In this episode of The Tudor Dixon Podcast, rock legend and outspoken conservationist Ted Nugent joins Tudor to expose what he calls the “runaway immorality and corruption” of Michigan’s Department of Natural Resources. Nugent argues that government overreach and misguided environmental policies are destroying the state’s proud hunting heritage and hurting conservation efforts.
From the fight to save a blind baby deer to the state’s refusal to open hunting seasons for Sandhill cranes, bears, and wolves, Nugent and Tudor take aim at bureaucrats, bad science, and anti-hunting activism that’s putting wildlife — and freedom — at risk.
They also discuss how Michigan could boost its economy through responsible game management and tourism, the dangers of government “weaponization,” and why hunters must show up at the ballot box to take back control of their state.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, all right, welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
As you can see, we have Ted Nugent here with us.
He serves as the national spokesperson for Hunter Nation, and
I want to talk to him about Michigan today because
if you didn't know, we just saved a baby, a
blind baby deer, because that's how corrupt our government is.
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We have to save an animal from getting killed by
the government.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know, Tutor, I'm just a guitar player, but I've
never missed a hunting season. I was in diapers in
nineteen forty nine at the Nugent Deer Camp. It is
a soul cleansing, mystical, miraculous, powerful healing, participation with nature
as a conservation, as a resource steward, as a person
who walks the sacred wild ground. And I am heartbroke
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along with everybody that I run into. When I go
to the gas station, I go to the hardware store,
I go to the feed mill, I go to the
sushi bar, I go to Whole Foods where you wouldn't
think it would be Nugent territory. It's true logic, common sense,
goodwill and decency, territory and shamane and I are approached
everywhere we go. We feel honored and humbled that people
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connect with us when we condemn the atrocities, not just
disagreeable difference of opinion. We're talking about runaway immorality and
cruelty by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources. If it
wasn't for Kyle Green of Greenway Outdoors, they would have
gassed thousands of geese. Yes, instead of selling the licenses
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and letting we the people who own the wild resources,
to utilize them with a sense of reverence. So thank
you for bringing this to light. Because the dn R,
the Natural Resource Commission, pretty much everybody in Lansing with
a D after their name, are completely out of control
and offensive to the good conservation families of this great
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state of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I have to say, I'm almost worried that some of
the people with an R understand what it means to
just get government out of there. There's still that there's
like this mindset in the state of Michigan. Well, we
have to get in there and control. And I told
people on Sunday night, when I was up in northern Michigan,
I said, the DNR is not I had one guy
who said, you know, I used to be a part
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of the DNR. I said, the DNR today is not
the DNR that was twenty five years ago. It is
a different DNR. They are in there to control and
shut down and to take the weapons away from our hunters.
We have got to stop this. But I mean, it
has gone so far, and I think that we have
an opportunity to bring attention to this because of this
little deer, which I think is interesting. God uses animals
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in all different ways. You remember the story of Peanut
in New York. Well, we've got our own peanut, the
squirrel that was killed by Kathy Hokeel Will we have
our own peanut here in Michigan a blind deer that
a sanctuary took and said, okay, we're going to rehab
this deer and keep it for educational purposes. They have
a deer and a coyote. The governor and the DNR
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decided that they were going to go in and kill them.
The deer has been saved because of the uproar. But
I also think it calls attention to the fact that
you have this out of control government.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well stop and think I could keep you here for
one hundred days a thousand days with examples of sheer.
As I testified in Lamsing, it's not just disagreeable, it's
insane that you think you can vote the number one
game bird on the planet that's not a guitar players assumption.
The mourning dove is the most hunted species on Earth.
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More family hours of recreation, more revenues generated, more conservation,
more delicious, natural, organic, healthy food from mourning doves. But
they said, well, we voted they're a songbird. Well you
could you vote the pheasant is a songbird. I suppose
if you went to the hashbash in ann Arbor you
could vote the pheasant is a songbird if you're that
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brain dead. The sand hill crane is a federal migratory game.
It's known universally by people who know wildlife. Sand hill
crane ribi in the sky. They're so overpopulated.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So I mean, if you are driving, no matter where
you are in this state, you look at a field,
you will see it filled with sand hill cranes.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And they're depleting tens of millions of dollars worth of agriculture.
And not only are the d n R in the
NRC so immoral as to not open the season on
a wildlife resource that is beyond the carrying capacity, that
is in the liability column where the taxpayers have to
compensate the ad community. Not only will they not open
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the season, but they'll give you a piece of paper
to shoot a ribi in the sky. And by law,
by immral law, you're.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Not allowed to consume this precious ribbi in just shoot it. Terrible,
It's terrible. I don't think people understand. They just make
you can shoot it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You can, then you have to just let it its
dead body go. You can't do anything with it. It
is crazy. But there's also I mean, it's not just
sandhill cranes. In the state of Michigan. We have a
massive population of deer. In the state of Michigan. We
are in the top five for deer vehicle collisions. You
talk about gassing the geese. I remember not too long ago,
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it was maybe four or five years ago that in
my little town of Norton Shores, Michigan, we ended up
with so many deer the state hired sharpshooters to come
in and kill them. They paid to get them killed,
where people would have paid the state to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And not only do they pay them with our tax
dollars to kill wildlife that were not allowed to responsibly harvest,
but they used bait and high powered rifles that we
the people. This is a King George outrage. Go right
now where the King George gets to do stuff with
wildlife that doesn't allow you, the citizens. And it's not
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just Michigan. I'm working on all fifty states, Tutor. There
are record numbers of grizzly bears in Montana and Wyoming
being killed in self defense. They're not endangered. They have
The grizzly bear has not been endangered out west since
nineteen seventy. I've been in the thoroughfare elk hunting. There's
grizzly There's more grizzly bears than there are black bears
in Michigan. The sand Hill crane is a liability, not
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an asset. It could be an asset just by opening
a sustained yield, science based annual season. The morning dove
is a liability. It's not being generating family hours of recreation.
The black bear is underutilized by at least fifty percent.
The white tailed deer the entire southeast section of Michigan
should be archery deer hunting from September first to March first,
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no bag limit and no tags because the trucks don't
have a tag when they hit tens of thousands of deer.
The trucks don't hit an animal that has antlers. I'm
telling you I have the remedies because I know you
know wildlife, and there's going to be the squawkers out there,
you know the guys at the hashbash. Well, Nugen's a
convicted wildlife violator. Yeah, before President Trump came down the escalator.
(07:09):
I was a victim of lawfare by barackas and Eric
Holder where they wanted to destroy my conservation reputation by
charging me with crimes that were never committed. I did
everything properly in Alaska and in California, but Barack Obama
and Eric Holder told their US attorneys get ted NuGen
(07:31):
and his name is Jack Schmidt, and he's a punk,
and the state of Alaska didn't want to charge me.
