May 2, 2025 • 35 mins
In this episode, Tudor and Kyle Olson discuss the recent visit of President Trump to Michigan, celebrating his first 100 days in office. They delve into the implications of Trump's policies on immigration and border security, the complex relationship between Trump and Governor Whitmer, and the economic challenges facing Michigan. The conversation highlights the political dynamics within the Democratic Party, particularly in light of Whitmer's aspirations for higher office and the potential impact of Trump's praise on her image. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We're doing this a
little bit different today. I have Kyle here with me,
so we are both going to be just chatting with
you about what happened in Michigan this week, which I
think is exciting a little bit weird. So you saw
President Trump come here to celebrate his one hundred days,
which has been really truly amazing. We've talked about it
(00:21):
a little bit on the program. We talked to Harrison
Fields about it on the program. It's been I mean,
I think that he's moving at really light speed. The
guy is he never slows down. Kyle and I were
both at the White House this week and we got
to talk to people there, and I don't know what
your experience was, but my experience was that everybody had
(00:42):
talked to was like, the guy never sleeps. We're literally
working all the time in a good way. I mean,
you could tell they were exhausted, but they were so
pleased with what they've done.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah. I talked to Ron Vittella, who is the Senior
Advisor for Customs and Border Protection, and we obviously were
talking about deportations and border security, and one of the
things that we talked about and I still I just
still can't get over the fact that, you know, one
of the things he said was illegal border crossings at
the southern border have decreased ninety seven percent.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right, But that just goes to show they weren't doing anything.
And not even they weren't doing anything. People are like, oh,
Joe Biden wasn't opening order. Yes he was, he was.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And they created this app that would allow people to
sort of fill out their information and then be caught
quote unquote caught and then released into the country. And
now what they've done is they've changed the app so
that it's actually now being used to self deport So
instead of having illegal aliens using the app to get
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into the country, they are now using the app to
get out of the country.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I wonder if that is I had because I
was talking about this on Newsmax and we were talking
about the deportation and do process, and I had someone
reach out to me and say, like, everybody that comes
into the country has to have due process. And I
know that when he had the what did he Alien
Enemies Act, that that takes that away for you. If
(02:12):
you are a gang member, if you are a part
of one of these designated terrorist organizations, then you can
be immediately deported. He has commented on the fact that
it is challenging to deport this many people when you
have to go through a court. So maybe that also
allows these people to, like, before you get caught, you
can go out and come back in the right way.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah. Well, and this idea that people are not getting
due process is false. You know, there's so many stories.
I read a lot of these stories on the ICE website,
and there's so many of these stories where individuals an
immigration judge will say they should be deported, but then
they just disappear. And now what the Trump administration is
(02:54):
doing is actually finding these people and arresting them. And
one of the things I said was, I just it's
so amazing to me because some of these raids and
arrests and all of that happened literally on inauguration day.
I mean it was he was sworn in at noon
and they started And I said, what that says to
someone who, you know, I think has common sense, is
(03:15):
that if you knew on inauguration day that where these
people were, then that means the Biden administration knew where
these people were. And these a lot of these are criminal,
illegal aliens. It's not just people who cross the border
illegally who are by definition criminals. It's murderers, it's rapists,
(03:36):
it's just horrible, horrible crimes that many of them were
committed in the United States.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I have been talked to and maybe I'm just
I don't know how I missed this, but I talked
to one of the guys from the CIA. Will have
that coming out, you guys are going to listen to that.
But one of the things that he said was, you know,
we found the mastermind behind Abbygate in February and arrested
him and he's brought back to this country. And I thought,
(04:03):
think about that. I mean, all this time, those thirteen
service members died, Joe Biden wouldn't even acknowledge it. In February,
thirty days in, they get the bad guy. You know,
this administration is not messing around. But that aside, that's
a whole that's a whole nother story. I want to
talk about Michigan. So I want to get back to
Michigan because there's kind of like the elephant in the
(04:25):
room that we have to address, and that is the
relationship that we're seeing between Governor Whitmer and President Trump,
and I think that I feel like I have to
address this because people come to me a lot and
they're like, how do you feel about him? Saying, No,
she's great, She's doing such a great job. And I
have some of the quotes here because he did come
to Michigan. We are we are so happy that he
(04:49):
did this because he came here and he said he's
going to essentially keep Selfridge Air Force Base open. And
this is important to us because it was really not officially,
but I think unofficially everybody kind of felt like it
was closing. There was you're laughing, I'm not laughing. Oh okay,
I thought you were laughing. You had a weird look
(05:10):
on your face. So I think unofficially we all thought
these airplanes or the fighter jets that they had there
are kind of being obsoleted. They needed to get a
new group of planes in there, or they were going
to shut down. And Whitmer knew that. That's why she
went when she went to the White House, she went
(05:31):
and said, I need you to keep Selfridge open. There's
a few elephants in this room. I mean, the relationship
between President Trump and Governor Whitmer, which is I'm not
knocking that because I think that him coming here and
saying that he's going to make sure that this is
secure and make sure that the base continues is critical.
But the other one is why didn't Biden do it? Well?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think Biden, Okay, Biden, this fleet needs to go somewhere.
And I don't think Biden really necessarily cared about Michigan.
I don't think even though he was looking at Whitmer
to be his running mate, it didn't really it didn't
really matter to him, and he would have been fine
if it went, you know, anywhere else. But this was
(06:14):
I think this was very necessary for Michigan, and it
was interesting. I think when when Whitmer, she spoke for
about thirty seconds at the announcement. Trump asked her to
come up and she was not prepared, and she said
she was not prepared. But when she did speak, you know,
she the first reason she said that this was necessary
was for the economy, which we can get into. You know,
(06:37):
what's happening with the Michigan economy, and she's desperate for
any sort of good news because it's almost universally bad.
But you know what. I think that what it showed
is that Trump is very engaged. When he has people
like the speaker of the Michigan House, Matt Hall, and
others reaching out to him talking to him about this,
(07:00):
He's listening and he is as we were just talking about.
I mean, he never stops working.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think the President takes it very seriously. I mean,
I know the President takes it very seriously when he
comes out and he says, I'm going to help you,
I'm going to bring this back, I'm going to do
things for your state. Michigan. He was in Michigan. He
ended his campaign in Michigan. He was in Michigan. I
think almost probably more than any other state. They spent
a lot of time. If it was him or surrogates
or the vice president, they were here quite a bit.
(07:27):
So Michigan was very important. He made a lot of
promises to us. I think that's interesting because the whole
one hundred Days theme as promises made, promises kept, and
many promises were made to Michigan. He came here to
say he's going to review the auto tariffs and give
some relief there that I think has been a big concern.
