September 19, 2024 • 23 mins
In this episode, Dr. Marty Makary discusses the alarming state of children's health, particularly the rise in obesity and chronic diseases. He emphasizes the role of diet, the impact of antibiotics on gut health, and the overuse of C-sections. Dr. Makary challenges the medical establishment's dogma and advocates for a return to whole foods and natural health practices. He shares insights from his book, 'Blind Spots,' urging listeners to take control of their health and make informed choices. Get your copy today - https://geni.us/blindspots - The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am so excited
today we have doctor Marty McCarey. He's a professor at
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and the author of
blind Spots, When Medicine Gets It Wrong and what it
means for our health. Doctor McCarey, thank you for so
much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Great to be with you. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So I just have to first point out that I
am also a McCarey, and that's part of the reason
that I am so excited about having you on. I
grew up as a McCarey, so that's my maiden name.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Cool, awesome, it's always good to reconnect with the McCarey
in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yes, there's not that many, so it is kind of fun.
But I also, as I mentioned, I also was a
patient of Johns Hopkins University. I went through breast cancer
there and my experience. I went to multiple different hospitals
before I found the doctors at Johns Hopkins. They were
so amazing. The care I got was so incredible. In fact,
(00:56):
after three years after my surgery for breast cancer, the
doctor called me back and said, I have a woman
who is just a little younger than you were when
you had cancer, and she's very scared. Would you talk
her through this? And I thought the number of people
that he sees that he would remember my case and
think about calling me. That's truly someone who cares.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, Look, we talk about cases all the time. Everybody's different,
and so that's kind of the best part about being
a doctor is actually the collegiality. So we're always talking
about patients, what we could do differently, and so, well,
I'm glad to hear you had a good experience.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, it was incredible, and I've followed you since then.
When you came out on the scene, I actually talked
to my doctors about you and I was like, this
is incredible. I'm so excited to see someone who is
not afraid to speak out. And you've been speaking out
about I guess I would say big medicine and just
what's happening and kind of this degradation of our health
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over time. And I've seen this with young kids. It's
something you've talked a lot about, and it's something that
I haven't been able to graciously put into words. But
as I've seen my girls go through school, I've seen this,
I would say an epidemic of obesity, and I keep saying,
it's not like we're eating that differently. There's something else
going wrong, and I feel like you would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
First of all, thank you for the kind words. I
don't think doctor Fauci is going to send me a
Christmas card this year, but I'm glad I did speak out.
You know, COVID was a little peek into a broader
medical establishment where a small group of doctors at the
top increasingly have the power. We have sort of central
planners now, if you will, in medicine, and the group
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think is powerful and they sometimes shut out different opinions.
But if you look at the track record of American
healthcare over the last fifty years, we're good at taking
care of emergencies, but we have failed in making the
population healthier. About half of kids now are overweight or obese.
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Is it that kids are more lazy or disobedient than
kids in Japan, where that rate is three percent? Or
have we poisoned the food supply? Have we given people
the wrong information about what's healthy and what's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We have a.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Chronic disease epidemic. A pediatrician may have rarely seen a
case of type two diabetes just one generation ago. Now
it's one in three children will go on to have
type two diabetes. We are seeing epidemic rates of autism
and cancer. Autism goes up fourteen percent every year for
the last twenty three consecutive years. In my field of
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pancreatic cancer, rates have doubled in twenty years. What's going on?
Who's asking the big questions? And we have this healthcare
system so focused on billing and coding, and we've done
a terrible thing to doctors. We give them these short
visits and we measure them by through We've not given
them the time or resources to actually ask the big questions.
(04:05):
Maybe we shouldn't be medicating everybody. Maybe we need to
talk about the root causes. Maybe we need to talk
about school lunch programs, not just putting every kid on ozempic.
Maybe we need to talk about talk about sleep quality,
not just putting everyone on anti hypertensions when their blood
pressure goes up. So we've got to ask these big questions.
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Our current medical leaders have failed us, and so many
of us now are going.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Directly to the public.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And that's why I wrote this book blind spots.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think that's been one of the biggest shocks is
to see that kids are going on ozempic. I was
at the doctor's office with my eleven year olds the
other day for their well visit, and at their well
visit they get their cholesterol checked and the doctor came
back in and said their cholesterol was normal level. And
I said, I mean, how often are you seeing eleven
year olds with bad cholesterol? And it was her face
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completely changed. She said, I have kids that come in
here that are over five hundred and I was like,
mind blown, how can that be.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, look, we've had these issues that we've ignored, and
it turns out what's going on. Increasingly as new research
comes out, what we're increasingly discovering is that we've introduced
so many chemicals and ultraprocessed foods into our diet. It's
not only changing the microbiome the lining of the GI tract,
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but the body is reacting to these chemicals that do
not appear in nature. There's an inflammatory response. There's an
immune system in the gastro intestinal tract, and so it's
not an acute inflammatory response. It's a low grade chronic
inflammatory response. A chronic inflammation that makes people feel sick,
and we've just been medicating these folks. There's been a
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lot of powerful group think in medicine. If you look
at our track record, we've ignored the food supply. We've
ignored the role of pesticides. If these pesticides are killing pests,
think they're doing to the bacteria in our gut. We've
allowed big pharma, big food, and big egg to control
the narrative. And so we've got to start talking about health.
