May 5, 2025 • 31 mins
In this episode, Tudor broadcasts from the Job Creators Network Summit & Gala and is joined by pollster John McLaughlin to discuss the current political landscape as the 2024 elections approach. They explore the resilience of Donald Trump, the importance of local governance, and the impact of economic policies on states. The conversation highlights the significance of tax cuts, the role of small businesses in job creation, and the need for Republicans to adopt an offensive strategy against Democratic policies. The Tudor Dixon Podcast is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast. For more visit TudorDixonPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We get to be at the Job Creator's Network summit
today and I'm so glad that we have with us
today a pollster, John McLaughlin is here with us. I
was just listening to what you said in the room,
so many valuable points. I find this to be one
of the most interesting conversations for Republicans right now because
we're sitting kind of on this pedestal. We feel really
(00:23):
confident about going into twenty six and that can cause
us to become a little lazy, right and.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You get complacent.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You think that because we because President Trump did so
well when you think of everything they threw at him. Sir,
I've always worked for President Trump and andvised him since
twenty eleven. He didn't run that year in twenty twelve,
but he ran in twenty sixteen. People didn't think we
could win, and we ended up in an electoral victory,
and then twenty twenty looked like we were going to win.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everything's going great.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
The tax cuts are working, the economies, homon millions of jobs,
COVID hits, and by forty four thousand votes in three states,
we lose the presidency. So this time around President Trump
was on him mission. He saw Joe Biden dismailing all
the policies he put in place. In fact, after President
(01:16):
Trump left office, I had a meeting with him with
Jason Miller and Brian Jack was there. It was February
tenth of twenty twenty one, and he's watching He's in
his office in.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The ballroom above the ballroom in.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Marilago, and he's watching the Senate trial of his engcement.
And we had just done a poll of the seventeen
battleground states. And I said to him, do you realize
sixty three percent of the Republicans want you to run again?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And he looks up from there He's.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Like really, I said yes, And you realize that when
Joe Biden's policies fail, which they will, just like people
in sit I'm an old man. So back in seventy
six Pagan didn't win the nomination. When he didn't win
the nomination, four years later, after four years of failure,
(02:08):
Jimmy Carter Reagan won a landslide. And I said to
President Trump, when Biden's policies failed, they'll be buyer's remorse
and you will win the next election. Well, it must
not have been just my services, but the Democrat surveys
because at that point in time, they tried to confiscate
(02:28):
his wealth, they tried to put him in jail, take
away his civil rights, is right to free speech, and
didn't give him enough Secret Service protection that he survived
to assassination attempts. They tried everything to stop him, and
he never was complacent. He was determined. He was on
a mission. As they opened the borders, let I legal
(02:49):
immigrants in. As they rolled back his tax cup policies,
put mandates on the economy just destroyed American workers hard,
and the inflationary policies, he got more determined to win.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You make a great point. So what you're saying is
the Democrats saw that he was the threat. The person
the Democrats are attacking is generally the person they're most
afraid of, and they attacked him more than we've ever seen.
And he always says I'm the most attacked person in politics.
But I mean, really, it's become so nasty, and there's
I actually was writing last night because a girlfriend of
(03:25):
mine reached out to me and said, I saw that
you had your daughter at the White House, and she said,
I just wanted to say, we're praying for you because
you posted a picture and the comments were so nasty.
And this is where we are today, where you have
such cheesy access to attack someone, You have such cheesy
access to go after their family, to go after their kids.
They went after President Trump's children. But I think that
(03:48):
we saw we were watching this, and we were I mean,
we heard today people saying that this was God's intervention
to keep him safe because he didn't have the Secret Service.
You know, there is a greater plan here, but it's
not a passive plan.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We have to be active in that plan.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And your polls show us that we have to be
out there connecting with communities and talking about the right message.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And I think it's.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Interesting that you say that, but you talk about Reagan
because when I was running for you there the first time,
I had a guy say to me, when when you
run the next time, you have a better chance of winning.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You won't win this time. And I remember leaving that
meeting and thinking, you that this meeting was terrible. That's terrible,
But he said, you're going to learn so much.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And I do think that even Trump having the first term,
look at what he's been able to think through in
the four years that he was out of office.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's almost a blessing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean it is a blessing that now he's
gone in with so much more knowledge and a different team.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yes, and he is actually better and more determined because
we ran a campaign that said he would be a
better president, and he is being a better president and
more knowledge experience. He's bringing more loyal people around him.
He's he's a businessman. He's not a politician, but he
is a historic figure in American history. And when you
(05:10):
think about it, when you talk about certain things on
the internet. They tried, they won last time because they
censor him. Yeah, on the Hunter Buyden laptop story, thirty
six percent of the Biden voters were not aware of
it because they sense it crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
They think that they.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sensed the New York Post, they sensed they took them
off X, they took them off Facebook.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
They see, this is.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The danger right now, I think, because like I said,
the media on the Republican side is very cheerful. You know,
we talk about the Democrats and like, oh, how stupid
that they have all of these people. They don't know
what their message is. They can't get it together. AOC
is the leader, Cory Booker doing the right thing, all
of these Kamala Harris is giving another speech for twenty
(05:54):
five dollars pop.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, it all.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Seems very ridiculous right now, But that's where you get complacent.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You don't go out and reach out to these groups
that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And they were just having a panel on the Hispanic community,
and I thought some of the messages that we were
hearing from people in the audience was like, Hey, we
feel kind of like you're not hearing the little guy,
You're not hearing the business owner. And I think that's
something that is more challenging on the national stage. But
you were talking about, I think we have thirty six
governor races coming up this year, thirty six states that
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are going to have to reach out.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
To those communities.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And those races are key because those races will help
to dictate what happens in the House and Senate. Because
you've got the top of the ticket has to be
talking about the right stuff. So what do you say
to those people who are looking to run for those
top seat in the state, how they can help along
those House and Senate seats so that Trump can continue
his last two years in office doing great things.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
By the way, my colleague Tony for Brizzio and we
pulled for President Trump.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We both pulled for a work for.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Finkelstein, who was their mentor, and he was one of
the polsters for Ronald Reagan. And I used to bring
Cannes to and say before I even worked for him,
bring a Canye. Tonas says, So and someone wants to
run for office, and the candidate would say, I've never
lost an election.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I've been city.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Councilmen, I'm a mayor, never lost election. And Finklestein, who
say that's terrible, And the candy would look say why
I've never lost the election.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
He says, you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
On the strongest candidates in American history, Richard Nixon lost,
came back and won. Raul Reagan lost, came back and won.
