September 17, 2022 • 37 mins
Democrats begin to put pressure on Fetterman from hiding from Oz in Pennsylvania. Kari Lake's opponent in Arizona says she won't debate, Lake eviscerates her. Buck sees a Trump-Biden rematch in 2024. Jill Biden says she hasn't spoken to Joe, but he should keep going. Julie Kelly joins Clay and Buck with her take on the Mar-a-Lago investigation. She predicts the Biden DOJ will indict Trump before the election and seek jail time. Howard Stern thinks Trump sold nuclear secrets to the Russians.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Hour two of The Clay and Buck
(00:23):
Show gets going right now. We are weeks from the
mid terms, and man, it is interesting to see how
this is all playing out. Democrats that I've been in
touch with recently or that I've seen trying to explain
the Fetterman fiasco, are really running out of room to maneuver.
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It's not clear that he's going to debate doctor Oz.
We've been discussing that Oz is very sharp, very smart,
very polished. Fetterman shows up and when he does speak,
you think that it's like a robot with the batteries
fading in real time, which is obviously not confidence inspiring
to anybody who thinks that a United States senator should
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be somebody who you know, has full ability, health and
control of his faculties. But there's a there's a theory.
I mean, Clay, it's it's getting out of control. I mean,
it's very obvious with Fetterman. What's going on here? Yeah,
and I think this is significant. Even left leaning media
is now starting to talk about Fetterman. I'm glad that
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you brought it up, because I reminded me the Washington
Post editorial Did you see this that came out yesterday
after our show? John Fetterman needs to debate more than
once for the US Senate. This is from the Washington
Post editorial board right after our show finished yesterday. They
one of their top editors for the newspaper said people
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need to be able to see the Fetterman and this
editorial's pretty pretty crushing. The Federman and campaign squandered credibility
by concealing for the public for two days after his stroke.
They haven't been forthcoming with his medical history. It's not
good enough he's asking I'm reading from the from their editorial,
which is I think a sign of a lot of
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momentum for Oz. He's asking voters for a six year
contract without giving them enough information to make sound judgments
about whether he's up for such a demanding job. We need.
The Washington Post said, full disclosure of his health records,
and he should debate mister Oz before voters start casting
their ballots, and that this must happen. So, I mean,
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the fact that the Washington Post is calling him out
is a pretty significant detail. Well, these are lagging indicators
from regime media. Right when it becomes too obvious, when
it is no longer possible for them with a straight
face without destroying whatever shred of credibility they have that
they're effect based, reality based organization. When it's no longer defensible,
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then they start to write these editorials. We're at that
place with Fetterman. But but my thesis here, Clay is
this is a broader theme. There are a number of
candidates who are really just trying to trying to do
the Biden and the basement routine, hoping that regime media
the narratives of Trump and the insurrection, and hey, inflation
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is not really that bad, it's just really bad, and
all these things we're hearing it. You know, the tops decision,
the women are going to rush to the polls. It's
not even worth Republicans voting anymore. All these things that
are i think at some level meant to do Republican
enthusiasm suppression and to turn out the left wing base
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and avoid the fact that the candidates the Democrats are
putting forward in a number of these key races are
just not good. And we talked about Fetterman, which now
and this is beyond doubt, and that's this is a
health that you mean like, this is deep sinism that
he stay, he should suspend his campaign. This is what
they're doing is gross. It's wrong that this guy is
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going to be the Democrat nominee from that state because
they're essentially hoping that they can get away with an
emperor has no closed situation there worth enough for its
not with all the voters, but even in Arizona. Carrie Lake,
who we both think is a future star of the GOP,
she put out this ad because Katie Hobbs's basically saying
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I will not share a debate stage with Carrie Lake.
Carrie is hitting back on this one. For the first
time in the history of our state, there will be
no clean Elections gubernatorial debate, bucking state tradition. My opponent,
Katie Hobbs has made it official she will not share
a debate stage with me under any circumstance. Now, I'd
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like to speak directly to you, Katie. You think this
issue is going to go away, that Arizonas will just
throw up their hands and say, oh, well, no debate
this year. Well, you're sorely mistaken. I have ask the
Clean Elections Commission to extend the deadline for you to
confirm your attendance to the day of the debate. Should
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you grow a spine between now in October twelfth, there
will be an empty chair waiting for you on the
debate stage. This is what needs to happen. Remember how
we said Republicans need to go on offense, need to
point out what their opponents they have to force them
into the public eye. Because the game plan for Hobbs,
for Fetterman, for you go down the list of all
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of them, for all of them is oh, I'm not
like one of those crazy left wing gender transition for
twelve year old Democrats who's spending all the money and
making your grocery prices and your gas prices go way up.
I'm like a nice, moderate, normal Democrat. You know, I'm
not one of those. It's all a lie, and their
game is to have the regime media at the national
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level and then at the state level. Unfortunately, all the
major state newspapers and all these places, whether it's Pittsburgh, Atlanta,
anywhere in Arizona, obviously Arizona, I mean Atlanta, I'm thinking
about Georgia. But the biggest, the biggest newspapers in all
these states are essentially carrying water for the Democrat candidates
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between that, CNN, the New York Times. They think that
that's how they win the election. Just have these candidates
that no one really gets to ask any questions too well,
they're trying to hide. And I think it's significant not
only form from radical propositions that they have a spouse,
but how good is Carrie Lake. I mean, she is
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such a stud I said last week that you know, guys,
I know I love to gamble that I would like
to go with a parlay. I think Carry Lake is
going to end up winning comfortably in Arizona. She is
just so smooth. She's incredibly crisp, super talented at communication skills,
and devastating when she said that the way she just
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dropped in that grow a Spine line was so well done.
I think that herschel Walker is gonna win in Georgia,
and I believe that doctor Oz is gonna end up
winning in Pennsylvania. If I could hit on those as
a par lay out there right now, I believe all
three of those I don't believe, I know it. All
three of those candidates are considered gambling underdogs right now.
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If you look at the overall market place. You can
gamble on American elections legally overseas and so there's reliable
markets there. I think all three of those underdogs are
gonna win. That'd be a heck of a parlay pay. Anyway,
I think we should have legal we should we should
have legal political outcomes gambling in this country. We can sports.
