September 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Vivek Ramaswamy takes CNN to task on Kamala flip-flops. Trump senior campaign official Corey Lewandowski joins Clay and Buck to discuss the state of the campaign. Kamala campaigning in New Hampshire is a bad sign for her.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now give you
a little roadmap to where we're going here. Corey Lewindowski
seen your campaign official for Trump twenty twenty four. It's
going to be with this bottom of this hour and
next hour Bernie Marino, who is running for Senate in Ohio. Look,
Ohio is good for the Republicans, I think on the
(00:22):
presidential side, but it's going to be a tight senate race.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You always got to remember we should start to call
it the it's the Basher effect, Clay, where even in
a very red state you can have very very blue
sadness happened.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The governor of Kentucky, which is a very red state,
is a Democrat. You could have a Democrat senator in
Ohio unless Bernie Marino comes out on top, and I
think I think you will. We'll talk to him. Third hours,
just lett. You know, we got two great guests. Also,
if you're a VIP for example, and you want to
get a question to us about what you want to
know about the Trump twenty twenty four campaign, we got
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Corey Lewandowski. He was with Trump going way back to
twenty sixteen, as you know, working on the campaign, so
we can get him some good questions about ground game turnout,
you know, door knocking, opo ads, you name it, right,
I mean the real nuts and bolts of how you win.
(01:21):
And that's really what the focus has to be right now.
So we will get into all of that. But Clay,
I'd mentioned this before, just because you know, we we
should have our buddy Vivak back on the show sometime soon.
I'm gonna be with him tomorrow in La, Buck, I'll
get him on with us. Why don't you tell him
to come hang out? Tell him to tell him to
come hang out. He's got to come on the show.
Maybe I get him on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
But I'm gonna be in La with him all day tomorrow,
So let's see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And so I think that, by the way, it's funny,
you know how Kamala Harris every always says she's like
she's like the person who's trying to extend the word
limit of what she's writing about the book report without
having read the book. I want to see if we
could get Viveke like we should just ask Vivic random
questions to which it's not even feasible that he could
know the answer and see how good his answers would,
(02:07):
because I think they'd be very good. Like Vivike, you
don't speak hieroglyphics or you know, you don't speak ancient Greek,
but what do you think about ancient Greek in the
falling context? Anyway, Vic's obviously very skilled orator, and that
was on display here in this In this exchange with CNN,
you had one of their anchors. I don't really know
(02:29):
much about their anchors these days. They're pretty you know
what I mean. I'm not the only one, right, So
don't they're not in airports anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They that deal CNN used to pay to be in
the airports. I check that out right, They used to
pay the airports to carry the programming and nobody want
to watch. I don't know if they're still doing this
or not, but I think that deal went away. Anyway,
Here is one of their anchors. And this is critical
because this goes to the heart of the whole demokrat
(03:00):
you know magic show right now, which is you know,
look here, but don't look here, like they're making things
appear out of nowhere or disappear. In the case of
Kamala's record, and they took them to task on this.
Listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You brought up some claims about Kamala Harris. I want
to finish that discussion. She said she didn't favor a
ban on fracking. Now, the reality is she was one
of the strongest proponents of that ban, so much so
that when she was in California she sued the Obama
administration over granting fracking permits. She didn't just favor the
abolition of private health insurance. She was a co sponsor
of the bill with Bernie Sanders as a US Senator
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for Medicare for All for America. The reality is, when
you think about the Green New Deal, she was the
chief proponent, not just as a co sponsor of the legislation,
but going further and saying she would end the filibuster
in the Senate to ram that through. So the reality
is she can say what she wants to say. Now,
those are actions she has taken. Is someone allowed to evolve,
Of course they are, But she deserves to explain exactly
(04:01):
why she's changed those positions, exactly what her position is.
If it's not a ban on fracking, what exactly is it?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
What exactly is.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Her healthcare plan if she no longer favors abolishing private
health insurance, which just four short years ago when she
ran for president, she did. And that's the kind of
scrutiny that's been missing. I think Donald Trump has received
plenty of scrutiny, and I give credit to him for
sitting for hostile interviews that Kamala Harris has not.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, the latter part of it. We know she's not
going to explain it because there is no explanation. I
think Clay what's critical and Viveig pointed this out and
eloquently laid this out on CNN. You can tell the
anchors like, gosh darn it, which one of my producers
booked this guy, this is a bad idea, although it
is getting them some attention, so that CNN's got that
going for it. Clay, Kamala wasn't just another Democrat senator
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or Democrat candidate for the presidency. Kamala Harris was far left.