And that's kind of been one of the things that
(07:49):
the candidates here on the Democrat side have been bashing
him on already, like, oh my gosh, he's going to
destroy our industry. So he came here. That's meaningful. He
jumped on a plane, he came here rally. He had
whitmer at the Selfridge part of it. He calls out
to her, I think the thing that people are struggling
with is and he says it, which you know is
(08:12):
part of his charm. He says, I'm not supposed to
do that. She's a Democrat. They say, don't do that,
don't have her here. I said, no, she's going to
be here. She's done a very good job, frankly, and
she's been very much involved with the Republicans. They've worked
together on saving it. It was not easy. So thank
you very much, Gretchen. Good job. That's the elephant in
the room because people in the state are frustrated. Republicans
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in the state are frustrated. The state itself is in
total disarray. The roads were never fixed, the infrastructure is
forty first in the nation. That was what she ran on.
You know, we can go through education. Jobs are down, everything,
literacy is up. All of these things are a problem,
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but really the core of her campaign for both of
them was I'm going to fix the roads. The infrastructure
is forty first in the nation. So when he says
good job, that's frustrating to us because it feels like
it's a it's just another barrier to get over. In
twenty six is that she has a high approval rating
and he's now praising her. It's interesting for her because
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it's affected her both positively and negatively. I think the
JFK type Democrats are going, Okay, finally we have someone
who's willing to cross the aisle, and that really wasn't
her mo before. She is not good at this. She
has been a partisan her entire life, and it makes
her look like she's reasonable. You know, she's willing to
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go and sit down with him, and she was begging
from the beginning to get in there. So I think
that also was endearing to him. You know, it's not
easy for her to be deferential to someone else and say, oh,
he's important. You could tell in the way he called
her up she wasn't prepared, and she said so she
turns to him and she looks at him and she says,
(10:04):
so thank you for making this announcement. She doesn't know
how to be a leader when it comes to speaking.
She should have looked at the crowd and said, we're
very grateful to the president for coming out here, for
doing this for us, you know, the saves and she
could have had the numbers. This is an eight hundred
million dollars annually to this community. It's a huge impact.
(10:24):
It's five thousand jobs. We're very grateful to the president
for finally taking selfridge. Seriously, we've been working on this
for years. Her staff doesn't prepare her. But she's changed
since twenty two and twenty four. She's changed just in
this short period of time with him being president. So
what does that say about him as a leader that
he took her in there and you can see a
(10:44):
difference in her.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, he's he's ultimately he's a deal maker and so
he and he wants wins, and she is a if
you look at the rankings, she's a popular democratic governor.
And so if there's this sort of bipartisan thing that
he can do in a state that matters to him,
in a county that matters to him, a comb county,
you know, I think he's going to do that because
(11:07):
I think to some degree he's you know, he's thinking
about his legacy and what is good for the country. Now, she,
I think, is a different story because she wants to
run for president. That's been very obvious, and she's now
in this situation. But at the same time, and you
you wrote a column about this, at the same time,
(11:29):
she's addicted to federal money. She wants federal money for
any project she can possibly get, and well, where does
she go to get that? She goes to Trump, And
so she's got to get things from him in order
to get you some wins for herself. And so she
is in this situation where she can't be too mean,
(11:49):
she can't say things that are too not nice and
offend him and not get what she wants. So she
is she's sort of very hot and cold, whether it
is you know, he's saying nice things about her, but
then she's covering her face with the folder in the office,
and then she's.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Embracing immature politician. She is truly a politician. She's been
a politician her whole life. And I think that's critical
here too. He's been negotiating his whole life He makes
deals his whole life. He knows how to work this.
She hasn't really had to. You know, when you are
in the legislature, you're dealing with a very small group
of people and you're trying to figure out how to
(12:30):
manipulate your own leader. And that's the whole time. It's
just a few people that you're dealing with. He's dealt
with people across the globe. He's in a different position
than she is. She's figuring out what it is to
deal with someone on a higher level, because as governor
she really hasn't done that. He was in office the
first time, when she was at the beginning of her term,
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she wouldn't deal with him at all then because she
was still so partisan that she was just on the attack.
She was very immature as it as a governor, and
so she didn't she didn't let him in at all.
And then COVID hit and let's be honest, there wasn't
anybody talking to Biden. Now it's come out, the truth
is he wasn't even in there. So you know, she
knew that. You know that she the selfrage thing wasn't
(13:15):
going to go anywhere because she didn't know the right
people in the Pentagon to talk to at that point,
because it wasn't him. It wasn't going to be him.
Now she's in and new she's having a new experience
where she's decided to go directly to him. Says a
lot about him. She has trashed him. I mean she
trashed him the whole campaign. She was one of the
leaders on their side going around the country. Regardless of
(13:39):
her silly social media videos, she traveled around. She hasn't
been in the state of Michigan in a year. She
traveled around this country trying to get him to make
sure he didn't get an office. I think she's the
first Democrat governor he met with.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, she is. And she was a co chair for Biden,
and she was a co chair for Kamala so and
she was a vice chair the DNC when when Trump
was president. And don't forget the timeline here. So she
was elected in twenty eighteen, she took office in January
of twenty nineteen, and then the pandemic hits in twenty
(14:13):
twenty and then but then you're coming up to the
twenty twenty election and she's maneuvering to be Biden's vice
president well, so then she's making very partisan statements about Trump,
and she's going to you know, fight Trump because she
wants to be the running mate, which then obviously means
she at some point would be the nominee. And so
(14:36):
that that has been sort of the whole you know,
her whole mo. But now she's in a situation where
I think she's sort of trying to play I wouldn't
say the middle, but she's sort of in Democrat terms,
she's more of a moderate. That's I think she's she's
trying to show that she can work with other people.
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story in the presidential race. Because she is liked. I
think she does. I mean her numbers say that she's liked.
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I think that there would have been a huge machine
behind her. That would have been a genuine machine, you know.
I think people would have believed in her like the
Beyonces of the world. It wouldn't have been paid gigs.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well look at she probably well she may have won Michigan.
She would have had a better chance of winning Michigan.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And now and now people are saying Michigan is the
key to twenty eight, and Trump knows that. I think
he knows it's the key to twenty six and twenty
eight because he has to make sure he holds the
house in the Senate, so he's going to spend time here.
They're going to put a focus on Michigan. They also
know in twenty eight if she runs, Michigan's going to
go for her. I mean, I would love to say
(17:44):
that's not the case, but she has a high approval rating.
They calculate this stuff all the time, that he has
a very intelligent team. They're watching what's going on. The
Democrats are going to be watching because they've got this
situation now where AOC is taking up all the air
in the room. She's out there painting already for president.
She has these massive rallies. Whitmer has a few problems.
(18:06):
She doesn't understand the negotiations. She doesn't understand how to
talk about things. She's never had to. She lives in
a state where she's never had to do what Trump did,
where he went around the country and did these podcasts.