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Why can't you do it on political outcomes? Because so
many of these pundits, man, these people that are, oh,
I know what's gonna happen. Yeah, let's see the record,
you know, yeah, you know, I agree. It's not to
be a tough thing. When you did four years in
a row of sports gambling on TV, you can't run
and hide from every pick you've ever made on a game.
And it's tough, right. If you can get to fifty
two point three percent in sports gambling, you're a stud.
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If you can get to fifty five percent, you end
up like Biff and back to the future. That means
you lose forty five percent of the time. But it's
hard to beat the market in anything, right, hard to
beat the SMP five hundred, it's hard to beat consensus opinion.
And I just think all three of those candidates, carry Lake,
doctor Oz and herschel Walker are being undervalued right now.
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Can you tell me what the I don't mean right
this second, but can we do a you know where
to look for this? I'm wondering because my belief right now,
my strong belief right now, is that Joe Biden is running.
That I am more confident on than most other predictions
that I make. Joe Biden is going to run for
reelection and Donald Trump is going to run against him,
and that we're gonna have a replay that is mine.
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You think I can, I can look up. I will
give you. I'll look it up during the commercial break.
I will tell you what that prediction would pay to
this exact day if you were betting in England right
now on that being, you can bet on the matchup
of an election. You can bet on Biden versus Trump.
You know part two. And that's a perfect and smooth
transition here, Clay to the fixation that they still have
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on Trump. Now, remember we talk about this in the
context of understanding that when the Libs, when the Democrats,
when the Merrick Garland doj does this stuff at some
level the process is the punishment for the people involved,
So just getting the lawyers and having to deal with
all this nonsense from the DJ about January sixth, that's
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part of it. Also, it's a distraction tactic away from
the wide open border. I mean, do you see you
know your colleague at Fox, Bill mulugion, he's got this
live video of people in all Camo with essentially rope
ladders going over and I mean it's the border's wide open.
Does an incredible job covering the border region. I mean,
he really does. It's crazy though, when you look at
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the numbers, when you start to actually so anyway, we'll
talk more about the border, but that's wide open. All
these things the economy, inflation, inflation numbers super bad. That's
where the market got crushed by eight hundred plus points today.
They want us talking about Trump. Now. That is in
some ways of distraction, but we also have to be prepared.
I think this is politically the bazuka they think they
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have in their back pocket, so to speak. I think
the Libs believe that if all else fails to divert
what we've been what I just talked about, where we're
talking about the Trump Biden matchup that's coming, they want
to muddy up the waters. They want to do something,
and that's why we have to take seriously. Still, we're
gonna have Julie Kelly joining us at the bottom of
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this hour the possibility they are lighting this up for
some kind of a criminal prosecution of Donald Trump. Justice
Department this was just a New York Times SPECI yesterday
issued forty subpoenas in a week, expanding its January sixth inquiry.
They've also seized phones of two top Trump advisors. I mean, Clay,
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this could just be distraction to you know, and we
don't know if it is or not until we see
if they prosecute or not. Right clearly, if they don't
decide to prosecute, well then this is just a distraction.
But I think when you're talking about dozens and dozens
of subpoenas and doing all this, we'll ask Julie about this.
I don't think they've made the determination to prosecute Trump yet,
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but I don't think it's off the table yet. Based
on what we're seeing right now, what do you think
I think they're going to try to find a way
to charge Trump in twenty three I'm not sure that
it's going to be over these documents, although it could be.
What I think is going on right now is inflations
at eight point three percent. They are trying desperately to
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make twenty twenty two about Donald Trump. And to me,
twenty twenty three is all going to be about Donald Trump,
because is he gonna run? Who's gonna run against him?
How to Republicans respond to the possibility that he might
get indicted by his chief running opposition, which I think
actually helps Trump somewhat. And this is my conspiracy theory, Buck.
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I think that Joe Biden owes his entire political past
as president and political future as a candidate to the
fact that Donald Trump has to run. Biden's only reason
for existence at eighty two is Democrats believe they can
drag him across the finish line. Donald Trump is the
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life vest that is keeping Joe Biden from sinking underwater
and being abandoned by the Democrat Party. And so I think,
just think about this, everything that Joe Biden can do
to antagonize Trump, to put Trump into the news. Another
analogy for you, these are like two heavyweight boxers in
the twelfth round. Either one of them would fall down
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if they weren't leaning on each other. And I'll give
you the odds on the potential for a rematch when
we come back in this next segment, Buck, But I
do find it to be so intriguing the desperate ploys
by the Biden administration and their allies in the Justice
Department to make the mid term about Trump as opposed
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in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck told you in
the last segment he thinks it's gonna be Trump versus
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Biden again in twenty twenty four. Increasingly the Biden people
are trying to box out everyone else and make it
clear that they believe it's crazy that eighty two year
old Joe Biden needs to run for president. And if
you're doubting it, here is doctor doctor Jill Biden saying
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why her husband has to run in twenty twenty four.
Have you talked about it with him? Um, not yet,
We've been a little bit too busy. Not yet, but
I'm sure it'll be a discussion. Do you feel ready?
You and President Biden to to hit a second presidential campaign,
it has to be taxing. Well, you know it is taxing,
but you know, look at the look at all Joe
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has done. He has kept true to what he said
he would do, and so I think he just needs
to keep going. I think it's interesting dead straight odds
Buck does Santas Trump plus one twenty to be the
nominee for Republicans. But Joe Biden is now a substantial
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favorite to be the nominee in twenty twenty four. You
think he's gonna run. I've been saying this all along.
They don't look at what they're doing with Federman. They
don't care how gross, absurd and reckless it is to
put somebody forward who's clearly not up forward. It's just
about having the Democrat in the position of power, and
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the advisors and the apparatus around him does all the
heavy lifting. That's it doesn't matter. They'll put They'll put
anyone forward. Here are the numbers you ask. You can
gamble on this right now. If you believe Trump and
Biden are going to run against each other in twenty
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if you bet one hundred dollars on that being the matchup,
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So I mean that they're saying that that is less
likely to happen than to happen now. Factor in age.