And there's a lot of things that everyday folks should
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know about what they can do differently in their day
to day choices.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It's really hard as a parent because you hear this
and you think, I don't want to be told this.
I just don't want to hear that what I'm doing
is poisoning my kids because ultimately the food that goes
into their hands, I'm choosing for them. So how do
I choose the right thing? And is it already too
late when you say this about their gut? And I
heard you talking about antibiotics and how that can affect
their guts before three years old and make major changes
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even to their serotonin levels. And I think about depression
and anxiety and all the things that we see in
kids today that is different than we saw when I
was growing up. And I think, as a parent, gosh,
it's hard for me because I feel like I've done this.
So first, how do I choose? How do I make
good choices for my kids? And second if they have
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had something go awry? Is there a way to readjust
your gut?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So there's a couple important principles that I go through
in blind spots. In summary, you want to avoid pesticides
on fruits and vegetables where you eat the surface. Now,
if you're eating a watermelon, it may not matter nearly
as much, but when you're eating the surface, consider a strawberry.
A strawberry has been sprayed with on average seven point
eight different pesticides over a dozen times. Is that strawberry
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healthy only if it's organic. You want to avoid cooking
with these so called seed oils, the canola oil, vegetable oil,
soybean oil. They're not healthy. They sound healthy, but they
are not healthy. They're denatured by heating them up to
high levels. They are then changed with a chemical solvent,
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and this is a very cheap way of making an oil,
and that's why we have it because the government ironically
subsidizes these substances. Want to avoid those and cook with
natural oils, avocado oil, coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil.
So avoid unnecessary antibiotics. Sixty percent of antibiotics are unnecessary.
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How many times have we heard the dogma it won't help,
but it probably it probably won't help it won't hurt you, No,
they are it's carpet.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Bombing your microbiome.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
And avoid unnecessary c sections that changes the microbiome. It's
important to breastfeed. That's politically incorrect to say. Now, of
course some women cannot they're physically unable to, but that
alters the microbiome. So all of these important topics we
don't talk about, but these are the central issues in health,
and they've been in a giant blind spot of modern medicine.
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And yet the research is overwhelming. Kids that take antibiotics
in the first couple of years of life, compared to
kids who don't have a different microbiome, they have higher
rates of obese. Just ask farmers who for decades have
given antibiotics to animals in order to make them more obese,
and new research is also showing that antibiotics in childhood
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increases the risk of attention deficit disorder, asthma and siliac.
So I go through all this research, but these are
important things for people to know about.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know, I've never heard the thing about c sections before.
And you are really pressured into choosing when you're going
to give birth these days. I mean they even in
the hospitals, they are kind of like, these are the
options for sea sections. And it was interesting because I was.
I just looked back and think I was so fortunate
to have a doctor who was with me on I
didn't want to have a C section and I had.
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My last pregnancy was twins, and I will tell you
it's so you are so pushed into it that. I mean,
this was eleven years ago, a lot of people were
having twins. And I went into the hospital, my staff,
my nursing staff for the day, I was. I went
into labor right at shift chain and they said, do
you mind if we stay. We've never seen a mother
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of twins give birth naturally. I mean that's how pressured
women are. Just quick, get it done, have the sea
section all be easy?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, we have these nudges in medicine.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
If you tell a woman in labor anywhere in the
world that a sea section might be safer for the baby,
even though it's it's that may not be the good
recommendation of the correct recommendation at the time, of course,
one hundred percent of women and we'll say we'll just
do it immediately. It's almost manipulative how these nudges are used.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Sometimes.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Now, sea sections save lives, they're necessary ten to twenty
percent of all deliveries, but they're also massively overused. Forty
percent are unnecessary. And where does the microbiome come from?
That lining of the gut that's of bacteria that's involved
in digestion and trains the immune system and produces serotonin. Well,
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when you're in utero a baby and the mother is sterile,
there's no bacteri in the gut. The microbiome is formed
from the baby passing through the birth canal, and those
bacteria seed the baby's microbiome. But when you're born by
c section, a steril baby is extracted from a sterile
operative field, and what may seed that baby's microbiome are
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the bacteria that live in the hospital and so the
microbiomes are very different. And an amazing study that I
cite in the book just came out associating the rise
in colon cancer that we're seeing in young people.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You've heard of that.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It found an association between colon cancer and young people
and having been born by sea section, suggesting there is
a gut mechanism on there. Yes, and the cancers that
are going up so fast are the GI cancers, and
that suggests we're altering the microbiome in ways we don't appreciate.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Now. People love probiotics.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
The problem is we don't know which ones work and
which ones just have good marketing. But eating whole foods
can help restore the microbiome.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's interesting because you talk about pancreatic cancer. Both my
paternal grandmother and my father just two years ago he
died of pancreatic cancer. She died in the nineteen nineties
and then he died just two years ago of pancreatic cancer.
