August 10, 2024 • 36 mins
JD Vance tees off on Tim Walz. Tim Walz says it's mostly "rocks and cows" in red states. Columnist, author and C&B Podcast Network host Karol Markowicz discusses with Clay and Buck Kamala Harris caving to the left’s anti-Semites by passing over Josh Shapiro. Caller whose building was allowed to burn down in Minnesota riots.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now. Thanks
for being here, everybody, and we have.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Been talking about the big news of Kamala Harris's vice
presidential pick.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Tim Waaltz.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
News broke a shock to a lot of people, be
honest with you, after that Shapiro video promoting Shapiro and
Harris on a ticket was leaked, and after all the
talk about rocket Man Mark Kelly and the possibilities there
and even more even Basher, Even Basher, I think was
(00:34):
an interesting possibility for them, A you know, presentable and
articulate democrat from a red state still don't know what
can talk. I mean, Clay and I talked about this
all the time, and I think it hits home more
for Clay than me because he's right next door Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What is going on with this? Bsher guy, what are
you doing with this? The mass Democrat? It's just it's
it's silly, It's just silly.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But jd Vance is now the the opponent of Tim Waltz.
I assume there'll be a vice presidential debate. Have we
seen any headlines about this one yet? I think that
that is going to have to be scheduled.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I mean that seems.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I say, I assume because given the ninety days until
election day, you know the timelines here, We've never seen
this before.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Everything is different now.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What is traditional isn't necessarily what will happen given what
we have seen. But jd Vance knows that Tim Waltz
is a progressive, a leftist, a socialist, a guy who
all of the policies that we rail against regularly on
this show. I think it's fair to say Tim Waltz
(01:43):
is a supporter of them, whether it's the most extreme
pro abortion position to the most extreme pro criminal BLM
worshiping position.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean, you go down the list.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I can't think of anything that I've seen that this
guy stands for Clay when it comes to making a
decision for or against where I go.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay, at least he got that one right.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This is like with Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't agree with Fetterman a lot, but I think
he's sound on Israel and he's even said some intelligent
stuff about the border too.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
At least he.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Got that one right. I haven't seen anything from Walls
to suggest that he's anything other than the most dogmatic
left wing progressive and Jade Vance certainly sees it too.
This is cut thirty one. Here he is just laying
out the case against kamalas VP.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Here's the thing about Tim falls.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Look, Tim Walls is a guy who.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Wants to take children away from their parents if the
parents don't agree to do sex changes in the school,
wants too.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's crazy, right, a fundamental violation printal rights. This is
a guy who, when rioters were burning down the biggest
city in Minnesota, was actively cheering them on. You think
the black business leaders in Minneapolis are grateful the working
class visit this leaders are grateful that Tim Waltz allowed
rioters to burn down their businesses. You think that people
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are grateful to have a guy who wants to ship
manufacturing jobs off to China. There's no way the American
people are going to buy it. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think that's right. I don't think he's overstating it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think Tim Wats is a huge swing and a
miss for the Democrat ticket.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No doubt.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
And also I think we have another JD vance clip
where he says on the airplane right after it was
announced that this is them doubling down on the BLM.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Riots of twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
This to me, Buck is when I immediately think Minnesota,
I think, sorry, sorry for everybody at Minnesota. Man, they
never win anything in sports. That's my first thought. I'm sorry.
So many Mieapolis listeners, how dare you?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I hate?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
They know what I'm talking about. They haven't won a
title since the Twins. They have four different big teams.
I just i'mjecked. I'm off in my corner here Clay's
gone rogue.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
That's the first thing I think about when I think
about Minnesota. Oh, they have a lot of teams and
they always lose. Second thing that I think is unfortunately,
and this is more serious. I think about the Minneapolis
riots and for Kamala Harris to have bailed out the rioters,
and for Tim Waltz to have refused to call out
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the state National Guard and end the riots that led
to police precincts being burned down, that led to.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
A what is it?
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I think team looked this up. I think murders tripled
in Minneapolis because so many police officers quit because the
State of Minnesota did not have their back. This is
the guy who was in charge, then, this is the
guy that you want to double down on. Listen to
cut thirty one. Is that the cut we just played?
(04:58):
Maybe that's the cut we just played. There's more more
than one. Twenty eight twenty eight is jd Vance on
the plane directly addressing this, which I think for a
lot of people is what they think about when they
hear Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It just highlights how radical Kamala Harris is. This is
a person who listened to the Hamas wing of her
own party and selecting a nominee. This is a guy
who's proposed shipping more manufacturing jobs to China, who wants
to make the American people more reliant on garbage energy
instead of good American energy, and has proposed defunding the police,
just as Kamala Harris does.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Actually they make an interesting tag team because of course
Tim Waltz allowed rioters to burn down Minneapolis in the
summer of twenty twenty, and then the few who got caught,
Kamala Harris helped fail them out of jail. So it
is more instructive for what it says about Kamala Harris
that she doesn't care about the border, she doesn't care
about crime, she doesn't care about American energy, and most importantly,
she doesn't care about the Americans who have been made
(05:52):
to suffer under those policies.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
That is a really good tour to force there. I
love the idea of this is the tag team that
believed that Minneapolis should burn and that if it did burn,
the people who were doing the burning should get bailed out.
I think that's a great line. I think it connects.
I actually think it really hurts in the Midwest, which
is where people are going to be making these decisions.
(06:14):
This is I think a devastating own goal by Kamala
Harris in this selection.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Objectively, to the degree that anything in politics can be objective.
If you are a moderate, if you are an undecided voter,
the Kamala Harris Walltz ticket should be kryptonite to you.
There is nothing moderate about either one of these individuals.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
On any issue.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean, that's it's not with Biden that you had
a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
His longevity in.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Politics just sort of meant that he had taken so
many positions over such a long period of time. As
we talked about it, the crime Bill in the nineties,
you know, trying to run away from it. But Republicans
should have just been saying, well, actually that was the
right idea, Like when you've been yes, and he was
part of the Democrat Party transforming from a well, I
mean from being a center left party to being a
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far left party.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I mean that has he's been through that whole process.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So he could always point to, oh, well, you know
back in the eighties when Democrats like didn't all hate America.
