January 27, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Tyler O'Neil discuss the intricate web of dark money and political influence that shapes modern activism and policy. They delve into the findings in his new book "The Woketopus," a term coined to describe the vast network of organizations and funding sources that promote leftist agendas. The conversation covers the role of Arabella Advisors, the influence of unions, corporate compliance with DEI initiatives, and the impact of the Human Rights Campaign. They also explore the rise of the administrative state, the ACLU's involvement in immigration policy, and the significance of ballot initiatives in shaping public opinion. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, we are going
to talk about exactly how all of this messed up
stuff in government happens under your nose.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Without you really realizing it.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
But it's actually costing hundreds of millions, even billions of
dollars to the left to do this and we're not
seeing it. But Tyler O'Neil, thankfully, he actually broke it
all down for us in a new book called Woke
to Pus. He is the senior editor at The Daily
Signal and this book I've been reading through it. It is
(00:33):
just it's exactly what I want you all to know,
and I didn't know exactly how to break it down,
but it's all here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So thank you so much for joining me, and thank
you for writing this for us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, thank you so much for having me Tutor.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So, I mean, I just want to dig right into
it because I think what is most shocking is the
amount of money that goes into making people believe that
they naturally decided that they were pro trans activism, anti Israel,
all this climate stuff. I mean, the amount of detail
you get into is astonishing because I just don't think people.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Really realize it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But when you see the money, the hidden money, the
whole Arabella system of how this money goes in I
mean even I think you even have like the National
Wildlife Fund in there, which is billions of dollars goes
in there. And people, you hear that, you think that
sounds so wonderful because I think of like bears and
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lions and things being protected, you know, and I go
in there and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is
just a total disaster for fake climate stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah. Well, and what you've seen over and over again
is these these climate groups, these activist green activist groups,
they started with noble goals, you know, often trying to
tweak one or two things to protect a few endangered
species here or there, and then they got almost you know,
captured by this ideology that says all human impact on
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the environment is evil, and this overlooks the fact that
human beings have been taking care of the environment in
good ways that help the environment for as long as
we've existed. Like if you look, there was this fantastic
book talking about kind of the secret history of the
Native Americans and the tribes that we were able to
figure out here forest management, the controlled burns and The
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managing of the forest to prevent devastating wildfires goes back
to pre Columbian times where people were managing the forest
because they knew that it was important. And so the
very thing that you know Gavin Newsom needs to get
into his head right now is the same message that
the Native Americans knew a long, long, long time ago.
(02:53):
But the money that's being directed to these things truly
is gobsmacking. And the degrees to which these big funders
go to hide where donors are sending their money is
all I mean. You talk about the Arabella Advisors Network.
Arabella Advisors, for those who don't know, it's a for
profit company that set up a whole bunch of nonprofit companies.
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Then those nonprofits direct money to their own fiscal sponsorships.
So you have like this tripartheid structure, and there are
at least six of these sister nonprofits. Some of them
are bankrolling many of the ballot initiatives that we've seen,
like when Ohio went for abortion that was bankrolled by
the sixteen thirty fund. You also have these these nonprofits
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propping up these groups that just exist to oppose President
Trump's Supreme Court nominees. Back in his first term. And
then you have some of them that are coming out
and saying they're demanding transparency from Justice Clarence Thomas, while
running as far to the hills as possible to avoid
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their own transparency showing where their money is coming from.
And so this is the hypocrisy on the left. And
I don't think that dark money, as it's usually called,
is inherently nefarious, but I do think it's quite revealing
the degrees to which these organizations go to hide where
donors are sending their money.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, it always makes me laugh because you hear the
radical left yelling about dark money on the right, but
it is really there would be no radical left, there
would be no rise of the radical left without the
dark money of the left that has come in in
this organization. I mean, it is so massive, and when
you talk about it creating these other nonprofits underneath, I mean,
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I look at Michigan, Michigan, we had the same abortion
amendment here in Michigan, we also have It's so far
and wide. It is organizations that create organization on the
ground to make sure they're doorknockers and that and whatnot.
But it's also newspapers and news sites and everything you
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can think of to impact people and make them believe
this is a legitimate site coming out and say, I
mean they send out newspapers to your house. I had
people that when I was running for office and be like,
I got this new newspaper at my house.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's not a newspaper.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's from a nonprofit that is supporting the candidate on
the left. I mean, it is so far and wide
and you don't really realize it. And they're even using
our taxpayer money to do it because you go into
the public unions and that to me is so shocking
how much money the public unions are handing over to Democrats,
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essentially Democrat candidates so that they can beat out the
Republican candidate, even though the members may not be for
the Democrat.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Right. Well, that's a big scandal that thankfully the Supreme
Court created a pathway to get some people out of
unions who didn't like when their union, you know, it
was called agency fees. So there are like levels of
corruption to this where that was called Janus v. Afscme
really important Supreme Court case. Unfortunately a lot of unions
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are fighting tooth and nail to make sure that their
members can't opt out of spending agency fees and can't
opt out, can't leave the union. But yeah, one of
the big aspects of this book is that a lot
of the money that is funding the woke to pus
these activist groups that infiltrate the federal government and right
now are gearing to oppose President Trump from outside and
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from within. We have a deep state effort that's that's
gearing up to oppose Trump right now inside the federal government.
But these activist groups get a lot of their funding
from unions, and the unions give charitable contributions to all
of these activist groups that are helped propping them up.
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So you might have you know, you're a teacher in
ann Arbor and you're a member of the American Federation
of Teachers or the National Education Association, you don't know
that a bunch of your union dues that you think
you're paying so the union can advocate on your behalf
to get you better wages and salary and benefits. That
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those union dues, at least in part, are funding efforts
to crack down on oil and gas to make it
harder for you to drive to work, efforts to demonize
conservatives in federal law enforcement, efforts to push transgender ideology
through every aspect of the federal government and through human society.
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I mean, we talk about the Human Rights Campaign, which
is one of the big drivers of gender ideology. They're
forcing essentially companies, terrifying companies into buying every aspect of this.
So when you add Target and bud Light going whole
hog in twenty twenty three, and then they suddenly lose
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a whole bunch of their customers because Americans don't want
to put up with this stuff. It's this basic disconnect
between the elites that are pushing their ideology on us
and the American people who say, no, we like our cars,
we don't want to be lectured about gender. We want
to be left alone. We want to be able to
make money for our families and find our way in
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the world. They don't. Most Americans don't want to fight
these ideological battles. And that's why this, the influence of
the woke to post is so important to expose because
it's happening, and most Americans don't know that it's happening,
that this is a conscious effort to force these ideas
and these policies on the American people.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And this can be happening in your company too.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You may not even know it that the Human Rights Campaign,
these groups they get they infiltrate your organism. So we
have like corporate institutions like John Deere and Ford and
those companies who were being kind of held hostage by
these groups, like we have so much power that we
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can debank you, we can affect your customer base, We
can do all of these things if you don't abide
by our surveys and you don't go into our I mean,
and they get they have this this public announcement of
who has been a good corporate partner to them, and
that has been devastating, I think, to so many of
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these companies because they feel like, I mean, they have
to spend money to have these groups. So you had
all these organizations, all these big corporate corporate institutions that
had these DEI programs. And it's funny as I watched,
because as I watched Donald Trump sign that you know what,
we're getting rid of of all of the diversity, equity
and inclusion mandates in government. You take a step back
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and you see that some of these companies last summer
are already said we're going to get rid of this stuff.
