January 21, 2023 • 36 mins
Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Ivan Provorov refuses to celebrate gayness, wouldn't wear pride jersey. NHL, like other sports leagues and corporations, has gone all-in on wokeness. Is Trump's return to Twitter a good or bad move? Former Force Recon Marine Chad Robichaux, author of Saving Aziz: How the Mission to Help One Became a Calling to Rescue Thousands from the Taliban, joins Clay and Buck with Aziz to discuss the book. DeSantis cuts taxes in Florida, prohibits vax and mask mandates.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back again now number three Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
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you to go sign up there. Buck. One of the
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big stories of the past I would say decade, has
been the very rapid transition between let me live the
life that I want to live as an individual, to
which I think most people when it comes to adults
have kind of assented. Right, you can make choices in
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your adult life that I might disagree with, that you
might disagree with some of our choices that we make
in our lives. Some of you out there might disagree with.
But as adults, there's very much I would say, a
live and let live mindset that is very prominent, very common.
But along the way that hasn't been enough. It hasn't
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been enough for someone to live their lifestyle. Now there
is a demand that has become very insidious. I would say,
in our culture today, we're not only does someone have
to live their life, you have to endorse and celebrate
the choices that they are making in their life. And
this transition between mutual respect in terms of adults being
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able to make adult decisions and no, no, no no, it's
not only you have to allow me to make my choice.
You have to support and praise the fact that I
have made my choice. And that has translated into all
facets of society. And that is the background for what
happened last night in Philadelphia. The Flyers are the NHL team,
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the professional hockey team in the city of Philadelphia. They
had a pride night, which has become very very common
in the world of sports, and as part of that,
you are not only required to acknowledge that people can
choose who they want to love, you're also now required
to celebrate their life choices. It's a big growth in
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the expectation, and what happened last night was a Russian
hockey player by the name of Ivan Prokarov decided, even
though he played for the Philadelphia Flyers, he was not
willing to put on a gay Pride jersey as a
part of their festivities last night in Philadelphia. And this
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has turned into a big story as he is being
ripped to shreds by many different woke sports media out there.
But he said it was simply a matter of his
Russian Orthodox faith. Listen to this when he was asked
about it immediately after the game. I respect everybody. My
choice is to stay through to myself and my religion.
That's all I'm gonna say. So he's now getting lambasted,
(03:28):
as you can well imagine Buck for his decision not
to wear a gay Pride jersey. This comes on the
heels of a several Tampa Bay Rays players, if I
remember in Major League Baseball also saying hey, yeah, you
know what, we'd prefer not to wear the gay Pride jerseys.
There's a big difference between allowing people to make their
own choice, Buck, and demanding that you celebrate their choice.
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And that is a distinction that has been lost in
many ways. It starts out with let's all just let's
all just accept let's all just be accepting, let's let's
just be cool to each other, and it's about decency
and everything, and that appeals to good people, and people say, yeah,
of course, I want to be accepting and I want
everyone to feel good and I'm not here to make
anyone feel bad, and so sure we can let's be
accepting or let's be tolerant. Usually it starts with tolerance,
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and then they'll start saying, well, you really got to
accept this, and then it's actually you have to celebrate this. Yeah,
And that's the way the left has looked at the
slope is slippery. This is the way they've operated on
many things in the social issues realm. And I just
think it's it's interesting to me that the the NHL
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who's making this decision at the NH question, I like,
I really don't know. I mean, I figure you would
have a better idea. I'm sitting here thinking, is the
NHL audience demanding this anyway? You know? The NHL tweeted
out recently and we wrote about this at OutKick trans
Women or real Women, but kind of out of nowhere
because I'm looking around, I'm thinking, like, the average NHL
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fan is a and again I'm stereotyping, but is a
Midwestern beer drinking uh, cold weather loving Uh kind of
beefy dude, right. I mean if if I were like,
if you were like, hey, what's the average NHL fan
look like, I'd be like, he's probably forty nine years old,
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weighs forty pounds more than he should, loves beer, and
likes watching guys fight. General, like, yeah, not a lot
of pronoun pronouns in the in the bio or not
a lot of pronouns in the bios. Not a lot
of big mask wears. Not a lot of people out
there that are saying trans women can get pregnant, uh,
men can get preyed. There's not a lot of that
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out there. And so it's a fabulous question because this
also ties in in the state of Florida. The NHL
had a job fair. I'm sure you saw this buck
in South Florida where they specifically said white men aren't
welcome at this job fair, and then Ron DeSantis clapped
back on it and they back down. But when you
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consider that the HL is saying transwomen or women that
they're doing LBGTQ whatever. The additional letter is Pride Knights,
and it's considered now unacceptable. One of the ESPN reporters
Buck came out and said, well, this is really unacceptable
because this same defenseman was willing to wear a military
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support jersey. And I'm like, well, that's totally different, right,
Like you could support the military and also you know,
be willing to say hey, thank you for everybody out
there who's who's fighting for the country. The fact that
you would even equate that with a gay Pride jersey
is to me quite a bit different. But yeah, I
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think it's a great example of alienating the base audience
that you have that supports your product that in no
way is woke at all. In fact, they despise this
stuff generally speaking. And have they done this in other leagues?
Yoh yeah. Has Major League Baseball has done it because
they had a controversy because a couple of Rays play
refuse to wear the jerseys. I don't think the NFL
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has done it to my knowledge, on the jersey itself,
but it's definitely spreading. I'm sure the NBA has done
it because if you can do something woke. The NBA
has done it in an incredibly woke degree. But this
is where one of these things where the athletes and
buck the sports media are not in alignment here. And
(07:27):
I think you saw this with Damar Hamlin with the
extreme religious response from players joining at midfield to pray
things like that. That's not the same dynamic that would
exist in the press box. The average member of the
sports media is not praying before a football game. It's
very common though, among the players and coaches themselves. I
mean kind of just note, you know, being told that
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you have to support anything, I find you annoying. Like
if I yeah, for example, you know, I voted for
Trump twice. I think Trump did a great job. If
someone said, well, you have to you're not allowed to
be at this rally unless you're wearing a MAGA hat
for example, right, just put this out there. Nothing against
Maga hats, but I don't want to be told that
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I have to do that, right, And that's for something
that I totally support. I just think that the notion
that people should have to um, you know, in an area,
especially if you're a hockey players, there's nothing to do
with playing hockey. I don't think you should be forced
to support any political cause because it sets this president
or any cause, you know, period. I just I don't
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really understand why anybody would think that wouldn't lead to
lead to trouble. I mean because if you let me
kind of take it to the next level, if you
can be told you have to wear it was a
it was a gay Pride jersey? Was that the gay Pride?