You know, this is what I said, do you know
what I mean? He was able to He was able
to have it both ways because he had been in
the game so long that he had taken, you know,
every position Democrats had ever taken on everything. With Kamala
and Waltz or Harris and Waltz.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Don't want to just call it, what's wrong with Coliner
myn first name, uh.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
With Harrison Walls, there is no ground, there's no ability
to make a moderate argument. They are not moderates. There's
nothing about them that's modern. There's nothing about them that
points to this. And even when people talk about Cop
Kamala and how she was hard on crime in San Francisco,
that's not true. It's not even accurate. For a period
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of time, it may have been politically advantageous to her
as DA to crack down on some drug crimes, but
then she totally flipped on all that as state attorney
general and was one of the people pushing for you
can steal up to nine hundred dollars, which effectively means
you can steal whatever you want, because guess what, they're
not scanning and counting whether something adds up to nine
hundred dollars when you fill your arms full of stuff
(08:21):
at a Neiman Marcus.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know what I'm saying like this is that there
is no moderate.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Argument for the The media is just going to have
to lie and lie and lie and lie. It is
impossible to claim this is a moderate Democrat ticket in
any stretch of the imagination, which is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Again why Shapiro would Shapiro is less communist?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Mark Kelly, I mean, this was a disaster pick. Yesterday.
I was not optimistic because I thought Kamala is going
to get a VP bounce, She's gonna pick Shapiro, and
then they're going to roll into the convention and by
September she's going to buy Labor Day, She's going to
have the lead. I don't think that's true. Now, I
think that this is it anything actually going to hurt her.
(09:02):
It's the opposite of a bounce, whatever, a recession, whatever
the opposite of a VP bounce would be. And I
gotta tell you, they got to clip this. The Trump
team does that line. They make an interesting tag team
because Tim Waltz allowed rioters to burn down Minneapolis in
the summer of twenty twenty, and the few that got caught,
Kamala Harris helped bail them out of jail. Jd Vance
(09:26):
Scott Wagner, smart guy, texted me earlier today that they
should have ads saying make America burn again, Kamala Waltz
because to me, again leaving aside my maybe a bit
unfair attack on Minneapolis never winning anything in sports, when
I think about Minnesota, I think about the failure of
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people to be protected in that state during twenty twenty.
I think a lot of people out there think the
same thing. This is something to lean in on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I mean, next time you're going to go fishing for
some muskies and some walleye, you better stay out of
the Land of ten Thousand Lakes, mister Clay Travis.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I think there's a huge percentage of Minnesota's listening to
us right now. When I said that, they dropped their
head in silent and they won't even put up a.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Fight on it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, they're like basketball fans in New York. You're just
you just had to be like the next the worst.
I just got a franchise of the last thirty years.
It's just true. You just got to take it. I
mean the Twins.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
The Twins lost like seven hundred and sixty four consecutive games.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Captain wampwomp over here with the sports now too.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I just know the is inevitably shank a field goal
anytime they have a chance to win something that matters. Fuck,
that's a great stat you know. I'm sorry for Martin
Anderson out there. I believe it was Morton Anderson. Guy
didn't miss a field goal the whole season, had a
chance to put the Vikings in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Miss the field goal.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Clay, you were just joy riding in the wreckage of
Vikings fans dreams right now. Okay, you know we were
trying to get them all motivated to go to the
polls and defeat this communist that their governor is now
going to be vice president.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I just I cannot believe this is a gift. I
don't know who's advising Kamala Harris, but she made the
worst VP pick. I'm trying to think of a VP
pick that I would look at and I would say, oh,
my goodness, like this is.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I think Tim Kaine for Hillary was really weak. And
I do think people are already making this comparison between
Waltz and Cain. They're both just kind.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Of land old white guys, lumpin proletariat, old white guy socialists,
nothing impressive, nothing, no charisma. I think with Hillary, at
least you could say that choice was a I'm winning,
I don't want to rock the boat and make a
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choice that hurts me. It was sort of a blandly
inoffensive choice to me. If you're behind, and I think
Kamala is the last thing you want to do with
your VP is make it harder for you and reinforce
the things that people didn't like about the choices you've made.
I mean, I would have taken Waltz off the board,
and I thought surely she would have just based off
(12:09):
the fact that she raised money for the rioters buck.
I would have said, the last thing I want to
do is reinforce my defund the police screw up and
the fact that I raised money. I mean, think about
how critical people are of Trump for simply saying he
would pardon the January sixth some of them rioters that
have been that have been convicted, Kamala.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Bailed them out.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
She was raising money to never hold them accountable in
any way for the crimes that they committed.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And you know, they really were hurting physically. First of all,
A lot of those rioters hurt cops. They hit them
with rocks, they threw bottles, they threw bottles of urine
at them. I talked about this a lot of the time, Clay.
Some of these BLM rioters at a federal courthouse in
Portland were trying to shine lasers in the eyes of officers,
hoping that they would they would damage their sight and
blind them. I said, if someone told me I'm trying
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to you, I mean, I think you're allowed to use
I think you're allowed to use extreme physical.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Force to stop that from happening. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If someone's like, oh, I'm just going to blind you,
I think I should be allowed to shoot at you,
I'm just going to say it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
If someone really thinks that they can blind me. I mean,
those lasers can do damage your eyes. It's harder for
them to actually blind you, from what I understand, But
just think about the mentality I'm going to blind these
cops and these people are psychopaths, and they're all Democrat
based voters. What us up prize to absolutely nobody. I
think that they were doing horrible things. And when they
destroy these businesses. Ask somebody who has had a house
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burned down or a business burned down what it's like
dealing with insurance. I actually just went through this with
a friend of mine recently. Was explaining it is a nightmare.
Insurance company doesn't want to write you a check, and
they want to write you the smallest check possible, and
they're going to deduct any kind of expenses they can.
I mean, it's you know, if you think that your
business is worth two million dollars, you're lucky. If you
get a check at the end for eight hundred grand,
you know it's it's and you know then you've got
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expenses that you have to pay and all kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So they ruined people's lives and for what For what?
Because of George Floyd?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because a drug addict died of a combination of physical
compression and heart attack because it was high on fentanyl. Really,
that means you burned down a neighborhood. Where was the
stern speech from Waltz about that one. Where was the Hey,
this is not who we are as a people, as Americans.
We don't burn down neighborhoods. The cop ended up going
to prison for twenty five years, His life is destroyed.
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We could have a whole other conversation as to whether
that's fair. By the way, I don't believe it is.
But still Tim Waltz is in favor of all this stuff,
and now we're gonna make Vice President Kamalo is bailing
them out of me Clay unforgivable stuff, unforgivable stuff.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I just can't believe that they reinforced this, which is
why I'm stunned beyond belief that they made this choice.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, I think it's absolute utter madness, and it's just
it's horrific as this continues play out in this way.
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Speaker 6 (16:34):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I want to play
for you a quick clip. Tim Waldt's supposed to appeal
to the red state areas of America. This is what
he thinks about red state areas. It's mostly rocks and cows.