And it was interesting. When she was sick with pancreatic cancer,
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the doctor said to her she used to drink Coca
cola every day and eat oreos, and he said, I
think that's what ended up hurting you, and you would
never hear that today. They would never come out and
say that today. And who knows if he was right
or not, but he was definitely saying there was a
connection to what was passing through your guy on a
daily basis and what you were eating. They connected to
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this pancretic cancer. But it is terrifying to me when
I see my grandmother, my father, I've had breast cancer.
What is happening nobody in our family? I've had cancer
before that. Now we're seeing this, these cancers rise. I
was thirty eight when I had cancer. You know my
dad died at seventy one. How can this be?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
One in eight women will develop will develop breast cancer
in their lifetime. One in five will have an autoimmune disease.
These are conditions you rarely heard about. They were rare
before the modern era, and it may be the cumulative
burden of all of these exposures. Red dye number forty,
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yellow dye number nine. They're banned in most countries. That's
why Kellogg's makes two versions of fruit loops, one for
the United States with all these band ingredients and chemicals
that are not allowed in Canada and Europe, and another
version for Canada and Europe. So it's important to recognize
that you don't have to conform to the modern ultra
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process poisoned diet. You don't have to give your kid
a phone to watch movies and videos in their childhood
and development. You don't have to give your child a
smartphone when they turned ten, eleven, or twelve. These are
societal norms that were comes from big tech and the
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blind spots of a ruling class that have said, you
know what, don't question why we have a food supply
that was really designed for food insecurity, It was not
designed for health.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And you know, I've got.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
A sister who raised her kids with no screen time
until they were seven. They had a family movie about
once every six months, a slow, boring movie, not rapid images.
I think they watched Mister Rogers. And she's never given
them a smartphone. They're going to get a flip phone
where they can only call their parents or nine to
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one to one. And they're not raised on any added sugar,
and the first added sugar they got was at age nine.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
They had a have an organic diet.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Ninety percent of what they eat is organic, and they
eat whole foods and they try.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
To avoid processed foods.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Now, it was hard all the birthdays growing up, but
she found foods they like and she was able to
make it cool for them.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And guess what.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
These kids are not impulsive, they're not on meds, they're
not diagnosed with fifty psychiatric disorders. They have a human connection.
They can look at you and shake your hand, and
these kids are going to do well. So you don't
have to do what everyone's telling you you have to do.
Sometimes in our modern world, I think there's a dogma that, oh,
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all things in moderation are okay. Well, why do we
say that about all this processed added sugar? Would we
say that about cocaine? Would we say, oh, cocaine's okay
in moderation for children? Now, we recognize these are highly
addictive substances and you don't have to introduce them. The
worst behavior you will see in children is when you
give them added sugar and then tell them they have
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to stop on their own self discipline.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, so that's I think as parents, we kind of
have trusted that the FDA is watching out for this,
that the FDA is watching out for these red dyes
and yellow and blue and all of these things that
are banned in other countries but they're allowed here. We've
trusted that they were watching it. And I think kind
of this movement that you and the MEANS and the
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RFK have come out and started saying, Hey, you actually
aren't being protected. You have to do some protection on
your own. And we haven't. We've been very trusting as Americans.
I think we are generally pretty spoiled and very trusting,
and so we've always said, oh, we're good, We're good.
But now you're finding forever chemicals in bloodstreams, and you're
finding all of these chemicals that are in our food
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that are banned in other countries. That to me is shocking. Also,
we hear things like almond milk and oat milk and
we are told that's healthy. We're told eggs are bad
for us. Regular milk is bad for us. Milk coming
from a nut is good for us. How do you
even get milk out of a nut? You know, you
don't think about it, but then when you think about it,
you're like, that sounds crazy, it's got to be horrible.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, Look, there's a lot of dogma out there, and
a bunch of us are going directly to the public.
The medical establishment is not going to fix healthcare, just
like big tech is not going to fix screened addiction
and other problems that big tech introduced.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So a group of US doctors are going directly to
the public.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I was just talking to Calli Means yesterday and I
was excited to tell him his book with Casey is
number one on the Amazon bestseller list. In my book,
which came out yesterday is number two. So I was saying,
you know, this is a good time.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We all have we have different angles on the problem
to educate people, but the healthcare field is not going
to fix itself.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So a bunch of us have.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Decided to go directly to the public and educate them
about how you prevent peanut allergies. The health benefits of
hormone replacement therapy at menopause one of the most miraculous
things in modern medicine, an intervention that has improved the
health outcomes of a population, maybe more than any other,
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second to antibiotics. So there are really important things about
health that everyone needs to know about. Dogma has done
tremendous damage a dogma that hormone replacement therapy for menopausal
women causes breast cancer was never supported by the data.
