June 6, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode, Tudor is joined by Hayley Caronia to discuss the shifting political landscape, particularly the trend of politicians declaring independence from the Democrat Party. They explore the implications of identity politics, the challenges faced by men within the party, and the future of American politics. The conversation also touches on the influence of figures like Elon Musk and the importance of food security in shaping public health and policy. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Hailey Karenia
with me today. She is the host of the Nightly
Scroll on weeknights at six pm with Silverlock, and I
am so excited to talk about all things.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
There's so much going on today in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We've now just recently found out that KJP is an independent.
Elon's throwing arrows or darts at the White House.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
There's just a lot happening. So, Haley, thank you for
joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Of course, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Absolutely so okay, So we just recently found out and
it's just such a joke. Karine Jean Pierre has now
come out as an independent. She's come out before. This
is the second coming out for her. She's now an independent.
So what do we think about this independence that she's
declaring after she was literally the voice of the dead
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for four years.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, she is not an independent.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
This is very convenient for her and other Democrats who
worked in the Biden administration and now their guy lost,
so now they're out of a job. Now they are
desperate to get into the good graces of the American
people again, so maybe they can work in this town again.
But they were tied to the Biden administration. They cringe,
j up.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Here was right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I mean she was literally tied to him. She was
his mouth Yes, so if we're.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
The mouthpiece of the Biden administration, it's very hard to
walk that back and then say, yeah, this party is
just total bs and I don't stand for anything, and
we should be free thinkers and think outside of these boxes.
I mean, it's very convenient now that she was the
mouthpiece for President Biden and she was peddling all of
these lies about President Biden for the last four years.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Now she gets to pretend to be on the right
side of history. I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I heard people talking about it and they're like, you know,
some of the things that she said were just not true.
And then one of the other people was like, no,
we call that a lot. That's legitimately like she genuinely
lied in And you can see how people are still
somewhat carefully walking conversations like this where they're like, are
we allowed to say that she fully lied? Yes, yes,
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we're allowed to say everybody in that administration lied. All
of these Democrats who stood up for President Biden saying
he should run again, all knew they were lying. The
Shumers of the world, the Pelosis of the world. Everyone
knew they were lying. But she's the worst. And this,
to me is so funny because it's happening across the country.
People are like, oh, turns out I'm an independent. Like,
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that's a whole nother party. They're trying to create another
party that I don't even know what it represents. Because
same thing happened here in Michigan, where the mayor of
Detroit came out as an independent and he's running for
governor now and he's running against a hardcore Democrat and
she's mad.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Because she's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
A few months ago, Man, you were on the stage
with Kamala Harris just screaming her praises, and now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You're an independent. These people are so full crap.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, is also
running as an independent.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He's the incumbent.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Now all of a sudden, he's not a Democrat anymore
and now he's an independent. I don't understand that, but
I just think they're all trying to distance themselves from
the Democrat Party in general. Kareem John Pierre, I think
she's trying to distance herself from the Biden administration because
that was chaos and it was a debacle, and I
wouldn't want to be associated with it either. But I
think Democrats in general have a real issue because they
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are failing and they don't have any leaders right now.
They have no one to turn to. They're floundering. So
even the Democrats don't want to be Democrats anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But the one thing that's the point, that's the part
I love about Kareem Jean Pierre coming out with this
book and the bizarreity of it being called The Independent.
I mean, how hilarious is this, But the fact that
she's doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You have the president's press secretary.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Coming out now and saying, I've left the party that
I stood up for years in front of a podium
looking like a moron and defending this, and now I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Stepping away to me the story here. I don't give
a crap about her.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know, she's she is a lost piece. Well she says,
she's a walking piece of history. Let's play this clip
of her and then we'll chat about how irrelevant she is.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Anythings, many things that made me incredibly proud to be
at that podium during this historic moment. Again, this is
a historic administration. I'm a historic figure and I certainly
walk in history every day, but this is also a
historic making administration because of this president.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They love to say the same word ober and ober. Again,
that was a Kamala thing.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Too historic she is, she is history now, but she's
trying to stay relevant. I think the story here is
that there she was out there defending this administration, and
now she is doing everything she can to escape.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
What is the future of the party.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
People are running so hard that they're putting out books
saying I hate this administration, I hate this party.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm not a part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, it's interesting that she called herself a historical figure.
That's really patting yourself on the back there, which I
don't think is necessary. She was the first black press secretary.
She was the first openly gay press secretary. I love
how they have to say that, because they don't know
if past secretaries were actually gay. She might not be
the first, She's just the first open one about it.
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And that's really telling because it doesn't matter who you
sleep with behind closed doors. It doesn't matter so long
as they are consenting adults. I don't care who you
sleep with. That shouldn't be an identifier or a qualifier
that follows your title.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You're the White House Press secretary, that's an honor.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Maybe not if you're peddling lies to the Biden administration
or for the Biden administration, but certainly this obsession with
the word historic, Like you said, Kamala Harris first whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
She is black Indian, and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
The first openly trans human Health and Human Services secretary
or she was deputy or something, or he was deputy
right now, I get all confused.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right, well, of course, how can you keep up because
of all this?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It is, it's lunacy, and all the progress that Democrats
can deliver on is these firsts. They can't deliver on
progress that actually means something for the American people, So
they use these buzzwords that gets people liberals excited about
Democrats in general.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's really the only thing they can deliver on.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But buzzwords have not delivered. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And they're like, why didn't the buzzwords work? And this
is honestly a conversation with them right now. It's like,
we tried all these buzzwords they didn't, you know, food security,
all these things that you have to It's so bizarre
because you have to kind of like pull yourself out
of this weird liberal box to stitch the words together
the right way to go, Okay, that's what they meant
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hungry people. You know, like this is insane that we
have to try to wrap ourselves in a pretzel to
figure out what the words mean in the Democrat.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Party, and that never struck them as.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
A problem, like we're going to create new words that
mean things that we already have words for, and why
aren't people following this?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Because people genuinely do care about.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The fact that there's a hunger issue in the United States,
but they have no idea what that Democrats are talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And they have shamed men so hard, especially white.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Men, but I think men in general, Like I feel
like they've they started shaming white men, but then they
completely skipped over giving black men any type of role
in the Democrat Party because they were like, you know what,
we've got to go on to trans and to women,
and so all men got screwed in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And they're like, why aren't men with us? You hate men,
you have treated men like crap. They cannot figure out
how that happened. And now they're trying to appeal to
men with women that are not gonna be able to matter.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Right, you can't be white in the Democrat Party. You
can't be a white man. Certainly, that's even worse. The
only way that you can be a white man in
the Democrat Party is if you sleep with other men.