Both these guys are older. That probably is in the
odds market. But you could go to England right now
and get nearly five to one odds on that being
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two three two six nine. Welcome back to Clay and
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Buck Show. We've been talking about the flurry of subpoenas
since two people in Trump's or bit having to do
with January six they've seen some cell phones. This has
all been escalating recently. What is going on here? What
is the endgame? Well, we'll get into it. Julie Kelly,
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senior writer American Greatness and author of January six. How
Democrats use the Capitol protest to launch a war on
terror against the political right is with us now, Julie.
Good to have you back. Hey, guys, thanks for heaving
me on. So, Julie, We're trying to always gauge how
much of this stuff is political theatrics and intimidation to
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affect the mid terms, to distract people from what's going on,
and how much is actually preparation for a seismic legal
maneuver by the Democrats. I mean a huge move, which
is what going after a former president would be. What
do you make of the recent I think it was
forty subpoenas that have been reported on the last week
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or so that have gone out to Trump allace. What's
the game plan that they're running with here. I think
it's all of the above. I think it's political theater.
I think it's optics. I think that's what the Mara
Lago FBI raid on August eighth was was just optics
to justify what eventually will be a criminal indictment of
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Donald Trump. Obviously, this is an ongoing campaign and crusade
of terror and intimidation, not just against Trump and his
allies and his advisers, but also of course to nearly
nine hundred Trump supporters who have so far been arrested
had their homes rated, charged with ridiculous offenses related to
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mostly non violent participation in the Capitol protests more than
twenty months ago. So this is a multifaceted operation that
we've all talked about will lead to criminal indictment of
Donald Trump on at least a few charges, probably obstruction, conspiracy,
tampering with evidence, witness witnesses, etc. And of course this
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is to influence the twenty twenty two election because we
see now how this timeline is all shaping up right
before the beginning of November. So I don't think that
they're going to charge I agree with you that there.
I'm increasingly convinced that they're going to try to charge
him with something. Julie and I think we had this
conversation before. I don't think they're going to do it
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before November, but I think they want the drip drip
drip of storylines to be coming out because Joe Biden
can't run on his own record. He has to run
against Trump because he's been a disaster. So let's I
don't know if you agree. Do you think it's going
to happen in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three
that he might be indicted. I think it's going to
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happen this year, and I think it's going to happen
before the election. Oh you think before the election? Yeah?
Expand on this. Well, first of all, they're not going
to abide by any twenty day DJ rule to not
interfere in election. They never have and they certainly are
not going to in this case. My argument is because
they keep ratcheting this up higher and higher every single day.
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So now we see it with this new flurry of subpoenas,
I feel like there's a chance they might raid Badminster
now amid the archive is claimed today that they don't
think they have all the classified documents. If they don't
indict Donald Trump, the Democrats will pay a political price
in November. They can't keep stringing this along for the
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next four or five six months. They can't keep me
and they can because their base is stupid and gullible
and vengeful. Tell us what you really think, Julie, Well, look,
you know, if it weren't for the base of the
Democratic Party, this wouldn't be happening. These people have a
blood lust in them, not just for Donald Trump, but
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for all of his voters as well. So we can't
just make this about the leaders at the Democratic Party.
This is about the base. We're speaking to. Julie Kelly Price.
We're speaking of Julie Kelly from American Greatnesstori as a
senior writer. Julie, how should we think of Mara LAGU documents,
national archives, upset classification stuff, YadA, YadA, plus January six
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subpoenas flying? Is this just are they doing the all
of the above approach at when it comes to legal abuse?
Or do you see how these pieces specifically fit together? Right? So?
Is this is this just like the shotgun to see
what they hit? Or are they actually taking? Are these
two things going together in a way that's already apparent
to you. I mean, I think they're throwing everything at
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the board that they possibly can, and a lot of
it sticks, especially related to the criminal prosecution and what's
happening in this DC court system. The dj is getting
away with everything that they want to and you have
a DC grand jury that's signed off in at least
six grand jury indictments for seditious conspiracy. This is a
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sense so rare. No America has ever been convicted of it.
But yet you have a DC grand jury at the
b hast of federal prosecutors indicting sixteen Americans who by
the way, participated, did not sting violent on January six
So this is also look at what's going to happen
over the next month. So we have now these new
subtoenas we could potentially have a rate of Bedminster. We
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have a new January sixth Committee hearing scheduled for the
end of September, two days after the major trial of
the Oathkeepers begins in Washington, DC. The January sixth Committee
has delayed the September thirt release of their report until
October of eighteenth. October eighteenth, So this is how all
these parts are moving together. Because of course he had
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the committee working with DOJ, working with the media to
make this all happen. So this is going to hit
a crescendo before November to interfere in the election. But
also I think to justify criminal charges against the Donald Trump. Okay,
so let's say you're right, Julie, and Trump gets charged
with crimes. What does that mean in your opinion for
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Trump as a potential twenty twenty four nominee, because I
think that's actually the most fascinating part about this. Do
charges actually make him more likely to be the Republican
nominee less likely? How does this play out as you
consider what the primary season would look like during all
of twenty twenty three and then into the twenty twenty
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four primary elections themselves. I mean, that's that is a
great question. I really don't know politically how it will
play with Republican voters. I know that there are people
who after the Mar Mar Lago raid, have achieved a
new level of outrage and even support for Donald Trump.
You know, this is how he's going to be treated,
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and by extension, all of us we'll walk through burning
broken glass to make sure that he is elected in
twenty twenty four. Of course, they want to turn off
the squishy Republican you know this is called a sac
suburban y moms who they're easily turned off anyway. But
how this will energize the base. I feel like it
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already has and will continue to do so. But look
what they want with an indictment of Trump before the election.
They want more violence they want the maga violence fascism
that Joe Biden and the regime says. They want that
to become a self fulfilling prophecy. So that's what they're hoping.
Another goal is of this indictment being announced before the election. Julie,
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is there any of your calling? So many shots here,
I know, I'm trying to keep track of it all. Yeah.
So if they go with the obstruction charge against Trump,
what kind of what kind of penalties do we think
they would go for? I mean, do you do you
think that is their goal? To prosecute Trump so that
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he is just obviously there's going to be a political
wounding effect of that. I've always the first president to
ever be indicted in this way. But do you think
they would actually take it to the point where they'd say, no,
we actually think he should serve six months, you know,
we actually want him to be incarcerated. Oh, absolutely, they
definitely do so. I've said all along I believe he
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will be charged, at the very least with obstruction of
an official proceeding. You see the language directly pulled from
that statute now included in the subpoenas, which has to
do with anyone who corruptly attempted to impede or obstruct
an official proceeding. That is language, this being used directly
in the subpoenas. So yes, look, it's a non violent selony,
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but it's punishable by up to twenty years in prison.