When she has been in these longer, longer form interviews,
she's come off as a very immature, not a leader,
(18:27):
very immature spokesperson, Like she's more of a spokesperson than
someone who can get dived deep into the issues and
understand it. I think that's how the state got into
this situation that we're in, where we have these high
energy costs, we have all of this regulation. My gosh,
even like this latest thing where they're going to gas
the geese, that's the choice that you're making. Like we
(18:47):
have a problem with massive amount of Canadian geese, and
so she's like, we're going to take them to gas
chambers and gas them.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's ways the right poison them, and don't forget. She
also wanted to tear down state forest to put up
solar panels right.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right in a state where it snows half the year, right.
I mean, these are not reasonable decisions. She's very easily
swayed by whoever's giving her money. I think that's a danger.
But she's also even yesterday when she did get to speak,
she comes in and she goes, I'm so damn happy.
This is a new thing too. On their side is
as much as we can swear, as much as we
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can try to sound cool to the young people, And
for some reason she finds that to be like the
cool thing to do, to come out and just curse. Then,
when I was working by the people that I work for,
I remember one guy specifically saying, like, you're never going
to win people over by cursing. That is a low
blow and you're not going to You are not going
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to not just win people over, but you are not
going to inspire people to work harder if you just
start swearing at them. And that's something I don't think
Democrats have figured out. But this is what she told
the Detroit News. So she said, I've been working on
this the whole time I've been governor, Wentm're told the
Detroit News. Sure enough, we got the best case scenario.
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We're really happy with this news. It's a huge. It's
huge for the Michigan economy, for our aerospace industry, for
all the men and women who work on and around Selfridge.
Is this recapitalization is a b FD And then she
said big future deal, you know, but we know what
she actually meant by that. Again, I think that maybe
(20:28):
I'm wrong, but I think this level of immaturity and
playing and pushing toward the edge. She's trying to keep
the far left while she's trying to say she's a moderate,
but maybe she sees Slockin and she goes man.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It worked for her, Yeah, but it's different because Slackin
did not have a primary to speak of. And what
we're seeing across the country is a base of the
Democrat Party is wildly anti Trump. Hates his guts there protesting.
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I mean they're literally burning tesla's, they're burning electric cars
because they hate the guy so much. And so this
idea that you know, she's going to sort of play
foot seat with Trump and that's going to translate in
the Democrat primary, I don't know. Maybe maybe it will,
Maybe there's a certain sector of you know, Democrat primary
(21:22):
voters that will go for that. But it just seems
to me like having a Republican like Trump praising a
Democrat governor like Whitmer is not going to end well
because think about the opposite. Think about if there was
a Joe Biden or a Barack Obama that was praising
a Republican Canada potential Republican candidate for president. Would any
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Republican voter primary voter really look at that candidate and go,
you know what, I think Biden or Obama they're right,
and maybe we should take that person's areas.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And I think that's the calculation that from the president's
team is, well, if you get her close enough to him,
you know she's playing on her side, playing with buyers.
She's going to get burned. You've got this political group
called five zero five zero one. I don't know what
that is, some political group out there that's like a
leftist group. They call this destructive enabling behavior. So she's
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getting attacked. It's not going well for her, like you said,
and I mean, I guess I am not calculating that
that she has a massive primary in the presidential and
as soon as those people can connect her to Trump
like she loves Trump, she's that's not going to work
for her. And Sluckin didn't have that, so that is
a different calculation for those two. The Seneca Project, they
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come out and said this is disqualifying for her. She
has disqualified herself for president. So you've already got some
leftists that are saying that she's disqualified herself. You've got
this guy who is the CEO of a news organization
that posted far right extremists, tried to kidnap Whitmer. Trump
and self later suggested it was a fake plot and
(23:02):
mocked it. He called her that woman in Michigan and
led a crowd that chant to lock her up. Today,
Whitmer hugged him on the tarmac. This is why Dems lose.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, maybe that's why they lose, or maybe she knows
the reality of the plot quote plot.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think that she had no choice.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Again, if you're addicted. He knows, he knows her weakness.
He knows how to identify people's weaknesses, and he knows
her weakness is federal money, because she's so desperate to
keep spending going that she wants more.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But also press releases. She loves the press release that
says Whitmer did this and this many jobs coming or
this many jobs saved. And that was something that one
of the groups just did. I think it was. Bridge
just wrote an article saying that she has had she
promised sixty thousand jobs, she ended up with thirteen thousand
for this billion dollars in money that she gave it
(24:00):
out well right, right exactly. But they actually pointed out,
which I was impressed. They pointed out that she was
always quick to put out promised jobs, right, but then
never naged yes or announced, but yes, announced, but never
came back and said, oh, those jobs didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Actually come because she just moves on.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But this is a this to her, the press release
is worth it, the news is worth it, and she's
she's been good about not talking to the news in Michigan.
I say good because that's what keeps her approval rating up.
She knows that if she doesn't talk to local news,
she can keep her approval rating up. So when people
are looking at these races, and the reason we're's going
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into so much detail about this is because I do
think a lot of Republicans went, WHOA, what did Trump do?
I think Trump is very smart about how he manages
everything that he does. So he comes into the state,
he knows that he helps Michigan. The only thing that's
interesting is that you have some state reps. John James
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is one who's running for governor in the state, and
he has said that he was fighting for Selfridge, but
that didn't Trump was not praising him, which I thought
was interesting that he chose not to put a Republican
on stage and say you did this, I think he
truly made the deal with Whitmer himself. I don't think
that this came from anything from the past. I think
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she went there, they sat down and talked about this,
and Trump is crediting her, and he wants to keep
everything else out of it other than they made a
bipartisan deal. And in some cases, I don't think Trump
is partisan at all. He's just a deal maker.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He's a deal maker. And again, what I think could
be happening here is that he's getting a win. He's
you know, cozying up to her, so he looks like
it's sort of you know, rounding his rough edges, and
it's probably tanking her career because again, if she wants
to go into a Democrat primary where you have people
(26:02):
just foaming at the mouth about you know, Trump is
and they're saying all these terrible things. Everybody knows what
we're talking about, and here she is literally hugging him.
That's unless there is a Unless she is calculating that
there's going to be so many anti Trump candidates in
a Democrat primary. Newsome Pritzker, you just go right down
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the list therein there's a tiny little sliver of Democrat
voters who are willing to be more bipartisan than you know,
burn down Trump. Maybe she's saying, that's the little sliver,
that's the lane I can run in, and that's what
I can use to try and win a primary. I
just don't see it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
We've got more coming out after this. But you make
a good point, because there is there's a diverse group
of haters. It won't be you're running. You've got AOC
who's a total, full bone socialist. She takes that group
that could have gone to new some that could have
down to Pritzker. She takes that group and pulls them
off completely. And that's not enough to win. And then
(27:06):
who what is Newsom have left? The real true Trump
haters that don't believe in socialism. He takes that group,
not enough to win. Maybe those traditional Democrats go with
Whitmer because there's no other choice, and she gets them,
and that's her calculation. There's no part of me that
doesn't think she's calculating right now because she is that
she's always run for the next position. She's never run,
(27:30):
and she's never been in her position cared about it.