This is your new VP nominee for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh you see those maps red and blue, and there's
all that red across there.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Democrats go into depression over it. It's mostly rocks and
cows that are in that red area.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Well, mostly rocks and cows in that red area.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For example, Texas, which is the second most populous state
in the entire country, or Florida, which is the third
most populous state in the entire Just rocks and cows. No,
no people, And not to mention all the other red
What do you have now, like six million in Tennessee
eight million in Tennessee seven million?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I think now, yeah, it's a decent, decent red state.
By the way, one bit of clarification, it was Gary
Anderson that missed the field goal to ruin Viking fans
hopes of going to the Super Bowl, not Morten Anderson.
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very much of a big fan. As we're rolling in here.
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
This is awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And also, I've never met a mom out there who
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you got to check out the Carol Podcast. Carol, we
got a lot to talk to about today. Welcome as always, Clayton.
I love getting a chance to talk to you. Haven't
seen you since Florida. Clay was Yeah, Clay was enjoying
all that Florida freedom, although it's free in Tennessee too,
but he knows Florida's got something special going on. He
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won't admit that, but it's just true now, although no,
he owns a house in Florida, so he does admit it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's fine. Let's start with this.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Is it really just pure anti semitism that kept Shapiro
off the VP ticket and made it waltz?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Is that really what's going on? Or are we missing something?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
So? I think it is, and I'll tell you this.
I was very worried that she would pick Joshapiro, and
that would be a strong pick. He seems like he's
got it all going on in the Democratic Party right now,
and she needs to win Pennsylvania Donald trumpet when Pennsylvania
it's a very competitive state. Having a popular governor who
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doesn't say crazy things, doesn't do crazy things would have
been a plus for a ticket. So I was very
worried that she was going to pick him. But the
anti Semitic left made that easy for me because they
basically pressured the Kamala Harris campaign into not choosing him,
and so instead she went with Tim Walls, who was
an absent governor during the BLM riots. He let his
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cities burn, His daughter let the protesters know when the
National Guard was going to be on duty based on
what information she had from within her dad's office. I mean,
this is a radical left pick. So yeah, a lot
of Jews are feeling uncomfortable with where the Democrats are.
But it shouldn't be just Jews. The Americans should be uncomfortable.
She picked someone far left, and this is the ticket
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that they're going to ride into November. This is the
next president and vice president.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
We're all in trouble, Carol.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
We've been talking for months now about whether this rising
tide of anti semitism on the left, characterized by college
campus protests by the squad inside of the Democrat Party itself,
would force some Jewish voters to recalibrate their election decisions.
I'm curious how you would analyze this. But one data
point that's out today in the New New York Times
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poll of the state of New York, which has Kamala
Harris winning New York by fourteen points, which would be
nine points less than Biden wanted in twenty twenty, Trump
is actually winning Jewish voters by one point. I believe
it's fifty to forty nine, if I'm not mistaken or
something along that.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I'm curious if you saw that.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Do you think New York is emblematic of how Jewish
voters might vote nationwide or is it a bit of
a different animal.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
Well, I'll tell you. If they're getting that those kinds
of numbers in New York, I think it'll be higher elsewhere.
So Trump got thirty percent of the Jewish vote nationally
in twenty twenty, but he got like thirty four percent
in places like Florida. And really, what we're looking at,
and it's not enough data points from twenty twenty, is
the Pennsylvania Jewish vote, because that could really move the needle.
A lot of people are very concerned about the Pennsylvania
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Jewish vote on the left, and they should be because
look what just happened. Look how she rejected the Jewish governor.
But that's really where the numbers are going to be.
I think New York is a more less leaning Jewish voter,
even considering the large Orthodox population. So if he's winning
in New York, I think that that number will be
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higher in places like, for example, Florida. And so we'll
see my thing was, these things happen slowly. I think
the Jewish vote is moving rightward, and it has been
for the last few years. I think the Jewish vote
on Long Island made a difference in the midterm elections.
I think that the Republicans picked up seats because of
that Jewish vote. It's happening, it's happening slowly. I set
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the number at thirty eight percent. My good friend Josh
Hammerd thinks is maybe about forty nationally. If a go
above that, that'll be a a real sea change, and
it won't just be for one election.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
By the way, if you're right, that would be roughly
an eight point improvement or ten point improvement. That's a
pretty seismic difference in terms of how the Jewish vote
would break if you're right that it goes from seventy
thirty to sixty forty exactly.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
And the thing is that, you know, if that happened,
then you do count on things like the Pennsylvania Jewish
vote winning Pennsylvania for Donald Trump. Even though it's a
small percentage, it's enough to move the needle. And so
you have that in certain places where that could really
make a difference. It can make or break the campaign
for him. So obviously I am a life long conservative.
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I have always hoped that Jews wake up and vote
Republican because that's clearly what benefits them. No, forget about Israel,
but if it benefits us in America, the Republican Party
is more apt to protect us and more app to
let us protect ourselves, which is really important to me.
So I hope the Jews wake up and do the
right thing in November.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Now, Carol or speaking of Carol mark it's just reminding
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Speaker 1 (24:04):
She does great stuff. Also a fantastic columnist.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And my mom gets excited every time I get to
hang out with Carol because she's a huge Carol fan. So, Cli,
do you have this too. We're like family members in
our business. They're never you know, they're family. They're never
excited to like hang out with us because whatever. But
it's like, oh, you hang out with like Carol Markwitz
or like oh Jesse Kelly is so funny, and you're like, yeah,
I'm okay too, right Anyway, true story, true story for
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mar A Lago. By the way, since I'm going to
this digression, Trump Trump sees me, sees Carol, he brings
us over are he's sitting at his table.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
He wants choveleis a little bit and he's like, he's like,
he's like Buck, He's like, you're doing great work. You're
doing great Carol, better than you, but you're still doing
great work. Just like that. So anyway, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But yeah, but Carol jd Vance, all the woman commentary
around jd Vance?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Is it a problem? Is it? Is it fair to him?
Is it just no? Where do you come down on that.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
I think that most of the people who had a
problem with what he was saying, we're never going to
vote for the Trump Vance ticket, and they shouldn't spend
too much time trying to, you know, recoup those people.
But look, it hurts some feelings of women on the
right who maybe want to be married but aren't and
don't enjoy being called, you know, childless cat ladies. And
I get that. I really do understand that, and I
(25:22):
feel for those people. So what I would say is
that Trump Dvance campaign should focus on women's issues, and
that are the same issues as men's issues. We care
about the border, we care about crime, we care about
affording groceries, you know, at the store. So these are
all issues that cater to men and women, and that's
what they should focus on. Was Advanced wrong in saying
(25:44):
that a society that's not having children doesn't care about
the future. No, I worry about that, for example with Britain.