You have people who are going to jail for four,
five six years after either plea deals or being convicted
in a court on that nonviolent selony. So this will
be sort of a no brainer, not only for the
prosecutions but for any DC jury because we already have
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several plea deals and convictions. Now. It is on appeal
right now though in the DC Appellate Court this particular charge.
If for some reason this court invalidates that count, it
will have downstream ramifications, especially for the president for President Trump,
but there are other charges they can bring, conspiracy, tampering
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with evidence, other kind of garbage offenses that they've come
up with since January sixth. But yes, they will definitely
seek jail time for him, no doubt about it. Julie.
We're going to keep having you on. I love all
the reporting that you're doing, and if you nail all
of this, you're gonna look, you're gonna be one of
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the most brilliant analysts out there or craziest. Let's sea
go from crazy to uh maybe not so crazy. Hey, good,
welcome to the team. Yeah. I was gonna say Clay.
Clay likes to call shots deep up into the upper deck.
So you guys are a good company here. Julie, thanks
so much. Thanks guys, have a great date. I love
Julie the way she just like almost carry Lake style,
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just kind of off handedly she what did she called
the sack and wine moms. I mean, that's a great why.
She's like, they're gonna lose that anyway, because they're unstable
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We haven't
talked a lot about the Queen, although it is worth
noting how quickly discussion in many left wing universes turned
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from oh, let's talk about the queen's nearly seventy years
on the throne in the legacy of her, to oh,
we want reparations, we want them now. I've always been
fascinated buck by the reparation's argument in the United States,
in particular, because you know, slavery was only legal in
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the United States for eighty years. A lot of people
never actually do the math on it. United States was
a country from seventeen eighty three until eighteen sixty three
that allowed slavery to be permitted as an independent nation
eighty years. Most reparations for slavery would actually have to
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be paid by England, because England was in charge of
the United States colonies for the vast majority of our history,
and England spread slavery to knew what we call the
New World. It was. It was an English program. The
Transatlantic slave trade was initially an English phenomenon, not solely.
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There were other countries too, but the English certainly. But
you never married anybody who advocates for reparations say, okay,
England's on the hook for sixteen nineteen to seventeen eighty three,
which is whatever the math is on that well over
aundred and fifty years, and then the United States the
Emancipatient Proclamation was released became a law on January first,
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eighteen sixty three. So United States only had slavery for
eighty years as an independent nation. Almost no one ever
looks at the data and talks about it. But I
do think that's worth mentioning as all this reparation's craziness
spread surrounding the queen. But Buck Howard Stern is with
you in the fact that he's fired up about all
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the queen coverage, although he wants it all replaced with
more talk about Donald Trump, said, Howard Stern has full
on caught Trump arrangement syndrome. Yes, he's like, he's like
stage four Trump arrangement syndrome. However, even somebody with stage
four Trump arrangement can say smart things about other things.
Play let's listen to Queen. I mean, it's America. We
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don't have a queen. I get it. You know, Queen
was a nice lady. I guess she was born. You know,
my whole life, the queen has been the same queen
and it's a tradition there, and she did her duty
to her country. I get it, I get it, I
get it. But we got to get back to Trump
and where those papers are that they found the Marrow
lago and now they're saying abstraction of the queen. Now
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it's like annoying. It's like everyone wants to hear about
Trump a Trump twenty four to seven. He's almost super
astute point here. The Trump thing is obviously insane, But
on the queen thing, Yeah, yeah, America, I'm here to
tell you we don't. This is not our thing. This
is not our thing that we should be so focused on.
I'm just sorry, but that's the truth. Now you and
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Stern agree on that. Now Stern, to your point, has
completely lost his mind. I mean, Howard Stern from the
nineties would despise Howard Stern today because he's this meek,
perpetually offended, like woke, like pathetic version of himself. And
he said on his show, I want to play this
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because I want you to know what the anti Trump
community is out there saying. He says, maybe Trump offered
to sell everyone's nuclear secrets to Russia for fifty billion dollars. Now,
how this money would ever get to Trump? I don't
know that anybody ever tough to hide fifty billion dollars
in the couch cushions at Marlago. I'm just gonna say,
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but here is Trump. This is what This is what
Stern said on his show. Buck agrees with him about
the queen, but this is how crazy he is on Trump, Like,
I think he was trying to prove to the Russians,
like I'm really in control here. I've got top secret papers. Meanwhile,
he's shown him to the Russian So one of it
is just like to prove that he was president in
a way he doesn't even believe it. That's the most
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safe explanation. The other one is this is a guy
who badly wants to do business with Russia and Saudi Arabia.
Imagine if he says to him, look, man, give me
a couple of billion dollars and I'll show you like
where France keeps their nuclear weapons, and I'll you know,
you guys can see all the if you do business
with me, that would be a real dubious, kind of
horrible thing. And then the third is a straight out Hey,
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you guys want to buy this from me? I mean
I can sell it to you. Russia for like, you know,
fifty billion dollars, this is what you'll have. They'll know
everyone's nuclear secrets. This is crazy, buck, because if Trump
were really I don't know why this isn't discussed more,
if Trump were truly only focused on money, he would
have never gotten into politics at all. Politics has cost
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him a lot of money because all of his properties
have taken hits, all of it. I mean, it's a
lot dumber than that, Clay. It's really hard to enjoy
your fifty you're fifty billion dollars that you've sold nuclear
secrets to the Russians from a supermax prison in Colorado. Yeah,
you know, Trump, that's crazy. But even the argument that
Trump is motivated by money at this point, if he
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were solely motivated by money, he would have never run
for president. It's it's a it's a ridiculous, stupid analysis
of Trump. But the problem is that there is this
whole industry of finding new ways to say that Trump
is the worst person in the history of the world.
There's an entire audience of libs of Democrats who think
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they're very sophisticated and intelligent, and in some cases, I
guess think they're rebels. Too, even though they're just totally
going along with what the machinery tells them too. Of
the Democrat Party, they just want to hear the I'm
the worst person ever so crazy ideas with no basis
in reality. They love it. Clay. Yeah, and when we
come back, I want to hit you with a couple
of different data points. One of them is stunning to me.