Donald Trump, well, he maybe we didn't lose, but we
were out of office for four years. Came back and won,
and he the most historic election. He may be the
most consequential president in the history of the United States.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And that's kind of unique. But he learned from losing.
You've run, you will be a better candidate.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And when you talk about governors, governors are the ones
who affect education, the ones who affect the economic policies.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That attract jobs.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So if the people running for governors, I mean basically
during COVID we saw a president Trump, governors had a
lot of powers. Certain states were open, certain states were closed.
It's not just the president and a lot of the
because we're a federal system.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
What goes on locally in states?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Certain states you can see people leaving California, people leaving
New York, Michigan, right, And there's a reason for that
because the failed policies.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, a lot of these states.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
If you want to succeed, lower taxes, give people more
school choice, give people the ability to improve the schools,
give people, you know, the ability to have more services
and more freedom. And on that freedom index, if they
have more freedom, all of a sudden people.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Come back to the states.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And a state like Michigan, I mean, Michigan has so
many things to offer.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But we have so much over regulation and the licensing
and the nickel and diming. I mean, you you register
your car in Michigan, it's it's five times where you
are going to spend in Florida, and that's hard because
those little expenses.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Add up and families go it's too expensive delivery.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They just raised the hunting licenses, I mean everything, everything
that they can to raise, because think about it, we
had a budget that was fifty billion dollars when Gretchen
Wentver took office. It's now almost well, I think it
just went over ninety million. In six years. We went
up that much forty billion. I mean, you could essentially
(09:35):
double the budget in six years. So you have to
keep Nickel and you double the budget.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
With fewer people.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So I was just listening to Senator Joni Earnston there
and she's talking about freeing up the economy and that
means that you are by freeing up regulation, you are
building the economy. And you were saying to build the
economy to give people money back, you have to build
the economy. We talked about Michigan being the hub of automotive,
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or at least that's what people believe it had been,
and that is what the entire state still yes, that
is the pride, that's our legacy, and almost I would
say ninety percent of our businesses are supportive of back.
We have a big agriculture industry, but the other businesses,
even the ones that are supporting ag are sometimes supporting
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parts for both industries.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You know, we are highly.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Automotive, and yet automotive is leaving us because we are
a challenging. The barriers to entry for business in Michigan
are so great, and I think that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So hard to just open a business.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's so hard to move to the next steps, getting
the road built, getting the permits.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Everything's challenging.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, by the way, that's that's why elections have consequences.
At one point, when President Trump in twenty sixteen, when
he was running during the primaries, we're in his office
and lost Wisconsin, and I was going back to work
for to help them, and he says to me, and
I said, don't worry, you're gonna win New York, you'll
win Indiana. Well, we'll seal the nomination. But he says
(11:13):
to me, do you think I need a tax cutness?
And of course you need the tax cut. You're running
in a Republican primary. And he says, oh, where do
I go? I said, well, talk to Larry Cudlow and
Steve Forbes. They wrote it for Christy to Whitman a governor.
They wrote it for George for Takia governor, Mayor Giuliani,
and they helped Reagan. So the tax cuts that he's
trying to work to make commany will fix the economy.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
They will grow the economy. That's how we got out
of inflation.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I want to understand, the more money you give to
the people, the autonomy is going to.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Be and that's why it's popular.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
In December, we pulled sixty seven percent of all voters
favor no tax on over time, seventy one percent of
all Americans favor no tax on tips.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Those are pro growth measures.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
People will work people and they'll grow the economy.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
People.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Half the voters don't even know that Trump tax cuts
are going to lapse this year. You get a Paul
in February Chamber of Commerce. Forty nine percent of hole
voters don't know the tax cuts elapse, don't know they're
going to have. If the Trump tax cuts lapse, we
will have the largest tax cut.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Tax increase in history.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So we've got to stop the Democrats from trying to
raise taxes. They're all on records supporting that. We have
to get his tax cuts made permanent past. The tax
uts grow the economy, and governors can do the same
things in their states, and that brings back jobs, bring
back industry.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Then you can improve the schools.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You'll have the resources improve the schools, and there's so
many things you can do.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And in Michigan we just expanded the number of weeks
that someone can be on state assistance, so that is
going to prevent And then I thought that was interesting.
When we were in there, we were hearing from a
small business owner who said, look, right now, you're forgetting
about the janitors, You're forgetting about the cleaning.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
People, You're forgetting about all the little guys.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And she said, right now, for me, it's nobody wants
to work more than eight hours because if they have
to work more than eight hours, they can make more
from the state. And that's where when you remove the
tips from overtime, if you have a company where overtime
is critical. We had a foundry, so a lot of
times ten hours was a normal day. If somebody was
willing to work it, you know, and they can make
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a lot more money. You've got You've got people that
can make two hundred thousand dollars a year at a factory.
And I think that's what's lost on people. They got
all the blue collar workers. Hey, these guys are living
a lot better than you and me, you know, because
hard work gets money. You know, you get advancement when
you work hard, And that's always been the.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Story in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That was one of the things when I talked to
the Asian community in Michigan when I was running, they
were like, we come from a culture of hard work, right,
this state has changed. The idea of hard work has
kind of gone by the wayside. People are being told
you shouldn't have to work hard and the government should
support you. Well, we also wanted the American dream, and
if people aren't working hard, we can't get people to
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help us build up companies.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I think this is also the complaint.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
People say, oh, this person has this big company, they're
taking home a million dollars a year. Well, you have
to remember it, they're creating three hundred jobs. Every person
who is creating jobs is bringing the state up and
bringing your taxes down.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And when you're talking about you were just told about
workers getting benefits for not working.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, then you're not a worker, so definition yes, work.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So the Democrats are saying Republicans are going to cut Medicaid,
which goes to needy families and people that can't afford it.