Yet nine eighty to ninety percent of doctors.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Still believe that.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They still refuse to prescribe it, and fifty million women,
including my mom, have been denied this amazing therapy where
women live three and a half years longer, have half
the rate of heart attacks, cognitive decline goes down by
sixty percent, the rate of Alzheimer's goes down by thirty
five percent. If the woman falls, they're less likely to
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break a bone.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They're stronger.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
This incredible therapy has been denied because an NIH scientist
twenty two years ago said it causes breast cancer.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We got that wrong. We still get it wrong for now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Twenty two years in running, we said opioids were non
addictive for thirty years, igniting the opioid epidemic. We said
parents should avoid peanut butter for kids zero through three
years of age, igniting the modern day peanut allergae epidemic.
It doesn't exist in other countries. I've got a piece
in this Saturday's Wall Street Journal on how we got
the modern day peanut algae epidemic. It's an excerpt from
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the book Blind spots, but this is a man made epidemic.
Peanut allergies are real. We shouldn't mock them, but they
don't exist in other countries because we promoted peanut abstinence
that created this immune sensitivity in our children.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So when we have a.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Small group of leaders sort of shoot from the hip
and rule by opinion and issue these edicts, we don't
have a very good track record.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, I think this is the time, though, for the
American people to push back and movements like yours that
are allowing people to actually see that there is some
nefair actors back there, or maybe even not. I mean,
I believe there are nefarious and I believe there are
kind of useful idiots in the situation too that just
are following the crowd. But regardless, it's our health. We
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wouldn't allow our car to operate this way, we wouldn't
keep putting gas in that's bad once we knew it
wasn't good anymore. Why are we doing this to our bodies?
And I think it's just because we haven't really understood it.
And I mean, you talk about the opioid epidemic. Now
we're seeing kids that are on riddlin, But kids that
are on adderall and adderall. I mean, gosh, just like
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you're putting speed into a child. It just blows my
mind that we have these medications out there. The Big
Pharma has the control that they do. The parents keep
going back, and that we are told to keep going back,
and oftentimes if you don't, you end up with somebody
at your door saying you're abusing your child. I mean,
it's gotten to the point where it is so bizarre
the control government has over making sure Big Pharma is successful.
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But I know you got to go. So I want
to talk about the book. I want people to know
where to get the book because if you've listened to
this and you've been like, man, okay this, I recognize
some of this. I recognize my own life in this.
Go get the book because that's going to tell you
a lot about how to get out of this bad
cycle and how to move forward with a good health
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program going forward. It's called blind Spots when medicine gets
it wrong and what it means for our health. Where
can they get it?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So, thanks so much, Tutor.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It's available wherever books are sold.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I learned so much doing the research for this book
and when I would share it with my colleagues at
Johns Hopkins Smart doctors. They were like, wow, that's a
real study that exists. I didn't know about that, so
if they were blown away by it and they thought
it was critically important to so many aspects of health
today in the public, I thought, this is a good
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opportunity to educate both the medical community and the public alike.
By talking not just about sickness and drugs and medications
and operations, but about the root causes, people can learn
and take control of their own health and live better, longer,
and happier. So I hope the storytelling in it makes
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the health tips memorable, like the backstory of how hormone
therapy got demonised to cause breast cancer, which was never true.
So I hope people enjoy reading it as much as
I enjoyed writing it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Wonderful Well, definitely go get it. Thank you, doctor Marty McCay,
thank you for being here. And I will just say
my experience with Johns Hopkins again was just like what
you said. I know, they were constantly learning, even doctors
who had been there for years, constantly learning. And my
surgeon actually called me the night before my surgery, and
he was like, Hey, what are the chances that you
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want to be my astronaut? And I was like, this
is eight o'clock before my surgery. What exactly are you
telling me? And he said, I was just at Mayo
Clinic and there's a new option. It's going to be
much better for you. You're going to be able to
move easier. You have four little kids. I want you
to think about it. And we did this together. I said, yes,
we're going to do this. We did it together. He
still to this day follows up with me, and I
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just there's no better judge of a doctor than someone
who cares enough to talk through with you what you're
gonna do and then follows up with you years afterward.