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How many people out there, Buck, do you still think
believed the Hunter Biden the laptop is disinformation
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Hour two of The Clay and Buck
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Show gets going right now. We are weeks from the
mid terms, and man, it is interesting to see how
this is all playing out. Democrats that I've been in
touch with recently or that I've seen trying to explain
the Fetterman fiasco, are really running out of room to maneuver.
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It's not clear that he's going to debate doctor Oz.
We've been discussing that Oz is very sharp, very smart,
very polished. Fetterman shows up and when he does speak,
you think that it's like a robot with the batteries
fading in real time, which is obviously not confidence inspiring
to anybody who thinks that a United States senator should
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be somebody who you know, has full ability, health and
control of his faculties. But there's a there's a theory.
I mean, Clay, it's it's getting out of control. I mean,
it's very obvious with Fetterman. What's going on here? Yeah,
and I think this is significant. Even left leaning media
is now starting to talk about Fetterman. I'm glad that
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you brought it up, because I reminded me the Washington
Post editorial Did you see this that came out yesterday
after our show? John Fetterman needs to debate more than
once for the US Senate. This is from the Washington
Post editorial board right after our show finished yesterday. They
one of their top editors for the newspaper said people
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need to be able to see the Fetterman and this
editorial's pretty pretty crushing. The Federman and campaign squandered credibility
by concealing for the public for two days after his stroke.
They haven't been forthcoming with his medical history. It's not
good enough he's asking I'm reading from the from their editorial,
which is I think a sign of a lot of
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momentum for Oz. He's asking voters for a six year
contract without giving them enough information to make sound judgments
about whether he's up for such a demanding job. We need.
The Washington Post said, full disclosure of his health records,
and he should debate mister Oz before voters start casting
their ballots, and that this must happen. So, I mean,
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the fact that the Washington Post is calling him out
is a pretty significant detail. Well, these are lagging indicators
from regime media. Right when it becomes too obvious, when
it is no longer possible for them with a straight
face without destroying whatever shred of credibility they have that
they're effect based, reality based organization. When it's no longer defensible,
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then they start to write these editorials. We're at that
place with Fetterman. But but my thesis here, Clay is
this is a broader theme. There are a number of
candidates who are really just trying to trying to do
the Biden and the basement routine, hoping that regime media
the narratives of Trump and the insurrection, and hey, inflation
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is not really that bad, it's just really bad, and
all these things we're hearing it. You know, the tops decision,
the women are going to rush to the polls. It's
not even worth Republicans voting anymore. All these things that
are i think at some level meant to do Republican
enthusiasm suppression and to turn out the left wing base
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and avoid the fact that the candidates the Democrats are
putting forward in a number of these key races are
just not good. And we talked about Fetterman, which now
and this is beyond doubt, and that's this is a
health that you mean like, this is deep sinism that
he stay, he should suspend his campaign. This is what
they're doing is gross. It's wrong that this guy is
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going to be the Democrat nominee from that state because
they're essentially hoping that they can get away with an
emperor has no closed situation there worth enough for its
not with all the voters, but even in Arizona. Carrie Lake,
who we both think is a future star of the GOP,
she put out this ad because Katie Hobbs's basically saying
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I will not share a debate stage with Carrie Lake.
Carrie is hitting back on this one. For the first
time in the history of our state, there will be
no clean Elections gubernatorial debate, bucking state tradition. My opponent,
Katie Hobbs has made it official she will not share
a debate stage with me under any circumstance. Now, I'd
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like to speak directly to you, Katie. You think this
issue is going to go away, that Arizonas will just
throw up their hands and say, oh, well, no debate
this year. Well, you're sorely mistaken. I have ask the
Clean Elections Commission to extend the deadline for you to
confirm your attendance to the day of the debate. Should
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you grow a spine between now in October twelfth, there
will be an empty chair waiting for you on the
debate stage. This is what needs to happen. Remember how
we said Republicans need to go on offense, need to
point out what their opponents they have to force them
into the public eye. Because the game plan for Hobbs,
for Fetterman, for you go down the list of all
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of them, for all of them is oh, I'm not
like one of those crazy left wing gender transition for
twelve year old Democrats who's spending all the money and
making your grocery prices and your gas prices go way up.
I'm like a nice, moderate, normal Democrat. You know, I'm
not one of those. It's all a lie, and their
game is to have the regime media at the national
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level and then at the state level. Unfortunately, all the
major state newspapers and all these places, whether it's Pittsburgh, Atlanta,
anywhere in Arizona, obviously Arizona, I mean Atlanta, I'm thinking
about Georgia. But the biggest, the biggest newspapers in all
these states are essentially carrying water for the Democrat candidates
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between that, CNN, the New York Times. They think that
that's how they win the election. Just have these candidates
that no one really gets to ask any questions too well,
they're trying to hide. And I think it's significant not
only form from radical propositions that they have a spouse,
but how good is Carrie Lake. I mean, she is
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such a stud I said last week that you know, guys,
I know I love to gamble that I would like
to go with a parlay. I think Carry Lake is
going to end up winning comfortably in Arizona. She is
just so smooth. She's incredibly crisp, super talented at communication skills,
and devastating when she said that the way she just
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dropped in that grow a Spine line was so well done.
I think that herschel Walker is gonna win in Georgia,
and I believe that doctor Oz is gonna end up
winning in Pennsylvania. If I could hit on those as
a par lay out there right now, I believe all
three of those I don't believe, I know it. All
three of those candidates are considered gambling underdogs right now.
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If you look at the overall market place. You can
gamble on American elections legally overseas and so there's reliable
markets there. I think all three of those underdogs are
gonna win. That'd be a heck of a parlay pay. Anyway,
I think we should have legal we should we should
have legal political outcomes gambling in this country. We can sports.
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Why can't you do it on political outcomes? Because so
many of these pundits, man, these people that are, oh,
I know what's gonna happen. Yeah, let's see the record,
you know, yeah, you know, I agree. It's not to
be a tough thing. When you did four years in
a row of sports gambling on TV, you can't run
and hide from every pick you've ever made on a game.