I don't even know the story Clay told me about this,
the story gay Pride Jersey. Why can't you be told
you have to wear a BLM jersey? Yeah, I don't.
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I don't know why you wouldn't be You couldn't be
told you don't have to wear a BLM jersey if
you're gonna play a play hockey. You know, hockey is
not diverse enough time to put on the BLM jerseys, right,
That's you could see how that would happen very easily.
So I just think that this is a bad precedent
to set. Well, it's bullying basically because you're telling somebody, hey,
you have to accept And again, there's a big difference
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between accepting like you have the right to make a
choice and you should have a right to make a
choice about whether you want to celebrate something or not.
And I just think it's becoming a we've shifted from
the acceptance to celebrate it really really rapidly out there.
And you know, I understand the point of things that
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are blandly inoffensive. Right, So if you choose that you
want to wear pink cleats because you're fighting breast cancer
in the NFL, I don't think there's any problem with that, right.
Players sometimes wear pink cleats or pink you know, arm
sleeves or whatever else on their uniform. But if you
mandated that everybody had to do anything that has nothing
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to do with their job itself, I think your analogy
of wearing them AGA hat even if you support Trump
is well taken because the idea that you would have
a requirement as to what you're gonna wear based on
your political beliefs, it's really it's really becoming I'm the
present and you look at it with the Ukraine flag,
(10:17):
with the bios, with the him, her and the pronoun
the email signatures, like it's really kind of crazy. Yeah.
I mean I don't want to be unless it's a
wedding or a funeral, or I'm in the White House.
I don't want to be told to wear a jacket
and tie. So I definitely don't want to be told
that I have to wear something that has some kind
of political or cause or any other affiliation. I bet
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a huge percentage of our audience buck has felt pressure
to change their email signature if you have an email
address at work, to have your preferred pronouns in it.
I remember the first time I saw preferred pronouns anywhere.
It was actually at Vanderbilt University and where I went
to law school. And this was years after that, but
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I remember seeing somebody with a name tag and they
had their pronouns on and this is probably a decade ago,
and I thought, this is the dumbest thing that I
have ever seen in my life. And now almost every
corporation has got the signature line where you can put
your pronouns in it, and if you don't, I've gotten
tons of emails. I bet you have two buck from
(11:21):
people who say, hey, my spouse or my company is
requiring this or whatever it is. And if you don't
celebrate and comply, as if sharing your pronouns as a
normal thing, there are consequences at work. What do you
think will happen if you if you for for most
people who work in some realm of corporate America. You know,
(11:41):
if you work at a corporate law firm in New
York or you're at one of those big management agencies
out in LA. Do you think you could do you
think anybody would challenge you if you put one of
the you know how they have these new pronouns now too,
Like my pronouns are like you know z as an
X And do you think that HR would want to
(12:02):
go down that path and try to mess with you
or would they just have to respect it? You know,
if my pronouns were like Z and you know Z noon,
you know zem. I mean I think that there was
a great case from a college campus, and I remember
who the kid was, but he said that, you know,
you got to choose how you were addressed, and he
said that he wanted to be addressed as his majesty
every time that he was called on in class, and
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that those were his preferred, you know, choice terms. And
it turned into a huge controversy because there's like, well,
you're mocking the process by which we call on people.
They said, no, no, the idea that you have preferred
pronouns is the mockery. I'm just pointing out the absurdity
of it by choosing a signifier to identify myself in class,
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and it actually is really funny. So you know, if
you start to make up the idea of choosing your
pronouns to me gets really funny because it does lend
itself naturally to well, I get to choose my adjectives,
so I can't be referred to an any article unless
you say the incredibly brilliant and handsome Clay Travis, Like, No,
you don't get to choose how people define you. And
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yet that's effectively what we're being told exactly what they're
doing all the time. The pronoun. I always say this
to people. The pronoun thing is not minor. It's not
about politeness. That's not why they care so much. They
actually use the desire to be polite as a weapon
against people of reason, sense and rationality. And they can't
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play the game of it's no big deal, just do it.
If you don't do it, it's a huge deal. That's
that's exactly what they try to do all the time.
Why are you so focused on this? They say? And
you say, why are you Yeah, I've been proverb is
just like, yeah, you know, I'm just not that into it.
I'm gonna choose not to do it. And they're like,
what do you. It reminds me again, I think we've
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(16:44):
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(17:26):
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Welcome back in Clay, Tarravis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through
the Wednesday edition of the program. We're joined now by
a Robus Show former Force recon marine and a zz
An interpreter. He rescued from Afghanistan, inspiring a new book,
saving azse how the mission to help one became a
calling to rescue thousands from the Taliban. Also, Save Our
(19:15):
Allies has been founded by Chad, a nonprofit that evacuated
seventeen thousand people from Afghanistan, currently operates in Ukraine as well.
Chad and Azse are in our New York City studio
right now. We appreciate you guys being here, and Chad,
I will start with you. Many people I think have
(19:37):
forgotten about the chaos that came with our evacuation from Afghanistan.
But since we left there, there are reports that thousands
of people who have connections to America, who worked for
American soldiers are still stuck behind in Afghanistan. What have
you seen and what can you tell us about the
situation on the ground in Afghanistan right now? Yeah, Unfortunately,
(20:01):
I don't believe this is not by accident that this
has been um not just forgotten, but swept under the rug,
and the mainstream media has really been reluctant to report
on it. And I think the White House sustend everything
they could to hide this, uh this story. We still
have seventy five thousand of our of our interpreters that
are qualified for SIV special immigrant visa UH program and
not only qualified, but we're promised by our government for
(20:23):
their service to us for twenty years, they're still in
Afghanistan as well as other lilypad countries around the world.
In addition to that, we have their family members in
each of them or vulnerable. You're talking about three hundred
thousand people that have uh served the American effort in Afghanistan,
and all of them vulnerable. They're being systematically hunted down,
pulled out of their homes at night, beaten to tortured,
(20:45):
killed and executed for their for their service to our country.
