In this episode, Tudor speaks with Kim Cantin, a survivor of the devastating Montecito mudslide in 2018, which claimed the lives of her husband and son. Kim shares her harrowing experience during the disaster, the miraculous rescue of her daughter, and the long journey of healing and recovery that followed. The conversation delves into themes of faith, community support, and finding meaning in loss, culminating in the release of Kim's memoir, 'Where the Yellow Flowers Bloom,' which aims to inspire others facing similar tragedies. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we're gonna We're
going to go through a survivor story. We've all been
watching as the families have been mourning the losses of
the Texas flooding, the campground that I think everybody, as
a parent has watched these parents learn that their children
didn't survive the flooding. And I think that many of us,
(00:23):
if we know someone who is involved, we're trying to
figure out how to support them and if we don't,
I think that so many. I mean, I know from
my perspective, I've watched this as a parent, and I've thought,
I can't I can't imagine what it's like afterward. What
the question the questions that you have, what their last
moments were like, and just what you how do you sleep?
(00:45):
How do you survive? How do you move on? And
we're so blessed to be grace today with Kim Canton.
She actually survived a very similar situation, a deadly twenty
eighteen mud slide in Montecito was a now disaster. This
was twenty three people that lost their lives and Kim,
your husband and your son were among those people. And
(01:08):
thank you so much for coming today to share your story.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you for having me. Absolutely so yeah, I'll tell
you a little bit of what happened. It was eerily similar,
I think, because it was in the dark, in the
middle of the night, right that part of the mountain
came down, and there had been a forest one of
the largest wildfires in California history the month prior, and
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it took all the foliage out of the mountains. And
Santa Barbara's kind of where the mountain meets the sea.
There's mountain range, there's about four miles and then there's
Pacific Ocean. And so there was carcis boulders sitting precariously
on the hillside, and I looked at those houses, thinking, oh,
I feel so bad for those people. Our house was
down in the village, so we weren't very concerned where
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I was concerned about the houses up on the hillside
with the boulders. And what happened sadly and was about
thirty days later. There was torrential rain and about half
an inch fell in fifteen minutes. And on top of that,
there were seven water mains in the mountain that all
gave way, so it was like Niagara Falls on top
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of torrential rain. And when you have a forest fire,
you know, what it leaves is kind of like a
plastic soot, I would say. And so it just slid down.
And so in the dark at about three in the morning,
the mountain came down and a neighbor across the lane
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from us and near the creek, he looked over at
our house and car sized boulders jammed up unto the
underpass and you'd hear the zing, zing zing. We didn't
know what was happening in the house. We were all
up trying to get dressed to get out. We knew
the heavy rain, and the neighbor said he saw a
thirty foot wave plume up around the curve of the creek,
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but it couldn't go anywhere because it jammed up boulders,
and it crashed down on our house with my family
in it. And my husband was on you know, he
had he had seen it. He'd open the front door
and he says, back door now, and he ran to
the backyard and there was a glass glass door there
and he was on the other side of the door saying, Kim,
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get out, get out, get out. But my hand got
stuck in the door. And by the time they'll wear
and beware, alarm went off on my phone. I was
chest deep in mud and I had watched my Irish
setter dog get rolled over with mud, and you know,
as it filled up in the house. My son and
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my daughter were in different parts in the house. My
daughter had run to get her rain boots when my
husband said, get dressed, let's get out. My son probably
went to his room to get his computer. And my
fourteen year old daughter was washed away but a football
field and buried alive under twenty feet of mud for
six hours with just a tiny pocket of air the
size of a volleyball with a teeny tiny hole. She'd
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push on her entument and it didn't budge, and she
screamed and screamed and screamed. I was washed away two
football fields, found in a debris pile in an intersection,
wrapped in electrical wires, severely injured. And you know when
when I got rescued, I was in the hospital at
(04:26):
about eight thirty in the morning, So I was on
that debris pile for quite a long time. And at
about ten thirty that I heard the door open and
they said, you have a daughter named Lauren, I said, yes,
I do, and they said they just rescued her, and
her rescue was shown around the world because it was
like phoenix rising that she was able to survive what
she endured and there's part of a roof over her.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
How did they know where she was? They heard her screaming?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, it was actually I think angels were with us
that day, because when they came to find me on
the in the intersection debris pile, they said, where was
your home? Which was scary for me to hear the
was and I thought, I must be in my backyard somewhere, right,
And I just took my one hand that worked, and
I pointed back and I said, right back there. And
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two of the firefighters walked to where I pointed because
there was debris piles everywhere, cars and trees everything, and
there was a gas leak, and so they couldn't hear
things well. But Ben, the firefighter in Montecito, he said,
I think I hear screaming, and they thought it was
a house nearby that was still kind of standing of it,
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and he sent Andy over, and Andy, you know, with
the gasleek, was listening, listening and he heard it, so
it was just absolutely a miracle that I went where
I went, and.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So that was how they found your daughter, yes, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And then we searched for my son. He was one
of the missing. And that's why Texas is so so
hard for me to watch, because I just feel so
immensely for everyone. There was twenty three people died that night,
my husband and son, my seventeen year old son. But
there was two that were missing they couldn't find, and
one was my son, and one was a beautiful baby
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girl who was too lydia.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So that night, how did you know that? I mean,
I think so many of us have gone to sleep
in the rain, and certainly you never considered. I mean
you said you thought the houses up on the ridge
may be in trouble, but you never considered that your
house would be washed away. How did you know to
get up even and be prepared?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
There was heavy rain, and I was more of a
nervous nelly and so over protective. I even had a
hotel room reserved in town. So if it got really
bad and we felt unsafe because we evacuated every time
during the Thomas fire when they said to evacuate, so
I just said, hey, if we get uncomfortable, let's get out.
