July 20, 2024 • 36 mins
NJ Democrat Senator Bob Menendez found guilty. Music legend Lee Greenwood talks to Clay and Buck about singing for President Trump's dramatic entrance into the RNC. More analysis of the Secret Service failure in Pennsylvania. Biden's Secret Service director has terrible answers for the failure on Saturday, Biden seems to not even know who she is. Sen. Rick Scott joins C&B to talk about GOP prospects in the Senate.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are live in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
As the I would say frenzy surrounding the Republican National
Convention grows more and more people here in the Radio
Row area just down the road, probably a quarter mile
from the arena where we were last night, when Donald
Trump walked in while Lee Greenwood was singing and brought
down the entire house. You just heard us talking with
(00:28):
Eric Trump, one of the sons of Donald Trump. I
thought incredibly compelling story that he was sharing about the
experience that he had as a son watching video of
his father potentially dying live on television. As a dad
himself now of a six year old and a four
(00:50):
year old, and that moment that he talked about where
his dad goes in on grandfather granddaughter day at his
six year old daughter school, and just how compelling that is.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I think the human element of.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Being a dad, of being a grandpa of a family
a lot of times gets lost. So I thought that
was supremely compelling. A little bit of news that's out there, Buck.
Senator Menendez of New Jersey has been found guilty of
all fourteen felony counts in his case. Theoretically, I would
(01:24):
imagine will face substantial periods in prison for that, for
that violation, for those felonies. We'll see exactly what happens.
But that has just happened again. That was basically selling
access bribery. His wife is going to be charged separately.
And to the extent I followed this and I kind
(01:45):
of was fascinated by his criminal defense. It was really
that his wife was engaged. He kind of threw his
wife in there as the culprit, and I would imagine
her defense will be Actually, no, it was him. Their
trials were not connected, and you can't compel a spouse
to testify against another spouse. So I thought it was
(02:07):
kind of an intriguing method of defense that they tried
to use. He is not going to be the nominee
for Democrats Menendez, but he's running as an independent in
New Jersey. I think he's gonna have to stop. I
think it's going to be a game over for him.
At this point. You would think the Democrats would finally
(02:28):
say this guy can't be seated anymore. We'll see what happens,
but he is running as an independent, so that is
out there that is breaking news as it pertains to
his criminal trial. Just building off what Eric Trump was
talking about with us, you could hear the disgust in
his voice for the larger leadership of the Secret Service
(02:50):
and the FBI as distinct from the individual guys and
gals out there on the day to day protection detail
of his day, of his family. The details that continue
to come out buck about the shooter and his ability
to get onto the roof of that building which now
(03:13):
is reportedly actually the sniper location for the Pennsylvania Police.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So it's not only.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That the counter sniper team camped out in the building
that had the roof where the assassin set up. And
you and I, like, on Sunday, I called you when
we were talking about this, and I threw out, I
don't know if I said it on the air yesterday,
but I threw out the only thing that made sense
(03:43):
to me on Sunday as to why they didn't take
this guy out on the roof immediately upon seeing him
with a weapon laying there on the roof was that
there was confusion about whether he might be a quote
unquote good guy right, whether it might be a Pennsylvania
sniper that actually ties in somewhat now, because you're talking
(04:04):
about a scenario where he's on the roof of the
sniper headquarters.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They probably were in the ear. I bet this is
what's going to happen, and they were saying, surely that's
got to be one of our friendlies. That has to
be someone trying to protect, and they were afriend This
is my theory. I'm curious if you would buy it.
They were afraid of shooting a friendly at the rally
and making a poor decision, and this twenty year old
(04:32):
basically managed to create such a cacophony of absurdity that
they were unable to figure out whether he was friend
or foe, and they waited until he actually attempted the
shot to then try and neutralize him. Do you think
that has some basis potentially in reality as it pertains.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And by the way, our.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Good friendly Greenwood walking by right now to hop on
with us.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Up a bit of a we're making quite a topic
change here, but we do have Lee Greenwood in.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Sorry, you want this a benefit, you can go ahead
and put on the headset here. We were just talking
about how you singing last night as Trump walked out
was one of the most iconic moments in the Republican
Convention or any convention ever. Could you feel the electricity
(05:29):
yourself as you were standing up on the stage and
President Trump came on, came out.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Well, first of all, you have to you probably have
to realize that this is the fortieth anniversary me writing
and recording.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
God Bless the USA.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Second of all, I still do eighty year show concerts
a year, so I closed my show with it, and
it is always moving. But when I sing for President Trump,
it's a lot different. I've sang for other presidents, but
President Trump is someone that I know needs the enner
he needs and that's why he does Why MC and
then God bless you us say for reverence and and
(06:06):
we weren't supposed to be here till tonight, and so
because we got events tonight, Wednesday and Thursday. But when Trump,
after he was attempt at assassination, he wanted to make
an appearance here to show his strength, his courage, his
defiance and and what uh the RNC needed to hear
and see from him. I was a little surprised that
they made the announcement early about the vice president selection. However,
(06:30):
that's that's going to play out, and it's going to
be fine, good, it's it's going to be a great ticket.
But when he started walking in and I was already
told you introduced the president. Of course, the voice of
God was in the house. They did that, but of
course over network television it would be me that would
introduce him. I could see he was moving a little
bit slow. He was like, I'm sure exhausted from from
(06:50):
the injury and and getting through that.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
He maybe even didn't sleep last night, a Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
But but to tell you the truth, when I got
eye contact with him just a second and he knew
I was going to sing the whole song, he stood
there for a moment and then I saw a little
smile on his face. And then at the end, of course,
I saluted him and he saluted me back. The whole RNC.
I just felt there was a mood that changed with
the rn C. They suddenly came alive, they suddenly came energized.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Here's our guy.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
He is good, he's full of faith and prayer like
we know we want him to be. And yeah, and
it was not business as usual for me.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I was excited.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
When people say that it feels like there was a miracle,
or it was the touch of a touch of the divine,
divine intervention, whatever one wants to call it, to go
from where we were on Saturday, in that moment where
so many of us thought that the worst that happened
to now Trump in this position where he is a
(07:50):
man walking with destiny, how does that feel?
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I mean, and.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Given that your song is used both to introduce him
and is probably more associated with Donald Trump than any
other piece of music out there, but how does that
all feel to you?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I'm an artist, a singer, I've been a musician since
I was ten eleven years old. In order to walk
with someone that is, that is controlled of the greatest
country on earth, I can't tell you what an honor
that is and what a privilege it is. You put
it very well, divine intervention. Had he not turned his
(08:28):
head just slightly, who had taken the back of his
head off, he would have been dead. And so I
think God said no, not now. And for whatever reason
that that shooter felt that he had to take a shot,
and there is no motive yet for that.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
They don't understand why he did that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I can't either, But of course eventsive Secret Service and
the police that were a little bit lack, So that's
another conversation. But the fact that he wasn't injured desperately,
I mean, obviously took a piece of zero off on you.
