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March 18, 2023 36 mins
Wellesley College can't answer the question: What is a woman? Drew Barrymore kneels before Biden's favorite transgender. Pentagon briefing on Russian plane collision with U.S. drone. Defense Secretary Austin says the war is about the "rules-based international order." Buck takes calls from military pilots and reads VIP emails.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of Clay in Bucks
starts right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us.
Clay on vacation in Italy. I believe he's in Roma
right now, so our thoughts are with him and his
family as they are eating some delicious pizza, which we,

(00:24):
of course in this country call pizza and uh yeah,
he's having a good time. So we have some updates
here on the financial financial front for you just to
keep an eye on all this, because the biggest story
in the country, and in fact the biggest story in
the world right now, is the oh rickety unsecure, swaying

(00:50):
back and forth structure of our banks at this point
in time, right it's not looking good. It's not looking
like this is going to head into a healthy direction.
I thought it was interesting Kevin O'Leary of Shark Tank,
we played some sound bites from him yesterday. I know

(01:10):
he was on Sean Show last night and Kevin O'Leary
had billions of his of dollars of companies he's involved
with in Silicon Valley Bank. But to his credit, he's like, look, yeah,
I got money there. I got money all over the place.
A lot of people have been hit by this. When
you're talking about two hundred billion dollars of deposits that

(01:31):
covers a broad swath of territory. I mentioned to you
the massive Swiss bank credit Suits, which is pleading now
with the Swiss Central Bank for support. Shares of credit
Suits have gone down thirty percent. Also Moody's and the

(01:52):
SMP jumping in with different cuts to the status downgrades
I should say, to the status of bonds of some
of these banks. First Republic Bank for example now at
junks status and the big four banks are in a
difficult spot for right now. Not not a perilous spot,

(02:13):
but there there's stocks a little bit down today. Let's
I don't want to overstate anything here, but the stocks
are so people are worried. Obviously, people are concerned, and
I think what you're really going to have to look
for is the rate hike going up, the hiking rates
the next time around. If they do that, I think

(02:35):
you got to assume we're heading into a recession. Probably.
If they don't do that, well, then we're just gonna
keep having inflation continue to eat away at your savings
and make everything more expensive, and there is no good
option here, and that actually makes sense. And I think
that's the part of this that's so hard. This is

(02:57):
the cause and effect portion of our monetary policy and
our national financial reality, that if you spend too much money,
you will create inflation. And then if you spend too
much money and try to bring inflation down by bringing
interest rates up, you will have a reduction in the

(03:18):
money supply and economic activity and a likely recession. They
keep saying, well, if we do it the right way,
if we just do it just enough, it's going to
be perfect. There are a lot of assumptions built into that.
And I think given that we just saw a bank
run and some bank failures that seemingly came out of nowhere,
they didn't. Of course, they were growing for a long time,

(03:40):
but we certainly weren't hearing about it. You got to
be prepared for what they say, expect the unexpected in
the financial world, or Rumsfeldian unknown unknowns. Rumsfeld was quite
a character back in this day, very smart, very impressive guy.
Rack War didn't turn out the way it was posted,

(04:00):
but Rumswell was an interesting fellow. Now I'd mentioned to
you switching gears here. I just want to keep I'm
keeping an eye on the financial realities, and I'm also
reaching out. I mean, I've got We've got a couple
of We've got a couple of MBAs in my family.
We got a banker in my family. I mean, I
got a lot of people that I can tap for

(04:20):
their knowledge of how these systems work. And then all
what I was graduating from college, the two jobs that
everybody went into, at least out of my school. I
went to Amherst up in Massachusetts, which, yes, is one
of these places that has woke and has completely lost
its mind if it ever had a mind to lose

(04:41):
even when I was there. But Amherst and many other schools,
everybody went into investment banking or management consulting. That was
I went into the CIA different path, But investment banking,
management consulting, those are the two things that people wanted
to do. And I do think that a lot of

(05:02):
that world has changed dramatically in the past twenty years
such that well, anyway, I try to encourage people to
do things that they at least would like to do.
You want to find that sweet spot for anyone who's
listening who's still figuring out what their career might be,
or if you've got kids who are going to be
thinking about this soon. You want to find something that

(05:23):
you are both interested in. Not that you it's a job, right,
it's not. You're not going to pay to get a BackRub.
There's gonna be work, there's gonna be frustration, there's gonna
be time, there's gonna be a lot of stuff you
have to give to it. But something you are interested
in and that you can be compensated enough for your