So we had our go bags. We had the cars
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staged across in a neighbor's driveway so that we could
put sandbags up near us. We had the trains checked,
you know, And when we got up, we're just like,
this is too heavy a rain. Like my husband looked
in the garage. He says, it's coming up with water
like we'd never seen anything like it. It was torrential.
It was torrential rain coming down, and it came on
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the heels of a wildfire that took all everything of
security off that mountain.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You said, your hand got caught those moments. I think
that a lot of people wonder what those moments are
like before disaster strikes and then as you are separated,
and what is going through your mind? Were you knocked out?
What happened after that?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was sheer terror. All of a sudden, there was.
It went from pitch black when I looked out the
window when we were getting ready to get out, to
an eerie yellow all of a sudden. What I didn't
know there was a big gas explosion in town and
it made the whole sky light up, like I would say,
like a nuclear bomb, and I just said, I go, Dave,
something really wrong going on, Something really wrong is going on,
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and so yeah, we just it was it was terror.
So my husband opened the front door, slammed it right
away because he was checking on how the house was
doing with rain. He I think saw that thirty foot
wave coming toward us, because he blasted past.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Me when he said back door, back door, back.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Door now, and he'd get out, get out, get out,
And I couldn't because my hand got stuck in the
door and the mud was pushing against it, so I
couldn't open it because I mean, all of a sudden,
the MUD's you know, at my chest. And then I
went under. You know, I did a lot of you know,
I did some prey, and I can tell you that
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in what I yelled. And then I went under and
I felt everything. And they interviewed a Texas survivor who
said it felt like she was in a wash machine.
And I know exactly what she felt like, but I
called it a trash compactor because as the house was
falling apart, I was hit by granite, bricks, broken glass, everything,
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and it was so much pain. I said, I'm like God,
if you want me to die, just show me the
white light, like, get me out of this pain. And
at that point I must have been knocked out. And
then all I remember is kind of coming to on
a debris pile. I was being rained on. It was cold,
it was January. I was in bare feet, you know.
I had put on my turtleneck and leggings from the
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day before, and they were my one hand could tell
they were all shredded. And I was pulling up big,
big pieces of wood. And when I got to the hospital,
it was like someone took a wire brush to the
front of my body and rubbed vigorously. Was I was
pretty beaten up.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's interesting to me that you said I called to
the Lord and said, if this is my time, I
can't take the pain, take me now. He didn't take you,
but it knocked you out. It was like, this is
all I can bear. And there was grace to get
you to the point where you could get to the hospital.
(10:06):
I think that's a powerful statement.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, it was. I mean I remember yelling. I said,
Jesus saved me. Jesus saved me. Jesus save me. That's
what came. And then when I was on the debris pile, alone, freezing.
I just what's interesting is I learned something. Is I
just said the Lord's Prayer about twenty or thirty times,
and it was calming for me. That's what I did.
I just said the Lord's prayer. And what they say
in different religions, each one of their prayers has a
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melodic stance to it that's actually very calming. So the Lord,
our Father, the Lord's Prayer in Christianity is that melodic
tempo that has something to do with your calming nervous system.
In other religions they have ones too that have that same,
you know, a cadence that is calming. And that's what
i's when everything was unfolding, That's where clearly where I went.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Has your daughter talked about what happened to her?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yes, she actually I wrote a book and we did
an audible and she asked to read her part of
being buried alive and how she survived it. And it's
pretty pretty pretty like she's the strongest human I know of.
How she kept herself sane for six hours, fully conscious.
I got knocked out, I was, I was actually fortunately
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the whole time she was fully conscious, buried alive in
a contorted position under twenty feet of mud, and if
she tried to push on anything, nothing would move. So
she thought that was her tomb. And so to hear
her talk about what she did to survive was she's
the strongest human. I know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Wow, And what kind of what was the recovery? Like
you were in the hospital. You have I assume more
injuries than just the skin burn on your chest. It's
got to be pretty severe. And at the same time,
half of your family is still missing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, So I got into the hospital. I had two surgeries.
The first night, I thought I had a broken hip.
I had big laceration, A big, big part of my
flesh was taken out and I kind of had packed
it back in, but I packed it with all the debris,
so they had to operate on that. My leg was
cut down the to the bone at the knee through
(12:20):
the quad muscle, so a couple surgeries. I was eggplant purple,
just eggplant purple, and that wirebrush was like all over
my body. So I I had learned to walk again,
you know, wheelchair walker. I walked like a ninety five
year old for a long time and have really, really
(12:42):
really worked for seven years to get my you know,
my my normal gate back, you know, and I have
you know, I can you know someone saw me today,
they wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Wow wow. And then and did your dog? What were
her injuries?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
She had I think cracked ribs and bruised or fractured pelvis.
But in her rescue, you know, in the video, it's
stunning because the firefighters get her out and they said,
can we carry you to the ambulance and she says, no,
I'll walk.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Wow wow, No, I'll walk.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And she was injured and she's like, I'm walking and
it was They couldn't believe it. They're like, this is
incredulous that she survived it. And then she's saying that she.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Was what fourteen?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You said she was fourteen years old?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, she's twenty wow two. Now, yeah, that is amazing.
My daughter will turn fourteen next month, my middle daughter,
And I just think about that and I think that's
where we are today. So many of us across the
country have heard these stories of the flooding and the
kids being washed away. And that's where you dealt with
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both things. Now, not only were you in it, but
you also lost a son, lost a husband. So walk
us through how do you. You help people today. Sadly,
your tragedy is not the last tragedy, and what we
know is that can't mystic will also not be the last,
because these things happen. Let's take a quick commercial break.
(14:20):
We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. I love
listening to you because you sit here and you talk
about how strong your daughter is, and I'm like, I
hear these stories really, And I packed my arm and
I kept going and I you know, and I'm calling
to the Lord and I get through the hospital. Now
(14:40):
I've gotten my gate back, and I'm like, in all
of this suffering the most immense loss a human can suffer.
