September 18, 2024 • 45 mins
In this episode, Tudor, Kyle, and Sara discuss Kamala Harris's recent appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) event. They critique Harris's evasive responses to questions about her policies and past actions, contrasting her treatment by the media with that of former President Donald Trump. The conversation highlights concerns about media bias, political double standards, and the implications for democracy. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Kyle Olsen
and Sarah Broadwater with me today. We wanted to talk
about this whole what is it an NABJ, the National
Association of Black Journalists, That is correct. So Kamala went there.
You probably remember Trump went there. It was not so friendly.
I would say it was very friendly when Kamala went
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there yesterday, extraordinarily friendly. And so that's why I wanted
to talk about it because I think, you know, aside
from that, she has no plan, no plan, and it
was shocking to me that she couldn't talk about anything again.
She went to the whole I think three times during
the whole town hall event. She started in on the whole.
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I was raised middle class, and I know what it's
like to live middle class. But she still didn't answer
any of the questions. And there were some very specific
ones that she didn't answer that I wanted to get to.
But I know you were talking about, Sarah, how different
the beginning was. Yeah, right off the bat, I mean,
if you remember, Trump's was running late by like an
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hour if not more. They had all those technical difficulties,
even the way they spaced them on the stage. If
you remember, it was like the sprawling stage and they
were all like six feet apart from each other, seated
as if no one could possibly be near him. And
they started it off. So this, I mean, i'll read
off a paraphrase of the question how they started it.
They just said, appreciate you being here. We want to
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address the elephant in the room. A lot of people
did not think it was appropriate for you to be here.
You've pushed false claims about former rivals, from Nicki Haley
to Obama, saying they weren't born in the US. You've
told congresswomen of color to go back to where they
came from. You attack black journalists, calling them a loser,
saying their questions are stupid and racist. And you've had
dinner with a white supremacist. Now you're asking voters to
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vote for you. Why should black voters trust you when
you use language like that. And of course Trump was like, WHOA, Well,
that was the nastiest introduction I've ever gotten. He didn't
like it, and they and I think that's the intention
is to immediately throw him off. I mean, that's what
their game is, to immediately throw him off. But this
goes This is such a much bigger thing because they're
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testing with him. They're going to go forward, but I'll
let you go on. You're right, because that was Kamala's
strategy during the debate, rile him up over crowd size.
Whereas Kamala came in and they were in this very
intimate seating area where they were probably two feet apart
from each other, quite honestly, much smaller stage. They were
all buddies.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
They came out said, thank you so much for the time.
It's a busy time. We want to start on an
issue that Americans say is the number one concern, and
that's the economy. Our voters better off now than they
were four years ago. I mean, so she gets an
issue focused question, no dialogue beforehand in an attack that.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Was the same thing in the debate. Everything that they
go into her was issues. They went to him with,
how do you explain this about you and some culture
issue that he we can some how tie you to,
and nothing about why he would what he would do
as president, nothing about why he wanted to go back
to the job. I mean, this is the frustrating thing.
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And I was thinking about this on the way here
as we were discussing talking about this today, and I
was like, you know, now, if you say something when
you're on on the trail and you're joking, they will
cut it and destroy you. Like it doesn't matter if
you're just if you are just making a joke about something,
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they want to nothing. You can't be funny, you can't
you can't try to like become friends with the audience.
They will destroy you, and they will take everything you
say and they'll cut it too. They won't tell the
full context. I mean I can't tell you. Well, you
guys know how many times during the campaign, but for
you guys listening, there were times when we said something
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and they would just cut the end of it. I mean,
much like the Charlottesville thing that it has now taken
what eight years for Snoops to finally come out and say, actually,
that's not what he said. And it's the same we
go through multiple times during the campaign that this happened
to me. But how do you fight back against that?
And I'm not kidding about it. I mean I look
at it and I'm like, this is disgusting. Now. I
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see Republicans and I've seen this the last two times
we've gone and spoken someplace and it just struck me
a few minutes ago. I see them like fumbling through
their notes and they're reading things directly from they've product
prepared speech. Then they're reading and they're struggling and they're
not connecting with the audience, and it's uncomfortable and it
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doesn't feel like that retail politics feel where you can
go out and like actually like tell people this is
what I want to do, because they're so afraid of
saying something that will be misconstrued and cut and weaponized
against them.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I think that's that's been one of Trump's weaknesses maybe,
is that he often is he's joky, he's sarcastic, he exaggerates,
and then and he's saying in sort of a funny
kind of way, you know, playing to the crowd. But
then the media takes it very literally, and so he'll
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he'll say, you know, I we had fifty thousand people.
And he's a lot of times I think he's sort
of you know, being he's inflating things for you know,
dramatic effect, but the media takes them very literally and
they'll say, oh, no, he had forty eight thousand people,
not fifty thousand. And and I think that's what sort
of led to a lot of people being very cynical
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about the media. But her the first question that she
was that Kamala was asked was about, you know, are
you better off than you were four years ago? And
you know she's Her answer was about, you know, prices
are still too high and we need to do something
about that. Of course nobody says, well large, you know,
aren't aren't the Biden Harris policies to blame for that?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
She actually couldn't say that they were better off, like
she doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
She she made up a lot of things about like, oh,
there's there's more black entrepreneurs and there's more or there's
less black unemployment. Okay, but still that wasn't that's not
the answer to that question. I know politicians play that game,
but that doesn't mean those people are better off because
a lot of those people that have started their own
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businesses are being crushed by the prices of things right
now and gas prices everything.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But her response was I'm a new generation of leadership,
that was her response.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But that's so rising for some reason. I mean, that's
the discuss because because no one can you imagine if
Trump said that people like, what you have to explain
that what you know you've been If if it were
flipped and Trump were with Biden and now he were running,
they would go, You're not a new generation. You came
out of this administration. You created this. No one holds
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her accountable to anything. And I you know, people keep saying, oh,
she's trained, she's Obama, and she says, I don't think
that she acts has any idea what she's doing. I
think that she was a trained prosecutor. And I think
being a prosecutor is way different than being a chief executive,
Totally different things, because I think as a prosecutor, you
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study one case. You are you're pouring your brain into
one thing for weeks on end, and you're going in
and you're creating the argument and you follow the argument.
And she, as you can see, she can follow the argument.
I mean, what she answered at the debate then when
she went and sat with that guy in Philadelphia was
the same answer. She's like, oh, she memorized the argument,
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but she has no depth beyond that. And I want
to play something that's kind of long, but I want
to play it because I think that this is very
telling about Washington today and I have to find it here,
but this, to me is very telling about what actually
goes on in the Senate as compared to the White House,
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and yet another reason why she actually has no idea
what she's doing when it comes to going to the
White House and what that will look like.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yes, so I feel compelled to say that about her
on the issue.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh wait, before I play this, I want you to
understand that they are asking her about whether or not
she will support reparations. She co sponsored a bill when
she was in the Senate for reparations. So she co
sponsored this bill and this bill. You know, they've reintroduced
this multiple times different ways. This is something she co sponsored.
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It like this was something that supposedly she wanted. And
this is her response. Again, if you notice in these answers,
her response is always to not respond at first. And
that's a tactic, just so you are knowing at home,
that's to not respond at first is a tactic to
get your thoughts together while you're coming up with some
blonney thing to.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Say as president, take exec of action to create this commission,
or do you believe the issue happened in Congress?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, first, of all, I just as you mentioned Sheila Jacksonally,
she was an extraordinarily.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Here it is this is where you don't answer.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And she was a friend and a real champion for
so many issues. So I feel compelled to say that
about her on the issue of what we need to
do going forward. Look, first of all, we just need
to speak truth about history and just of.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The process, because she doesn't even say on the issue
of reparations, on the issue of what we need to
do going forward and try and teach our children.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Otherwise, we need to speak truth about the generational impact
of our history, in terms of the generational impact of slavery,
the generational impact of redlining, of Jill Crowlog. I could
go on and on and on. These are facts have
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had impact, and we need to speak truth about it,
and we need to speak truth about it in a
way that it's about driving solutions, and frankly, I think
that we you know, and part of that is studying
it to figure out exactly what we need to do.