We're getting away from the HRC, We're going to just
step up away from all of these radical programs that
aren't actually helping our companies. In fact, they're hurting our companies.
Because I think that when you saw last year, suddenly
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people started to say what happened to Boeing? And I
think Boeing was an interesting situation because Boeing actually cut corners.
They made the critical corporate error of deciding safety was
going to be secondary and put everybody in danger. But
it was at the same time when people were questioning,
are you hiring people because they're qualified or are you
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hiring people to check boxes? And I think so many
companies looked at that and went, oh, shoot, we do
not want to be in that situation where somebody peels
back the layers of the onion at a John Deere
or a Ford and suddenly goes you hired people that
had no qualifications to do something that puts people people
at risk every day if you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, no, I mean that is the big takeaway from
DEI is that it moves limited resources away from things
that really matter, away from competence, and it directs them
toward these ideological agendas, which you know, I grew up
in the nineties, so I remember being told and I
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love that this was drilled into me, because I think
it should be drilled into everyone that you should be
judged according to the content of your character and your
competency rather than the color of your skin. And then
absolutely twenty twenty, a whole bunch of people thought, oh,
because of George Floyd, we need to go to racial quotas,
and we now need to judge people based on the
color of their skin, not the content of their character.
(11:48):
And I'm like, weren't we all told from an early
age that it's important that we treat people equally, that
we be colorblind, that we make sure that we valuell you,
your contributions and your abilities more than your race. And
DEI flips that on its head. And you know, you
(12:10):
talk about the Human Rights Campaign and this organization, they
require absurd degrees of you know, virtue signaling essentially from
these companies where they have what's called a corporate responsibility score.
And so these companies not only do they have to
have internal policies that say, you know, you can't fire
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someone for identifying as gay or transgender or whatever. And
it's like, okay, I could see a little bit of
like reason for the Human Rights Campaign to ask a
company for that. The Human Rights Campaign also says, you
have to in your public statements, in your the money
that you send to your in your contributions, in the
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way that you present yourself to the world. You have
to be whole hog in this movie.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And how did they get so much power? I mean,
this is not the government. Why do they have any right?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Sea movement? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they it's because the
elites above us essentially decided and a lot of the
big venture capitalists created this ESG movement. They said, we're
going to direct our money based on environmental, social, and
governance goals, and every company has to be woke in
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order for us to invest in that company in. The
Human Rights Campaign was a major driver of this and
achieved a great deal. And we saw, you know, thankfully,
John Deere, some of the companies that you were talking
about pulled out of the Human Rights Campaign's index last year.
I think we need to have more and more of that,
because this index still has far more power than it should.
(13:51):
And unfortunately a lot of those companies and every company
that withdraws from that index is a victory.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Why does it have power? Intually concerned, I asked, why
does it have power?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Because, I mean, it means nothing to me as the consumer. Certainly,
if I'm going to go buy a car or Harley
Davidson or go to Low's, I don't care what that
index says.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So why does it actually have power?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Because if the I mean for a free market and
government shouldn't get involved in private business and this is
just some random, you know, nonprofit organization, why do these
companies feel like they owe them anything.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The short answer is they have power because they're perceived
to have power. The big answer is the SG movement,
which thankfully is weakening, the DEI initiatives, which thankfully are weakening,
but of course they're going to fight to maintain them.
I mean, a lot of companies are still getting really
high human rights campaign scores despite what happened in the
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past two years. And I think this movement, and that's
one of the importances of my book, is that this
movement is not going away. These activist groups are going
to continue. I mean, the human rights campaign. I call
it the LGBTQ mafia because of what they do, the
way they hold companies hostage, and unfortunately they're still going
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to have influence. We have to and the Trump administration
is doing an excellent job President Trump with those executive
orders fighting down on DEI in the federal bureaucracy. But
those executive orders have to be followed. I mean, there's
a recent poll that shows sixty four percent of DC
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based federal bureaucrats who voted for Kamala Harris in the
last election, so they would not follow a lawful order
from President Trump if they thought that it was bad policy.
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
Policy has now had, laws have now kind of gotten
away from the legislative branch of government. The legislative branch
of government was the lawmaking branch.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now agencies have come in.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So when we talk about the deep state and we
talk about the bureaucracy, agencies have become so large and
so powerful at the federal level but also at the
state level that these agencies are making rules, way more
rules than we see bills going through the legislature, and
these rules have the same impact as breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, they are the rules that Americans have to
live by. So this system is I mean, it's a
holdover from the industrial age and from the It was
called the progressive movement, and now today's progressives are taking
it to insane lengths. But you know, when you're talking
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about the progressive movement, Woodrow Wilson and then later FDR
creating this vast administrative state. And at the time, they
really trusted in top down bureaucracy. They believed that there
was one truth that the experts would know and the
people just had to accept it. Now, with the advent
of the Internet, with the strength that we have of
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the American people being able to learn through open platforms
like x, I think COVID really ripped the band aid
off and showed how much undo authority these agencies still have.
I mean, we had the public health experts telling us
that they lied to the American people. I mean that
I think people forget. First they said, don't get masks
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because masks aren't effective, and then they said, do get
masks because they are effective. And why did they say
don't get masks? Originally they said, because we lied to
the American people because we were afraid that the American
people would buy masks, and then all the doctors who
needed the masks wouldn't be able to have And it's
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like when you do that, when you admit that you lied,
and then you constantly get on your high horse and
say I am the science, listen only to me.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I mean that is not but they lied about I mean,
they allowed the Teachers' Union to come into the Health
Department and dictate whether or not schools could be open.
Knowing that schools could be open, but allowing the union
that brings a lot of money to the people who
are in these positions to dictate whether or not our
kids would go back to school. And I hear what
(19:31):
you're saying, but it seems like from the George Floyd
and COVID nineteen situation that were both kind of happening
around the same time, since then, the power became stronger.
And I guess it's because Joe Biden was in the
Oval office and he was allowing the power to get stronger.