And I think that what people need to know is
that she is a master gas layer. I mean all
of her ads were filled with lies. All of her
videos are filled with lies, and she just tells you
you should be happy living here because this is I've
done all these great things. The roads are fixed. The
(27:50):
roads aren't fixed. Like I said, forty first in infrastructure,
but first across the board. Education's a mess. Crime is
a mess. We have five of the most dangerous, twenty
most dangerous cities in the country. Like the state is
a mess, and that's where the American people can't be
gas lit by what she's doing with Trump. I think
she also thinks she can win over the middle and
(28:12):
she probably figures a lot of these Trump voters. We
know they come out for Trump only. Maybe she can
win them over.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Maybe, But I just doubt it, and.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I don't think she can. I think she's arrogant enough
to think she can.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, I think she'll be sorely mistaken. You know, there's
a site that the Midwesterner reads a lot called wallet Hub,
and it's rankings of all kinds of different I mean,
you cited the forty first for education. We just wrote
a story or published a story about Michigan is thirty
fifth for working moms, and here you've got three working
(28:49):
moms as the governor, the Secretary of State, and the
attorney general and the Senate Majority leader, and yet Michigan's
thirty fifth. There was a story today that Michigan is
eleventh for drug problems, so at least we're sort of
high up in the rankings for something. I'm not sure
drug problems is something that we should be proud of now.
(29:11):
But the point is she ignores all of these things.
She doesn't engage with the media. She will just pretend
like everything is great. And I guess when you do that,
you're not fixing problems, but your approval rating remains high.
So I suppose, for a self serving reason, that's a
(29:31):
good thing. But there's a whole lot of problems going
on in Michigan, and she just is I mean, she
literally I didn't know she travels so much that I
think people don't even pay attention to it anymore. But
I read on Monday morning that she was in Los
Angeles over the weekend for a book festival, and she
ironically said, I'm not going anywhere. And she said that
(29:55):
when she's twenty two hundred miles away from Michigan and
the Michigan media. The Midwesterner wrote about it based on
a report from the La Times, which did an interview
with her. The Michigan media didn't even cover it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
But well, i mean, what does she even mean by
I'm not going anywhere? I mean she's got two years
left of her term. She can't run for anything before
that anyway, So of course she's not going anywhere. She's
going to finish out her term. I mean, that's the
thing she's and that's the thing that they lap up like, oh,
that's great. Well, she's been going somewhere every time there's
been an opportunity. She's just been thrown to the side.
You know, she would have gladly gone to Washington and
(30:31):
been his vice president, but she was thrown to the side.
The other thing I'll say before we end is you
brought up the other people in the state. They're not happy.
They are all these people that are running for office.
They are in primaries. Josin Benson's in a primary with
the lieutenant governor for governor. She is not happy. She's
calling him out as all the bad things that they say,
(30:53):
dictator whatever, that you can't cozy up to him. Dana Nessel,
the attorney general, she's running her own town hall at
the same time that he's here. I mean, they are
frustrated with whitmerk Dana Essa when we were at the
State of the State wouldn't even stand up for her.
They do not like this, and you've got a lot
of the legislature that absolutely hates Trump and they are
going to be it's a struggle because they're mad. Well,
(31:16):
you said, my Song, one of our state reps was
mad that they that they didn't have session. They're getting
Selfridge right.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So her name is my Song. She's a state representative
from McComb County, which is where the bases that we're
talking about. And the speaker who was with the President
at Selfridge canceled session for that day because you know,
they were other places. And so my song posts this
(31:44):
video from the floor of the House of Representatives complaining
that they don't have session, and.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So they in her district she's getting in.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
County, Yes, her district is right there. And so it's
like what Trump has done is he is divided the
Democrats because Whitmer, as we've been talking, you know, is
doing what she can to try and get money from him.
But then you've got Jocelyn Benson, Dana Nessel, etc. Who
are just foaming at the mouth about how much they
hate him, and it's like they're trying to outdo each
(32:14):
other about who hates him more. And so he's got
them all and then they're you know, criticizing Whitmer, and
he's got them all fighting with each other.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It is really the genius of President Trump, because remember,
you have to get through. They all have to get
through twenty six, so he can do whatever he wants
to protect the people of Michigan. And that's his that
is really his love is the American people. And so
he is protecting the American people. He promised Michigan, he
made Michigan promises. He's coming through with them. Whitmer's gone
(32:48):
in twenty six. She has to start campaigning for president.
She has wrecked her brand, and then all of these
people that have said they hate him they have to
now campaign here. And he knows Slotkin was running with
him in her commercials, so he knows that he plays
well in Michigan. If you can destroy Jocelyn Benson and
(33:10):
Gilchrist and anybody else who's running by having them come
out now and trash Whitmer, they have no chance or
they're in trouble. I mean, the Democrats always have a
lot of money, but I think what he's doing is
very smart. Yeah, I agree, so we so that to me,
that was important to break down. I think a lot
of people have gone, oh my goodness, how can he
(33:31):
cozy up to Whitmer. I will say, I don't love
when he says she's doing a great job. But he
has a plan. The guy knows what he's doing. He's
been incredible these first hundred days. What you talked about
with and I know you're releasing some of that on
the Midwesterner, I just want to get that out. What
you talked about when you were in Washington at the
White House, some of the stuff about deported deporting people
(33:54):
that is so critical to the safety of our country
and so clear that it could happen Instantaneouslee.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It's I still can't get over the fact that it
could just happen almost instantly, and just by changing presidents
and changing policy, you had illegal crossings go from according
to Tehran, about seven thousand per day under the Biden
administration to when I talked to him the night before,
(34:23):
it was less than three hundred, and so you've got
a and he said, it's a ninety seven percent decrease.
It's just it's stunning. All because Trump says, don't come
to the country, we're deporting you, and people are listening
that to that, and they're changing, changing their tactics.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Well, and I know they were saying to Tom Homan, oh,
he said Mexico was going to pay. And Tom Homan
made a great point, Mexico put troops on the border.
What do you think that is? And people have been deterred.
So we I mean, I feel blessed that we were
asked to be there at the White House for the
first one hundred day celebration. I hope we'll be able
to bring more from the White House to you guys,
and you know, we'll just continue to break some of
(35:03):
these things down, especially as you see certain people rising
in the ranks toward twenty eight and we want to
make sure that we're protecting what's happening. But I think
also critically, you're going to hear us talk a lot
about twenty six too, because he has to secure the House.