But part of what we can do right now is,
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for example, what I'm talking about in terms of building
an opportunity economy, which is addressing explicitly the obstacles that
historically and currently exist and dealing with them student medical
dat bias, and home appraisals. What we need to do
in terms of dealing with an issue that I have
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championed for years.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Black maternal mortality, which is.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The fact that Black women are three to four times
more likely to die in connection with childbird than other women.
And we know that the reasons for that include disparities
that pre exist her pregnancy, including disparities that exist in
the system during her pregnancy. So all of those things.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Must be addressed.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Do you have a position on whether that should happen,
This commission should happen through executive order or via Congress.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think Congress ultimately will have the ability to do
this work.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, So for me, this is very fascinating because as
we've watched what's happened in Washington. You've got her. She
introduced the bill on reparations. She didn't talk about what
the bill was, she didn't talk about what they were
asking for in that bill. She's being specifically asked about
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her own bill, and she starts, like I said, she
gets the she's got the argument down. She's arguing about
maternal mortality rates. And all of the and mortgages and
all that, and the and these are young kids that
are asking her this question, these very young kids, and
they say, tell us, will you do it?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Though?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Will you do this by executive order? And she throws
it right back to I think it has to happen
in Congress. So wait a minute, this was so important
to you, you sponsored the spill. The thing is it
wasn't important to her. It was important to get votes,
that was it. Now that she has the ability to
do it, she knows it's not going to make sense.
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She'll never do it. She will never do what she
claimed she fought for when she was in the Senate.
She will never do it in the White House.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know that I think anything is important to
her other than the title. But to your point in
that interviewer or her response back, she I kind of
think her strategy is genuinely to make no news. She
confuses you by throwing out as many buzzwords and keywords
as possible. She doesn't actually take a stance on anything.
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She like weaves through this tail. But there's really nothing
to report on other than the fact that like she
didn't answer the question. But none of those reporters are
going to actually say that about her because they're so
in the bag for her, But she doesn't say anything
that's alarming, so there's really nothing to actually talk about.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, so there's not going to be news that's going
to go back to the black community saying she's she
told you this lie and now she's not going to
do anything because they're not going to call her out,
and there's not going to be news on the other
side saying if she has agreed to some massive reparations plan,
because she didn't agree to anything she.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Commits to nothing like when she talks about she's a
new generally when I can't even speak generational leader, and
then she proceeds to say nothing about how she doesn't
dispute one policy area of Biden.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Opportunity economy is her big thing. I want to build
an opportunity economy. And people have asked her what is
an opportunity economy and she said, I want it to
be that we have everybody can be, have enough available
to them that they can and all if they work hard,
have an opportunity. What does that even mean? And honestly,
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that one actually scares me because I do believe that
she is a redistribution of wealth type of person. And
I do believe that that is what an opportunity economy is.
It is taking money from the wealthy and distributing distributing
it to everyone. But it's not even we're not even
questioning that because she says, I am gonna give twenty
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five thousand dollars to people who need to buy a home,
first time home buyers. Well, okay, but how do you
know they're going to be able to keep up on
the payments? Like what is the program behind that? And
give me a break. If I had said that, I
would be ripped apard. People go, where are you going
to get the money? How are you gonna how are
you gonna vet the people? How are you going to
know that they can pay their mortgage payments? Where are
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they going to buy the houses?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What are you thinking? The girl? I'll give her credit.
She pushed back on her, and she said, okay, but
for all of us who either already own a house
or not trying to own a house, like life is hurting,
what are you going to do for us? And she's like,
I'm going to let you start start your own business
because I'm going to give you fifty thousand dollars. There
it's like just I'm going to give you, I'm going
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to give you. I'm going to give you. That's that's
not realistic, but.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
That that's the that's the difference between the parties, really
the Democrats. And it's not just Biden and Harris, It's Clinton,
it's Obama, it's governors. It's it's always here's what's government.
Here's what government is going to do for you. And
it's always taking in tax dollars and giving them out
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to the people that they need to win votes from.
And I would say about the reparations bill or any
any other pretty much any other bill that is in
the federal Congress or state legislatures, how many pieces of
legislation are just sort of kicking up dust to get
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to put to be able to put out of press release,
to do a selfie video for Twitter, for you know,
to be able to go on cable news and talk
about it, and they go nowhere, they don't actually accomplish anything.
And so here here is a good example of when
she was a legislator, she had this bill because she
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wanted to probably go on MSNBC and talk about it
with Rachel Maddow or joy read and enjoy read. But
it doesn't actually accomplish anything. But when she has the
power or potentially has the power to do something about it,
to actually do it, she flinches and she doesn't want
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to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And as I was watching through these clips, you know,
there's a lot of these sorts of appearances where you know,
there's the clip can be fifteen seconds and it says
what really, you know, sort of captures it. That clip
was three minutes, but that she just rambles. Yes, she
just rambles on and on, and there's no easy way
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to sort of say, Okay, this is really what she meant,
because she just rambles on and on.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But I do not believe that it is just a strategy.
I think it is really there's nothing behind the door there.
It grew, it's nothing in there to negotiate with. Because
I think that she was lifted up by the people
around her to become a senator. She became the attorney general,
then she moved on to become a senator. And I
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do think that this, I mean in business, it's possible,
and in politics it's possible that if you have the
right supporters, you are ushered through. And especially on the
Democrat side, I mean, look at what has happened with
Gretchen Whitmer in this state. Look at Alissa Slotkin. She
is being lifted up by all of them, and she's
not even having to really campaign. You know, they are
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lifting people through. And I fully believe that she met
she checked the boxes that they wanted in California, and
they pushed her through. But that lifestyle gets addicting to
these people, and they have a staff and they get
to they get to have a very pampered life as
a senator, and I think that she's not only been
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used to that, but she's been used to lying to
people to get more. She's been used to just and
in the Senate, I think you can get away with
it because you're one of many. You know, nobody is
coming back to you and saying you promised me this,
because you just go, oh, well, you know, I couldn't
get that bill passed. And you can write a bill.
You can have your staff write a bill, and then
you can be like, I made this bill and everything
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is great, then you can campaign on that and people
can have a lifelong career. She moved out of the
Senate because she became the vice president, and now she
thinks she's going to become president, and quite possibly, with
this nasty media, with these constant attacks on Trump, quite
possibly she will become the president. And there there is
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nothing behind the door.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's like when you study for a test and you
only know the answers, but you have no critical thinking
beyond it. Yes, that is commonly har She gets the
briefing sheet, she studies, what, she memorizes what she's supposed
to say, but then when she's asked a question that
slightly off killed her from that, she's like, oh, but
I think the big danger here is that she's used
to putting things through.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
To impress people. And in the past it was okay
because she could do it and it wouldn't pass. But
now she's going to be pressured into executive orders, she's
going to be pressured into bigger government, she's going to
be pressured into using taxes in manipulative ways. And I
mean she's out there talking about, you know, I'm glad
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we'd got rid of these we ban these bombs for
Israel and all this stuff. You know, she could be
convinced to do anything. I fully believe, because I don't
think she has the critical thinking skills. I think, and
it's not for any other reason other than that she's
proving that on a daily basis. Every time she talks,
she's proven that she does not think beyond what someone
has written down for her, what they've discussed as her
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talking points. And so I look at this and think,
my gosh, what could happened with her city, not only
what she could do to permanently change our government, but
sitting across the aisle or sitting across the table from
a Putin? Can you imagine this kind of gibberish like
the translators like, it's the same word again, it's the same.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Word we saw. Was it ten days ago or something?
We saw Reagan And there was a there was a
scene in the situation room where it was very chaotic
and was you know, Soviet Union firing missiles and do
we need to respond? And everyone's like, you know, wetting
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their pants. And after that, I thought to myself, what
would she do in that situation?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And Reagan was very and I know it was a movie,
but it was probably similar to real life. But he
was very calm. He was, you know, assessing the situation.
He was getting you know, input and whatever. She I
can't even imagine what she would be doing in that
kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's funny because earlier they were talking I don't remember
which program I was watching. They were talking about, you know,
Donald Trump, when he's shot at, he's like the calmest
man in the world for some reason. Now, obviously sometimes
the small things get to him more than they should,
but they were discussing how it's kind of a very
true sign of a leader in like the most chaotic
times that he could literally be shot at and he's
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the calmest he's ever been. She's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean there were times when she was getting
teary eyed during this conversation with the black journalists, which
I think in some cases you can understand. But if
you're running for president, I mean, you better have a
darn good reason to get tie eyed and emotional with
the press, because I just think that that screams weakness
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if you're sitting there and crying over this or that.
