September 1, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Senator Eric Schmitt discusses his experiences as Missouri's Attorney General and now as a U.S. Senator. He emphasizes the importance of fighting back against leftist policies, the impact of cultural Marxism, and the need for a strong law enforcement presence to combat crime. Schmitt also shares insights from his book, 'The Last Line of Defense,' which serves as a guide for conservatives on how to navigate legal battles against the left. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Every so often you
find somebody in Washington that seems like a really genuine, happy,
normal human being, and that seems to be the person
that I've found. So I have Senator Eric Schmidt with me.
Thank you so much, senator for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thanks Youuter.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey, I've been an admirer of yours from Afar And
by the way, the best compliment I ever get in
Washington is he seems so normal.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So I'll take it. I will take the normal tech.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was actually like going through all of your stuff
and I was like, okay, so he was this badass
attorney general and now he's a US senator and like,
what could he.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Really be like?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And here you are doing videos with your daughter and
talking about family, and I was like, I really like
this guy.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh that's nice to say, thank you, thanks, But.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I really like you for a few different reasons. And
one is because you did take on the Biden administration,
and here in Michigan, you know that just wasn't the case.
We didn't have anybody fighting back for us, and that's
what your book is all about. You have a new
book out, and to me, it's very important that people
understand that they have this kind of guideline as to
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how to to go after the left and court, because
they go after us all the time. It's called the
last line of defense, how to beat the left in court.
And I think that's critical at this juncture, because we
are at this point of wokeness where you can't have
a normal conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You almost have to go to court.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well, that's why I wrote the book. I feel like
it's like a field manual for what it was like
to be on the front lines against this left wing
lawfare machine. And I think for too long conservatives have
seeded way too much territory in the courts because a
lot of the fights that we care about end up
there eventually anyway. And so before the job I have now,
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which is in the Senate, I was the Attorney general
in Missouri and at a really crazy time, Tutor, as
your audience remembers, I think it is important torm. I mean,
this was a time of lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, open borders,
DEI struggle sessions, CRT in our schools, and a censorship
regime that the Biden administration created that boggles the mind.
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I mean it really is amazing. So this was a
crazy time, and so with the job that I had,
we just decided we were going to fight back. So
we took the student loan debt forgiveness case of the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
We won.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We took the vaccine mandate case of the Supreme Court,
we won. We filed the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit that uncovered,
you know, before Elon Musket bought Twitter, before these Congression investigations,
for the first time uncovered this vast censorship enterprise where
all these agencies, along with big tech giants were aimed
at the American people because you know, you questioned the vaccine,
or you questioned masks, or you had a question about
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the Hunter Biden laptop story. They were literally flagging this
stuff and going after individuals. And so I think the
lesson of the book is there is a playbook for
us now moving forward. And the book just hit the
New York Times bestseller list. As for a conservative book,
it's kind of a kind of a thing.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Congratulations, thanks, But I think I think your audience audience
will enjoy because it's it's not written for lawyers. I
hope lawyers read it, but it's really about, as everybody
was watching this, what was it like to take Anthony
Fauci's deposition, what was it like to take Elvis Chan's deposition?
All these like figures in this crazy story. We wanted
to share that with people. So Last Line Offense, How
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to be the Left and Court. You can get it
anywhere right now and on Amazon too.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It's something that we've talked about so many times on
this podcast, whether it's with a woke school or somewhat
somebody that is shutting down your speech, and that's something
that I think we cannot forget. You make such a
great point when Elon Musk bought Twitter. I think some
of us were like, Okay, we're finally free. And then
the Republicans and the conservatives on our side a lot
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of times it's like, once you've gotten past that hurdle,
you just move on. Because we are we're kind of
we're very positive. We move in a positive direction. But
it's important not to let history repeat itself because once
they get back in, they're constantly trying to shut us down.
And I even hear it even today. I hear them
saying things like you know, well they can't say this,
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they can't say that. We've got to get them to
stop saying this. And they can't stand President Trump because
he stood up against this, and that's something was interesting.
I heard you say in one of your interviews that
after twenty twenty, when Joe Biden took office, there were
a lot of people that kind of just went back
into their holes and were like, you know, I don't
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really want to say anything. And I saw this in
Michigan where Republicans were like, Okay, President Trump is not
in office anymore, and they kind of felt like he's done,
he's not coming back, and there's nobody that's going to
fight on behalf of President Trump anymore. And you said
I was kind of this unknown guy that came out
and kept fighting. And I have watched what you've done
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since then, and I'm like, I think this kind of
unknown guy is going to do great.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, well, I you know, I've never written a book before,
but when when you do, there's a lot of reflection.
And in looking back now, I think my role was
to be that last line of defense, to kind of
hold the line until the cavalry arrived, right, which was
President Trump. And of course this huge win last November
when the fever broke, because it was a dark time
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and a lot of people were discouraged, and they brought
everything I mean the left had. I mean they were
working every angle. And I think that's what I try
to relate in the book too, is in that position
at that time, I saw this full landscape. I saw
it at the highest levels of government, and then in
local schools in a place like Missouri or a place
like Michigan. Right like that the coast sort of overlook
all the time. But how in the world does a
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superintendent in Springfield, Missouri become obsessed with, you know, the
the slide decks of teaching teachers and staff and other
members of the school district to divide the room by race.
It's well, they go to a conference and get you know,
they get indoctrinated, and then they think that's like their
toxic empathy, you know that they just like in there,
(06:06):
and we uncovered. We opened up one of the things
that I think you'll appreciate. We opened up a portal
for parents. During the mass debate and uh, we sued
like fifty plus school districts for their mass mandates, and
we wanted we were the only ones doing that at
the time, because I just felt like this is wrong.
There's no science to support five year olds being forced
to wear masks.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
All day long.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Like you were twice as likely to die of a
dog attack if you were a kid than of COVID.
Yet they were just they never wanted to stop, so
somebody had to step up and push back.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We did.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But also, you know, you would just see example after example,
parents would would send us. We opened up a portal
for like, what's the crazy stuff that's going on in schools?