So tell us how you talk people through this? And
how did you how do you stay? You're so positive
and you just have such a great outlook, which I
think that when you say that about your daughter, I'm like, well,
look who her mother is.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Thank you. You know what I'd say, you know, my
heart bleeds for everyone in Texas. Is I found for
me is that the community helped me heal. And I'm
a type A didn't ask for help. I was the
helper and I was filaid open and I needed help
and I accepted it, and so one is be open
(15:25):
and vulnerable to help because you're going to need it,
all the help, and it's for quite a long time, right,
and for the community to use whatever talent you have
to help. I have met so many amazing people that
just showed up who I did not know, Like when
we looked for we looked for my missing son and
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baby Lydia for three years. We looked for their remains,
and I had what's called a sacred search team. It
was about seven people. I knew six of them. I
did not know six of them before this tragedy. So
if I said to you, hey, it's twenty twenty five, right,
will you go out with me every two weeks until
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twenty twenty eight to look for these missing kids, not
many people's hands would go up. Guys came out. It
was a search handler and his professional search dog. It
was a general contractor with a big rig so she
could get down all the debris and the debris piles.
A woman who lost her house and would go spot
to see what's in there. You know. It was just
(16:30):
a Scout dad. My husband was a Scout leader and
his son was in the troop and he didn't want
me to find Jack by myself. He just he wanted
to honor my husband so much, and so they used
their talents to help. I went to a local CBS
early on and everyone recognized who I was. It was
all over the news. And a woman stopped and she says,
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you're Kim right, and I said, yeah. She goes, here's
my card. My name's Kimmy my husband dined in nine
to eleven. And I will do anything for you if
you just need me to go get your dry cleaning,
go get your dry cleaning. And that was the magic.
Everyone has something they can offer. So I would encourage
those in Texas not directly impacted find a way to help,
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find a way to help. And I think through that
what I've heard is those people who helped me and
the other survivors of the mud slide found that that
was a period of great meaning and growth for them
by helping, and for those who like me, were impacted
and not used to taking Help's be open and vulnerable
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to help. And I was open to everything from widows groups,
talk therapy, MDR trauma therapy, thematic healing. Because what Texas
has endured and what I endured was called sudden traumatic death.
That's different from anticipatory death. My dad just died at
eighty six. He had dementia. We knew it was coming.
(17:57):
He lived eighty six great years. Right, he did it right.
I have with SUD and traumatic. You have grief and
you have trauma. Oh, work on both. And I've worked
diligently for seven years. And I told my daughter, I said, honey,
we've never been through anything like this. We don't know
what we don't know. We need to invest to get
the help we need so that we're going to be
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okay again. It really affects your nervous system, you know.
I want to be fit for human consumption again. I
have a lot of living to do. I'm relatively young,
you know. I want to embrace life and know that.
And they won't believe me when I say this, tutor,
and they probably don't want to hear it now. But
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what I've found after seven years reflecting, I do want
my husband and son back every day, my dog and
my house. I'd love that. But there have been silver linings.
I've seen the best of humanity. I have seen the
best of humanity.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That is an amazing testimony that I mean incredible because
I think that it's a it's the biggest fear of
every parent is like you said, thet the traumatic sudden death,
and that is a loss. You found him. It was
three hour or three years later that you found his body.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The university team, they had an anthropology team, bio forensic, anthropologist,
and archaeologist. The students were out with the professor, and
they didn't find all of them by any stretch of
the imagination, but they found some and it was enough
for me to be able to bury him with some dignity.
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And I just didn't want him in a pile with
a you know, bent up chain leak fence and and
some some stuff from someone's garage. I didn't I didn't
feel here or baby was.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That close to your house.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It was relatively yeah. I don't want to say exactly
because I don't want little shrines to it, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And your husband was found right away.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He was found, they told me. I think on day
two they did a trial run. The first day after
my surgery. They came in and say, who do you
want to be here when we find stuff out? And
you know, the priest came and none came. All that
stuff and they told me that Chester, my ninety pound
Irish setter, was found six foot up a tree, crushed
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and didn't survive. And so that was kind of the
chest run. And then the next morning someone from the
Sheriff's office came in and said, we found Dave. And
I said, alive and they said no, And I said,
are you sure? I go, We're sure. They had done
all the testing and everything to make sure it was him,
and he was found on the shoreline at the beach.
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And so he was found early at the time I
was going to the hospital, I think he was. He
was being found, people saw him and luckily he was
the top of the debree piles, so they saw him.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It is a miracle to think that coming out of
that house and having such a sudden mud slide. I mean,
you think about the earth just going right through your house,
that you have two survivors of that story.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It was America a miraculous Yes, I mean, it was
absolutely miracle.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You you look like you didn't have any like major
scars on you. That people will know you when they
see you, is what I'm saying. And here you had
what you said was like having your body just rubbed
with sandpaper, But you look like you've come out of it.
And I'm sure your daughter knew who you were right away.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah. They Actually we were in different hospitals, but we
face timed and a woman who was in helping me
put a scarf around me my head and tried to
like put on some makeupy stuff just so it didn't
scare her, because I was I was, you know, I
look like, you know, black eyes. You know, I was
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purple all over.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
But no, I mean that you have a cut on
your arm, but in your leg. But it's amazing that
your face. I mean, I know that sounds.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I could have lost all my teeth, I could have
lost my eyes because think about it, there were sixty
two homes that were destroyed that night, and all their
windows were being broken, and I was swimming with shards
of glass, broken windows, of electrical wires, all the caustic
stuff in people's garage.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And I know I didn't lose a tooth, I didn't
lose an eye.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And it is your daughter in that same situation that
is I mean, you think about that and you really
feel like that prayer surrounded you to be protected in
a way.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Absolutely, I knew absolutely absolutely was.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I was.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I was helped to live. There was no reason. There
was no reason when you saw the car sized boulders,
the hundred year old down trees and everything I was with,
there's no reason that I should have that. I makes
sense that I survived and that I ended up on
the top of the repile. I wasn't in the middle
of it, so I couldn't breathe. Lauren, she had a
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pocket of air. Guess what, in front of her nose,
not her belly button, not her me. It was exactly
where she needed it. So it was by the grace
of God that we survived. And it's just she has
one scar, and I asked her one more prominent scar.