But we didn't even get to the assassination attempt, and
that to me is here we are again in this situation,
and we can argue back. Everybody's arguing like, oh, did
he have enough protection? Did he not have enough protection?
The problem is why does it keep happening? You know,
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this guy, he was on the radar, all of that.
It's fair, there's got to be so many people on
the radar. But there is a true narrative from the left.
And they didn't even pause this time, not even a
pause from the he's a threat, you've got well you
said you Hillary Clinton's out there and the next day
saying it.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, she was saying that there should be there should
be penalties, potentially criminal penalties for people who post misinformation
however that's described or identified or defined on social media.
And then it just it's a it's a it's a
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crazy time. And there was at the White House briefing
Peter Doocey from Fox was you know, basically he was
challenging KJP about sort of the rhetoric that comes from
the White House and how Donald Trump is a threat
in all of that. In one of the.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
People can hear what.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again, and
you're here at the podium in the White House briefing
room calling him a threat. How any more assassination attempts
on Donald Trump until president and the vice president, and
you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Peter, if anything from this administration, I actually completely disagree
with the premise of your question. The question that you're asking.
It is also incredibly dangerous in the way that you're
asking it because American people watching. And to say that,
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to say that from an administration who has consistently condemned
political violence, from an administration where the president called the
former president and was thankful, grateful that he was okay,
from an administration who has called out January sixth, called
out the attack of Paul Pelosi, called out and said
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we need to lower the temperature.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean, that's the gas lighting you get.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But there was another angle of that, and it showed
the whole press room, and while Peter Deucy was asking
that question, the look on is that Jeff Mason, he
used was a reporter, he used to be the head
of the White House Press Association or whatever it's called.
I don't know who he's with, but The look on
his face was like he was so annoyed. He practically
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was rolling his eyes like this is a ridiculous question.
And but this, this is where we're at and so,
and then there is the clip of Tim Walls on
was at MSNBC where he was you know there.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, they have this, They have this attitude that their
definite if if you don't meet their definition definition of misinformation,
you should be held liable for that.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This is him, This is him to push back on this.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
There there's no guarantee of free speech on misinformation or
or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But who gets to define misinformation? Is it Kamala Harris?
Is it Tim Walls who's an agent of the CCP?
Who gets to define that?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
No? I think this is the scary thing that's happening
now because I said to you guys on Friday night,
they came up to us and when they were asking
a Friday night, we hit this tone hall in where
are we Farmington House? And we had Vivek there and
Alena Habba on, some local people from the state when
we're a congressman and state senator and some people were
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asking about the election and how could we ensure that
the election would be fair. And then the press came
up afterward and one of the guys from the press said,
do you believe that there should be legal consequences for
misinformation about the election? And I'm like, here it is,
this is the beginning, because there already are if you
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try to tell people to go vote the next day
or something. You know, if you are blatantly trying to
get people to not or suppress the vote, there already
are consequences. But that's not what they're talking about. They're
talking about if you so much as openly question the government,
like if somebody comes out and says, well, what did
we have. We had that story recently where the woman
said they changed the polling places and she said, you
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used to vote here, And she was like, you used
to vote here, and now you're supposed to vote here.
And she said, I believe that this was done without
the sixty days notice. Okay, but that didn't suppress the vote.
And that was her opinion, and she the Attorney general
from Michigan threatened criminal criminal prosecution if she did not
take that post down.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, it was a situation where she was she was complaining,
I guess that they changed the polling locations within a
window when they were not supposed to be changed. So
she was not saying, go to the original place and
that's where you're supposed to vote. She was just she
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was stating her opinion that they broke the law by
changing changing the locations too close to the election. It
was her opinion, and she was reinforcing where the new
location is. But she still got a threatening letter. And
so this is the this is the slippery slope that
apparently we're going to go down now, where if you
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are stating things that are against the regime, then there
could be civil or criminal consequences for you.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, then, I think the funny part about that Tim
Walls post. I found that because Kat Tim posted it,
and she was like, this is legitimately misinformation because he's
saying there is no protection, legal protection if you are
stating misinformation. It's like, yeah, there is this guy wants
to be vice president of the United States and he
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doesn't believe in the First Amendment. I mean, this is
pretty tragic stuff and terrifying.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well that's I mean, that's isn't that the China way?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I ill, but that's not the American way, and I
know that I know that I don't think he wants
the America.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
He's not for America.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Right, And that to me is very, very scary that
these people are this close to taking over the government
in this country when they will come to your house
based on your posts on the internet. I mean, remember
in twenty twenty, people were freaked out because they had
people coming to their house and or canceling, not coming
(29:01):
to their house, canceling them, and they were getting deleted
from Facebook, they were getting deleted from Twitter. They felt
like conservatives couldn't have a voice if you said something
that the I mean essentially that the White House didn't
like they deleted you. And we know they did because
we now know that with the Twitter files, we know
that they actually deleted people from the Internet. It's going
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to go beyond that. This new regime that wants to
come in, they want you arrested, they want you imprisoned.
I mean, look at how Hillary Clinton talks about Donald Trump.
She wants him eliminated. There is a reason people are
so adamant that he has to have he has to
be taken out for good, because they've been told that
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Speaker 2 (31:20):
Greg Gottfeld always makes the point I think I've said
it on here before is if you tell someone over
and over and over again that Donald Trump or whoever
it is, is Hitler, who most people think is the
worst people person in the world, you are going to
try to eliminate Hitler. So when you brainwash people into
believing that he is this scum of the earth, what
else do you expect.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's why you bring up Hitler. That's why I thought
it was so strange that I thought it was so
strange that all of these people who think is Hitler?
Why did they Why were they so relieved that he
was alive after the first assassination attempt. I think a
lot of what I do is just is just rhetoric
(32:02):
and nonsense. But the problem, of course, is that they're
the ones in power who can actually ruin your life.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I don't think they're genuinely relieved, though. I think they're like, no,
come out and say that what they yeah? Right? If
they're saying he's such a terrible threat, why are they
so glad? Right? Which is hard?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Which way is it? What do you want?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Hillary Clinton is like, why do they continue to give
her microphone?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Well, she has a new book coming out, she has
a new face.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You write a book, she did get a new face
to it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
It's a filter or something.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
No, even her real face looks different. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
All I know is that earlier today she was promoting
her book in an article and she was talking about
how she named her postmenopausal belly. I can't remember the no,
but she named it gross me. That was Hillary's own words,
not mine.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That could have been our president. Yeah, we could add
two presidents.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But the but to me, the fact I'll move beyond
the belly. But the fact that she is hysterical on
MSNBC and saying things you know about the deplorables, saying,
you know, things that she disagrees with, the fact that
she is out there, and there's reporters in Michigan that are,
(33:28):
you know, hysterical on social media. Says to me that
it's very close or they're losing.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's true. I mean they and I do think that
they fear every time Kamalin goes out because I think
people are catching on that she doesn't have there's nothing
beyond the door, like you're going to peek inside and
it's just going to be air and and then you
and the problem with that is that's what we already have.
And so then you're really wondering who is running the government,
(33:58):
like who is coming in and running the government and
what kind of damage will they actually do? Because what
are you? Why are you making that fir?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I just I thought you're going to keep talking about
the empty or empty headedness.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's just there. What else could there want? More can
you say about that? I don't know, clouds, maybe there
are no file folders to go through and this is
not inside out for not pulling out the emotions.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I never saw that.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Well, it's probably not a bad thing anyway. I do
think that we're what we're seeing right now when they
say threat to democracy what we're I'm actually can't even
believe that the other side who are all chanting threat
to democracy aren't seeing what they're actually doing. And that
(34:45):
to me is the most horrifying part about this is
that they are using so many tactics. The media, the
weaponization of government, the you know, silencing of conservatives, the
way word questions everything is, and this thing where they
won't take RFK off the ballot. I mean, no matter
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where we look, these people are trying to manipulate the election,
which is what, let's all say it together, a threat
to democracy if you manipulate the election for your benefit,
and that the idea that you have to like go
in and fill in ballots, which I you know, question
why we can't take RFK off the ballot as it is?