He has to make sure that he has the majority
in the House and the Senate, and there's a big
Senate seat here there's a few other Senate seats that
we're going to be watching, so we will continue to
(35:25):
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have a bleast dingy
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We're doing this a
little bit different today. I have Kyle here with me,
so we are both going to be just chatting with
you about what happened in Michigan this week, which I
think is exciting a little bit weird. So you saw
President Trump come here to celebrate his one hundred days,
which has been really truly amazing. We've talked about it
(00:21):
a little bit on the program. We talked to Harrison
Fields about it on the program. It's been I mean,
I think that he's moving at really light speed. The
guy is he never slows down. Kyle and I were
both at the White House this week and we got
to talk to people there, and I don't know what
your experience was, but my experience was that everybody had
(00:42):
talked to was like, the guy never sleeps. We're literally
working all the time in a good way. I mean,
you could tell they were exhausted, but they were so
pleased with what they've done.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah. I talked to Ron Vittella, who is the Senior
Advisor for Customs and Border Protection, and we obviously were
talking about deportations and border security, and one of the
things that we talked about and I still I just
still can't get over the fact that, you know, one
of the things he said was illegal border crossings at
the southern border have decreased ninety seven percent.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Right, But that just goes to show they weren't doing anything.
And not even they weren't doing anything. People are like, oh,
Joe Biden wasn't opening order. Yes he was, he was.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And they created this app that would allow people to
sort of fill out their information and then be caught
quote unquote caught and then released into the country. And
now what they've done is they've changed the app so
that it's actually now being used to self deport So
instead of having illegal aliens using the app to get
(01:47):
into the country, they are now using the app to
get out of the country.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So I wonder if that is I had because I
was talking about this on Newsmax and we were talking
about the deportation and do process, and I had someone
reach out to me and say, like, everybody that comes
into the country has to have due process. And I
know that when he had the what did he Alien
Enemies Act, that that takes that away for you. If
(02:12):
you are a gang member, if you are a part
of one of these designated terrorist organizations, then you can
be immediately deported. He has commented on the fact that
it is challenging to deport this many people when you
have to go through a court. So maybe that also
allows these people to, like, before you get caught, you
can go out and come back in the right way.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah. Well, and this idea that people are not getting
due process is false. You know, there's so many stories.
I read a lot of these stories on the ICE website,
and there's so many of these stories where individuals an
immigration judge will say they should be deported, but then
they just disappear. And now what the Trump administration is
(02:54):
doing is actually finding these people and arresting them. And
one of the things I said was, I just it's
so amazing to me because some of these raids and
arrests and all of that happened literally on inauguration day.
I mean it was he was sworn in at noon
and they started And I said, what that says to
someone who, you know, I think has common sense, is
(03:15):
that if you knew on inauguration day that where these
people were, then that means the Biden administration knew where
these people were. And these a lot of these are criminal,
illegal aliens. It's not just people who cross the border
illegally who are by definition criminals. It's murderers, it's rapists,
(03:36):
it's just horrible, horrible crimes that many of them were
committed in the United States.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I have been talked to and maybe I'm just
I don't know how I missed this, but I talked
to one of the guys from the CIA. Will have
that coming out, you guys are going to listen to that.
But one of the things that he said was, you know,
we found the mastermind behind Abbygate in February and arrested
him and he's brought back to this country. And I thought,
(04:03):
think about that. I mean, all this time, those thirteen
service members died, Joe Biden wouldn't even acknowledge it. In February,
thirty days in, they get the bad guy. You know,
this administration is not messing around. But that aside, that's
a whole that's a whole nother story. I want to
talk about Michigan. So I want to get back to
Michigan because there's kind of like the elephant in the
(04:25):
room that we have to address, and that is the
relationship that we're seeing between Governor Whitmer and President Trump,
and I think that I feel like I have to
address this because people come to me a lot and
they're like, how do you feel about him? Saying, No,
she's great, She's doing such a great job. And I
have some of the quotes here because he did come
to Michigan. We are we are so happy that he
(04:49):
did this because he came here and he said he's
going to essentially keep Selfridge Air Force Base open. And
this is important to us because it was really not officially,
but I think unofficially everybody kind of felt like it
was closing. There was you're laughing, I'm not laughing. Oh okay,
I thought you were laughing. You had a weird look
(05:10):
on your face. So I think unofficially we all thought
these airplanes or the fighter jets that they had there
are kind of being obsoleted. They needed to get a
new group of planes in there, or they were going
to shut down. And Whitmer knew that. That's why she
went when she went to the White House, she went
(05:31):
and said, I need you to keep Selfridge open. There's
a few elephants in this room. I mean, the relationship
between President Trump and Governor Whitmer, which is I'm not
knocking that because I think that him coming here and
saying that he's going to make sure that this is
secure and make sure that the base continues is critical.
But the other one is why didn't Biden do it? Well?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think Biden, Okay, Biden, this fleet needs to go somewhere.
And I don't think Biden really necessarily cared about Michigan.
I don't think even though he was looking at Whitmer
to be his running mate, it didn't really it didn't
really matter to him, and he would have been fine
if it went, you know, anywhere else. But this was
(06:14):
I think this was very necessary for Michigan, and it
was interesting. I think when when Whitmer, she spoke for
about thirty seconds at the announcement. Trump asked her to
come up and she was not prepared, and she said
she was not prepared. But when she did speak, you know,
she the first reason she said that this was necessary
was for the economy, which we can get into. You know,
(06:37):
what's happening with the Michigan economy, and she's desperate for
any sort of good news because it's almost universally bad.
But you know what. I think that what it showed
is that Trump is very engaged. When he has people
like the speaker of the Michigan House, Matt Hall, and
others reaching out to him talking to him about this,
(07:00):
He's listening and he is as we were just talking about.
I mean, he never stops working.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think the President takes it very seriously. I mean,
I know the President takes it very seriously when he
comes out and he says, I'm going to help you,
I'm going to bring this back, I'm going to do
things for your state. Michigan. He was in Michigan. He
ended his campaign in Michigan. He was in Michigan. I
think almost probably more than any other state. They spent
a lot of time. If it was him or surrogates
or the vice president, they were here quite a bit.
(07:27):
So Michigan was very important. He made a lot of
promises to us. I think that's interesting because the whole
one hundred Days theme as promises made, promises kept, and
many promises were made to Michigan. He came here to
say he's going to review the auto tariffs and give
some relief there that I think has been a big concern.
And that's kind of been one of the things that
(07:49):
the candidates here on the Democrat side have been bashing
him on already, like, oh my gosh, he's going to
destroy our industry. So he came here. That's meaningful. He
jumped on a plane, he came here rally. He had
whitmer at the Selfridge part of it. He calls out
to her, I think the thing that people are struggling
with is and he says it, which you know is
(08:12):
part of his charm. He says, I'm not supposed to
do that. She's a Democrat. They say, don't do that,
don't have her here. I said, no, she's going to
be here. She's done a very good job, frankly, and
she's been very much involved with the Republicans. They've worked
together on saving it. It was not easy. So thank
you very much, Gretchen. Good job. That's the elephant in
the room because people in the state are frustrated. Republicans
(08:36):
in the state are frustrated. The state itself is in
total disarray. The roads were never fixed, the infrastructure is
forty first in the nation. That was what she ran on.