And uh, you know, we we have a state department
just refusing to acknowledge it, to do the right thing
and uh and it's still happening every day. And meanwhile, uh,
you know, we have forty million Afghan residents, twenty million
women that are being sexually enslaved dealing with you know
Syria law, not the Taliban two point hole, but the
(21:07):
same old brutal uh you know desh Christ that they
are who are who are marrying off nine year old
girls and eleven year old girls for a few hundred bucks,
taking advantage of the starving their people to make them desperate.
Who is just last week took away women's medical rights
by saying that women are allowed to see male doctors,
(21:28):
but they're not allowed to be doctors and allowed to
be educated. And so the whole thing is just terrible,
and the fact that the White House has done such
an effective job of making us go away as is
more the reason of why I want this bookout saving
is ease, so people know the truth. Hey, Chad, it's buck.
Really appreciate you joining us and thank you for your service.
Sir um, what would you like to see the Biden
(21:49):
administration do? I mean if you could get a sit
down with Biden and you know, top national security apparatus folks,
what do you think is is the path forward if
they were to get serious and engage on this issue
and keep the word of the American government that was
given to those who were helping people like you who
(22:10):
were serving our country in uniform in Afghanistan. Yeah, well,
it's it's a really good question. And first of all,
and you're not asking a question it goes in hindsight,
but I have to say, the American people were lied
to and said that we were in a twenty year war.
We endless war. We have to end this war. We
have to get out, and I think everyone really believed that,
(22:32):
But the truth is that's that's a lie, and it's
not consistent with historical successes of military strategy. In the
United States. We had twenty five hundred troops to four
thousand troops in Afghanistan, and in twenty and eighteen we
stopped participating in a conventional fight against Taliban and we
started a support in avasory role with the Afghan National
Army and Afghan National Police, and the entire international community
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was participating at Bagam Air Force based, the most strategic
place in a globe between Iraq, Iran, Russia, and China.
And for US to give that up for saying we
have to move out twenty five hundred and four thousand troops. Meanwhile,
we have eighty thousand troops in Japan and forty thousand
troops in Germany since World War Two, thirty five troops
in South Korea since World War two. These contingencies keep
(23:14):
the world safe and make us and keep us out
of future wars, and we were We didn't negotiate with
our international allies, We didn't negotiate with NATO, we didn't
negotiate with the Afghan government we put in place for
twenty years. We only negotiated with the Taliban and handed
our handed that strategic location over to the Taliban without
supporting the Afghan government we put in place, and it
created a complete collapse. So to answer your question right now,
(23:38):
it's very difficult to do the right thing because of
the situation that was created. I think the only thing
that could be done was for the that could be
done now is for the State Department to have a
clear process for SIV applicants for P one P two
visas that qualify for a pathway to citizenship based on
(23:58):
our service to America. But then you'd you're forced in
a situation now where there is no US embassy in Afghanistan,
there is no consulate for them to go to apply
for visas. They have to go to the Taliban and
basically surrendered themselves as an enemy of the state of
a Taliban and surrendered themselves in order to try to
get to America. So, you know, it's tough to answer
(24:20):
that question, book, and it's a good question, but um,
you know, we this administration has put this situation to
where it's it's almost unrecoverable. Chat. I know there's many
reasons you're doing what you are doing for the people
left behind in Afghanistan, but also as these who was
sitting with you right now saved your life. What is
(24:41):
that story? Well, I mean we you know, I was
I was very fortunate as a Portree com Maraine, I
was selected to go be part of a JASAK task
force to Joint Special Operations Command task Force. And part
of that role was working in a singleton capacity, meaning
by myself and going out ahead of my unit to
build the clandestine infrastructure to put oursalters on target to
killed bad guys. And in doing that, I was assigned
(25:03):
to a local national which was disease. He was my interpreter.
Eventually vet It trained polygraphed to become my teammate, my
sole teammate and uh and you know, through eight deployments
which we did together and to keep the continuity, he
became my friend. He saved my life multiple times. He
probably saved my life every day, like don't walk there,
don't eat that, don't talk to that person. If you
talk right now, they've got to kill us. Like he
(25:23):
saved my life every day and when we got done
operating the mountains of Afghanistan or across the board in Pakistan,
I didn't go to base and he went home. I
went home with him. His first first hot meal I'll
have those cold mountains was by his wife, Hatra. And
then I was there when my shoot at, my shoot eye,
his oldest son and daughter were born, and I held
him as babies like he's family to me. And so
to leave him there during the withdrawal was something I
(25:45):
could never have left lived with. I mean, I had
to go and help. And we put a small team
together to go, originally to just go get his ease.
And as we're putting this team together, uh, you know
most incredible special operations guys that I knew and veterans
that trusted about twelve of us, one of us pointed
out a really great good point, and that was being
a little selfish to get my friend. And there were
other people, other interpreters, American citizens, women, children, Christians that
(26:10):
be persecuted that needed help to and we made a
decision in that moment. I believe we're all pretty strong
people of faith. We believed that God was really just
burdened our hearts to do the right thing and help
these people. And we made a decision to be obedient
to that burden and say yes to go. And then
and beyond that, I believe we witnessed the divine miracle
happen in the next three days that made it possible
to not just rescue his ease and his family, but
(26:31):
seventeen thousand people. The book is Saving a zse how
the mission to help one became a calling to rescue
thousands from the Taliban. Author Chad Robus Show former Ricon
Marine Chad, we appreciate you, sir, thank you for being
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families be able to do it. It's going to be
really really important because again those are things you just
have to buy. You gotta buy the diapers, you gotta
buy these things. So that's gonna say families a lot
of money. Yeah, we may even say no tax on
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gas stoves coming up this year. We'll do that. That's
fine with me. I want you to be able to
have a choice. Governor Ronda Santisa, Florida. They're talking about
initiatives meant to help people who are trying to have families.
Probably something very important. You look at what the future
of America and every major power in the world looks
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like and understanding it's demographics, specifically related to the age
of its population, the replenishment of its populations. Stuff really matters,
and encouraging people to have families, stable family units, to
have children is a really obviously a good thing on
many levels, but it's a good thing on a civilizational level,
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you know. DeSantis also announced clay An initiative to make
protections against coercive This is from his Twitter account. Biomedical
policies permanent, including prohibiting COVID vaccine passports, prohibiting COVID vaccine
and mask requirements to attend any school, prohibiting any COVID
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mask requirement, and all discrimination based on vaccine or booster status.