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I'm like, are their ballots sitting there already fell out somewhere?
I mean, won't why won't you take him off? But
the fact that we have to talk about this, people
think that that's what a threat to democracy is. They
are threatening it in so many ways, and that's what
I think people in twenty twenty when they were like,
well do you think that the election was fair. It's like,
(35:53):
give me a break. These people manipulated his entire presidency
with this propaganda media. They mess with his entire presidency.
I don't think his I don't think his presidency was fair.
I want to go back to what you're talking about, though,
with a threat to democracy, and they just when Kamala
was answering questions or when she's on the campaign triol,
(36:16):
she talks about how every group is under threat, every
group is under attack. Is nobody safe in Biden's America?
I mean, that's what I don't understand. You guys are
running the show right now. Is no one safe under
your leadership? Because that's how they make it seem.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
There's a getting raped. There's Yeah, there's that group in
Michigan that is running the ad where that says it's
it's young girls. Wouldn't you say it's probably early teenagers.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I would say fifteen to sixteen year old girls are saying,
say they can't vote.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
They can't vote, and so please protect abortion because one
in six of us are going to be raped. And
my takeaway from that is that's how dangerous America is.
Maybe we should do something about the rapists instead of
you know, abortions, but it's there was something.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Else I watched that, Well, you have a daughter. I
have four daughters that are under eighteen, and I watched
that and I'm like, if my kids see this, what
did they go around thinking like, no matter where we go,
we're gonna and and do they really think that or
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even Whitmer brought her daughter into this like this is
to me how twisted it is. And maybe her daughter
really genuinely has this fear because she lives in Michigan
and Michigan is so dangerous because of her own mother.
But she in the campaign trotted her daughter out, which
I hate it when people use their kids, trotted her
daughter out and had her daughter say, I'm, for the
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first time ever coming out as a lesbian woman, and
so two things. I'm coming out as a lesbian woman
and I now, for the first time of my life,
have to use birth control because I can't get an
abortion because I'll likely be raped. And I'm like, really,
you're so you're We're now you're going to take birth
(38:09):
control regularly because you're so sure you're going to get
raped in your mom's state. That's sad.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, that's what I don't understand, is like maybe you
should get new leadership to help with that problem.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I don't know. I mean, nobody questions these things. So
I guess that's where we are now. Anyway, I watched
that today with her. I listen to most of it.
It is painful to listen to her answer questions, and
I do think part of it is to run out
the clock. She's great at the filibuster. I'm just going
to keep talking until they stop asking me this question.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, it's it's nonsense. And you know when she talks
about being a Donald Trump is a threat to democracy, Well,
let's not forget what the Democrats did. They fourteen million
Democrats voted for Joe Biden in the primaries, and there
was no accusation that he was, you know, of ill
(39:06):
health or whatever. And he admitted he himself admitted, oh
he was, there was a better candidate. They needed to
replace him because the ultimate objective is to save democracy.
And so then they replace him with someone who has
never received a single vote nationally in any in any state.
(39:27):
And we're all supposed to just accept, like we're just
supposed to just sit and take their lectures about democracy
and threats to democracy. It's it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, and how much do you hate the fact that
they won't ask her? Why did you lie about Joe Biden? Yeah?
I mean, how did the American people trust you? You
have a zombie running the country. The guy is brain dead,
he's not even there, he's on the beach. He can't
answer questions. He is embarrassing to the country. You knew
(39:58):
it the entire time, because we saw it in twenty nineteen,
and the decline since then has been even more severe.
If you look at videos of Joe Biden when he
was vice president and you compare them to when he
was running in twenty nineteen, is you're like, oh my gosh,
this is so bad. How can this guy become president?
(40:19):
And then you move from twenty nineteen to today and
it's I mean, if you look at that debate compared
to this debate, you're like, Oh, we're totally abandoned by
there's no one, there's no pilot in the plane, like,
we're on our own. And then you have Kamala and
she's just saying the same thing over again. I'm telling you,
(40:39):
she is like a woody doll and toy story. You
pull the string and you get one of her responses,
and they're always the same. She has like seven of them,
just like Woody, and and they don't match to the question.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Always No, it's still whatever is in the queue because.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You pull the string and it's I got a snake
in my boot. You know. That didn't answer the question,
but that was the one that was ready to go.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Well, what was the question she was asked? And then
she started talking about Ohio and Project twenty twenty five
and all of these like it was just like a
grab bag of whatever she had left that she hadn't
said yet.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
That's the thing, and that's the frustrating part is like
the Project twenty twenty five thing. He has nothing to
do with that. He said it multiple times. He's not
interested in talking about that. ABC didn't stop her and
say it, had it been the other way around, I'm sorry,
mister Trump. Mister Trump.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yep, she said multiple times she's not involved with that,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah exactly. But I mean, it's it was the same
with us with abortions, Like I've had I had somebody
today say I don't like that you ran on abortion.
I'm like, I did not. That's how manipulative the press is.
I didn't even think about abortion when I started running.
You know that I was not a part of our
messaging at all. And yet when they decided what I was,
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the media defines for them. And that's how these people
get lifted up. Because Whitber doesn't deserve this job. She's
destroyed the state. Kamala didn't deserve to be attorney general,
and she certainly didn't deserve to be vice president. But
the media moves people through. That's why they cried the
day that Trump won, because they were like, this is
(42:20):
not the brainwashing that we sent out. We told the
people it was Hillary. How did they turning? How did
they break free from the nineteen eighty four message in
their head? This is supposed to be what you do, comrade.
And they're like, oh my gosh, the people broke away.
Please break away again, people break away from this media.
You have to remember that the media also fishes for clicks.
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So these local.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
And state reporters that have a chance to have a
Trump in town or a person that's running for office,
it has a national platform and they can catch them
in something and get put on national TV once or
their tweet gets picked up with their story and they
get more likes and followers than they've ever seen in
their life before. It's just as intoxicating for them. Yeah,
(43:04):
they become psychos and then they realize that's their issue.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
The reporters. Yeah, local reporters. We have seen this happen
with local reporters in the state where it's like, you
see it happen with multiple people. I mean, you see
it happen on the conservative side too. They get a
few clicks, they become obsessed, and then they start saying
more and more radical things, and so on the Michigan side,
you see these local reporters who have said something radical
(43:28):
about conservatives and then they get lifted up or like
Mallory mcmurrow said something bananas one time and somebody retweeted
her and then she was like, I'm the best person ever.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
You get booked on MSNBC a couple times, and then
suddenly you are like a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
And on that side, you can just be as radical
as possible, like KJP today saying that about Donald Trump,
we're allowed to say he's a threat to democracy and
there's no chat ACKed it up with facts, she said,
because there's nobody. There's no fact checker, how outside, nobody's
coming after her. But that's the problem, that's how lopside
this is. So how do Republicans ever run for office again?
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How do we save democracy and make it fair? And
I say that in a serious that's a serious question
because in states that are purple, you have a massive
media presence move in and Republicans just don't see it.
They're like, oh, it's always unfair. Well it's getting worse,
and you're not going to get the people you need.
I mean, you're not going to get Republicans elected. And
(44:25):
so that sounds very depressing, but I'm ending on that
today because I want people to really go out and think,
analyze what you're seeing, and talk to your friends and
family about it. Because there is an entire machine against Republicans,
and it's against Republicans across the country. So what you
see with Trump, watch your local elections. It happens there too.
(44:47):
I mean, my goodness, look at Holland, Michigan, right down
the street from US. The press there is brutal to
the local Republicans. They are moving into little cities that
have historically been conservatives, and they're using this machine to
manipulate minds. So I would encourage you to make sure
you are fighting this crazy media that is hurting people,
that is lying about people. And I say it from
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a place of knowledge, and it hurts your whole family,
It hurts everybody. It makes people not want to run.
And that's their goal, right Their goal is to stop us.
They're not going to stop us. We appreciate your support,
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And everybody's looking at me like, just shut up, have
a nice day.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have Kyle Olsen
and Sarah Broadwater with me today. We wanted to talk
about this whole what is it an NABJ, the National
Association of Black Journalists, That is correct. So Kamala went there.