I'm not gonna see where it is, but I go,
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you know, is that concerned she because that's my superhero scar,
because like that's my my, my bad woman's scar. Like
she's proud. I'm good for you.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's right, that's right. She's a miracle. She might as
well have something to show it. So you wrote the memoir.
I love the fact that you said you did an
audiobook and she gets to tell her own story, and
I think that's I think that's powerful because especially for
anybody who is going through this, but also I think
for all of us who have just lived what we've
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learned from the news. You know, we saw the fires
in California a few years ago, we saw the fire
in in Hawaii. We saw the floods in North Carolina
and the floods in Texas, and I think that human
nature is to say, I just need to know that
survival story. And you've been able to come out from
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a space of really living this trauma and going through
that yourself. And I think you're the miracle story that
everybody goes, wow, how is it possible? And two two
people and one family get to be the miracle story.
So it's called where the Yellow Flowers Bloom? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yes? You know we're yellow flowers bloom.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Tell us tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yes, it was COVID and everyone was staying inside, and
so I started to think it was you know, a
few years out, I'm like, I'm going to start writing
some of the downs so that I remember it all
for my future if I get grandchildren, that they know
the story of what happened. And as I start started
to write it, I realized I was going from desperate
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grief to a peaceful acceptance. And I said, you know,
I think this might help someone. And so and then
my sacred search team are like, you need to write
some of the stuff down. You saw that was just
some incredible things that happened, and so I did. I
never thought I'd ever be an author. I mean I
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never finished a book, like in elementary school, because I
was so active and I was doing cartwheels. I wasn't reading,
you know, any book at the library. And so I
wrote a book and it's won seven awards for inspirational memoir.
And I don't say that in any kind of ego way,
but why I'm happy is it's people are telling me,
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those who've lost children or have suddenly found their life
pivot in a just a traumatic way, they've found healing
in it. And it's a fast read. I mean people
read it in like three days. Like it's just like
I mad in short chapters, you know, to make it
so it's easy. But yeah, if it if it can
help people, that puts purpose to what happened to me.
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Like what fran Victor Frankel says, right, he has the
book The Meaning of Life, and he says if something
really bad happens to you, how do you put meaning
to it? So if this puts meaning to what happened
to Lauren and I and my family, and it helps
other people, I'm one hundred percent for it. I'm a
one hundred percent for it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. And I think for parents, especially
parents of faith, and we know that the Camp Mystic
kids were at a Christian camp, and that knowledge, just
those moments that you described to me of saying, if
you're going to take me, take me now, I can't
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handle all this pain. I can't handle this, and that
God listens, you know. And I think there is a
peace in knowing that those girls knew how to speak
directly to their creator, to God and call to him
when they needed help. And that I think is because
I've thought about this, you know, I have four girls,
and I think about what would it be like in
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a situation like this, And there is so much peace
in knowing that they know the Lord. But to hear
your story on top of it is just so it
brings so much peace to the anxiety of parenting and
of tragedy.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, and you know, it's interesting. And what I know,
I used to be a Sunday school teacher, you know,
for a while at the you know, I have a nunsense, Hey,
would you teach the junior high class? And I'm like,
I don't know if I know all this stuff well enough.
And she's like, well, i'll give you, you know, the book
or all this stuff. And I just really love that
time with the junior high age kids. And and I
would tell them, you know, what's the thing said most
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often in the Bible more than any other time, And
I said, it's fear not. You're not. You're not. And
and so, you know, some of those learnings kind of
stuck with me. And I think they're going to help
those those you know, for the parents of those those
kids that were washed away. You know, they're they're in
pure joy right now. We have it harder, we're not.
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We don't get to see them, but they're in pure joy.
They're in pure joy.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I know, yeah, yeah, and that's beautiful. And I
think that's I mean, it's interesting because even when you said, well,
my dad passed away, but we were prepared, and it's
it's still that same situation. You know that there are
no tears of pain or suffering. You know that they
are in a place of pure joy, and that we
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have we will see them again. But but I think
in the meantime, while we're here, Where Yellow Flowers Bloom,
is such a great opportunity to sit and kind of
absorb that and realize that there is pain, but there's
a way through it on this earth and where we
are today, and that in this life we can still
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find joy after such pain like that. And I'm just
so grateful that you wrote it. Where can people get
it on Amazon?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And yeah, it's Where Yellow Flowers Bloom on Amazon, and
it's also an audible. But it's interesting about the title, right,
which I think you know. I want to say to
the all everyone who's suffered so much in Texas, is
the all the debris in Monacito, which was thirty square miles,
was full of arsenic and really bad bacteria, and the
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university team said nothing really should grow in it at all.
And where we ended up finding some of my late
son was in a pile that was graced by yellow flowers.
And that's why I said, Where yellow Flowers Bloom, it's
where you can find beauty where otherwise you you wouldn't
expect it. And I will say to the you know,
I'm so deeply sorry to all the people in Texas,
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and I just hope it gets lighter for them, and
I really hope they lean into getting as much support
as they can get, and I really hope the community
does like what Santa Barbara did for me and the
others is the community people showed up. It's like mister
Rogers says, look for the helpers. They show up. There's
angels that show up. So be an angel to someone
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if you weren't directly impacted, and if you were impacted,
you've received the love and support. It's healing, it's really healing.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, thank you you are one of those angels. And
I'm so glad you came on today. Kim Canton, thank
you so much for being here, Thank you for having
me absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on
this podcast. For this episode. In others, you can go
to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com or the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and if
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rumble at. Tutor did make sure you join us next
time and have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today we're gonna We're
going to go through a survivor story. We've all been
watching as the families have been mourning the losses of
the Texas flooding, the campground that I think everybody, as
a parent has watched these parents learn that their children
didn't survive the flooding. And I think that many of us,
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if we know someone who is involved, we're trying to
figure out how to support them and if we don't,
I think that so many. I mean, I know from
my perspective, I've watched this as a parent, and I've thought,
I can't I can't imagine what it's like afterward. What
the question the questions that you have, what their last
moments were like, and just what you how do you sleep?