Every Republican governor in America, now some Abbott has done
some things in this direction. There are others. I'm not
saying there aren't others. Every Republican governor has to do this,
and if they won't do it, they should be asked why.
Here's a fun question for you, Buck. We were talking
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earlier about the hearing that's going on regarding mask mandates,
and thank god that Florida Judge my Zelle ended this
thing in April of last year because it's been crazy.
What would stop and again, I think it's a really
kind of fascinating legal question. What would stop the State
of Florida from saying as soon as you enter Florida airspace,
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you can't be required to wear a mask on an airplane.
Really kind of interesting, right, like you would issue but
if you cross into like like I understand when you're
crossing state lines, but I don't know that it's actually
we've never had a rule like this where I don't
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know that it would win. But if you came out
and they said, hey, we're gonna bring back masks, I
would love to see Florida pass a law and say, hey,
when you cross into the free State of Florida airspace,
we are passing a law that you can't be required
to wear masks anywhere all the way up to the
sky on airplanes all the way down to beaches and
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everything else. I'm not sure how it would be handled
because I can't think of a lot of precedence buck,
but I would love to just see that argument made
in the event that the Biden administration tries to bring
back masks. So COVID vaccine requirements for private businesses not
allowed in Florida under state laws, not allowed in Texas
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under state law. Some Republican governors fought this and said
it's about big government. I don't believe that. I think
they were wrong. They should change their minds Now, there's
there's no excuse at this point for anyone to say, yeah,
I'm gonna let companies fire people because they're you know,
no Republicans should allow that to happen in their state.
Just call it discrimination, don't. I don't care what justification
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you have to find for it. Monstrous, it's wrong, and
we all know it. Take action. If you're right, then
be as aggressively right as you possibly can, which I
think is basically the brand of the Santis in Florida,
which is why I'm thinking through. Again, I'm not an
expert on federal aviation law, but just passing a law
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that when you enter Florida airspace you can't be required
to wear a mask, so that everywhere in Florida is
a free land, I think would be really interesting. Another
question for you, Buck, as this hearing is going on
in Miami. If the Biden administration wins this court case,
what do you think the chances are they bring back
masks before you know the winter is over. Basically high
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on planes, high because they want people to be continually conditioned.
First of all, it's very popular with the far left base.
If you're I know, this is crazy to people like
for those who listening to us in red states, and
we always we say Tennessee because you're there, and I'm
here in Florida, and there's Texas, but anywhere that's a
red state. You're like, what do you mean, who's still
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I'm obviously back and forth to New York a lot
you traveled on your flights to New York. Now, when
you're going back and forth between Florida and New York,
what percentage of people would you say are wearing masks? Now,
maybe it's continue to decline, it's not it's small, but noticeable,
and maybe on some flights it's more like twenty percent.
So there's a there's a crew that always has and
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they also now particularly opt for I've noticed it because
now that their own the high priests of of of
Faucism have said, you know, the cloth mask doesn't really work,
although Faucci won't really say that, but others have said it. Um,
they do the the N ninety five with the two
rubber straps. You see this a lot, one kind of
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high on the head, one lower to make it really
tight and uncomfortable. Miserable. I think they're miserable people, unfortunately. Yeah,
I think that's probably true. Yeah, but this is a
real thing that's still out there. And you know, I'm sorry,
but the dynamic became when they have the power, they
make you do all these things. But in some places
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it's even when you have Republicans or we don't want
to step in and no, no, okay, if they can
make you do it, you can make them not do it.
And that's the way that should be themality in these
free states like Florida and every other red state. I'm
thinking more through because I know a lot of the
DeSantis people listen to this show. Crossing state Lines is
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interesting I love the idea of like somebody being able
to come on the PA and say you've now entered
the free airspace of Florida. You can remove your masks
Like that would be a pretty unbelievable experience. Right. But
a lot of the flights in Florida are in state, right,
if you're in Miami and you're flying to Jacksonville, or
you're in Tampa and you're flying to Miami, whatever, if
they're in state flights. I just I love the idea
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of fighting Biden and his outlandish authoritarians on any battlefield
you can, Even if buck you might lose the legal argument,
sometimes having the fights important. And so this idea because
I agree with you. I think if the Biden administration
wins the right to put people back in masks on airplanes,
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I think there is a good chance that they try
to do it. So why not go ahead and fight
the good fight? If you are in Florida, and by
the way, not just Florida, Texas, any state, Tennessee where
I live, any state that has sound and reasonable and
and and actually scientific leadership, why would you acquiesce to
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the Biden power grab? Yeah, you got you gotta fight it.
Because there's there's also, um, I think a mentality here
among the Democrats that this training that we all had
to go through, this conditioning, that they can just say,
oh no, but this is really really important and do
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insane stuff. I mean, they did crack. They deployed National
Guard at the airport in New York to ask people
to fill out a survey about where they had traveled.
There was no tracking on this. The resident dudes on
paddle boards in the ocean, right, But this is what
I mean. They they don't want people to finally come
(35:57):
to the recognition in large enough numbers about how absurd,
idiotic and tyrannical they were, so they want to kind
of keep some of these powers in the background that
I'm telling you, they want to find an excuse to
use it. To look at all these people a Davos.
Look at John Kerry talking about where you're to save
the world. What a joke that guy is. I think
they could definitely buck because using the example, remember New
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York City was still requiring you to wear a mask
walking around in LaGuardia even after they did away with
the federal mask mandate. Yep, you could certainly I think
band masks in Florida airports. Oh yea, so maybe you
wouldn't have to put them on again until you get
on the airplane. I'm just really kind of fascinated by
the legality. He's got a lot of smart people to
advise him to Scantis. I think this is a battle,
(36:39):
given that they're fighting it in Florida right now, that
would be a good one to throw some punches in
favor of. To basically Billy antagonize the Fauci Commies with
every fiber of your being in every way you can
amen
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back again now number three Clay
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
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big stories of the past I would say decade, has
been the very rapid transition between let me live the
life that I want to live as an individual, to
which I think most people when it comes to adults
have kind of assented. Right, you can make choices in
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your adult life that I might disagree with, that you
might disagree with some of our choices that we make
in our lives. Some of you out there might disagree with.