You know, we can go through education. Jobs are down, everything,
literacy is up. All of these things are a problem,
(08:56):
but really the core of her campaign for both of
them was I'm going to fix the roads. The infrastructure
is forty first in the nation. So when he says
good job, that's frustrating to us because it feels like
it's a it's just another barrier to get over. In
twenty six is that she has a high approval rating
and he's now praising her. It's interesting for her because
(09:19):
it's affected her both positively and negatively. I think the
JFK type Democrats are going, Okay, finally we have someone
who's willing to cross the aisle, and that really wasn't
her mo before. She is not good at this. She
has been a partisan her entire life, and it makes
her look like she's reasonable. You know, she's willing to
(09:42):
go and sit down with him, and she was begging
from the beginning to get in there. So I think
that also was endearing to him. You know, it's not
easy for her to be deferential to someone else and say, oh,
he's important. You could tell in the way he called
her up she wasn't prepared, and she said so she
turns to him and she looks at him and she says,
(10:04):
so thank you for making this announcement. She doesn't know
how to be a leader when it comes to speaking.
She should have looked at the crowd and said, we're
very grateful to the president for coming out here, for
doing this for us, you know, the saves and she
could have had the numbers. This is an eight hundred
million dollars annually to this community. It's a huge impact.
(10:24):
It's five thousand jobs. We're very grateful to the president
for finally taking selfridge. Seriously, we've been working on this
for years. Her staff doesn't prepare her. But she's changed
since twenty two and twenty four. She's changed just in
this short period of time with him being president. So
what does that say about him as a leader that
he took her in there and you can see a
(10:44):
difference in her.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, he's he's ultimately he's a deal maker and so
he and he wants wins, and she is a if
you look at the rankings, she's a popular democratic governor.
And so if there's this sort of bipartisan thing that
he can do in a state that matters to him,
in a county that matters to him, a comb county,
you know, I think he's going to do that because
(11:07):
I think to some degree he's you know, he's thinking
about his legacy and what is good for the country. Now, she,
I think, is a different story because she wants to
run for president. That's been very obvious, and she's now
in this situation. But at the same time, and you
you wrote a column about this, at the same time,
(11:29):
she's addicted to federal money. She wants federal money for
any project she can possibly get, and well, where does
she go to get that? She goes to Trump, And
so she's got to get things from him in order
to get you some wins for herself. And so she
is in this situation where she can't be too mean,
(11:49):
she can't say things that are too not nice and
offend him and not get what she wants. So she
is she's sort of very hot and cold, whether it
is you know, he's saying nice things about her, but
then she's covering her face with the folder in the office,
and then she's.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Embracing immature politician. She is truly a politician. She's been
a politician her whole life. And I think that's critical
here too. He's been negotiating his whole life He makes
deals his whole life. He knows how to work this.
She hasn't really had to. You know, when you are
in the legislature, you're dealing with a very small group
of people and you're trying to figure out how to
(12:30):
manipulate your own leader. And that's the whole time. It's
just a few people that you're dealing with. He's dealt
with people across the globe. He's in a different position
than she is. She's figuring out what it is to
deal with someone on a higher level, because as governor
she really hasn't done that. He was in office the
first time, when she was at the beginning of her term,
(12:53):
she wouldn't deal with him at all then because she
was still so partisan that she was just on the attack.
She was very immature as it as a governor, and
so she didn't she didn't let him in at all.
And then COVID hit and let's be honest, there wasn't
anybody talking to Biden. Now it's come out, the truth
is he wasn't even in there. So you know, she
knew that. You know that she the selfrage thing wasn't
(13:15):
going to go anywhere because she didn't know the right
people in the Pentagon to talk to at that point,
because it wasn't him. It wasn't going to be him.
Now she's in and new she's having a new experience
where she's decided to go directly to him. Says a
lot about him. She has trashed him. I mean she
trashed him the whole campaign. She was one of the
leaders on their side going around the country. Regardless of
(13:39):
her silly social media videos, she traveled around. She hasn't
been in the state of Michigan in a year. She
traveled around this country trying to get him to make
sure he didn't get an office. I think she's the
first Democrat governor he met with.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, she is. And she was a co chair for Biden,
and she was a co chair for Kamala so and
she was a vice chair the DNC when when Trump
was president. And don't forget the timeline here. So she
was elected in twenty eighteen, she took office in January
of twenty nineteen, and then the pandemic hits in twenty
(14:13):
twenty and then but then you're coming up to the
twenty twenty election and she's maneuvering to be Biden's vice
president well, so then she's making very partisan statements about Trump,
and she's going to you know, fight Trump because she
wants to be the running mate, which then obviously means
she at some point would be the nominee. And so
(14:36):
that that has been sort of the whole you know,
her whole mo. But now she's in a situation where
I think she's sort of trying to play I wouldn't
say the middle, but she's sort of in Democrat terms,
she's more of a moderate. That's I think she's she's
trying to show that she can work with other people.
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story in the presidential race. Because she is liked. I
think she does. I mean her numbers say that she's liked.
(17:06):
I think that there would have been a huge machine
behind her. That would have been a genuine machine, you know.
I think people would have believed in her like the
Beyonces of the world. It wouldn't have been paid gigs.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well look at she probably well she may have won Michigan.
She would have had a better chance of winning Michigan.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And now and now people are saying Michigan is the
key to twenty eight, and Trump knows that. I think
he knows it's the key to twenty six and twenty
eight because he has to make sure he holds the
house in the Senate, so he's going to spend time here.
They're going to put a focus on Michigan. They also
know in twenty eight if she runs, Michigan's going to
go for her. I mean, I would love to say
(17:44):
that's not the case, but she has a high approval rating.
They calculate this stuff all the time, that he has
a very intelligent team. They're watching what's going on. The
Democrats are going to be watching because they've got this
situation now where AOC is taking up all the air
in the room. She's out there painting already for president.
She has these massive rallies. Whitmer has a few problems.
(18:06):
She doesn't understand the negotiations. She doesn't understand how to
talk about things. She's never had to. She lives in
a state where she's never had to do what Trump did,
where he went around the country and did these podcasts.