Britain seems kind of a drift and not really focused
on the future. And I blame a lot of that
on the fact that so many people don't have kids
and therefore don't have this on what the future of
the country will look like, because why would it really matter?
So I get what he was saying in the macro.
(26:06):
He should have been kinder and maybe gentler about it
in the micro That's really the point here that when
you talk to women you kind of have to use
a little bit of a different tone. But it was
you wrong, though he wasn't wrong, And I don't think
they should spend another minute talking about this.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Carol, we're sitting here on I got to make sure
I get the date right, August sixth. If you were
setting odds, how confident are you that Trump wins?
Speaker 9 (26:30):
I am such a doomsday person. I don't know, you know,
I was. I was somebody that worried a lot that
they were going to drag Joe Biden across that finish line.
And I feel better with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
In fact, I believe you also owe Sorry to cut
you off, but you mistake.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
I was so right for so long. It's like, you know, somebody,
somebody said, it's like taking me under and in a
sport game.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I was.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
I was right right up until I wasn't. But you know,
I think that it's I think we don't live in
a country that alecs Kamala Harris far leftist with her
far left VP nominee. I really believe in US, so
I imagine that Trump has to pull it out. I
think some things need to break his way. I think
that his trials kind of need to be in the background,
(27:18):
and I know the Temocrats will push him to the foreground.
But do we live in a country where President Kamala
Harris is inaugurated in January? I just I hope not.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm with Carol on this one, man. It's just at
that point, what what is America? If the Harris wall
walls walls apparently We've been told.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Not Wals whatever his name is, whatever his name is.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I saw somebody you'll appreciate this, Carrol, Communists, go ahead,
I was saying. I saw some people saying, this is
the most difficult apostrophe combo in presidential ticket history, with
Harris and Waltz, Walls, whatever the guy's name is, this
is I agree. I think it's an unmitigated disaster. If
it's possible that they can get elected, they are, legitimately,
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I think, the farthest left wing ticket in American political history.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I don't think that's hyperbole.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
That's right. And look, you know we buckled down in Florida.
If that happens and we start a revolution of our
own right.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Red states, I would say, well, I'm in a red
state now in Tennessee. But I would say that a
lot of people would respond by moving to red states
because I do think there are people fed up with
the federal level who say, Okay, I want to move
to a red state and make sure that at least
I'm protected there. Ron de Santis actually shared on X
(28:38):
Carol that you probably saw this that when it comes
to Minnesota and Florida, a Minnesota is five times as
likely to permanently move to Florida as a Floridian is
to move to Minnesota. Not surprising, but still, I mean,
that's a tough move to go Florida into Minnesota. I mean,
I don't know very many people are like, hey, I'm
going to give up warm weather all year round.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I want to freeze my ass off.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It would take a while to sell all your flip
flops on eBay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's not great. Yes, So that's a tough transition. Carol,
Thank you so much, everybody. Thanks Carol, great to talk
to you.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
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It is waiting for you to download and listen and
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Indeed, and it is one of the most amusing parts
of my job. When I am called upon to be
the dean in the high school who's supposed to give
Clay detention of people like Clay, Kid, you need to
tell Clay or Clay's not aloud. But then this one's
just sort of funny. Jeff on x Right's the following
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grace for it. Clay Clay's Minnesota analysis is absurd. Remind
him that his beloved Valls have been irrelevant since the nineties.
I'm not necessarily a fan of Minnesota, but Vikings and
Twins record aren't what comes to mind. Very he's going
after your Valls on this one. I'm just saying he's
trying to take it right into your kitchen.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I would just say the University of Tennessee just won
the College World Series like six weeks ago. So Tennessee
is a state of champions, unlike Minnesota, which loses in everything. Again,
not trying to pick on Minnesotans, but you do lose
in everything all the time. You're the worst winning city.
(33:34):
And I say this with sympathy that has a Pro hockey,
a Pro baseball, a pro football, and a pro what's
the other one out there? Pro basketball? You never win
anything since the nineties, since Kent hurt, since Kent Irbek
pulled the Atlanta Braves off third base, and you managed
to win a seven game series. I think in like
(33:55):
ninety one, your losers and everything.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Just before one for three every one, and Clay is
going a little too fast in the accelerator and you
asked me to ask him to slow it down a
little bit, then we're definitely.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Going to break the speed limit. Okay I am.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I am going to drive as fast as Minnesota Governor
Tim Waltz did when he was arrested. Unlike him, I'm
not going to have a DUI ninety six and a
fifty five. With a DUI, I might get pulled over
for speeding, but so far in my life I've never
been pulled over for a dui. This is from by
the way, We have a call Rachelle in Colorado. You
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said that your your father's building was the first one
the mob burned down in Minneapolis.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Yes, that's correct. When it was right across from the
third Precinct and my brother called and said, turn on
Fox News. They're burning our buildings. And so they let
it burn to the ground.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
And what was the sorry, what was the business? What
was your father running in that business?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
It was an AutoZone store, okay, and so that was
our tenant. He built that building in nineteen sixty seven,
and when he passed away, my family inherited that building.
And so that was right across from the third Precinct
where everyone was gathering, and they turned around and they
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had the footage of a guy, a guy with a
big gas mask on and a vaulting hammer, and he
walked across all our blake glass windows and punched holes
in him broke them. And then someone came behind him
and threw accelerant in there, and it burns so hot
it even burns.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Did anybody do anything to those people who burned down
your dad's building?
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Nope? Nothing, And what was it?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What was it like in terms of dealing with insurance,
were they just happy to be on the spot, write
you a check for the full value, no problems.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah yeah, But we did rebuild the building and autosone
came back. They are a tenant, but it took you know,
two years and a lot of work to do it,
and a lot of money for us as well. And
the next day my brother was down there and there
was a police car sitting on the corner and he
went and talked to the guy and he said, you know,
(36:09):
we could have stopped the Third Precinct from being burned
and your building, but we were told not to do anything.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Long, yeah, but we need people like you to speak out,
by the way, so please, like Clay, we need everybody
who was affected by that because the GOP needs to
sit down with you and video this.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Uh so you know, we got to I don't know
how we round up everybody.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Laura Ingram came from Fox News and interviewed my brother.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
So that's okay, good, good, good stories told widely, for sure.