You probably remember Trump went there. It was not so friendly.
I would say it was very friendly when Kamala went
(00:24):
there yesterday, extraordinarily friendly. And so that's why I wanted
to talk about it because I think, you know, aside
from that, she has no plan, no plan, and it
was shocking to me that she couldn't talk about anything again.
She went to the whole I think three times during
the whole town hall event. She started in on the whole.
(00:47):
I was raised middle class, and I know what it's
like to live middle class. But she still didn't answer
any of the questions. And there were some very specific
ones that she didn't answer that I wanted to get to.
But I know you were talking about, Sarah, how different
the beginning was. Yeah, right off the bat, I mean,
if you remember, Trump's was running late by like an
(01:08):
hour if not more. They had all those technical difficulties,
even the way they spaced them on the stage. If
you remember, it was like the sprawling stage and they
were all like six feet apart from each other, seated
as if no one could possibly be near him. And
they started it off. So this, I mean, i'll read
off a paraphrase of the question how they started it.
They just said, appreciate you being here. We want to
(01:28):
address the elephant in the room. A lot of people
did not think it was appropriate for you to be here.
You've pushed false claims about former rivals, from Nicki Haley
to Obama, saying they weren't born in the US. You've
told congresswomen of color to go back to where they
came from. You attack black journalists, calling them a loser,
saying their questions are stupid and racist. And you've had
dinner with a white supremacist. Now you're asking voters to
(01:51):
vote for you. Why should black voters trust you when
you use language like that. And of course Trump was like, WHOA, Well,
that was the nastiest introduction I've ever gotten. He didn't
like it, and they and I think that's the intention
is to immediately throw him off. I mean, that's what
their game is, to immediately throw him off. But this
goes This is such a much bigger thing because they're
(02:13):
testing with him. They're going to go forward, but I'll
let you go on. You're right, because that was Kamala's
strategy during the debate, rile him up over crowd size.
Whereas Kamala came in and they were in this very
intimate seating area where they were probably two feet apart
from each other, quite honestly, much smaller stage. They were
all buddies.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
They came out said, thank you so much for the time.
It's a busy time. We want to start on an
issue that Americans say is the number one concern, and
that's the economy. Our voters better off now than they
were four years ago. I mean, so she gets an
issue focused question, no dialogue beforehand in an attack that.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Was the same thing in the debate. Everything that they
go into her was issues. They went to him with,
how do you explain this about you and some culture
issue that he we can some how tie you to,
and nothing about why he would what he would do
as president, nothing about why he wanted to go back
to the job. I mean, this is the frustrating thing.
(03:09):
And I was thinking about this on the way here
as we were discussing talking about this today, and I
was like, you know, now, if you say something when
you're on on the trail and you're joking, they will
cut it and destroy you. Like it doesn't matter if
you're just if you are just making a joke about something,
(03:29):
they want to nothing. You can't be funny, you can't
you can't try to like become friends with the audience.
They will destroy you, and they will take everything you
say and they'll cut it too. They won't tell the
full context. I mean I can't tell you. Well, you
guys know how many times during the campaign, but for
you guys listening, there were times when we said something
(03:49):
and they would just cut the end of it. I mean,
much like the Charlottesville thing that it has now taken
what eight years for Snoops to finally come out and say, actually,
that's not what he said. And it's the same we
go through multiple times during the campaign that this happened
to me. But how do you fight back against that?
And I'm not kidding about it. I mean I look
at it and I'm like, this is disgusting. Now. I
(04:10):
see Republicans and I've seen this the last two times
we've gone and spoken someplace and it just struck me
a few minutes ago. I see them like fumbling through
their notes and they're reading things directly from they've product
prepared speech. Then they're reading and they're struggling and they're
not connecting with the audience, and it's uncomfortable and it
(04:30):
doesn't feel like that retail politics feel where you can
go out and like actually like tell people this is
what I want to do, because they're so afraid of
saying something that will be misconstrued and cut and weaponized
against them.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I think that's that's been one of Trump's weaknesses maybe,
is that he often is he's joky, he's sarcastic, he exaggerates,
and then and he's saying in sort of a funny
kind of way, you know, playing to the crowd. But
then the media takes it very literally, and so he'll
(05:07):
he'll say, you know, I we had fifty thousand people.
And he's a lot of times I think he's sort
of you know, being he's inflating things for you know,
dramatic effect, but the media takes them very literally and
they'll say, oh, no, he had forty eight thousand people,
not fifty thousand. And and I think that's what sort
of led to a lot of people being very cynical
(05:29):
about the media. But her the first question that she
was that Kamala was asked was about, you know, are
you better off than you were four years ago? And
you know she's Her answer was about, you know, prices
are still too high and we need to do something
about that. Of course nobody says, well large, you know,
aren't aren't the Biden Harris policies to blame for that?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
She actually couldn't say that they were better off, like
she doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
She she made up a lot of things about like, oh,
there's there's more black entrepreneurs and there's more or there's
less black unemployment. Okay, but still that wasn't that's not
the answer to that question. I know politicians play that game,
but that doesn't mean those people are better off because
a lot of those people that have started their own
(06:17):
businesses are being crushed by the prices of things right
now and gas prices everything.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But her response was I'm a new generation of leadership,
that was her response.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
But that's so rising for some reason. I mean, that's
the discuss because because no one can you imagine if
Trump said that people like, what you have to explain
that what you know you've been If if it were
flipped and Trump were with Biden and now he were running,
they would go, You're not a new generation. You came
out of this administration. You created this. No one holds
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her accountable to anything. And I you know, people keep saying, oh,
she's trained, she's Obama, and she says, I don't think
that she acts has any idea what she's doing. I
think that she was a trained prosecutor. And I think
being a prosecutor is way different than being a chief executive,
Totally different things, because I think as a prosecutor, you
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study one case. You are you're pouring your brain into
one thing for weeks on end, and you're going in
and you're creating the argument and you follow the argument.
And she, as you can see, she can follow the argument.
I mean, what she answered at the debate then when
she went and sat with that guy in Philadelphia was
the same answer. She's like, oh, she memorized the argument,
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but she has no depth beyond that. And I want
to play something that's kind of long, but I want
to play it because I think that this is very
telling about Washington today and I have to find it here,
but this, to me is very telling about what actually
goes on in the Senate as compared to the White House,
(07:56):
and yet another reason why she actually has no idea
what she's doing when it comes to going to the
White House and what that will look like.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yes, so I feel compelled to say that about her
on the issue.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh wait, before I play this, I want you to
understand that they are asking her about whether or not
she will support reparations. She co sponsored a bill when
she was in the Senate for reparations. So she co
sponsored this bill and this bill. You know, they've reintroduced
this multiple times different ways. This is something she co sponsored.
(08:36):
It like this was something that supposedly she wanted. And
this is her response. Again, if you notice in these answers,
her response is always to not respond at first. And
that's a tactic, just so you are knowing at home,
that's to not respond at first is a tactic to
get your thoughts together while you're coming up with some
blonney thing to.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Say as president, take exec of action to create this commission,
or do you believe the issue happened in Congress?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Well, first, of all, I just as you mentioned Sheila Jacksonally,
she was an extraordinarily.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Here it is this is where you don't answer.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And she was a friend and a real champion for
so many issues. So I feel compelled to say that
about her on the issue of what we need to
do going forward. Look, first of all, we just need
to speak truth about history and just of.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
The process, because she doesn't even say on the issue
of reparations, on the issue of what we need to
do going forward and try and teach our children.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Otherwise, we need to speak truth about the generational impact
of our history, in terms of the generational impact of slavery,
the generational impact of redlining, of Jill Crowlog. I could
go on and on and on. These are facts have
(10:00):
had impact, and we need to speak truth about it,
and we need to speak truth about it in a
way that it's about driving solutions, and frankly, I think
that we you know, and part of that is studying
it to figure out exactly what we need to do.
But part of what we can do right now is,
(10:21):
for example, what I'm talking about in terms of building
an opportunity economy, which is addressing explicitly the obstacles that
historically and currently exist and dealing with them student medical
dat bias, and home appraisals. What we need to do
in terms of dealing with an issue that I have
(10:44):
championed for years.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Black maternal mortality, which is.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
The fact that Black women are three to four times
more likely to die in connection with childbird than other women.