Kids were being forced to participate in privilege walks.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like yes, you know what I mean, this is something
we forgot.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And teachers, the unions have these these retreats, the superintendents,
the districts have retreats where teachers go and.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
They are told to apologize for their whiteness.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I mean, this is this has gotten to a point
where people are afraid to meet people of another race
because they're like, I don't know how they're going to
feel about me. This has created such a racism problem,
and not even I think, just a fear of connecting
with other people because like, I don't know how they're
going to take me it's better to just not connect
at all.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It's a terrible situation we're in well, and.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's this is what cultural Marxism is, which is every
room is divided by oppressor and oppressed.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's really the goal.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And then yes, what you got to hire a consultant
to teach you how to do that better. There's a
whole industry attached to it, and it's all based on division,
and it's all by the way, it's totally racist.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
All of this stuff is racist.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And it's interesting now in the Senate, I had Hemi Dylan,
who's head and leading the Civil Rights Division. If you're
doing the stuff, I'd be I'd be very concerned. If
you're a private company, you know, Coca Cola, we talk
about it in the book too, was having these sessions
up of literally how to be less white, I.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Mean in corporate America.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So this stuff is crazy and so but I do
think that the mainstream media never wanted to talk about it.
What you're doing with this kind of diffused ecosystem now
of information being diffused is really important because people people
get it now. I think they had a moment in
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time that it was they pushed as hard as they could,
and I think you're seeing a backlash. And I agree
with you on President Trump, I was. I was, I
think the first Senate endorseder, maybe the second when he
when he was running again. And one of the reasons
why is we talk about what you were talking about
reference about me at the beginning. But he's just an
authentic guy, Like there's no people the left and their
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media allies, they've never really understood it, they can't stand it.
But he just connects. I think to my parents. I
grew up in a working class neighborhood. My dad works
seven days a week in the midnight shift. And I
remember when he came down the escalator the first time.
My dad was talking about do you see what he
said to see? And then did you see what you know?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He was connecting with how real people felt about stuff
that most politicians were totally totally talking over or they
had kind of disdained for.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know, right, he's not careful and that because he
doesn't think about being careful. He and and careful is
such an interesting word to use, because politicians are careful,
which is a kind way of saying they're not real.
They're not you don't know who they are, Yes, exactly,
And Donald Trump was like, you know what, I'm not
going to do that. And that's the beauty of But
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it's so hard for a lot of people because one
of the benefits that he has is that he came out,
he was a known person, he came out with a
lot of support.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
He was out there for years as a public figure.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I think that it's kind of an interesting dynamic
because you see some people. I've even seen it on
the local level where some people have come out boisterous
and they tried to to be Trump Trump, Is Trump
be you. It's hard to get people now to be themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yes, no, that's right. They'll never be another one like him.
I was in the Rose Garden there really won't be.
I was in the Rose Garden for for Liberation Day
and he's talking about, you know, the renegotiating these trade deals,
and he was, you know, talking about how he was
right thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And all this, but he was right.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I turned to Jim Banks, who's sitting there, I go,
We're never going to see anything like this ever again.
Like this is so unique and it's such a special
moment in time. But like and the reason why I
wrote the book Last Line of Defense, How would beat
the Left? And court is man. There was a period
of time where that didn't seem like necessarily where we
would end up right, and it was because you know,
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we were able to fight back. But also President Trump
stared down in a way that I don't know how
many people literally on the planet could do it. It's
right up and they're so United States before we were
literally somebody who came back in a non consecutive term
against all the law fair all the trying to bankrupt
his family. He stared at down and he's on the
other side of it. But you talk about like that
Liberation Day, we've been being ripped off for Michigan, Missouri,
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all these jobs that win other places thirty years ago,
ninety thousand factories because we had these trade deals that
were meant to prop up Europe they could rebuild themselves
after World War two, defeat Soviet communism. Saying with US
over subsidizing NATO. He's finally the first president said, you
know what, that may have worked then, but we're getting
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ripped off. We want to renegotiate these deals.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
We were one of those factories here.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm going to fight for the American people. So people
know intuitively understand he has their back. What they couldn't
understand from the previous administration is and people would ask
me this, how does an American president, okay, open up
our border like that where you don't know who's coming in.
There's twenty million people here, What is the allegiance to
our country?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Where is that?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And so no one ever questions that with Trump, And
I think that's one of the reasons why he's just
he's such a powerful figure.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Let's take it quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We had a factory in Michigan, and after the recession
in two thousand and eight, we just had.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
All our costs.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So many of our customers were like, you know what,
it's going to just be easier to go to Mexico
or go to China.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So many, I mean, we watched that in that season.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We watched the steel foundries across the country one after
another go out of business, and one of the greatest
ones in California, and we were actually shocked that it
had stayed open as long as it did. In California,
they'd had protest for years. It's just this ignorance of
the left to understand why it's important to have that
institutional knowledge to be able to manufacture on your own,
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and that to me is a crisis in and of itself.
We have so few people left that can go back
start these factories up and understand how to work in
these factories. And that's why what President Trump is doing
is critical now because that could one generation from now
that's lost if we don't do it now.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's right, and for our national security, we can't. We
cannot be reliant on China and other countries for the
stuff we need to build F fifteens like right, that's insane,
and we are in many ways or have been. It
won't happen overnight, But that's the kind of that that's
the sort of thing I think when people look back
on this era, you know, that's why I think President
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Trump's going to go down as one of our great
presidents of all time because of just the vision and
the connection. But but like I said, it didn't you know,
it was it was wild time in those four years
that Joe Biden was in office, and with COVID in particular,
you just saw people who never should have had the
authority that they had abused it in ways I couldn't
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have imagined in this country. I just I I if
you would have asked me five years ago, if I
thought that was possible in the United States, I would
have said no. It's interesting. I I met RFK. Junior
for the first time in Utah when I was Attorney General,
and he was familiar with the work that I was doing.
And he at the time, remember he was a Democrat
running for president going to run for president. But he
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thanked me for the work that we were doing. And
he was obviously out front on some of the COVID
restrictions too, and how ridiculous they were. But he reminded
me of this thing called the Milgrim experiment. So in
the fifties there yaled at this experiment where they had
a guy in a white coat, an actor white coat
and a clipboard looked like a doctor, and then on
the other side they had a paid actor on the
other side of the wall who would scream when you
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turned up this pain dial, and they would bring people
in and they would tell him to turn it up
even as they heard screams, and the screams got louder
and louder, and people pleading for help, and then they
would stop, sometimes like the person may have died. And
what the experiment showed was that when an authority figure
like that tells you to do something, a lot of
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people will do it. And that haunted me during COVID
because I just kept seeing things getting pushed further in.