I think that you come from an amazing program and
I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Thank you, Tutor, And I'll have to let him know
how grateful you are and how good your experience was
when I see him.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
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blessed day,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am so excited
today we have doctor Marty McCarey. He's a professor at
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and the author of
blind Spots, When Medicine Gets It Wrong and what it
means for our health. Doctor McCarey, thank you for so
much for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Great to be with you. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So I just have to first point out that I
am also a McCarey, and that's part of the reason
that I am so excited about having you on. I
grew up as a McCarey, so that's my maiden name.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Cool, awesome, it's always good to reconnect with the McCarey
in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yes, there's not that many, so it is kind of fun.
But I also, as I mentioned, I also was a
patient of Johns Hopkins University. I went through breast cancer
there and my experience. I went to multiple different hospitals
before I found the doctors at Johns Hopkins. They were
so amazing. The care I got was so incredible. In fact,
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after three years after my surgery for breast cancer, the
doctor called me back and said, I have a woman
who is just a little younger than you were when
you had cancer, and she's very scared. Would you talk
her through this? And I thought the number of people
that he sees that he would remember my case and
think about calling me. That's truly someone who cares.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, Look, we talk about cases all the time. Everybody's different,
and so that's kind of the best part about being
a doctor is actually the collegiality. So we're always talking
about patients, what we could do differently, and so, well,
I'm glad to hear you had a good experience.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, it was incredible, and I've followed you since then.
When you came out on the scene, I actually talked
to my doctors about you and I was like, this
is incredible. I'm so excited to see someone who is
not afraid to speak out. And you've been speaking out
about I guess I would say big medicine and just
what's happening and kind of this degradation of our health
(01:59):
over time. And I've seen this with young kids. It's
something you've talked a lot about, and it's something that
I haven't been able to graciously put into words. But
as I've seen my girls go through school, I've seen this,
I would say an epidemic of obesity, and I keep saying,
it's not like we're eating that differently. There's something else
going wrong, and I feel like you would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
First of all, thank you for the kind words. I
don't think doctor Fauci is going to send me a
Christmas card this year, but I'm glad I did speak out.
You know, COVID was a little peek into a broader
medical establishment where a small group of doctors at the
top increasingly have the power. We have sort of central
planners now, if you will, in medicine, and the group
(02:44):
think is powerful and they sometimes shut out different opinions.
But if you look at the track record of American
healthcare over the last fifty years, we're good at taking
care of emergencies, but we have failed in making the
population healthier. About half of kids now are overweight or obese.
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Is it that kids are more lazy or disobedient than
kids in Japan, where that rate is three percent? Or
have we poisoned the food supply? Have we given people
the wrong information about what's healthy and what's not healthy.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We have a.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Chronic disease epidemic. A pediatrician may have rarely seen a
case of type two diabetes just one generation ago. Now
it's one in three children will go on to have
type two diabetes. We are seeing epidemic rates of autism
and cancer. Autism goes up fourteen percent every year for
the last twenty three consecutive years. In my field of
(03:43):
pancreatic cancer, rates have doubled in twenty years. What's going on?
Who's asking the big questions? And we have this healthcare
system so focused on billing and coding, and we've done
a terrible thing to doctors. We give them these short
visits and we measure them by through We've not given
them the time or resources to actually ask the big questions.
(04:05):
Maybe we shouldn't be medicating everybody. Maybe we need to
talk about the root causes. Maybe we need to talk
about school lunch programs, not just putting every kid on ozempic.
Maybe we need to talk about talk about sleep quality,
not just putting everyone on anti hypertensions when their blood
pressure goes up. So we've got to ask these big questions.
(04:26):
Our current medical leaders have failed us, and so many
of us now are going.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Directly to the public.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And that's why I wrote this book blind spots.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I think that's been one of the biggest shocks is
to see that kids are going on ozempic. I was
at the doctor's office with my eleven year olds the
other day for their well visit, and at their well
visit they get their cholesterol checked and the doctor came
back in and said their cholesterol was normal level. And
I said, I mean, how often are you seeing eleven
year olds with bad cholesterol? And it was her face
(04:57):
completely changed. She said, I have kids that come in
here that are over five hundred and I was like,
mind blown, how can that be.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, look, we've had these issues that we've ignored, and
it turns out what's going on. Increasingly as new research
comes out, what we're increasingly discovering is that we've introduced
so many chemicals and ultraprocessed foods into our diet. It's
not only changing the microbiome the lining of the GI tract,
(05:26):
but the body is reacting to these chemicals that do
not appear in nature. There's an inflammatory response. There's an
immune system in the gastro intestinal tract, and so it's
not an acute inflammatory response. It's a low grade chronic
inflammatory response. A chronic inflammation that makes people feel sick,
and we've just been medicating these folks. There's been a
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lot of powerful group think in medicine. If you look
at our track record, we've ignored the food supply. We've
ignored the role of pesticides. If these pesticides are killing pests,
think they're doing to the bacteria in our gut. We've
allowed big pharma, big food, and big egg to control
the narrative. And so we've got to start talking about health.