(00:45):
How do you survive? How do you move on? And
we're so blessed to be grace today with Kim Canton.
She actually survived a very similar situation, a deadly twenty
eighteen mud slide in Montecito was a now disaster. This
was twenty three people that lost their lives and Kim,
your husband and your son were among those people. And
(01:08):
thank you so much for coming today to share your story.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you for having me. Absolutely so yeah, I'll tell
you a little bit of what happened. It was eerily similar,
I think, because it was in the dark, in the
middle of the night, right that part of the mountain
came down, and there had been a forest one of
the largest wildfires in California history the month prior, and
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it took all the foliage out of the mountains. And
Santa Barbara's kind of where the mountain meets the sea.
There's mountain range, there's about four miles and then there's
Pacific Ocean. And so there was carcis boulders sitting precariously
on the hillside, and I looked at those houses, thinking, oh,
I feel so bad for those people. Our house was
down in the village, so we weren't very concerned where
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I was concerned about the houses up on the hillside
with the boulders. And what happened sadly and was about
thirty days later. There was torrential rain and about half
an inch fell in fifteen minutes. And on top of that,
there were seven water mains in the mountain that all
gave way, so it was like Niagara Falls on top
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of torrential rain. And when you have a forest fire,
you know, what it leaves is kind of like a
plastic soot, I would say. And so it just slid down.
And so in the dark at about three in the morning,
the mountain came down and a neighbor across the lane
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from us and near the creek, he looked over at
our house and car sized boulders jammed up unto the
underpass and you'd hear the zing, zing zing. We didn't
know what was happening in the house. We were all
up trying to get dressed to get out. We knew
the heavy rain, and the neighbor said he saw a
thirty foot wave plume up around the curve of the creek,
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but it couldn't go anywhere because it jammed up boulders,
and it crashed down on our house with my family
in it. And my husband was on you know, he
had he had seen it. He'd open the front door
and he says, back door now, and he ran to
the backyard and there was a glass glass door there
and he was on the other side of the door saying, Kim,
(03:21):
get out, get out, get out. But my hand got
stuck in the door. And by the time they'll wear
and beware, alarm went off on my phone. I was
chest deep in mud and I had watched my Irish
setter dog get rolled over with mud, and you know,
as it filled up in the house. My son and
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my daughter were in different parts in the house. My
daughter had run to get her rain boots when my
husband said, get dressed, let's get out. My son probably
went to his room to get his computer. And my
fourteen year old daughter was washed away but a football
field and buried alive under twenty feet of mud for
six hours with just a tiny pocket of air the
size of a volleyball with a teeny tiny hole. She'd
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push on her entument and it didn't budge, and she
screamed and screamed and screamed. I was washed away two
football fields, found in a debris pile in an intersection,
wrapped in electrical wires, severely injured. And you know when
when I got rescued, I was in the hospital at
(04:26):
about eight thirty in the morning, So I was on
that debris pile for quite a long time. And at
about ten thirty that I heard the door open and
they said, you have a daughter named Lauren, I said, yes,
I do, and they said they just rescued her, and
her rescue was shown around the world because it was
like phoenix rising that she was able to survive what
she endured and there's part of a roof over her.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
How did they know where she was? They heard her screaming?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, it was actually I think angels were with us
that day, because when they came to find me on
the in the intersection debris pile, they said, where was
your home? Which was scary for me to hear the
was and I thought, I must be in my backyard somewhere, right,
And I just took my one hand that worked, and
I pointed back and I said, right back there. And
(05:12):
two of the firefighters walked to where I pointed because
there was debris piles everywhere, cars and trees everything, and
there was a gas leak, and so they couldn't hear
things well. But Ben, the firefighter in Montecito, he said,
I think I hear screaming, and they thought it was
a house nearby that was still kind of standing of it,
(05:33):
and he sent Andy over, and Andy, you know, with
the gasleek, was listening, listening and he heard it, so
it was just absolutely a miracle that I went where
I went, and.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So that was how they found your daughter, yes, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And then we searched for my son. He was one
of the missing. And that's why Texas is so so
hard for me to watch, because I just feel so
immensely for everyone. There was twenty three people died that night,
my husband and son, my seventeen year old son. But
there was two that were missing they couldn't find, and
one was my son, and one was a beautiful baby
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girl who was too lydia.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So that night, how did you know that? I mean,
I think so many of us have gone to sleep
in the rain, and certainly you never considered. I mean
you said you thought the houses up on the ridge
may be in trouble, but you never considered that your
house would be washed away. How did you know to
get up even and be prepared?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
There was heavy rain, and I was more of a
nervous nelly and so over protective. I even had a
hotel room reserved in town. So if it got really
bad and we felt unsafe because we evacuated every time
during the Thomas fire when they said to evacuate, so
I just said, hey, if we get uncomfortable, let's get out.
So we had our go bags. We had the cars
(06:56):
staged across in a neighbor's driveway so that we could
put sandbags up near us. We had the trains checked,
you know, And when we got up, we're just like,
this is too heavy a rain. Like my husband looked
in the garage. He says, it's coming up with water
like we'd never seen anything like it. It was torrential.
It was torrential rain coming down, and it came on
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the heels of a wildfire that took all everything of
security off that mountain.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You said, your hand got caught those moments. I think
that a lot of people wonder what those moments are
like before disaster strikes and then as you are separated,
and what is going through your mind? Were you knocked out?