He was bandied bandage when he walked into the arena
last night. It is a privilege for me, in an
honor to be able to do that and to know
that what I've been doing for the last few years.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I don't know if you know about this that God
bless you USA Bible.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, you came on with us and talked about it.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And the President also has also stepped out and which
made me very proud that he notified everybody he believes
in God and he believes in faith and prayer.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
There's no more stronger point. Now.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
All media has been talking about that all day today
and you put it very well, divine intervention. To me,
this is God's hand on this president to be re elected.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Lee, It's an honor to sit here with you.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We love the song and it was amazing last night
in that stadium.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Where can people go again for the.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
God bless the USA Bible. Thank you, And it's very simple.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
This is the King James version of the Bible, so
it says God bless the USA Bible dot com. God
Bless the USA Bible dot com or Lee Greenwood dot com.
This is a tab to click on that as well.
It's beautifully leatherbound. People should have it.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
We look forward to seeing you at more events for
President Trump in the future.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
We want to singing. I bet you'll be singing at
the duration in January. You drink a lot of tea.
Even the vocal cords in good shape.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Do you remember at the last inauguration when I sang
and he got up out of the plastic area that
was protected from the industry and rushed over to grab me,
and and I said, congratulation on the next four years,
and he said only eight years. He meant it, so
he mend it. And we're all now on the same page.
It will be Donald Trump the next president.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Leg with everybody, from your lips to God's ears. Thank you.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We just
had Lee Green went on, We've got people coming through
here at the r and see we are live.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
We are on Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And so I just saw Lee Zelden differently, So I said, Lee,
you got to do you guys team? We got Lee
Zelden walk by. He wants to come on. I want
to I want to ask him. Oh, he's right, his
team is right over there. We want to ask him
if this prediction that our friend Mark Simone, mister new
York having the boldest prediction in the history of the
show seven to ten w or I love his show.
The only problem with listening to a show is it
(12:22):
makes me want to move back to New York. And
I'm in Florida now and I'm like, got wildly successful. Yeah,
a great show in New York City. But he made
the prediction on our show, on our era that he
thinks New York is going to go for Trump, which
I mean, look, I tried. I even tried to get
him to back off at all. I said, well, it's
going to be real. You mean it's going to be
really close. He said, no, we have the audio for it.
(12:43):
He said, no, it's gonna go for Trump. We want
to ask Lee Zelden, who helped start to close that
gap in.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
The last election.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
We only have a Republican majority in Congress, I would
argue because of what Lee did in New York, which
is going right into the heart of Democrats control and
trying to rest one out of their hands. But Clay,
we were also discussing and there's more more information coming
out about this. Here's I just want to as a
(13:10):
framework for thinking about the failure of.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Security on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
The two options that we've been discussing are, and I
mean from a law enforcement failure perspective, right leaving aside
you know, the lunatic assassin and you know, we can
talk more about that later on as well. It's either
a conspiracy or a grotesque in confidence and a lot
of people talking conspiracy online. I like to always stay
(13:40):
with the facts as we know them. And here's what
I can say. I'm not discounting. I'm not discounting anything
yet until we can prove that it should be discounted,
but the incompetence with additional details keeps getting more and
more extreme. And I had mentioned on the show recently,
when you read about airline disasters where you know, two
(14:03):
hundred people die at once because of a plane crash,
it tends to be cascading failure, a failure with another failure,
with another failure. It's not just one bad decision, it's
a series of bad decisions. And I think we could
say with certainty right now that there were a series
of bad decisions, horrifically incompetent, and a net decisions made
(14:24):
combination of secret service and local law enforcement, depending on
the specifics. Here's what we need to find out. Though
there are people who are saying, we know that there
was a counter sniper team in the building from which
the sniper on the roof took the shot. There's FBI
interrogation going on right now, investigation interrogation of the local
(14:49):
law enforcement officer who peered up onto the roof. Now,
initial reports people were saying, oh my gosh, how could
he not engage the shooter. There's already some pushback to
say that he he pulled himself up to see and
the sniper who had plenty of time to prepare. Some
say they looked and thirty minutes before they recognized there
(15:09):
was somebody on that rooftop other secret service. So we've
got to we got to confirm.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
That as well.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But as soon as he peered up, the guy swung
with his rifle, and so now he's you know, he
had no opportunity to get to a side arm to engage.
And that now that might have actually sped up the shot,
meaning that the shooter which would again him less and
made him less accurate than he would have otherwise been.
That is a possibility, but we have to find out
that piece. But here's the piece clay, that is.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
It is.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I we can't confirm it yet, but I'm seeing reporting
on it that the because why would they not How
could you be in a building as a counter sniper
team and not grab the rooftop.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Yes, that's it's unthinkable.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
There are there are early reports that there was concern
that the slope of the roof would have created an
unsafe place for the sniper team, for the counter sniper
team to be So if that is true, meaning that, oh,
we can't have them on a slope roof, what if
they fall down, we'll get sued and that you see
(16:14):
what I mean, you you have to And now I
would normally think that reporting gots a whole. On a second,
hold on a second, Is that really what went Clay?
I cannot think of an explanation. It would have to
be that level of gross incompetence. And I know that
people think there's some people think it's I look, give
me the proof that it's something other than gross and
(16:34):
competence and we'll get into that. But that to me
would be an explanation of, Oh, we're worried about the
agent's safety or the law enforcement officer safety by being
on a sloped roof.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
What they have to do is, and you just heard
Jim Jordan talking with us a little bit ago about this,
they have to release the conversations that would have been
happening with the Secret Service snipers because they definitely knew
that those that that guy was on the roof, because
he took him out as soon as he started firing.
(17:08):
My look at all the evidence, My best approximation of
what may well have happened is the Secret Service thought
that is a friendly because that's where the snipers are
located with the Pennsylvania State Troopers, and they were afraid
of killing an innocent person, and they were they had
optics on it.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They're looking at that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
They probably sent that cop to be like, hey, who
is this and the communication broke down and they didn't
take the shot until that guy had already taken the shot,
which is why we're at a failure right once he
takes the shot, you completely called it. We're all super
fortunate that what there wasn't a murder, there was an assassination.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I have the quote. Actually I have the quote. We'll
get back to this. They reporting is accurate. I mean,
it's just crazy.
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Welcome back in, Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
(18:54):
of you hanging out with us. All right, Buck, we're
talking about the colossal failure to protect the pre in
the United States, past and potentially future in Pennsylvania, leaving
that rooftop exposed with the twenty year old would be
assassin able to take shots at Trump clip his ear
narrowly miss committing the assassination, and the Secret Service director,
(19:17):
the woman has come out and explained we made that.