And there's a lot of things that everyday folks should
(06:11):
know about what they can do differently in their day
to day choices.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It's really hard as a parent because you hear this
and you think, I don't want to be told this.
I just don't want to hear that what I'm doing
is poisoning my kids because ultimately the food that goes
into their hands, I'm choosing for them. So how do
I choose the right thing? And is it already too
late when you say this about their gut? And I
heard you talking about antibiotics and how that can affect
their guts before three years old and make major changes
(06:39):
even to their serotonin levels. And I think about depression
and anxiety and all the things that we see in
kids today that is different than we saw when I
was growing up. And I think, as a parent, gosh,
it's hard for me because I feel like I've done this.
So first, how do I choose? How do I make
good choices for my kids? And second if they have
(06:59):
had something go awry? Is there a way to readjust
your gut?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So there's a couple important principles that I go through
in blind spots. In summary, you want to avoid pesticides
on fruits and vegetables where you eat the surface. Now,
if you're eating a watermelon, it may not matter nearly
as much, but when you're eating the surface, consider a strawberry.
A strawberry has been sprayed with on average seven point
eight different pesticides over a dozen times. Is that strawberry
(07:29):
healthy only if it's organic. You want to avoid cooking
with these so called seed oils, the canola oil, vegetable oil,
soybean oil. They're not healthy. They sound healthy, but they
are not healthy. They're denatured by heating them up to
high levels. They are then changed with a chemical solvent,
(07:49):
and this is a very cheap way of making an oil,
and that's why we have it because the government ironically
subsidizes these substances. Want to avoid those and cook with
natural oils, avocado oil, coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil.
So avoid unnecessary antibiotics. Sixty percent of antibiotics are unnecessary.
(08:16):
How many times have we heard the dogma it won't help,
but it probably it probably won't help it won't hurt you, No,
they are it's carpet.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Bombing your microbiome.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
And avoid unnecessary c sections that changes the microbiome. It's
important to breastfeed. That's politically incorrect to say. Now, of
course some women cannot they're physically unable to, but that
alters the microbiome. So all of these important topics we
don't talk about, but these are the central issues in health,
and they've been in a giant blind spot of modern medicine.
(08:49):
And yet the research is overwhelming. Kids that take antibiotics
in the first couple of years of life, compared to
kids who don't have a different microbiome, they have higher
rates of obese. Just ask farmers who for decades have
given antibiotics to animals in order to make them more obese,
and new research is also showing that antibiotics in childhood
(09:10):
increases the risk of attention deficit disorder, asthma and siliac.
So I go through all this research, but these are
important things for people to know about.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know, I've never heard the thing about c sections before.
And you are really pressured into choosing when you're going
to give birth these days. I mean they even in
the hospitals, they are kind of like, these are the
options for sea sections. And it was interesting because I was.
I just looked back and think I was so fortunate
to have a doctor who was with me on I
didn't want to have a C section and I had.
(09:42):
My last pregnancy was twins, and I will tell you
it's so you are so pushed into it that. I mean,
this was eleven years ago, a lot of people were
having twins. And I went into the hospital, my staff,
my nursing staff for the day, I was. I went
into labor right at shift chain and they said, do
you mind if we stay. We've never seen a mother
(10:03):
of twins give birth naturally. I mean that's how pressured
women are. Just quick, get it done, have the sea
section all be easy?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, we have these nudges in medicine.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
If you tell a woman in labor anywhere in the
world that a sea section might be safer for the baby,
even though it's it's that may not be the good
recommendation of the correct recommendation at the time, of course,
one hundred percent of women and we'll say we'll just
do it immediately. It's almost manipulative how these nudges are used.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Sometimes.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Now, sea sections save lives, they're necessary ten to twenty
percent of all deliveries, but they're also massively overused. Forty
percent are unnecessary. And where does the microbiome come from?
That lining of the gut that's of bacteria that's involved
in digestion and trains the immune system and produces serotonin. Well,
(10:54):
when you're in utero a baby and the mother is sterile,
there's no bacteri in the gut. The microbiome is formed
from the baby passing through the birth canal, and those
bacteria seed the baby's microbiome. But when you're born by
c section, a steril baby is extracted from a sterile
operative field, and what may seed that baby's microbiome are
(11:17):
the bacteria that live in the hospital and so the
microbiomes are very different. And an amazing study that I
cite in the book just came out associating the rise
in colon cancer that we're seeing in young people.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You've heard of that.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It found an association between colon cancer and young people
and having been born by sea section, suggesting there is
a gut mechanism on there. Yes, and the cancers that
are going up so fast are the GI cancers, and
that suggests we're altering the microbiome in ways we don't appreciate.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Now. People love probiotics.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
The problem is we don't know which ones work and
which ones just have good marketing. But eating whole foods
can help restore the microbiome.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's interesting because you talk about pancreatic cancer. Both my
paternal grandmother and my father just two years ago he
died of pancreatic cancer. She died in the nineteen nineties
and then he died just two years ago of pancreatic cancer.