What happened after that?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was sheer terror. All of a sudden, there was.
It went from pitch black when I looked out the
window when we were getting ready to get out, to
an eerie yellow all of a sudden. What I didn't
know there was a big gas explosion in town and
it made the whole sky light up, like I would say,
like a nuclear bomb, and I just said, I go, Dave,
something really wrong going on, Something really wrong is going on,
(08:02):
and so yeah, we just it was it was terror.
So my husband opened the front door, slammed it right
away because he was checking on how the house was
doing with rain. He I think saw that thirty foot
wave coming toward us, because he blasted past.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Me when he said back door, back door, back.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Door now, and he'd get out, get out, get out,
And I couldn't because my hand got stuck in the
door and the mud was pushing against it, so I
couldn't open it because I mean, all of a sudden,
the MUD's you know, at my chest. And then I
went under. You know, I did a lot of you know,
I did some prey, and I can tell you that
(08:43):
in what I yelled. And then I went under and
I felt everything. And they interviewed a Texas survivor who
said it felt like she was in a wash machine.
And I know exactly what she felt like, but I
called it a trash compactor because as the house was
falling apart, I was hit by granite, bricks, broken glass, everything,
(09:05):
and it was so much pain. I said, I'm like God,
if you want me to die, just show me the
white light, like, get me out of this pain. And
at that point I must have been knocked out. And
then all I remember is kind of coming to on
a debris pile. I was being rained on. It was cold,
it was January. I was in bare feet, you know.
I had put on my turtleneck and leggings from the
(09:28):
day before, and they were my one hand could tell
they were all shredded. And I was pulling up big,
big pieces of wood. And when I got to the hospital,
it was like someone took a wire brush to the
front of my body and rubbed vigorously. Was I was
pretty beaten up.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's interesting to me that you said I called to
the Lord and said, if this is my time, I
can't take the pain, take me now. He didn't take you,
but it knocked you out. It was like, this is
all I can bear. And there was grace to get
you to the point where you could get to the hospital.
(10:06):
I think that's a powerful statement.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, it was. I mean I remember yelling. I said,
Jesus saved me. Jesus saved me. Jesus save me. That's
what came. And then when I was on the debris pile, alone, freezing.
I just what's interesting is I learned something. Is I
just said the Lord's Prayer about twenty or thirty times,
and it was calming for me. That's what I did.
I just said the Lord's prayer. And what they say
in different religions, each one of their prayers has a
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melodic stance to it that's actually very calming. So the Lord,
our Father, the Lord's Prayer in Christianity is that melodic
tempo that has something to do with your calming nervous system.
In other religions they have ones too that have that same,
you know, a cadence that is calming. And that's what
i's when everything was unfolding, That's where clearly where I went.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Has your daughter talked about what happened to her?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yes, she actually I wrote a book and we did
an audible and she asked to read her part of
being buried alive and how she survived it. And it's
pretty pretty pretty like she's the strongest human I know of.
How she kept herself sane for six hours, fully conscious.
I got knocked out, I was, I was actually fortunately
(11:22):
the whole time she was fully conscious, buried alive in
a contorted position under twenty feet of mud, and if
she tried to push on anything, nothing would move. So
she thought that was her tomb. And so to hear
her talk about what she did to survive was she's
the strongest human. I know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Wow, And what kind of what was the recovery? Like
you were in the hospital. You have I assume more
injuries than just the skin burn on your chest. It's
got to be pretty severe. And at the same time,
half of your family is still missing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, So I got into the hospital. I had two surgeries.
The first night, I thought I had a broken hip.
I had big laceration, A big, big part of my
flesh was taken out and I kind of had packed
it back in, but I packed it with all the debris,
so they had to operate on that. My leg was
cut down the to the bone at the knee through
(12:20):
the quad muscle, so a couple surgeries. I was eggplant purple,
just eggplant purple, and that wirebrush was like all over
my body. So I I had learned to walk again,
you know, wheelchair walker. I walked like a ninety five
year old for a long time and have really, really
(12:42):
really worked for seven years to get my you know,
my my normal gate back, you know, and I have
you know, I can you know someone saw me today,
they wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Wow wow. And then and did your dog? What were
her injuries?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
She had I think cracked ribs and bruised or fractured pelvis.
But in her rescue, you know, in the video, it's
stunning because the firefighters get her out and they said,
can we carry you to the ambulance and she says, no,
I'll walk.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Wow wow, No, I'll walk.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And she was injured and she's like, I'm walking and
it was They couldn't believe it. They're like, this is
incredulous that she survived it. And then she's saying that she.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Was what fourteen?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You said she was fourteen years old?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, she's twenty wow two. Now, yeah, that is amazing.
My daughter will turn fourteen next month, my middle daughter,
And I just think about that and I think that's
where we are today. So many of us across the
country have heard these stories of the flooding and the
kids being washed away. And that's where you dealt with
(13:59):
both things. Now, not only were you in it, but
you also lost a son, lost a husband. So walk
us through how do you. You help people today. Sadly,
your tragedy is not the last tragedy, and what we
know is that can't mystic will also not be the last,
because these things happen. Let's take a quick commercial break.
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We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. I love
listening to you because you sit here and you talk
about how strong your daughter is, and I'm like, I
hear these stories really, And I packed my arm and
I kept going and I you know, and I'm calling
to the Lord and I get through the hospital. Now
(14:40):
I've gotten my gate back, and I'm like, in all
of this suffering the most immense loss a human can suffer.