But there's able bodied adults. You aren't required to work
because the Democrats waive the workfare requirement, so you can
get free healthcare that the other taxpayers are paying for
for you to get free health care, and you don't
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have to work. At least, we're saying the Republicans, we
can save a lot of money once we require them
to go look for work or find work. Then if
you need healthcare, then you can get Medicaid. And that's
a very reasonable reform. And the other thing too is
they say, you know, you have legal immigrants in the country,
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millions of them they're eligible for Medicaid, and a lot
of states wine.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
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We've got more after this. Joani ERNs was also talking
about if you start to break down the cost of regulation. Said,
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she's talking on the federal level, you know, and that
is shocking to me. She's like you, we've got regulations
that are costing trillions of dollars that were just created
under Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think that's what you're talking about when you say that.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
People were looking at the comparison when you went to
Donald Trump and said, as soon as they see what
Joe Biden is going to do, you are going to
rise up because people will say I.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Want that back.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That's on a state level very critical too, because those
over regulations cost the taxpayers money and you don't realize
that that is a hard conversation to have with people.
I think that you have to have more simple conversations
when you are campaigning, and that's where I think Republicans
get in the weeds because we are like, we can
solve this, we can solve this, and we speak over
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voters heads or too technical for voters to want to
engage in.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
When you look at poles, how do where are we
missing the vote?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Looking into twenty six, when I know you're watching us constantly,
you see candidates talking, right, you see and you probably go, oh,
why are they talking about that, what do we need
to be talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Who do we need to be reached by the way.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Those those two measures on medicaid reforms, two thirds.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Of the voters.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I have a national poll coming out over the weekend
beyond mcglockl on online dot com, two thirds of the
voters support those reforms. Oh really, no medicaid for legal immigrants.
And also work fair. If you're going to get medicaid,
you have to work for your benefits. Because we're all
doing it right, and that's that's just typical.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
But it's right now.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
As far as what we need to do, we shouldn't
be complacent about the last election. What Donald Trump did
was historic and unique to Donald Trump. Wether cana is
running for Congress, Senate, governor, playing like you start all
over again, and you're going to have to draw contrasts
and play offense with the Democrats. Aryal saying, our tax
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cuts are tax cuts from billionaires.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
True, it's like if you raise taxes, and every Democrat
in the House, in the Senate has voted to raise taxes,
they voted against this plan. Trump's planned to make the
tax cutsquirement, the big beautiful bill. He's that Democrat favors
a four point five trillion dollar tax increase that will
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raise taxes on the average American two to three thousand dollars.
We need to go play offense and make that part
of our opponent's agenda and show who.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
They really are, because let's not forget when Nancy Pelissi
sat in front of her and really impressive refrigerator with
all of her twelve dollars ice cream, and she said,
this is just crumbs.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Two thousand dollars is a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Two thousand dollars is a lot to my neighbors, Like,
we don't live in those communities that have a huge
refrigerator with whatever, you know, people that serve me ice
cream in my own home. That's not my story, It's
not most American stories. If you can show that they
live in an alternate universe, they are now the billionaire class.
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They are now the ones that are taking care of
their billionaire friends, and then I could it's funny when
I hear Bernie Sanders talking about the oligarchies, because I'm like,
this is your party that really started this, that brought
in the billionaires that bought politicians, and there aren't purchased
politicians on their side of the aisle, and that to
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me is incredibly.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Dangerous because they're not this is not genuine.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's why Kamala Harris kind of resonate it wasn't her speaking.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
She was a purchased politician.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
By the way, if she spoke, we would have won
by bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
But when you look at I mean, when you just
look at what the Democrats are trying to do, and
when you took her to Nancy Pelosi, eoc Alexandro A
Passio Cortes, she's only the twenty nine favorable with the
American public forty one unvierable.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
They know her.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You know, she's a socialist and a very radical Democrat.
Their idea about taxing billionaires. We're going to find out
we're all rich someday because their idea of raising tax
That's a good point when you think about text on millionaires.
Because we do small business owners service for Job Creators Networks.
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Seven out of ten of small business owners pay taxes
through sub chapter s their personal income taxes, which means
that business is a ten to fifteen employees. That employer
is paying his employees out of his personal income taxes.
You raise their taxes, they've got to cut employees. They
won't expand they will reduce wages, they reduce hours. They'll
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react because the government has taken more from them that
they'll have less to give to their workers or profits
that they can help grow the economy.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We so many regulations like that. We've got the government
now going into our small businesses and telling them this
is how much paid time off you have to have.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and that was the fun in Michigan. Yes, Yeah,
they just loves.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That the one Fair Wage Act and they have paid
time off and they no tipped wage for restaurant workers.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
It's no tip way.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah. This they now have to make minimumis I get
restaurant on the.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Unintended consequences, And when you read it, you can get
like you're like, okay, I get why they think that
this is good, but it's actually terrible. If you go
two steps ahead and you look back, you go, okay,
that's going to be a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah. I mean even in business.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I've talked to business owners who are like, we had
a three week paid time off. Now the government forces
us to have these seventy hours and they have to
accrue them, and the gut.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You have to record it with the government.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean, it's insane to think that the government can
dictate what your paid time off is going to be.
Those are the types of things that it's not. You
know we were talking earlier. It's not just that Trump
has to rule these things back. The legislatures the Congress,
that the lawmakers state and federally have to make changes
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to protect because once he's out of office, this can.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All revert back. And that's why we have have to
win the House. In the Senate.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
The key thing this year is Republicans. Starting this year
and the odd year for the midterms, we have to
play offense. We have to go after the Democrats for
those kinds of measures who specifically.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Said, because Nan, you're going to hurt.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Small businesses, you're going to reduce the number of jobs,
You're going to reduce the wages that the employees get paid.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Sure they'll be guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know, these these steps towards socialism that they're passing.