But I mean, my gosh, this is a man who
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declared Easter the Transgender Day of visibility.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It's like shocking, Yeah, it was, and the book explained
all of that why the elites favor these policies. I
go into the education issue in COVID in my second
chapter of the book, and I talk about how these teachers'
unions that were demanding schools be closed, and you know,
(20:15):
they claim they had a reopening plan in the Trump
administration that had all these things that had nothing to
do with reopening, and then it was very political against Trump,
and of course Trump wasn't going to adopt their reopening
plan when they're an aggressive stature against him. And then
they started getting money, and I really think it was
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kind of a shakedown where they said, we're going to
keep schools closed until we get enough money from the
federal government, and eventually they did. And if you look
at the amount of money that was poured into these
programs to fund schools to help them reopen under Biden,
it skyrocketed. I mean it had started under Trump because
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he signed the Cares Act, but it really reached insane
levels under Biden. And this was in the same administration
where Biden took the heads of the NEA and the
AFT to the Oval Office on the very first day
of office and said, you know, we're you're here in
the Oval office with us, and we're on your side.
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And this is you know, this is the guy who
said he was going to be the most pro union
president ever. When you talk about unions, Joe Biden means
the union bosses who funnel their money to the Democratic candidates,
who funnel their money to the woke to pus. He
doesn't mean the average man and woman who's working for
a living, who may be a union member because that's
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their best option. He he doesn't mean most people. He
means the bosses.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And one arm of the woke to puss is handing
taking money while it's handing money to the other arm
because like it. Let's break down the union for example,
I mean you did have them demanding all this money
go into schools. Mysteriously, the money that went into schools
that you would imagine, Okay, the kids are behind, they
have to get caught up. These kids that were younger
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in elementary school, they didn't learn to read.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
We've got to get them back on track. None of
that money went there.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And suddenly you talk about the ann ar of our teacher, Well,
that teacher who's putting money into the union, which the
union already has all of this money in the teachers
or in the administrations, had suddenly massive.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Amounts of money to play with.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
The schools never got better in that period of time,
which is interesting because that goes against the whole argument
that if you just keep pouring money into schools, that's
the only thing they need to make sure they have
high test scores.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But that's certainly not true.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But then you break it down and you say, Okay,
that teacher in Michigan who puts money into the union,
then the union passes that money to another arm of
the woke to post that goes, okay, we've got to
be obsessed with the climate, so we're going to shut
down gas powered vehicle and we're going to start only
making electric vehicles. And so all of the students' parents
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who work at the factory down the street in Michigan,
suddenly that factory is being obsoleted because they're going to
build one in Tennessee. You know, it's like, oh my gosh,
do you not see how this is working? But we
don't because it's so it's behind the veil. You know,
people have to really understand what is going on and
dig into this like you do in this book to
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see Holy Cow. None of this is occurring organically. None
of this is natural. This is all being This is
well funded propaganda that goes through multiple different areas and
gets to the people in multiple different ways and gets
to the corporations. I mean, how could corporations be duped
into thinking that they have to have the score from
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the HRC if they do not have a massive amount
of propaganda hitting them every day saying you have to
do this because it seems ridiculous, it's not a real thing.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah it is. And on the climate issue too, is
a massive amount of propaganda. I mean, and it gets
even worse. Not only is the money from the inn
Arbor teacher going to the woke to puss and then
going to these activist groups that are pressuring the government
to shut down opportunities for oil and gas, but we
also have this orchestrated campaign where you know, under the
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Inflation Reduction Act, one of the biggest lies the Biden
administration told They said, we have to pass this bill
to lower inflation. But what was the bill actually doing?
What did Biden brag about as soon as it was passed.
He said, this was the greatest investment in climate infrastructure
in a generation. And so you look at all that money,
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and who is the one who decides where the money goes?
None other than well dear breath for this John Podesta,
a guy who led Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, the guy
who founded the Center for American Progress, which is an
organization at the center of the woke to PUS, an
organization that pushes for all of pretty much every single
(25:04):
issue that I outlined in the book. The Center for
American Progress is a driving factor open borders, climate crackdowns,
pushing gender insanity. And he's the one, and he is
very well connected to the big donors at the top
of the woke to US, people like Hans york Vist,
who's a Swiss who came to the United States. We
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don't know if he actually became a United States citizen
because he still hasn't told us, but he's the one
who's been bankrolling a lot of these ballid initiatives.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But if he were on the right, everybody would know
if he was a US citizens.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
He weren't, he would be thrown out.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Of here, just like I mean, just like Charles and
David Koch. Everyone would know that, oh, Hans York Vs
Is having this huge impact, just like Harlan Crowe. We
know Harlan Crowe's name because they've been demanding transparency. But
you know, every time you talk about George Soros, they
say that you're an anti Semite. It's like, now it's
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not even George, it's his son Alex who's running the
Open Society Foundations ANISA.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And actually funding anti Semitic protesters.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Exactly. Yes, you can't make it up, you can't. It's yeah,
I loved a few months ago, Ted Cruz was attacked
for being anti Semitic because he was talking about George
Sorow's funding this anti Israel And it's like, I'm condemning
anti semitism on college campuses where Jews are being harassed
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because they're perceived as being Jewish and perceived as being
Zionists and people are accusing them of genocide, and you
are saying that I'm the anti Semite because I'm calling
out the money stream that's behind this.
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after this. You are finally also calling out the money
stream behind it, and and this election was very unique.