And it's tough, right. If you can get to fifty
two point three percent in sports gambling, you're a stud.
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If you can get to fifty five percent, you end
up like Biff and back to the future. That means
you lose forty five percent of the time. But it's
hard to beat the market in anything, right, hard to
beat the SMP five hundred, it's hard to beat consensus opinion.
And I just think all three of those candidates, carry Lake,
doctor Oz and herschel Walker are being undervalued right now.
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Can you tell me what the I don't mean right
this second, but can we do a you know where
to look for this? I'm wondering because my belief right now,
my strong belief right now, is that Joe Biden is running.
That I am more confident on than most other predictions
that I make. Joe Biden is going to run for
reelection and Donald Trump is going to run against him,
and that we're gonna have a replay that is mine.
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You think I can, I can look up. I will
give you. I'll look it up during the commercial break.
I will tell you what that prediction would pay to
this exact day if you were betting in England right
now on that being, you can bet on the matchup
of an election. You can bet on Biden versus Trump.
You know part two. And that's a perfect and smooth
transition here, Clay to the fixation that they still have
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on Trump. Now, remember we talk about this in the
context of understanding that when the Libs, when the Democrats,
when the Merrick Garland doj does this stuff at some
level the process is the punishment for the people involved,
So just getting the lawyers and having to deal with
all this nonsense from the DJ about January sixth, that's
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part of it. Also, it's a distraction tactic away from
the wide open border. I mean, do you see you
know your colleague at Fox, Bill mulugion, he's got this
live video of people in all Camo with essentially rope
ladders going over and I mean it's the border's wide open.
Does an incredible job covering the border region. I mean,
he really does. It's crazy though, when you look at
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the numbers, when you start to actually so anyway, we'll
talk more about the border, but that's wide open. All
these things the economy, inflation, inflation numbers super bad. That's
where the market got crushed by eight hundred plus points today.
They want us talking about Trump. Now. That is in
some ways of distraction, but we also have to be prepared.
I think this is politically the bazuka they think they
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have in their back pocket, so to speak. I think
the Libs believe that if all else fails to divert
what we've been what I just talked about, where we're
talking about the Trump Biden matchup that's coming, they want
to muddy up the waters. They want to do something,
and that's why we have to take seriously. Still, we're
gonna have Julie Kelly joining us at the bottom of
(10:38):
this hour the possibility they are lighting this up for
some kind of a criminal prosecution of Donald Trump. Justice
Department this was just a New York Times SPECI yesterday
issued forty subpoenas in a week, expanding its January sixth inquiry.
They've also seized phones of two top Trump advisors. I mean, Clay,
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this could just be distraction to you know, and we
don't know if it is or not until we see
if they prosecute or not. Right clearly, if they don't
decide to prosecute, well then this is just a distraction.
But I think when you're talking about dozens and dozens
of subpoenas and doing all this, we'll ask Julie about this.
I don't think they've made the determination to prosecute Trump yet,
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but I don't think it's off the table yet. Based
on what we're seeing right now, what do you think
I think they're going to try to find a way
to charge Trump in twenty three I'm not sure that
it's going to be over these documents, although it could be.
What I think is going on right now is inflations
at eight point three percent. They are trying desperately to
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make twenty twenty two about Donald Trump. And to me,
twenty twenty three is all going to be about Donald Trump,
because is he gonna run? Who's gonna run against him?
How to Republicans respond to the possibility that he might
get indicted by his chief running opposition, which I think
actually helps Trump somewhat. And this is my conspiracy theory, Buck.
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I think that Joe Biden owes his entire political past
as president and political future as a candidate to the
fact that Donald Trump has to run. Biden's only reason
for existence at eighty two is Democrats believe they can
drag him across the finish line. Donald Trump is the
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life vest that is keeping Joe Biden from sinking underwater
and being abandoned by the Democrat Party. And so I think,
just think about this, everything that Joe Biden can do
to antagonize Trump, to put Trump into the news. Another
analogy for you, these are like two heavyweight boxers in
the twelfth round. Either one of them would fall down
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if they weren't leaning on each other. And I'll give
you the odds on the potential for a rematch when
we come back in this next segment, Buck, But I
do find it to be so intriguing the desperate ploys
by the Biden administration and their allies in the Justice
Department to make the mid term about Trump as opposed
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in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck told you in
the last segment he thinks it's gonna be Trump versus
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Biden again in twenty twenty four. Increasingly the Biden people
are trying to box out everyone else and make it
clear that they believe it's crazy that eighty two year
old Joe Biden needs to run for president. And if
you're doubting it, here is doctor doctor Jill Biden saying
(16:08):
why her husband has to run in twenty twenty four.
Have you talked about it with him? Um, not yet,
We've been a little bit too busy. Not yet, but
I'm sure it'll be a discussion. Do you feel ready?
You and President Biden to to hit a second presidential campaign,
it has to be taxing. Well, you know it is taxing,
but you know, look at the look at all Joe
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has done. He has kept true to what he said
he would do, and so I think he just needs
to keep going. I think it's interesting dead straight odds
Buck does Santas Trump plus one twenty to be the
nominee for Republicans. But Joe Biden is now a substantial
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favorite to be the nominee in twenty twenty four. You
think he's gonna run. I've been saying this all along.
They don't look at what they're doing with Federman. They
don't care how gross, absurd and reckless it is to
put somebody forward who's clearly not up forward. It's just
about having the Democrat in the position of power, and
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the advisors and the apparatus around him does all the
heavy lifting. That's it doesn't matter. They'll put They'll put
anyone forward. Here are the numbers you ask. You can
gamble on this right now. If you believe Trump and
Biden are going to run against each other in twenty
twenty four, you can get plus four fifty odds. So
if you bet one hundred dollars on that being the matchup,
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buck you would get back four hundred and fifty dollars.
So I mean that they're saying that that is less
likely to happen than to happen now. Factor in age.
Both these guys are older. That probably is in the
odds market. But you could go to England right now
and get nearly five to one odds on that being
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two three two six nine. Welcome back to Clay and
(19:22):
Buck Show. We've been talking about the flurry of subpoenas
since two people in Trump's or bit having to do
with January six they've seen some cell phones. This has
all been escalating recently. What is going on here? What
is the endgame? Well, we'll get into it. Julie Kelly,
(19:44):
senior writer American Greatness and author of January six. How
Democrats use the Capitol protest to launch a war on
terror against the political right is with us now, Julie.