So tell us how you talk people through this? And
how did you how do you stay? You're so positive
and you just have such a great outlook, which I
think that when you say that about your daughter, I'm like, well,
look who her mother is.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Thank you. You know what I'd say, you know, my
heart bleeds for everyone in Texas. Is I found for
me is that the community helped me heal. And I'm
a type A didn't ask for help. I was the
helper and I was filaid open and I needed help
and I accepted it, and so one is be open
(15:25):
and vulnerable to help because you're going to need it,
all the help, and it's for quite a long time, right,
and for the community to use whatever talent you have
to help. I have met so many amazing people that
just showed up who I did not know, Like when
we looked for we looked for my missing son and
(15:46):
baby Lydia for three years. We looked for their remains,
and I had what's called a sacred search team. It
was about seven people. I knew six of them. I
did not know six of them before this tragedy. So
if I said to you, hey, it's twenty twenty five, right,
will you go out with me every two weeks until
(16:06):
twenty twenty eight to look for these missing kids, not
many people's hands would go up. Guys came out. It
was a search handler and his professional search dog. It
was a general contractor with a big rig so she
could get down all the debris and the debris piles.
A woman who lost her house and would go spot
to see what's in there. You know. It was just
(16:30):
a Scout dad. My husband was a Scout leader and
his son was in the troop and he didn't want
me to find Jack by myself. He just he wanted
to honor my husband so much, and so they used
their talents to help. I went to a local CBS
early on and everyone recognized who I was. It was
all over the news. And a woman stopped and she says,
(16:52):
you're Kim right, and I said, yeah. She goes, here's
my card. My name's Kimmy my husband dined in nine
to eleven. And I will do anything for you if
you just need me to go get your dry cleaning,
go get your dry cleaning. And that was the magic.
Everyone has something they can offer. So I would encourage
those in Texas not directly impacted find a way to help,
(17:14):
find a way to help. And I think through that
what I've heard is those people who helped me and
the other survivors of the mud slide found that that
was a period of great meaning and growth for them
by helping, and for those who like me, were impacted
and not used to taking Help's be open and vulnerable
(17:34):
to help. And I was open to everything from widows groups,
talk therapy, MDR trauma therapy, thematic healing. Because what Texas
has endured and what I endured was called sudden traumatic death.
That's different from anticipatory death. My dad just died at
eighty six. He had dementia. We knew it was coming.
(17:57):
He lived eighty six great years. Right, he did it right.
I have with SUD and traumatic. You have grief and
you have trauma. Oh, work on both. And I've worked
diligently for seven years. And I told my daughter, I said, honey,
we've never been through anything like this. We don't know
what we don't know. We need to invest to get
the help we need so that we're going to be
(18:19):
okay again. It really affects your nervous system, you know.
I want to be fit for human consumption again. I
have a lot of living to do. I'm relatively young,
you know. I want to embrace life and know that.
And they won't believe me when I say this, tutor,
and they probably don't want to hear it now. But
(18:39):
what I've found after seven years reflecting, I do want
my husband and son back every day, my dog and
my house. I'd love that. But there have been silver linings.
I've seen the best of humanity. I have seen the
best of humanity.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That is an amazing testimony that I mean incredible because
I think that it's a it's the biggest fear of
every parent is like you said, thet the traumatic sudden death,
and that is a loss. You found him. It was
three hour or three years later that you found his body.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The university team, they had an anthropology team, bio forensic, anthropologist,
and archaeologist. The students were out with the professor, and
they didn't find all of them by any stretch of
the imagination, but they found some and it was enough
for me to be able to bury him with some dignity.
(19:37):
And I just didn't want him in a pile with
a you know, bent up chain leak fence and and
some some stuff from someone's garage. I didn't I didn't
feel here or baby was.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That close to your house.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It was relatively yeah. I don't want to say exactly
because I don't want little shrines to it, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And your husband was found right away.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
He was found, they told me. I think on day
two they did a trial run. The first day after
my surgery. They came in and say, who do you
want to be here when we find stuff out? And
you know, the priest came and none came. All that
stuff and they told me that Chester, my ninety pound
Irish setter, was found six foot up a tree, crushed
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and didn't survive. And so that was kind of the
chest run. And then the next morning someone from the
Sheriff's office came in and said, we found Dave. And
I said, alive and they said no, And I said,
are you sure? I go, We're sure. They had done
all the testing and everything to make sure it was him,
and he was found on the shoreline at the beach.
(20:45):
And so he was found early at the time I
was going to the hospital, I think he was. He
was being found, people saw him and luckily he was
the top of the debree piles, so they saw him.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It is a miracle to think that coming out of
that house and having such a sudden mud slide. I mean,
you think about the earth just going right through your house,
that you have two survivors of that story.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It was America a miraculous Yes, I mean, it was
absolutely miracle.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You you look like you didn't have any like major
scars on you. That people will know you when they
see you, is what I'm saying. And here you had
what you said was like having your body just rubbed
with sandpaper, But you look like you've come out of it.
And I'm sure your daughter knew who you were right away.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah. They Actually we were in different hospitals, but we
face timed and a woman who was in helping me
put a scarf around me my head and tried to
like put on some makeupy stuff just so it didn't
scare her, because I was I was, you know, I
look like, you know, black eyes. You know, I was
(22:00):
purple all over.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
But no, I mean that you have a cut on
your arm, but in your leg. But it's amazing that
your face. I mean, I know that sounds.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I could have lost all my teeth, I could have
lost my eyes because think about it, there were sixty
two homes that were destroyed that night, and all their
windows were being broken, and I was swimming with shards
of glass, broken windows, of electrical wires, all the caustic
stuff in people's garage.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And I know I didn't lose a tooth, I didn't
lose an eye.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And it is your daughter in that same situation that
is I mean, you think about that and you really
feel like that prayer surrounded you to be protected in
a way.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Absolutely, I knew absolutely absolutely was.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I was.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I was helped to live. There was no reason. There
was no reason when you saw the car sized boulders,
the hundred year old down trees and everything I was with,
there's no reason that I should have that. I makes
sense that I survived and that I ended up on
the top of the repile. I wasn't in the middle
of it, so I couldn't breathe. Lauren, she had a
(23:20):
pocket of air. Guess what, in front of her nose,
not her belly button, not her me. It was exactly
where she needed it. So it was by the grace
of God that we survived. And it's just she has
one scar, and I asked her one more prominent scar.