But look, in Europe is stagnant, they don't grow their economies. Look,
and they're socialist countries there, and they're moving right now
because they got open borders, they got high inflation today.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is doing what the Democrats did here.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're saying that the right, the group of right like
right of center whatever politicians over in Germany are now
an extremist group.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, right, they did, that's AFT. That's now the leading
party and their polls. The Christian Democrats weren't aligned with
the Socialists to keep the anti immigration party and the
anti government control party out of office. So it's just
But see, that's why our ancestors left those countries. It
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came to America because you have freedom here.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So what does it mean to have AOC at twenty
nine percent?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Though?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
What does that mean for their party?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Well, Harris is still head of thirty percent in their
primary's got eight, but she's got eight. So I'm rooting
for her because if we want to see the next
Republican president, she'd be a heck of a nominee for the.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Gosh has amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
So but the key thing here is we got to
look at the midterms. In two thousand and two, we
did work for Jim Gilmore was the RNC chairman for
President George W. Bush, and President Bush passed the tax
cut that went into effect in the second year of
the midterms, in the second quarter of the midterms in
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two thousand and two to nine to eleven. He put
money into the economy so we didn't go into a recession.
So in Virginia in the add year election, we had
fifty two out of one hundred Republican seats in the legislature,
we got sixty four. Personally, they took the techniques we
had in Virginia to turn out Bush voters in the
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odd year. We did that across the country in the
midi of seventy two hour program. In the mid term,
with the growing economy, no recession, we picked up two
Senate seats, we picked up eight House seats. To defy
the midterm jinx. We need President Trump's one big, beautiful bill,
a growing economy, We need to keep reducing regulations. We
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need to play offense and all these races for Congress, Senate, governors,
state legislatures, and basically bring the fight back to the Democrats.
Act like we didn't win the election, Act like we're
under nuts exactly, and advance our agenda and if we
have the growing economy, which I think we will, because
President Trump has been he's been focused on this. He
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said it at his rally in Michigan in McComb County. Yeah,
he said that was he said, he what he's going
to do. And like you said, he's a businessman. When
he tells you he's going to do something, it's hard
to get his words at at time. Somebody he doesn't
make convinced on that nods or shrugs. But once he
gives you his word and he says he's going to
do it, he is going to do it. So in
Macomb County he said, we are going to we're going
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to pass this one big, beautiful bill and it's and uh,
that's what we need to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And he told people stay in DC until you vote,
make sure you vote. So yeah, he's definitely focused on that.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I mean,
we're seeing the jobs report today. The jobs report came out.
Then the jobs report looks good. That I think is
to the Democrat's chagrin. You know, they're like, what the heck,
how did he do this? Because they don't they really
don't understand his policies. Yeah, and there are too many people,
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I believe there are too many people that have been
elected on their side that are activists and not business people.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
They've never signed a check.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
They don't know what it means to stay.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Up at night wondering how you will pay your employees.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And Donald Trump has and they go, oh my gosh,
he's failed, He's gone bankrupt. That's the best possible scenario
because when you have failed, like you said, even as
a candidate, if you've never failed, you've never learned.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
And when you think about I mean in terms of
this election, a lot of times in states where the
unions are left wing, and we'll ask questions about it,
and most of them are government employee.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Is it not private secuity?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Because like the President said, we won the auto workers,
we won the construction and trades people. But when we
see a union influence, we'll ask about, are you, as
anyone in the household, work for a small business or
own a small business. Most people don't own their own business,
but they work for those business Yeah, and they understand.
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And that network is bigger than the union network. And
when if you make the case that we need the
biggest I mean this organization job career network, it's because
small businesses create jobs in America. Yes, not necessarily the
big corporations because they can leave a drop of a
hat or go to China or whatever, and they've been
doing it. But the small businesses stay, build, grow, That's
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how you create jobs. And what we need to do
is say, we need to grow these small businesses.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
What are we going to do to help them grow?
And you've got the small business owners here listening. You've
been through it, family's been through it. And if we
can grow the small business we grow the jobs, then
people don't have to rely on the government telling them,
oh that this is what you can do and this
is what you can't do, because most of it is
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what you can't do.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's why I find fascinating about the Democrats. And I
know I've kept you longer than I should, but that's
what I find fascinating is that in Michigan, Gretchen Witmer
has spent a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
We have this sore fund.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
She's been trying to buy large businesses and she's been
going for you know, instead of going for the low
hanging fruit, she's going for this.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Big golden egg.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Right, I'm going to bring this big corporation in and
putting all of her eggs in one basket, and that's
been a disaster. We were supposed to all of this,
This billion dollars was supposed to bring in sixty thousand
dollar jobs. Sixty thousand right now on record it's thirteen
a maybe maybe thirteen thousand. So we've spent a billion dollars.
But you're exactly right, if you were to the investment
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can be different than what people think. It can be
opening up roads. It can be helping this company to
buy land. It can be extending their property. There are
so many things that you can go to the low
hanging fruit to build a couple hundred jobs here and there.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And that's what I keep telling our legislature.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm like, you have so many people that have come
to the state mast and let me tell you, I was.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
We were one of them, so I know that the
rejections are out there.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Go through.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's your low hanging fruit. Those are your jobs you
can grow right now, right now exactly. That's where you
can immediately start lifting.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And as you grow those jobs you can the more
people you have, the lowerer taxes can be. You know,
what is the answer to lowering taxes? Put more, have
more people putting taxes in. Yes, go back to the
lower rates.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I mean, supply stide economics works, and it works in
the polls that in effect, voters were all suppli Sidders.
Now at that Chamber of Commerce pole that I told
you sixty four to twenty percent, they support making Trump's
tax cuts permanent.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
People want those taxes department. They want to have the
money in their pockets.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
They want to be able to decide after four years
of high inflation under Biden and Harris and the Democrats,
we can't afford a tax in the race. Yes, And
this is what they're trying to you know, the Democrat
Party is trying to convince us like, oh, we're just
going to raise it on billionaires, now, don't raise it.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
On everybody, right, exactly exactly, And that's what we've seen.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
In Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
We had an income tax reduction that was baked and
if we hit a certain number of surplus, we got
this income tax reduction. We got it for one year,
and then they said they had the Liberal Supreme Court say, oh,
actually we don't think that has to be permanent. It
doesn't have to be permanent, So raise the text. So
raises the taxes right back up. The people of Michigan
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deserve that money back. That's what they should get and
that shouldn't and we should grow that. So I could
talk to you, I really could talk to you for hours.