Good to have you back. Hey, guys, thanks for heaving
me on. So, Julie, We're trying to always gauge how
much of this stuff is political theatrics and intimidation to
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affect the mid terms, to distract people from what's going on,
and how much is actually preparation for a seismic legal
maneuver by the Democrats. I mean a huge move, which
is what going after a former president would be. What
do you make of the recent I think it was
forty subpoenas that have been reported on the last week
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or so that have gone out to Trump allace. What's
the game plan that they're running with here. I think
it's all of the above. I think it's political theater.
I think it's optics. I think that's what the Mara
Lago FBI raid on August eighth was was just optics
to justify what eventually will be a criminal indictment of
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Donald Trump. Obviously, this is an ongoing campaign and crusade
of terror and intimidation, not just against Trump and his
allies and his advisers, but also of course to nearly
nine hundred Trump supporters who have so far been arrested
had their homes rated, charged with ridiculous offenses related to
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mostly non violent participation in the Capitol protests more than
twenty months ago. So this is a multifaceted operation that
we've all talked about will lead to criminal indictment of
Donald Trump on at least a few charges, probably obstruction, conspiracy,
tampering with evidence, witness witnesses, etc. And of course this
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is to influence the twenty twenty two election because we
see now how this timeline is all shaping up right
before the beginning of November. So I don't think that
they're going to charge I agree with you that there.
I'm increasingly convinced that they're going to try to charge
him with something. Julie and I think we had this
conversation before. I don't think they're going to do it
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before November, but I think they want the drip drip
drip of storylines to be coming out because Joe Biden
can't run on his own record. He has to run
against Trump because he's been a disaster. So let's I
don't know if you agree. Do you think it's going
to happen in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three
that he might be indicted. I think it's going to
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happen this year, and I think it's going to happen
before the election. Oh you think before the election? Yeah?
Expand on this. Well, first of all, they're not going
to abide by any twenty day DJ rule to not
interfere in election. They never have and they certainly are
not going to in this case. My argument is because
they keep ratcheting this up higher and higher every single day.
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So now we see it with this new flurry of subpoenas,
I feel like there's a chance they might raid Badminster
now amid the archive is claimed today that they don't
think they have all the classified documents. If they don't
indict Donald Trump, the Democrats will pay a political price
in November. They can't keep stringing this along for the
(22:57):
next four or five six months. They can't keep me
and they can because their base is stupid and gullible
and vengeful. Tell us what you really think, Julie, Well, look,
you know, if it weren't for the base of the
Democratic Party, this wouldn't be happening. These people have a
blood lust in them, not just for Donald Trump, but
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for all of his voters as well. So we can't
just make this about the leaders at the Democratic Party.
This is about the base. We're speaking to. Julie Kelly Price.
We're speaking of Julie Kelly from American Greatnesstori as a
senior writer. Julie, how should we think of Mara LAGU documents,
national archives, upset classification stuff, YadA, YadA, plus January six
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subpoenas flying? Is this just are they doing the all
of the above approach at when it comes to legal abuse?
Or do you see how these pieces specifically fit together? Right? So?
Is this is this just like the shotgun to see
what they hit? Or are they actually taking? Are these
two things going together in a way that's already apparent
to you. I mean, I think they're throwing everything at
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the board that they possibly can, and a lot of
it sticks, especially related to the criminal prosecution and what's
happening in this DC court system. The dj is getting
away with everything that they want to and you have
a DC grand jury that's signed off in at least
six grand jury indictments for seditious conspiracy. This is a
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sense so rare. No America has ever been convicted of it.
But yet you have a DC grand jury at the
b hast of federal prosecutors indicting sixteen Americans who by
the way, participated, did not sting violent on January six
So this is also look at what's going to happen
over the next month. So we have now these new
subtoenas we could potentially have a rate of Bedminster. We
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have a new January sixth Committee hearing scheduled for the
end of September, two days after the major trial of
the Oathkeepers begins in Washington, DC. The January sixth Committee
has delayed the September thirt release of their report until
October of eighteenth. October eighteenth, So this is how all
these parts are moving together. Because of course he had
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the committee working with DOJ, working with the media to
make this all happen. So this is going to hit
a crescendo before November to interfere in the election. But
also I think to justify criminal charges against the Donald Trump. Okay,
so let's say you're right, Julie, and Trump gets charged
with crimes. What does that mean in your opinion for
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Trump as a potential twenty twenty four nominee, because I
think that's actually the most fascinating part about this. Do
charges actually make him more likely to be the Republican
nominee less likely? How does this play out as you
consider what the primary season would look like during all
of twenty twenty three and then into the twenty twenty
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four primary elections themselves. I mean, that's that is a
great question. I really don't know politically how it will
play with Republican voters. I know that there are people
who after the Mar Mar Lago raid, have achieved a
new level of outrage and even support for Donald Trump.
You know, this is how he's going to be treated,
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and by extension, all of us we'll walk through burning
broken glass to make sure that he is elected in
twenty twenty four. Of course, they want to turn off
the squishy Republican you know this is called a sac
suburban y moms who they're easily turned off anyway. But
how this will energize the base. I feel like it
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already has and will continue to do so. But look
what they want with an indictment of Trump before the election.
They want more violence they want the maga violence fascism
that Joe Biden and the regime says. They want that
to become a self fulfilling prophecy. So that's what they're hoping.
Another goal is of this indictment being announced before the election. Julie,
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is there any of your calling? So many shots here,
I know, I'm trying to keep track of it all. Yeah.
So if they go with the obstruction charge against Trump,
what kind of what kind of penalties do we think
they would go for? I mean, do you do you
think that is their goal? To prosecute Trump so that
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he is just obviously there's going to be a political
wounding effect of that. I've always the first president to
ever be indicted in this way. But do you think
they would actually take it to the point where they'd say, no,
we actually think he should serve six months, you know,
we actually want him to be incarcerated. Oh, absolutely, they
definitely do so. I've said all along I believe he
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will be charged, at the very least with obstruction of
an official proceeding. You see the language directly pulled from
that statute now included in the subpoenas, which has to
do with anyone who corruptly attempted to impede or obstruct
an official proceeding. That is language, this being used directly
in the subpoenas. So yes, look, it's a non violent selony,
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but it's punishable by up to twenty years in prison.