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now. Thanks
for being here, everybody, and we have.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Been talking about the big news of Kamala Harris's vice
presidential pick.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Tim Waaltz.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
News broke a shock to a lot of people, be
honest with you, after that Shapiro video promoting Shapiro and
Harris on a ticket was leaked, and after all the
talk about rocket Man Mark Kelly and the possibilities there
and even more even Basher, Even Basher, I think was
(00:34):
an interesting possibility for them, A you know, presentable and
articulate democrat from a red state still don't know what
can talk. I mean, Clay and I talked about this
all the time, and I think it hits home more
for Clay than me because he's right next door Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What is going on with this? Bsher guy, what are
you doing with this? The mass Democrat? It's just it's
it's silly, It's just silly.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
But jd Vance is now the the opponent of Tim Waltz.
I assume there'll be a vice presidential debate. Have we
seen any headlines about this one yet? I think that
that is going to have to be scheduled.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I mean that seems.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I say, I assume because given the ninety days until
election day, you know the timelines here, We've never seen
this before.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Everything is different now.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What is traditional isn't necessarily what will happen given what
we have seen. But jd Vance knows that Tim Waltz
is a progressive, a leftist, a socialist, a guy who
all of the policies that we rail against regularly on
this show. I think it's fair to say Tim Waltz
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is a supporter of them, whether it's the most extreme
pro abortion position to the most extreme pro criminal BLM
worshiping position.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I mean, you go down the list.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I can't think of anything that I've seen that this
guy stands for Clay when it comes to making a
decision for or against where I go.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay, at least he got that one right.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This is like with Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't agree with Fetterman a lot, but I think
he's sound on Israel and he's even said some intelligent
stuff about the border too.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
At least he.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Got that one right. I haven't seen anything from Walls
to suggest that he's anything other than the most dogmatic
left wing progressive and Jade Vance certainly sees it too.
This is cut thirty one. Here he is just laying
out the case against kamalas VP.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Here's the thing about Tim falls.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Look, Tim Walls is a guy who.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Wants to take children away from their parents if the
parents don't agree to do sex changes in the school,
wants too.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
That's crazy, right, a fundamental violation printal rights. This is
a guy who, when rioters were burning down the biggest
city in Minnesota, was actively cheering them on. You think
the black business leaders in Minneapolis are grateful the working
class visit this leaders are grateful that Tim Waltz allowed
rioters to burn down their businesses. You think that people
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are grateful to have a guy who wants to ship
manufacturing jobs off to China. There's no way the American
people are going to buy it. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think that's right. I don't think he's overstating it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think Tim Wats is a huge swing and a
miss for the Democrat ticket.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No doubt.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
And also I think we have another JD vance clip
where he says on the airplane right after it was
announced that this is them doubling down on the BLM.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Riots of twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
This to me, Buck is when I immediately think Minnesota,
I think, sorry, sorry for everybody at Minnesota. Man, they
never win anything in sports. That's my first thought. I'm sorry.
So many Mieapolis listeners, how dare you?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I hate?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
They know what I'm talking about. They haven't won a
title since the Twins. They have four different big teams.
I just i'mjecked. I'm off in my corner here Clay's
gone rogue.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
That's the first thing I think about when I think
about Minnesota. Oh, they have a lot of teams and
they always lose. Second thing that I think is unfortunately,
and this is more serious. I think about the Minneapolis
riots and for Kamala Harris to have bailed out the rioters,
and for Tim Waltz to have refused to call out
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the state National Guard and end the riots that led
to police precincts being burned down, that led to.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
A what is it?
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I think team looked this up. I think murders tripled
in Minneapolis because so many police officers quit because the
State of Minnesota did not have their back. This is
the guy who was in charge, then, this is the
guy that you want to double down on. Listen to
cut thirty one. Is that the cut we just played?
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Maybe that's the cut we just played. There's more more
than one. Twenty eight twenty eight is jd Vance on
the plane directly addressing this, which I think for a
lot of people is what they think about when they
hear Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It just highlights how radical Kamala Harris is. This is
a person who listened to the Hamas wing of her
own party and selecting a nominee. This is a guy
who's proposed shipping more manufacturing jobs to China, who wants
to make the American people more reliant on garbage energy
instead of good American energy, and has proposed defunding the police,
just as Kamala Harris does.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Actually they make an interesting tag team because of course
Tim Waltz allowed rioters to burn down Minneapolis in the
summer of twenty twenty, and then the few who got caught,
Kamala Harris helped fail them out of jail. So it
is more instructive for what it says about Kamala Harris
that she doesn't care about the border, she doesn't care
about crime, she doesn't care about American energy, and most importantly,
she doesn't care about the Americans who have been made
(05:52):
to suffer under those policies.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
That is a really good tour to force there. I
love the idea of this is the tag team that
believed that Minneapolis should burn and that if it did burn,
the people who were doing the burning should get bailed out.
I think that's a great line. I think it connects.
I actually think it really hurts in the Midwest, which
is where people are going to be making these decisions.
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This is I think a devastating own goal by Kamala
Harris in this selection.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Objectively, to the degree that anything in politics can be objective.
If you are a moderate, if you are an undecided voter,
the Kamala Harris Walltz ticket should be kryptonite to you.
There is nothing moderate about either one of these individuals.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
On any issue.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean, that's it's not with Biden that you had
a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
His longevity in.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Politics just sort of meant that he had taken so
many positions over such a long period of time. As
we talked about it, the crime Bill in the nineties,
you know, trying to run away from it. But Republicans
should have just been saying, well, actually that was the
right idea, Like when you've been yes, and he was
part of the Democrat Party transforming from a well, I
mean from being a center left party to being a
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far left party.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I mean that has he's been through that whole process.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So he could always point to, oh, well, you know
back in the eighties when Democrats like didn't all hate America.
You know, this is what I said, do you know
what I mean? He was able to He was able
to have it both ways because he had been in
the game so long that he had taken, you know,
every position Democrats had ever taken on everything. With Kamala
and Waltz or Harris and Waltz.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Don't want to just call it, what's wrong with Coliner
myn first name, uh.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
With Harrison Walls, there is no ground, there's no ability
to make a moderate argument. They are not moderates. There's
nothing about them that's modern. There's nothing about them that
points to this. And even when people talk about Cop
Kamala and how she was hard on crime in San Francisco,
that's not true. It's not even accurate. For a period
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of time, it may have been politically advantageous to her
as DA to crack down on some drug crimes, but
then she totally flipped on all that as state attorney
general and was one of the people pushing for you
can steal up to nine hundred dollars, which effectively means
you can steal whatever you want, because guess what, they're
not scanning and counting whether something adds up to nine
hundred dollars when you fill your arms full of stuff
(08:21):
at a Neiman Marcus.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know what I'm saying like this is that there
is no moderate.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Argument for the The media is just going to have
to lie and lie and lie and lie. It is
impossible to claim this is a moderate Democrat ticket in
any stretch of the imagination, which is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Again why Shapiro would Shapiro is less communist?
