June 21, 2025 • 15 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Jamie Lee Lardner delve into the latest Hollywood gossip, legal battles involving celebrities like Taylor Swift and Blake Lively, the shift from traditional movie production to streaming services, and the mental health challenges faced by stars like Justin Bieber. They also discuss the ongoing conversation surrounding Britney Spears and the recent Karen Read trial, exploring public perceptions and the complexities of celebrity life. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We decided that we were going to bring Jamie Lee
Lardner back.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
She's going to talk to us about.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All things Hollywood because sometimes you just need a break
and you want to kind of gossip a little.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right, Jamie, just a little.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So we had talked about Blake Lively the last time
I wanted to ask you, because this whole story about
Taylor Swift getting pulled into this situation came out, but
then that kind of died off. We didn't really hear
much about it, and then recently Ryan Reynolds made a comment,
but where did Taylor Swift go?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay, So, as we remember, Taylor really just came off
the Era's tour and that was an epically long tour.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So honestly, she's just recouping. And as far as.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
The Blake Lively of it all, she's been in the
mix and muddying the water pretty much the whole time,
depending on which side finds her useful in a given moment.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
But it starts to feel like she's being used for
a headline.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
M yes, yes, So what is the full story now
on the Blake Lively debacle?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So the latest is basically, speaking of Taylor Swift, it
sounds like her messages are going to be admissible.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And what Blake had.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Been trying to argue was attorney's eyes only, and Baldoni
got a win and when they said all communications between
Swift and Lively are to be submitted, So.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
It was a win for Baldoni on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So she's suing him.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I thought he had a suit against her, and then
that was dropped. So where does that all the legal
battle stand between the two of them. And this is
about that movie. It ends with us, and she was
accusing him of sexual harassment, and then he was accusing
her of defamation.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So give us a little update on where they stand.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So the New York Times won, and he was doing
the New York Times, so the New York Times was
able to prove that they did not defame him. But
now he's defending himself against her civil rights complaint and
the sexual harassment claims, so it's still messy.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Mm.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
This is so not good.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So in the midst of this, now we're hearing people
saying the production has been down in LA and there's
obviously we're also watching a political issue in LA. And
I think because every time the cameras kind of turn
on Los Angeles for any type of political activity, there
seems to be a conversation about their biggest industry, which
(02:29):
is the movies, and there were seeing a lot of
what was happening in La moving out to Georgia and
other states. There's kind of a question as to what
happens next because the President has said he doesn't want
to see Hollywood making movies in other countries. He wants
movies made in the United States. However, people in Hollywood
(02:49):
are saying it's too expensive to stay in Hollywood because
it used to be easy to make movies there. Now
we're looking for other places. You would think that it
would be less expensive because of all the sets.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So there's a lot to unpack there. So I'll just
start with the sets first.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yes, Hollywood is famous for its soundstages, and the business
of Hollywood is very much localized in Los Angeles. Your executives,
your producers, your talent agents, your lawyers. They're still pretty
local to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
But when you talk.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Production, a lot of scripts are location based. So yes,
in effect, Atlanta has great tax credits, so it's attractive
to shoot there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That's really going to be your.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Television shows though, because television shows, if they're shooting on location,
need that consistent availability to location. When we move to
movie sets, Game of Thrones could only be shot in
Wales and Croatia. You're just not going to get those landscapes.
So give all the tax credits you want. The film's
going to be set where it's going to be set.
(03:53):
The story has to be told where it's told. So
I don't really see even free.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Tax incentives, right, no taxes at all. It's not going
to change. If the story's set in Beijing, we need
to shoot in Beijing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Do you think that there is though a push that
for things that used to be typical Hollywood films?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Are they moving out of Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, But again people aren't shooting on sound stages anymore,
Like that old Hollywood model was really based on the
sound stage, and we just don't shoot on stages anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
These are all location, location, location.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, right, exactly. There was a real downturn though in movies.