We made the choice not to put our own snipers
on top of the roof of that building because there
was a concern the roof slope too much and we
were worried that whomever was on top of that may
well have had difficulty and or injured themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
What are the quotes? These are pretty unbelievable quotes.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
It's stunning, Clay.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I mean, when you look at the expectation, the reasonable
expectation the public has for there to be a decent
amount of or just the most baseline competency.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I mean, I'm looking up right now exactly.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Oh, here you go.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is too, she told ABC News this yesterday or today, Sorry,
this just came out this morning. That building in particular,
referring to the building where the shot was taken, has
a sloped roof at its highest point, and so you know,
there's a safety factor that would have to be considered
there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on
(20:20):
a sloped roof. She told ABC News the director of
Secret Service, we can't risk having a counter sniper team
on a sloped roof play I I you know, there
are limits of the stupid and the people don't. It
doesn't make any sense because the counter sniper team that
(20:42):
took out the sniper was on a does anyone a
guess sloped roof? This is but this is the kind
of thing you would say in an interview where what
you did and what happened I should say, what happened
on your watch is so grow testly incompetent that the
real answer is we are idiots who weren't paying attention
(21:06):
to what really mattered here. Yes, at the leadership level.
I mean she has to be fired. She has to
be fired immediately. How can Joe Biden not fire?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, I'll answer because Joe Biden probably doesn't even know
who his Secret Service director is. This is last night
talking to Lester Holt, Cut twelve. The woman's name is
Kim Cheatle. He said, Oh, I've heard from him. He
doesn't even know that a woman is in charge of
his Secret Service. Listen to cut twelve.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Is it acceptableieve you've still not heard at least publicly
from the Secret Service director?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Oh, I've heard, John. Have you heard from her publicly?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Public craft sat down in a situation from downstairs Secret Service,
to the FBI and that security agencies, the Homeland Security,
all the major.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Okay, we can cut him off. You heard Biden say, oh,
I've heard from him. He doesn't even know the gender
of the Secret Service director that he's claiming to have
heard from.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Also, Buck, we have audio from her.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
She says, The buck stops with me, but I'm planning
on staying on.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I don't know why she has to drag me into this.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
But although you can't say the buck stops with me.
You narrowly avoid the president getting killed, former president, potentially
future president.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Which is your only job.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Yes, don't get the president.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
One job, one job, one job.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And not to say nothing of the other innocent man
who was killed because of her inquy.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
We have to always bring up play a life was
an innocent life. A wonderful American is dead because of
this failure to confront and stop this threat before it
could become operational.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's right, And he or she is saying, the buck
stops with me, but I'm not going to resign.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm sorry. You can't twin these together.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Listen, what was your reaction when you saw the events
unfold on Saturday?
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Shock and then concern? Obviously for the former president. This
is an event that should have never happened.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Who is most responsible for this happening?
Speaker 11 (23:08):
What I would say is that the Secret Service is
responsible for the protection of the former president.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
So the buck stops with you, The buck stops with me.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
I am the director of the Secret Service. It was
unacceptable and it's something that shouldn't happen again.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
The President and Homeland Security Secretary said today they had
one hundred percent confidence in you. But there are some
members of Congress calling on you to resign.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
I appreciate the Secretary's comments, and we're going to continue
to be transparent and communicate with people.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
You plan to stay on, absolutely, I.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
Do plan to stay on.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm sorry, how in the world can you have one
hundred percent confidence in someone that allowed the president only
by the grace of God, to avoid being murdered by
a twenty year old loser, not a professional assassin, not
a killer. This is not an unbelievable scheme that was
put in place that no one could have contemplated. This
(24:00):
neamus awful twenty year old who we've tried to avoid
saying his name on this show because we don't want
to publicize mass shooters. He climbed onto the roof of
the most self evident location from which you would shoot
the president at the entire venue. She has to be
fired immediately, and we just got to go back buck
(24:20):
to the meritocracy. You heard Eric Trump talking about it,
this whole DEI business. Get the best man or the
best woman who can do a job, and get them
there and let them do the job. I do think
that conservatives are waking up to, don't you don't fight
DEI by doing a conservative version of DEI.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
We don't do this. This is not how we operate,
so we will.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
We'll come back into more on this. And also we've
got Senator Rick Scott joining us from Florida. Senator Marshall
Blackburn's going to be coming to by. Hi've got Lee
Zelden coming Clay. We are racked and stacked here, my friend.
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Speaker 7 (26:50):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We are here at the RNC. It is quite an
event this year in Milwaukee. And I will say, I
don't know how many Wayne's World fans we have out there,
but I did ask a yeah, it's a great movie.
I asked a native Milwaukee and I said, is it
true that Milliewualker Milliewauke means the good land? And he's like, nah,
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I think it means gathering by the river. And I
was like, wait what Yes, all this time, all this time,
thanks to Alice Cooper and Wayne's World, I had thought
that Milwaukee went meant the good land.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
But we have from another good land, Florida, my home state.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Senator Rick Scott is here with us now, sitting down.
Just happened to be in the neighborhood. Look at that.
Great to see you, sir.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Let's just give it to you.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
We only got a you know, got five six minutes.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Give us the big thoughts, R and C.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
So far, how's it going?
Speaker 12 (27:42):
I think that I think the first invention was great.
We are getting about the same weather as Florida right now.
We got a little rain outside.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yes, I'm glad I had the prep for it.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
So but uh, I think people are coming together. I
think it's going to be a great convention. I think
it's gonna We're gonna come out of this. Trump's going
to be in great shape, and I think it's going
to put some position not only win the White House,
but we'll also win the House and the Senate.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You are in Florida, which is one of two states
that Democrats are trying to say they can put in play,
Florida and Texas. You and Senator Ted Cruz, we feel
pretty confident that you are going to win. I'm curious
what you see on the ground in Florida.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
What do you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Expect to see in that state? And in the larger
Senate picture, what are you seeing beyond the defensible seats
that we have in Florida and Texas With you and
Senator Cruz, I.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
Think Democrats would be foolish to spend any money in Florida.
And here's why. In Florida, we actually like legal immigration.
We don't like illegal immigration. We'd like to have a
secure border. You talk to people in Florida. They don't
like high inflation. It's caused by government spending that we'd
like to have. We are a big military state. We
don't want to have a Wilke military. We want to
have a strong, lethal military. So I think that it'd
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be foolish for the Democrats to spend any money in Florida.
I'll be shocked if they. I'll be shocked if they
if they do. So, I'm up this year. So the
Democrats have a primary, we'll see who comes out of
their primary. With regard to overall Senate, I think we're
gonna get a majority as long as Tied Cruise and
I win our elections, and we're both, you know, working hard,
and I think we'll both win. We're gonna win West Virginia.
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That puts us at fifty. So then we've got a
great cholt with Brendan Marino in Ohio. We've got a
great chot with Shi and Montana. We got a great
shop with Sam Brown. We got Nevada, we got a
great jot with Carrie Lake. But we got other opportunities
David McCormick in Pennsylvania, we got a lot in Wisconsin, Michigan,
we got, we had a great opportunity to take have
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a decent majority, you know, have a good majority. Maybe
now you get to sixty, because then that's really hard.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah, well, Senator, let's assume.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Then, just for the purposes of a conversation today, that
you have a Trump presidency, a healthy but not quite
sixty Senate majority, and the Republicans are in charge of that,
in control of the House as well. What's the first
thing that you would want to be a part of
on the Senate side in terms of action to be
taken with unified government under Trump two point zero.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
I think the biggest issue we're dealing with right now
is illegal immigration. So I think the getting the border
secure day one is a big deal. And I think Trump,
first off, Trump did it before without any bills, he
can do it again. So I think that's number one.