But Barack Obama and Eric Holder with Jack Schmidt, who
has no soul, he would have arrested Rosa Parks. He
would have shot Vicky Weaver, he would have burned the
branch Davidians that's the kind of corruption and the immorality
that runs a muck when the Democrats have control over anything.
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So I'm here to tell you I am a conservationist.
I reverentially utilize and optimized the value and the utility
of these precious wildlife resource that brought great continues to
bring great happiness to this old guitar player. And I'm
going to keep fighting and thank you people. Tell me
all the time. Tell Tutor Dixon, thank her for fighting
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for conservation, private property rights, and the reverential value of
wildlife resources in the state of Michigan.
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ted nugent. After this, we went to the upper Peninsula
of Michigan a few weeks ago, a couple weeknds ago.
I was out up there and there were groups of
people that kept coming to us and they said, you
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have no idea. We have such a problem with bears
up here. They are ripping the deer apart right on
our property. You see it. We can almost not hunt
the deer anymore because we have this massive problem with bears.
But we can't get an more bear tags so we've
got bears running amock, the deer getting ripped up. They
have a wolf is situation as well, because we voted
against shooting the wolves. So we have a huge problem
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in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Meanwhile, here in the
Lower Peninsula of Michigan, we have a massive deer problem.
I said, well, maybe we should take some of your
bears move them down south. Since we're not allowed to
shoot them, we have no other We have to like
rely on nature to take care of things now because
government's in the way. How stupid is that?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, it's real stupid, and it's offensive, and it's cruel,
and it's it's I think it's.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Crazy, dangerous and dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
They need to double the bear tags in Michigan, in
the Lower and the Upper. They need to open the
season on wolves. They wolves are not endangered. They haven't
been endangered for twenty plus years. They have exceeded the
return population that the US Fish and Wildlife Service that
was corrupt beyond description for years and maybe in some
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way still is. Because grizzly bears are not endangered. Wolves
are not endangered, but conservation in Michigan because of an
overpopulation of bears or wolves. Conservation is endangered. Yes, you
were meeting with real dedicated conservation families in the sacred
grounds of the Upper Peninsula and they are just livid
because some hash bash guy. And I know that's wild
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to say that, but I really believe that the people
are making these regulations. They've got to be stoned, they
gotta be animal right.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They are indoctrinated by these universities. These are young kids
that come out of these universities that are all about
climate environment. They think they don't even know. They have
no idea. They've never hunted in their lives. They have
no idea anything about nature. They've never lived in these areas.
That's the thing that makes me the most mad. You've
got a kid from either ann Arbor or Lancing or
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Detroit that's telling people in the up what they can
and cannot do. I mean, we've got I was just
reading about a story of a guy who owns a
ranch like yours, a pig ranch, where they had young
DNR officers come and lie to them and say, hey,
we want to pay with a money order. We want
to hide what we're doing from our wives. We don't
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want them to know. But they were really taking pigs
off the property to DNA test them. To go back
and bring a lawsuit against this farm years later. I mean,
this is sick. This is a government weaponization.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, let me tell you, tutor, once again, I'm just
a guitar player. I never went to college because I
was too busy learning stuff. And once again, I know
about farming and ranching and wildlife and livestock. The DNR
sued me for having something that doesn't exist. They sued
me because I had feral Russian war Feral is livestock
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that has escaped. My pigs are still on Sunrise Acres.
They are not feral, and they're not Russian. Russian is
not a species, it's a gender and a geography. The
only Russian boar in the world are male pigs that
are in Russia. These people are out of their minds.
They sent a couple of little spineless hash Bash undercover
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agents to my place and they said, can I shoot
a Russian bar here? And Paul Wilson, who's been managing
my place for the last thirty years, said, Russian boar.
There's no such thing as a Russian boar. And you
run into a male pig the pigs on our ranch
are gen Maybe this is where that confusion. Maybe they
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know no gender. So maybe Caitlin Jenner is in charge
of pig terminology. Because there's only bores and sows. There
is nothing in between. And so Tutor the DNR debate me.
Come on my Ted Nugent Real America Voice Spirit Campfire,
or join me on Tutor Dixon's podcast, and you tell
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me why there's not a sand Hill crane season and
we are forced to immorlly want to waste a wildlife resource.
Do you know that every state in the nation, every
civilization in the nation, has a law that against wanton waste.
You're not allowed to shoot an animal and let it rot.
That's immoral, it's cruel, it's indecent, it's soulless. But what's cruel, immoral,
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indecent and solace is the law in Michigan. I've had
a couple of game wards who I really respect law enforcement.
I love them dearly, and I go, you know, I
told the game ward and this kind of stuff, the
overpopulation of deer. You gotta have a tag. There's an
AAG tag, or a d map tag, or a dough
tag or three points on a side tag. I said,
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you know, none of that makes any sense. And he said, well, Ted,
it's the law. And I said to him, would you
arrest Rosa Parks or would you think? Would you take
PTol from that poor old deer hunter in Monroe, Michigan
because he had a concealed weapon permit, because he was
keeping and bearing arms, You took away his pistol, charged
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him with a felony, and then you dropped the felony
charges and you destroyed his pistol. Would can you? I
actually went upside his head. I went, you need to think, man,
think there's a bunch of laws that are bad and immortal. Well,
we have to go through the legislative process. I don't.
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My name is Ted Newdy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And not a lot of these aren't laws. They're rules
that are made by the DNR.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I got better rules. I got rules that said
you need to respect sustain yields, science based wildlife management
to remain in the asset column. The wolf is overpopulated,
the black bear is overpopulated, the samuel creates are overpopulated.
We grow more doves than all the pheasant, quailed, woodcock,
and grouse combined. And these numb nuts. Call it a songbird.
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By the way, garlic and butter. This songbird is delicious,
and so is sand hill crane. My name is Ted Nugian.
I shoot sand hill cranes and I eat them. Put
me in front of a jury and make your case.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That's but my point. My point is the DNR can
make these rules that act as laws. It's totally out
of control government. Totally out of control government. And you
make such a great point when you talk about all
of these when you talk about the sand hill cranes,
we talk about the doves, when you talk about the deer.
There is so much opportunity to bring revenue into the state.
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We are desperate, supposedly desperate for revenue, and every day
it gets worse because the population keeps getting smaller in
the state of Michigan. We could be bringing people in
to pay our bills because we could be issuing more
bear tags, elk tags, deer tags. You could have people
out there hunting sand hill cranes. We could have an
entire industry that would bring in billions of dollars that
the government will not allow because of these climate activist kids.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And I really believe, and you know, The term conspiracy
theorist theory was invented by the CIA to cover up
the murder of John F. Kennedy. You can look it up.
In fact, I know some of these guys conspiracy theory.
It's not a conspiracy theory that the government of Michigan,
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their regulations and their flawed policies, are against independency. They're
against self sufficiency, against people pursuing the only real, healthy,
natural diet in the world, wild game because doves are
better than any free range chicken, because there are no
free range chicken. I got a free range chicken this morning.