I think a lot of people came out of this
election feeling like, oh, my goodness, America has seen what's
(28:13):
really going on.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But it's tight.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You know, you have seventy seven million that voted for
Trump and seventy five million that voted for this crazy
stuff because they are so manipulated by I mean prosecuting
pro life protesters. This is all about these ballot initiatives.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So you go back to.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
The massive amount of money that goes into a ballot initiative,
and we're talking about tens of millions of dollars that
go into these ballot initiatives. So if you think it's
just a bunch of people that are like, we want
to protect your rights, it has nothing to do. They
don't actually care at all about abortion. They want to
get voters, and they want to be able to use
something where they can twist your mind around it to
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the point where you think you have no choice. And
so they went to the extreme of saying it is
so important that people abort their babies that any protester
legally protesting at an abortion clinic should be arrested. I mean, gosh,
I think it was just this week that Trump said, Okay,
we're going to have or I guess just last week
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that Trump said We're going to release what twenty three
or twenty seven pro life protesters. Yes, exactly these people
who were in prison. I mean, it's shocking. We talked
to someone last week who was saying, I see he
was a guy that had been a like one of
the top ten or top twenty mobsters in the United States,
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and he said, what I see in Biden's government is
very familiar because it's very much mob like behavior. And
that's exactly what we see with taking these people who
are legally protesting and throwing them in prison.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Well and turning a blind eye to the vandals who
attacked right right pro life pregnancy said, like, the unspoken
fact about the Face Act is that both the Trump
Department of Justice and the Biden Department of Justice said
that the Face Act applies to protecting both abortion centers
(30:12):
and pro life pregnancy centers. So why the disconnect. Why
are you throwing so many pro life protesters in jail
for standing outside and praying or getting inside and peacefully
doing a sit down protest in an abortion center and
then turning a blind eye to all of the firebombings,
the vandalism, the attacks you know, we had. I think
(30:36):
it's almost one hundred attacks on pro life pregnancy centers
and pro life organizations after the leak of the Dobbs opinion,
and then attacks more than two hundred attacks on Roman
Catholic churches around the same time.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I have to say, I when I read your book,
I think, gosh, we haven't done this very well. I
know it happens on the right as well, but we
certainly have not done a very good job of showing
people what a life is and the value of a
life because it was so effective. The abortion campaigns were
so effective that I saw women who were like throw
(31:12):
those people in jail, total disregard for the Constitution or
our actual our actual rights.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You know, these people actually have rights. They don't care.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
They're like, I don't want anything getting in the way
of me, and this ability to do something that they
will likely never do.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's the bizarre part about it.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Likely the people who are fighting for abortion will probably
never have an abortion, but they will gladly take away
someone else's rights so that they can.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Make sure there are no barriers to it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Which I just find bizarre because one right is not
more valuable than the other. And we've and yet the
left has convinced people very well that they your right,
this right has more value than this right, or that
they don't even know their rights.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You know, they have made it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So that the education system doesn't even let you know
what your rights are. I want to get to really quick,
because I've taken up so much of your time, But
I want to get to the border and illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And how does the ASLU get involved in that?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Because and I ask this because we've got someone who's
out there in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I've got the endorsement of the ACLU. Husband works with
the ACLU.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Like the ACLU is some great organization, it's a horrible thing.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah. So the American Civil Liberties Union, you know, we
remember them because they represented klansmen when in free speech
cases years and years ago, and they took this stance
where they said, look, we will we don't agree with
these people, but will fight for your right to say
what you want to say. These days, the ACLU is
(32:47):
barely like that at all. I think they have like
one or two cases like that. But they are a
hard left organization that is pushing the boundaries of policy
and with as my book talks about, the ACLU fed
staffers into the Biden transition. So there are three groups
that I easily identify as being behind the open borders
(33:12):
push in the Biden administration. You know, you had night
and day, you had Trump with a secure border, and
then the very next day Biden sciences executive orders, establishes
catch and release, gets rid of safe third country deals,
gets rid of remain in Mexico, and suddenly you have
a huge influx of illegal aliens, so much so that
(33:33):
President Biden has to go on TV and say I'm
telling you, illegals, don't come. It's like, well, yeah, if
your policies hadn't already said loud and clear that they
should come, you saying don't come is not going to
have any impact, because of course it didn't. And we
saw upwards of ten million illegal aliens cross that border
(33:54):
and enter this country, and that is comparable to the
population of Virginia. This is a very serious issue. And
I you know, anyway back to the ACLU, because I
could wax on the border for a while, but the
ACLU sit on a document, and so did the Center
for American Progress. They were calling for a new, more
(34:16):
humane immigration system. One of the main things they both
wanted was to turn the DHS, the Department of Homeland Security,
into a welcome matt for illegal alias, and the Center
for American Progress said it this way. They said, we
need to treat immigration as an asset to be managed
rather than a crime to be enforced against. And that mentality,
(34:39):
I think is at the center of what happened in
the Biden administration what caused the border crisis because an
ACLU and Center for American Progress leaders went in and
advised the Biden administration from the very beginning in this direction,
and then it took hold. And what do we see now.
(35:00):
The ACLU is gearing up to sue Trump and to
prevent the mass deportations by any means necessary. And they
do this by they say that people have rights as
soon as they step into the country. It's like, if
you are coming here illegally, you are violating the law
by entering this country. You should not have rights in
(35:22):
our system. That is itself a crime, and you need
to be deported. And I think most Americans understand that.
That's why we saw polls showing that people favor mass deportations,
like people know it's an issue. I grew up in Colorado.
I saw that video of the Venezuelan gang going door
(35:42):
to door in one of the complexes that wasn't too
far away from where I went to high school, and
I thought, this isn't my country anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, And the shock of them saying it was only
one apartment building and JD vance in, I mean, what
a masterclass in looking at one?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Is one? Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Is it okay to have a gang go into one
apartment building? I mean, at what point do you realize
how stupid you sound? And I think that's what happened
in this election. But that's the part that blows my
mind when I see these politicians. Now, I see the
left and all Democrats seem to be kind of flailing.
They're like, wait a minute, do I vote for the
(36:23):
Lake and Riley Act? Do I not vote for the
Lake and Riley Act?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Can I still preserve who I am and say that
I'm okay with people? I mean, we're talking about anybody
who crosses the border has broken the laws. So if
you're an illegal alien, you're a criminal illegal alien. And
they're like, well, did you actually commit a crime? Well,
you've all committed a crime, but we're talking about some
of the most KEENUS crimes and they will still not
say yeah that I think we should get rid of.
(36:48):
I mean, they are flailing. This has seemingly backfired on them.
It seems like the Woke to Puss has kind of
like strangled them with all of its arms. But we'll see,
maybe they'll get it untangled and they'll continue to thrive.
I just think that the other side, the Republican side,
needs to get in there and bring some common sense
(37:09):
pretty hard, and I'm hoping that we see that soon.
But honestly, I've been reading through your book and I'm like, man,
if you want to get smart on politics and understand
how we got where we are today, because I think
so many people are like, how did this happen?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It just happened overnight. It didn't happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
You've got to read The Woke to Pus to totally
understand how it occurred and how we can fight back.
So I want you to tell people where they can
get it and.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
All of the details about the book.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Thank you. Yeah, so we have you know, it's on Amazon,
so just go. If you go and Google and search
woke to Pus, it'll be the first result. We're also
launching woketopus dot com where you can follow my substack
and all the articles that I've written about these issues.
Why this is a continuing threat because as you said,
the left is on the back foot right now. But
(38:00):
I also read an article this week where Alex Soros
was saying, I don't think I ever, I don't think
I want to run for Congress or run for office,
because I have more impact now. And he's saying that
right now while Trump is coming into office, and while
the Democrats feel like they're on the back foot. So
(38:20):
the woke to Puss is not going anywhere, and I think, unfortunately,
we're just going to see the resistance start to form.
The legacy. Media is still finding any way that they
can to demonize what Trump is doing in office right now,
and even though we saw the Washington Post agree with
most of his picks except four, they're still gearing up
(38:42):
to We know as soon as as soon as the
mass deportations start, they're going to find every SOB story
in the book, and they're going to push as hard
as they can. So be ready because there's going to
be a massive push from the legacy media, a massive
push from these radio stations that George Soros squat, a
(39:03):
massive push from these activist groups that's already starting where
they're going to say no, we need to resist, and
the people in the deep state are also going to resist.