That's the only way that you can redeem yourself on
this woke totem pole. Because women are at the bottom,
because trans people are have completely erased them.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It turns out men are so much better at being
women in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Are the best women, Yes, they are the best women.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I mean, you can't make it up.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And then so you go through this, all of this,
and I mean just the chaos. I think that people
have started to really step back, and men especially because
regardless of how much they want to deny biology and
they want to deny what the traditional roles are of men.
And I don't mean traditional in the sense that this
is what society believes, this is what is innate, this
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is what our bodies are just desired to do. Is
to protect women and you've created a society where everything soundsafe.
You go into these big cities and people are getting robbed,
people are walking into stores and having people shop left
next to them. You've had riots, you have this massive
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influx of illegal aliens, and you've got crime going on.
And the problem that the Democrats have is that you
can't deny it. We've had young women die. You have
Rachel Moren who died, you had you know, all these
other You've got Ruby Garcia in Michigan who was killed.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You got Lincoln Riley who was killed.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You've got this man that just this terror attack that
we just saw in Colorado. And this is another guy
who came in under the Biden administration and then he
launched this horrific attack against Jewish people. You have the
two that beautiful young couple in Washington, d c. Who's
murdered on the streets. And to me, this is the
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bizarre part about it. We are not totally outraged right
now about those two things. The attack in Colorado and
the and Josh Shapiro's house hit the governor's mansion being
burned and they tried to burn into the ground in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He killed this beautiful young couple in Washington, d C.
Set these people on fire in Colorado, and the Democrats
have not come out and said, man, we really screwed
this up.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
No, of course, because then that they would have to
hold themselves accountable, which they're incapable of doing. Chris Cuomo,
who used to be on CNN now I guess he
has his own podcasts. Earlier this week, he said this
whole Lake and Riley and illegal immigration leading to crime
thing is a manufactured crisis. He literally said that conservatives
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were making this up. The left loves to do this.
They say that we are just running with wild right
wing conspiracy theories, and that's really just the truth that
they don't want to admit. So Chris Cuomo legitimately said
on his show, stories like Lake and Riley, I mean,
this is a one off, but there's other crime that
we should be talking about in prioritizing.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Could you tell Jasmine Andnger mother that, I mean, give
me a break.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This is just absolutely outrageous that they are saying this
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
But honestly, that is why they're losing.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's why they're losing because they come out and they
see and that's why men when they say they're trying
to recruit more men. That's why men have gone to
the Republican Party every time, and in the last election
cycle they've been coming over.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The young men have been coming over.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I mean, my daughter said when she left high school
on election Day, the guys were chanting Trump, Trump, Trump
as they walked out the door. Young men are sick
and tired of feeling like they live in a country
where they are demonized and they can't protect the people
they loved.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
The Democrats are really putting up these younger voices in
the Democrat Party, Harry sisson and David Hogg, And I
think a lot of white women, white liberal women with
guilt like their content.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Other liberals like their content.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I don't think that Harry Sissen and David Hogg are
speaking for the majority of men because the Democrat Party
has pushed men out for years, decades. They've been telling
them that they're toxic, that their masculinity is wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
They shouldn't lean into it.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
The only men that they lift up in the Democrat
Party are ones that are too old to be running
and shouldn't be there. Biden, and they lift up women
pretending to be men or men pretending to be women.
But it's not just men. If you are a normal
man and you look at the Democrat Party of today,
you're thinking, I don't have a place here because they've
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told you for years that you're toxic, you're bad, women
don't need you, You're useless in society. So why would
Democrats ever feel at home in the Democrat Party? And
Harry Sissen and David Hogg they're.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Not doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, no, they are not going to appeal to men whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I think that's I think they're still lost.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think they get together by twenty twenty eight, though,
And that's what I want to caution Republicans against thinking, oh,
the Democrat Party has just lost, and potentially it will.
I mean, there's two schools of thought. The Democrat Party
is dying off. But then you know there's people who
think Jasmin Crockett is the next second coming of the
Democrat Party, that she's the future, and.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I would welcome that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
If Jasmine Crockett is the image of what a Democrat
is today, then I think that the Democrat Party becomes
this radical leftist party. But what happens to these people
who have now decided to declare their independence from the
Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Are they going to form a new party? What happens
to them?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Because you do have the Mike Duggans and the Eric
Adams and the apparently kjps of the world who are
now independent.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What happens to the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I think those Democrats who have become they're more centrist Democrats,
I think they are going to become disaffected with the
Democrat Party. Is the Democrats keep leaning in to these
extremely progressive factions of the party, the aocs of the world,
the squad. They take marching orders from the blue hair
septum piercing wearing people who are marching around for whatever cause.
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Insert cause here. They'll just fight for anything because they
stand for nothing. But that's really what the Democrats are
focused on, which is kind of just noise. And the
majority of people who go to the polls looking for
policy and change that's actually going to affect their life,
They're not going to identify with the Democrat Party anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I think some of them are probably still anti Trump.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And the good thing about twenty twenty eight is that
Trump's not going to be on the ballot. Maybe his
vice president will be. But depending on who I mean.
I'm just hypothetical. If Vice President Jade Vance is the candidate,
the Republican candidate in twenty twenty eight, it would depend
on who his vice president is. I wonder if he
does pick someone like a Tulsea Gabbard, would she pick
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up those Democrats that are totally lost?