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It's called a cock. Pheasant, the only thing positive that
ever came out of China. So the reason I have
pheasants on my sacred grounds here in Jackson County is
because I buy them and put them out in my
ultimate habitat, and they're surviving because around the state pheasant,
the mighty ring neck pheasant used to be king. It
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used to generate billions of dollars in revenues. But when
you protect hawks and owls and bobcats and fox and
coyotes and coons and skunks and possum, and you farm
fence road road to road, and you pest aside and
herbicide the hell out of everything. The pheasant, the quail
have no chance but on my property. Because I'm a
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real conservationist. I have lots of pheasants and lots of quail,
lots of sand hill cranes. I just had a huge
river outer cross my driveway just a few minutes before
I called you. So my point is that the goofy
guitar player is a better, more responsible steward of God's
renewable precious resources than the Department of the Department of
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Natural Resources and the Natural Resource Commission. And that is
so offensive, so hurtful to the families of Michigan that
cherish our connection with God's miraculous creation. During the hunting season.
And by the way, Tutor, I'm having an awesome hunting season.
And here's the trick that I want to make sure
everybody takes home from this discussion today. Push back, challenge
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these people. You need to call your state rep. You
need to call your center, you need to call the DNR.
I'm supposed to register every dear I killed and show
him where I tried to. I have to admit I'm
an old man. I tried to get on the app
on my phone and I can't do it, So DNR,
I'm not going to register when and where I killed
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my dear because I can't figure out the technology. And
I'm speaking for a bunch of old.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Guys, but it's not just old guys, even me. If
I'm in the up. There are plenty of places where
my phone doesn't connect, so there's no way to do that.
That's baloney. The idea that your phone is going to
connect no matter where you are definitely not in Michigan.
I mean I get within I get within five miles
of the lake in my phone doesn't connect. There is
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no way to ensure that you can do that. That's bloney.
One other thing I want to get to when you
talk about being a good steward, how about this one.
The story of Matthew and Teresa License. They have the
Michigan Duck Rescue and Sanctuary in Washna County. They have
been charged with six misdemeanor counts because they have been
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rehabilitating flightless birds and they say they want to go
in and gas all the birds. They want to be
done with this. They say they don't have the right licenses.
These people have a sanctuary for these birds. These birds
aren't going anywhere. They can't fly the DNR I mean,
and I've experienced this. We live in a little lake
with a lot of geese. If you have a goose
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out there that has a broken leg, they come and
they kill it. They just come and they kill it.
And like you said, that's just waste, it's just being
thrown away. These people want to have these animals on
their property and they're being told they have to get
rid of them. Why.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You know, there decent people, conscientious carrying people, and that
would be the people who want to really rehabilitate an
injured animal. There's heartless, soulless, discompassionate, cruel people like the
bureaucrats who just want to kill an animal, even though
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someone has taken a lot of effort and a lot
of hard work to rehabilitate these injured animals. Just stop
and think it. Regarding licenses, If I find an injured
animal on my property, I don't need some bureaucrats authorization
to do the right thing. I'm just a guitar player,
but I know if it's terminally injured, I'll kill it
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and eat it. And I don't have to call anybody
for permission. And if the beavers are flooding my driveway
and destroying my crops, I don't need to get authorization
from King George to trap the beaver. Well, there's a season, Ted.
The season is when the beaver overpopulated and they're destroying
my property. The season is now. And again, all you
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D and R guys that are getting all angry at
Ted Nugent for saying this, come on my podcast. I
have Ted Nugent Real America's Voice, Spirit Camp and our
Spirit of the Wild show touror thank God for Chermaine's
Queen of the Fourth's that's why people watch it. Our show,
Ted Nugent's Spirit of the Wild has been running for
thirty six years. It's on a a week on the
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Pursuit Network. It's the most washed outdoor show in the history.
And going back to Mortoneth, because we have fun and
we're honest, and we don't produce our show. We document
a natural, fun, conservation driven lifestyle and Ted Newgen's Spirit
of the Wild. They could come on. I'll give them
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a segment, but there they won't because somewhere deep in
their soul they know they're wrong and they're corrupt. Get
it right and tutor at some point. I've done it
on my podcast and on Spirit of the Wild TV.
I know how to make Michigan the number one hunting state.
And it has nothing to do with three points aside
or rotting sand hillkraines in the field, or letting wolves
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kill all the deer in the The answers are so obvious.
It's like a guy that's got cancer, you might want
to quit smoking. So it's not mysterious. It's conservation, sustained yield,
habitat carrying capacity, population dynamics, winter severity index. That's the
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system by which we manage optimal, healthy, balanced wildlife. So
it's in the asset column for us to utilize with respect.
Those words have never come out in a classroom in America.
No conservation officer, nobody at the DNR or the NRC
has ever said those things. I don't think they know
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those things. Shame on you bureaucrats.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And there's so much opportunity for this state to bring
in money doing it. That's the thing that makes me
the most mad. I'm like, we have this, we're constantly
trying to figure out how to fund the schools, how
to get the kids to read, how to make sure
that we can get property taxes lower. And I'm like,
you have this resource. You have a resource in the
Great Lakes, you have a resource in the hunting, in
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the sportsmanship, and we do not take advantage of those.
We cut those budgets every year. We cut the budget
to make sure people know that you can come to
the state and hunt. We cut the budget so people
know there's tourism and there's beaches here. It makes no sense.
Those are How do you think Florida has no income tax?
They let other people pay their taxes because everybody wants
to visit. We could be that same kind of state,
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but we don't because we have a government that is
out of control. You know, It's funny. I was driving
up to Macinos City on Sunday and as we're driving up,
I kid you not, this is going to make you crazy.
There is an electric sign where the government can change
what's on the sign, and it literally says you need
to be aware that the majority of accidents with deer
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happened between dusk and dawn. And I'm like, why are
we paying for this sign? And so what are we
gonna Oh my gosh, it's dusk. We should all get
off the road. How about we get rid of the
deer problem.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, Wisconsin has half the number of moose that
Michigan does, and they have a season on moose. Do
you know the sixty moose in the up were killed
by vehicles? Do you know the revenues if we auctioned
off a couple of moose tags every year and had
a lottery or something to put the moose back in
the asset column. And let's let's talk about the biggest
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scam in the history of conservation, Chronic wasting disease. Everybody
write this down. Chronic wasting disease has never hurt a
deer herd anywhere ever.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's the reason you can't bait.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
More deer, the reason more deer will die on any
given day on the highways of America than all confirmed
deaths by CWD. Meanwhile, they want to keep spending millions,
tens hundreds of millions of dollars research in it. Meanwhile,
episodic hemorrhagic disease has literally wiped out populations of deer
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in Ohio and Indiana. It's actually hit Jackson Countying around
the state a little bit. But the point is the
bureaucrats don't care about fiscal accountability. If we really examine
the budget of the Michigan D and R, I promise
you they spend ninety nine cents out of every dollar
on jokes, on waste, on fraud, on duplicity, on scabell.