So the book lays it out. You can go find
it on Amazon. Just search the Woke to Pus. It'll
be the first result.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And that massive push has massive money behind it, so
you have to learn all about it. You have to
figure it out. Tyler O'Neil will help you. Thank you
so much for coming on the podcast and sharing with
us today.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Thanks so much for having me Tutor.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the
Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this podcast and others, go to
Tutor dixonpodcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And join us next time. Have a blessing.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, we are going
to talk about exactly how all of this messed up
stuff in government happens under your nose.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Without you really realizing it.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
But it's actually costing hundreds of millions, even billions of
dollars to the left to do this and we're not
seeing it. But Tyler O'Neil, thankfully, he actually broke it
all down for us in a new book called Woke
to Pus. He is the senior editor at The Daily
Signal and this book I've been reading through it. It is
(00:33):
just it's exactly what I want you all to know,
and I didn't know exactly how to break it down,
but it's all here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
So thank you so much for joining me, and thank
you for writing this for us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, thank you so much for having me Tutor.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So, I mean, I just want to dig right into
it because I think what is most shocking is the
amount of money that goes into making people believe that
they naturally decided that they were pro trans activism, anti Israel,
all this climate stuff. I mean, the amount of detail
you get into is astonishing because I just don't think people.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Really realize it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But when you see the money, the hidden money, the
whole Arabella system of how this money goes in I
mean even I think you even have like the National
Wildlife Fund in there, which is billions of dollars goes
in there. And people, you hear that, you think that
sounds so wonderful because I think of like bears and
(01:31):
lions and things being protected, you know, and I go
in there and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is
just a total disaster for fake climate stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah. Well, and what you've seen over and over again
is these these climate groups, these activist green activist groups,
they started with noble goals, you know, often trying to
tweak one or two things to protect a few endangered
species here or there, and then they got almost you know,
captured by this ideology that says all human impact on
(02:04):
the environment is evil, and this overlooks the fact that
human beings have been taking care of the environment in
good ways that help the environment for as long as
we've existed. Like if you look, there was this fantastic
book talking about kind of the secret history of the
Native Americans and the tribes that we were able to
figure out here forest management, the controlled burns and The
(02:29):
managing of the forest to prevent devastating wildfires goes back
to pre Columbian times where people were managing the forest
because they knew that it was important. And so the
very thing that you know Gavin Newsom needs to get
into his head right now is the same message that
the Native Americans knew a long, long, long time ago.
(02:53):
But the money that's being directed to these things truly
is gobsmacking. And the degrees to which these big funders
go to hide where donors are sending their money is
all I mean. You talk about the Arabella Advisors Network.
Arabella Advisors, for those who don't know, it's a for
profit company that set up a whole bunch of nonprofit companies.
(03:17):
Then those nonprofits direct money to their own fiscal sponsorships.
So you have like this tripartheid structure, and there are
at least six of these sister nonprofits. Some of them
are bankrolling many of the ballot initiatives that we've seen,
like when Ohio went for abortion that was bankrolled by
the sixteen thirty fund. You also have these these nonprofits
(03:43):
propping up these groups that just exist to oppose President
Trump's Supreme Court nominees. Back in his first term. And
then you have some of them that are coming out
and saying they're demanding transparency from Justice Clarence Thomas, while
running as far to the hills as possible to avoid
(04:03):
their own transparency showing where their money is coming from.
And so this is the hypocrisy on the left. And
I don't think that dark money, as it's usually called,
is inherently nefarious, but I do think it's quite revealing
the degrees to which these organizations go to hide where
donors are sending their money.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, it always makes me laugh because you hear the
radical left yelling about dark money on the right, but
it is really there would be no radical left, there
would be no rise of the radical left without the
dark money of the left that has come in in
this organization. I mean, it is so massive, and when
you talk about it creating these other nonprofits underneath, I mean,
(04:46):
I look at Michigan, Michigan, we had the same abortion
amendment here in Michigan, we also have It's so far
and wide. It is organizations that create organization on the
ground to make sure they're doorknockers and that and whatnot.
But it's also newspapers and news sites and everything you
(05:09):
can think of to impact people and make them believe
this is a legitimate site coming out and say, I
mean they send out newspapers to your house. I had
people that when I was running for office and be like,
I got this new newspaper at my house.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's not a newspaper.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's from a nonprofit that is supporting the candidate on
the left. I mean, it is so far and wide
and you don't really realize it. And they're even using
our taxpayer money to do it because you go into
the public unions and that to me is so shocking
how much money the public unions are handing over to Democrats,
(05:46):
essentially Democrat candidates so that they can beat out the
Republican candidate, even though the members may not be for
the Democrat.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Right. Well, that's a big scandal that thankfully the Supreme
Court created a pathway to get some people out of
unions who didn't like when their union, you know, it
was called agency fees. So there are like levels of
corruption to this where that was called Janus v. Afscme
really important Supreme Court case. Unfortunately a lot of unions
(06:17):
are fighting tooth and nail to make sure that their
members can't opt out of spending agency fees and can't
opt out, can't leave the union. But yeah, one of
the big aspects of this book is that a lot
of the money that is funding the woke to pus
these activist groups that infiltrate the federal government and right
now are gearing to oppose President Trump from outside and
(06:40):
from within. We have a deep state effort that's that's
gearing up to oppose Trump right now inside the federal government.
But these activist groups get a lot of their funding
from unions, and the unions give charitable contributions to all
of these activist groups that are helped propping them up.
(07:01):
So you might have you know, you're a teacher in
ann Arbor and you're a member of the American Federation
of Teachers or the National Education Association, you don't know
that a bunch of your union dues that you think
you're paying so the union can advocate on your behalf
to get you better wages and salary and benefits. That
(07:23):
those union dues, at least in part, are funding efforts
to crack down on oil and gas to make it
harder for you to drive to work, efforts to demonize
conservatives in federal law enforcement, efforts to push transgender ideology
through every aspect of the federal government and through human society.
(07:44):
I mean, we talk about the Human Rights Campaign, which
is one of the big drivers of gender ideology. They're
forcing essentially companies, terrifying companies into buying every aspect of this.
So when you add Target and bud Light going whole
hog in twenty twenty three, and then they suddenly lose
(08:05):
a whole bunch of their customers because Americans don't want
to put up with this stuff. It's this basic disconnect
between the elites that are pushing their ideology on us
and the American people who say, no, we like our cars,
we don't want to be lectured about gender. We want
to be left alone. We want to be able to
make money for our families and find our way in
(08:28):
the world. They don't. Most Americans don't want to fight
these ideological battles. And that's why this, the influence of
the woke to post is so important to expose because
it's happening, and most Americans don't know that it's happening,
that this is a conscious effort to force these ideas
and these policies on the American people.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And this can be happening in your company too.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You may not even know it that the Human Rights Campaign,
these groups they get they infiltrate your organism. So we
have like corporate institutions like John Deere and Ford and
those companies who were being kind of held hostage by
these groups, like we have so much power that we
(09:12):
can debank you, we can affect your customer base, We
can do all of these things if you don't abide
by our surveys and you don't go into our I mean,
and they get they have this this public announcement of
who has been a good corporate partner to them, and
that has been devastating, I think, to so many of
(09:33):
these companies because they feel like, I mean, they have
to spend money to have these groups. So you had
all these organizations, all these big corporate corporate institutions that
had these DEI programs. And it's funny as I watched,
because as I watched Donald Trump sign that you know what,
we're getting rid of of all of the diversity, equity
and inclusion mandates in government. You take a step back
(09:56):
and you see that some of these companies last summer
are already said we're going to get rid of this stuff.