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so stay tuned. I think people are watching this administration
very carefully because there have been a lot of promises
from RFK, and there's a lot of controversy over what
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he's doing. But there hasn't been a massive amount of
change because we're in the first few months still of
this administration. So over the next.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Four years, everybody will be watching every move very carefully
and analyzing every time the jobs report comes out. You've
got Elon Musk leaving. There's all kinds of discussion over
exactly what that is, and he's been putting some things
out that are I would say somewhat negative about the administration, well,
specifically about the Big.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Beautiful Bill, right.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I wouldn't say that he has directly attacked the administration
at this point, but he has said he is unhappy
with the Big Beautiful Bill. I think that what has
happened is that he's gotten in and seeing that there
is no easy way to just rip the government apart.
And two probably a lot of Democrats joy that he
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found out that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You just can't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But you know, it should be to the joy of
the American people that it's not like you can just
take a part what has been built. And I'm not
saying that you shouldn't want to take a lot of
it apart.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The way the government is structured is it can't be
destroyed overnight. And that should make people comfortable. But there
are things that need to be cut and it is
hard to do because government doesn't move at the speed
of anything else.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Government moves very slow, right.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I think that Elon Musk is probably very upset because
he was hired in this contractor type position to be
a special government employee. He was there for what one
hundred and thirty some odd days to kind of go
in there, root out this corruption, find where we're sending
money to astronomical, astronomical amounts of money to insane places,
like paying for circumcisions in Africa and transgender surgeries on
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mice and what have you. And I think he feels like,
I just found all of this corruption. I saved America
all this money, and now we're going to raise the
debt ceiling in this bill, and he feels like, probably
a personal attack. I just did all this work and
now we're seeing one step forward, two steps back. But
you know Elon Musk now launching this attack just hours
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ago on President Trump saying I don't think that President
Trump would have won without me. I think that Elon
Musk was an integral part of the election process, but
I don't think that people liked Elon Musk. Well, no,
I shouldn't say that. I think people really conservatives liked
Elon Musk because of what he did with Twitter, and
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he completely rooted out corruption in Twitter and basically doged Twitter.
And now we have x Twitter two point oh, and
things are a lot better and free speech was upheld
in ways that we were not seeing under Twitter.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
One point oh.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
But I think that the support for President Trump was
genuine without Elon Musk. I think people liked that Elon
Musk was attached to Trump, but I don't think that
Trump wouldn't have won without it.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But I think Trump would be the first person to
come out. The president is very much team oriented. He
understands that you have to have the right people around you.
And that's why I find that attack from Elon Musk
interesting because I think Donald Trump is the kind of
guy who says, I needed all these factors to make
sure we could get everything out to everybody, and that
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was critical what Elon Musk did with the X files
that came out, the files that came out from Matt
Tayibi and the other journalists who went through and exposed
what was going on behind the scenes, that was so critical,
and I think he's right in the sense that that
was critical, and I think President Trump would be the
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first person to say there had to be someone who
was willing to go out and expose Look, the administration
was working with these guys behind the scenes to brainwash you,
and that had to happen to make sure that people
realized propaganda is real, government control is real.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It has to be taken seriously.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
When when Donald Trump came out and said, oh, they're
banning me from saying this, but you know, the supreme
leader around can come out and say whatever he wants
and people are like, oh, no, but you're dangerous. Well
then they get the files from behind the scenes like,
oh crap, he actually wasn't the person that they said
he was. This was all manufactured, all manipulated. That was
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one factor that I think had to happen to get
the country back on course. And I don't think Donald
Trump would ever take that away from Elon to say,
you know, that wasn't critical, that was so I guess
it's a strange attack from Elon Musk to say, you know,
you wouldn't be here for orn't for me. Well, we
all play a part and nobody's taking that away from you.
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He got in and he realized that government is really
hard to affect immediate change. And I understand his pain
on that. I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I to your point about President Trump realizing the importance
of having a great team around him totally. I also
think that President Trump doesn't like when people attack him.
I think that he's a very loyal person and he
respects when people are loyal back to him. And I
think that this might be a rift in their professional
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relationship or in their friendship of their friends. I don't know,
but I you know, I think about the Supreme Court
race in Wisconsin. Elon Musk put a big push there.
He was giving out big checks. I forget the amount
of money now, but he was incentivizing voters to get
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out a vote in that race.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And he didn't win that right race. We didn't win
that seat.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
And I think for Elon Musk to do that and
then say this that, you know, Trump wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Have won without him.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I will see how their relationship goes, but I can
see this being a little rocky.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So what do you think is the future in the administration?
What what goes on after in the next few years
with RFK and you do have Tulca Gabbard in there,
and there is kind of this rallying around Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Still his approval rating is rising.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I mean, I expect that to kind of ebb and
flow over the next three and a half years.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Because that's typically how it goes.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But can he set up the midterms in a way
that people say, yeah, I want to see Republicans still
have this chance because the Democrat Party is really still
in total chaos.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I think President Trump did a lot via executive order
in the beginning that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I think we need to see Republicans.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
In Congress kind of codify President Trump's policies into law
and really affect change that way on that side of government.
And what do I want to see in the next
four years. I think a lot of people voted with
culture issues in mind. I think President Trump has done
a good job on that, certainly protecting women in women's sports.
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And I think the MAHA movement is next because there
were a lot of moms, crunchy Granolla moms, maybe liberal
moms and also conservative moms who were concerned about.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Their children and what they're feeding them. I mean, I
feel like.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The Maha movement is more bipartisan than we think, so
I think if they solidify some good movement there in
the Maha movement. I know they're banning very dangerous guyes
and chemicals in foods, I think this is a win
for everyone. I think these are things that most Americans
can get behind. Making sure that there aren't seed oils
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and other toxic sludge in baby formula.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think, again, this is another thing that I would.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Be hard pressed to find a liberal that doesn't have
TDS that wouldn't agree with that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's the crazy thing when you hear about what's in
baby formula and you go, what, how do we not
know this? But I will say a few years ago,
I worked with a kid and I remember him saying, man,
kids are so fat these days.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That he was like, if I see it again, that's overweight.
