury does not understand force, fraud, coercion.
When they drop fifty percent of the text trafficking charges.
On Friday, I messaged most of the organizations and said,
(02:26):
this is not going to go well, this is going
this is going to be horrific. You know, acquitting him
from racketeering and both human trafficking charges he's not guilty
of according to them, right, and so yes, transportation prostitution
of Missentura, transportation prostitution for Jane Doe, maximum sentence of tenure.
(02:48):
Each is not going to get that. He's probably going
to get bail. He's probably going to be home for
fourth of July, and he may he may serve a
fraction of it and then and then get off of
good behavior. This is going to be a bit of
a Marca Stuart scenario, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of I think he comes right home.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think he's going to be home for a bit,
and then he's going to get sentenced, and I do
think he serves time, but he will not serve the
sentence he's going to get. He's going to be out Sadly.
You're going to see this guy make records and people
are going to buy his concert tickets. And you know
who's losing your tutor, not just Miss Ventura, every victim.
(03:31):
If you can see what the survivors are writing to me,
it is people don't know this. Only one point seven
percent of victims of human trafficking ever speak out, one
point seven percent. Now you're taking a one point seven
percent person who puts her name out there. She's paraded
(03:51):
out there, and now the world. The law is telling
her you're a liar, you're wrong, none of this happened.
Her life is destroyed.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Doesn't that frustrate you that they built this case wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Then it's unbelievably frustrating. And we warned them. We warned
them it is a particular way you built these cases.
If your key witness is a survivor, there's certain things
you have to do and don't do, and you cannot
hang a case this sophisticated. We're talking about two decades
(04:26):
of freak offs and you're going to build the case
around a single person. The pressure on that survivor, it's insurmountable,
it's not plus. This is what they did with Virginia
Goffray in Epstein. What did they say. They looked at
for a time when she lied about something, and they
came and said she's not a credible witness, and they
start cutting at her credibility in front of the public
(04:49):
in an audience, and they dismantle a survivor of trafficking
by questioning their testimony, by questioning their trauma. Right, there
was no trauma informed therapy witness and testimony here, no
no human behavioral science with trauma nobody explained to this
(05:09):
this jury, how a survivor remembers in phases that its
subliminals bury trauma is buried, that this triggering happening. When
they asked her, what was there ever a time? This
is so, this is so cynical. Was there ever a
time when you were consensual with mister Comps? And no
(05:31):
answer is so?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Then that takes away all of her credibility.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She legitimately loved him.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, well, but that's what you've told me. So oftentimes
there is there is someone that is keeping them there,
that is keeping them from saying anything because they think
it's love. Because the manipulation is there, and that is
the danger of this. But that's I think to the
American people right now, they're going, Okay, well, if Epstein
can't be caught and did he can't be caught, then
(05:57):
why even try?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Exactly Now, if the public thinks that tutor, what do
you think a victim? This is a high profile case.
We have thirteen cases we're working right now, thirteen in
our organization. Some of them are twelve years old. The
twelve year old you don't know her name. Her family
is not getting financial support, They're not getting media attention.
(06:20):
She's got some low level prosecutor in the DA's office
in her home town that just tells us there's no
way you get text track. We're not even going to
try a sex trafficking case. We're going to plete this
down to a marijuana charge, an illegal arms charge, at
kidnapping charge. They're not even going to court on sex trafficking.
It's only these hope. Here's the statistics at a federal
(06:42):
level on sex trafficking. When the charge is sex trafficking,
all right, those cases go to court. Only thirteen percent
of those cases in the States go to court thirty percent.
Any other felony, every other felony. We're releasing a white
paper on this next week that I would love for
(07:03):
you to help distribute. This white paper plays this wide open.