We're getting away from the HRC, We're going to just
step up away from all of these radical programs that
aren't actually helping our companies. In fact, they're hurting our companies.
Because I think that when you saw last year, suddenly
(10:18):
people started to say what happened to Boeing? And I
think Boeing was an interesting situation because Boeing actually cut corners.
They made the critical corporate error of deciding safety was
going to be secondary and put everybody in danger. But
it was at the same time when people were questioning,
are you hiring people because they're qualified or are you
(10:40):
hiring people to check boxes? And I think so many
companies looked at that and went, oh, shoot, we do
not want to be in that situation where somebody peels
back the layers of the onion at a John Deere
or a Ford and suddenly goes you hired people that
had no qualifications to do something that puts people people
at risk every day if you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, no, I mean that is the big takeaway from
DEI is that it moves limited resources away from things
that really matter, away from competence, and it directs them
toward these ideological agendas, which you know, I grew up
in the nineties, so I remember being told and I
(11:25):
love that this was drilled into me, because I think
it should be drilled into everyone that you should be
judged according to the content of your character and your
competency rather than the color of your skin. And then
absolutely twenty twenty, a whole bunch of people thought, oh,
because of George Floyd, we need to go to racial quotas,
and we now need to judge people based on the
color of their skin, not the content of their character.
(11:48):
And I'm like, weren't we all told from an early
age that it's important that we treat people equally, that
we be colorblind, that we make sure that we valuell you,
your contributions and your abilities more than your race. And
DEI flips that on its head. And you know, you
(12:10):
talk about the Human Rights Campaign and this organization, they
require absurd degrees of you know, virtue signaling essentially from
these companies where they have what's called a corporate responsibility score.
And so these companies not only do they have to
have internal policies that say, you know, you can't fire
(12:33):
someone for identifying as gay or transgender or whatever. And
it's like, okay, I could see a little bit of
like reason for the Human Rights Campaign to ask a
company for that. The Human Rights Campaign also says, you
have to in your public statements, in your the money
that you send to your in your contributions, in the
(12:55):
way that you present yourself to the world. You have
to be whole hog in this movie.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And how did they get so much power? I mean,
this is not the government. Why do they have any right?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Sea movement? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they it's because the
elites above us essentially decided and a lot of the
big venture capitalists created this ESG movement. They said, we're
going to direct our money based on environmental, social, and
governance goals, and every company has to be woke in
(13:26):
order for us to invest in that company in. The
Human Rights Campaign was a major driver of this and
achieved a great deal. And we saw, you know, thankfully,
John Deere, some of the companies that you were talking
about pulled out of the Human Rights Campaign's index last year.
I think we need to have more and more of that,
because this index still has far more power than it should.
(13:51):
And unfortunately a lot of those companies and every company
that withdraws from that index is a victory.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Why does it have power? Intually concerned, I asked, why
does it have power?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Because, I mean, it means nothing to me as the consumer. Certainly,
if I'm going to go buy a car or Harley
Davidson or go to Low's, I don't care what that
index says.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So why does it actually have power?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Because if the I mean for a free market and
government shouldn't get involved in private business and this is
just some random, you know, nonprofit organization, why do these
companies feel like they owe them anything.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The short answer is they have power because they're perceived
to have power. The big answer is the SG movement,
which thankfully is weakening, the DEI initiatives, which thankfully are weakening,
but of course they're going to fight to maintain them.
I mean, a lot of companies are still getting really
high human rights campaign scores despite what happened in the
(14:50):
past two years. And I think this movement, and that's
one of the importances of my book, is that this
movement is not going away. These activist groups are going
to continue. I mean, the human rights campaign. I call
it the LGBTQ mafia because of what they do, the
way they hold companies hostage, and unfortunately they're still going
(15:12):
to have influence. We have to and the Trump administration
is doing an excellent job President Trump with those executive
orders fighting down on DEI in the federal bureaucracy. But
those executive orders have to be followed. I mean, there's
a recent poll that shows sixty four percent of DC
(15:34):
based federal bureaucrats who voted for Kamala Harris in the
last election, so they would not follow a lawful order
from President Trump if they thought that it was bad policy.
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Speaker 1 (16:57):
Policy has now had, laws have now kind of gotten
away from the legislative branch of government. The legislative branch
of government was the lawmaking branch.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now agencies have come in.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So when we talk about the deep state and we
talk about the bureaucracy, agencies have become so large and
so powerful at the federal level but also at the
state level that these agencies are making rules, way more
rules than we see bills going through the legislature, and
these rules have the same impact as breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, they are the rules that Americans have to
live by. So this system is I mean, it's a
holdover from the industrial age and from the It was
called the progressive movement, and now today's progressives are taking
it to insane lengths. But you know, when you're talking
(17:52):
about the progressive movement, Woodrow Wilson and then later FDR
creating this vast administrative state. And at the time, they
really trusted in top down bureaucracy. They believed that there
was one truth that the experts would know and the
people just had to accept it. Now, with the advent
of the Internet, with the strength that we have of
(18:14):
the American people being able to learn through open platforms
like x, I think COVID really ripped the band aid
off and showed how much undo authority these agencies still have.
I mean, we had the public health experts telling us
that they lied to the American people. I mean that
I think people forget. First they said, don't get masks
(18:39):
because masks aren't effective, and then they said, do get
masks because they are effective. And why did they say
don't get masks? Originally they said, because we lied to
the American people because we were afraid that the American
people would buy masks, and then all the doctors who
needed the masks wouldn't be able to have And it's
(18:59):
like when you do that, when you admit that you lied,
and then you constantly get on your high horse and
say I am the science, listen only to me.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I mean that is not but they lied about I mean,
they allowed the Teachers' Union to come into the Health
Department and dictate whether or not schools could be open.
Knowing that schools could be open, but allowing the union
that brings a lot of money to the people who
are in these positions to dictate whether or not our
kids would go back to school. And I hear what
(19:31):
you're saying, but it seems like from the George Floyd
and COVID nineteen situation that were both kind of happening
around the same time, since then, the power became stronger.
And I guess it's because Joe Biden was in the
Oval office and he was allowing the power to get stronger.
But I mean, my gosh, this is a man who
(19:51):
declared Easter the Transgender Day of visibility.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It's like shocking, Yeah, it was, and the book explained
all of that why the elites favor these policies. I
go into the education issue in COVID in my second
chapter of the book, and I talk about how these teachers'
unions that were demanding schools be closed, and you know,
(20:15):
they claim they had a reopening plan in the Trump
administration that had all these things that had nothing to
do with reopening, and then it was very political against Trump,
and of course Trump wasn't going to adopt their reopening
plan when they're an aggressive stature against him. And then
they started getting money, and I really think it was
(20:36):
kind of a shakedown where they said, we're going to
keep schools closed until we get enough money from the
federal government, and eventually they did. And if you look
at the amount of money that was poured into these
programs to fund schools to help them reopen under Biden,
it skyrocketed. I mean it had started under Trump because
(20:59):
he signed the Cares Act, but it really reached insane
levels under Biden. And this was in the same administration
where Biden took the heads of the NEA and the
AFT to the Oval Office on the very first day
of office and said, you know, we're you're here in
the Oval office with us, and we're on your side.