When she has been in these longer, longer form interviews,
she's come off as a very immature, not a leader,
(18:27):
very immature spokesperson, Like she's more of a spokesperson than
someone who can get dived deep into the issues and
understand it. I think that's how the state got into
this situation that we're in, where we have these high
energy costs, we have all of this regulation. My gosh,
even like this latest thing where they're going to gas
the geese, that's the choice that you're making. Like we
(18:47):
have a problem with massive amount of Canadian geese, and
so she's like, we're going to take them to gas
chambers and gas them.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
That's ways the right poison them, and don't forget. She
also wanted to tear down state forest to put up
solar panels right.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right in a state where it snows half the year, right.
I mean, these are not reasonable decisions. She's very easily
swayed by whoever's giving her money. I think that's a danger.
But she's also even yesterday when she did get to speak,
she comes in and she goes, I'm so damn happy.
This is a new thing too. On their side is
as much as we can swear, as much as we
(19:24):
can try to sound cool to the young people, And
for some reason she finds that to be like the
cool thing to do, to come out and just curse. Then,
when I was working by the people that I work for,
I remember one guy specifically saying, like, you're never going
to win people over by cursing. That is a low
blow and you're not going to You are not going
(19:45):
to not just win people over, but you are not
going to inspire people to work harder if you just
start swearing at them. And that's something I don't think
Democrats have figured out. But this is what she told
the Detroit News. So she said, I've been working on
this the whole time I've been governor, Wentm're told the
Detroit News. Sure enough, we got the best case scenario.
(20:05):
We're really happy with this news. It's a huge. It's
huge for the Michigan economy, for our aerospace industry, for
all the men and women who work on and around Selfridge.
Is this recapitalization is a b FD And then she
said big future deal, you know, but we know what
she actually meant by that. Again, I think that maybe
(20:28):
I'm wrong, but I think this level of immaturity and
playing and pushing toward the edge. She's trying to keep
the far left while she's trying to say she's a moderate,
but maybe she sees Slockin and she goes man.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It worked for her, Yeah, but it's different because Slackin
did not have a primary to speak of. And what
we're seeing across the country is a base of the
Democrat Party is wildly anti Trump. Hates his guts there protesting.
(21:01):
I mean they're literally burning tesla's, they're burning electric cars
because they hate the guy so much. And so this
idea that you know, she's going to sort of play
foot seat with Trump and that's going to translate in
the Democrat primary, I don't know. Maybe maybe it will,
Maybe there's a certain sector of you know, Democrat primary
(21:22):
voters that will go for that. But it just seems
to me like having a Republican like Trump praising a
Democrat governor like Whitmer is not going to end well
because think about the opposite. Think about if there was
a Joe Biden or a Barack Obama that was praising
a Republican Canada potential Republican candidate for president. Would any
(21:46):
Republican voter primary voter really look at that candidate and go,
you know what, I think Biden or Obama they're right,
and maybe we should take that person's areas.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And I think that's the calculation that from the president's
team is, well, if you get her close enough to him,
you know she's playing on her side, playing with buyers.
She's going to get burned. You've got this political group
called five zero five zero one. I don't know what
that is, some political group out there that's like a
leftist group. They call this destructive enabling behavior. So she's
(22:19):
getting attacked. It's not going well for her, like you said,
and I mean, I guess I am not calculating that
that she has a massive primary in the presidential and
as soon as those people can connect her to Trump
like she loves Trump, she's that's not going to work
for her. And Sluckin didn't have that, so that is
a different calculation for those two. The Seneca Project, they
(22:41):
come out and said this is disqualifying for her. She
has disqualified herself for president. So you've already got some
leftists that are saying that she's disqualified herself. You've got
this guy who is the CEO of a news organization
that posted far right extremists, tried to kidnap Whitmer. Trump
and self later suggested it was a fake plot and
(23:02):
mocked it. He called her that woman in Michigan and
led a crowd that chant to lock her up. Today,
Whitmer hugged him on the tarmac. This is why Dems lose.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, maybe that's why they lose, or maybe she knows
the reality of the plot quote plot.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I think that she had no choice.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Again, if you're addicted. He knows, he knows her weakness.
He knows how to identify people's weaknesses, and he knows
her weakness is federal money, because she's so desperate to
keep spending going that she wants more.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But also press releases. She loves the press release that
says Whitmer did this and this many jobs coming or
this many jobs saved. And that was something that one
of the groups just did. I think it was. Bridge
just wrote an article saying that she has had she
promised sixty thousand jobs, she ended up with thirteen thousand
for this billion dollars in money that she gave it
(24:00):
out well right, right exactly. But they actually pointed out,
which I was impressed. They pointed out that she was
always quick to put out promised jobs, right, but then
never naged yes or announced, but yes, announced, but never
came back and said, oh, those jobs didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Actually come because she just moves on.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But this is a this to her, the press release
is worth it, the news is worth it, and she's
she's been good about not talking to the news in Michigan.
I say good because that's what keeps her approval rating up.
She knows that if she doesn't talk to local news,
she can keep her approval rating up. So when people
are looking at these races, and the reason we're's going
(24:41):
into so much detail about this is because I do
think a lot of Republicans went, WHOA, what did Trump do?
I think Trump is very smart about how he manages
everything that he does. So he comes into the state,
he knows that he helps Michigan. The only thing that's
interesting is that you have some state reps. John James
(25:03):
is one who's running for governor in the state, and
he has said that he was fighting for Selfridge, but
that didn't Trump was not praising him, which I thought
was interesting that he chose not to put a Republican
on stage and say you did this, I think he
truly made the deal with Whitmer himself. I don't think
that this came from anything from the past. I think
(25:25):
she went there, they sat down and talked about this,
and Trump is crediting her, and he wants to keep
everything else out of it other than they made a
bipartisan deal. And in some cases, I don't think Trump
is partisan at all. He's just a deal maker.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He's a deal maker. And again, what I think could
be happening here is that he's getting a win. He's
you know, cozying up to her, so he looks like
it's sort of you know, rounding his rough edges, and
it's probably tanking her career because again, if she wants
to go into a Democrat primary where you have people
(26:02):
just foaming at the mouth about you know, Trump is
and they're saying all these terrible things. Everybody knows what
we're talking about, and here she is literally hugging him.
That's unless there is a Unless she is calculating that
there's going to be so many anti Trump candidates in
a Democrat primary. Newsome Pritzker, you just go right down
(26:25):
the list therein there's a tiny little sliver of Democrat
voters who are willing to be more bipartisan than you know,
burn down Trump. Maybe she's saying, that's the little sliver,
that's the lane I can run in, and that's what
I can use to try and win a primary. I
just don't see it.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
We've got more coming out after this. But you make
a good point, because there is there's a diverse group
of haters. It won't be you're running. You've got AOC
who's a total, full bone socialist. She takes that group
that could have gone to new some that could have
down to Pritzker. She takes that group and pulls them
off completely. And that's not enough to win. And then
(27:06):
who what is Newsom have left? The real true Trump
haters that don't believe in socialism. He takes that group,
not enough to win. Maybe those traditional Democrats go with
Whitmer because there's no other choice, and she gets them,
and that's her calculation. There's no part of me that
doesn't think she's calculating right now because she is that
she's always run for the next position. She's never run,
(27:30):
and she's never been in her position cared about it.