I immediately think those parents are out of control.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And he didn't have kids, and he was young, and
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna give you grace on
that one because you haven't experienced parenting yet.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Before we really realized, you know, Americans are eating much
differently than people in Europe. And I think at that time,
I really felt like, oh my gosh, I kind of
fell into the propaganda of Americans just always have big
meals and we eat everything is large, and the big
gulp and the slushies and the you know, restaurants, everything
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is just supersized, you know, supersize me. It was like
the American story was that we just ate too much,
and I think we.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Got lulled into this.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's our individual faults that we struggle with our weight.
And then I started to see years ago. I started
to see like Vannie Harry who came out and was like, man,
this stuff is messed up.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
The stuff we're eating is messed up. It's not it's
people in Europe.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
These chemicals and foods have been banned, these food dies
have been banned. And I was like, wait a minute,
what if we really are What if the FDA is
not as the trusted source that we thought it was.
And I'm not saying that we have to just throw
out everything that we have in government, but why why
on earth is it that people in Europe are not
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eating the crap that we're eating. And when you look
at pictures from Europe and you compare them to the
United States. We are overweight, we are unhealthy. But what
if it is not because of what we are eating,
it's because of what's in what we're eating.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, I think in order to be healthy in America
these days, you have to really make a concerted effort
to be healthy. You can't just kind of be this laxadaisical.
You know, I have a good body. I don't have
to really work at it. I eat semi healthy. I
mean when you eat, even when you try to eat
very healthy, you go to whole foods, maybe you're going
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you're trying to find organic foods, you will look at
the ingredient list and say, what is that? Even in
organic food I started on this journey maybe a few
months ago, maybe a year ago, of looking at the
nutrition facts, looking at the ingredients in everything I eat,
everything I buy.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It is very hard to not have chemicals in totally.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Even if you are going to organic health food stores,
it is very difficult to not find a salad dressing
that doesn't have xanthin gum in it, or some other emulsifier,
some other chemical that makes it tasty or colorful or
what have you. And I think the American food system
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has spent so much time with GMO and on all
these things making food look a certain way, making it
look appetizing, genetically modifying tomatoes to make them bigger, to
make them last longer in food stores. Everything is because
they want to make money.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Food security.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, we talked about that word earlier, but that's where
they're like, Oh, if we don't, everybody's going to be
hungry if we don't have GMOs. And I'm not saying
that I'm an expert on this, but this is the
first time we have seen somebody go into the administration
that is actually talking about this in a different way
because everybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Has been owned by big food.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And there are governors out there, and there are congressmen
and women out there who are owned by big sugar
and big pharma and all these different organizations that have
lobbyists that go in and say we'll pay to get
you elected. And there's a massive amount of money in politics.
And that's the scary part. When I look at other countries,
Why are they not dealing with this?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Do they not allow this?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Do they not have pharmaceutical lobbies that go in and
manipulate their elected officials. Maybe not, but something's got to
give because America is on health and we are one
of the most unhealthy Western nations. And it is not
because we are purposely doing this. And you brought up
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going someplace where you shop all organic, well, I mean,
who can afford that? Honestly?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
No, barely.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean I think to your point earlier when you
were talking about what do I want to see in
the next four years, I know that we're happy with
the way that things are going. Gas prices are dropping
a little bit, grocery price is dropping a little bit.
I think the American people need to see more ahead
of the midterms in order to really get that feeling like, yeah,
my vote was worth it, my vote for Trump was
worth that. I want to see this continue. So that's
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another thing too, the MAHA movement, but also prices got
to keep coming down. And to your point about politicians
getting corrupted by lobbyists, I mean, it's really any cause
that politicians talk about it makes me think they're corrupted.
They become so easily corrupted. I'm I hate the government.
(30:01):
I hate the government. I actually I don't really care
what side of the government you are on, what side
of the alue you are on.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I think that a lot of people are well meaning.
They go into.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Government because they want to help, they want to be
a public servant, and then when you see what happens,
I feel like even the people who have good intentions
hit this wall where.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
They want to make progress and they can't for some reason.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
And maybe it is this lobby maybe it's lobbyists, maybe
it's something else.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I don't know what it is, but that's very disheartening
for me.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean, I think that government should completely be exposed.
So I'm anxious to see where this goes. I'm anxious
to see what happens over the next four years. What
I've been told is exactly what you just said. People
want to see money back in their pockets. Everything has
gotten too expensive and it is outrageous, I mean everything,
and the taxes in many of these states are so
high that we're looking for relief from the federal government.
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And that's what we'll see, hopefully in this big, beautiful bill.
Hopefully we'll see some tax relief. We'll see some as
prices go down, and ultimately I think that to have
both women and men come together to vote in twenty
twenty eight or even in twenty twenty six for the midterms.
There is going to have to be a discussion about
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how we can trust the food that we're eating, because
I think that's what it comes down to, is that
you can't trust what you go buy at the grocery
store anymore. And I'm not saying to I'm not even
talking about the processed food, talking about you can't even
trust or the food that you're buying in the produce departments,
like buy organic, and then you've got the next person say, well,
you can't buy organic because you'll have this problem, this problem,
(31:37):
and I.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Think we just feel like there's an overload.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Someone needs to come in and say, we're trying to
solve chronic disease with what goes into your mouth and
what you put into your stomach, and we're going to
make sure that's healthy. And I think that is the future.
And I appreciate you coming on to speak to us today.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So tell people.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Where they because you have a new show, but you
also you're out there in the X world and social media,
So tell people where they can find you.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, you can follow me at Hailey Karinia on x
on truth Social, on TikTok on Instagram, and my show
is Nightly Scroll. It's on Rumble Live Monday, Friday, six
pmb sterntime.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Awesome. We will definitely tune in.
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Join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have
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Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Hailey Karenia
with me today. She is the host of the Nightly
Scroll on weeknights at six pm with Silverlock, and I
am so excited to talk about all things.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
There's so much going on today in the world.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We've now just recently found out that KJP is an independent.