You can't travel, you can't see a loved one die,
you can't be in the hospital as they're dying. You
couldn't you know all this. You couldn't go to a funeral,
you couldn't go to church. So the Left, if they
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ever get this kind of power, we know what they'll
do with it. In this book, Last Line Defense is
a playbook of what we can do to fight back
and win, but also recognize it and make sure it
never happens ever again.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So let me ask you about Adam Schiff and Letitia
James and this other woman from Michigan I can't remember
what her name is, all these people who are now
in this mortgage fraud situation where I keep hearing the
Left go.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
This is no big deal, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
How could you possibly And it's frustrating to me because
I think, my gosh, if I did that, they would
absolutely annihilate me over this. And they're acting like mortgage
fraud is no big deal, but it's a very obvious
mortgage fraud.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, they don't want the rules to ever apply to them.
And I think.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They know that they went for broke with Trump, like
they convinced them. And you can tie it all back
to the Russia Gates stuff. They made up stuff to
turn him into a Russian asset, to spy on him,
to prevent him from getting in the first place, then
to try to sideline an administration and thwart the wild
of people. I think there's indictments coming for that, I
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really do. I think there's a conspiracy charge that gets
you outside of the statute of limitations for people like
Brennan and Comy and Clapper. I think, and I hope
there should be indictments. What they did to this country
because they didn't like Trump and they wanted to get
Trump is crazy. Also one of the crazy historical quirks
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here tutor the FBI General Council at the time in
twenty sixteen during the Russia Gate, was the guy by
the name of James Baker Well guess who was the
General council of Twitter during the Hunter Biden laptop censorship
stuff in October and November of twenty twenty. James Baker.
So what the book gets in crazy? The book gets
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into this censorship enterprise. It wasn't just like one person.
So when we filed the lawsuit Missouri versus Biden, we
saw Jensaki, you know, saying, oh, we're flagging stuff or
Facebook and they were talking about a disinformation government's board
and what the hell is That sounds like a ministry
of truth. So we said, you know, there's enough here
to file a lawsuits. We filed a lawsuit. But instead
of getting the injunction first, which is typically what happens,
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and an injunction for your audience is you get the
government to stop doing something you don't want, or another
party to stop doing something immediately through a temporary restraining
order or something like that, we said, you know what
we were being charged with saying this was a conspiracy
theory or we were making stuff up, or which is
for attention seeking, So we want discovery first. The judge
granted us discovery and what we got was shocking, like
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the emails, the thousands of pages of communication between high
rank and government officials saying this comes from the top,
the very top of the White House. Take this down.
And they would take it down. They would threaten investigations.
But it wasn't like the CDC was involved. They were saying,
if these words are phrases or uttered, take it down.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Because it is so shocking.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
It is an agency called SISA, which is this cybersecurity agency.
They were involved, Like millions of voices were being silenced
or throttled or taken down or deplatformed in the town
in the modern day town square, which is virtual. So
this is our government that was doing it, and we
exposed it, and I just would It has shaped my
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view of a lot of things having seen what I've seen,
and in the book, I try to share that with
people because again, like you said earlier, you know, Republicans
are genuinely good, decent people who want to, you know,
provide for their families, raise their families. They don't view
government as such a central part of their life like
the left does. But I think that we have to
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be aware of what was going down and the courage
I think that it takes to stand up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And fight back.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I think that's why midterms are so challenging because the
average conservative, the average a Republican, it's like, you know what,
government's not that big of a deal. I'll vote for president.
I'm not going to come out every time because they
don't see government as a form of control.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But that's the left. The left is absolutely they are
boots on the ground. We got to get out there.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Mandami or all these people who are out there saying,
you know what, government's going to be everything, and they
are training.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
These kids to believe this.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, my daughter brought her home her history book
home the first day of school and she said, the
teacher said, and they go to a Christian school. She said,
the teacher said that he ordered this not knowing that
it was really anti Trump and that he knows parents
are going to be mad. But she said, apparently it's
anti Trump through the whole thing. I open it, just
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open it. The first page is Charlottesville, the whole thing,
and it's.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
All a lie.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And I'm like, how is this a history book? I mean,
this is really this is not ending. There's never a time,
there's never a year off for Republicans. There's never a
time to to.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Get to slouch and not go out and vote.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You have to be in every aspect of this because
the lies are so they know, they have the kids,
they have the teachers, they can get to you.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
They can stop.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The progress of conservatism, and they can also stop what
this country is and change it. And that's terrifying to me.
I want to ask you before you go. I want
to ask you about Saint Louis because we have obviously
a very similar situation in Detroit. I think Saint Louis
I think is fourth this year, but in the past
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we have competed for the number one spot as most
violent city in America.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
This year, dete fighting for the world in the World
Series than for that title, I think, right, we'd rather
have the Tigers play the Cardinals than that up for grabs.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yes, seriously, I mean it's it's so sad.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And Memphis has gotten in there, and Baltimore's gotten in there,
and there is and these are all controlled by Democrats.
These cities are all controlled by Democrats. And you see
what's happening in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What has it been like the change on the ground
there in safety and what has it been like to
see your colleagues freak out about the fact that Trump
is keeping people safe.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I think what this is. We talked about trade
and all the other stuff earlier. What President Trump is
doing is he's challenging all these assumptions that people have
had about problems are intractable, and what he's saying is,
we're not going to give up on violent crime in
some of the areas that have been affected by it
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the most Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right, look at what's happening.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I mean, carjackings are down eighty five percent, robberies are
down fifty percent. I mean, it's a presence and there's
just no substitute. And as a former prosecutor my lived experience,
there's just no substitute for a law enforcement presence and
prosecutions that follow. You can do all the other stuff
you want to do, and you can talk about it,
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you can use flowery language, and you can talk about
social work all this, and God knows the world needs
social workers. But if you want to solve violent crime,
you have to get the bad guys off the street
and you put them in jail. Okay, because there's a
subset of a subset of the worst who do a
lot of the really bad stuff, and once they're taken
out of the equation that helps, then other people see
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they've been taken out of the equation that helps. So
there's a deterrent effect. There's just the bad people are
off the streets. And quite frankly, the black communities in
Saint Louis and Detroit had been victimized the most. They're
the ones tired of cleaning up the glass on Sunday mornings,
and they want help, Like if you talk to real people,
they want help.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I've been in the neighborhoods.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
When I was ag we partnered with federal prosecutors because
we had a Soros prosecutor for a while she's gone.