And we know that the reasons for that include disparities
that pre exist her pregnancy, including disparities that exist in
the system during her pregnancy. So all of those things.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Must be addressed.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Do you have a position on whether that should happen,
This commission should happen through executive order or via Congress.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I think Congress ultimately will have the ability to do
this work.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, So for me, this is very fascinating because as
we've watched what's happened in Washington. You've got her. She
introduced the bill on reparations. She didn't talk about what
the bill was, she didn't talk about what they were
asking for in that bill. She's being specifically asked about
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her own bill, and she starts, like I said, she
gets the she's got the argument down. She's arguing about
maternal mortality rates. And all of the and mortgages and
all that, and the and these are young kids that
are asking her this question, these very young kids, and
they say, tell us, will you do it?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Though?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Will you do this by executive order? And she throws
it right back to I think it has to happen
in Congress. So wait a minute, this was so important
to you, you sponsored the spill. The thing is it
wasn't important to her. It was important to get votes,
that was it. Now that she has the ability to
do it, she knows it's not going to make sense.
(12:27):
She'll never do it. She will never do what she
claimed she fought for when she was in the Senate.
She will never do it in the White House.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I don't know that I think anything is important to
her other than the title. But to your point in
that interviewer or her response back, she I kind of
think her strategy is genuinely to make no news. She
confuses you by throwing out as many buzzwords and keywords
as possible. She doesn't actually take a stance on anything.
(12:54):
She like weaves through this tail. But there's really nothing
to report on other than the fact that like she
didn't answer the question. But none of those reporters are
going to actually say that about her because they're so
in the bag for her, But she doesn't say anything
that's alarming, so there's really nothing to actually talk about.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, so there's not going to be news that's going
to go back to the black community saying she's she
told you this lie and now she's not going to
do anything because they're not going to call her out,
and there's not going to be news on the other
side saying if she has agreed to some massive reparations plan,
because she didn't agree to anything she.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Commits to nothing like when she talks about she's a
new generally when I can't even speak generational leader, and
then she proceeds to say nothing about how she doesn't
dispute one policy area of Biden.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Opportunity economy is her big thing. I want to build
an opportunity economy. And people have asked her what is
an opportunity economy and she said, I want it to
be that we have everybody can be, have enough available
to them that they can and all if they work hard,
have an opportunity. What does that even mean? And honestly,
(14:07):
that one actually scares me because I do believe that
she is a redistribution of wealth type of person. And
I do believe that that is what an opportunity economy is.
It is taking money from the wealthy and distributing distributing
it to everyone. But it's not even we're not even
questioning that because she says, I am gonna give twenty
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five thousand dollars to people who need to buy a home,
first time home buyers. Well, okay, but how do you
know they're going to be able to keep up on
the payments? Like what is the program behind that? And
give me a break. If I had said that, I
would be ripped apard. People go, where are you going
to get the money? How are you gonna how are
you gonna vet the people? How are you going to
know that they can pay their mortgage payments? Where are
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they going to buy the houses?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What are you thinking? The girl? I'll give her credit.
She pushed back on her, and she said, okay, but
for all of us who either already own a house
or not trying to own a house, like life is hurting,
what are you going to do for us? And she's like,
I'm going to let you start start your own business
because I'm going to give you fifty thousand dollars. There
it's like just I'm going to give you, I'm going
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to give you. I'm going to give you. That's that's
not realistic, but.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
That that's the that's the difference between the parties, really
the Democrats. And it's not just Biden and Harris, It's Clinton,
it's Obama, it's governors. It's it's always here's what's government.
Here's what government is going to do for you. And
it's always taking in tax dollars and giving them out
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to the people that they need to win votes from.
And I would say about the reparations bill or any
any other pretty much any other bill that is in
the federal Congress or state legislatures, how many pieces of
legislation are just sort of kicking up dust to get
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to put to be able to put out of press release,
to do a selfie video for Twitter, for you know,
to be able to go on cable news and talk
about it, and they go nowhere, they don't actually accomplish anything.
And so here here is a good example of when
she was a legislator, she had this bill because she
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wanted to probably go on MSNBC and talk about it
with Rachel Maddow or joy read and enjoy read. But
it doesn't actually accomplish anything. But when she has the
power or potentially has the power to do something about it,
to actually do it, she flinches and she doesn't want
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to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
a Tutor Dixon podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And as I was watching through these clips, you know,
there's a lot of these sorts of appearances where you know,
there's the clip can be fifteen seconds and it says
what really, you know, sort of captures it. That clip
was three minutes, but that she just rambles. Yes, she
just rambles on and on, and there's no easy way
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to sort of say, Okay, this is really what she meant,
because she just rambles on and on.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But I do not believe that it is just a strategy.
I think it is really there's nothing behind the door there.
It grew, it's nothing in there to negotiate with. Because
I think that she was lifted up by the people
around her to become a senator. She became the attorney general,
then she moved on to become a senator. And I
(17:36):
do think that this, I mean in business, it's possible,
and in politics it's possible that if you have the
right supporters, you are ushered through. And especially on the
Democrat side, I mean, look at what has happened with
Gretchen Whitmer in this state. Look at Alissa Slotkin. She
is being lifted up by all of them, and she's
not even having to really campaign. You know, they are
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lifting people through. And I fully believe that she met
she checked the boxes that they wanted in California, and
they pushed her through. But that lifestyle gets addicting to
these people, and they have a staff and they get
to they get to have a very pampered life as
a senator, and I think that she's not only been
(18:19):
used to that, but she's been used to lying to
people to get more. She's been used to just and
in the Senate, I think you can get away with
it because you're one of many. You know, nobody is
coming back to you and saying you promised me this,
because you just go, oh, well, you know, I couldn't
get that bill passed. And you can write a bill.
You can have your staff write a bill, and then
you can be like, I made this bill and everything
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is great, then you can campaign on that and people
can have a lifelong career. She moved out of the
Senate because she became the vice president, and now she
thinks she's going to become president, and quite possibly, with
this nasty media, with these constant attacks on Trump, quite
possibly she will become the president. And there there is
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nothing behind the door.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's like when you study for a test and you
only know the answers, but you have no critical thinking
beyond it. Yes, that is commonly har She gets the
briefing sheet, she studies, what, she memorizes what she's supposed
to say, but then when she's asked a question that
slightly off killed her from that, she's like, oh, but
I think the big danger here is that she's used
to putting things through.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
To impress people. And in the past it was okay
because she could do it and it wouldn't pass. But
now she's going to be pressured into executive orders, she's
going to be pressured into bigger government, she's going to
be pressured into using taxes in manipulative ways. And I
mean she's out there talking about, you know, I'm glad
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we'd got rid of these we ban these bombs for
Israel and all this stuff. You know, she could be
convinced to do anything. I fully believe, because I don't
think she has the critical thinking skills. I think, and
it's not for any other reason other than that she's
proving that on a daily basis. Every time she talks,
she's proven that she does not think beyond what someone
has written down for her, what they've discussed as her
(20:05):
talking points. And so I look at this and think,
my gosh, what could happened with her city, not only
what she could do to permanently change our government, but
sitting across the aisle or sitting across the table from
a Putin? Can you imagine this kind of gibberish like
the translators like, it's the same word again, it's the same.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Word we saw. Was it ten days ago or something?
We saw Reagan And there was a there was a
scene in the situation room where it was very chaotic
and was you know, Soviet Union firing missiles and do
we need to respond? And everyone's like, you know, wetting
(20:46):
their pants. And after that, I thought to myself, what
would she do in that situation?
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And Reagan was very and I know it was a movie,
but it was probably similar to real life. But he
was very calm. He was, you know, assessing the situation.
He was getting you know, input and whatever. She I
can't even imagine what she would be doing in that
kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's funny because earlier they were talking I don't remember
which program I was watching. They were talking about, you know,
Donald Trump, when he's shot at, he's like the calmest
man in the world for some reason. Now, obviously sometimes
the small things get to him more than they should,
but they were discussing how it's kind of a very
true sign of a leader in like the most chaotic
times that he could literally be shot at and he's
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the calmest he's ever been. She's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean there were times when she was getting
teary eyed during this conversation with the black journalists, which
I think in some cases you can understand. But if
you're running for president, I mean, you better have a
darn good reason to get tie eyed and emotional with
the press, because I just think that that screams weakness
(21:59):
if you're sitting there and crying over this or that.