Elon's throwing arrows or darts at the White House.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
There's just a lot happening. So, Haley, thank you for
joining me.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Of course, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Absolutely so okay, So we just recently found out and
it's just such a joke. Karine Jean Pierre has now
come out as an independent. She's come out before. This
is the second coming out for her. She's now an independent.
So what do we think about this independence that she's
declaring after she was literally the voice of the dead
(00:52):
for four years.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, she is not an independent.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
This is very convenient for her and other Democrats who
worked in the Biden administration and now their guy lost,
so now they're out of a job. Now they are
desperate to get into the good graces of the American
people again, so maybe they can work in this town again.
But they were tied to the Biden administration. They cringe,
j up.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Here was right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I mean she was literally tied to him. She was
his mouth Yes, so if we're.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
The mouthpiece of the Biden administration, it's very hard to
walk that back and then say, yeah, this party is
just total bs and I don't stand for anything, and
we should be free thinkers and think outside of these boxes.
I mean, it's very convenient now that she was the
mouthpiece for President Biden and she was peddling all of
these lies about President Biden for the last four years.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Now she gets to pretend to be on the right
side of history. I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I heard people talking about it and they're like, you know,
some of the things that she said were just not true.
And then one of the other people was like, no,
we call that a lot. That's legitimately like she genuinely
lied in And you can see how people are still
somewhat carefully walking conversations like this where they're like, are
we allowed to say that she fully lied? Yes, yes,
(02:10):
we're allowed to say everybody in that administration lied. All
of these Democrats who stood up for President Biden saying
he should run again, all knew they were lying. The
Shumers of the world, the Pelosis of the world. Everyone
knew they were lying. But she's the worst. And this,
to me is so funny because it's happening across the country.
People are like, oh, turns out I'm an independent. Like,
(02:32):
that's a whole nother party. They're trying to create another
party that I don't even know what it represents. Because
same thing happened here in Michigan, where the mayor of
Detroit came out as an independent and he's running for
governor now and he's running against a hardcore Democrat and
she's mad.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Because she's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
A few months ago, Man, you were on the stage
with Kamala Harris just screaming her praises, and now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You're an independent. These people are so full crap.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, is also
running as an independent.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He's the incumbent.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Now all of a sudden, he's not a Democrat anymore
and now he's an independent. I don't understand that, but
I just think they're all trying to distance themselves from
the Democrat Party in general. Kareem John Pierre, I think
she's trying to distance herself from the Biden administration because
that was chaos and it was a debacle, and I
wouldn't want to be associated with it either. But I
think Democrats in general have a real issue because they
(03:30):
are failing and they don't have any leaders right now.
They have no one to turn to. They're floundering. So
even the Democrats don't want to be Democrats anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But the one thing that's the point, that's the part
I love about Kareem Jean Pierre coming out with this
book and the bizarreity of it being called The Independent.
I mean, how hilarious is this, But the fact that
she's doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You have the president's press secretary.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Coming out now and saying, I've left the party that
I stood up for years in front of a podium
looking like a moron and defending this, and now I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Stepping away to me the story here. I don't give
a crap about her.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You know, she's she is a lost piece. Well she says,
she's a walking piece of history. Let's play this clip
of her and then we'll chat about how irrelevant she is.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Anythings, many things that made me incredibly proud to be
at that podium during this historic moment. Again, this is
a historic administration. I'm a historic figure and I certainly
walk in history every day, but this is also a
historic making administration because of this president.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
They love to say the same word ober and ober. Again,
that was a Kamala thing.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Too historic she is, she is history now, but she's
trying to stay relevant. I think the story here is
that there she was out there defending this administration, and
now she is doing everything she can to escape.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
What is the future of the party.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
People are running so hard that they're putting out books
saying I hate this administration, I hate this party.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm not a part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, it's interesting that she called herself a historical figure.
That's really patting yourself on the back there, which I
don't think is necessary. She was the first black press secretary.
She was the first openly gay press secretary. I love
how they have to say that, because they don't know
if past secretaries were actually gay. She might not be
the first, She's just the first open one about it.
(05:30):
And that's really telling because it doesn't matter who you
sleep with behind closed doors. It doesn't matter so long
as they are consenting adults. I don't care who you
sleep with. That shouldn't be an identifier or a qualifier
that follows your title.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You're the White House Press secretary, that's an honor.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Maybe not if you're peddling lies to the Biden administration
or for the Biden administration, but certainly this obsession with
the word historic, Like you said, Kamala Harris first whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
She is black Indian, and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
The first openly trans human Health and Human Services secretary
or she was deputy or something, or he was deputy
right now, I get all confused.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right, well, of course, how can you keep up because
of all this?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It is, it's lunacy, and all the progress that Democrats
can deliver on is these firsts. They can't deliver on
progress that actually means something for the American people, So
they use these buzzwords that gets people liberals excited about
Democrats in general.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That's really the only thing they can deliver on.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But buzzwords have not delivered. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
And they're like, why didn't the buzzwords work? And this
is honestly a conversation with them right now. It's like,
we tried all these buzzwords they didn't, you know, food security,
all these things that you have to It's so bizarre
because you have to kind of like pull yourself out
of this weird liberal box to stitch the words together
the right way to go, Okay, that's what they meant
(07:00):
hungry people. You know, like this is insane that we
have to try to wrap ourselves in a pretzel to
figure out what the words mean in the Democrat.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Party, and that never struck them as.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
A problem, like we're going to create new words that
mean things that we already have words for, and why
aren't people following this?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Because people genuinely do care about.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
The fact that there's a hunger issue in the United States,
but they have no idea what that Democrats are talking about.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And they have shamed men so hard, especially white.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Men, but I think men in general, Like I feel
like they've they started shaming white men, but then they
completely skipped over giving black men any type of role
in the Democrat Party because they were like, you know what,
we've got to go on to trans and to women,
and so all men got screwed in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And they're like, why aren't men with us? You hate men,
you have treated men like crap. They cannot figure out
how that happened. And now they're trying to appeal to
men with women that are not gonna be able to matter.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Right, you can't be white in the Democrat Party. You
can't be a white man. Certainly, that's even worse. The
only way that you can be a white man in
the Democrat Party is if you sleep with other men.