I mean, I think that we saw this in twenty
twenty when everything closed and there's been a downturn.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's more streaming.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And I've seen a lot of new like limited series
coming out on Netflix and things like that. I just
saw one called Sirens, and then everybody's like, you know,
will there be a sequel to this? And I'm just
kind of wondering, do you see that Hollywood is going
more at the streaming route and no longer into the theaters.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So Hollywood is in the business of data right, and
consumer behavior is leaning towards streaming. Me personally, I like
to stream versus going to a theater, so it makes
more sent from an economic model to cater to the
streaming audience, and then they get different budgets depending on
what streamer they're on, so that impacts their production value.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But people aren't going to movie theaters anymore. It's expensive.
You're with an outlier of a crowd, like you could
have a talker ruining the movie the whole time.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
You want to hit the pause button and go get
your own snacks, not be behold into stale popcorn at
thirteen dollars a bucket. It makes more sense to cater
to the streaming market. And people are watching a lot
of content on their phones now, so short form content
is exploding.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Hmmm, So what's the buzz in Hollywood. Is there any
like true gossip going on these days?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I mean, there's always gossip. It's the skin of the week.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I would say right now though, people are really concerned
about Justin Bieber. He's when I've been talking to my
friends every and it's been like, you know, that poor guy,
he's got a lot going on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because so that we'll just expand on that a little bit.
There was a social media message that went out that
he shared his actual text messages with someone else, and
I thought this was kind of it was kind of
like a look into some of the things that we've
been told about the Hollywood world. And I think there's
also been some question about the whole situation with P
(06:34):
Diddy and his life, and he has referenced. Bieber has
referenced multiple times that he's got anger issues because of
the way he was treated in the past. And so
if we kind of journey through Justin Bieber's life for
a minute, he was obviously a very young Hollywood star
he or music star. He became a music star overnight.
(06:57):
It seemed like at a very young age, a lot
of money coming in at him. But there's been speculation, well,
how did that happen And was he a part of
maybe these freakout parties that Diddy was having And he
has said no, he came out and said he wasn't
a part of it. But then he seems to be
spiraling he is.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's I saw an article.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Today saying that people have known that his marriage was
over for a while. He went through a phase where
he became super religious and he was going to church
quite a bit, and during that time, I would say
that he seemed pretty healthy, and now he's stepped away
from that and he seems like he's he's very much
in an unhealthy situation.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So these text messages that he posted was.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
A guy who or it seems like it was a
guy who said to him. I guess it was because
he said, I don't need another guy telling me that
I'm lashing out, because they said, you know you're lashing out.
You've got anger issues, and he kind of excused it as, yeah,
I have anger issues.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This is because of my past. There's nothing you can
do about it. What's your take on that or what's
kind of the buzz on the street there?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
The bog on the street is actually a lot of
concern everyone I talk to is concerned. They don't want
to pull a Britney when they really were ruthless to
Britney Spears when she very clearly was having mental health issues.
So there's a lot more respect for what he's going through.
It is clear it's mental health related. As far as
(08:23):
the diddy of it all, people are speculating, But I
have a theory that it also has to relate to
new fatherhood.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
When people become parents.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It kicks up a lot of dust for how their
childhood was. And I'm sure he's looking back going a
bunch of things shouldn't have happened to me, and it
might make him angry. So and it certainly doesn't excuse
his behavior, but it definitely explains his behavior. And I honestly,
people who are lost will sometimes try to find like
(08:55):
a beacon of hope. So he did kind of get
into it with that pastor. I think it was the
Hillsong Church who seem to have gotten him on the
right path for a minute.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But at the end of the day, you need counseling.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He needs a good counselor to navigate these issues because
they're going to come up at different times.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I mean, it's such a hard situation because we've watched
him grow up, essentially, and we've watched some weird situations.
I mean, there's been people that have certainly shared the
clips of adults that treated him like an adult when
he wasn't an adult, and he's talked a little bit
about how that was uncomfortable. And I think that because
we're at this point where we've had some of this
(09:37):
information exposed about Hollywood, people are kind of looking to
him as well, well, you can expose it all, but
he's hurting, and I think that's hard for the public
to remember. And bringing up Brittany, I think it was
interesting because social media has taken over in such a
strange way, you know. I mean, I come from the
(09:58):
era of Whitney Houston, and I think Whitney Houston was
really struggling. Obviously she had a drug problem. We didn't
really see it though, you know, there wasn't a conversation
about it. There wasn't a lot of pressure on her.