Number two, we've got to get the budget under control,
because we've got to get inflation under control. It's truly
hurting families. I rep report family. I lived in public
housing growing up. Those families are getting creamed with the
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grocery prices and gas prices and home prices, all these things.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
So I think that's that's a big issue.
Speaker 12 (30:28):
And then we gotta we got to understand that we
have enemies Russia, Iran, China, North Korea. So we've got
we've got to we've got to start start making sure
we have a strong military and we don't get in
conflicts all over the world.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
We've got to be very careful about that.
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Then for Florida, we got to we've got to have
a better relationship with our neighbors in Latin America. We
got to we've got to hold the Cashro regime accountable
in Cuba, dis Canal in Maduro and Venezuela, and are
taken in Nicaragua.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Weed, let's go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, No, so you mentioned you wouldn't you don't expect
them to spend money, Demock. I think the Biden team
has spent. The number that I saw was three hundred
thousand dollars on ads for Biden, which is virtually nothing.
How red do you think Florida is going to be
not only for your race but for President Trump? And
what does that say about the evolution of the state
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of Florida even in the time that you've been in
the Senate.
Speaker 12 (31:21):
Well, the sank in twenty ten when I won the
primary are one. The general election, there were five hundred
and sixty eight thousand more Democrats than Republicans. We were
able to win in twenty eighteen, when I went in
my last center race, there are two hundred thousand more Democrats.
So what's happened is people have changed parties. People have
come into our state.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You're welcome, Senator, by the way, not just one of
those one of the ones that have helped flift it
so red it adds up.
Speaker 12 (31:44):
And so now we're I think at nine to fifty
thousand more Republicans. But that doesn't What that means, though,
is you have to go keep solving problems. You've got
to be you know, you've got at at the state level,
at the local level, at the federal level. We've got
to start solving problems or why people people won't vote
for us. So I'm optimistic, but what that means is
we have to work hard. We have to talk to everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So you're you're a very successful business guy as well
as obviously being a senator. So in a new Trump administration,
what do you think the most important thing we can
do to get the economy in a place wherever it
feels like this is this is what it should be.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
Right.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It's never going to be perfect. There's gonna be problems.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
But people right now say, well, look at how high
the stock market is.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Well, what could be done?
Speaker 12 (32:27):
Yeah, but that's the stock Market's not what the average
person is feeling, right. I mean, if you're rich, it's fine, right,
But but the average person that's worrying about grocery prices and
gas prices and the whole prices, it's not helping them.
So the number one thing is we got to downsize
the size of government. Government's way too big.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
To think about it.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
In the last five years, we've had a two percent
increase in population and a fifty five percent increase in
spending that's causing this inflation. The federal government probably needs
to be half its size, So that would be the
number one.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Number two is get good savings?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Will we get if you actually made the federal government
happens just roughly? I mean, I know, I'm I'm maybe
putting you too much on the spot, but are we
talking hundreds of billions?
Speaker 12 (33:02):
I mean, well, yeah, you could twellions it would be well,
think about that.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Here's what should scare you.
Speaker 12 (33:06):
So we're going to collect somewhere between four point two
and probably four point six trillion dollars this year. Our
spending is going to be close to six point six
to seven trade, right, so of our collection and we're
gonna run. So we're gonna run over a two trillion
dollars deficit. Okay, you can't do that in your life.
Nobody can do that.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
But I mean, how much do you think we sew
at once?
Speaker 7 (33:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I mean, it's it's one thing to say take the
four trillion of spending and just say, well it's half,
it's two, let's cut.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Could you get it down a trillion in one year?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Or absolutely?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Now they say a decrease in the increase in spending
is something.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
To be excited about.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
You.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
So when I walked into the job as governor in
twenty ten, the state of Florida had not lived within
its means for twenty straight years and I only lived
within this means one year and forty. So I walked
in with a four billion dollar budget deficit.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So how would I do?
Speaker 12 (33:50):
I said, Well, O, the revenues we're anticipate the resisons
are gonna be seventy billion. Guess what we're not spilling
spending any more than that.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
That's how you do it.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
That's how you do it the personal life. We all
do it that way.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
The people that you serve with understand basic business dynamics
could run a lemonade stand.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
So with the other two business guys in the senator,
Ron Johnson.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
And Mike Bron And Mike, we were with.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Ron a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
We love Ron, but I mean, is that frustrating as
a business guy to be serving with so many people
who don't understand basic business contents and tax You know, I'll.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Tell you what I tell my kids.
Speaker 12 (34:23):
I said, the most important job, the most important education
you can get is learn bookkeeping and accounting. You got
to understand the debit. You understand this stuff. It's really
basic stuff. And so and this idea that we can
just keep spending and spending and spending, it's going to
catch up with this. Look at interest rates, Look at
look at mortgage rates right now, right over seven percent?
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Yes, how do these people? How do how do you
young people?
Speaker 12 (34:44):
With the debt they're they're finished up with school, with
medical bills, with house costs, with interest rates the interest
rates are what on credit cards the highest ever? I
mean this stuff's all caused by government spending. So could
you balance a budget?
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:59):
If you you said you're going to balance about you
can balance it in a year.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And who do you think should be in the conversation
for Senate majority leader?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
If control?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well I might be running now.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
And have you heard that? Yeah? So here's here's a perception.
Speaker 12 (35:13):
Okay, So do you think we should operate as a
dictatorship or a leadership?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (35:18):
Are we in big businesses? I had tuned eighty five
thousand ployts. Do you think I just said here's what
I'm gonna tell all tuna five that eighty five thousand
of you every day, what.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
You're going to do? No, you can't.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
You build a team and you listen to your team.
That's what the Senate should work. But there's been two dictatorships.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
In the Senate.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
They're on the Republican side. There's been the mccougue dictatorship
and the Democratic Schumer dictatorship. That doesn't work. We're not
fixing problems, and so what we got to do is
we've got to say, how do we manage yourselves? We
have term limits for the leader, so nobody has that
much power, and we're next bills want to go through committee.
How shocked we're not putting bills through committee.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
No, it's all right.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We're just coming up to close here. I think that'd
be fascinating. We may be with the former I'm sorry,
the future, not former future centate.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Exciting.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, and everybody out there in Florida get ready to
get your votes in. By the way, we got a
bunch of your colleagues coming on. Marsha Blackburn's going to
join us. Top of the next hour. You mentioned Tim
Sheehey hopefully going to be the next Senator from Montana.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
He's going to be with us.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Also, Alena Haba, Lee Zelden, maybe a candidate down the road.
Absolutely packed final hour, Senator good luck. What what would
you tell people who are listening in Florida they can
do for you?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Vote?