We tried to basically help with federal prosecutions for gun crime.
So what's happening now is I think President Trump's changing
the dynamic. The Democrats somehow, some way toutor have figured
out a way to be on the wrong side of
another eighty twenty issue because they hate Trump. It's the
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same reason why Trump's going after illegal immigration. And they
find themselves down in El Salvador having Margarita's with an
MS thirteen gang member who beats his wife like.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
How do you how do you screw that up? But
they they can't help them.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
They don't think they screwed it up. They're still on
that on his side.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Why, I don't think they've hit rock bottom.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But one of the things that I've done and hopefully
becomes a model, we've worked with Cash Mattel, Saint Louis
is getting now the largest infusion of permanent FBI agents
to take on violent crime in the country. I'm not
going to give up on Saint Louis the crime issue.
It's a great it's a it's a like Detroit. These
are great American cities that deserve so much better. And
we just can't give up on him. And I think
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President Trump has this this this this desire to do it,
and he doesn't care if that you know, maybe eighty
twenty didn't vote for him, like he wants to fix it,
but you gotta want him to come in. I think
he's making that clear. Jabi Pritzker, I mean, shame on
a guy like that. These mayors that are just it's
not in the interest of their citizens, but they just
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have Trump arrangement syndrome so bad tutor that they can't
they can't help themselves.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
In Detroit, the mayor of Detroit we were having this
situation where houses were like these meth houses and they
would catch on fire or people would set them on
fire to try to get rid of them. So he
was like, you know what, we're going to go through
and we're going to tear down all the houses that
are in these communities.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
And he has.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
He prides himself on the fact that he has ripped
out all these homes in the city of Detroit. And
you know, they then they try to partner with this
group that's going to build a low income housing in
one of the towers there, and I just think of
you know the I mean, I grew up in the
suburbs of Chicago, so I'm like, okay, so we'll have
Cabrini Green in downtown Detroit. I just and now this guy, who,
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let me tell you, he has allowed they have reduced
the number of cops. He has allowed the crime to
continue on the streets. The ripping down people's homes did
not stop crime. I mean, that's the thing that blows
my mind. Just because the house is not there, The
crime is not gone. Jails are full, our prisons are
empty because nobody wants to give them the real sentence
they should have.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
So like you're to your point.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Once you get the few bad actors off the street,
then it frees up the other people to live a
normal life and not be controlled by these I mean, essentially,
it's like a bully in a school. You know, when
you have a gang member who leads everybody going. If
they're still there, they're going to continue to control the situation.
Instead of getting them off the streets, you destroyed the
history that was there. Now this guy wants to be governor.
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What is your response to something like that? But that
that's the thinking, is to go and wipe out the community,
I think.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And I start the book with the line in November
of twenty twenty four, the fever broke, and I believe
that on so many different levels, I think that fever
dream we were living, which also included it wasn't just
Biden's crazy administration that was coming after our freedoms or COVID.
It was this social unrest that the left, I mean,
(26:09):
you know, they were delivering bricks on pallets as soon
as the Sun went down like this network that was
one basically, I mean their desire is, if you study Marxism,
is to kind of untether people from the things that
hold them together, the nuclear family, church, you know, sort
of like community organizations that people you know, the Knights
(26:30):
of Columbus, stuff like that, and you replace it, and the.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Way you get there is chaos where people just they feel.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Very unsettled and they're looking for something, and then government,
which is effectively the religion, steps into the place of
all this stuff. So that's what they were doing. That's
what they were doing in the Summer of Love in
twenty twenty, and I think their high point was for them,
they had the attention and they got companies to do
a bunch of crazy stuff. But you saw a lot
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of law enforcement leave, take early retirement, or never get
into the profession in the first place.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So we're still digging out of that.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But the hope is I think that now that like
normal people are speaking out and saying, you know what
we want. We want a bigger police presence. Yeah, like
we actually want to take on violent crime, and our
communities deserve to feel safe. I think you're seeing a
people being re energized by that. But for the big
city mayors that still talk about defunding the police, but
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or maybe lose use language that's less direct than that, reimagining,
whatever the nonsense the term might be, they're just gonna
they're on the wrong side of history here. It's not complicated,
like you need more police officers and their presence on
the street really matters, and you go and arrest bad
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guys and then you prosecute them and put them away
for a long time. Like it's actually not it's not
twenty twenty anymore. Like we don't need to apologize for that.
That's just the truth. It's the truth. So we just
got to go do it. But I think there's more
men and women of courage that want to do that
and are willing to speak out about it. But you know,
a few years ago, you know, there were a lot
fewer people who are willing to say those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's fru sure.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know what the guy who stood and looked in
the face of all of these this law fair and
everything that you were talking about earlier, President Trump being
out there every day saying we're not going to stand
for this. That helps people stand up and I assume
that helps people in these states who are attorneys general
and prosecutors to say.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
You know what, we're just not going to do this anymore.
But I do think they should read your book.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So tell us again, give us all the details on
the book where you can get it all that.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, it's the last line of defense, how to Beat
the Left in Court. You can get it on Amazon
right now or anywhere that you buy your books. Yeah,
it's New York Times bestseller. We're excited about that. And
I think it's reaching a broad audience right now, which
is really important. It's a playbook of how we beat
the left in court, and it recounts all this crazy
time where we stood up and we fought back, and
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I hope that vies a roadmap for the future.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Absolutely, so go out and get it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Because there's this guy who is this just normal, common
sense guy that happens to be a senator and we're
so glad that you are. Senator Eric Schmid, thank you
so much for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Thanks too, Let's do it again.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Absolutely, and thank you all for listening to the podcast.