And I think that what people need to know is
that she is a master gas layer. I mean all
of her ads were filled with lies. All of her
videos are filled with lies, and she just tells you
you should be happy living here because this is I've
done all these great things. The roads are fixed. The
(27:50):
roads aren't fixed. Like I said, forty first in infrastructure,
but first across the board. Education's a mess. Crime is
a mess. We have five of the most dangerous, twenty
most dangerous cities in the country. Like the state is
a mess, and that's where the American people can't be
gas lit by what she's doing with Trump. I think
she also thinks she can win over the middle and
(28:12):
she probably figures a lot of these Trump voters. We
know they come out for Trump only. Maybe she can
win them over.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Maybe, But I just doubt it, and.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I don't think she can. I think she's arrogant enough
to think she can.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, I think she'll be sorely mistaken. You know, there's
a site that the Midwesterner reads a lot called wallet Hub,
and it's rankings of all kinds of different I mean,
you cited the forty first for education. We just wrote
a story or published a story about Michigan is thirty
fifth for working moms, and here you've got three working
(28:49):
moms as the governor, the Secretary of State, and the
attorney general and the Senate Majority leader, and yet Michigan's
thirty fifth. There was a story today that Michigan is
eleventh for drug problems, so at least we're sort of
high up in the rankings for something. I'm not sure
drug problems is something that we should be proud of now.
(29:11):
But the point is she ignores all of these things.
She doesn't engage with the media. She will just pretend
like everything is great. And I guess when you do that,
you're not fixing problems, but your approval rating remains high.
So I suppose, for a self serving reason, that's a
(29:31):
good thing. But there's a whole lot of problems going
on in Michigan, and she just is I mean, she
literally I didn't know she travels so much that I
think people don't even pay attention to it anymore. But
I read on Monday morning that she was in Los
Angeles over the weekend for a book festival, and she
ironically said, I'm not going anywhere. And she said that
(29:55):
when she's twenty two hundred miles away from Michigan and
the Michigan media. The Midwesterner wrote about it based on
a report from the La Times, which did an interview
with her. The Michigan media didn't even cover it.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
But well, i mean, what does she even mean by
I'm not going anywhere? I mean she's got two years
left of her term. She can't run for anything before
that anyway, So of course she's not going anywhere. She's
going to finish out her term. I mean, that's the
thing she's and that's the thing that they lap up like, oh,
that's great. Well, she's been going somewhere every time there's
been an opportunity. She's just been thrown to the side.
You know, she would have gladly gone to Washington and
(30:31):
been his vice president, but she was thrown to the side.
The other thing I'll say before we end is you
brought up the other people in the state. They're not happy.
They are all these people that are running for office.
They are in primaries. Josin Benson's in a primary with
the lieutenant governor for governor. She is not happy. She's
calling him out as all the bad things that they say,
(30:53):
dictator whatever, that you can't cozy up to him. Dana Nessel,
the attorney general, she's running her own town hall at
the same time that he's here. I mean, they are
frustrated with whitmerk Dana Essa when we were at the
State of the State wouldn't even stand up for her.
They do not like this, and you've got a lot
of the legislature that absolutely hates Trump and they are
going to be it's a struggle because they're mad. Well,
(31:16):
you said, my Song, one of our state reps was
mad that they that they didn't have session. They're getting
Selfridge right.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So her name is my Song. She's a state representative
from McComb County, which is where the bases that we're
talking about. And the speaker who was with the President
at Selfridge canceled session for that day because you know,
they were other places. And so my song posts this
(31:44):
video from the floor of the House of Representatives complaining
that they don't have session, and.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
So they in her district she's getting in.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
County, Yes, her district is right there. And so it's
like what Trump has done is he is divided the
Democrats because Whitmer, as we've been talking, you know, is
doing what she can to try and get money from him.
But then you've got Jocelyn Benson, Dana Nessel, etc. Who
are just foaming at the mouth about how much they
hate him, and it's like they're trying to outdo each
(32:14):
other about who hates him more. And so he's got
them all and then they're you know, criticizing Whitmer, and
he's got them all fighting with each other.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It is really the genius of President Trump, because remember,
you have to get through. They all have to get
through twenty six, so he can do whatever he wants
to protect the people of Michigan. And that's his that
is really his love is the American people. And so
he is protecting the American people. He promised Michigan, he
made Michigan promises. He's coming through with them. Whitmer's gone
(32:48):
in twenty six. She has to start campaigning for president.
She has wrecked her brand, and then all of these
people that have said they hate him they have to
now campaign here. And he knows Slotkin was running with
him in her commercials, so he knows that he plays
well in Michigan. If you can destroy Jocelyn Benson and
(33:10):
Gilchrist and anybody else who's running by having them come
out now and trash Whitmer, they have no chance or
they're in trouble. I mean, the Democrats always have a
lot of money, but I think what he's doing is
very smart. Yeah, I agree, so we so that to me,
that was important to break down. I think a lot
of people have gone, oh my goodness, how can he
(33:31):
cozy up to Whitmer. I will say, I don't love
when he says she's doing a great job. But he
has a plan. The guy knows what he's doing. He's
been incredible these first hundred days. What you talked about
with and I know you're releasing some of that on
the Midwesterner, I just want to get that out. What
you talked about when you were in Washington at the
White House, some of the stuff about deported deporting people
(33:54):
that is so critical to the safety of our country
and so clear that it could happen Instantaneouslee.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It's I still can't get over the fact that it
could just happen almost instantly, and just by changing presidents
and changing policy, you had illegal crossings go from according
to Tehran, about seven thousand per day under the Biden
administration to when I talked to him the night before,
(34:23):
it was less than three hundred, and so you've got
a and he said, it's a ninety seven percent decrease.
It's just it's stunning. All because Trump says, don't come
to the country, we're deporting you, and people are listening
that to that, and they're changing, changing their tactics.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Well, and I know they were saying to Tom Homan, oh,
he said Mexico was going to pay. And Tom Homan
made a great point, Mexico put troops on the border.
What do you think that is? And people have been deterred.
So we I mean, I feel blessed that we were
asked to be there at the White House for the
first one hundred day celebration. I hope we'll be able
to bring more from the White House to you guys,
and you know, we'll just continue to break some of
(35:03):
these things down, especially as you see certain people rising
in the ranks toward twenty eight and we want to
make sure that we're protecting what's happening. But I think
also critically, you're going to hear us talk a lot
about twenty six too, because he has to secure the House.
He has to make sure that he has the majority
in the House and the Senate, and there's a big
Senate seat here there's a few other Senate seats that
we're going to be watching, so we will continue to
(35:25):
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