Speaker 12 (36:24):
Okay, get all your friends to vote, and go out
and be a pull watch if you want to make
sure elections fair.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Amen, And if you're going to move to Florida to
make sure you're a Republican, I'm just I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, there we go, Thanks Edner, Good to see me.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Ta
Oh, welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We are live in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
As the I would say frenzy surrounding the Republican National
Convention grows more and more people here in the Radio
Row area just down the road, probably a quarter mile
from the arena where we were last night, when Donald
Trump walked in while Lee Greenwood was singing and brought
down the entire house. You just heard us talking with
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Eric Trump, one of the sons of Donald Trump. I
thought incredibly compelling story that he was sharing about the
experience that he had as a son watching video of
his father potentially dying live on television. As a dad
himself now of a six year old and a four
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year old, and that moment that he talked about where
his dad goes in on grandfather granddaughter day at his
six year old daughter school, and just how compelling that is.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I think the human element of.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Being a dad, of being a grandpa of a family
a lot of times gets lost. So I thought that
was supremely compelling. A little bit of news that's out there, Buck.
Senator Menendez of New Jersey has been found guilty of
all fourteen felony counts in his case. Theoretically, I would
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imagine will face substantial periods in prison for that, for
that violation, for those felonies. We'll see exactly what happens.
But that has just happened again. That was basically selling
access bribery. His wife is going to be charged separately.
And to the extent I followed this and I kind
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of was fascinated by his criminal defense. It was really
that his wife was engaged. He kind of threw his
wife in there as the culprit, and I would imagine
her defense will be Actually, no, it was him. Their
trials were not connected, and you can't compel a spouse
to testify against another spouse. So I thought it was
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kind of an intriguing method of defense that they tried
to use. He is not going to be the nominee
for Democrats Menendez, but he's running as an independent in
New Jersey. I think he's gonna have to stop. I
think it's going to be a game over for him.
At this point. You would think the Democrats would finally
(02:28):
say this guy can't be seated anymore. We'll see what happens,
but he is running as an independent, so that is
out there that is breaking news as it pertains to
his criminal trial. Just building off what Eric Trump was
talking about with us, you could hear the disgust in
his voice for the larger leadership of the Secret Service
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and the FBI as distinct from the individual guys and
gals out there on the day to day protection detail
of his day, of his family. The details that continue
to come out buck about the shooter and his ability
to get onto the roof of that building which now
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is reportedly actually the sniper location for the Pennsylvania Police.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So it's not only.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That the counter sniper team camped out in the building
that had the roof where the assassin set up. And
you and I, like, on Sunday, I called you when
we were talking about this, and I threw out, I
don't know if I said it on the air yesterday,
but I threw out the only thing that made sense
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to me on Sunday as to why they didn't take
this guy out on the roof immediately upon seeing him
with a weapon laying there on the roof was that
there was confusion about whether he might be a quote
unquote good guy right, whether it might be a Pennsylvania
sniper that actually ties in somewhat now, because you're talking
(04:04):
about a scenario where he's on the roof of the
sniper headquarters.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They probably were in the ear. I bet this is
what's going to happen, and they were saying, surely that's
got to be one of our friendlies. That has to
be someone trying to protect, and they were afriend This
is my theory. I'm curious if you would buy it.
They were afraid of shooting a friendly at the rally
and making a poor decision, and this twenty year old
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basically managed to create such a cacophony of absurdity that
they were unable to figure out whether he was friend
or foe, and they waited until he actually attempted the
shot to then try and neutralize him. Do you think
that has some basis potentially in reality as it pertains.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And by the way, our.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Good friendly Greenwood walking by right now to hop on
with us.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Up a bit of a we're making quite a topic
change here, but we do have Lee Greenwood in.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Sorry, you want this a benefit, you can go ahead
and put on the headset here. We were just talking
about how you singing last night as Trump walked out
was one of the most iconic moments in the Republican
Convention or any convention ever. Could you feel the electricity
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yourself as you were standing up on the stage and
President Trump came on, came out.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Well, first of all, you have to you probably have
to realize that this is the fortieth anniversary me writing
and recording.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
God Bless the USA.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Second of all, I still do eighty year show concerts
a year, so I closed my show with it, and
it is always moving. But when I sing for President Trump,
it's a lot different. I've sang for other presidents, but
President Trump is someone that I know needs the enner
he needs and that's why he does Why MC and
then God bless you us say for reverence and and
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we weren't supposed to be here till tonight, and so
because we got events tonight, Wednesday and Thursday. But when Trump,
after he was attempt at assassination, he wanted to make
an appearance here to show his strength, his courage, his
defiance and and what uh the RNC needed to hear
and see from him. I was a little surprised that
they made the announcement early about the vice president selection. However,
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that's that's going to play out, and it's going to
be fine, good, it's it's going to be a great ticket.
But when he started walking in and I was already
told you introduced the president. Of course, the voice of
God was in the house. They did that, but of
course over network television it would be me that would
introduce him. I could see he was moving a little
bit slow. He was like, I'm sure exhausted from from
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the injury and and getting through that.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
He maybe even didn't sleep last night, a Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
But but to tell you the truth, when I got
eye contact with him just a second and he knew
I was going to sing the whole song, he stood
there for a moment and then I saw a little
smile on his face. And then at the end, of course,
I saluted him and he saluted me back. The whole RNC.
I just felt there was a mood that changed with
the rn C. They suddenly came alive, they suddenly came energized.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Here's our guy.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
He is good, he's full of faith and prayer like
we know we want him to be. And yeah, and
it was not business as usual for me.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I was excited.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
When people say that it feels like there was a miracle,
or it was the touch of a touch of the divine,
divine intervention, whatever one wants to call it, to go
from where we were on Saturday, in that moment where
so many of us thought that the worst that happened
to now Trump in this position where he is a
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man walking with destiny, how does that feel?
Speaker 6 (07:53):
I mean, and.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Given that your song is used both to introduce him
and is probably more associated with Donald Trump than any
other piece of music out there, but how does that
all feel to you?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I'm an artist, a singer, I've been a musician since
I was ten eleven years old. In order to walk
with someone that is, that is controlled of the greatest
country on earth, I can't tell you what an honor
that is and what a privilege it is. You put
it very well, divine intervention. Had he not turned his
(08:28):
head just slightly, who had taken the back of his
head off, he would have been dead. And so I
think God said no, not now. And for whatever reason
that that shooter felt that he had to take a shot,
and there is no motive yet for that.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
They don't understand why he did that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I can't either, But of course eventsive Secret Service and
the police that were a little bit lack, So that's
another conversation. But the fact that he wasn't injured desperately,
I mean, obviously took a piece of zero off on you.