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You need to collar all the moose in the Upperpreneur.
We need to buy more moose for Ile Royale. They
want to study the relationship between moose and wolves. Hey,
I'm a guitar player, but I can tell you what
the relationship is between moose and wolves. You need to
sell moose licenses and wolf licenses to keep them balanced
and bring them into the asset column. Can you imagine
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the revenue for moos and wolf licenses in the upper
peninsul the Isle roy.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
There's more are in northern Michigan than ever in recorded history.
And they they'll ban bird feeders instead of issuing mark
this is planet of the Ape stuff that's out of
their mind.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
That's people keep saying, how are we going to get
the incomes tax down? How are we going to get
the property tax down. You got to get revenue somewhere.
There's revenue just sitting there, just sitting there waiting for us,
and we are not taking it, and people want to
pay it. It's not even like a question. People want
to come in and pay it. Well, one last thing,
we talked a little bit about your ranch. There used
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to be seventy five pig ranches. They have now gone
down to five in the state. The state has come in.
They have sometimes come in and just killed all the
animals on a ranch because they've decided that the people
are It's like, what are they calling it an invasive
species or something? An invasive species that is being kept
on a ranch. Oh, is it possible.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Higgs are not invasive? I think Captain Cook brought him
over in fifteen oh nine. The ringneck pheasant is an
invasive species. The Hungarian partridge, the chinook salmon is an
invasis can manage them in the asset column. Tutor again
(28:23):
to try to make sense out of any regulations that
by law Krik Gibson and I and a bunch of
hard work in Michigan conservation families past proposition g that
demands the common sense, the logic that all wildlife regulations
have to be based on sound science. Here's one for you.
No regulations in Michigan when it comes to wildlife management, hunting, fishing,
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and trapping. None of the laws are based on sound sides.
I know, I'm nut in Lansing.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. I really believe. I mean, we
have this marijuana situation. We've got a marijuana shop on
every quarter. But imagine if you allowed people to have
their own businesses like you have, if you allowed sportsmanship
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to take off in the state of Michigan, that would
be the next booming industry. And it is so ratcheted
back right now by this crazy, tyrannical government. We just
could open so much money for this state. It makes
me so sad. But I will say, we struggle to
get your folks out to vote. You have Hunter Nation,
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you're working on it. Are we going to get hunters
out to vote this time?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You know? And again I'm going to give you an
overview that is one of the most heartbreaking experiences of
my life. When Donald Trump decided to run for president
against all the entrenched deep state thieves, he told us
that he wasn't really interested in us cultivating the hunter
vote because hunters don't vote. So we examine that we
have a bunch of rich guys that bought all the data,
(30:02):
and you know that in the state of Michigan, and
in twenty seventeen that less than that sixty two percent
of license hunters had never voted.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I can't believe it. It's so awful.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Why why, Well, here's the battle cry, Michigan. I love Michigan.
I am the eternal Michigan Maniac. I'm a Michiganiac. I'm
the most bad mind. I'm your Detroit muscle daddy. I
spend every summer and hunting season in Michigan because it's
part of the Nugent family tradition and soul. And I
know I'm speaking to people that really, really are dedicated
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to this conservation lifestyle. If you don't vote, Gretchen Whitmer
would like to thank you, because your non vote isn't
isn't a isn't isn't a zero, It's a negative. If
the conservation Christian, constitutional conservative licensed hunters of Michigan voted
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and meaningful numbers like we did in twenty twenty four,
if we would do that every vote, we could get
Michigan back into that wonderful, proud state of Christian constitutional
conservation conservativism. So Hunters, I know it's the rut. When
it's time to vote. You can give up one day
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register vote God, family, country, constitution, the build a rights,
tech commandments, private property rights, law and order, work, ethic, goodwill,
and decency. Go to hunter nation dot org. Hunter Nation
dot org is about one thing, and one thing only
getting that heretofore untapped huge conservative army in America and
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in Michigan to vote their family values and freedom. And
it's so easy to understand that unless you go to
the hash bash every year. So hunter nation dot org.
Hunter Nation. And we know that all the wildlife organizations
and charities have done wonderful work for the elk and
the turkey and the deer and the pheasant and the habitat.
(32:11):
But if we don't vote our conservative values, none of
that matters. And I could go on and thank you
to it. By the way, she may want to tell you,
and I want to tell you how much we love
you because you are what the founding fathers wanted all
Americans to be suspicious of all authority, to question all authority,
and to demand constitutional accountability, which doesn't even exist anymore,
(32:36):
to demand constitutional accountability from our elected employees. So we
got some of these numb nuts out there. Nugent's are radical. Yeah,
I'm so radical. I dare to experiment in self government
and kill my own food. Yes, I'm a radical. Sign
me up. So anybody that's not a radical, let me
speak to you. Just bend over and obey stupidity. And
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all you game wardens out there think man sink. If
it's in a case inaccessible to the occupants, that would
be an infringement. I get to keep and bear arms.
It doesn't say keep and case arms. Are you? Are
you kidding me? I've got this wonderful thing here of
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the Michigan Great Lakes Gun Rights Organization. Join that organization,
be a member of the Gun Owners of America, the
National Rifle Association. But communicate with your elected employees and
go in a case inaccessible to the occupants. That's the
definition of infringement.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Absolutely out of control government. We always question it, and
I agree with you. Question everything. I've seen it on
the Republican side, I've seen it on the Democrats side.
I've seen Republicans and Democrats locking arms over things that
I say, this is not right. This is absolutely not right.
And that's why I will say. These elections coming up
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in so many states, you will see in twenty twenty six,
I think it's thirty four or thirty six guminatorial races.
Those are the people who are choosing your directors of
these agencies, these out of control agencies. This is the
time for you to get really involved. If you are
a hunter out there, you want someone who is on
your team who is going to stop this insanity. It's
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going to stop insanity for our farmers, for our manufacturers,
and for our sportsmen. So make sure you go out
and vote Ted Nugent. I love you too. Toosea made
I love her.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Take advantage of this mystical, miraculous fall hunting season of harvest. Everybody,
get your kids out there. Aim small, miss small, But
more importantly than getting that buck and getting that duck,
and getting that squirrel in that rabbit, and that pheasant
in that grouse and that mighty timberdoodle. More important than
all that, communicate with your election to employees and let
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them know that no gun, no regulations, no hunting, fishing,
trapping regulations in Michigan are based on sound science. We
got to get it back. Three points aside doesn't mean
anything age wise or genetic wise. This again, thank you
for allowing me to mouth off, because as an American,
the founding fathers wanted all of us to mouth off
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and get the attention of our elected employees and hold
them accountable. And you do God's work and we love
you for that.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Thank you. I know when you said you're a radical,
I'm like, I think you're an American. I think that's how
it's all we're all supposed to be. But I appreciate
you being here. Thank you so much. I appreciate everybody
who listens to the Tutor Dixon podcast for this episode
and others. Go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com, the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
You're gonna want to watch this one. It's on Rumble
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or YouTube at Tutor Dixon. Join us next time and
have a blessed day.