But as adults, there's very much I would say, a
live and let live mindset that is very prominent, very common.
But along the way that hasn't been enough. It hasn't
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been enough for someone to live their lifestyle. Now there
is a demand that has become very insidious. I would say,
in our culture today, we're not only does someone have
to live their life, you have to endorse and celebrate
the choices that they are making in their life. And
this transition between mutual respect in terms of adults being
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able to make adult decisions and no, no, no no, it's
not only you have to allow me to make my choice.
You have to support and praise the fact that I
have made my choice. And that has translated into all
facets of society. And that is the background for what
happened last night in Philadelphia. The Flyers are the NHL team,
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the professional hockey team in the city of Philadelphia. They
had a pride night, which has become very very common
in the world of sports, and as part of that,
you are not only required to acknowledge that people can
choose who they want to love, you're also now required
to celebrate their life choices. It's a big growth in
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the expectation, and what happened last night was a Russian
hockey player by the name of Ivan Prokarov decided, even
though he played for the Philadelphia Flyers, he was not
willing to put on a gay Pride jersey as a
part of their festivities last night in Philadelphia. And this
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has turned into a big story as he is being
ripped to shreds by many different woke sports media out there.
But he said it was simply a matter of his
Russian Orthodox faith. Listen to this when he was asked
about it immediately after the game. I respect everybody. My
choice is to stay through to myself and my religion.
That's all I'm gonna say. So he's now getting lambasted,
(03:28):
as you can well imagine Buck for his decision not
to wear a gay Pride jersey. This comes on the
heels of a several Tampa Bay Rays players, if I
remember in Major League Baseball also saying hey, yeah, you
know what, we'd prefer not to wear the gay Pride jerseys.
There's a big difference between allowing people to make their
own choice, Buck, and demanding that you celebrate their choice.
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And that is a distinction that has been lost in
many ways. It starts out with let's all just let's
all just accept let's all just be accepting, let's let's
just be cool to each other, and it's about decency
and everything, and that appeals to good people, and people say, yeah,
of course, I want to be accepting and I want
everyone to feel good and I'm not here to make
anyone feel bad, and so sure we can let's be
accepting or let's be tolerant. Usually it starts with tolerance,
(04:11):
and then they'll start saying, well, you really got to
accept this, and then it's actually you have to celebrate this. Yeah,
And that's the way the left has looked at the
slope is slippery. This is the way they've operated on
many things in the social issues realm. And I just
think it's it's interesting to me that the the NHL
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who's making this decision at the NH question, I like,
I really don't know. I mean, I figure you would
have a better idea. I'm sitting here thinking, is the
NHL audience demanding this anyway? You know? The NHL tweeted
out recently and we wrote about this at OutKick trans
Women or real Women, but kind of out of nowhere
because I'm looking around, I'm thinking, like, the average NHL
(04:56):
fan is a and again I'm stereotyping, but is a
Midwestern beer drinking uh, cold weather loving Uh kind of
beefy dude, right. I mean if if I were like,
if you were like, hey, what's the average NHL fan
look like, I'd be like, he's probably forty nine years old,
(05:16):
weighs forty pounds more than he should, loves beer, and
likes watching guys fight. General, like, yeah, not a lot
of pronoun pronouns in the in the bio or not
a lot of pronouns in the bios. Not a lot
of big mask wears. Not a lot of people out
there that are saying trans women can get pregnant, uh,
men can get preyed. There's not a lot of that
(05:38):
out there. And so it's a fabulous question because this
also ties in in the state of Florida. The NHL
had a job fair. I'm sure you saw this buck
in South Florida where they specifically said white men aren't
welcome at this job fair, and then Ron DeSantis clapped
back on it and they back down. But when you
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consider that the HL is saying transwomen or women that
they're doing LBGTQ whatever. The additional letter is Pride Knights,
and it's considered now unacceptable. One of the ESPN reporters
Buck came out and said, well, this is really unacceptable
because this same defenseman was willing to wear a military
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support jersey. And I'm like, well, that's totally different, right,
Like you could support the military and also you know,
be willing to say hey, thank you for everybody out
there who's who's fighting for the country. The fact that
you would even equate that with a gay Pride jersey
is to me quite a bit different. But yeah, I
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think it's a great example of alienating the base audience
that you have that supports your product that in no
way is woke at all. In fact, they despise this
stuff generally speaking. And have they done this in other leagues?
Yoh yeah. Has Major League Baseball has done it because
they had a controversy because a couple of Rays play
refuse to wear the jerseys. I don't think the NFL
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has done it to my knowledge, on the jersey itself,
but it's definitely spreading. I'm sure the NBA has done
it because if you can do something woke. The NBA
has done it in an incredibly woke degree. But this
is where one of these things where the athletes and
buck the sports media are not in alignment here. And
(07:27):
I think you saw this with Damar Hamlin with the
extreme religious response from players joining at midfield to pray
things like that. That's not the same dynamic that would
exist in the press box. The average member of the
sports media is not praying before a football game. It's
very common though, among the players and coaches themselves. I
mean kind of just note, you know, being told that
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you have to support anything, I find you annoying. Like
if I yeah, for example, you know, I voted for
Trump twice. I think Trump did a great job. If
someone said, well, you have to you're not allowed to
be at this rally unless you're wearing a MAGA hat
for example, right, just put this out there. Nothing against
Maga hats, but I don't want to be told that
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I have to do that, right, And that's for something
that I totally support. I just think that the notion
that people should have to um, you know, in an area,
especially if you're a hockey players, there's nothing to do
with playing hockey. I don't think you should be forced
to support any political cause because it sets this president
or any cause, you know, period. I just I don't
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really understand why anybody would think that wouldn't lead to
lead to trouble. I mean because if you let me
kind of take it to the next level, if you
can be told you have to wear it was a
it was a gay Pride jersey? Was that the gay Pride?
I don't even know the story Clay told me about this,
the story gay Pride Jersey. Why can't you be told
you have to wear a BLM jersey? Yeah, I don't.