He was bandied bandage when he walked into the arena
last night. It is a privilege for me, in an
honor to be able to do that and to know
that what I've been doing for the last few years.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I don't know if you know about this that God
bless you USA Bible.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, you came on with us and talked about it.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
And the President also has also stepped out and which
made me very proud that he notified everybody he believes
in God and he believes in faith and prayer.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
There's no more stronger point. Now.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
All media has been talking about that all day today
and you put it very well, divine intervention. To me,
this is God's hand on this president to be re elected.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Lee, It's an honor to sit here with you.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We love the song and it was amazing last night
in that stadium.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Where can people go again for the.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
God bless the USA Bible. Thank you, And it's very simple.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
This is the King James version of the Bible, so
it says God bless the USA Bible dot com. God
Bless the USA Bible dot com or Lee Greenwood dot com.
This is a tab to click on that as well.
It's beautifully leatherbound. People should have it.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
We look forward to seeing you at more events for
President Trump in the future.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
We want to singing. I bet you'll be singing at
the duration in January. You drink a lot of tea.
Even the vocal cords in good shape.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Do you remember at the last inauguration when I sang
and he got up out of the plastic area that
was protected from the industry and rushed over to grab me,
and and I said, congratulation on the next four years,
and he said only eight years. He meant it, so
he mend it. And we're all now on the same page.
It will be Donald Trump the next president.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Leg with everybody, from your lips to God's ears. Thank you.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We just
had Lee Green went on, We've got people coming through
here at the r and see we are live.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
We are on Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And so I just saw Lee Zelden differently, So I said, Lee,
you got to do you guys team? We got Lee
Zelden walk by. He wants to come on. I want
to I want to ask him. Oh, he's right, his
team is right over there. We want to ask him
if this prediction that our friend Mark Simone, mister new
York having the boldest prediction in the history of the
show seven to ten w or I love his show.
The only problem with listening to a show is it
(12:22):
makes me want to move back to New York. And
I'm in Florida now and I'm like, got wildly successful. Yeah,
a great show in New York City. But he made
the prediction on our show, on our era that he
thinks New York is going to go for Trump, which
I mean, look, I tried. I even tried to get
him to back off at all. I said, well, it's
going to be real. You mean it's going to be
really close. He said, no, we have the audio for it.
(12:43):
He said, no, it's gonna go for Trump. We want
to ask Lee Zelden, who helped start to close that
gap in.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
The last election.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
We only have a Republican majority in Congress, I would
argue because of what Lee did in New York, which
is going right into the heart of Democrats control and
trying to rest one out of their hands. But Clay,
we were also discussing and there's more more information coming
out about this. Here's I just want to as a
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framework for thinking about the failure of.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Security on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
The two options that we've been discussing are, and I
mean from a law enforcement failure perspective, right leaving aside
you know, the lunatic assassin and you know, we can
talk more about that later on as well. It's either
a conspiracy or a grotesque in confidence and a lot
of people talking conspiracy online. I like to always stay
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with the facts as we know them. And here's what
I can say. I'm not discounting. I'm not discounting anything
yet until we can prove that it should be discounted,
but the incompetence with additional details keeps getting more and
more extreme. And I had mentioned on the show recently,
when you read about airline disasters where you know, two
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hundred people die at once because of a plane crash,
it tends to be cascading failure, a failure with another failure,
with another failure. It's not just one bad decision, it's
a series of bad decisions. And I think we could
say with certainty right now that there were a series
of bad decisions, horrifically incompetent, and a net decisions made
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combination of secret service and local law enforcement, depending on
the specifics. Here's what we need to find out. Though
there are people who are saying, we know that there
was a counter sniper team in the building from which
the sniper on the roof took the shot. There's FBI
interrogation going on right now, investigation interrogation of the local
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law enforcement officer who peered up onto the roof. Now,
initial reports people were saying, oh my gosh, how could
he not engage the shooter. There's already some pushback to
say that he he pulled himself up to see and
the sniper who had plenty of time to prepare. Some
say they looked and thirty minutes before they recognized there
(15:09):
was somebody on that rooftop other secret service. So we've
got to we got to confirm.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
That as well.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
But as soon as he peered up, the guy swung
with his rifle, and so now he's you know, he
had no opportunity to get to a side arm to engage.
And that now that might have actually sped up the shot,
meaning that the shooter which would again him less and
made him less accurate than he would have otherwise been.
That is a possibility, but we have to find out
that piece. But here's the piece clay, that is.
Speaker 7 (15:36):
It is.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I we can't confirm it yet, but I'm seeing reporting
on it that the because why would they not How
could you be in a building as a counter sniper
team and not grab the rooftop.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
Yes, that's it's unthinkable.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
There are there are early reports that there was concern
that the slope of the roof would have created an
unsafe place for the sniper team, for the counter sniper
team to be So if that is true, meaning that, oh,
we can't have them on a slope roof, what if
they fall down, we'll get sued and that you see
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what I mean, you you have to And now I
would normally think that reporting gots a whole. On a second,
hold on a second, Is that really what went Clay?
I cannot think of an explanation. It would have to
be that level of gross incompetence. And I know that
people think there's some people think it's I look, give
me the proof that it's something other than gross and
(16:34):
competence and we'll get into that. But that to me
would be an explanation of, Oh, we're worried about the
agent's safety or the law enforcement officer safety by being
on a sloped roof.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
What they have to do is, and you just heard
Jim Jordan talking with us a little bit ago about this,
they have to release the conversations that would have been
happening with the Secret Service snipers because they definitely knew
that those that that guy was on the roof, because
he took him out as soon as he started firing.
(17:08):
My look at all the evidence, My best approximation of
what may well have happened is the Secret Service thought
that is a friendly because that's where the snipers are
located with the Pennsylvania State Troopers, and they were afraid
of killing an innocent person, and they were they had
optics on it.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They're looking at that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
They probably sent that cop to be like, hey, who
is this and the communication broke down and they didn't
take the shot until that guy had already taken the shot,
which is why we're at a failure right once he
takes the shot, you completely called it. We're all super
fortunate that what there wasn't a murder, there was an assassination.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I have the quote. Actually I have the quote. We'll
get back to this. They reporting is accurate. I mean,
it's just crazy.
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of you hanging out with us. All right, Buck, we're
talking about the colossal failure to protect the pre in
the United States, past and potentially future in Pennsylvania, leaving
that rooftop exposed with the twenty year old would be
assassin able to take shots at Trump clip his ear
narrowly miss committing the assassination, and the Secret Service director,
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the woman has come out and explained we made that.
We made the choice not to put our own snipers
on top of the roof of that building because there
was a concern the roof slope too much and we
were worried that whomever was on top of that may
well have had difficulty and or injured themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
What are the quotes? These are pretty unbelievable quotes.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
It's stunning, Clay.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I mean, when you look at the expectation, the reasonable
expectation the public has for there to be a decent
amount of or just the most baseline competency.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
I mean, I'm looking up right now exactly.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Oh, here you go.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
This is too, she told ABC News this yesterday or today, Sorry,
this just came out this morning. That building in particular,
referring to the building where the shot was taken, has
a sloped roof at its highest point, and so you know,
there's a safety factor that would have to be considered
there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on
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a sloped roof. She told ABC News the director of
Secret Service, we can't risk having a counter sniper team
on a sloped roof play I I you know, there
are limits of the stupid and the people don't. It
doesn't make any sense because the counter sniper team that
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took out the sniper was on a does anyone a
guess sloped roof? This is but this is the kind
of thing you would say in an interview where what
you did and what happened I should say, what happened
on your watch is so grow testly incompetent that the
real answer is we are idiots who weren't paying attention
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to what really mattered here. Yes, at the leadership level.