And then you see that you have Britney Spears kind
of you're seeing I mean, like I said, we didn't
(10:18):
see what happened with Whitney Houston. But we were seeing
Britney spears. And still today we're seeing these strange videos
of her dancing and kind of melting down. But there
was this whole free Britney movement. Any're looking back on
the what did those people know about her life?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm firmly team free Brittany.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
She's harmless as far as she needs a conservatorship. I mean,
I think Kanye West does way more harm That man
needs a conservatorship. So if he's out on the streets,
Britney should be. Brittany was a slave to our childhoods
and was the backbone of our childhoods. She was the
soundtrack to us growing up. Let her go do her
(10:59):
dancing videos. She earned it, That's how I feel she
earned it. She doesn't have to entertain us anymore. She
wants to spin around in circles doing her little wiggles.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Go on.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Makes the latest person that has been doing these weird videos.
I can't remember why am I blanking on Alyssa Milano.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
She has been Have you seen this?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I saw one and I was like, oh, that's an
interesting choice.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean that was very weird.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And I think she is my age, and I don't
know if that is more of an attention thing, but
she was like really active. I think she was very
active on social media for a while, and then it
seems like after the election she kind of quieted down.
So I don't know, maybe this is her resurgence into
coming out and meeting fans where they are again.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know, I never know, but I do have like
a perspective on people who grew up scripted and doing
scripted TV shows very often have a tough time tran
relating to the nonscripted world that is social media. She's
used to playing a character that's written on a page
and bringing.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
That to life.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
She's not used to making an audience love her because
of her quick wit. So it's it's just a different
skill set. I think that's why a lot of actors
don't translate to social media.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
M that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
There's also in the I guess I would call it
kind of entertainment news. There's been some discussion that the
big network, I think what network is the view on
Sarah ABC ABC. So there's been some like behind the
scenes that ABC might be thinking that they're done with
the view or they're trying to push the view in
(12:40):
a different direction.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Have you heard any scuttle butt on that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, they have this discussion every few years, and
the view likes to be relevant and so like they're
always out to be honest with you. They're always saying
that is this our last season? We need new faces
to refresh it. We need to bring in a younger demo.
Like you know, I would be surprised if it ended,
because it is an ensemble cast.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
They can just put some new blood on. We'll see
Charlie Damelio on there before we know it. Who wants
use TikTok.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Star, Well, we'll see, We'll see what happens. I guess
that is the buzz on Hollywood. Is there anything else
that you want to hit on before we go?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
The Karen Reid trial was super interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, and I'm really what is your take on that?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Because people I saw people like harding it and loving
it and other people who were like.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Man, this woman just got away with something.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think it depends on where you get your information,
because there's pro Karen Reid and anti Karen Reid narratives
and once you like a video, algorithms auto.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Feed you more content.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Like that, so you can get down an echo chamber
very quickly.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So depending on where you get your information, which is
why I like to scatter mine.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Through multiple sources. I think justice was served. I don't
think she did it. I think she did drive drunk,
which she admitted several times. I don't think she killed
the guy. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So this is the woman who, just so people know,
this is the woman who was accused of killing her
boyfriend who was a police officer.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Then I saw something.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The other day where people were like, oh, this was
a cover up and it was buddies of his. But
I don't know the details there. But she was acquitted.
And this is the second trial, right.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, the first one they had not I guess a
hung jury or a mistrial. It was a mistrial and
so she had to go through it all over again. Interestingly,
one of the jurors joined her legal team.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I was like, I didn't even know that was possible.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But also, what is such a kind that's kind of
a shock.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Right, Like I didn't know that could be a thing.
And I was also like, if you're a juror, you
have access to so much information, you would be useful
on the defense.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Right, And you would think that you would think that that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I mean, I guess if you're a jury, you would
think that you would not have become a juror if
you had some sort of a legal background.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But you never know. I guess that's odd.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It is not for interest enough to know like the
ins and outs of how that could be. It's it
made me kind of give us like a side eye.
I was like, that's allowed. At the same time, you
do want intelligent.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Jurors, So yeah, I guess that is what it is.