Make sure you go over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and join us
next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Have a blessed day,
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Every so often you
find somebody in Washington that seems like a really genuine, happy,
normal human being, and that seems to be the person
that I've found. So I have Senator Eric Schmidt with me.
Thank you so much, senator for joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Thanks Youuter.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey, I've been an admirer of yours from Afar And
by the way, the best compliment I ever get in
Washington is he seems so normal.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So I'll take it. I will take the normal tech.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was actually like going through all of your stuff
and I was like, okay, so he was this badass
attorney general and now he's a US senator and like,
what could he.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Really be like?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And here you are doing videos with your daughter and
talking about family, and I was like, I really like
this guy.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Oh that's nice to say, thank you, thanks, But.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I really like you for a few different reasons. And
one is because you did take on the Biden administration,
and here in Michigan, you know that just wasn't the case.
We didn't have anybody fighting back for us, and that's
what your book is all about. You have a new
book out, and to me, it's very important that people
understand that they have this kind of guideline as to
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how to to go after the left and court, because
they go after us all the time. It's called the
last line of defense, how to beat the left in court.
And I think that's critical at this juncture, because we
are at this point of wokeness where you can't have
a normal conversation.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You almost have to go to court.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well, that's why I wrote the book. I feel like
it's like a field manual for what it was like
to be on the front lines against this left wing
lawfare machine. And I think for too long conservatives have
seeded way too much territory in the courts because a
lot of the fights that we care about end up
there eventually anyway. And so before the job I have now,
(01:51):
which is in the Senate, I was the Attorney general
in Missouri and at a really crazy time, Tutor, as
your audience remembers, I think it is important torm. I mean,
this was a time of lockdowns, compulsory COVID shots, open borders,
DEI struggle sessions, CRT in our schools, and a censorship
regime that the Biden administration created that boggles the mind.
(02:14):
I mean it really is amazing. So this was a
crazy time, and so with the job that I had,
we just decided we were going to fight back. So
we took the student loan debt forgiveness case of the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
We won.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
We took the vaccine mandate case of the Supreme Court,
we won. We filed the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit that uncovered,
you know, before Elon Musket bought Twitter, before these Congression investigations,
for the first time uncovered this vast censorship enterprise where
all these agencies, along with big tech giants were aimed
at the American people because you know, you questioned the vaccine,
or you questioned masks, or you had a question about
(02:45):
the Hunter Biden laptop story. They were literally flagging this
stuff and going after individuals. And so I think the
lesson of the book is there is a playbook for
us now moving forward. And the book just hit the
New York Times bestseller list. As for a conservative book,
it's kind of a kind of a thing.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Congratulations, thanks, But I think I think your audience audience
will enjoy because it's it's not written for lawyers. I
hope lawyers read it, but it's really about, as everybody
was watching this, what was it like to take Anthony
Fauci's deposition, what was it like to take Elvis Chan's deposition?
All these like figures in this crazy story. We wanted
to share that with people. So Last Line Offense, How
(03:24):
to be the Left and Court. You can get it
anywhere right now and on Amazon too.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It's something that we've talked about so many times on
this podcast, whether it's with a woke school or somewhat
somebody that is shutting down your speech, and that's something
that I think we cannot forget. You make such a
great point when Elon Musk bought Twitter. I think some
of us were like, Okay, we're finally free. And then
the Republicans and the conservatives on our side a lot
(03:47):
of times it's like, once you've gotten past that hurdle,
you just move on. Because we are we're kind of
we're very positive. We move in a positive direction. But
it's important not to let history repeat itself because once
they get back in, they're constantly trying to shut us down.
And I even hear it even today. I hear them
saying things like you know, well they can't say this,
(04:09):
they can't say that. We've got to get them to
stop saying this. And they can't stand President Trump because
he stood up against this, and that's something was interesting.
I heard you say in one of your interviews that
after twenty twenty, when Joe Biden took office, there were
a lot of people that kind of just went back
into their holes and were like, you know, I don't
(04:30):
really want to say anything. And I saw this in
Michigan where Republicans were like, Okay, President Trump is not
in office anymore, and they kind of felt like he's done,
he's not coming back, and there's nobody that's going to
fight on behalf of President Trump anymore. And you said
I was kind of this unknown guy that came out
and kept fighting. And I have watched what you've done
(04:54):
since then, and I'm like, I think this kind of
unknown guy is going to do great.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, well, I you know, I've never written a book before,
but when when you do, there's a lot of reflection.
And in looking back now, I think my role was
to be that last line of defense, to kind of
hold the line until the cavalry arrived, right, which was
President Trump. And of course this huge win last November
when the fever broke, because it was a dark time
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and a lot of people were discouraged, and they brought
everything I mean the left had. I mean they were
working every angle. And I think that's what I try
to relate in the book too, is in that position
at that time, I saw this full landscape. I saw
it at the highest levels of government, and then in
local schools in a place like Missouri or a place
like Michigan. Right like that the coast sort of overlook
all the time. But how in the world does a
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superintendent in Springfield, Missouri become obsessed with, you know, the
the slide decks of teaching teachers and staff and other
members of the school district to divide the room by race.
It's well, they go to a conference and get you know,
they get indoctrinated, and then they think that's like their
toxic empathy, you know that they just like in there,
(06:06):
and we uncovered. We opened up one of the things
that I think you'll appreciate. We opened up a portal
for parents. During the mass debate and uh, we sued
like fifty plus school districts for their mass mandates, and
we wanted we were the only ones doing that at
the time, because I just felt like this is wrong.
There's no science to support five year olds being forced
to wear masks.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
All day long.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Like you were twice as likely to die of a
dog attack if you were a kid than of COVID.
Yet they were just they never wanted to stop, so
somebody had to step up and push back.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
We did.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But also, you know, you would just see example after example,
parents would would send us. We opened up a portal
for like, what's the crazy stuff that's going on in schools?