(21:21):
And this is you know, this is the guy who
said he was going to be the most pro union
president ever. When you talk about unions, Joe Biden means
the union bosses who funnel their money to the Democratic candidates,
who funnel their money to the woke to pus. He
doesn't mean the average man and woman who's working for
a living, who may be a union member because that's
(21:43):
their best option. He he doesn't mean most people. He
means the bosses.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
And one arm of the woke to puss is handing
taking money while it's handing money to the other arm
because like it. Let's break down the union for example,
I mean you did have them demanding all this money
go into schools. Mysteriously, the money that went into schools
that you would imagine, Okay, the kids are behind, they
have to get caught up. These kids that were younger
(22:10):
in elementary school, they didn't learn to read.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
We've got to get them back on track. None of
that money went there.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And suddenly you talk about the ann ar of our teacher, Well,
that teacher who's putting money into the union, which the
union already has all of this money in the teachers
or in the administrations, had suddenly massive.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Amounts of money to play with.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
The schools never got better in that period of time,
which is interesting because that goes against the whole argument
that if you just keep pouring money into schools, that's
the only thing they need to make sure they have
high test scores.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
But that's certainly not true.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But then you break it down and you say, Okay,
that teacher in Michigan who puts money into the union,
then the union passes that money to another arm of
the woke to post that goes, okay, we've got to
be obsessed with the climate, so we're going to shut
down gas powered vehicle and we're going to start only
making electric vehicles. And so all of the students' parents
(23:05):
who work at the factory down the street in Michigan,
suddenly that factory is being obsoleted because they're going to
build one in Tennessee. You know, it's like, oh my gosh,
do you not see how this is working? But we
don't because it's so it's behind the veil. You know,
people have to really understand what is going on and
dig into this like you do in this book to
(23:25):
see Holy Cow. None of this is occurring organically. None
of this is natural. This is all being This is
well funded propaganda that goes through multiple different areas and
gets to the people in multiple different ways and gets
to the corporations. I mean, how could corporations be duped
into thinking that they have to have the score from
(23:47):
the HRC if they do not have a massive amount
of propaganda hitting them every day saying you have to
do this because it seems ridiculous, it's not a real thing.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah it is. And on the climate issue too, is
a massive amount of propaganda. I mean, and it gets
even worse. Not only is the money from the inn
Arbor teacher going to the woke to puss and then
going to these activist groups that are pressuring the government
to shut down opportunities for oil and gas, but we
also have this orchestrated campaign where you know, under the
(24:20):
Inflation Reduction Act, one of the biggest lies the Biden
administration told They said, we have to pass this bill
to lower inflation. But what was the bill actually doing?
What did Biden brag about as soon as it was passed.
He said, this was the greatest investment in climate infrastructure
in a generation. And so you look at all that money,
(24:42):
and who is the one who decides where the money goes?
None other than well dear breath for this John Podesta,
a guy who led Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, the guy
who founded the Center for American Progress, which is an
organization at the center of the woke to PUS, an
organization that pushes for all of pretty much every single
(25:04):
issue that I outlined in the book. The Center for
American Progress is a driving factor open borders, climate crackdowns,
pushing gender insanity. And he's the one, and he is
very well connected to the big donors at the top
of the woke to US, people like Hans york Vist,
who's a Swiss who came to the United States. We
(25:25):
don't know if he actually became a United States citizen
because he still hasn't told us, but he's the one
who's been bankrolling a lot of these ballid initiatives.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But if he were on the right, everybody would know
if he was a US citizens.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
He weren't, he would be thrown out.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Of here, just like I mean, just like Charles and
David Koch. Everyone would know that, oh, Hans York Vs
Is having this huge impact, just like Harlan Crowe. We
know Harlan Crowe's name because they've been demanding transparency. But
you know, every time you talk about George Soros, they
say that you're an anti Semite. It's like, now it's
(26:00):
not even George, it's his son Alex who's running the
Open Society Foundations ANISA.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And actually funding anti Semitic protesters.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Exactly. Yes, you can't make it up, you can't. It's yeah,
I loved a few months ago, Ted Cruz was attacked
for being anti Semitic because he was talking about George
Sorow's funding this anti Israel And it's like, I'm condemning
anti semitism on college campuses where Jews are being harassed
(26:30):
because they're perceived as being Jewish and perceived as being
Zionists and people are accusing them of genocide, and you
are saying that I'm the anti Semite because I'm calling
out the money stream that's behind this.
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after this. You are finally also calling out the money
stream behind it, and and this election was very unique.