But we didn't even get to the assassination attempt, and
that to me is here we are again in this situation,
and we can argue back. Everybody's arguing like, oh, did
he have enough protection? Did he not have enough protection?
The problem is why does it keep happening? You know,
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this guy, he was on the radar, all of that.
It's fair, there's got to be so many people on
the radar. But there is a true narrative from the left.
And they didn't even pause this time, not even a
pause from the he's a threat, you've got well you
said you Hillary Clinton's out there and the next day
saying it.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, she was saying that there should be there should
be penalties, potentially criminal penalties for people who post misinformation
however that's described or identified or defined on social media.
And then it just it's a it's a it's a
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crazy time. And there was at the White House briefing
Peter Doocey from Fox was you know, basically he was
challenging KJP about sort of the rhetoric that comes from
the White House and how Donald Trump is a threat
in all of that. In one of the.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
People can hear what.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
Since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again, and
you're here at the podium in the White House briefing
room calling him a threat. How any more assassination attempts
on Donald Trump until president and the vice president, and
you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Peter, if anything from this administration, I actually completely disagree
with the premise of your question. The question that you're asking.
It is also incredibly dangerous in the way that you're
asking it because American people watching. And to say that,
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to say that from an administration who has consistently condemned
political violence, from an administration where the president called the
former president and was thankful, grateful that he was okay,
from an administration who has called out January sixth, called
out the attack of Paul Pelosi, called out and said
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we need to lower the temperature.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean, that's the gas lighting you get.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But there was another angle of that, and it showed
the whole press room, and while Peter Deucy was asking
that question, the look on is that Jeff Mason, he
used was a reporter, he used to be the head
of the White House Press Association or whatever it's called.
I don't know who he's with, but The look on
his face was like he was so annoyed. He practically
(24:59):
was rolling his eyes like this is a ridiculous question.
And but this, this is where we're at and so,
and then there is the clip of Tim Walls on
was at MSNBC where he was you know there.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, they have this, They have this attitude that their
definite if if you don't meet their definition definition of misinformation,
you should be held liable for that.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This is him, This is him to push back on this.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
There there's no guarantee of free speech on misinformation or
or hate speech, and especially around our democracy.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
But who gets to define misinformation? Is it Kamala Harris?
Is it Tim Walls who's an agent of the CCP?
Who gets to define that?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
No? I think this is the scary thing that's happening
now because I said to you guys on Friday night,
they came up to us and when they were asking
a Friday night, we hit this tone hall in where
are we Farmington House? And we had Vivek there and
Alena Habba on, some local people from the state when
we're a congressman and state senator and some people were
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asking about the election and how could we ensure that
the election would be fair. And then the press came
up afterward and one of the guys from the press said,
do you believe that there should be legal consequences for
misinformation about the election? And I'm like, here it is,
this is the beginning, because there already are if you
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try to tell people to go vote the next day
or something. You know, if you are blatantly trying to
get people to not or suppress the vote, there already
are consequences. But that's not what they're talking about. They're
talking about if you so much as openly question the government,
like if somebody comes out and says, well, what did
we have. We had that story recently where the woman
said they changed the polling places and she said, you
(26:50):
used to vote here, And she was like, you used
to vote here, and now you're supposed to vote here.
And she said, I believe that this was done without
the sixty days notice. Okay, but that didn't suppress the vote.
And that was her opinion, and she the Attorney general
from Michigan threatened criminal criminal prosecution if she did not
take that post down.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, it was a situation where she was she was complaining,
I guess that they changed the polling locations within a
window when they were not supposed to be changed. So
she was not saying, go to the original place and
that's where you're supposed to vote. She was just she
(27:31):
was stating her opinion that they broke the law by
changing changing the locations too close to the election. It
was her opinion, and she was reinforcing where the new
location is. But she still got a threatening letter. And
so this is the this is the slippery slope that
apparently we're going to go down now, where if you
(27:54):
are stating things that are against the regime, then there
could be civil or criminal consequences for you.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, then, I think the funny part about that Tim
Walls post. I found that because Kat Tim posted it,
and she was like, this is legitimately misinformation because he's
saying there is no protection, legal protection if you are
stating misinformation. It's like, yeah, there is this guy wants
to be vice president of the United States and he
(28:23):
doesn't believe in the First Amendment. I mean, this is
pretty tragic stuff and terrifying.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well that's I mean, that's isn't that the China way?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I ill, but that's not the American way, and I
know that I know that I don't think he wants
the America.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
He's not for America.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Right, And that to me is very, very scary that
these people are this close to taking over the government
in this country when they will come to your house
based on your posts on the internet. I mean, remember
in twenty twenty, people were freaked out because they had
people coming to their house and or canceling, not coming
(29:01):
to their house, canceling them, and they were getting deleted
from Facebook, they were getting deleted from Twitter. They felt
like conservatives couldn't have a voice if you said something
that the I mean essentially that the White House didn't
like they deleted you. And we know they did because
we now know that with the Twitter files, we know
that they actually deleted people from the Internet. It's going
(29:22):
to go beyond that. This new regime that wants to
come in, they want you arrested, they want you imprisoned.
I mean, look at how Hillary Clinton talks about Donald Trump.
She wants him eliminated. There is a reason people are
so adamant that he has to have he has to
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Speaker 2 (31:20):
Greg Gottfeld always makes the point I think I've said
it on here before is if you tell someone over
and over and over again that Donald Trump or whoever
it is, is Hitler, who most people think is the
worst people person in the world, you are going to
try to eliminate Hitler. So when you brainwash people into
believing that he is this scum of the earth, what
else do you expect.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's why you bring up Hitler. That's why I thought
it was so strange that I thought it was so
strange that all of these people who think is Hitler?
Why did they Why were they so relieved that he
was alive after the first assassination attempt. I think a
lot of what I do is just is just rhetoric
(32:02):
and nonsense. But the problem, of course, is that they're
the ones in power who can actually ruin your life.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I don't think they're genuinely relieved, though. I think they're like, no,
come out and say that what they yeah? Right? If
they're saying he's such a terrible threat, why are they
so glad? Right? Which is hard?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Which way is it? What do you want?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Hillary Clinton is like, why do they continue to give
her microphone?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Well, she has a new book coming out, she has
a new face.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You write a book, she did get a new face
to it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
It's a filter or something.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
No, even her real face looks different. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
All I know is that earlier today she was promoting
her book in an article and she was talking about
how she named her postmenopausal belly. I can't remember the no,
but she named it gross me. That was Hillary's own words,
not mine.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That could have been our president. Yeah, we could add
two presidents.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But the but to me, the fact I'll move beyond
the belly. But the fact that she is hysterical on
MSNBC and saying things you know about the deplorables, saying,
you know, things that she disagrees with, the fact that
she is out there, and there's reporters in Michigan that are,
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you know, hysterical on social media. Says to me that
it's very close or they're losing.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
That's true. I mean they and I do think that
they fear every time Kamalin goes out because I think
people are catching on that she doesn't have there's nothing
beyond the door, like you're going to peek inside and
it's just going to be air and and then you
and the problem with that is that's what we already have.
And so then you're really wondering who is running the government,
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like who is coming in and running the government and
what kind of damage will they actually do? Because what
are you? Why are you making that fir?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I just I thought you're going to keep talking about
the empty or empty headedness.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's just there. What else could there want? More can
you say about that? I don't know, clouds, maybe there
are no file folders to go through and this is
not inside out for not pulling out the emotions.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I never saw that.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Well, it's probably not a bad thing anyway. I do
think that we're what we're seeing right now when they
say threat to democracy what we're I'm actually can't even
believe that the other side who are all chanting threat
to democracy aren't seeing what they're actually doing. And that
(34:45):
to me is the most horrifying part about this is
that they are using so many tactics. The media, the
weaponization of government, the you know, silencing of conservatives, the
way word questions everything is, and this thing where they
won't take RFK off the ballot. I mean, no matter
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where we look, these people are trying to manipulate the election,
which is what, let's all say it together, a threat
to democracy if you manipulate the election for your benefit,
and that the idea that you have to like go
in and fill in ballots, which I you know, question
why we can't take RFK off the ballot as it is?