Kids were being forced to participate in privilege walks.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like yes, you know what I mean, this is something
we forgot.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And teachers, the unions have these these retreats, the superintendents,
the districts have retreats where teachers go and.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
They are told to apologize for their whiteness.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I mean, this is this has gotten to a point
where people are afraid to meet people of another race
because they're like, I don't know how they're going to
feel about me. This has created such a racism problem,
and not even I think, just a fear of connecting
with other people because like, I don't know how they're
going to take me it's better to just not connect
at all.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It's a terrible situation we're in well, and.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's this is what cultural Marxism is, which is every
room is divided by oppressor and oppressed.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's really the goal.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And then yes, what you got to hire a consultant
to teach you how to do that better. There's a
whole industry attached to it, and it's all based on division,
and it's all by the way, it's totally racist.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
All of this stuff is racist.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And it's interesting now in the Senate, I had Hemi Dylan,
who's head and leading the Civil Rights Division. If you're
doing the stuff, I'd be I'd be very concerned. If
you're a private company, you know, Coca Cola, we talk
about it in the book too, was having these sessions
up of literally how to be less white, I.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Mean in corporate America.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So this stuff is crazy and so but I do
think that the mainstream media never wanted to talk about it.
What you're doing with this kind of diffused ecosystem now
of information being diffused is really important because people people
get it now. I think they had a moment in
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time that it was they pushed as hard as they could,
and I think you're seeing a backlash. And I agree
with you on President Trump, I was. I was, I
think the first Senate endorseder, maybe the second when he
when he was running again. And one of the reasons
why is we talk about what you were talking about
reference about me at the beginning. But he's just an
authentic guy, Like there's no people the left and their
(08:49):
media allies, they've never really understood it, they can't stand it.
But he just connects. I think to my parents. I
grew up in a working class neighborhood. My dad works
seven days a week in the midnight shift. And I
remember when he came down the escalator the first time.
My dad was talking about do you see what he
said to see? And then did you see what you know?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He was connecting with how real people felt about stuff
that most politicians were totally totally talking over or they
had kind of disdained for.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know, right, he's not careful and that because he
doesn't think about being careful. He and and careful is
such an interesting word to use, because politicians are careful,
which is a kind way of saying they're not real.
They're not you don't know who they are, Yes, exactly,
And Donald Trump was like, you know what, I'm not
going to do that. And that's the beauty of But
(09:38):
it's so hard for a lot of people because one
of the benefits that he has is that he came out,
he was a known person, he came out with a
lot of support.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
He was out there for years as a public figure.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I think that it's kind of an interesting dynamic
because you see some people. I've even seen it on
the local level where some people have come out boisterous
and they tried to to be Trump Trump, Is Trump
be you. It's hard to get people now to be themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yes, no, that's right. They'll never be another one like him.
I was in the Rose Garden there really won't be.
I was in the Rose Garden for for Liberation Day
and he's talking about, you know, the renegotiating these trade deals,
and he was, you know, talking about how he was
right thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And all this, but he was right.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I turned to Jim Banks, who's sitting there, I go,
We're never going to see anything like this ever again.
Like this is so unique and it's such a special
moment in time. But like and the reason why I
wrote the book Last Line of Defense, How would beat
the Left? And court is man. There was a period
of time where that didn't seem like necessarily where we
would end up right, and it was because you know,
(10:43):
we were able to fight back. But also President Trump
stared down in a way that I don't know how
many people literally on the planet could do it. It's
right up and they're so United States before we were
literally somebody who came back in a non consecutive term
against all the law fair all the trying to bankrupt
his family. He stared at down and he's on the
other side of it. But you talk about like that
Liberation Day, we've been being ripped off for Michigan, Missouri,
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all these jobs that win other places thirty years ago,
ninety thousand factories because we had these trade deals that
were meant to prop up Europe they could rebuild themselves
after World War two, defeat Soviet communism. Saying with US
over subsidizing NATO. He's finally the first president said, you
know what, that may have worked then, but we're getting
(11:28):
ripped off. We want to renegotiate these deals.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
We were one of those factories here.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm going to fight for the American people. So people
know intuitively understand he has their back. What they couldn't
understand from the previous administration is and people would ask
me this, how does an American president, okay, open up
our border like that where you don't know who's coming in.
There's twenty million people here, What is the allegiance to
our country?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Where is that?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And so no one ever questions that with Trump, And
I think that's one of the reasons why he's just
he's such a powerful figure.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Let's take it quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
We had a factory in Michigan, and after the recession
in two thousand and eight, we just had.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
All our costs.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So many of our customers were like, you know what,
it's going to just be easier to go to Mexico
or go to China.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So many, I mean, we watched that in that season.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We watched the steel foundries across the country one after
another go out of business, and one of the greatest
ones in California, and we were actually shocked that it
had stayed open as long as it did. In California,
they'd had protest for years. It's just this ignorance of
the left to understand why it's important to have that
institutional knowledge to be able to manufacture on your own,
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and that to me is a crisis in and of itself.
We have so few people left that can go back
start these factories up and understand how to work in
these factories. And that's why what President Trump is doing
is critical now because that could one generation from now
that's lost if we don't do it now.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's right, and for our national security, we can't. We
cannot be reliant on China and other countries for the
stuff we need to build F fifteens like right, that's insane,
and we are in many ways or have been. It
won't happen overnight, But that's the kind of that that's
the sort of thing I think when people look back
on this era, you know, that's why I think President
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Trump's going to go down as one of our great
presidents of all time because of just the vision and
the connection. But but like I said, it didn't you know,
it was it was wild time in those four years
that Joe Biden was in office, and with COVID in particular,
you just saw people who never should have had the
authority that they had abused it in ways I couldn't
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have imagined in this country. I just I I if
you would have asked me five years ago, if I
thought that was possible in the United States, I would
have said no. It's interesting. I I met RFK. Junior
for the first time in Utah when I was Attorney General,
and he was familiar with the work that I was doing.
And he at the time, remember he was a Democrat
running for president going to run for president. But he
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thanked me for the work that we were doing. And
he was obviously out front on some of the COVID
restrictions too, and how ridiculous they were. But he reminded
me of this thing called the Milgrim experiment. So in
the fifties there yaled at this experiment where they had
a guy in a white coat, an actor white coat
and a clipboard looked like a doctor, and then on
the other side they had a paid actor on the
other side of the wall who would scream when you
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turned up this pain dial, and they would bring people
in and they would tell him to turn it up
even as they heard screams, and the screams got louder
and louder, and people pleading for help, and then they
would stop, sometimes like the person may have died. And
what the experiment showed was that when an authority figure
like that tells you to do something, a lot of
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people will do it. And that haunted me during COVID
because I just kept seeing things getting pushed further in.