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Mark Kelly, I mean, this was a disaster pick. Yesterday.
I was not optimistic because I thought Kamala is going
to get a VP bounce, She's gonna pick Shapiro, and
then they're going to roll into the convention and by
September she's going to buy Labor Day, She's going to
have the lead. I don't think that's true. Now, I
think that this is it anything actually going to hurt her.
(09:02):
It's the opposite of a bounce, whatever, a recession, whatever
the opposite of a VP bounce would be. And I
gotta tell you, they got to clip this. The Trump
team does that line. They make an interesting tag team
because Tim Waltz allowed rioters to burn down Minneapolis in
the summer of twenty twenty, and the few that got caught,
Kamala Harris helped bail them out of jail. Jd Vance
(09:26):
Scott Wagner, smart guy, texted me earlier today that they
should have ads saying make America burn again, Kamala Waltz
because to me, again leaving aside my maybe a bit
unfair attack on Minneapolis never winning anything in sports, when
I think about Minnesota, I think about the failure of
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people to be protected in that state during twenty twenty.
I think a lot of people out there think the
same thing. This is something to lean in on.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I mean, next time you're going to go fishing for
some muskies and some walleye, you better stay out of
the Land of ten Thousand Lakes, mister Clay Travis.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
I think there's a huge percentage of Minnesota's listening to
us right now. When I said that, they dropped their
head in silent and they won't even put up a.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Fight on it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, they're like basketball fans in New York. You're just
you just had to be like the next the worst.
I just got a franchise of the last thirty years.
It's just true. You just got to take it. I
mean the Twins.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
The Twins lost like seven hundred and sixty four consecutive games.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Captain wampwomp over here with the sports now too.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I just know the is inevitably shank a field goal
anytime they have a chance to win something that matters. Fuck,
that's a great stat you know. I'm sorry for Martin
Anderson out there. I believe it was Morton Anderson. Guy
didn't miss a field goal the whole season, had a
chance to put the Vikings in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Miss the field goal.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Clay, you were just joy riding in the wreckage of
Vikings fans dreams right now. Okay, you know we were
trying to get them all motivated to go to the
polls and defeat this communist that their governor is now
going to be vice president.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I just I cannot believe this is a gift. I
don't know who's advising Kamala Harris, but she made the
worst VP pick. I'm trying to think of a VP
pick that I would look at and I would say, oh,
my goodness, like this is.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I think Tim Kaine for Hillary was really weak. And
I do think people are already making this comparison between
Waltz and Cain. They're both just kind.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Of land old white guys, lumpin proletariat, old white guy socialists,
nothing impressive, nothing, no charisma. I think with Hillary, at
least you could say that choice was a I'm winning,
I don't want to rock the boat and make a
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choice that hurts me. It was sort of a blandly
inoffensive choice to me. If you're behind, and I think
Kamala is the last thing you want to do with
your VP is make it harder for you and reinforce
the things that people didn't like about the choices you've made.
I mean, I would have taken Waltz off the board,
and I thought surely she would have just based off
(12:09):
the fact that she raised money for the rioters buck.
I would have said, the last thing I want to
do is reinforce my defund the police screw up and
the fact that I raised money. I mean, think about
how critical people are of Trump for simply saying he
would pardon the January sixth some of them rioters that
have been that have been convicted, Kamala.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Bailed them out.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
She was raising money to never hold them accountable in
any way for the crimes that they committed.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And you know, they really were hurting physically. First of all,
A lot of those rioters hurt cops. They hit them
with rocks, they threw bottles, they threw bottles of urine
at them. I talked about this a lot of the time, Clay.
Some of these BLM rioters at a federal courthouse in
Portland were trying to shine lasers in the eyes of officers,
hoping that they would they would damage their sight and
blind them. I said, if someone told me I'm trying
(12:59):
to you, I mean, I think you're allowed to use
I think you're allowed to use extreme physical.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Force to stop that from happening. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
If someone's like, oh, I'm just going to blind you,
I think I should be allowed to shoot at you,
I'm just going to say it.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
If someone really thinks that they can blind me. I mean,
those lasers can do damage your eyes. It's harder for
them to actually blind you, from what I understand, But
just think about the mentality I'm going to blind these
cops and these people are psychopaths, and they're all Democrat
based voters. What us up prize to absolutely nobody. I
think that they were doing horrible things. And when they
destroy these businesses. Ask somebody who has had a house
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burned down or a business burned down what it's like
dealing with insurance. I actually just went through this with
a friend of mine recently. Was explaining it is a nightmare.
Insurance company doesn't want to write you a check, and
they want to write you the smallest check possible, and
they're going to deduct any kind of expenses they can.
I mean, it's you know, if you think that your
business is worth two million dollars, you're lucky. If you
get a check at the end for eight hundred grand,
you know it's it's and you know then you've got
(13:57):
expenses that you have to pay and all kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So they ruined people's lives and for what For what?
Because of George Floyd?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Because a drug addict died of a combination of physical
compression and heart attack because it was high on fentanyl. Really,
that means you burned down a neighborhood. Where was the
stern speech from Waltz about that one. Where was the Hey,
this is not who we are as a people, as Americans.
We don't burn down neighborhoods. The cop ended up going
to prison for twenty five years, His life is destroyed.
(14:28):
We could have a whole other conversation as to whether
that's fair. By the way, I don't believe it is.
But still Tim Waltz is in favor of all this stuff,
and now we're gonna make Vice President Kamalo is bailing
them out of me Clay unforgivable stuff, unforgivable stuff.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I just can't believe that they reinforced this, which is
why I'm stunned beyond belief that they made this choice.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, I think it's absolute utter madness, and it's just
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Speaker 6 (16:34):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I want to play
for you a quick clip. Tim Waldt's supposed to appeal
to the red state areas of America. This is what
he thinks about red state areas. It's mostly rocks and cows.
This is your new VP nominee for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh you see those maps red and blue, and there's
all that red across there.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Democrats go into depression over it. It's mostly rocks and
cows that are in that red area.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Well, mostly rocks and cows in that red area.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For example, Texas, which is the second most populous state
in the entire country, or Florida, which is the third
most populous state in the entire Just rocks and cows. No,
no people, And not to mention all the other red
What do you have now, like six million in Tennessee
eight million in Tennessee seven million?