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I don't know why you wouldn't be You couldn't be
told you don't have to wear a BLM jersey if
you're gonna play a play hockey. You know, hockey is
not diverse enough time to put on the BLM jerseys, right,
That's you could see how that would happen very easily.
So I just think that this is a bad precedent
to set. Well, it's bullying basically because you're telling somebody, hey,
you have to accept And again, there's a big difference
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between accepting like you have the right to make a
choice and you should have a right to make a
choice about whether you want to celebrate something or not.
And I just think it's becoming a we've shifted from
the acceptance to celebrate it really really rapidly out there.
And you know, I understand the point of things that
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are blandly inoffensive. Right, So if you choose that you
want to wear pink cleats because you're fighting breast cancer
in the NFL, I don't think there's any problem with that, right.
Players sometimes wear pink cleats or pink you know, arm
sleeves or whatever else on their uniform. But if you
mandated that everybody had to do anything that has nothing
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to do with their job itself, I think your analogy
of wearing them AGA hat even if you support Trump
is well taken because the idea that you would have
a requirement as to what you're gonna wear based on
your political beliefs, it's really it's really becoming I'm the
present and you look at it with the Ukraine flag,
(10:17):
with the bios, with the him, her and the pronoun
the email signatures, like it's really kind of crazy. Yeah.
I mean I don't want to be unless it's a
wedding or a funeral, or I'm in the White House.
I don't want to be told to wear a jacket
and tie. So I definitely don't want to be told
that I have to wear something that has some kind
of political or cause or any other affiliation. I bet
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a huge percentage of our audience buck has felt pressure
to change their email signature if you have an email
address at work, to have your preferred pronouns in it.
I remember the first time I saw preferred pronouns anywhere.
It was actually at Vanderbilt University and where I went
to law school. And this was years after that, but
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I remember seeing somebody with a name tag and they
had their pronouns on and this is probably a decade ago,
and I thought, this is the dumbest thing that I
have ever seen in my life. And now almost every
corporation has got the signature line where you can put
your pronouns in it, and if you don't, I've gotten
tons of emails. I bet you have two buck from
(11:21):
people who say, hey, my spouse or my company is
requiring this or whatever it is. And if you don't
celebrate and comply, as if sharing your pronouns as a
normal thing, there are consequences at work. What do you
think will happen if you if you for for most
people who work in some realm of corporate America. You know,
(11:41):
if you work at a corporate law firm in New
York or you're at one of those big management agencies
out in LA. Do you think you could do you
think anybody would challenge you if you put one of
the you know how they have these new pronouns now too,
Like my pronouns are like you know z as an
X And do you think that HR would want to
(12:02):
go down that path and try to mess with you
or would they just have to respect it? You know,
if my pronouns were like Z and you know Z noon,
you know zem. I mean I think that there was
a great case from a college campus, and I remember
who the kid was, but he said that, you know,
you got to choose how you were addressed, and he
said that he wanted to be addressed as his majesty
every time that he was called on in class, and
(12:23):
that those were his preferred, you know, choice terms. And
it turned into a huge controversy because there's like, well,
you're mocking the process by which we call on people.
They said, no, no, the idea that you have preferred
pronouns is the mockery. I'm just pointing out the absurdity
of it by choosing a signifier to identify myself in class,
(12:44):
and it actually is really funny. So you know, if
you start to make up the idea of choosing your
pronouns to me gets really funny because it does lend
itself naturally to well, I get to choose my adjectives,
so I can't be referred to an any article unless
you say the incredibly brilliant and handsome Clay Travis, Like, No,
you don't get to choose how people define you. And
(13:07):
yet that's effectively what we're being told exactly what they're
doing all the time. The pronoun. I always say this
to people. The pronoun thing is not minor. It's not
about politeness. That's not why they care so much. They
actually use the desire to be polite as a weapon
against people of reason, sense and rationality. And they can't
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play the game of it's no big deal, just do it.
If you don't do it, it's a huge deal. That's
that's exactly what they try to do all the time.
Why are you so focused on this? They say? And
you say, why are you Yeah, I've been proverb is
just like, yeah, you know, I'm just not that into it.
I'm gonna choose not to do it. And they're like,
what do you. It reminds me again, I think we've
(13:48):
played this audio before of the old school Seinfeld episode
where Kraman does Kramer doesn't want to wear the aidspen
and not will not wear the ribbon, right that's right, yes, yeah,
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They were claiming it as an exclusive at nine am
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Trump has access to Twitter already should he choose to
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have a campaign he's formerly a candidate, is petitioning Facebook
to unblock his Facebook account. Look, I think Facebook having
(16:23):
first of all, obviously I think they should do it,
but I think Facebook kind of has to do it,
which has been my point all along about Twitter that
on some of these issues, once one breaks, the damn,
others are going to have to follow. And I will say, man, look,
people have different views on whether it's good or bad
for him politically, and I and on both, and I'm
(16:44):
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lot of fun. It was good times. I think it's
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will give us great fodder for the show because he'll
be tweeting during the show and everything else. I think
it's the worst thing possible for his campaign in terms
of actually being able to get elected. In twenty four
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can say, Okay, I love the fact that it drives
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(17:26):
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Welcome back in Clay, Tarravis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through
the Wednesday edition of the program. We're joined now by
a Robus Show former Force recon marine and a zz
An interpreter. He rescued from Afghanistan, inspiring a new book,
saving azse how the mission to help one became a
calling to rescue thousands from the Taliban. Also, Save Our
(19:15):
Allies has been founded by Chad, a nonprofit that evacuated
seventeen thousand people from Afghanistan, currently operates in Ukraine as well.
Chad and Azse are in our New York City studio
right now. We appreciate you guys being here, and Chad,
I will start with you. Many people I think have
(19:37):
forgotten about the chaos that came with our evacuation from Afghanistan.
But since we left there, there are reports that thousands
of people who have connections to America, who worked for
American soldiers are still stuck behind in Afghanistan. What have
you seen and what can you tell us about the
situation on the ground in Afghanistan right now? Yeah, Unfortunately,
(20:01):
I don't believe this is not by accident that this
has been um not just forgotten, but swept under the rug,
and the mainstream media has really been reluctant to report
on it. And I think the White House sustend everything
they could to hide this, uh this story. We still
have seventy five thousand of our of our interpreters that
are qualified for SIV special immigrant visa UH program and
not only qualified, but we're promised by our government for
(20:23):
their service to us for twenty years, they're still in
Afghanistan as well as other lilypad countries around the world.