Any other felony at a federal level is prosecuted at
ninety two percent. Sex crimes, particularly against children and women,
men and boys thirteen percent. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We we started this show, this program today talking about
Mam Donnie in New York and one of the things
that he came out and said is he wants to
legalize sex work, which is you know, a prostitution. And
you would have these men who would own women and
they would be a part of this group that they
would sell their bodies. And to me, this all sounds
(07:41):
like good nightmare. When you hear this man saying this
in the most powerful city in the world, what do
you think based on what you know?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It is an absolute dismantling of the American culture, one
nation under God, what our founding fathers came here for.
It is the most sadistic undermining of who we are
as Americans. It will eat the nuclear family to its core.
You will not recognize America. Now, remember he is an
offspring of some champions, the biggest and by the way,
(08:15):
the movement is called the full d crim movement to
fully decriminalize the cell and purchase of sex including children. Okay,
you can own a slave. That movement in this country
has so much momentum. JB. Pritzker, the Governor of Illinois,
is the champion of this movement in this country. Him
(08:36):
and he's brother, Gavin Newsom, is on this movement. Now,
this mad man, absolute mad man, mad man in New
York is advocating for this in New York and he's
getting support. Let me give an example, if his law
was in place, did he would have been walking free
of all charges today because the transportation to prostate gone
(09:02):
every city in the world and there's been five cities
in the world that have instituted over time, and most
of them have dropped it. The decriminalization of sexual enterprise,
the trafficking of children on average went up over one
thousand percent. It's like saying, look at Balder Colorado and
Balder they said, you know what THHC is illegal? Do
(09:24):
you know that every illicit drug went up over eighty
six percent when they legalized THHC marijuana. You can't say, well,
you can own a person and sell them, but nobody's
going to sell children.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
This is well and then and also if you can
own a person, I mean you called it slavery. If
you can own a person and sell them for one thing,
when does it end, where does it stop?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It doesn't. It's slavery for straight up slavery in a
land that in our constitution our founding father said with
leaving the grips of a tyrant king right, this is Look,
every person in New York, if they hear my voice,
if you stand with that, man will be single handedly
responsible for human beings being enslaved.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You know you're saying this. You are saying this to me,
and it makes me realize he was one of three
people in the New York legislature that voted against banning
revenge porn. He did not want to ban revenge porn.
And that to me, I'm like, oh my goodness, everything
I know from you tells me that that's how these
guys control these women. So if he wants to torture women,
(10:29):
if he wants to make sex work legal, he wants
to then also make it legal to hold this over
their heads and to torture the people that they own.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Tutor, look at his faith. This is going to be controversial.
I'm going to say this right now. I'm not speaking
for Bucking the Boys. I'm not speaking for you, I'm
not speaking for the network. I'm speaking out of thirty
one years experience fighting this demon okay, fighting human trafficking,
fighting fighting immorality, sexual immorality. Look at his faith, look
(11:00):
at each core. There are certain faiths on this planet
that believe you can sell people, own them, demean them.
You can sell an eight year old child as a
child bright, You can have sex with a child. We
are playing with demons in this country. We're playing with fire.
New York will fall in fashion that you cannot fathom.
(11:21):
And the sad part is when that happens, you don't
just pick it up in the next midterm and fix it.
People get broken in levels where you can't fix them.
The abuse level will go through the roof. You want
to see persecution of Jews? Do you know what's happening
in London at the moment. London has no go zones.
(11:41):
I work with Scotland Yard, I work with the House
of Lords in London. There's British citizens Americans, sorry, British
citizens that marry into a particular faith sect that does
not frown upon the sexual abuse of women. And the
police force will not defend British citizens because they're saying
(12:03):
you're under that law. Now you've played yourself. We have
surreal law birthing up in Anna, Texas, Frisco, Texas, across
this country. There's things happening in this country and the
result is going to be women and children will be abused.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
This is why I wanted to have you on because
I knew you would speak truth and I appreciate it.
And I thank you and I want to you know, well,
I'll have you back on the podcast. And that's why
I tell people go to the podcast, to the Tutor
Dixon podcast at Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Check it out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We've had yaku on several times. Yakuboyans, thank you so
much for being on today. Thank you for sharing these
hard truths. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Thank you, Tutor
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