But I thought that was so interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, thank you so much, thanks for coming on today,
Jamie Lee Lardner. I appreciate having you. Thanks Tutor, and
thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
Join us next time. Have a blessed day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We decided that we were going to bring Jamie Lee
Lardner back.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
She's going to talk to us about.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All things Hollywood because sometimes you just need a break
and you want to kind of gossip a little.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right, Jamie, just a little.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So we had talked about Blake Lively the last time
I wanted to ask you, because this whole story about
Taylor Swift getting pulled into this situation came out, but
then that kind of died off. We didn't really hear
much about it, and then recently Ryan Reynolds made a comment,
but where did Taylor Swift go?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay, So, as we remember, Taylor really just came off
the Era's tour and that was an epically long tour.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
So honestly, she's just recouping. And as far as.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
The Blake Lively of it all, she's been in the
mix and muddying the water pretty much the whole time,
depending on which side finds her useful in a given moment.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
But it starts to feel like she's being used for
a headline.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
M yes, yes, So what is the full story now
on the Blake Lively debacle?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So the latest is basically, speaking of Taylor Swift, it
sounds like her messages are going to be admissible.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And what Blake had.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Been trying to argue was attorney's eyes only, and Baldoni
got a win and when they said all communications between
Swift and Lively are to be submitted, So.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
It was a win for Baldoni on that one.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So she's suing him.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I thought he had a suit against her, and then
that was dropped. So where does that all the legal
battle stand between the two of them. And this is
about that movie. It ends with us, and she was
accusing him of sexual harassment, and then he was accusing
her of defamation.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So give us a little update on where they stand.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So the New York Times won, and he was doing
the New York Times, so the New York Times was
able to prove that they did not defame him. But
now he's defending himself against her civil rights complaint and
the sexual harassment claims, so it's still messy.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Mm.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
This is so not good.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So in the midst of this, now we're hearing people
saying the production has been down in LA and there's
obviously we're also watching a political issue in LA. And
I think because every time the cameras kind of turn
on Los Angeles for any type of political activity, there
seems to be a conversation about their biggest industry, which
(02:29):
is the movies, and there were seeing a lot of
what was happening in La moving out to Georgia and
other states. There's kind of a question as to what
happens next because the President has said he doesn't want
to see Hollywood making movies in other countries. He wants
movies made in the United States. However, people in Hollywood
(02:49):
are saying it's too expensive to stay in Hollywood because
it used to be easy to make movies there. Now
we're looking for other places. You would think that it
would be less expensive because of all the sets.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So there's a lot to unpack there. So I'll just
start with the sets first.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yes, Hollywood is famous for its soundstages, and the business
of Hollywood is very much localized in Los Angeles. Your executives,
your producers, your talent agents, your lawyers. They're still pretty
local to Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
But when you talk.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Production, a lot of scripts are location based. So yes,
in effect, Atlanta has great tax credits, so it's attractive
to shoot there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That's really going to be your.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Television shows though, because television shows, if they're shooting on location,
need that consistent availability to location. When we move to
movie sets, Game of Thrones could only be shot in
Wales and Croatia. You're just not going to get those landscapes.
So give all the tax credits you want. The film's
going to be set where it's going to be set.
(03:53):
The story has to be told where it's told. So
I don't really see even free.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Tax incentives, right, no taxes at all. It's not going
to change. If the story's set in Beijing, we need
to shoot in Beijing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Do you think that there is though a push that
for things that used to be typical Hollywood films?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Are they moving out of Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, But again people aren't shooting on sound stages anymore,
Like that old Hollywood model was really based on the
sound stage, and we just don't shoot on stages anymore.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
These are all location, location, location.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, right, exactly. There was a real downturn though in movies.
I mean, I think that we saw this in twenty
twenty when everything closed and there's been a downturn.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's more streaming.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And I've seen a lot of new like limited series
coming out on Netflix and things like that. I just
saw one called Sirens, and then everybody's like, you know,
will there be a sequel to this? And I'm just
kind of wondering, do you see that Hollywood is going
more at the streaming route and no longer into the theaters.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So Hollywood is in the business of data right, and
consumer behavior is leaning towards streaming. Me personally, I like
to stream versus going to a theater, so it makes
more sent from an economic model to cater to the
streaming audience, and then they get different budgets depending on
what streamer they're on, so that impacts their production value.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But people aren't going to movie theaters anymore. It's expensive.