But thank you so much, John mclaughurin. You appreciate you
being here absolutely, and thank you all for listening to
us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's exciting to be
here in person with the Job Creators Network. We are
learning so much that we're going to bring to you.
But as always, for this podcast and others, go to
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Speaker 1 (31:48):
Have a blessing.
Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We get to be at the Job Creator's Network summit
today and I'm so glad that we have with us
today a pollster, John McLaughlin is here with us. I
was just listening to what you said in the room,
so many valuable points. I find this to be one
of the most interesting conversations for Republicans right now because
we're sitting kind of on this pedestal. We feel really
(00:23):
confident about going into twenty six and that can cause
us to become a little lazy, right and.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You get complacent.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You think that because we because President Trump did so
well when you think of everything they threw at him. Sir,
I've always worked for President Trump and andvised him since
twenty eleven. He didn't run that year in twenty twelve,
but he ran in twenty sixteen. People didn't think we
could win, and we ended up in an electoral victory,
and then twenty twenty looked like we were going to win.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Everything's going great.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
The tax cuts are working, the economies, homon millions of jobs,
COVID hits, and by forty four thousand votes in three states,
we lose the presidency. So this time around President Trump
was on him mission. He saw Joe Biden dismailing all
the policies he put in place. In fact, after President
(01:16):
Trump left office, I had a meeting with him with
Jason Miller and Brian Jack was there. It was February
tenth of twenty twenty one, and he's watching He's in
his office in.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
The ballroom above the ballroom in.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Marilago, and he's watching the Senate trial of his engcement.
And we had just done a poll of the seventeen
battleground states. And I said to him, do you realize
sixty three percent of the Republicans want you to run again?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And he looks up from there He's.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Like really, I said yes, And you realize that when
Joe Biden's policies fail, which they will, just like people
in sit I'm an old man. So back in seventy
six Pagan didn't win the nomination. When he didn't win
the nomination, four years later, after four years of failure,
(02:08):
Jimmy Carter Reagan won a landslide. And I said to
President Trump, when Biden's policies failed, they'll be buyer's remorse
and you will win the next election. Well, it must
not have been just my services, but the Democrat surveys
because at that point in time, they tried to confiscate
(02:28):
his wealth, they tried to put him in jail, take
away his civil rights, is right to free speech, and
didn't give him enough Secret Service protection that he survived
to assassination attempts. They tried everything to stop him, and
he never was complacent. He was determined. He was on
a mission. As they opened the borders, let I legal
(02:49):
immigrants in. As they rolled back his tax cup policies,
put mandates on the economy just destroyed American workers hard,
and the inflationary policies, he got more determined to win.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You make a great point. So what you're saying is
the Democrats saw that he was the threat. The person
the Democrats are attacking is generally the person they're most
afraid of, and they attacked him more than we've ever seen.
And he always says I'm the most attacked person in politics.
But I mean, really, it's become so nasty, and there's
I actually was writing last night because a girlfriend of
(03:25):
mine reached out to me and said, I saw that
you had your daughter at the White House, and she said,
I just wanted to say, we're praying for you because
you posted a picture and the comments were so nasty.
And this is where we are today, where you have
such cheesy access to attack someone, You have such cheesy
access to go after their family, to go after their kids.
They went after President Trump's children. But I think that
(03:48):
we saw we were watching this, and we were I mean,
we heard today people saying that this was God's intervention
to keep him safe because he didn't have the Secret Service.
You know, there is a greater plan here, but it's
not a passive plan.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We have to be active in that plan.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And your polls show us that we have to be
out there connecting with communities and talking about the right message.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And I think it's.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Interesting that you say that, but you talk about Reagan
because when I was running for you there the first time,
I had a guy say to me, when when you
run the next time, you have a better chance of winning.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You won't win this time. And I remember leaving that
meeting and thinking, you that this meeting was terrible. That's terrible,
But he said, you're going to learn so much.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And I do think that even Trump having the first term,
look at what he's been able to think through in
the four years that he was out of office.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's almost a blessing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean it is a blessing that now he's
gone in with so much more knowledge and a different team.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yes, and he is actually better and more determined because
we ran a campaign that said he would be a
better president, and he is being a better president and
more knowledge experience. He's bringing more loyal people around him.
He's he's a businessman. He's not a politician, but he
is a historic figure in American history. And when you
(05:10):
think about it, when you talk about certain things on
the internet. They tried, they won last time because they
censor him. Yeah, on the Hunter Buyden laptop story, thirty
six percent of the Biden voters were not aware of
it because they sense it crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
They think that they.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Sensed the New York Post, they sensed they took them
off X, they took them off Facebook.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
They see, this is.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
The danger right now, I think, because like I said,
the media on the Republican side is very cheerful. You know,
we talk about the Democrats and like, oh, how stupid
that they have all of these people. They don't know
what their message is. They can't get it together. AOC
is the leader, Cory Booker doing the right thing, all
of these Kamala Harris is giving another speech for twenty
(05:54):
five dollars pop.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, it all.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Seems very ridiculous right now, But that's where you get complacent.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You don't go out and reach out to these groups
that you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And they were just having a panel on the Hispanic community,
and I thought some of the messages that we were
hearing from people in the audience was like, Hey, we
feel kind of like you're not hearing the little guy,
You're not hearing the business owner. And I think that's
something that is more challenging on the national stage. But
you were talking about, I think we have thirty six
governor races coming up this year, thirty six states that
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are going to have to reach out.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
To those communities.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And those races are key because those races will help
to dictate what happens in the House and Senate. Because
you've got the top of the ticket has to be
talking about the right stuff. So what do you say
to those people who are looking to run for those
top seat in the state, how they can help along
those House and Senate seats so that Trump can continue
his last two years in office doing great things.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
By the way, my colleague Tony for Brizzio and we
pulled for President Trump.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We both pulled for a work for.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Finkelstein, who was their mentor, and he was one of
the polsters for Ronald Reagan. And I used to bring
Cannes to and say before I even worked for him,
bring a Canye. Tonas says, So and someone wants to
run for office, and the candidate would say, I've never
lost an election.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I've been city.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Councilmen, I'm a mayor, never lost election. And Finklestein, who
say that's terrible, And the candy would look say why
I've never lost the election.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
He says, you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
On the strongest candidates in American history, Richard Nixon lost,
came back and won. Raul Reagan lost, came back and won.