(35:29):
I'm like, are their ballots sitting there already fell out somewhere?
I mean, won't why won't you take him off? But
the fact that we have to talk about this, people
think that that's what a threat to democracy is. They
are threatening it in so many ways, and that's what
I think people in twenty twenty when they were like,
well do you think that the election was fair. It's like,
(35:53):
give me a break. These people manipulated his entire presidency
with this propaganda media. They mess with his entire presidency.
I don't think his I don't think his presidency was fair.
I want to go back to what you're talking about, though,
with a threat to democracy, and they just when Kamala
was answering questions or when she's on the campaign triol,
(36:16):
she talks about how every group is under threat, every
group is under attack. Is nobody safe in Biden's America?
I mean, that's what I don't understand. You guys are
running the show right now. Is no one safe under
your leadership? Because that's how they make it seem.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
There's a getting raped. There's Yeah, there's that group in
Michigan that is running the ad where that says it's
it's young girls. Wouldn't you say it's probably early teenagers.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I would say fifteen to sixteen year old girls are saying,
say they can't vote.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
They can't vote, and so please protect abortion because one
in six of us are going to be raped. And
my takeaway from that is that's how dangerous America is.
Maybe we should do something about the rapists instead of
you know, abortions, but it's there was something.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Else I watched that, Well, you have a daughter. I
have four daughters that are under eighteen, and I watched
that and I'm like, if my kids see this, what
did they go around thinking like, no matter where we go,
we're gonna and and do they really think that or
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even Whitmer brought her daughter into this like this is
to me how twisted it is. And maybe her daughter
really genuinely has this fear because she lives in Michigan
and Michigan is so dangerous because of her own mother.
But she in the campaign trotted her daughter out, which
I hate it when people use their kids, trotted her
daughter out and had her daughter say, I'm, for the
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first time ever coming out as a lesbian woman, and
so two things. I'm coming out as a lesbian woman
and I now, for the first time of my life,
have to use birth control because I can't get an
abortion because I'll likely be raped. And I'm like, really,
you're so you're We're now you're going to take birth
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control regularly because you're so sure you're going to get
raped in your mom's state. That's sad.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, that's what I don't understand, is like maybe you
should get new leadership to help with that problem.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I don't know. I mean, nobody questions these things. So
I guess that's where we are now. Anyway, I watched
that today with her. I listen to most of it.
It is painful to listen to her answer questions, and
I do think part of it is to run out
the clock. She's great at the filibuster. I'm just going
to keep talking until they stop asking me this question.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, it's it's nonsense. And you know when she talks
about being a Donald Trump is a threat to democracy, Well,
let's not forget what the Democrats did. They fourteen million
Democrats voted for Joe Biden in the primaries, and there
was no accusation that he was, you know, of ill
(39:06):
health or whatever. And he admitted he himself admitted, oh
he was, there was a better candidate. They needed to
replace him because the ultimate objective is to save democracy.
And so then they replace him with someone who has
never received a single vote nationally in any in any state.
(39:27):
And we're all supposed to just accept, like we're just
supposed to just sit and take their lectures about democracy
and threats to democracy. It's it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, and how much do you hate the fact that
they won't ask her? Why did you lie about Joe Biden? Yeah?
I mean, how did the American people trust you? You
have a zombie running the country. The guy is brain dead,
he's not even there, he's on the beach. He can't
answer questions. He is embarrassing to the country. You knew
(39:58):
it the entire time, because we saw it in twenty nineteen,
and the decline since then has been even more severe.
If you look at videos of Joe Biden when he
was vice president and you compare them to when he
was running in twenty nineteen, is you're like, oh my gosh,
this is so bad. How can this guy become president?
(40:19):
And then you move from twenty nineteen to today and
it's I mean, if you look at that debate compared
to this debate, you're like, Oh, we're totally abandoned by
there's no one, there's no pilot in the plane, like,
we're on our own. And then you have Kamala and
she's just saying the same thing over again. I'm telling you,
(40:39):
she is like a woody doll and toy story. You
pull the string and you get one of her responses,
and they're always the same. She has like seven of them,
just like Woody, and and they don't match to the question.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Always No, it's still whatever is in the queue because.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You pull the string and it's I got a snake
in my boot. You know. That didn't answer the question,
but that was the one that was ready to go.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Well, what was the question she was asked? And then
she started talking about Ohio and Project twenty twenty five
and all of these like it was just like a
grab bag of whatever she had left that she hadn't
said yet.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
That's the thing, and that's the frustrating part is like
the Project twenty twenty five thing. He has nothing to
do with that. He said it multiple times. He's not
interested in talking about that. ABC didn't stop her and
say it, had it been the other way around, I'm sorry,
mister Trump. Mister Trump.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yep, she said multiple times she's not involved with that,
blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah exactly. But I mean, it's it was the same
with us with abortions, Like I've had I had somebody
today say I don't like that you ran on abortion.
I'm like, I did not. That's how manipulative the press is.
I didn't even think about abortion when I started running.
You know that I was not a part of our
messaging at all. And yet when they decided what I was,
(42:00):
the media defines for them. And that's how these people
get lifted up. Because Whitber doesn't deserve this job. She's
destroyed the state. Kamala didn't deserve to be attorney general,
and she certainly didn't deserve to be vice president. But
the media moves people through. That's why they cried the
day that Trump won, because they were like, this is
(42:20):
not the brainwashing that we sent out. We told the
people it was Hillary. How did they turning? How did
they break free from the nineteen eighty four message in
their head? This is supposed to be what you do, comrade.
And they're like, oh my gosh, the people broke away.
Please break away again, people break away from this media.
You have to remember that the media also fishes for clicks.
(42:42):
So these local.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
And state reporters that have a chance to have a
Trump in town or a person that's running for office,
it has a national platform and they can catch them
in something and get put on national TV once or
their tweet gets picked up with their story and they
get more likes and followers than they've ever seen in
their life before. It's just as intoxicating for them. Yeah,
(43:04):
they become psychos and then they realize that's their issue.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
The reporters. Yeah, local reporters. We have seen this happen
with local reporters in the state where it's like, you
see it happen with multiple people. I mean, you see
it happen on the conservative side too. They get a
few clicks, they become obsessed, and then they start saying
more and more radical things, and so on the Michigan side,
you see these local reporters who have said something radical
(43:28):
about conservatives and then they get lifted up or like
Mallory mcmurrow said something bananas one time and somebody retweeted
her and then she was like, I'm the best person ever.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
You get booked on MSNBC a couple times, and then
suddenly you are like a celebrity.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
And on that side, you can just be as radical
as possible, like KJP today saying that about Donald Trump,
we're allowed to say he's a threat to democracy and
there's no chat ACKed it up with facts, she said,
because there's nobody. There's no fact checker, how outside, nobody's
coming after her. But that's the problem, that's how lopside
this is. So how do Republicans ever run for office again?
(44:03):
How do we save democracy and make it fair? And
I say that in a serious that's a serious question
because in states that are purple, you have a massive
media presence move in and Republicans just don't see it.
They're like, oh, it's always unfair. Well it's getting worse,
and you're not going to get the people you need.
I mean, you're not going to get Republicans elected. And
(44:25):
so that sounds very depressing, but I'm ending on that
today because I want people to really go out and think,
analyze what you're seeing, and talk to your friends and
family about it. Because there is an entire machine against Republicans,
and it's against Republicans across the country. So what you
see with Trump, watch your local elections. It happens there too.
(44:47):
I mean, my goodness, look at Holland, Michigan, right down
the street from US. The press there is brutal to
the local Republicans. They are moving into little cities that
have historically been conservatives, and they're using this machine to
manipulate minds. So I would encourage you to make sure
you are fighting this crazy media that is hurting people,
that is lying about people. And I say it from
(45:09):
a place of knowledge, and it hurts your whole family,
It hurts everybody. It makes people not want to run.
And that's their goal, right Their goal is to stop us.
They're not going to stop us. We appreciate your support,
We appreciate you listening to this, and we ask you
to continue to spread the word about what's really going
on and join us next time on the Tutor Dixon podcast.
We are on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
(45:34):
And everybody's looking at me like, just shut up, have
a nice day.
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