(05:44):
lifestyle choice. That's what I try to tell people. So
you have to be you have to be willing to
do it a lot and grow your skill set within it,
which requires interest. Otherwise you're just going to burn out
and lose your mind and be miserable, and nobody wants that.
But you also want to make sure you know, you
know what the upside of it could be financially. Now,

(06:06):
that does not everybody has to be a banker or
investment banker trying to be a millionaire. Obviously people are
finding out maybe we have too many of those anyway.
But you know, if you're if you're gonna be a
if you're gonna be a guidance counselor you're not gonna
make a million dollars a year, which is fine, but
you just got to know these things when you go
into it, right, you've got to understand what role you're taking. Anyway,

(06:27):
speaking of colleges, Wellesley College, Wellesley College, Hillary Clinton's Almamona,
I'm trying to think who else, who else? There's all
these schools of famous people who didn't matel Did mattel
An Albright go to Wellesley? I want to say that's
maybe I'm just making that up. I'm just going by
memory here, folks three hours Alive Radio. You've got to

(06:48):
come up with a lot of stuff on the fly.
But Wellesley College is in the midst of a very
interesting debate. It's a women's college, right, very straightforward. You
could only go there if you're a woman. I went
to college down the street from down the street, roughly

(07:08):
speaking a few maybe you know, seven miles and twelve
miles respectively or something away from Smith and Holio Colleges,
which are also women's colleges. I believe they're called the
Seven Sister Schools, but that that maybe I may be
mixing some of them up. So Wellesley has a problem

(07:30):
on a chance because women who make up the student body.
Oh by the way, I'm right, yeah, Madeline Albright team,
did you already know that I nailed that one. I
don't know why I second guessed myself when it comes
to random trivia on the fly, I'm pretty solid. So
Wellesley College has had a referendum. It is non binding,

(07:52):
but students have called for the women's college to be
open to all non binary and trans gender applicants, including
trans men. So you are now going to have, assuming
the university or the college in this case allows this,

(08:14):
you're going to have biological males attending a women's college.
Now I do wonder what the realm, what the rules
and regulations for this are going to be, Like, how
would they even judge? As they say, it's if you

(08:35):
have been there some verbiage in here that says if
you live your life as a woman, then you qualify basically,
oh sorry, consistently identify as a woman is the term
of art I think they have used here. But the
the president, Paula Johnson, is getting some pushbacks. She says

(08:58):
that Wellesley was found that the then radical idea that
educating women of all social economic backgrounds leads to progress
for everyone. As a college and community, we continue to
challenge the norms and power structures that too often leave
women and others of marginalized identities behind. The students entirely disagree.
They are all freaking out, and they are saying that

(09:23):
we need to include trans men, right trans trans or
no trans women, sorry trans women. Men who are now
identifying as women. You know, I gotta tell you, if
I were a woman, and I'm not and I do
not identify as one, if I were a woman, I

(09:43):
would find this all so offensive, honestly, And I guess
at some level for men, the notion that a man,
that a trans man would be able to sit down
across from me and give me a lecture on manhood
that I would listen to, that I would. I would

(10:03):
want to hear her lived experience about being a man
for I don't know, six months, three months, whatever it is,
as women have been subjected to as you've seen recently.
I mean, there's this video that's circularly everywhere of Drew Barrymore,
who has a daytime TV show which I I didn't
know it was possible to have a lower IQ show

(10:24):
than the view. But there is a Drew Barrymore daytime
TV show, and and she's kneeling and hugging the transwoman
who went to the White House and Biden sat down
with and the trans woman who was lecturing women on womanhood. Basically,
you're saying, you know this is let me tell you
all about my womanhood as a guy. It's just this.

(10:48):
Every guy, every guy that I know, without exception, would
just think it was absurd, to the point if they wouldn't,
it wouldn't even connect. They wouldn't even pay attention. If
a transgender man, a biological female sat down, you know,
cut her hair short, wara were like a you know,
a plaid shirt. You know it's a little big, and

(11:10):
started telling the guys about what it is to be
a man. Look, if people want to dress however, they
want to cut their hair, that's all fine, no problem
with that, of course. But the notion that we're supposed
to see the superficialities of style choice as somehow indicative
of the innate and immutable characteristic of one's gender, what

(11:33):
sex you are, is crazy. You can sit any woman
in the world down across from a man and doesn't
matter what she identifies as the guy is going to
sit there and be like, I'm I'm not listening to Well,
a normal man of reasonable mind and testosterone levels would
sit there and say, I'm not going to listen to this.