You can't travel, you can't see a loved one die,
you can't be in the hospital as they're dying. You
couldn't you know all this. You couldn't go to a funeral,
you couldn't go to church. So the Left, if they
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ever get this kind of power, we know what they'll
do with it. In this book, Last Line Defense is
a playbook of what we can do to fight back
and win, but also recognize it and make sure it
never happens ever again.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So let me ask you about Adam Schiff and Letitia
James and this other woman from Michigan I can't remember
what her name is, all these people who are now
in this mortgage fraud situation where I keep hearing the
Left go.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
This is no big deal, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
How could you possibly And it's frustrating to me because
I think, my gosh, if I did that, they would
absolutely annihilate me over this. And they're acting like mortgage
fraud is no big deal, but it's a very obvious
mortgage fraud.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, they don't want the rules to ever apply to them.
And I think.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They know that they went for broke with Trump, like
they convinced them. And you can tie it all back
to the Russia Gates stuff. They made up stuff to
turn him into a Russian asset, to spy on him,
to prevent him from getting in the first place, then
to try to sideline an administration and thwart the wild
of people. I think there's indictments coming for that, I
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really do. I think there's a conspiracy charge that gets
you outside of the statute of limitations for people like
Brennan and Comy and Clapper. I think, and I hope
there should be indictments. What they did to this country
because they didn't like Trump and they wanted to get
Trump is crazy. Also one of the crazy historical quirks
(16:42):
here tutor the FBI General Council at the time in
twenty sixteen during the Russia Gate, was the guy by
the name of James Baker Well guess who was the
General council of Twitter during the Hunter Biden laptop censorship
stuff in October and November of twenty twenty. James Baker.
So what the book gets in crazy? The book gets
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into this censorship enterprise. It wasn't just like one person.
So when we filed the lawsuit Missouri versus Biden, we
saw Jensaki, you know, saying, oh, we're flagging stuff or
Facebook and they were talking about a disinformation government's board
and what the hell is That sounds like a ministry
of truth. So we said, you know, there's enough here
to file a lawsuits. We filed a lawsuit. But instead
of getting the injunction first, which is typically what happens,
(17:25):
and an injunction for your audience is you get the
government to stop doing something you don't want, or another
party to stop doing something immediately through a temporary restraining
order or something like that, we said, you know what
we were being charged with saying this was a conspiracy
theory or we were making stuff up, or which is
for attention seeking, So we want discovery first. The judge
granted us discovery and what we got was shocking, like
(17:45):
the emails, the thousands of pages of communication between high
rank and government officials saying this comes from the top,
the very top of the White House. Take this down.
And they would take it down. They would threaten investigations.
But it wasn't like the CDC was involved. They were saying,
if these words are phrases or uttered, take it down.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Because it is so shocking.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
It is an agency called SISA, which is this cybersecurity agency.
They were involved, Like millions of voices were being silenced
or throttled or taken down or deplatformed in the town
in the modern day town square, which is virtual. So
this is our government that was doing it, and we
exposed it, and I just would It has shaped my
(18:29):
view of a lot of things having seen what I've seen,
and in the book, I try to share that with
people because again, like you said earlier, you know, Republicans
are genuinely good, decent people who want to, you know,
provide for their families, raise their families. They don't view
government as such a central part of their life like
the left does. But I think that we have to
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be aware of what was going down and the courage
I think that it takes to stand up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And fight back.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I think that's why midterms are so challenging because the
average conservative, the average a Republican, it's like, you know what,
government's not that big of a deal. I'll vote for president.
I'm not going to come out every time because they
don't see government as a form of control.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
But that's the left. The left is absolutely they are
boots on the ground. We got to get out there.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Mandami or all these people who are out there saying,
you know what, government's going to be everything, and they
are training.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
These kids to believe this.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, my daughter brought her home her history book
home the first day of school and she said, the
teacher said, and they go to a Christian school. She said,
the teacher said that he ordered this not knowing that
it was really anti Trump and that he knows parents
are going to be mad. But she said, apparently it's
anti Trump through the whole thing. I open it, just
(19:44):
open it. The first page is Charlottesville, the whole thing,
and it's.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
All a lie.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And I'm like, how is this a history book? I mean,
this is really this is not ending. There's never a time,
there's never a year off for Republicans. There's never a
time to to.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Get to slouch and not go out and vote.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You have to be in every aspect of this because
the lies are so they know, they have the kids,
they have the teachers, they can get to you.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
They can stop.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The progress of conservatism, and they can also stop what
this country is and change it. And that's terrifying to me.
I want to ask you before you go. I want
to ask you about Saint Louis because we have obviously
a very similar situation in Detroit. I think Saint Louis
I think is fourth this year, but in the past
(20:32):
we have competed for the number one spot as most
violent city in America.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
This year, dete fighting for the world in the World
Series than for that title, I think, right, we'd rather
have the Tigers play the Cardinals than that up for grabs.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yes, seriously, I mean it's it's so sad.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And Memphis has gotten in there, and Baltimore's gotten in there,
and there is and these are all controlled by Democrats.
These cities are all controlled by Democrats. And you see
what's happening in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What has it been like the change on the ground
there in safety and what has it been like to
see your colleagues freak out about the fact that Trump
is keeping people safe.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I think what this is. We talked about trade
and all the other stuff earlier. What President Trump is
doing is he's challenging all these assumptions that people have
had about problems are intractable, and what he's saying is,
we're not going to give up on violent crime in
some of the areas that have been affected by it
(21:34):
the most Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right, look at what's happening.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I mean, carjackings are down eighty five percent, robberies are
down fifty percent. I mean, it's a presence and there's
just no substitute. And as a former prosecutor my lived experience,
there's just no substitute for a law enforcement presence and
prosecutions that follow. You can do all the other stuff
you want to do, and you can talk about it,
(21:57):
you can use flowery language, and you can talk about
social work all this, and God knows the world needs
social workers. But if you want to solve violent crime,
you have to get the bad guys off the street
and you put them in jail. Okay, because there's a
subset of a subset of the worst who do a
lot of the really bad stuff, and once they're taken
out of the equation that helps, then other people see
(22:17):
they've been taken out of the equation that helps. So
there's a deterrent effect. There's just the bad people are
off the streets. And quite frankly, the black communities in
Saint Louis and Detroit had been victimized the most. They're
the ones tired of cleaning up the glass on Sunday mornings,
and they want help, Like if you talk to real people,
they want help.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I've been in the neighborhoods.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
When I was ag we partnered with federal prosecutors because
we had a Soros prosecutor for a while she's gone.