I'm not gonna see where it is, but I go,
(23:41):
you know, is that concerned she because that's my superhero scar,
because like that's my my, my bad woman's scar. Like
she's proud. I'm good for you.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's right, that's right. She's a miracle. She might as
well have something to show it. So you wrote the memoir.
I love the fact that you said you did an
audiobook and she gets to tell her own story, and
I think that's I think that's powerful because especially for
anybody who is going through this, but also I think
for all of us who have just lived what we've
(24:14):
learned from the news. You know, we saw the fires
in California a few years ago, we saw the fire
in in Hawaii. We saw the floods in North Carolina
and the floods in Texas, and I think that human
nature is to say, I just need to know that
survival story. And you've been able to come out from
(24:37):
a space of really living this trauma and going through
that yourself. And I think you're the miracle story that
everybody goes, wow, how is it possible? And two two
people and one family get to be the miracle story.
So it's called where the Yellow Flowers Bloom? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yes? You know we're yellow flowers bloom.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Tell us tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yes, it was COVID and everyone was staying inside, and
so I started to think it was you know, a
few years out, I'm like, I'm going to start writing
some of the downs so that I remember it all
for my future if I get grandchildren, that they know
the story of what happened. And as I start started
to write it, I realized I was going from desperate
(25:20):
grief to a peaceful acceptance. And I said, you know,
I think this might help someone. And so and then
my sacred search team are like, you need to write
some of the stuff down. You saw that was just
some incredible things that happened, and so I did. I
never thought I'd ever be an author. I mean I
(25:42):
never finished a book, like in elementary school, because I
was so active and I was doing cartwheels. I wasn't reading,
you know, any book at the library. And so I
wrote a book and it's won seven awards for inspirational memoir.
And I don't say that in any kind of ego way,
but why I'm happy is it's people are telling me,
(26:03):
those who've lost children or have suddenly found their life
pivot in a just a traumatic way, they've found healing
in it. And it's a fast read. I mean people
read it in like three days. Like it's just like
I mad in short chapters, you know, to make it
so it's easy. But yeah, if it if it can
help people, that puts purpose to what happened to me.
(26:27):
Like what fran Victor Frankel says, right, he has the
book The Meaning of Life, and he says if something
really bad happens to you, how do you put meaning
to it? So if this puts meaning to what happened
to Lauren and I and my family, and it helps
other people, I'm one hundred percent for it. I'm a
one hundred percent for it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast. And I think for parents, especially
parents of faith, and we know that the Camp Mystic
kids were at a Christian camp, and that knowledge, just
those moments that you described to me of saying, if
you're going to take me, take me now, I can't
(27:06):
handle all this pain. I can't handle this, and that
God listens, you know. And I think there is a
peace in knowing that those girls knew how to speak
directly to their creator, to God and call to him
when they needed help. And that I think is because
I've thought about this, you know, I have four girls,
and I think about what would it be like in
(27:27):
a situation like this, And there is so much peace
in knowing that they know the Lord. But to hear
your story on top of it is just so it
brings so much peace to the anxiety of parenting and
of tragedy.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, and you know, it's interesting. And what I know,
I used to be a Sunday school teacher, you know,
for a while at the you know, I have a nunsense, Hey,
would you teach the junior high class? And I'm like,
I don't know if I know all this stuff well enough.
And she's like, well, i'll give you, you know, the book
or all this stuff. And I just really love that
time with the junior high age kids. And and I
would tell them, you know, what's the thing said most
(28:07):
often in the Bible more than any other time, And
I said, it's fear not. You're not. You're not. And
and so, you know, some of those learnings kind of
stuck with me. And I think they're going to help
those those you know, for the parents of those those
kids that were washed away. You know, they're they're in
pure joy right now. We have it harder, we're not.
(28:28):
We don't get to see them, but they're in pure joy.
They're in pure joy.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I know, yeah, yeah, and that's beautiful. And I
think that's I mean, it's interesting because even when you said, well,
my dad passed away, but we were prepared, and it's
it's still that same situation. You know that there are
no tears of pain or suffering. You know that they
are in a place of pure joy, and that we
(28:53):
have we will see them again. But but I think
in the meantime, while we're here, Where Yellow Flowers Bloom,
is such a great opportunity to sit and kind of
absorb that and realize that there is pain, but there's
a way through it on this earth and where we
are today, and that in this life we can still
(29:16):
find joy after such pain like that. And I'm just
so grateful that you wrote it. Where can people get
it on Amazon?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And yeah, it's Where Yellow Flowers Bloom on Amazon, and
it's also an audible. But it's interesting about the title, right,
which I think you know. I want to say to
the all everyone who's suffered so much in Texas, is
the all the debris in Monacito, which was thirty square miles,
was full of arsenic and really bad bacteria, and the
(29:43):
university team said nothing really should grow in it at all.
And where we ended up finding some of my late
son was in a pile that was graced by yellow flowers.
And that's why I said, Where yellow Flowers Bloom, it's
where you can find beauty where otherwise you you wouldn't
expect it. And I will say to the you know,
I'm so deeply sorry to all the people in Texas,
(30:07):
and I just hope it gets lighter for them, and
I really hope they lean into getting as much support
as they can get, and I really hope the community
does like what Santa Barbara did for me and the
others is the community people showed up. It's like mister
Rogers says, look for the helpers. They show up. There's
angels that show up. So be an angel to someone
(30:29):
if you weren't directly impacted, and if you were impacted,
you've received the love and support. It's healing, it's really healing.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, thank you you are one of those angels. And
I'm so glad you came on today. Kim Canton, thank
you so much for being here, Thank you for having
me absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on
this podcast. For this episode. In others, you can go
to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com or the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and if
you want to watch it, the whole video is on
(30:58):
rumble at. Tutor did make sure you join us next
time and have a blessed day.
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