All right, all right, welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
As you can see, we have Ted Nugent here with us.
He serves as the national spokesperson for Hunter Nation, and
I want to talk to him about Michigan today because
if you didn't know, we just saved a baby, a
blind baby deer, because that's how corrupt our government is.
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We have to save an animal from getting killed by
the government.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know, Tutor, I'm just a guitar player, but I've
never missed a hunting season. I was in diapers in
nineteen forty nine at the Nugent Deer Camp. It is
a soul cleansing, mystical, miraculous, powerful healing, participation with nature
as a conservation, as a resource steward, as a person
who walks the sacred wild ground. And I am heartbroke
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along with everybody that I run into. When I go
to the gas station, I go to the hardware store,
I go to the feed mill, I go to the
sushi bar, I go to Whole Foods where you wouldn't
think it would be Nugent territory. It's true logic, common sense,
goodwill and decency, territory and shamane and I are approached
everywhere we go. We feel honored and humbled that people
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connect with us when we condemn the atrocities, not just
disagreeable difference of opinion. We're talking about runaway immorality and
cruelty by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources. If it
wasn't for Kyle Green of Greenway Outdoors, they would have
gassed thousands of geese. Yes, instead of selling the licenses
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and letting we the people who own the wild resources,
to utilize them with a sense of reverence. So thank
you for bringing this to light. Because the dn R,
the Natural Resource Commission, pretty much everybody in Lansing with
a D after their name, are completely out of control
and offensive to the good conservation families of this great
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state of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I have to say, I'm almost worried that some of
the people with an R understand what it means to
just get government out of there. There's still that there's
like this mindset in the state of Michigan. Well, we
have to get in there and control. And I told
people on Sunday night, when I was up in northern Michigan,
I said, the DNR is not I had one guy
who said, you know, I used to be a part
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of the DNR. I said, the DNR today is not
the DNR that was twenty five years ago. It is
a different DNR. They are in there to control and
shut down and to take the weapons away from our hunters.
We have got to stop this. But I mean, it
has gone so far, and I think that we have
an opportunity to bring attention to this because of this
little deer, which I think is interesting. God uses animals
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in all different ways. You remember the story of Peanut
in New York. Well, we've got our own peanut, the
squirrel that was killed by Kathy Hokeel Will we have
our own peanut here in Michigan a blind deer that
a sanctuary took and said, okay, we're going to rehab
this deer and keep it for educational purposes. They have
a deer and a coyote. The governor and the DNR
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decided that they were going to go in and kill them.
The deer has been saved because of the uproar. But
I also think it calls attention to the fact that
you have this out of control government.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well stop and think I could keep you here for
one hundred days a thousand days with examples of sheer.
As I testified in Lamsing, it's not just disagreeable, it's
insane that you think you can vote the number one
game bird on the planet that's not a guitar players assumption.
The mourning dove is the most hunted species on Earth.
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More family hours of recreation, more revenues generated, more conservation,
more delicious, natural, organic, healthy food from mourning doves. But
they said, well, we voted they're a songbird. Well you
could you vote the pheasant is a songbird. I suppose
if you went to the hashbash in ann Arbor you
could vote the pheasant is a songbird if you're that
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brain dead. The sand hill crane is a federal migratory game.
It's known universally by people who know wildlife. Sand hill
crane ribi in the sky. They're so overpopulated.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So I mean, if you are driving, no matter where
you are in this state, you look at a field,
you will see it filled with sand hill cranes.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And they're depleting tens of millions of dollars worth of agriculture.
And not only are the d n R in the
NRC so immoral as to not open the season on
a wildlife resource that is beyond the carrying capacity, that
is in the liability column where the taxpayers have to
compensate the ad community. Not only will they not open
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the season, but they'll give you a piece of paper
to shoot a ribi in the sky. And by law,
by immral law, you're.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Not allowed to consume this precious ribbi in just shoot it. Terrible,
It's terrible. I don't think people understand. They just make
you can shoot it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You can, then you have to just let it its
dead body go. You can't do anything with it. It
is crazy. But there's also I mean, it's not just
sandhill cranes. In the state of Michigan. We have a
massive population of deer. In the state of Michigan. We
are in the top five for deer vehicle collisions. You
talk about gassing the geese. I remember not too long ago,
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it was maybe four or five years ago that in
my little town of Norton Shores, Michigan, we ended up
with so many deer the state hired sharpshooters to come
in and kill them. They paid to get them killed,
where people would have paid the state to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And not only do they pay them with our tax
dollars to kill wildlife that were not allowed to responsibly harvest,
but they used bait and high powered rifles that we
the people. This is a King George outrage. Go right
now where the King George gets to do stuff with
wildlife that doesn't allow you, the citizens. And it's not
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just Michigan. I'm working on all fifty states, Tutor. There
are record numbers of grizzly bears in Montana and Wyoming
being killed in self defense. They're not endangered. They have
The grizzly bear has not been endangered out west since
nineteen seventy. I've been in the thoroughfare elk hunting. There's
grizzly There's more grizzly bears than there are black bears
in Michigan. The sand Hill crane is a liability, not
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an asset. It could be an asset just by opening
a sustained yield, science based annual season. The morning dove
is a liability. It's not being generating family hours of recreation.
The black bear is underutilized by at least fifty percent.
The white tailed deer the entire southeast section of Michigan
should be archery deer hunting from September first to March first,
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no bag limit and no tags because the trucks don't
have a tag when they hit tens of thousands of deer.
The trucks don't hit an animal that has antlers. I'm
telling you I have the remedies because I know you
know wildlife, and there's going to be the squawkers out there,
you know the guys at the hashbash. Well, Nugen's a
convicted wildlife violator. Yeah, before President Trump came down the escalator.
(07:09):
I was a victim of lawfare by barackas and Eric
Holder where they wanted to destroy my conservation reputation by
charging me with crimes that were never committed. I did
everything properly in Alaska and in California, but Barack Obama
and Eric Holder told their US attorneys get ted NuGen
(07:31):
and his name is Jack Schmidt, and he's a punk,
and the state of Alaska didn't want to charge me.
But Barack Obama and Eric Holder with Jack Schmidt, who
has no soul, he would have arrested Rosa Parks. He
would have shot Vicky Weaver, he would have burned the
branch Davidians that's the kind of corruption and the immorality
that runs a muck when the Democrats have control over anything.
(07:53):
So I'm here to tell you I am a conservationist.
I reverentially utilize and optimized the value and the utility
of these precious wildlife resource that brought great continues to
bring great happiness to this old guitar player. And I'm
going to keep fighting and thank you people. Tell me
all the time. Tell Tutor Dixon, thank her for fighting
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for conservation, private property rights, and the reverential value of
wildlife resources in the state of Michigan.