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I think now, yeah, it's a decent, decent red state.
By the way, one bit of clarification, it was Gary
Anderson that missed the field goal to ruin Viking fans
hopes of going to the Super Bowl, not Morten Anderson.
He was actually the kicker on the other team. I
hear the correct was a big fan of Gary Anderson. Yes, yes,
very much of a big fan. As we're rolling in here.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got our friend
Carol Markowitz joining us now. She is the host of
the Carol Markowitz Show on the Clay Endbuck Network, which
is growing every month because the more of you that
listened to it, the more you know that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
This is awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And also, I've never met a mom out there who
didn't love Carol's work shoot, So for all the moms listening,
you got to check out the Carol Podcast. Carol, we
got a lot to talk to about today. Welcome as always, Clayton.
I love getting a chance to talk to you. Haven't
seen you since Florida. Clay was Yeah, Clay was enjoying
all that Florida freedom, although it's free in Tennessee too,
but he knows Florida's got something special going on. He
(19:27):
won't admit that, but it's just true now, although no,
he owns a house in Florida, so he does admit it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It's fine. Let's start with this.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Is it really just pure anti semitism that kept Shapiro
off the VP ticket and made it waltz?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Is that really what's going on? Or are we missing something?
Speaker 9 (19:45):
So? I think it is, and I'll tell you this.
I was very worried that she would pick Joshapiro, and
that would be a strong pick. He seems like he's
got it all going on in the Democratic Party right now,
and she needs to win Pennsylvania Donald trumpet when Pennsylvania
it's a very competitive state. Having a popular governor who
(20:07):
doesn't say crazy things, doesn't do crazy things would have
been a plus for a ticket. So I was very
worried that she was going to pick him. But the
anti Semitic left made that easy for me because they
basically pressured the Kamala Harris campaign into not choosing him,
and so instead she went with Tim Walls, who was
an absent governor during the BLM riots. He let his
(20:30):
cities burn, His daughter let the protesters know when the
National Guard was going to be on duty based on
what information she had from within her dad's office. I mean,
this is a radical left pick. So yeah, a lot
of Jews are feeling uncomfortable with where the Democrats are.
But it shouldn't be just Jews. The Americans should be uncomfortable.
She picked someone far left, and this is the ticket
(20:53):
that they're going to ride into November. This is the
next president and vice president.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
We're all in trouble, Carol.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
We've been talking for months now about whether this rising
tide of anti semitism on the left, characterized by college
campus protests by the squad inside of the Democrat Party itself,
would force some Jewish voters to recalibrate their election decisions.
I'm curious how you would analyze this. But one data
point that's out today in the New New York Times
(21:22):
poll of the state of New York, which has Kamala
Harris winning New York by fourteen points, which would be
nine points less than Biden wanted in twenty twenty, Trump
is actually winning Jewish voters by one point. I believe
it's fifty to forty nine, if I'm not mistaken or
something along that.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I'm curious if you saw that.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Do you think New York is emblematic of how Jewish
voters might vote nationwide or is it a bit of
a different animal.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
Well, I'll tell you. If they're getting that those kinds
of numbers in New York, I think it'll be higher elsewhere.
So Trump got thirty percent of the Jewish vote nationally
in twenty twenty, but he got like thirty four percent
in places like Florida. And really, what we're looking at,
and it's not enough data points from twenty twenty, is
the Pennsylvania Jewish vote, because that could really move the needle.
A lot of people are very concerned about the Pennsylvania
(22:10):
Jewish vote on the left, and they should be because
look what just happened. Look how she rejected the Jewish governor.
But that's really where the numbers are going to be.
I think New York is a more less leaning Jewish voter,
even considering the large Orthodox population. So if he's winning
in New York, I think that that number will be
(22:31):
higher in places like, for example, Florida. And so we'll
see my thing was, these things happen slowly. I think
the Jewish vote is moving rightward, and it has been
for the last few years. I think the Jewish vote
on Long Island made a difference in the midterm elections.
I think that the Republicans picked up seats because of
that Jewish vote. It's happening, it's happening slowly. I set
(22:52):
the number at thirty eight percent. My good friend Josh
Hammerd thinks is maybe about forty nationally. If a go
above that, that'll be a a real sea change, and
it won't just be for one election.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
By the way, if you're right, that would be roughly
an eight point improvement or ten point improvement. That's a
pretty seismic difference in terms of how the Jewish vote
would break if you're right that it goes from seventy
thirty to sixty forty exactly.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
And the thing is that, you know, if that happened,
then you do count on things like the Pennsylvania Jewish
vote winning Pennsylvania for Donald Trump. Even though it's a
small percentage, it's enough to move the needle. And so
you have that in certain places where that could really
make a difference. It can make or break the campaign
for him. So obviously I am a life long conservative.
(23:39):
I have always hoped that Jews wake up and vote
Republican because that's clearly what benefits them. No, forget about Israel,
but if it benefits us in America, the Republican Party
is more apt to protect us and more app to
let us protect ourselves, which is really important to me.
So I hope the Jews wake up and do the
right thing in November.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Now, Carol or speaking of Carol mark it's just reminding
you so that you can go subscribe to the Clay
and Buck podcast network, click on Carol Show you listen
to it.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
She does great stuff. Also a fantastic columnist.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And my mom gets excited every time I get to
hang out with Carol because she's a huge Carol fan. So, Cli,
do you have this too. We're like family members in
our business. They're never you know, they're family. They're never
excited to like hang out with us because whatever. But
it's like, oh, you hang out with like Carol Markwitz
or like oh Jesse Kelly is so funny, and you're like, yeah,
I'm okay too, right Anyway, true story, true story for
(24:29):
mar A Lago. By the way, since I'm going to
this digression, Trump Trump sees me, sees Carol, he brings
us over are he's sitting at his table.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
He wants choveleis a little bit and he's like, he's like,
he's like Buck, He's like, you're doing great work. You're
doing great Carol, better than you, but you're still doing
great work. Just like that. So anyway, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
But yeah, but Carol jd Vance, all the woman commentary
around jd Vance?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Is it a problem? Is it? Is it fair to him?
Is it just no? Where do you come down on that.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
I think that most of the people who had a
problem with what he was saying, we're never going to
vote for the Trump Vance ticket, and they shouldn't spend
too much time trying to, you know, recoup those people.