Donald Trump, well, he maybe we didn't lose, but we
were out of office for four years. Came back and won,
and he the most historic election. He may be the
most consequential president in the history of the United States.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
And that's kind of unique. But he learned from losing.
You've run, you will be a better candidate.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And when you talk about governors, governors are the ones
who affect education, the ones who affect the economic policies.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
That attract jobs.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
So if the people running for governors, I mean basically
during COVID we saw a president Trump, governors had a
lot of powers. Certain states were open, certain states were closed.
It's not just the president and a lot of the
because we're a federal system.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
What goes on locally in states?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Certain states you can see people leaving California, people leaving
New York, Michigan, right, And there's a reason for that
because the failed policies.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, a lot of these states.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
If you want to succeed, lower taxes, give people more
school choice, give people the ability to improve the schools,
give people, you know, the ability to have more services
and more freedom. And on that freedom index, if they
have more freedom, all of a sudden people.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Come back to the states.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And a state like Michigan, I mean, Michigan has so
many things to offer.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But we have so much over regulation and the licensing
and the nickel and diming. I mean, you you register
your car in Michigan, it's it's five times where you
are going to spend in Florida, and that's hard because
those little expenses.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Add up and families go it's too expensive delivery.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They just raised the hunting licenses, I mean everything, everything
that they can to raise, because think about it, we
had a budget that was fifty billion dollars when Gretchen
Wentver took office. It's now almost well, I think it
just went over ninety million. In six years. We went
up that much forty billion. I mean, you could essentially
(09:35):
double the budget in six years. So you have to
keep Nickel and you double the budget.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
With fewer people.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So I was just listening to Senator Joni Earnston there
and she's talking about freeing up the economy and that
means that you are by freeing up regulation, you are
building the economy. And you were saying to build the
economy to give people money back, you have to build
the economy. We talked about Michigan being the hub of automotive,
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or at least that's what people believe it had been,
and that is what the entire state still yes, that
is the pride, that's our legacy, and almost I would
say ninety percent of our businesses are supportive of back.
We have a big agriculture industry, but the other businesses,
even the ones that are supporting ag are sometimes supporting
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parts for both industries.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You know, we are highly.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Automotive, and yet automotive is leaving us because we are
a challenging. The barriers to entry for business in Michigan
are so great, and I think that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So hard to just open a business.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's so hard to move to the next steps, getting
the road built, getting the permits.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Everything's challenging.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, by the way, that's that's why elections have consequences.
At one point, when President Trump in twenty sixteen, when
he was running during the primaries, we're in his office
and lost Wisconsin, and I was going back to work
for to help them, and he says to me, and
I said, don't worry, you're gonna win New York, you'll
win Indiana. Well, we'll seal the nomination. But he says
(11:13):
to me, do you think I need a tax cutness?
And of course you need the tax cut. You're running
in a Republican primary. And he says, oh, where do
I go? I said, well, talk to Larry Cudlow and
Steve Forbes. They wrote it for Christy to Whitman a governor.
They wrote it for George for Takia governor, Mayor Giuliani,
and they helped Reagan. So the tax cuts that he's
trying to work to make commany will fix the economy.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
They will grow the economy. That's how we got out
of inflation.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I want to understand, the more money you give to
the people, the autonomy is going to.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Be and that's why it's popular.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
In December, we pulled sixty seven percent of all voters
favor no tax on over time, seventy one percent of
all Americans favor no tax on tips.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Those are pro growth measures.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
People will work people and they'll grow the economy.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
People.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Half the voters don't even know that Trump tax cuts
are going to lapse this year. You get a Paul
in February Chamber of Commerce. Forty nine percent of hole
voters don't know the tax cuts elapse, don't know they're
going to have. If the Trump tax cuts lapse, we
will have the largest tax cut.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Tax increase in history.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
So we've got to stop the Democrats from trying to
raise taxes. They're all on records supporting that. We have
to get his tax cuts made permanent past. The tax
uts grow the economy, and governors can do the same
things in their states, and that brings back jobs, bring
back industry.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Then you can improve the schools.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You'll have the resources improve the schools, and there's so
many things you can do.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And in Michigan we just expanded the number of weeks
that someone can be on state assistance, so that is
going to prevent And then I thought that was interesting.
When we were in there, we were hearing from a
small business owner who said, look, right now, you're forgetting
about the janitors, You're forgetting about the cleaning.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
People, You're forgetting about all the little guys.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And she said, right now, for me, it's nobody wants
to work more than eight hours because if they have
to work more than eight hours, they can make more
from the state. And that's where when you remove the
tips from overtime, if you have a company where overtime
is critical. We had a foundry, so a lot of
times ten hours was a normal day. If somebody was
willing to work it, you know, and they can make
(13:23):
a lot more money. You've got You've got people that
can make two hundred thousand dollars a year at a factory.
And I think that's what's lost on people. They got
all the blue collar workers. Hey, these guys are living
a lot better than you and me, you know, because
hard work gets money. You know, you get advancement when
you work hard, And that's always been the.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Story in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That was one of the things when I talked to
the Asian community in Michigan when I was running, they
were like, we come from a culture of hard work, right,
this state has changed. The idea of hard work has
kind of gone by the wayside. People are being told
you shouldn't have to work hard and the government should
support you. Well, we also wanted the American dream, and
if people aren't working hard, we can't get people to
(14:04):
help us build up companies.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I think this is also the complaint.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
People say, oh, this person has this big company, they're
taking home a million dollars a year. Well, you have
to remember it, they're creating three hundred jobs. Every person
who is creating jobs is bringing the state up and
bringing your taxes down.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And when you're talking about you were just told about
workers getting benefits for not working.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes, then you're not a worker, so definition yes, work.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So the Democrats are saying Republicans are going to cut Medicaid,
which goes to needy families and people that can't afford it.