In addition to that, we have their family members in
each of them or vulnerable. You're talking about three hundred
thousand people that have uh served the American effort in Afghanistan,
and all of them vulnerable. They're being systematically hunted down,
pulled out of their homes at night, beaten to tortured,
(20:45):
killed and executed for their for their service to our country.
And uh, you know, we we have a state department
just refusing to acknowledge it, to do the right thing
and uh and it's still happening every day. And meanwhile, uh,
you know, we have forty million Afghan residents, twenty million
women that are being sexually enslaved dealing with you know
Syria law, not the Taliban two point hole, but the
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same old brutal uh you know desh Christ that they
are who are who are marrying off nine year old
girls and eleven year old girls for a few hundred bucks,
taking advantage of the starving their people to make them desperate.
Who is just last week took away women's medical rights
by saying that women are allowed to see male doctors,
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but they're not allowed to be doctors and allowed to
be educated. And so the whole thing is just terrible,
and the fact that the White House has done such
an effective job of making us go away as is
more the reason of why I want this bookout saving
is ease, so people know the truth. Hey, Chad, it's buck.
Really appreciate you joining us and thank you for your service.
Sir um, what would you like to see the Biden
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administration do? I mean if you could get a sit
down with Biden and you know, top national security apparatus folks,
what do you think is is the path forward if
they were to get serious and engage on this issue
and keep the word of the American government that was
given to those who were helping people like you who
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were serving our country in uniform in Afghanistan. Yeah, well,
it's it's a really good question. And first of all,
and you're not asking a question it goes in hindsight,
but I have to say, the American people were lied
to and said that we were in a twenty year war.
We endless war. We have to end this war. We
have to get out, and I think everyone really believed that,
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But the truth is that's that's a lie, and it's
not consistent with historical successes of military strategy. In the
United States. We had twenty five hundred troops to four
thousand troops in Afghanistan, and in twenty and eighteen we
stopped participating in a conventional fight against Taliban and we
started a support in avasory role with the Afghan National
Army and Afghan National Police, and the entire international community
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was participating at Bagam Air Force based, the most strategic
place in a globe between Iraq, Iran, Russia, and China.
And for US to give that up for saying we
have to move out twenty five hundred and four thousand troops. Meanwhile,
we have eighty thousand troops in Japan and forty thousand
troops in Germany since World War Two, thirty five troops
in South Korea since World War two. These contingencies keep
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the world safe and make us and keep us out
of future wars, and we were We didn't negotiate with
our international allies, We didn't negotiate with NATO, we didn't
negotiate with the Afghan government we put in place for
twenty years. We only negotiated with the Taliban and handed
our handed that strategic location over to the Taliban without
supporting the Afghan government we put in place, and it
created a complete collapse. So to answer your question right now,
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it's very difficult to do the right thing because of
the situation that was created. I think the only thing
that could be done was for the that could be
done now is for the State Department to have a
clear process for SIV applicants for P one P two
visas that qualify for a pathway to citizenship based on
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our service to America. But then you'd you're forced in
a situation now where there is no US embassy in Afghanistan,
there is no consulate for them to go to apply
for visas. They have to go to the Taliban and
basically surrendered themselves as an enemy of the state of
a Taliban and surrendered themselves in order to try to
get to America. So, you know, it's tough to answer
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that question, book, and it's a good question, but um,
you know, we this administration has put this situation to
where it's it's almost unrecoverable. Chat. I know there's many
reasons you're doing what you are doing for the people
left behind in Afghanistan, but also as these who was
sitting with you right now saved your life. What is
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that story? Well, I mean we you know, I was
I was very fortunate as a Portree com Maraine, I
was selected to go be part of a JASAK task
force to Joint Special Operations Command task Force. And part
of that role was working in a singleton capacity, meaning
by myself and going out ahead of my unit to
build the clandestine infrastructure to put oursalters on target to
killed bad guys. And in doing that, I was assigned
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to a local national which was disease. He was my interpreter.
Eventually vet It trained polygraphed to become my teammate, my
sole teammate and uh and you know, through eight deployments
which we did together and to keep the continuity, he
became my friend. He saved my life multiple times. He
probably saved my life every day, like don't walk there,
don't eat that, don't talk to that person. If you
talk right now, they've got to kill us. Like he
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saved my life every day and when we got done
operating the mountains of Afghanistan or across the board in Pakistan,
I didn't go to base and he went home. I
went home with him. His first first hot meal I'll
have those cold mountains was by his wife, Hatra. And
then I was there when my shoot at, my shoot eye,
his oldest son and daughter were born, and I held
him as babies like he's family to me. And so
to leave him there during the withdrawal was something I
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could never have left lived with. I mean, I had
to go and help. And we put a small team
together to go, originally to just go get his ease.
And as we're putting this team together, uh, you know
most incredible special operations guys that I knew and veterans
that trusted about twelve of us, one of us pointed
out a really great good point, and that was being
a little selfish to get my friend. And there were
other people, other interpreters, American citizens, women, children, Christians that
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be persecuted that needed help to and we made a
decision in that moment. I believe we're all pretty strong
people of faith. We believed that God was really just
burdened our hearts to do the right thing and help
these people. And we made a decision to be obedient
to that burden and say yes to go. And then
and beyond that, I believe we witnessed the divine miracle
happen in the next three days that made it possible
to not just rescue his ease and his family, but
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seventeen thousand people. The book is Saving a zse how
the mission to help one became a calling to rescue
thousands from the Taliban. Author Chad Robus Show former Ricon
Marine Chad, we appreciate you, sir, thank you for being
with us, absolutely thanks to his ease as well. Appreciate
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none of that stuff gonna be too late for me
and my and my wife and our kids they're getting
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families be able to do it. It's going to be
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gas stoves coming up this year. We'll do that. That's
fine with me. I want you to be able to
have a choice. Governor Ronda Santisa, Florida. They're talking about
initiatives meant to help people who are trying to have families.