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ted nugent. After this, we went to the upper Peninsula
of Michigan a few weeks ago, a couple weeknds ago.
I was out up there and there were groups of
people that kept coming to us and they said, you
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have no idea. We have such a problem with bears
up here. They are ripping the deer apart right on
our property. You see it. We can almost not hunt
the deer anymore because we have this massive problem with bears.
But we can't get an more bear tags so we've
got bears running amock, the deer getting ripped up. They
have a wolf is situation as well, because we voted
against shooting the wolves. So we have a huge problem
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in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Meanwhile, here in the
Lower Peninsula of Michigan, we have a massive deer problem.
I said, well, maybe we should take some of your
bears move them down south. Since we're not allowed to
shoot them, we have no other We have to like
rely on nature to take care of things now because
government's in the way. How stupid is that?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, it's real stupid, and it's offensive, and it's cruel,
and it's it's I think it's.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Crazy, dangerous and dangerous.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
They need to double the bear tags in Michigan, in
the Lower and the Upper. They need to open the
season on wolves. They wolves are not endangered. They haven't
been endangered for twenty plus years. They have exceeded the
return population that the US Fish and Wildlife Service that
was corrupt beyond description for years and maybe in some
(11:00):
way still is. Because grizzly bears are not endangered. Wolves
are not endangered, but conservation in Michigan because of an
overpopulation of bears or wolves. Conservation is endangered. Yes, you
were meeting with real dedicated conservation families in the sacred
grounds of the Upper Peninsula and they are just livid
because some hash bash guy. And I know that's wild
(11:25):
to say that, but I really believe that the people
are making these regulations. They've got to be stoned, they
gotta be animal right.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They are indoctrinated by these universities. These are young kids
that come out of these universities that are all about
climate environment. They think they don't even know. They have
no idea. They've never hunted in their lives. They have
no idea anything about nature. They've never lived in these areas.
That's the thing that makes me the most mad. You've
got a kid from either ann Arbor or Lancing or
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Detroit that's telling people in the up what they can
and cannot do. I mean, we've got I was just
reading about a story of a guy who owns a
ranch like yours, a pig ranch, where they had young
DNR officers come and lie to them and say, hey,
we want to pay with a money order. We want
to hide what we're doing from our wives. We don't
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want them to know. But they were really taking pigs
off the property to DNA test them. To go back
and bring a lawsuit against this farm years later. I mean,
this is sick. This is a government weaponization.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Well, let me tell you, tutor, once again, I'm just
a guitar player. I never went to college because I
was too busy learning stuff. And once again, I know
about farming and ranching and wildlife and livestock. The DNR
sued me for having something that doesn't exist. They sued
me because I had feral Russian war Feral is livestock
(12:51):
that has escaped. My pigs are still on Sunrise Acres.
They are not feral, and they're not Russian. Russian is
not a species, it's a gender and a geography. The
only Russian boar in the world are male pigs that
are in Russia. These people are out of their minds.
They sent a couple of little spineless hash Bash undercover
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agents to my place and they said, can I shoot
a Russian bar here? And Paul Wilson, who's been managing
my place for the last thirty years, said, Russian boar.
There's no such thing as a Russian boar. And you
run into a male pig the pigs on our ranch
are gen Maybe this is where that confusion. Maybe they
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know no gender. So maybe Caitlin Jenner is in charge
of pig terminology. Because there's only bores and sows. There
is nothing in between. And so Tutor the DNR debate me.
Come on my Ted Nugent Real America Voice Spirit Campfire,
or join me on Tutor Dixon's podcast, and you tell
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me why there's not a sand Hill crane season and
we are forced to immorlly want to waste a wildlife resource.
Do you know that every state in the nation, every
civilization in the nation, has a law that against wanton waste.
You're not allowed to shoot an animal and let it rot.
That's immoral, it's cruel, it's indecent, it's soulless. But what's cruel, immoral,
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indecent and solace is the law in Michigan. I've had
a couple of game wards who I really respect law enforcement.
I love them dearly, and I go, you know, I
told the game ward and this kind of stuff, the
overpopulation of deer. You gotta have a tag. There's an
AAG tag, or a d map tag, or a dough
tag or three points on a side tag. I said,
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you know, none of that makes any sense. And he said, well, Ted,
it's the law. And I said to him, would you
arrest Rosa Parks or would you think? Would you take
PTol from that poor old deer hunter in Monroe, Michigan
because he had a concealed weapon permit, because he was
keeping and bearing arms, You took away his pistol, charged
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him with a felony, and then you dropped the felony
charges and you destroyed his pistol. Would can you? I
actually went upside his head. I went, you need to think, man,
think there's a bunch of laws that are bad and immortal. Well,
we have to go through the legislative process. I don't.
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My name is Ted Newdy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And not a lot of these aren't laws. They're rules
that are made by the DNR.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I got better rules. I got rules that said
you need to respect sustain yields, science based wildlife management
to remain in the asset column. The wolf is overpopulated,
the black bear is overpopulated, the samuel creates are overpopulated.
We grow more doves than all the pheasant, quailed, woodcock,
and grouse combined. And these numb nuts. Call it a songbird.
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By the way, garlic and butter. This songbird is delicious,
and so is sand hill crane. My name is Ted Nugian.
I shoot sand hill cranes and I eat them. Put
me in front of a jury and make your case.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That's but my point. My point is the DNR can
make these rules that act as laws. It's totally out
of control government. Totally out of control government. And you
make such a great point when you talk about all
of these when you talk about the sand hill cranes,
we talk about the doves, when you talk about the deer.
There is so much opportunity to bring revenue into the state.
(16:31):
We are desperate, supposedly desperate for revenue, and every day
it gets worse because the population keeps getting smaller in
the state of Michigan. We could be bringing people in
to pay our bills because we could be issuing more
bear tags, elk tags, deer tags. You could have people
out there hunting sand hill cranes. We could have an
entire industry that would bring in billions of dollars that
the government will not allow because of these climate activist kids.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And I really believe, and you know, The term conspiracy
theorist theory was invented by the CIA to cover up
the murder of John F. Kennedy. You can look it up.
In fact, I know some of these guys conspiracy theory.
It's not a conspiracy theory that the government of Michigan,
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their regulations and their flawed policies, are against independency. They're
against self sufficiency, against people pursuing the only real, healthy,
natural diet in the world, wild game because doves are
better than any free range chicken, because there are no
free range chicken. I got a free range chicken this morning.