(11:53):
But women are being told now that it's almost as
though they have something to learn from the trans women
who have been women for like a few minutes or
a few months or whatever. I just find it. I
find it on behalf of women. I wanted to be offended.
I guess I can't do that because I'm not a woman,
but I would find it just so. Oh so someone

(12:16):
speaks in a high sort of a high voice, grows
their hair long, maybe has breast implants put in, and
puts a lot of makeup on their face, and now
they understand what it is to be a woman. That's
because they say, so, this is where we are. I
would be fascinated to be in these Wellesley classrooms where

(12:36):
these trans male students are being or I think they're
already being admitted. I can't even keep up. I think
if you're like nonsis gender, it's the stuff is difficult,
I know, or you speak in circles about it because
it runs in circles. The whole thing is absurd. But yes,
we are at the stage now where women's colleges are

(12:56):
admitting men under the idea that they're actually women. And
this is what is happening. Whether it's official at Wellesley
yet or not, or whether it's just this gender non
binary or actually trans or whatever, that is where we are.
I bring this up well for a lot of reasons,
but it reminds me what we're talking about the last
hour with Vermont and this school system and competing against men,

(13:23):
and I would just say, you know, women having to
compete against men. They keep telling you that this isn't
the plan, and it absolutely is. They're lying to you.
This is their agenda that we are reacting to. They're
the ones that have picked this fight, so we are
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(14:50):
to open up lines to current or former military listening
to this right now, because the Pentagon is brief being
as we're speaking to you, on the Russian jet hitting
and bringing down that US Reaper drone and it has
turned into General Mark Milly, the Chairman of the Joint

(15:12):
Chiefs of Staff, and Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense,
just just talking about the blank check for Ukraine. I mean,
we got to get them more, more stuff, faster, more stuff, faster.
That is all I ever hear from DC, the Pentagon,
the brass the White House. They're never remember. In the beginning,

(15:36):
there was and this was the same by deministration. In
the beginning, there was, Hey, I don't know, we shouldn't
you know, we shouldn't give them planes no fly zone.
That can get messy. But that was the only place
that I could see. So far there has been a
line drawn other than we're not going to just have
US US military act killing Russian forces, open conflict, declaration

(16:05):
of war with Russia. Yeah, okay, everyone so far has
agreed that we shouldn't do that. But should we do this?
I just feel like we had twenty years of war
in the Middle East and South Asia, and we've had
millions of veterans go through those conflicts. I think I

(16:27):
think it's something like three million Americans, two to three
million Americans in that range I believe went down range
in Iraq, Afghanistan and other GWAT hot spots, you know,
Global War on Terror hot spots, and we couldn't you know,
Donald Trump somehow kept us from starting or getting involved
in any new wars for four years. Now we're here

(16:49):
and we're getting drawn deeper and deeper into the biggest
conflict in Europe since World War Two, A modern a
modern war with military terri's that are you know, losing
large numbers of soldiers and there seems to be no
end in sight. And right now, in General Millie is

(17:11):
saying that Russian troops are demoralized and untrained. Okay, you know,
and I'm I'm not saying that's on true. You know,
he has a lot more access and stuff than I.
It used to be more interesting when I talked about Afphetiss.
I saw everything that the generals saw, etc. I mean,
I was it's a whole story about that. I could
maybe tell another time, but I for a period of time,
I was seeing all the country level assessments, everything at

(17:34):
the top secret level and all this stuff. And I
gotta tell you, I would just want to ask General
Millie right now, Okay, so are we saying that Russia
is going to lose because you're leading us to believe
that Russia is about to lose this thing. It's just
a matter of when, and it's months away, not years away.
If it is years away, be honest with the American

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(19:01):
being told right now by Lloyd Austin, the Secretary Defense.
He just said it moments ago. Is about the rules
based international order. Oh okay, I can tell you what.
I want to go and fight in Ukraine to protect

(19:21):
the rules based international order. I don't think. So what
do we do about China just breaking its agreements with
Hong Kong and violating the rules based international order by
effectively consuming whatever freedom's Hong Kong had and ending them.