That's the only way that you can redeem yourself on
this woke totem pole. Because women are at the bottom,
because trans people are have completely erased them.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It turns out men are so much better at being
women in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Are the best women, Yes, they are the best women.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I mean, you can't make it up.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And then so you go through this, all of this,
and I mean just the chaos. I think that people
have started to really step back, and men especially because
regardless of how much they want to deny biology and
they want to deny what the traditional roles are of men.
And I don't mean traditional in the sense that this
is what society believes, this is what is innate, this
(08:51):
is what our bodies are just desired to do. Is
to protect women and you've created a society where everything soundsafe.
You go into these big cities and people are getting robbed,
people are walking into stores and having people shop left
next to them. You've had riots, you have this massive
(09:11):
influx of illegal aliens, and you've got crime going on.
And the problem that the Democrats have is that you
can't deny it. We've had young women die. You have
Rachel Moren who died, you had you know, all these
other You've got Ruby Garcia in Michigan who was killed.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You got Lincoln Riley who was killed.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You've got this man that just this terror attack that
we just saw in Colorado. And this is another guy
who came in under the Biden administration and then he
launched this horrific attack against Jewish people. You have the
two that beautiful young couple in Washington, d c. Who's
murdered on the streets. And to me, this is the
(09:52):
bizarre part about it. We are not totally outraged right
now about those two things. The attack in Colorado and
the and Josh Shapiro's house hit the governor's mansion being
burned and they tried to burn into the ground in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
He killed this beautiful young couple in Washington, d C.
Set these people on fire in Colorado, and the Democrats
have not come out and said, man, we really screwed
this up.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
No, of course, because then that they would have to
hold themselves accountable, which they're incapable of doing. Chris Cuomo,
who used to be on CNN now I guess he
has his own podcasts. Earlier this week, he said this
whole Lake and Riley and illegal immigration leading to crime
thing is a manufactured crisis. He literally said that conservatives
(10:39):
were making this up. The left loves to do this.
They say that we are just running with wild right
wing conspiracy theories, and that's really just the truth that
they don't want to admit. So Chris Cuomo legitimately said
on his show, stories like Lake and Riley, I mean,
this is a one off, but there's other crime that
we should be talking about in prioritizing.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Could you tell Jasmine Andnger mother that, I mean, give
me a break.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This is just absolutely outrageous that they are saying this
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
But honestly, that is why they're losing.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That's why they're losing because they come out and they
see and that's why men when they say they're trying
to recruit more men. That's why men have gone to
the Republican Party every time, and in the last election
cycle they've been coming over.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The young men have been coming over.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I mean, my daughter said when she left high school
on election Day, the guys were chanting Trump, Trump, Trump
as they walked out the door. Young men are sick
and tired of feeling like they live in a country
where they are demonized and they can't protect the people
they loved.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
The Democrats are really putting up these younger voices in
the Democrat Party, Harry sisson and David Hogg, And I
think a lot of white women, white liberal women with
guilt like their content.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Other liberals like their content.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I don't think that Harry Sissen and David Hogg are
speaking for the majority of men because the Democrat Party
has pushed men out for years, decades. They've been telling
them that they're toxic, that their masculinity is wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
They shouldn't lean into it.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
The only men that they lift up in the Democrat
Party are ones that are too old to be running
and shouldn't be there. Biden, and they lift up women
pretending to be men or men pretending to be women.
But it's not just men. If you are a normal
man and you look at the Democrat Party of today,
you're thinking, I don't have a place here because they've
(12:38):
told you for years that you're toxic, you're bad, women
don't need you, You're useless in society. So why would
Democrats ever feel at home in the Democrat Party? And
Harry Sissen and David Hogg they're.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Not doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, no, they are not going to appeal to men whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I think that's I think they're still lost.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I think they get together by twenty twenty eight, though,
And that's what I want to caution Republicans against thinking, oh,
the Democrat Party has just lost, and potentially it will.
I mean, there's two schools of thought. The Democrat Party
is dying off. But then you know there's people who
think Jasmin Crockett is the next second coming of the
Democrat Party, that she's the future, and.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I would welcome that.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
If Jasmine Crockett is the image of what a Democrat
is today, then I think that the Democrat Party becomes
this radical leftist party. But what happens to these people
who have now decided to declare their independence from the
Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Are they going to form a new party? What happens
to them?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Because you do have the Mike Duggans and the Eric
Adams and the apparently kjps of the world who are
now independent.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What happens to the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I think those Democrats who have become they're more centrist Democrats,
I think they are going to become disaffected with the
Democrat Party. Is the Democrats keep leaning in to these
extremely progressive factions of the party, the aocs of the world,
the squad. They take marching orders from the blue hair
septum piercing wearing people who are marching around for whatever cause.
(14:15):
Insert cause here. They'll just fight for anything because they
stand for nothing. But that's really what the Democrats are
focused on, which is kind of just noise. And the
majority of people who go to the polls looking for
policy and change that's actually going to affect their life,
They're not going to identify with the Democrat Party anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I think some of them are probably still anti Trump.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And the good thing about twenty twenty eight is that
Trump's not going to be on the ballot. Maybe his
vice president will be. But depending on who I mean.
I'm just hypothetical. If Vice President Jade Vance is the candidate,
the Republican candidate in twenty twenty eight, it would depend
on who his vice president is. I wonder if he
does pick someone like a Tulsea Gabbard, would she pick
(15:01):
up those Democrats that are totally lost?