I mean she has to be fired. She has to
be fired immediately. How can Joe Biden not fire?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, I'll answer because Joe Biden probably doesn't even know
who his Secret Service director is. This is last night
talking to Lester Holt, Cut twelve. The woman's name is
Kim Cheatle. He said, Oh, I've heard from him. He
doesn't even know that a woman is in charge of
his Secret Service. Listen to cut twelve.
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Is it acceptableieve you've still not heard at least publicly
from the Secret Service director?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Oh, I've heard, John. Have you heard from her publicly?
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Public craft sat down in a situation from downstairs Secret Service,
to the FBI and that security agencies, the Homeland Security,
all the major.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Okay, we can cut him off. You heard Biden say, oh,
I've heard from him. He doesn't even know the gender
of the Secret Service director that he's claiming to have
heard from.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Also, Buck, we have audio from her.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
She says, The buck stops with me, but I'm planning
on staying on.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
I don't know why she has to drag me into this.
Speaker 10 (22:14):
But although you can't say the buck stops with me.
You narrowly avoid the president getting killed, former president, potentially
future president.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Which is your only job.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Yes, don't get the president.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
One job, one job, one job.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And not to say nothing of the other innocent man
who was killed because of her inquy.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
We have to always bring up play a life was
an innocent life. A wonderful American is dead because of
this failure to confront and stop this threat before it
could become operational.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's right, And he or she is saying, the buck
stops with me, but I'm not going to resign.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm sorry. You can't twin these together.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Listen, what was your reaction when you saw the events
unfold on Saturday?
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Shock and then concern? Obviously for the former president. This
is an event that should have never happened.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
Who is most responsible for this happening?
Speaker 11 (23:08):
What I would say is that the Secret Service is
responsible for the protection of the former president.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
So the buck stops with you, The buck stops with me.
Speaker 11 (23:15):
I am the director of the Secret Service. It was
unacceptable and it's something that shouldn't happen again.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
The President and Homeland Security Secretary said today they had
one hundred percent confidence in you. But there are some
members of Congress calling on you to resign.
Speaker 11 (23:29):
I appreciate the Secretary's comments, and we're going to continue
to be transparent and communicate with people.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
You plan to stay on, absolutely, I.
Speaker 11 (23:36):
Do plan to stay on.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm sorry, how in the world can you have one
hundred percent confidence in someone that allowed the president only
by the grace of God, to avoid being murdered by
a twenty year old loser, not a professional assassin, not
a killer. This is not an unbelievable scheme that was
put in place that no one could have contemplated. This
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neamus awful twenty year old who we've tried to avoid
saying his name on this show because we don't want
to publicize mass shooters. He climbed onto the roof of
the most self evident location from which you would shoot
the president at the entire venue. She has to be
fired immediately, and we just got to go back buck
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this whole DEI business. Get the best man or the
best woman who can do a job, and get them
there and let them do the job. I do think
that conservatives are waking up to, don't you don't fight
DEI by doing a conservative version of DEI.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
We don't do this. This is not how we operate,
so we will.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
We'll come back into more on this. And also we've
got Senator Rick Scott joining us from Florida. Senator Marshall
Blackburn's going to be coming to by. Hi've got Lee
Zelden coming Clay. We are racked and stacked here, my friend.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We are here at the RNC. It is quite an
event this year in Milwaukee. And I will say, I
don't know how many Wayne's World fans we have out there,
but I did ask a yeah, it's a great movie.
I asked a native Milwaukee and I said, is it
true that Milliewualker Milliewauke means the good land? And he's like, nah,
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I think it means gathering by the river. And I
was like, wait what Yes, all this time, all this time,
thanks to Alice Cooper and Wayne's World, I had thought
that Milwaukee went meant the good land.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
But we have from another good land, Florida, my home state.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Senator Rick Scott is here with us now, sitting down.
Just happened to be in the neighborhood. Look at that.
Great to see you, sir.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Let's just give it to you.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
We only got a you know, got five six minutes.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Give us the big thoughts, R and C.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
So far, how's it going?
Speaker 12 (27:42):
I think that I think the first invention was great.
We are getting about the same weather as Florida right now.
We got a little rain outside.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Yes, I'm glad I had the prep for it.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
So but uh, I think people are coming together. I
think it's going to be a great convention. I think
it's gonna We're gonna come out of this. Trump's going
to be in great shape, and I think it's going
to put some position not only win the White House,
but we'll also win the House and the Senate.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You are in Florida, which is one of two states
that Democrats are trying to say they can put in play,
Florida and Texas. You and Senator Ted Cruz, we feel
pretty confident that you are going to win. I'm curious
what you see on the ground in Florida.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
What do you.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Expect to see in that state? And in the larger
Senate picture, what are you seeing beyond the defensible seats
that we have in Florida and Texas With you and
Senator Cruz, I.
Speaker 12 (28:28):
Think Democrats would be foolish to spend any money in Florida.
And here's why. In Florida, we actually like legal immigration.
We don't like illegal immigration. We'd like to have a
secure border. You talk to people in Florida. They don't
like high inflation. It's caused by government spending that we'd
like to have. We are a big military state. We
don't want to have a Wilke military. We want to
have a strong, lethal military. So I think that it'd
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be foolish for the Democrats to spend any money in Florida.
I'll be shocked if they. I'll be shocked if they
if they do. So, I'm up this year. So the
Democrats have a primary, we'll see who comes out of
their primary. With regard to overall Senate, I think we're
gonna get a majority as long as Tied Cruise and
I win our elections, and we're both, you know, working hard,
and I think we'll both win. We're gonna win West Virginia.
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That puts us at fifty. So then we've got a
great cholt with Brendan Marino in Ohio. We've got a
great chot with Shi and Montana. We got a great
shop with Sam Brown. We got Nevada, we got a
great jot with Carrie Lake. But we got other opportunities
David McCormick in Pennsylvania, we got a lot in Wisconsin, Michigan,
we got, we had a great opportunity to take have
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a decent majority, you know, have a good majority. Maybe
now you get to sixty, because then that's really hard.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah, well, Senator, let's assume.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Then, just for the purposes of a conversation today, that
you have a Trump presidency, a healthy but not quite
sixty Senate majority, and the Republicans are in charge of that,
in control of the House as well. What's the first
thing that you would want to be a part of
on the Senate side in terms of action to be
taken with unified government under Trump two point zero.
Speaker 12 (30:01):
I think the biggest issue we're dealing with right now
is illegal immigration. So I think the getting the border
secure day one is a big deal. And I think Trump,
first off, Trump did it before without any bills, he
can do it again. So I think that's number one.