(19:42):
We knew very much. There are a lot of things
where we don't do very much because it's a big
world out there, and the Pentagon is still going through
this briefing and it's here's what we know. We had
a SU twenty seven Russian fighter jet that Colli I
did with an m Q nine Reaper drone, a US

(20:02):
drone surveillance drone in international water over the Black Sea,
and the Russians are saying it's our fault. We're saying
it's their fault. There's also reporting that there was a
fuel dump, So planes obviously can drop fuel mid air
if they want to get lighter or whatever. The pilots
and the audience can fill in more on that, and

(20:25):
they say that they dumped fuel on the drone. Then
that brought it down, and the drone is downed in
the Black Sea, and we are trying to recover it
right now. Because of the technology involved, and obviously the
US investment, these drones cost many, many millions of dollars,
so there was this was an act of aggression. The

(20:48):
Russians had to know that this was ours, and they
decided to They decided to mess with our with our drone.
The SG twenty seven was able to land, and the
Russian Defense Ministry, by the way, saying that the US
drone was flying near the Russian border, intruded in an
area that the Russians declared off limits, scrambled fighters to

(21:12):
intercept the drone. Claim that it's not look, you know,
this is where we get in the back and forth. Obviously,
I'm as team America as anybody's ever going to get
and I'll say that, and I'll fight it and fight
on that issue until my dying breath. But you know,
not everything the government tells us is entirely true. So
I do want to look and see what the possibilities
are here. You know, I don't know who blew up

(21:32):
the Russian pipeline. It wasn't the Russians, folks. It wasn't
the Russians that much. We know that was a while ago,
remember that one. Unless the Russians like to make themselves
more poor for some reason when they have basically their
entire economy hinging on whether they can get enough fossil
fuel to market. So I'm just looking at this and
I'm trying to come up with where this is all

(21:54):
supposed to go. I mean, what are we really going
to do? You know, Lindsey Graham's out there saying that
there's be accountability. Okay, what does that look like? We've
sanctioned Russia globally? We are giving the Russians, opponents, the
Ukrainians all, I mean, basically, whatever we can give them
that will help them right now, short of a no

(22:16):
fly zone, aircraft and you know, I don't know, probably
some other advanced systems but we're giving them a lot
of stuff, a lot of military material, and they're killing
a lot of Russians with it. A lot of Russians
are dying from missiles, artillery rounds, bullets, etc. That we
are providing Ukraine with. So there's notion that over the

(22:37):
drone incident there's going to be accountability. I just see here.
I'm like, hmm. I don't like empty rhetoric from people
that are supposed to be above it and thinking more strategically.
What does if accountability means calling the ambassador and being
very upset? Okay, sure we can do that. I'm sure
we've done that. But is this supposed to be an

(22:58):
indicator of something else another shift in policy? That's where
I get concerned. We got a lot, we got a
lot of military that listens to this show, obviously a
lot of current and former military. I want to bring
in some of your voices on this one. Tim and Harrisburg,
Pennsylvania retired Air Force pilot, Tim, what do you what
do you see going on here? No? I'm not a

(23:20):
retired Air Force pilot. I'm a retired Air Force retired
Air Force Sorry, go ahead, sir, Yeah, I think we'll
being manipulated and our usual response and people who know
if there's a crisis somewhere, we want to jump in
and help in some fashion or another. But I think
we're being manipulated. I think we're bleeding down our resources.

(23:42):
We never get paid back for what we do. You know,
there's no there's no recompense for it. I think the
problem is that the movers and shakers on an international
level are thinking strategically and we continue to react quickly.
It's like play check and somebody else playing chess. That's

(24:05):
what I think. I appreciate you calling in, Tim, Thank
you and thank you for your service. Terrence is a
former fighter pilot down in Santa Rosa Beach, Florida, the
Sunshine State. What's going on, Terrence? Hey, good to talk
to you. I do too say. The first time I
talked or listen to you, you were talking about the

(24:26):
parish piece of climate accord. Yeah. Sure, yeah, that that
night and I said, hey, this guy that, this guy's
pretty smart. Thank you for saying everything I wanted to
say that night. Anyway, Um, dude, or bringing down the drone,
I guess it didn't shoot it down. We don't know
that the fuel dump thing. I didn't know they had