You have people who are going to jail for four,
five six years after either plea deals or being convicted
in a court on that nonviolent selony. So this will
be sort of a no brainer, not only for the
prosecutions but for any DC jury because we already have
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several plea deals and convictions. Now. It is on appeal
right now though in the DC Appellate Court this particular charge.
If for some reason this court invalidates that count, it
will have downstream ramifications, especially for the president for President Trump,
but there are other charges they can bring, conspiracy, tampering
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with evidence, other kind of garbage offenses that they've come
up with since January sixth. But yes, they will definitely
seek jail time for him, no doubt about it. Julie.
We're going to keep having you on. I love all
the reporting that you're doing, and if you nail all
of this, you're gonna look, you're gonna be one of
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the most brilliant analysts out there or craziest. Let's sea
go from crazy to uh maybe not so crazy. Hey, good,
welcome to the team. Yeah. I was gonna say Clay.
Clay likes to call shots deep up into the upper deck.
So you guys are a good company here. Julie, thanks
so much. Thanks guys, have a great date. I love
Julie the way she just like almost carry Lake style,
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We haven't
talked a lot about the Queen, although it is worth
noting how quickly discussion in many left wing universes turned
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from oh, let's talk about the queen's nearly seventy years
on the throne in the legacy of her, to oh,
we want reparations, we want them now. I've always been
fascinated buck by the reparation's argument in the United States,
in particular, because you know, slavery was only legal in
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the United States for eighty years. A lot of people
never actually do the math on it. United States was
a country from seventeen eighty three until eighteen sixty three
that allowed slavery to be permitted as an independent nation
eighty years. Most reparations for slavery would actually have to
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be paid by England, because England was in charge of
the United States colonies for the vast majority of our history,
and England spread slavery to knew what we call the
New World. It was. It was an English program. The
Transatlantic slave trade was initially an English phenomenon, not solely.
(32:24):
There were other countries too, but the English certainly. But
you never married anybody who advocates for reparations say, okay,
England's on the hook for sixteen nineteen to seventeen eighty three,
which is whatever the math is on that well over
aundred and fifty years, and then the United States the
Emancipatient Proclamation was released became a law on January first,
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eighteen sixty three. So United States only had slavery for
eighty years as an independent nation. Almost no one ever
looks at the data and talks about it. But I
do think that's worth mentioning as all this reparation's craziness
spread surrounding the queen. But Buck Howard Stern is with
you in the fact that he's fired up about all
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the queen coverage, although he wants it all replaced with
more talk about Donald Trump, said, Howard Stern has full
on caught Trump arrangement syndrome. Yes, he's like, he's like
stage four Trump arrangement syndrome. However, even somebody with stage
four Trump arrangement can say smart things about other things.
Play let's listen to Queen. I mean, it's America. We
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don't have a queen. I get it. You know, Queen
was a nice lady. I guess she was born. You know,
my whole life, the queen has been the same queen
and it's a tradition there, and she did her duty
to her country. I get it, I get it, I
get it. But we got to get back to Trump
and where those papers are that they found the Marrow
lago and now they're saying abstraction of the queen. Now
(33:52):
it's like annoying. It's like everyone wants to hear about
Trump a Trump twenty four to seven. He's almost super
astute point here. The Trump thing is obviously insane, But
on the queen thing, Yeah, yeah, America, I'm here to
tell you we don't. This is not our thing. This
is not our thing that we should be so focused on.
I'm just sorry, but that's the truth. Now you and
(34:14):
Stern agree on that. Now Stern, to your point, has
completely lost his mind. I mean, Howard Stern from the
nineties would despise Howard Stern today because he's this meek,
perpetually offended, like woke, like pathetic version of himself. And
he said on his show, I want to play this
(34:36):
because I want you to know what the anti Trump
community is out there saying. He says, maybe Trump offered
to sell everyone's nuclear secrets to Russia for fifty billion dollars. Now,
how this money would ever get to Trump? I don't
know that anybody ever tough to hide fifty billion dollars
in the couch cushions at Marlago. I'm just gonna say,
(34:56):
but here is Trump. This is what This is what
Stern said on his show. Buck agrees with him about
the queen, but this is how crazy he is on Trump, Like,
I think he was trying to prove to the Russians,
like I'm really in control here. I've got top secret papers. Meanwhile,
he's shown him to the Russian So one of it
is just like to prove that he was president in
a way he doesn't even believe it. That's the most
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safe explanation. The other one is this is a guy
who badly wants to do business with Russia and Saudi Arabia.
Imagine if he says to him, look, man, give me
a couple of billion dollars and I'll show you like
where France keeps their nuclear weapons, and I'll you know,
you guys can see all the if you do business
with me, that would be a real dubious, kind of
horrible thing. And then the third is a straight out Hey,
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you guys want to buy this from me? I mean
I can sell it to you. Russia for like, you know,
fifty billion dollars, this is what you'll have. They'll know
everyone's nuclear secrets. This is crazy, buck, because if Trump
were really I don't know why this isn't discussed more,
if Trump were truly only focused on money, he would
have never gotten into politics at all. Politics has cost
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him a lot of money because all of his properties
have taken hits, all of it. I mean, it's a
lot dumber than that, Clay. It's really hard to enjoy
your fifty you're fifty billion dollars that you've sold nuclear
secrets to the Russians from a supermax prison in Colorado. Yeah,
you know, Trump, that's crazy. But even the argument that
Trump is motivated by money at this point, if he
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were solely motivated by money, he would have never run
for president. It's it's a it's a ridiculous, stupid analysis
of Trump. But the problem is that there is this
whole industry of finding new ways to say that Trump
is the worst person in the history of the world.
There's an entire audience of libs of Democrats who think
(36:48):
they're very sophisticated and intelligent, and in some cases, I
guess think they're rebels. Too, even though they're just totally
going along with what the machinery tells them too. Of
the Democrat Party, they just want to hear the I'm
the worst person ever so crazy ideas with no basis
in reality. They love it. Clay. Yeah, and when we
come back, I want to hit you with a couple
of different data points. One of them is stunning to me.
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How many people out there, Buck, do you still think
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