We tried to basically help with federal prosecutions for gun crime.
So what's happening now is I think President Trump's changing
the dynamic. The Democrats somehow, some way toutor have figured
out a way to be on the wrong side of
another eighty twenty issue because they hate Trump. It's the
(22:58):
same reason why Trump's going after illegal immigration. And they
find themselves down in El Salvador having Margarita's with an
MS thirteen gang member who beats his wife like.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
How do you how do you screw that up? But
they they can't help them.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
They don't think they screwed it up. They're still on
that on his side.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Why, I don't think they've hit rock bottom.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But one of the things that I've done and hopefully
becomes a model, we've worked with Cash Mattel, Saint Louis
is getting now the largest infusion of permanent FBI agents
to take on violent crime in the country. I'm not
going to give up on Saint Louis the crime issue.
It's a great it's a it's a like Detroit. These
are great American cities that deserve so much better. And
we just can't give up on him. And I think
(23:35):
President Trump has this this this this desire to do it,
and he doesn't care if that you know, maybe eighty
twenty didn't vote for him, like he wants to fix it,
but you gotta want him to come in. I think
he's making that clear. Jabi Pritzker, I mean, shame on
a guy like that. These mayors that are just it's
not in the interest of their citizens, but they just
(23:57):
have Trump arrangement syndrome so bad tutor that they can't
they can't help themselves.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
In Detroit, the mayor of Detroit we were having this
situation where houses were like these meth houses and they
would catch on fire or people would set them on
fire to try to get rid of them. So he
was like, you know what, we're going to go through
and we're going to tear down all the houses that
are in these communities.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
And he has.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
He prides himself on the fact that he has ripped
out all these homes in the city of Detroit. And
you know, they then they try to partner with this
group that's going to build a low income housing in
one of the towers there, and I just think of
you know the I mean, I grew up in the
suburbs of Chicago, so I'm like, okay, so we'll have
Cabrini Green in downtown Detroit. I just and now this guy, who,
(24:56):
let me tell you, he has allowed they have reduced
the number of cops. He has allowed the crime to
continue on the streets. The ripping down people's homes did
not stop crime. I mean, that's the thing that blows
my mind. Just because the house is not there, The
crime is not gone. Jails are full, our prisons are
empty because nobody wants to give them the real sentence
they should have.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
So like you're to your point.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Once you get the few bad actors off the street,
then it frees up the other people to live a
normal life and not be controlled by these I mean, essentially,
it's like a bully in a school. You know, when
you have a gang member who leads everybody going. If
they're still there, they're going to continue to control the situation.
Instead of getting them off the streets, you destroyed the
history that was there. Now this guy wants to be governor.
(25:40):
What is your response to something like that? But that
that's the thinking, is to go and wipe out the community,
I think.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And I start the book with the line in November
of twenty twenty four, the fever broke, and I believe
that on so many different levels, I think that fever
dream we were living, which also included it wasn't just
Biden's crazy administration that was coming after our freedoms or COVID.
It was this social unrest that the left, I mean,
(26:09):
you know, they were delivering bricks on pallets as soon
as the Sun went down like this network that was
one basically, I mean their desire is, if you study Marxism,
is to kind of untether people from the things that
hold them together, the nuclear family, church, you know, sort
of like community organizations that people you know, the Knights
(26:30):
of Columbus, stuff like that, and you replace it, and the.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Way you get there is chaos where people just they feel.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Very unsettled and they're looking for something, and then government,
which is effectively the religion, steps into the place of
all this stuff. So that's what they were doing. That's
what they were doing in the Summer of Love in
twenty twenty, and I think their high point was for them,
they had the attention and they got companies to do
a bunch of crazy stuff. But you saw a lot
(26:57):
of law enforcement leave, take early retirement, or never get
into the profession in the first place.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
So we're still digging out of that.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But the hope is I think that now that like
normal people are speaking out and saying, you know what
we want. We want a bigger police presence. Yeah, like
we actually want to take on violent crime, and our
communities deserve to feel safe. I think you're seeing a
people being re energized by that. But for the big
city mayors that still talk about defunding the police, but
(27:26):
or maybe lose use language that's less direct than that, reimagining,
whatever the nonsense the term might be, they're just gonna
they're on the wrong side of history here. It's not complicated,
like you need more police officers and their presence on
the street really matters, and you go and arrest bad
(27:48):
guys and then you prosecute them and put them away
for a long time. Like it's actually not it's not
twenty twenty anymore. Like we don't need to apologize for that.
That's just the truth. It's the truth. So we just
got to go do it. But I think there's more
men and women of courage that want to do that
and are willing to speak out about it. But you know,
a few years ago, you know, there were a lot
fewer people who are willing to say those kind of things.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's fru sure.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
You know what the guy who stood and looked in
the face of all of these this law fair and
everything that you were talking about earlier, President Trump being
out there every day saying we're not going to stand
for this. That helps people stand up and I assume
that helps people in these states who are attorneys general
and prosecutors to say.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
You know what, we're just not going to do this anymore.
But I do think they should read your book.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So tell us again, give us all the details on
the book where you can get it all that.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, it's the last line of defense, how to Beat
the Left in Court. You can get it on Amazon
right now or anywhere that you buy your books. Yeah,
it's New York Times bestseller. We're excited about that. And
I think it's reaching a broad audience right now, which
is really important. It's a playbook of how we beat
the left in court, and it recounts all this crazy
time where we stood up and we fought back, and
(28:58):
I hope that vies a roadmap for the future.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Absolutely, so go out and get it.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Because there's this guy who is this just normal, common
sense guy that happens to be a senator and we're
so glad that you are. Senator Eric Schmid, thank you
so much for being on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Thanks too, Let's do it again.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Absolutely, and thank you all for listening to the podcast.
Make sure you go over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and join us
next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Have a blessed day,
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