(24:49):
dump on them. We had dump on our F fort
but we didn't have dump on our F sixteens. So
how they brought it down is uh to be found
out later. If you ever find the thing in the US,
can I just ask you about what? So you said
you flew an air airframe that did have fuel dump?
What what's the why do you use fuel dump? What's

(25:10):
that for? Is it just if you got to get lighter?
I mean, well, what's the circumstance you'd want to do that?
At four had fuel dump? And uh, what would you
would do is immediately after takeoff you get dumped your
internal or your wing fuel, not your internal fuel, and
you would dumped that to get lighter to land in
the case of the emergency. The same thing with airliners
that flew Blowing seven six sevens, Bowing triple sevens, and

(25:33):
they they had dump on it for the same reason.
You know you're on fire. Immediately after takeoffs you start
getting rid of the fuel. So I gotta assume, right
the the the Russian SU twenty seven involved here far,
I'm guessing it's you know, they're saying it was the
aggressor here it's highly maneuverable. The Russian pilot must have

(25:54):
known that this was a drone, got close to it,
so they brought it down. Is there a way they
could bring it down? I mean, like I guess the
best way to ask, how do you think they brought
it down? Because initially they said there was a collision.
I mean, could could the plane have clipped the wing?
I have to say that the fuel dump thing is
is bogus because evaporates so rapidly. A vaporizes as soon

(26:18):
as you dump, and there would be no way that
How would you measure how far to get in front
of the thing and then start dumping in front of
it unless you had somebody on the wing telling you
how to back up into this drone, which would be
something unless you did a lot of times, wouldn't be
real safe. So that drone was brought down some other
way than being fuel dumped in front of it. So

(26:43):
is it fair to say though, that in a fighter
plane airframe like the Russian SU twenty seven, any kind
of intentional like you know, back in the day of
ship warfare, if you could get back in the galley
warfare for example, or tryreems if you could get your
bow lined up against the against the starboard or stern

(27:05):
or the other person. Right. Um, if you could get
your your front, you could slice right through them and
your boat would be fine. There's would be but a plane.
You're not going to clip the wing of a of
a drone intentionally, right because you'd risk your own plane. Yeah? Right,
well you have there are there. We're tipping things that
the British us to do with the uh the buzz bombs.

(27:26):
They tip them. They come up and put their wing
underneath of it and tip it over. Okay, flip over?
Oh yeah, and then we flat I flew over defense
in Taiwan um back in the the early seventies, mid seventies,
and we actually had a ramming procedure. Wasn't there anything
that I was wanting to do? But yeah, I can

(27:49):
imagine why. It's that that tipping procedure something. They must
have done something here because it doesn't sound like they
they fired I mean I think we would they fired
a missile, right, so it sounds like there was some
other mechanical way they brought it out. Thank you for
calling in. It's fun to get a fighter. See you
get a fighter Pallett to calls in right away. I
actually had a we had a fighter Pallette over here

(28:10):
yesterday Carrie's dad, who was an fifteen eighteen pardon me,
naval aviator F eighteen. I gotta get this stuff right
F eighteen pilot. So that was maybe I'll ask him
next time I see him. He might be over by
the end of the week. I'm gonna ask him. How
could you How could you take out a reaper drone
when you're in a fighter plane without shooting it? What

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the Denarius if you didn't already today joining us after
I talk about that. Other fun things on the Sunday

(30:42):
hang as well. We have we have an actual drone pilot,
Bruce in New Mexico. Bruce talk to us. Hey, y'all know, Yeah,
I was the MQ one Q nine SMEE at the
Pentagon SMEE being some pretty bad at expert for four years.
What can I tell you about the m Q nine
that would help? How could they have brought this thing?

(31:03):
I mean, I hope you heard the conversation with the
F four pilot. How could they have brought this thing down? Well,
it's they're they're very fragile, to tell you the truth.
And they didn't that way specifically to be light and
be able to go airborne. The m Q nine, I
don't know which version they had, but you know, a
full twenty four hours worse if they're not carrying any

(31:25):
ordinance on it and just a bunch of gas. Normally
we did in q nines around eighteen hours, in q
nuns about twenty to twenty one hours. But they're light,
they're fragile, and you could clip a wing and do
some damage. You could get in front of it and
cause enough turbulence to actually break lock with the satellites

(31:47):
and send it into a Really it's possible. And if
if they if he was, if they were just stupid
and they clipped the prop with their radar dome, which
they may have done, it would have shad the fiberglass prop.
Do you do you think, by the way that I
mean asking now for the manned side of the aerial

(32:09):
equation and the expertise you can give us on this one,
do you think that the Pentagon is planning to do
massive training and then or you know, a training program
and then deployment of American planes not manned by us,
obviously by Ukrainian pilots, But is that going to get
introduced into this theater or warfare? Do you think in

(32:29):
the future. You know, that's that's a really good question.
I think it would be rather silly if we want
to give them the hardware and let them do it. Okay, fine.
The other thing I wanted to say was Lindsay Graham
needs to check himself before he recks all of us.