You're with an outlier of a crowd, like you could
have a talker ruining the movie the whole time.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
You want to hit the pause button and go get
your own snacks, not be behold into stale popcorn at
thirteen dollars a bucket. It makes more sense to cater
to the streaming market. And people are watching a lot
of content on their phones now, so short form content
is exploding.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Hmmm, So what's the buzz in Hollywood. Is there any
like true gossip going on these days?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I mean, there's always gossip. It's the skin of the week.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I would say right now though, people are really concerned
about Justin Bieber. He's when I've been talking to my
friends every and it's been like, you know, that poor guy,
he's got a lot going on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Because so that we'll just expand on that a little bit.
There was a social media message that went out that
he shared his actual text messages with someone else, and
I thought this was kind of it was kind of
like a look into some of the things that we've
been told about the Hollywood world. And I think there's
also been some question about the whole situation with P
(06:34):
Diddy and his life, and he has referenced. Bieber has
referenced multiple times that he's got anger issues because of
the way he was treated in the past. And so
if we kind of journey through Justin Bieber's life for
a minute, he was obviously a very young Hollywood star
he or music star. He became a music star overnight.
(06:57):
It seemed like at a very young age, a lot
of money coming in at him. But there's been speculation, well,
how did that happen And was he a part of
maybe these freakout parties that Diddy was having And he
has said no, he came out and said he wasn't
a part of it. But then he seems to be
spiraling he is.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's I saw an article.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Today saying that people have known that his marriage was
over for a while. He went through a phase where
he became super religious and he was going to church
quite a bit, and during that time, I would say
that he seemed pretty healthy, and now he's stepped away
from that and he seems like he's he's very much
in an unhealthy situation.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So these text messages that he posted was.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
A guy who or it seems like it was a
guy who said to him. I guess it was because
he said, I don't need another guy telling me that
I'm lashing out, because they said, you know you're lashing out.
You've got anger issues, and he kind of excused it as, yeah,
I have anger issues.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
This is because of my past. There's nothing you can
do about it. What's your take on that or what's
kind of the buzz on the street there?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
The bog on the street is actually a lot of
concern everyone I talk to is concerned. They don't want
to pull a Britney when they really were ruthless to
Britney Spears when she very clearly was having mental health issues.
So there's a lot more respect for what he's going through.
It is clear it's mental health related. As far as
(08:23):
the diddy of it all, people are speculating, But I
have a theory that it also has to relate to
new fatherhood.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
When people become parents.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
It kicks up a lot of dust for how their
childhood was. And I'm sure he's looking back going a
bunch of things shouldn't have happened to me, and it
might make him angry. So and it certainly doesn't excuse
his behavior, but it definitely explains his behavior. And I honestly,
people who are lost will sometimes try to find like
(08:55):
a beacon of hope. So he did kind of get
into it with that pastor. I think it was the
Hillsong Church who seem to have gotten him on the
right path for a minute.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But at the end of the day, you need counseling.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
He needs a good counselor to navigate these issues because
they're going to come up at different times.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I mean, it's such a hard situation because we've watched
him grow up, essentially, and we've watched some weird situations.
I mean, there's been people that have certainly shared the
clips of adults that treated him like an adult when
he wasn't an adult, and he's talked a little bit
about how that was uncomfortable. And I think that because
we're at this point where we've had some of this
(09:37):
information exposed about Hollywood, people are kind of looking to
him as well, well, you can expose it all, but
he's hurting, and I think that's hard for the public
to remember. And bringing up Brittany, I think it was
interesting because social media has taken over in such a
strange way, you know. I mean, I come from the
(09:58):
era of Whitney Houston, and I think Whitney Houston was
really struggling. Obviously she had a drug problem. We didn't
really see it though, you know, there wasn't a conversation
about it. There wasn't a lot of pressure on her.