But there's able bodied adults. You aren't required to work
because the Democrats waive the workfare requirement, so you can
get free healthcare that the other taxpayers are paying for
for you to get free health care, and you don't
(14:54):
have to work. At least, we're saying the Republicans, we
can save a lot of money once we require them
to go look for work or find work. Then if
you need healthcare, then you can get Medicaid. And that's
a very reasonable reform. And the other thing too is
they say, you know, you have legal immigrants in the country,
(15:15):
millions of them they're eligible for Medicaid, and a lot
of states wine.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
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Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think that's what you're talking about when you say that.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
People were looking at the comparison when you went to
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Joe Biden is going to do, you are going to
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Want that back.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That's on a state level very critical too, because those
over regulations cost the taxpayers money and you don't realize
that that is a hard conversation to have with people.
I think that you have to have more simple conversations
when you are campaigning, and that's where I think Republicans
get in the weeds because we are like, we can
solve this, we can solve this, and we speak over
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voters heads or too technical for voters to want to
engage in.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
When you look at poles, how do where are we
missing the vote?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Looking into twenty six, when I know you're watching us constantly,
you see candidates talking, right, you see and you probably go, oh,
why are they talking about that, what do we need
to be talking about?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Who do we need to be reached by the way.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Those those two measures on medicaid reforms, two thirds.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Of the voters.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I have a national poll coming out over the weekend
beyond mcglockl on online dot com, two thirds of the
voters support those reforms. Oh really, no medicaid for legal immigrants.
And also work fair. If you're going to get medicaid,
you have to work for your benefits. Because we're all
doing it right, and that's that's just typical.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
But it's right now.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
As far as what we need to do, we shouldn't
be complacent about the last election. What Donald Trump did
was historic and unique to Donald Trump. Wether cana is
running for Congress, Senate, governor, playing like you start all
over again, and you're going to have to draw contrasts
and play offense with the Democrats. Aryal saying, our tax
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cuts are tax cuts from billionaires.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
True, it's like if you raise taxes, and every Democrat
in the House, in the Senate has voted to raise taxes,
they voted against this plan. Trump's planned to make the
tax cutsquirement, the big beautiful bill. He's that Democrat favors
a four point five trillion dollar tax increase that will
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raise taxes on the average American two to three thousand dollars.
We need to go play offense and make that part
of our opponent's agenda and show who.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
They really are, because let's not forget when Nancy Pelissi
sat in front of her and really impressive refrigerator with
all of her twelve dollars ice cream, and she said,
this is just crumbs.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Two thousand dollars is a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Two thousand dollars is a lot to my neighbors, Like,
we don't live in those communities that have a huge
refrigerator with whatever, you know, people that serve me ice
cream in my own home. That's not my story, It's
not most American stories. If you can show that they
live in an alternate universe, they are now the billionaire class.
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They are now the ones that are taking care of
their billionaire friends, and then I could it's funny when
I hear Bernie Sanders talking about the oligarchies, because I'm like,
this is your party that really started this, that brought
in the billionaires that bought politicians, and there aren't purchased
politicians on their side of the aisle, and that to
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me is incredibly.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Dangerous because they're not this is not genuine.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's why Kamala Harris kind of resonate it wasn't her speaking.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
She was a purchased politician.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
By the way, if she spoke, we would have won
by bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
But when you look at I mean, when you just
look at what the Democrats are trying to do, and
when you took her to Nancy Pelosi, eoc Alexandro A
Passio Cortes, she's only the twenty nine favorable with the
American public forty one unvierable.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
They know her.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You know, she's a socialist and a very radical Democrat.
Their idea about taxing billionaires. We're going to find out
we're all rich someday because their idea of raising tax
That's a good point when you think about text on millionaires.
Because we do small business owners service for Job Creators Networks.
(21:05):
Seven out of ten of small business owners pay taxes
through sub chapter s their personal income taxes, which means
that business is a ten to fifteen employees. That employer
is paying his employees out of his personal income taxes.
You raise their taxes, they've got to cut employees. They
won't expand they will reduce wages, they reduce hours. They'll
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react because the government has taken more from them that
they'll have less to give to their workers or profits
that they can help grow the economy.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
We so many regulations like that. We've got the government
now going into our small businesses and telling them this
is how much paid time off you have to have.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and that was the fun in Michigan. Yes, Yeah,
they just loves.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That the one Fair Wage Act and they have paid
time off and they no tipped wage for restaurant workers.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
It's no tip way.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah. This they now have to make minimumis I get
restaurant on the.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Unintended consequences, And when you read it, you can get
like you're like, okay, I get why they think that
this is good, but it's actually terrible. If you go
two steps ahead and you look back, you go, okay,
that's going to be a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah. I mean even in business.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I've talked to business owners who are like, we had
a three week paid time off. Now the government forces
us to have these seventy hours and they have to
accrue them, and the gut.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You have to record it with the government.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I mean, it's insane to think that the government can
dictate what your paid time off is going to be.
Those are the types of things that it's not. You
know we were talking earlier. It's not just that Trump
has to rule these things back. The legislatures the Congress,
that the lawmakers state and federally have to make changes
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to protect because once he's out of office, this can.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All revert back. And that's why we have have to
win the House. In the Senate.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
The key thing this year is Republicans. Starting this year
and the odd year for the midterms, we have to
play offense. We have to go after the Democrats for
those kinds of measures who specifically.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Said, because Nan, you're going to hurt.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Small businesses, you're going to reduce the number of jobs,
You're going to reduce the wages that the employees get paid.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Sure they'll be guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know, these these steps towards socialism that they're passing.
But look, in Europe is stagnant, they don't grow their economies. Look,
and they're socialist countries there, and they're moving right now
because they got open borders, they got high inflation today.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is doing what the Democrats did here.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're saying that the right, the group of right like
right of center whatever politicians over in Germany are now
an extremist group.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, right, they did, that's AFT. That's now the leading
party and their polls. The Christian Democrats weren't aligned with
the Socialists to keep the anti immigration party and the
anti government control party out of office. So it's just
But see, that's why our ancestors left those countries. It
(24:11):
came to America because you have freedom here.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
So what does it mean to have AOC at twenty
nine percent?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Though?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
What does that mean for their party?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Well, Harris is still head of thirty percent in their
primary's got eight, but she's got eight. So I'm rooting
for her because if we want to see the next
Republican president, she'd be a heck of a nominee for the.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Gosh has amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
So but the key thing here is we got to
look at the midterms. In two thousand and two, we
did work for Jim Gilmore was the RNC chairman for
President George W. Bush, and President Bush passed the tax
cut that went into effect in the second year of
the midterms, in the second quarter of the midterms in
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two thousand and two to nine to eleven. He put
money into the economy so we didn't go into a recession.