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so stay tuned. I think people are watching this administration
very carefully because there have been a lot of promises
from RFK, and there's a lot of controversy over what
(17:02):
he's doing. But there hasn't been a massive amount of
change because we're in the first few months still of
this administration. So over the next.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Four years, everybody will be watching every move very carefully
and analyzing every time the jobs report comes out. You've
got Elon Musk leaving. There's all kinds of discussion over
exactly what that is, and he's been putting some things
out that are I would say somewhat negative about the administration, well,
specifically about the Big.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Beautiful Bill, right.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I wouldn't say that he has directly attacked the administration
at this point, but he has said he is unhappy
with the Big Beautiful Bill. I think that what has
happened is that he's gotten in and seeing that there
is no easy way to just rip the government apart.
And two probably a lot of Democrats joy that he
(17:52):
found out that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You just can't do that.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But you know, it should be to the joy of
the American people that it's not like you can just
take a part what has been built. And I'm not
saying that you shouldn't want to take a lot of
it apart.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The way the government is structured is it can't be
destroyed overnight. And that should make people comfortable. But there
are things that need to be cut and it is
hard to do because government doesn't move at the speed
of anything else.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Government moves very slow, right.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I think that Elon Musk is probably very upset because
he was hired in this contractor type position to be
a special government employee. He was there for what one
hundred and thirty some odd days to kind of go
in there, root out this corruption, find where we're sending
money to astronomical, astronomical amounts of money to insane places,
like paying for circumcisions in Africa and transgender surgeries on
(18:46):
mice and what have you. And I think he feels like,
I just found all of this corruption. I saved America
all this money, and now we're going to raise the
debt ceiling in this bill, and he feels like, probably
a personal attack. I just did all this work and
now we're seeing one step forward, two steps back. But
you know Elon Musk now launching this attack just hours
(19:09):
ago on President Trump saying I don't think that President
Trump would have won without me. I think that Elon
Musk was an integral part of the election process, but
I don't think that people liked Elon Musk. Well, no,
I shouldn't say that. I think people really conservatives liked
Elon Musk because of what he did with Twitter, and
(19:31):
he completely rooted out corruption in Twitter and basically doged Twitter.
And now we have x Twitter two point oh, and
things are a lot better and free speech was upheld
in ways that we were not seeing under Twitter.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
One point oh.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
But I think that the support for President Trump was
genuine without Elon Musk. I think people liked that Elon
Musk was attached to Trump, but I don't think that
Trump wouldn't have won without it.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But I think Trump would be the first person to
come out. The president is very much team oriented. He
understands that you have to have the right people around you.
And that's why I find that attack from Elon Musk
interesting because I think Donald Trump is the kind of
guy who says, I needed all these factors to make
sure we could get everything out to everybody, and that
(20:20):
was critical what Elon Musk did with the X files
that came out, the files that came out from Matt
Tayibi and the other journalists who went through and exposed
what was going on behind the scenes, that was so critical,
and I think he's right in the sense that that
was critical, and I think President Trump would be the
(20:41):
first person to say there had to be someone who
was willing to go out and expose Look, the administration
was working with these guys behind the scenes to brainwash you,
and that had to happen to make sure that people
realized propaganda is real, government control is real.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It has to be taken seriously.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
When when Donald Trump came out and said, oh, they're
banning me from saying this, but you know, the supreme
leader around can come out and say whatever he wants
and people are like, oh, no, but you're dangerous. Well
then they get the files from behind the scenes like,
oh crap, he actually wasn't the person that they said
he was. This was all manufactured, all manipulated. That was
(21:22):
one factor that I think had to happen to get
the country back on course. And I don't think Donald
Trump would ever take that away from Elon to say,
you know, that wasn't critical, that was so I guess
it's a strange attack from Elon Musk to say, you know,
you wouldn't be here for orn't for me. Well, we
all play a part and nobody's taking that away from you.
(21:43):
He got in and he realized that government is really
hard to affect immediate change. And I understand his pain
on that. I get it.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I to your point about President Trump realizing the importance
of having a great team around him totally. I also
think that President Trump doesn't like when people attack him.
I think that he's a very loyal person and he
respects when people are loyal back to him. And I
think that this might be a rift in their professional
(22:14):
relationship or in their friendship of their friends. I don't know,
but I you know, I think about the Supreme Court
race in Wisconsin. Elon Musk put a big push there.
He was giving out big checks. I forget the amount
of money now, but he was incentivizing voters to get
(22:34):
out a vote in that race.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
And he didn't win that right race. We didn't win
that seat.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
And I think for Elon Musk to do that and
then say this that, you know, Trump wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Have won without him.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I will see how their relationship goes, but I can
see this being a little rocky.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
So what do you think is the future in the administration?
What what goes on after in the next few years
with RFK and you do have Tulca Gabbard in there,
and there is kind of this rallying around Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Still his approval rating is rising.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I mean, I expect that to kind of ebb and
flow over the next three and a half years.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Because that's typically how it goes.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But can he set up the midterms in a way
that people say, yeah, I want to see Republicans still
have this chance because the Democrat Party is really still
in total chaos.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I think President Trump did a lot via executive order
in the beginning that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I think we need to see Republicans.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
In Congress kind of codify President Trump's policies into law
and really affect change that way on that side of government.
And what do I want to see in the next
four years. I think a lot of people voted with
culture issues in mind. I think President Trump has done
a good job on that, certainly protecting women in women's sports.
(23:58):
And I think the MAHA movement is next because there
were a lot of moms, crunchy Granolla moms, maybe liberal
moms and also conservative moms who were concerned about.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Their children and what they're feeding them. I mean, I
feel like.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The Maha movement is more bipartisan than we think, so
I think if they solidify some good movement there in
the Maha movement. I know they're banning very dangerous guyes
and chemicals in foods, I think this is a win
for everyone. I think these are things that most Americans
can get behind. Making sure that there aren't seed oils
(24:33):
and other toxic sludge in baby formula.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think, again, this is another thing that I would.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Be hard pressed to find a liberal that doesn't have
TDS that wouldn't agree with that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's the crazy thing when you hear about what's in
baby formula and you go, what, how do we not
know this? But I will say a few years ago,
I worked with a kid and I remember him saying, man,
kids are so fat these days.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That he was like, if I see it again, that's overweight.