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It's called a cock. Pheasant, the only thing positive that
ever came out of China. So the reason I have
pheasants on my sacred grounds here in Jackson County is
because I buy them and put them out in my
ultimate habitat, and they're surviving because around the state pheasant,
the mighty ring neck pheasant used to be king. It
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used to generate billions of dollars in revenues. But when
you protect hawks and owls and bobcats and fox and
coyotes and coons and skunks and possum, and you farm
fence road road to road, and you pest aside and
herbicide the hell out of everything. The pheasant, the quail
have no chance but on my property. Because I'm a
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real conservationist. I have lots of pheasants and lots of quail,
lots of sand hill cranes. I just had a huge
river outer cross my driveway just a few minutes before
I called you. So my point is that the goofy
guitar player is a better, more responsible steward of God's
renewable precious resources than the Department of the Department of
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Natural Resources and the Natural Resource Commission. And that is
so offensive, so hurtful to the families of Michigan that
cherish our connection with God's miraculous creation. During the hunting season.
And by the way, Tutor, I'm having an awesome hunting season.
And here's the trick that I want to make sure
everybody takes home from this discussion today. Push back, challenge
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these people. You need to call your state rep. You
need to call your center, you need to call the DNR.
I'm supposed to register every dear I killed and show
him where I tried to. I have to admit I'm
an old man. I tried to get on the app
on my phone and I can't do it, So DNR,
I'm not going to register when and where I killed
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my dear because I can't figure out the technology. And
I'm speaking for a bunch of old.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Guys, but it's not just old guys, even me. If
I'm in the up. There are plenty of places where
my phone doesn't connect, so there's no way to do that.
That's baloney. The idea that your phone is going to
connect no matter where you are definitely not in Michigan.
I mean I get within I get within five miles
of the lake in my phone doesn't connect. There is
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no way to ensure that you can do that. That's bloney.
One other thing I want to get to when you
talk about being a good steward, how about this one.
The story of Matthew and Teresa License. They have the
Michigan Duck Rescue and Sanctuary in Washna County. They have
been charged with six misdemeanor counts because they have been
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rehabilitating flightless birds and they say they want to go
in and gas all the birds. They want to be
done with this. They say they don't have the right licenses.
These people have a sanctuary for these birds. These birds
aren't going anywhere. They can't fly the DNR I mean,
and I've experienced this. We live in a little lake
with a lot of geese. If you have a goose
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out there that has a broken leg, they come and
they kill it. They just come and they kill it.
And like you said, that's just waste, it's just being
thrown away. These people want to have these animals on
their property and they're being told they have to get
rid of them. Why.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You know, there decent people, conscientious carrying people, and that
would be the people who want to really rehabilitate an
injured animal. There's heartless, soulless, discompassionate, cruel people like the
bureaucrats who just want to kill an animal, even though
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someone has taken a lot of effort and a lot
of hard work to rehabilitate these injured animals. Just stop
and think it. Regarding licenses, If I find an injured
animal on my property, I don't need some bureaucrats authorization
to do the right thing. I'm just a guitar player,
but I know if it's terminally injured, I'll kill it
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and eat it. And I don't have to call anybody
for permission. And if the beavers are flooding my driveway
and destroying my crops, I don't need to get authorization
from King George to trap the beaver. Well, there's a season, Ted.
The season is when the beaver overpopulated and they're destroying
my property. The season is now. And again, all you
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D and R guys that are getting all angry at
Ted Nugent for saying this, come on my podcast. I
have Ted Nugent Real America's Voice, Spirit Camp and our
Spirit of the Wild show touror thank God for Chermaine's
Queen of the Fourth's that's why people watch it. Our show,
Ted Nugent's Spirit of the Wild has been running for
thirty six years. It's on a a week on the
(22:26):
Pursuit Network. It's the most washed outdoor show in the history.
And going back to Mortoneth, because we have fun and
we're honest, and we don't produce our show. We document
a natural, fun, conservation driven lifestyle and Ted Newgen's Spirit
of the Wild. They could come on. I'll give them
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a segment, but there they won't because somewhere deep in
their soul they know they're wrong and they're corrupt. Get
it right and tutor at some point. I've done it
on my podcast and on Spirit of the Wild TV.
I know how to make Michigan the number one hunting state.
And it has nothing to do with three points aside
or rotting sand hillkraines in the field, or letting wolves
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kill all the deer in the The answers are so obvious.
It's like a guy that's got cancer, you might want
to quit smoking. So it's not mysterious. It's conservation, sustained yield,
habitat carrying capacity, population dynamics, winter severity index. That's the
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system by which we manage optimal, healthy, balanced wildlife. So
it's in the asset column for us to utilize with respect.
Those words have never come out in a classroom in America.
No conservation officer, nobody at the DNR or the NRC
has ever said those things. I don't think they know
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those things. Shame on you bureaucrats.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And there's so much opportunity for this state to bring
in money doing it. That's the thing that makes me
the most mad. I'm like, we have this, we're constantly
trying to figure out how to fund the schools, how
to get the kids to read, how to make sure
that we can get property taxes lower. And I'm like,
you have this resource. You have a resource in the
Great Lakes, you have a resource in the hunting, in
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the sportsmanship, and we do not take advantage of those.
We cut those budgets every year. We cut the budget
to make sure people know that you can come to
the state and hunt. We cut the budget so people
know there's tourism and there's beaches here. It makes no sense.
Those are How do you think Florida has no income tax?
They let other people pay their taxes because everybody wants
to visit. We could be that same kind of state,
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but we don't because we have a government that is
out of control. You know, It's funny. I was driving
up to Macinos City on Sunday and as we're driving up,
I kid you not, this is going to make you crazy.
There is an electric sign where the government can change
what's on the sign, and it literally says you need
to be aware that the majority of accidents with deer
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happened between dusk and dawn. And I'm like, why are
we paying for this sign? And so what are we
gonna Oh my gosh, it's dusk. We should all get
off the road. How about we get rid of the
deer problem.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You know, Wisconsin has half the number of moose that
Michigan does, and they have a season on moose. Do
you know the sixty moose in the up were killed
by vehicles? Do you know the revenues if we auctioned
off a couple of moose tags every year and had
a lottery or something to put the moose back in
the asset column. And let's let's talk about the biggest
(25:39):
scam in the history of conservation, Chronic wasting disease. Everybody
write this down. Chronic wasting disease has never hurt a
deer herd anywhere ever.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That's the reason you can't bait.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
More deer, the reason more deer will die on any
given day on the highways of America than all confirmed
deaths by CWD. Meanwhile, they want to keep spending millions,
tens hundreds of millions of dollars research in it. Meanwhile,
episodic hemorrhagic disease has literally wiped out populations of deer
(26:14):
in Ohio and Indiana. It's actually hit Jackson Countying around
the state a little bit. But the point is the
bureaucrats don't care about fiscal accountability. If we really examine
the budget of the Michigan D and R, I promise
you they spend ninety nine cents out of every dollar
on jokes, on waste, on fraud, on duplicity, on scabell.
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You need to collar all the moose in the Upperpreneur.