And then you see that you have Britney Spears kind
of you're seeing I mean, like I said, we didn't
(10:18):
see what happened with Whitney Houston. But we were seeing
Britney spears. And still today we're seeing these strange videos
of her dancing and kind of melting down. But there
was this whole free Britney movement. Any're looking back on
the what did those people know about her life?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
I'm firmly team free Brittany.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
She's harmless as far as she needs a conservatorship. I mean,
I think Kanye West does way more harm That man
needs a conservatorship. So if he's out on the streets,
Britney should be. Brittany was a slave to our childhoods
and was the backbone of our childhoods. She was the
soundtrack to us growing up. Let her go do her
(10:59):
dancing videos. She earned it, That's how I feel she
earned it. She doesn't have to entertain us anymore. She
wants to spin around in circles doing her little wiggles.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Go on.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Makes the latest person that has been doing these weird videos.
I can't remember why am I blanking on Alyssa Milano.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
She has been Have you seen this?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I saw one and I was like, oh, that's an
interesting choice.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean that was very weird.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And I think she is my age, and I don't
know if that is more of an attention thing, but
she was like really active. I think she was very
active on social media for a while, and then it
seems like after the election she kind of quieted down.
So I don't know, maybe this is her resurgence into
coming out and meeting fans where they are again.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know, I never know, but I do have like
a perspective on people who grew up scripted and doing
scripted TV shows very often have a tough time tran
relating to the nonscripted world that is social media. She's
used to playing a character that's written on a page
and bringing.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
That to life.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
She's not used to making an audience love her because
of her quick wit. So it's it's just a different
skill set. I think that's why a lot of actors
don't translate to social media.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
M that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
There's also in the I guess I would call it
kind of entertainment news. There's been some discussion that the
big network, I think what network is the view on
Sarah ABC ABC. So there's been some like behind the
scenes that ABC might be thinking that they're done with
the view or they're trying to push the view in
(12:40):
a different direction.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Have you heard any scuttle butt on that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, they have this discussion every few years, and
the view likes to be relevant and so like they're
always out to be honest with you. They're always saying
that is this our last season? We need new faces
to refresh it. We need to bring in a younger demo.
Like you know, I would be surprised if it ended,
because it is an ensemble cast.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
They can just put some new blood on. We'll see
Charlie Damelio on there before we know it. Who wants
use TikTok.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Star, Well, we'll see, We'll see what happens. I guess
that is the buzz on Hollywood. Is there anything else
that you want to hit on before we go?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
The Karen Reid trial was super interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, and I'm really what is your take on that?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Because people I saw people like harding it and loving
it and other people who were like.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Man, this woman just got away with something.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think it depends on where you get your information,
because there's pro Karen Reid and anti Karen Reid narratives
and once you like a video, algorithms auto.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Feed you more content.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Like that, so you can get down an echo chamber
very quickly.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So depending on where you get your information, which is
why I like to scatter mine.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Through multiple sources. I think justice was served. I don't
think she did it. I think she did drive drunk,
which she admitted several times. I don't think she killed
the guy. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So this is the woman who, just so people know,
this is the woman who was accused of killing her
boyfriend who was a police officer.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Then I saw something.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
The other day where people were like, oh, this was
a cover up and it was buddies of his. But
I don't know the details there. But she was acquitted.
And this is the second trial, right.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, the first one they had not I guess a
hung jury or a mistrial. It was a mistrial and
so she had to go through it all over again. Interestingly,
one of the jurors joined her legal team.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh really Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I was like, I didn't even know that was possible.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
But also, what is such a kind that's kind of
a shock.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Right, Like I didn't know that could be a thing.
And I was also like, if you're a juror, you
have access to so much information, you would be useful
on the defense.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Right, And you would think that you would think that that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I mean, I guess if you're a jury, you would
think that you would not have become a juror if
you had some sort of a legal background.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But you never know. I guess that's odd.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It is not for interest enough to know like the
ins and outs of how that could be. It's it
made me kind of give us like a side eye.
I was like, that's allowed. At the same time, you
do want intelligent.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Jurors, So yeah, I guess that is what it is.
But I thought that was so interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, thank you so much, thanks for coming on today,
Jamie Lee Lardner. I appreciate having you. Thanks Tutor, and
thank you all for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
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