I think a lot of people came out of this
election feeling like, oh, my goodness, America has seen what's
(28:13):
really going on.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But it's tight.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You know, you have seventy seven million that voted for
Trump and seventy five million that voted for this crazy
stuff because they are so manipulated by I mean prosecuting
pro life protesters. This is all about these ballot initiatives.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So you go back to.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
The massive amount of money that goes into a ballot initiative,
and we're talking about tens of millions of dollars that
go into these ballot initiatives. So if you think it's
just a bunch of people that are like, we want
to protect your rights, it has nothing to do. They
don't actually care at all about abortion. They want to
get voters, and they want to be able to use
something where they can twist your mind around it to
(28:52):
the point where you think you have no choice. And
so they went to the extreme of saying it is
so important that people abort their babies that any protester
legally protesting at an abortion clinic should be arrested. I mean, gosh,
I think it was just this week that Trump said, Okay,
we're going to have or I guess just last week
(29:14):
that Trump said We're going to release what twenty three
or twenty seven pro life protesters. Yes, exactly these people
who were in prison. I mean, it's shocking. We talked
to someone last week who was saying, I see he
was a guy that had been a like one of
the top ten or top twenty mobsters in the United States,
(29:35):
and he said, what I see in Biden's government is
very familiar because it's very much mob like behavior. And
that's exactly what we see with taking these people who
are legally protesting and throwing them in prison.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Well and turning a blind eye to the vandals who
attacked right right pro life pregnancy said, like, the unspoken
fact about the Face Act is that both the Trump
Department of Justice and the Biden Department of Justice said
that the Face Act applies to protecting both abortion centers
(30:12):
and pro life pregnancy centers. So why the disconnect. Why
are you throwing so many pro life protesters in jail
for standing outside and praying or getting inside and peacefully
doing a sit down protest in an abortion center and
then turning a blind eye to all of the firebombings,
the vandalism, the attacks you know, we had. I think
(30:36):
it's almost one hundred attacks on pro life pregnancy centers
and pro life organizations after the leak of the Dobbs opinion,
and then attacks more than two hundred attacks on Roman
Catholic churches around the same time.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I have to say, I when I read your book,
I think, gosh, we haven't done this very well. I
know it happens on the right as well, but we
certainly have not done a very good job of showing
people what a life is and the value of a
life because it was so effective. The abortion campaigns were
so effective that I saw women who were like throw
(31:12):
those people in jail, total disregard for the Constitution or
our actual our actual rights.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You know, these people actually have rights. They don't care.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
They're like, I don't want anything getting in the way
of me, and this ability to do something that they
will likely never do.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's the bizarre part about it.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Likely the people who are fighting for abortion will probably
never have an abortion, but they will gladly take away
someone else's rights so that they can.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Make sure there are no barriers to it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Which I just find bizarre because one right is not
more valuable than the other. And we've and yet the
left has convinced people very well that they your right,
this right has more value than this right, or that
they don't even know their rights.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You know, they have made it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So that the education system doesn't even let you know
what your rights are. I want to get to really quick,
because I've taken up so much of your time, But
I want to get to the border and illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And how does the ASLU get involved in that?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Because and I ask this because we've got someone who's
out there in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I've got the endorsement of the ACLU. Husband works with
the ACLU.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Like the ACLU is some great organization, it's a horrible thing.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah. So the American Civil Liberties Union, you know, we
remember them because they represented klansmen when in free speech
cases years and years ago, and they took this stance
where they said, look, we will we don't agree with
these people, but will fight for your right to say
what you want to say. These days, the ACLU is
(32:47):
barely like that at all. I think they have like
one or two cases like that. But they are a
hard left organization that is pushing the boundaries of policy
and with as my book talks about, the ACLU fed
staffers into the Biden transition. So there are three groups
that I easily identify as being behind the open borders
(33:12):
push in the Biden administration. You know, you had night
and day, you had Trump with a secure border, and
then the very next day Biden sciences executive orders, establishes
catch and release, gets rid of safe third country deals,
gets rid of remain in Mexico, and suddenly you have
a huge influx of illegal aliens, so much so that
(33:33):
President Biden has to go on TV and say I'm
telling you, illegals, don't come. It's like, well, yeah, if
your policies hadn't already said loud and clear that they
should come, you saying don't come is not going to
have any impact, because of course it didn't. And we
saw upwards of ten million illegal aliens cross that border
(33:54):
and enter this country, and that is comparable to the
population of Virginia. This is a very serious issue. And
I you know, anyway back to the ACLU, because I
could wax on the border for a while, but the
ACLU sit on a document, and so did the Center
for American Progress. They were calling for a new, more
(34:16):
humane immigration system. One of the main things they both
wanted was to turn the DHS, the Department of Homeland Security,
into a welcome matt for illegal alias, and the Center
for American Progress said it this way. They said, we
need to treat immigration as an asset to be managed
rather than a crime to be enforced against. And that mentality,
(34:39):
I think is at the center of what happened in
the Biden administration what caused the border crisis because an
ACLU and Center for American Progress leaders went in and
advised the Biden administration from the very beginning in this direction,
and then it took hold. And what do we see now.
(35:00):
The ACLU is gearing up to sue Trump and to
prevent the mass deportations by any means necessary. And they
do this by they say that people have rights as
soon as they step into the country. It's like, if
you are coming here illegally, you are violating the law
by entering this country. You should not have rights in
(35:22):
our system. That is itself a crime, and you need
to be deported. And I think most Americans understand that.
That's why we saw polls showing that people favor mass deportations,
like people know it's an issue. I grew up in Colorado.
I saw that video of the Venezuelan gang going door
(35:42):
to door in one of the complexes that wasn't too
far away from where I went to high school, and
I thought, this isn't my country anymore.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, And the shock of them saying it was only
one apartment building and JD vance in, I mean, what
a masterclass in looking at one?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Is one? Okay?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Is it okay to have a gang go into one
apartment building? I mean, at what point do you realize
how stupid you sound? And I think that's what happened
in this election. But that's the part that blows my
mind when I see these politicians. Now, I see the
left and all Democrats seem to be kind of flailing.
They're like, wait a minute, do I vote for the
(36:23):
Lake and Riley Act? Do I not vote for the
Lake and Riley Act?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Can I still preserve who I am and say that
I'm okay with people? I mean, we're talking about anybody
who crosses the border has broken the laws. So if
you're an illegal alien, you're a criminal illegal alien. And
they're like, well, did you actually commit a crime? Well,
you've all committed a crime, but we're talking about some
of the most KEENUS crimes and they will still not
say yeah that I think we should get rid of.
(36:48):
I mean, they are flailing. This has seemingly backfired on them.
It seems like the Woke to Puss has kind of
like strangled them with all of its arms. But we'll see,
maybe they'll get it untangled and they'll continue to thrive.
I just think that the other side, the Republican side,
needs to get in there and bring some common sense
(37:09):
pretty hard, and I'm hoping that we see that soon.
But honestly, I've been reading through your book and I'm like, man,
if you want to get smart on politics and understand
how we got where we are today, because I think
so many people are like, how did this happen?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
It just happened overnight. It didn't happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
You've got to read The Woke to Pus to totally
understand how it occurred and how we can fight back.
So I want you to tell people where they can
get it and.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
All of the details about the book.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Thank you. Yeah, so we have you know, it's on Amazon,
so just go. If you go and Google and search
woke to Pus, it'll be the first result. We're also
launching woketopus dot com where you can follow my substack
and all the articles that I've written about these issues.
Why this is a continuing threat because as you said,
the left is on the back foot right now. But
(38:00):
I also read an article this week where Alex Soros
was saying, I don't think I ever, I don't think
I want to run for Congress or run for office,
because I have more impact now. And he's saying that
right now while Trump is coming into office, and while
the Democrats feel like they're on the back foot. So
(38:20):
the woke to Puss is not going anywhere, and I think, unfortunately,
we're just going to see the resistance start to form.
The legacy. Media is still finding any way that they
can to demonize what Trump is doing in office right now,
and even though we saw the Washington Post agree with
most of his picks except four, they're still gearing up
(38:42):
to We know as soon as as soon as the
mass deportations start, they're going to find every SOB story
in the book, and they're going to push as hard
as they can. So be ready because there's going to
be a massive push from the legacy media, a massive
push from these radio stations that George Soros squat, a
(39:03):
massive push from these activist groups that's already starting where
they're going to say no, we need to resist, and
the people in the deep state are also going to resist.
So the book lays it out. You can go find
it on Amazon. Just search the Woke to Pus. It'll
be the first result.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And that massive push has massive money behind it, so
you have to learn all about it. You have to
figure it out. Tyler O'Neil will help you. Thank you
so much for coming on the podcast and sharing with
us today.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Thanks so much for having me Tutor.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Absolutely, and thank you all for joining us on the
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