Probably something very important. You look at what the future
of America and every major power in the world looks
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like and understanding it's demographics, specifically related to the age
of its population, the replenishment of its populations. Stuff really matters,
and encouraging people to have families, stable family units, to
have children is a really obviously a good thing on
many levels, but it's a good thing on a civilizational level,
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you know. DeSantis also announced clay An initiative to make
protections against coercive This is from his Twitter account. Biomedical
policies permanent, including prohibiting COVID vaccine passports, prohibiting COVID vaccine
and mask requirements to attend any school, prohibiting any COVID
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mask requirement, and all discrimination based on vaccine or booster status.
Every Republican governor in America, now some Abbott has done
some things in this direction. There are others. I'm not
saying there aren't others. Every Republican governor has to do this,
and if they won't do it, they should be asked why.
Here's a fun question for you, Buck. We were talking
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earlier about the hearing that's going on regarding mask mandates,
and thank god that Florida Judge my Zelle ended this
thing in April of last year because it's been crazy.
What would stop and again, I think it's a really
kind of fascinating legal question. What would stop the State
of Florida from saying as soon as you enter Florida airspace,
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you can't be required to wear a mask on an airplane.
Really kind of interesting, right, like you would issue but
if you cross into like like I understand when you're
crossing state lines, but I don't know that it's actually
we've never had a rule like this where I don't
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know that it would win. But if you came out
and they said, hey, we're gonna bring back masks, I
would love to see Florida pass a law and say, hey,
when you cross into the free State of Florida airspace,
we are passing a law that you can't be required
to wear masks anywhere all the way up to the
sky on airplanes all the way down to beaches and
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everything else. I'm not sure how it would be handled
because I can't think of a lot of precedence buck,
but I would love to just see that argument made
in the event that the Biden administration tries to bring
back masks. So COVID vaccine requirements for private businesses not
allowed in Florida under state laws, not allowed in Texas
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under state law. Some Republican governors fought this and said
it's about big government. I don't believe that. I think
they were wrong. They should change their minds Now, there's
there's no excuse at this point for anyone to say, yeah,
I'm gonna let companies fire people because they're you know,
no Republicans should allow that to happen in their state.
Just call it discrimination, don't. I don't care what justification
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you have to find for it. Monstrous, it's wrong, and
we all know it. Take action. If you're right, then
be as aggressively right as you possibly can, which I
think is basically the brand of the Santis in Florida,
which is why I'm thinking through. Again, I'm not an
expert on federal aviation law, but just passing a law
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that when you enter Florida airspace you can't be required
to wear a mask, so that everywhere in Florida is
a free land, I think would be really interesting. Another
question for you, Buck, as this hearing is going on
in Miami. If the Biden administration wins this court case,
what do you think the chances are they bring back
masks before you know the winter is over. Basically high
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on planes, high because they want people to be continually conditioned.
First of all, it's very popular with the far left base.
If you're I know, this is crazy to people like
for those who listening to us in red states, and
we always we say Tennessee because you're there, and I'm
here in Florida, and there's Texas, but anywhere that's a
red state. You're like, what do you mean, who's still
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I'm obviously back and forth to New York a lot
you traveled on your flights to New York. Now, when
you're going back and forth between Florida and New York,
what percentage of people would you say are wearing masks? Now,
maybe it's continue to decline, it's not it's small, but noticeable,
and maybe on some flights it's more like twenty percent.
So there's a there's a crew that always has and
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they also now particularly opt for I've noticed it because
now that their own the high priests of of of
Faucism have said, you know, the cloth mask doesn't really work,
although Faucci won't really say that, but others have said it. Um,
they do the the N ninety five with the two
rubber straps. You see this a lot, one kind of
(33:29):
high on the head, one lower to make it really
tight and uncomfortable. Miserable. I think they're miserable people, unfortunately. Yeah,
I think that's probably true. Yeah, but this is a
real thing that's still out there. And you know, I'm sorry,
but the dynamic became when they have the power, they
make you do all these things. But in some places
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it's even when you have Republicans or we don't want
to step in and no, no, okay, if they can
make you do it, you can make them not do it.
And that's the way that should be themality in these
free states like Florida and every other red state. I'm
thinking more through because I know a lot of the
DeSantis people listen to this show. Crossing state Lines is
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interesting I love the idea of like somebody being able
to come on the PA and say you've now entered
the free airspace of Florida. You can remove your masks
Like that would be a pretty unbelievable experience. Right. But
a lot of the flights in Florida are in state, right,
if you're in Miami and you're flying to Jacksonville, or
you're in Tampa and you're flying to Miami, whatever, if
they're in state flights. I just I love the idea
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of fighting Biden and his outlandish authoritarians on any battlefield
you can, Even if buck you might lose the legal argument,
sometimes having the fights important. And so this idea because
I agree with you. I think if the Biden administration
wins the right to put people back in masks on airplanes,
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I think there is a good chance that they try
to do it. So why not go ahead and fight
the good fight? If you are in Florida, and by
the way, not just Florida, Texas, any state, Tennessee where
I live, any state that has sound and reasonable and
and and actually scientific leadership, why would you acquiesce to
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the Biden power grab? Yeah, you got you gotta fight it.
Because there's there's also, um, I think a mentality here
among the Democrats that this training that we all had
to go through, this conditioning, that they can just say,
oh no, but this is really really important and do
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insane stuff. I mean, they did crack. They deployed National
Guard at the airport in New York to ask people
to fill out a survey about where they had traveled.
There was no tracking on this. The resident dudes on
paddle boards in the ocean, right, But this is what
I mean. They they don't want people to finally come
(35:57):
to the recognition in large enough numbers about how absurd,
idiotic and tyrannical they were, so they want to kind
of keep some of these powers in the background that
I'm telling you, they want to find an excuse to
use it. To look at all these people a Davos.
Look at John Kerry talking about where you're to save
the world. What a joke that guy is. I think
they could definitely buck because using the example, remember New
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York City was still requiring you to wear a mask
walking around in LaGuardia even after they did away with
the federal mask mandate. Yep, you could certainly I think
band masks in Florida airports. Oh yea, so maybe you
wouldn't have to put them on again until you get
on the airplane. I'm just really kind of fascinated by
the legality. He's got a lot of smart people to
advise him to Scantis. I think this is a battle,
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given that they're fighting it in Florida right now, that
would be a good one to throw some punches in
favor of. To basically Billy antagonize the Fauci Commies with
every fiber of your being in every way you can
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