And it was interesting. When she was sick with pancreatic cancer,
(12:22):
the doctor said to her she used to drink Coca
cola every day and eat oreos, and he said, I
think that's what ended up hurting you, and you would
never hear that today. They would never come out and
say that today. And who knows if he was right
or not, but he was definitely saying there was a
connection to what was passing through your guy on a
daily basis and what you were eating. They connected to
(12:45):
this pancretic cancer. But it is terrifying to me when
I see my grandmother, my father, I've had breast cancer.
What is happening nobody in our family? I've had cancer
before that. Now we're seeing this, these cancers rise. I
was thirty eight when I had cancer. You know my
dad died at seventy one. How can this be?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
One in eight women will develop will develop breast cancer
in their lifetime. One in five will have an autoimmune disease.
These are conditions you rarely heard about. They were rare
before the modern era, and it may be the cumulative
burden of all of these exposures. Red dye number forty,
(13:28):
yellow dye number nine. They're banned in most countries. That's
why Kellogg's makes two versions of fruit loops, one for
the United States with all these band ingredients and chemicals
that are not allowed in Canada and Europe, and another
version for Canada and Europe. So it's important to recognize
that you don't have to conform to the modern ultra
(13:52):
process poisoned diet. You don't have to give your kid
a phone to watch movies and videos in their childhood
and development. You don't have to give your child a
smartphone when they turned ten, eleven, or twelve. These are
societal norms that were comes from big tech and the
(14:14):
blind spots of a ruling class that have said, you
know what, don't question why we have a food supply
that was really designed for food insecurity, It was not
designed for health.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
And you know, I've got.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
A sister who raised her kids with no screen time
until they were seven. They had a family movie about
once every six months, a slow, boring movie, not rapid images.
I think they watched Mister Rogers. And she's never given
them a smartphone. They're going to get a flip phone
where they can only call their parents or nine to
(14:47):
one to one. And they're not raised on any added sugar,
and the first added sugar they got was at age nine.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
They had a have an organic diet.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Ninety percent of what they eat is organic, and they
eat whole foods and they try.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
To avoid processed foods.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Now, it was hard all the birthdays growing up, but
she found foods they like and she was able to
make it cool for them.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And guess what.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
These kids are not impulsive, they're not on meds, they're
not diagnosed with fifty psychiatric disorders. They have a human connection.
They can look at you and shake your hand, and
these kids are going to do well. So you don't
have to do what everyone's telling you you have to do.
Sometimes in our modern world, I think there's a dogma that, oh,
(15:32):
all things in moderation are okay. Well, why do we
say that about all this processed added sugar? Would we
say that about cocaine? Would we say, oh, cocaine's okay
in moderation for children? Now, we recognize these are highly
addictive substances and you don't have to introduce them. The
worst behavior you will see in children is when you
give them added sugar and then tell them they have
(15:54):
to stop on their own self discipline.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, so that's I think as parents, we kind of
have trusted that the FDA is watching out for this,
that the FDA is watching out for these red dyes
and yellow and blue and all of these things that
are banned in other countries but they're allowed here. We've
trusted that they were watching it. And I think kind
of this movement that you and the MEANS and the
(16:17):
RFK have come out and started saying, Hey, you actually
aren't being protected. You have to do some protection on
your own. And we haven't. We've been very trusting as Americans.
I think we are generally pretty spoiled and very trusting,
and so we've always said, oh, we're good, We're good.
But now you're finding forever chemicals in bloodstreams, and you're
finding all of these chemicals that are in our food
(16:40):
that are banned in other countries. That to me is shocking. Also,
we hear things like almond milk and oat milk and
we are told that's healthy. We're told eggs are bad
for us. Regular milk is bad for us. Milk coming
from a nut is good for us. How do you
even get milk out of a nut? You know, you
don't think about it, but then when you think about it,
you're like, that sounds crazy, it's got to be horrible.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, Look, there's a lot of dogma out there, and
a bunch of us are going directly to the public.
The medical establishment is not going to fix healthcare, just
like big tech is not going to fix screened addiction
and other problems that big tech introduced.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So a group of US doctors are going directly to
the public.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I was just talking to Calli Means yesterday and I
was excited to tell him his book with Casey is
number one on the Amazon bestseller list. In my book,
which came out yesterday is number two. So I was saying,
you know, this is a good time.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We all have we have different angles on the problem
to educate people, but the healthcare field is not going
to fix itself.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So a bunch of us have.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Decided to go directly to the public and educate them
about how you prevent peanut allergies. The health benefits of
hormone replacement therapy at menopause one of the most miraculous
things in modern medicine, an intervention that has improved the
health outcomes of a population, maybe more than any other,
(18:09):
second to antibiotics. So there are really important things about
health that everyone needs to know about. Dogma has done
tremendous damage a dogma that hormone replacement therapy for menopausal
women causes breast cancer was never supported by the data.