So in Virginia in the add year election, we had
fifty two out of one hundred Republican seats in the legislature,
we got sixty four. Personally, they took the techniques we
had in Virginia to turn out Bush voters in the
(25:18):
odd year. We did that across the country in the
midi of seventy two hour program. In the mid term,
with the growing economy, no recession, we picked up two
Senate seats, we picked up eight House seats. To defy
the midterm jinx. We need President Trump's one big, beautiful bill,
a growing economy, We need to keep reducing regulations. We
(25:39):
need to play offense and all these races for Congress, Senate, governors,
state legislatures, and basically bring the fight back to the Democrats.
Act like we didn't win the election, Act like we're
under nuts exactly, and advance our agenda and if we
have the growing economy, which I think we will, because
President Trump has been he's been focused on this. He
(26:02):
said it at his rally in Michigan in McComb County. Yeah,
he said that was he said, he what he's going
to do. And like you said, he's a businessman. When
he tells you he's going to do something, it's hard
to get his words at at time. Somebody he doesn't
make convinced on that nods or shrugs. But once he
gives you his word and he says he's going to
do it, he is going to do it. So in
Macomb County he said, we are going to we're going
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to pass this one big, beautiful bill and it's and uh,
that's what we need to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And he told people stay in DC until you vote,
make sure you vote. So yeah, he's definitely focused on that.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Let's take a quick commercial break.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I mean,
we're seeing the jobs report today. The jobs report came out.
Then the jobs report looks good. That I think is
to the Democrat's chagrin. You know, they're like, what the heck,
how did he do this? Because they don't they really
don't understand his policies. Yeah, and there are too many people,
(26:58):
I believe there are too many people that have been
elected on their side that are activists and not business people.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
They've never signed a check.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
They don't know what it means to stay.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Up at night wondering how you will pay your employees.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And Donald Trump has and they go, oh my gosh,
he's failed, He's gone bankrupt. That's the best possible scenario
because when you have failed, like you said, even as
a candidate, if you've never failed, you've never learned.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
And when you think about I mean in terms of
this election, a lot of times in states where the
unions are left wing, and we'll ask questions about it,
and most of them are government employee.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Is it not private secuity?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Because like the President said, we won the auto workers,
we won the construction and trades people. But when we
see a union influence, we'll ask about, are you, as
anyone in the household, work for a small business or
own a small business. Most people don't own their own business,
but they work for those business Yeah, and they understand.
(28:02):
And that network is bigger than the union network. And
when if you make the case that we need the
biggest I mean this organization job career network, it's because
small businesses create jobs in America. Yes, not necessarily the
big corporations because they can leave a drop of a
hat or go to China or whatever, and they've been
doing it. But the small businesses stay, build, grow, That's
(28:25):
how you create jobs. And what we need to do
is say, we need to grow these small businesses.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
What are we going to do?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
What are we going to do to help them grow?
And you've got the small business owners here listening. You've
been through it, family's been through it. And if we
can grow the small business we grow the jobs, then
people don't have to rely on the government telling them,
oh that this is what you can do and this
is what you can't do, because most of it is
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what you can't do.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's why I find fascinating about the Democrats. And I
know I've kept you longer than I should, but that's
what I find fascinating is that in Michigan, Gretchen Witmer
has spent a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
We have this sore fund.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
She's been trying to buy large businesses and she's been
going for you know, instead of going for the low
hanging fruit, she's going for this.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Big golden egg.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Right, I'm going to bring this big corporation in and
putting all of her eggs in one basket, and that's
been a disaster. We were supposed to all of this,
This billion dollars was supposed to bring in sixty thousand
dollar jobs. Sixty thousand right now on record it's thirteen
a maybe maybe thirteen thousand. So we've spent a billion dollars.
But you're exactly right, if you were to the investment
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can be different than what people think. It can be
opening up roads. It can be helping this company to
buy land. It can be extending their property. There are
so many things that you can go to the low
hanging fruit to build a couple hundred jobs here and there.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And that's what I keep telling our legislature.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm like, you have so many people that have come
to the state mast and let me tell you, I was.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
We were one of them, so I know that the
rejections are out there.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Go through.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's your low hanging fruit. Those are your jobs you
can grow right now, right now exactly. That's where you
can immediately start lifting.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And as you grow those jobs you can the more
people you have, the lowerer taxes can be. You know,
what is the answer to lowering taxes? Put more, have
more people putting taxes in. Yes, go back to the
lower rates.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I mean, supply stide economics works, and it works in
the polls that in effect, voters were all suppli Sidders.
Now at that Chamber of Commerce pole that I told
you sixty four to twenty percent, they support making Trump's
tax cuts permanent.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
People want those taxes department. They want to have the
money in their pockets.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
They want to be able to decide after four years
of high inflation under Biden and Harris and the Democrats,
we can't afford a tax in the race. Yes, And
this is what they're trying to you know, the Democrat
Party is trying to convince us like, oh, we're just
going to raise it on billionaires, now, don't raise it.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
On everybody, right, exactly exactly, And that's what we've seen.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
In Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
We had an income tax reduction that was baked and
if we hit a certain number of surplus, we got
this income tax reduction. We got it for one year,
and then they said they had the Liberal Supreme Court say, oh,
actually we don't think that has to be permanent. It
doesn't have to be permanent, So raise the text. So
raises the taxes right back up. The people of Michigan
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deserve that money back. That's what they should get and
that shouldn't and we should grow that. So I could
talk to you, I really could talk to you for hours.
But thank you so much, John mclaughurin. You appreciate you
being here absolutely, and thank you all for listening to
us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's exciting to be
here in person with the Job Creators Network. We are
learning so much that we're going to bring to you.
But as always, for this podcast and others, go to
(31:41):
Tutor Dixson podcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts and join us next
time on the Tutor Dixon Podcasts.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Have a blessing.
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