(32:49):
That was a piece of fiberglass that we sent up
and one of the reasons we like it so much
is because there's not a little pink but sitting in
the seat of back. Yeah, it's a different I mean,
we all can recognize it's a different thing to shoot. Yeah,
it's expensive, but Uncle Sam's got pretty deep pockets. To
bring a drone down is a very different thing than

(33:10):
shooting a pilot out of the sky and having his
family given a folded flag, right. I mean, we all Russian, American,
anybody would understand that. So I don't know, I don't
know why people listen to Lindsay Graham on this stuff.
I mean, he's a senator and he's been in the
game a long time. Thank you for calling in Bruce
from New Mexico. I appreciate it. We had to look
at This is what I always love. I can sit
here with this audience, it is amazing. I can crowdsource,

(33:33):
particularly on firearms history, anything military related. I can crowdsource
the most specific question imaginable and I'll get an answer.
I could ask somebody, hey, if the third widget from
the left on the rotor of a Blackhawk helicopter has
come a little bit loose, what can I use in
my toolbox? I will have like a night stalker mechanic

(33:57):
calling in within within five minutes telling me exactly how
to fix. It's amazing. But we can bring to bear
on this show anyway. We've got call. I mean, we've
got some emails into I wanted to get to. Let's
see this one. This is instance from Andy. It goes
to the Trump desantists throwdown, which is it's underway, folks,

(34:19):
it's happening now, right. We didn't want to get ahead
of ourselves, but you know there's there's friendly fire getting
thrown around here. That's that's what's going on. I Clay
and Buck and we better. I suppose if the Donald
made nice and acted a bit more civil toward Descantists,
but don't hold your breath. President Trump, for all his
brilliance and common sense, though he showed terrible judgment with

(34:41):
some of his picks, the people he picked. We're living
through a very crass and vulgar age in America. And
who is the crass vulgarian with the common touch, of course,
the man of the hour sent by the Lord. Some
say I personally am sitting on the fifty yard line
on this though I have voted for him twice and
will again third time, though somewhat leary. He leaves Versailles

(35:03):
on the Atlantic to give a rally to the trailer
park in Alabama to people that are holding on to
being middle class? Is this what politics is? So? You know,
he says Donald is right in the war in Ukraine, etc. Etc.
Thank you best, Andy. Look, you know people are gonna

(35:24):
get this is gonna be a very passionate debate, and
people feel very strongly about it. I have people reaching
out to me on both sides. And it's interesting because
every the people that I know who want to Scantists
to win this primary are all overwhelmingly saying things like
I voted for Trump twice. I respect him so much.
I like him so much. The Trump people who now

(35:47):
when I say Trump people, I'll vote for Trump obviously
if he's a nominee. Any Republicans should vot for Trump
if he's a nomineque. We're just talking about primaries right now.
But people who have already said they're all in on Trump.
They don't say de Santist is a clown, I don't
like um, he's a no, no no. They say he's
a very good governor. His time will come. So it's
really interesting because you're gonna see this huge fight, but

(36:09):
both sides respect the primary combatant that is the choice
of the other side. I feel like that's that's uncommon.
I'm really seeing this a lot. You know, the people
that are the most ardent Trump primary voters to be
obviously it hasn't happened yet, they all tell me they
think DeSantis has done an amazing job in Florida and

(36:30):
he's you know, he's deserves a lot of credit and
his day will come. That's that's what I'm hearing. I mean,
not from absolutely everybody, but ninety five percent and all
the Descentis people I know are saying Trump is amazing
he built this movement, but we think, because of his age,
YadA YadA, to be very interesting to see where this
all plays out and where it goes, and we're excited

(36:52):
to be a part of that conversation with all of you.
Thanks for hanging out with us, Talk you tomorrow.

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