We need to buy more moose for Ile Royale. They
want to study the relationship between moose and wolves. Hey,
I'm a guitar player, but I can tell you what
the relationship is between moose and wolves. You need to
sell moose licenses and wolf licenses to keep them balanced
and bring them into the asset column. Can you imagine
(26:59):
the revenue for moos and wolf licenses in the upper
peninsul the Isle roy.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
There's more are in northern Michigan than ever in recorded history.
And they they'll ban bird feeders instead of issuing mark
this is planet of the Ape stuff that's out of
their mind.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
That's people keep saying, how are we going to get
the incomes tax down? How are we going to get
the property tax down. You got to get revenue somewhere.
There's revenue just sitting there, just sitting there waiting for us,
and we are not taking it, and people want to
pay it. It's not even like a question. People want
to come in and pay it. Well, one last thing,
we talked a little bit about your ranch. There used
(27:40):
to be seventy five pig ranches. They have now gone
down to five in the state. The state has come in.
They have sometimes come in and just killed all the
animals on a ranch because they've decided that the people
are It's like, what are they calling it an invasive
species or something? An invasive species that is being kept
on a ranch. Oh, is it possible.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Higgs are not invasive? I think Captain Cook brought him
over in fifteen oh nine. The ringneck pheasant is an
invasive species. The Hungarian partridge, the chinook salmon is an
invasis can manage them in the asset column. Tutor again
(28:23):
to try to make sense out of any regulations that
by law Krik Gibson and I and a bunch of
hard work in Michigan conservation families past proposition g that
demands the common sense, the logic that all wildlife regulations
have to be based on sound science. Here's one for you.
No regulations in Michigan when it comes to wildlife management, hunting, fishing,
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and trapping. None of the laws are based on sound sides.
I know, I'm nut in Lansing.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast. I really believe. I mean, we
have this marijuana situation. We've got a marijuana shop on
every quarter. But imagine if you allowed people to have
their own businesses like you have, if you allowed sportsmanship
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to take off in the state of Michigan, that would
be the next booming industry. And it is so ratcheted
back right now by this crazy, tyrannical government. We just
could open so much money for this state. It makes
me so sad. But I will say, we struggle to
get your folks out to vote. You have Hunter Nation,
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you're working on it. Are we going to get hunters
out to vote this time?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You know? And again I'm going to give you an
overview that is one of the most heartbreaking experiences of
my life. When Donald Trump decided to run for president
against all the entrenched deep state thieves, he told us
that he wasn't really interested in us cultivating the hunter
vote because hunters don't vote. So we examine that we
have a bunch of rich guys that bought all the data,
(30:02):
and you know that in the state of Michigan, and
in twenty seventeen that less than that sixty two percent
of license hunters had never voted.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I can't believe it. It's so awful.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Why why, Well, here's the battle cry, Michigan. I love Michigan.
I am the eternal Michigan Maniac. I'm a Michiganiac. I'm
the most bad mind. I'm your Detroit muscle daddy. I
spend every summer and hunting season in Michigan because it's
part of the Nugent family tradition and soul. And I
know I'm speaking to people that really, really are dedicated
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to this conservation lifestyle. If you don't vote, Gretchen Whitmer
would like to thank you, because your non vote isn't
isn't a isn't isn't a zero, It's a negative. If
the conservation Christian, constitutional conservative licensed hunters of Michigan voted
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and meaningful numbers like we did in twenty twenty four,
if we would do that every vote, we could get
Michigan back into that wonderful, proud state of Christian constitutional
conservation conservativism. So Hunters, I know it's the rut. When
it's time to vote. You can give up one day
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register vote God, family, country, constitution, the build a rights,
tech commandments, private property rights, law and order, work, ethic, goodwill,
and decency. Go to hunter nation dot org. Hunter Nation
dot org is about one thing, and one thing only
getting that heretofore untapped huge conservative army in America and
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in Michigan to vote their family values and freedom. And
it's so easy to understand that unless you go to
the hash bash every year. So hunter nation dot org.
Hunter Nation. And we know that all the wildlife organizations
and charities have done wonderful work for the elk and
the turkey and the deer and the pheasant and the habitat.
(32:11):
But if we don't vote our conservative values, none of
that matters. And I could go on and thank you
to it. By the way, she may want to tell you,
and I want to tell you how much we love
you because you are what the founding fathers wanted all
Americans to be suspicious of all authority, to question all authority,
and to demand constitutional accountability, which doesn't even exist anymore,
(32:36):
to demand constitutional accountability from our elected employees. So we
got some of these numb nuts out there. Nugent's are radical. Yeah,
I'm so radical. I dare to experiment in self government
and kill my own food. Yes, I'm a radical. Sign
me up. So anybody that's not a radical, let me
speak to you. Just bend over and obey stupidity. And
(33:02):
all you game wardens out there think man sink. If
it's in a case inaccessible to the occupants, that would
be an infringement. I get to keep and bear arms.
It doesn't say keep and case arms. Are you? Are
you kidding me? I've got this wonderful thing here of
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the Michigan Great Lakes Gun Rights Organization. Join that organization,
be a member of the Gun Owners of America, the
National Rifle Association. But communicate with your elected employees and
go in a case inaccessible to the occupants. That's the
definition of infringement.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Absolutely out of control government. We always question it, and
I agree with you. Question everything. I've seen it on
the Republican side, I've seen it on the Democrats side.
I've seen Republicans and Democrats locking arms over things that
I say, this is not right. This is absolutely not right.
And that's why I will say. These elections coming up
(34:05):
in so many states, you will see in twenty twenty six,
I think it's thirty four or thirty six guminatorial races.
Those are the people who are choosing your directors of
these agencies, these out of control agencies. This is the
time for you to get really involved. If you are
a hunter out there, you want someone who is on
your team who is going to stop this insanity. It's
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going to stop insanity for our farmers, for our manufacturers,
and for our sportsmen. So make sure you go out
and vote Ted Nugent. I love you too. Toosea made
I love her.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Take advantage of this mystical, miraculous fall hunting season of harvest. Everybody,
get your kids out there. Aim small, miss small, But
more importantly than getting that buck and getting that duck,
and getting that squirrel in that rabbit, and that pheasant
in that grouse and that mighty timberdoodle. More important than
all that, communicate with your election to employees and let
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them know that no gun, no regulations, no hunting, fishing,
trapping regulations in Michigan are based on sound science. We
got to get it back. Three points aside doesn't mean
anything age wise or genetic wise. This again, thank you
for allowing me to mouth off, because as an American,
the founding fathers wanted all of us to mouth off
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and get the attention of our elected employees and hold
them accountable. And you do God's work and we love
you for that.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Thank you. I know when you said you're a radical,
I'm like, I think you're an American. I think that's how
it's all we're all supposed to be. But I appreciate
you being here. Thank you so much. I appreciate everybody
who listens to the Tutor Dixon podcast for this episode
and others. Go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com, the
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
You're gonna want to watch this one. It's on Rumble
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or YouTube at Tutor Dixon. Join us next time and
have a blessed day.
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