I immediately think those parents are out of control.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And he didn't have kids, and he was young, and
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna give you grace on
that one because you haven't experienced parenting yet.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Before we really realized, you know, Americans are eating much
differently than people in Europe. And I think at that time,
I really felt like, oh my gosh, I kind of
fell into the propaganda of Americans just always have big
meals and we eat everything is large, and the big
gulp and the slushies and the you know, restaurants, everything
(25:33):
is just supersized, you know, supersize me. It was like
the American story was that we just ate too much,
and I think we.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Got lulled into this.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's our individual faults that we struggle with our weight.
And then I started to see years ago. I started
to see like Vannie Harry who came out and was like, man,
this stuff is messed up.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
The stuff we're eating is messed up. It's not it's
people in Europe.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
These chemicals and foods have been banned, these food dies
have been banned. And I was like, wait a minute,
what if we really are What if the FDA is
not as the trusted source that we thought it was.
And I'm not saying that we have to just throw
out everything that we have in government, but why why
on earth is it that people in Europe are not
(26:21):
eating the crap that we're eating. And when you look
at pictures from Europe and you compare them to the
United States. We are overweight, we are unhealthy. But what
if it is not because of what we are eating,
it's because of what's in what we're eating.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, I think in order to be healthy in America
these days, you have to really make a concerted effort
to be healthy. You can't just kind of be this laxadaisical.
You know, I have a good body. I don't have
to really work at it. I eat semi healthy. I
mean when you eat, even when you try to eat
very healthy, you go to whole foods, maybe you're going
(26:57):
you're trying to find organic foods, you will look at
the ingredient list and say, what is that? Even in
organic food I started on this journey maybe a few
months ago, maybe a year ago, of looking at the
nutrition facts, looking at the ingredients in everything I eat,
everything I buy.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It is very hard to not have chemicals in totally.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Even if you are going to organic health food stores,
it is very difficult to not find a salad dressing
that doesn't have xanthin gum in it, or some other emulsifier,
some other chemical that makes it tasty or colorful or
what have you. And I think the American food system
(27:43):
has spent so much time with GMO and on all
these things making food look a certain way, making it
look appetizing, genetically modifying tomatoes to make them bigger, to
make them last longer in food stores. Everything is because
they want to make money.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Food security.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, we talked about that word earlier, but that's where
they're like, Oh, if we don't, everybody's going to be
hungry if we don't have GMOs. And I'm not saying
that I'm an expert on this, but this is the
first time we have seen somebody go into the administration
that is actually talking about this in a different way
because everybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Has been owned by big food.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And there are governors out there, and there are congressmen
and women out there who are owned by big sugar
and big pharma and all these different organizations that have
lobbyists that go in and say we'll pay to get
you elected. And there's a massive amount of money in politics.
And that's the scary part. When I look at other countries,
Why are they not dealing with this?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Do they not allow this?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Do they not have pharmaceutical lobbies that go in and
manipulate their elected officials. Maybe not, but something's got to
give because America is on health and we are one
of the most unhealthy Western nations. And it is not
because we are purposely doing this. And you brought up
(29:09):
going someplace where you shop all organic, well, I mean,
who can afford that? Honestly?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
No, barely.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I mean I think to your point earlier when you
were talking about what do I want to see in
the next four years, I know that we're happy with
the way that things are going. Gas prices are dropping
a little bit, grocery price is dropping a little bit.
I think the American people need to see more ahead
of the midterms in order to really get that feeling like, yeah,
my vote was worth it, my vote for Trump was
worth that. I want to see this continue. So that's
(29:39):
another thing too, the MAHA movement, but also prices got
to keep coming down. And to your point about politicians
getting corrupted by lobbyists, I mean, it's really any cause
that politicians talk about it makes me think they're corrupted.
They become so easily corrupted. I'm I hate the government.
(30:01):
I hate the government. I actually I don't really care
what side of the government you are on, what side
of the alue you are on.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I think that a lot of people are well meaning.
They go into.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Government because they want to help, they want to be
a public servant, and then when you see what happens,
I feel like even the people who have good intentions
hit this wall where.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
They want to make progress and they can't for some reason.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
And maybe it is this lobby maybe it's lobbyists, maybe
it's something else.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I don't know what it is, but that's very disheartening
for me.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I mean, I think that government should completely be exposed.
So I'm anxious to see where this goes. I'm anxious
to see what happens over the next four years. What
I've been told is exactly what you just said. People
want to see money back in their pockets. Everything has
gotten too expensive and it is outrageous, I mean everything,
and the taxes in many of these states are so
high that we're looking for relief from the federal government.
(30:53):
And that's what we'll see, hopefully in this big, beautiful bill.
Hopefully we'll see some tax relief. We'll see some as
prices go down, and ultimately I think that to have
both women and men come together to vote in twenty
twenty eight or even in twenty twenty six for the midterms.
There is going to have to be a discussion about
(31:15):
how we can trust the food that we're eating, because
I think that's what it comes down to, is that
you can't trust what you go buy at the grocery
store anymore. And I'm not saying to I'm not even
talking about the processed food, talking about you can't even
trust or the food that you're buying in the produce departments,
like buy organic, and then you've got the next person say, well,
you can't buy organic because you'll have this problem, this problem,
(31:37):
and I.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Think we just feel like there's an overload.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Someone needs to come in and say, we're trying to
solve chronic disease with what goes into your mouth and
what you put into your stomach, and we're going to
make sure that's healthy. And I think that is the future.
And I appreciate you coming on to speak to us today.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
So tell people.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Where they because you have a new show, but you
also you're out there in the X world and social media,
So tell people where they can find you.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, you can follow me at Hailey Karinia on x
on truth Social, on TikTok on Instagram, and my show
is Nightly Scroll. It's on Rumble Live Monday, Friday, six
pmb sterntime.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Awesome. We will definitely tune in.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Thank you so much, Thank you, and thank you all
for listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode
and others. Go to iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts, and you can watch the video on
Rumble two at Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Join us next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Have
a blasted day.
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