Number two, we've got to get the budget under control,
because we've got to get inflation under control. It's truly
hurting families. I rep report family. I lived in public
housing growing up. Those families are getting creamed with the
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grocery prices and gas prices and home prices, all these things.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
So I think that's that's a big issue.
Speaker 12 (30:28):
And then we gotta we got to understand that we
have enemies Russia, Iran, China, North Korea. So we've got
we've got to we've got to start start making sure
we have a strong military and we don't get in
conflicts all over the world.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
We've got to be very careful about that.
Speaker 12 (30:42):
Then for Florida, we got to we've got to have
a better relationship with our neighbors in Latin America. We
got to we've got to hold the Cashro regime accountable
in Cuba, dis Canal in Maduro and Venezuela, and are
taken in Nicaragua.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Weed, let's go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, No, so you mentioned you wouldn't you don't expect
them to spend money, Demock. I think the Biden team
has spent. The number that I saw was three hundred
thousand dollars on ads for Biden, which is virtually nothing.
How red do you think Florida is going to be
not only for your race but for President Trump? And
what does that say about the evolution of the state
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of Florida even in the time that you've been in
the Senate.
Speaker 12 (31:21):
Well, the sank in twenty ten when I won the
primary are one. The general election, there were five hundred
and sixty eight thousand more Democrats than Republicans. We were
able to win in twenty eighteen, when I went in
my last center race, there are two hundred thousand more Democrats.
So what's happened is people have changed parties. People have
come into our state.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
You're welcome, Senator, by the way, not just one of
those one of the ones that have helped flift it
so red it adds up.
Speaker 12 (31:44):
And so now we're I think at nine to fifty
thousand more Republicans. But that doesn't What that means, though,
is you have to go keep solving problems. You've got
to be you know, you've got at at the state level,
at the local level, at the federal level. We've got
to start solving problems or why people people won't vote
for us. So I'm optimistic, but what that means is
we have to work hard. We have to talk to everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So you're you're a very successful business guy as well
as obviously being a senator. So in a new Trump administration,
what do you think the most important thing we can
do to get the economy in a place wherever it
feels like this is this is what it should be.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
Right.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It's never going to be perfect. There's gonna be problems.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
But people right now say, well, look at how high
the stock market is.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Well, what could be done?
Speaker 12 (32:27):
Yeah, but that's the stock Market's not what the average
person is feeling, right. I mean, if you're rich, it's fine, right,
But but the average person that's worrying about grocery prices and
gas prices and the whole prices, it's not helping them.
So the number one thing is we got to downsize
the size of government. Government's way too big.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
To think about it.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
In the last five years, we've had a two percent
increase in population and a fifty five percent increase in
spending that's causing this inflation. The federal government probably needs
to be half its size, So that would be the
number one.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Number two is get good savings?
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Will we get if you actually made the federal government
happens just roughly? I mean, I know, I'm I'm maybe
putting you too much on the spot, but are we
talking hundreds of billions?
Speaker 12 (33:02):
I mean, well, yeah, you could twellions it would be well,
think about that.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Here's what should scare you.
Speaker 12 (33:06):
So we're going to collect somewhere between four point two
and probably four point six trillion dollars this year. Our
spending is going to be close to six point six
to seven trade, right, so of our collection and we're
gonna run. So we're gonna run over a two trillion
dollars deficit. Okay, you can't do that in your life.
Nobody can do that.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
But I mean, how much do you think we sew
at once?
Speaker 7 (33:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I mean, it's it's one thing to say take the
four trillion of spending and just say, well it's half,
it's two, let's cut.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Could you get it down a trillion in one year?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Or absolutely?
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Now they say a decrease in the increase in spending
is something.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
To be excited about.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
You.
Speaker 12 (33:37):
So when I walked into the job as governor in
twenty ten, the state of Florida had not lived within
its means for twenty straight years and I only lived
within this means one year and forty. So I walked
in with a four billion dollar budget deficit.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So how would I do?
Speaker 12 (33:50):
I said, Well, O, the revenues we're anticipate the resisons
are gonna be seventy billion. Guess what we're not spilling
spending any more than that.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
That's how you do it.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
That's how you do it the personal life. We all
do it that way.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
The people that you serve with understand basic business dynamics
could run a lemonade stand.
Speaker 12 (34:06):
So with the other two business guys in the senator,
Ron Johnson.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
And Mike Bron And Mike, we were with.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Ron a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
We love Ron, but I mean, is that frustrating as
a business guy to be serving with so many people
who don't understand basic business contents and tax You know, I'll.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Tell you what I tell my kids.
Speaker 12 (34:23):
I said, the most important job, the most important education
you can get is learn bookkeeping and accounting. You got
to understand the debit. You understand this stuff. It's really
basic stuff. And so and this idea that we can
just keep spending and spending and spending, it's going to
catch up with this. Look at interest rates, Look at
look at mortgage rates right now, right over seven percent?
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Yes, how do these people? How do how do you
young people?
Speaker 12 (34:44):
With the debt they're they're finished up with school, with
medical bills, with house costs, with interest rates the interest
rates are what on credit cards the highest ever? I
mean this stuff's all caused by government spending. So could
you balance a budget?
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:59):
If you you said you're going to balance about you
can balance it in a year.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And who do you think should be in the conversation
for Senate majority leader?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
If control?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well I might be running now.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
And have you heard that? Yeah? So here's here's a perception.
Speaker 12 (35:13):
Okay, So do you think we should operate as a
dictatorship or a leadership?
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (35:18):
Are we in big businesses? I had tuned eighty five
thousand ployts. Do you think I just said here's what
I'm gonna tell all tuna five that eighty five thousand
of you every day, what.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
You're going to do? No, you can't.
Speaker 12 (35:27):
You build a team and you listen to your team.
That's what the Senate should work. But there's been two dictatorships.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
In the Senate.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
They're on the Republican side. There's been the mccougue dictatorship
and the Democratic Schumer dictatorship. That doesn't work. We're not
fixing problems, and so what we got to do is
we've got to say, how do we manage yourselves? We
have term limits for the leader, so nobody has that
much power, and we're next bills want to go through committee.
How shocked we're not putting bills through committee.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
No, it's all right.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We're just coming up to close here. I think that'd
be fascinating. We may be with the former I'm sorry,
the future, not former future centate.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Exciting.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, and everybody out there in Florida get ready to
get your votes in. By the way, we got a
bunch of your colleagues coming on. Marsha Blackburn's going to
join us. Top of the next hour. You mentioned Tim
Sheehey hopefully going to be the next Senator from Montana.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
He's going to be with us.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Also, Alena Haba, Lee Zelden, maybe a candidate down the road.
Absolutely packed final hour, Senator good luck. What what would
you tell people who are listening in Florida they can
do for you?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Vote?
Speaker 12 (36:24):
Okay, get all your friends to vote, and go out
and be a pull watch if you want to make
sure elections fair.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Amen, And if you're going to move to Florida to
make sure you're a Republican, I'm just I agree with that.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, there we go, Thanks Edner, Good to see me.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Ta
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