Yet nine eighty to ninety percent of doctors.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Still believe that.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
They still refuse to prescribe it, and fifty million women,
including my mom, have been denied this amazing therapy where
women live three and a half years longer, have half
the rate of heart attacks, cognitive decline goes down by
sixty percent, the rate of Alzheimer's goes down by thirty
five percent. If the woman falls, they're less likely to
(18:52):
break a bone.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
They're stronger.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
This incredible therapy has been denied because an NIH scientist
twenty two years ago said it causes breast cancer.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We got that wrong. We still get it wrong for now.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Twenty two years in running, we said opioids were non
addictive for thirty years, igniting the opioid epidemic. We said
parents should avoid peanut butter for kids zero through three
years of age, igniting the modern day peanut allergae epidemic.
It doesn't exist in other countries. I've got a piece
in this Saturday's Wall Street Journal on how we got
the modern day peanut algae epidemic. It's an excerpt from
(19:25):
the book Blind spots, but this is a man made epidemic.
Peanut allergies are real. We shouldn't mock them, but they
don't exist in other countries because we promoted peanut abstinence
that created this immune sensitivity in our children.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So when we have a.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Small group of leaders sort of shoot from the hip
and rule by opinion and issue these edicts, we don't
have a very good track record.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, I think this is the time, though, for the
American people to push back and movements like yours that
are allowing people to actually see that there is some
nefair actors back there, or maybe even not. I mean,
I believe there are nefarious and I believe there are
kind of useful idiots in the situation too that just
are following the crowd. But regardless, it's our health. We
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wouldn't allow our car to operate this way, we wouldn't
keep putting gas in that's bad once we knew it
wasn't good anymore. Why are we doing this to our bodies?
And I think it's just because we haven't really understood it.
And I mean, you talk about the opioid epidemic. Now
we're seeing kids that are on riddlin, But kids that
are on adderall and adderall. I mean, gosh, just like
(20:33):
you're putting speed into a child. It just blows my
mind that we have these medications out there. The Big
Pharma has the control that they do. The parents keep
going back, and that we are told to keep going back,
and oftentimes if you don't, you end up with somebody
at your door saying you're abusing your child. I mean,
it's gotten to the point where it is so bizarre
the control government has over making sure Big Pharma is successful.
(20:56):
But I know you got to go. So I want
to talk about the book. I want people to know
where to get the book because if you've listened to
this and you've been like, man, okay this, I recognize
some of this. I recognize my own life in this.
Go get the book because that's going to tell you
a lot about how to get out of this bad
cycle and how to move forward with a good health
(21:16):
program going forward. It's called blind Spots when medicine gets
it wrong and what it means for our health. Where
can they get it?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So, thanks so much, Tutor.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
It's available wherever books are sold.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I learned so much doing the research for this book
and when I would share it with my colleagues at
Johns Hopkins Smart doctors. They were like, wow, that's a
real study that exists. I didn't know about that, so
if they were blown away by it and they thought
it was critically important to so many aspects of health
today in the public, I thought, this is a good
(21:48):
opportunity to educate both the medical community and the public alike.
By talking not just about sickness and drugs and medications
and operations, but about the root causes, people can learn
and take control of their own health and live better, longer,
and happier. So I hope the storytelling in it makes
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the health tips memorable, like the backstory of how hormone
therapy got demonised to cause breast cancer, which was never true.
So I hope people enjoy reading it as much as
I enjoyed writing it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Wonderful Well, definitely go get it. Thank you, doctor Marty McCay,
thank you for being here. And I will just say
my experience with Johns Hopkins again was just like what
you said. I know, they were constantly learning, even doctors
who had been there for years, constantly learning. And my
surgeon actually called me the night before my surgery, and
he was like, Hey, what are the chances that you
(22:41):
want to be my astronaut? And I was like, this
is eight o'clock before my surgery. What exactly are you
telling me? And he said, I was just at Mayo
Clinic and there's a new option. It's going to be
much better for you. You're going to be able to
move easier. You have four little kids. I want you
to think about it. And we did this together. I said, yes,
we're going to do this. We did it together. He
still to this day follows up with me, and I
(23:04):
just there's no better judge of a doctor than someone
who cares enough to talk through with you what you're
gonna do and then follows up with you years afterward.
I think that you come from an amazing program and
I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Thank you, Tutor, And I'll have to let him know
how grateful you are and how good your experience was
when I see him.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Absolutely, And thank you all for listening to the Tutor
Dixon Podcasts. For this episode and others. Go to Tutor
dixonpodcast dot com, iHeartRadio or Apple Podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts, and join us next time. Have a
blessed day,
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