But look, it hurts some feelings of women on the
right who maybe want to be married but aren't and
don't enjoy being called, you know, childless cat ladies. And
I get that. I really do understand that, and I
(25:22):
feel for those people. So what I would say is
that Trump Dvance campaign should focus on women's issues, and
that are the same issues as men's issues. We care
about the border, we care about crime, we care about
affording groceries, you know, at the store. So these are
all issues that cater to men and women, and that's
what they should focus on. Was Advanced wrong in saying
(25:44):
that a society that's not having children doesn't care about
the future. No, I worry about that, for example with Britain.
Britain seems kind of a drift and not really focused
on the future. And I blame a lot of that
on the fact that so many people don't have kids
and therefore don't have this on what the future of
the country will look like, because why would it really matter?
So I get what he was saying in the macro.
(26:06):
He should have been kinder and maybe gentler about it
in the micro That's really the point here that when
you talk to women you kind of have to use
a little bit of a different tone. But it was
you wrong, though he wasn't wrong, And I don't think
they should spend another minute talking about this.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Carol, we're sitting here on I got to make sure
I get the date right, August sixth. If you were
setting odds, how confident are you that Trump wins?
Speaker 9 (26:30):
I am such a doomsday person. I don't know, you know,
I was. I was somebody that worried a lot that
they were going to drag Joe Biden across that finish line.
And I feel better with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
In fact, I believe you also owe Sorry to cut
you off, but you mistake.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
I was so right for so long. It's like, you know, somebody,
somebody said, it's like taking me under and in a
sport game.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I was.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
I was right right up until I wasn't. But you know,
I think that it's I think we don't live in
a country that alecs Kamala Harris far leftist with her
far left VP nominee. I really believe in US, so
I imagine that Trump has to pull it out. I
think some things need to break his way. I think
that his trials kind of need to be in the background,
(27:18):
and I know the Temocrats will push him to the foreground.
But do we live in a country where President Kamala
Harris is inaugurated in January? I just I hope not.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm with Carol on this one, man. It's just at
that point, what what is America? If the Harris wall
walls walls apparently We've been told.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Not Wals whatever his name is, whatever his name is.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
I saw somebody you'll appreciate this, Carrol, Communists, go ahead,
I was saying. I saw some people saying, this is
the most difficult apostrophe combo in presidential ticket history, with
Harris and Waltz, Walls, whatever the guy's name is, this
is I agree. I think it's an unmitigated disaster. If
it's possible that they can get elected, they are, legitimately,
(28:04):
I think, the farthest left wing ticket in American political history.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I don't think that's hyperbole.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
That's right. And look, you know we buckled down in Florida.
If that happens and we start a revolution of our
own right.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Red states, I would say, well, I'm in a red
state now in Tennessee. But I would say that a
lot of people would respond by moving to red states
because I do think there are people fed up with
the federal level who say, Okay, I want to move
to a red state and make sure that at least
I'm protected there. Ron de Santis actually shared on X
(28:38):
Carol that you probably saw this that when it comes
to Minnesota and Florida, a Minnesota is five times as
likely to permanently move to Florida as a Floridian is
to move to Minnesota. Not surprising, but still, I mean,
that's a tough move to go Florida into Minnesota. I mean,
I don't know very many people are like, hey, I'm
going to give up warm weather all year round.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I want to freeze my ass off.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It would take a while to sell all your flip
flops on eBay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's not great. Yes, So that's a tough transition. Carol,
Thank you so much, everybody. Thanks Carol, great to talk
to you.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
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It is waiting for you to download and listen and
she's killing it there. Thank you as well.
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Indeed, and it is one of the most amusing parts
of my job. When I am called upon to be
the dean in the high school who's supposed to give
Clay detention of people like Clay, Kid, you need to
tell Clay or Clay's not aloud. But then this one's
just sort of funny. Jeff on x Right's the following
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grace for it. Clay Clay's Minnesota analysis is absurd. Remind
him that his beloved Valls have been irrelevant since the nineties.
I'm not necessarily a fan of Minnesota, but Vikings and
Twins record aren't what comes to mind. Very he's going
after your Valls on this one. I'm just saying he's
trying to take it right into your kitchen.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I would just say the University of Tennessee just won
the College World Series like six weeks ago. So Tennessee
is a state of champions, unlike Minnesota, which loses in everything. Again,
not trying to pick on Minnesotans, but you do lose
in everything all the time. You're the worst winning city.
(33:34):
And I say this with sympathy that has a Pro hockey,
a Pro baseball, a pro football, and a pro what's
the other one out there? Pro basketball? You never win
anything since the nineties, since Kent hurt, since Kent Irbek
pulled the Atlanta Braves off third base, and you managed
to win a seven game series. I think in like
(33:55):
ninety one, your losers and everything.
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Just before one for three every one, and Clay is
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Speaker 1 (34:05):
Going to break the speed limit. Okay I am.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I am going to drive as fast as Minnesota Governor
Tim Waltz did when he was arrested. Unlike him, I'm
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fifty five. With a DUI, I might get pulled over
for speeding, but so far in my life I've never
been pulled over for a dui. This is from by
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said that your your father's building was the first one
the mob burned down in Minneapolis.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Yes, that's correct. When it was right across from the
third Precinct and my brother called and said, turn on
Fox News. They're burning our buildings. And so they let
it burn to the ground.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
And what was the sorry, what was the business? What
was your father running in that business?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
It was an AutoZone store, okay, and so that was
our tenant. He built that building in nineteen sixty seven,
and when he passed away, my family inherited that building.
And so that was right across from the third Precinct
where everyone was gathering, and they turned around and they
(35:17):
had the footage of a guy, a guy with a
big gas mask on and a vaulting hammer, and he
walked across all our blake glass windows and punched holes
in him broke them. And then someone came behind him
and threw accelerant in there, and it burns so hot
it even burns.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Did anybody do anything to those people who burned down
your dad's building?
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Nope? Nothing, And what was it?
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What was it like in terms of dealing with insurance,
were they just happy to be on the spot, write
you a check for the full value, no problems.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Yeah yeah, But we did rebuild the building and autosone
came back. They are a tenant, but it took you know,
two years and a lot of work to do it,
and a lot of money for us as well. And
the next day my brother was down there and there
was a police car sitting on the corner and he
went and talked to the guy and he said, you know,
(36:09):
we could have stopped the Third Precinct from being burned
and your building, but we were told not to do anything.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Long, yeah, but we need people like you to speak out,
by the way, so please, like Clay, we need everybody
who was affected by that because the GOP needs to
sit down with you and video this.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Uh so you know, we got to I don't know
how we round up everybody.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Laura Ingram came from Fox News and interviewed my brother.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
So that's okay, good, good, good stories told widely, for sure.
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