She was on some of the most hardcore left wing
policies are the Democrat Party. She was in the vanguard.
I mean, this is essentially like if Bernie Sanders all
of a sudden showed up and he's like, you know what,
I'm a centrist. Everything that I used to say, I
(05:10):
don't believe it anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That's great, Bernie Sanders. I give credit to Viveike because,
as you mentioned, this is on CNN and we're now
into the persuadable voter part of the twenty twenty four
election cycle. We're sixty two days out. There are five
to ten percent of voters out there that may not
have made up their minds because they've been paying little attention,
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because they got kids or grandkids, and they're running around
on a day to day basis, and they have their
life going on and they aren't obsessed with the TikTok
of daily political debate. But here on CNN and on MSNBC,
you have an opportunity to make arguments. And I would
say this, whatever you think about Viveke and jd Vance,
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they are TV thoroughbreds. They can show up and handle
a question, knock it back out of the park. In response,
who do you think honestly? Buck on the Democrat side
is actually a debate thoroughbred where when they get a question,
you may not agree with them, but you say, man,
(06:21):
that is an absolute clinic. I don't know they have any,
And I think the answer is because they are so
used to living in a world where the media carries
the water for them that it makes them that makes
their argument weak and unrefined. And I think you saw
that with DeSantis versus Newsome, when they actually got a
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little bit of pushback, he had no idea how to
deal with facts.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, you see this at a different level, but it's
the exact same phenomenon you're talking about with college Republicans
versus the college leftists democrats running around. They are so
used to the consensus of their left wing ideas on
campuses that when these you know, young men and women.
We always say kids, but they're young men and women
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are confronted with serious arguments from the other side, they
get emotional and they melt and they snowflake and they
freak out and all that. Right, Whereas college Republicans, because
the professors and most of the kids around you, they've
been it's like they've been in in you know, fight
club the whole time, and people want to throw a
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punch with them. They're ready to go the other side.
They're not used to it at all. And maybe we
in this fight club wear boat shoes and blue blazers
with brass buttons, but we still, as college Republicans, know
how to throw a punch. I was at GW today,
George Washington University, speaking and I got a question in
the audience buck, and it was how do you deal
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with misinformation and disinformation in the political arena? And I
think the guy was stunned with my answer. I said, well,
you have more speed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So the cure for.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Lies and for deceitful speech is not trying to have
somebody out there with a magic wand saying we've got
to censor this, We've got to take this out. It's
to allow a more full throated debate. And I think
Republicans are used to it, or at least like you
and I. I would bet this quite strongly. If CNN
had us on and they said, hey, can you argue
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the leftist perspective? I think you and I could argue
the left wing perspective better than most left wingers, because
in order to make right wing arguments or centrist arguments,
you have to understand the whole scope of argument. And
I don't think most Democrats do because they are so
out of touch with what Republicans are saying, whereas I
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think republicans know very much what democrats are saying. The
exposure to arguments is much stronger on the right than
it is to the left. Oh, I could do a podcast,
you know, I could dye a patch of my hair
purple and get a nose ring or three, and I
could do a podcast as a leftist tomorrow, and as
long as I could disguise my voice, no one would
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have any idea was to put on I know exactly
what they think.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's another difference about about left and right, And this
is there's been some pretty look, most sociology is just
the advancement of left wing ideology through the pseudo lens
of science or the lens of a pseudoscience. But there
has been some research to show this that when we
say this is what I think democrats think, not just
you and me meeting clay and but anyone on the
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right has a much better idea of the left wing argument.
I mean, for example, the left wing argument, and you'll
see this all the time on abortion is always just
about they just say, you know, why do you want
to control our bodies? And they never even address because
they believe the right or the pro life position is
there's another body, there's a little baby, there's a little body.
They don't even address that. It's always just why do
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you want to control our bodies? I mean they're saying
that Trump, the guy who was like the owner of
the Miss Universe competition, is going to force women into
Burkah's or or you know whatever it is from that
Handhandmaid's Tale. Yeah, this is it. Yeah, the burke is
obviously a Taliban thing. But I'm saying, like this is
this is insane. But I do think the conservatives have
a better understanding of what the other side believes. I
(10:12):
also think that the uh and this was a Christopher
Hitchins argument, who's now departed, was good on some things
and bad. He's kind of like rfkage you and you're
very good on some things, wrong on others. But he
would say that Clay, it's not just about your point
about the censorship and shutting down. It's not just that
you need to hear the right argument, which is the
the the answer that you get from so many of
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the disinformation experts, and they all say that their voice
has to go up a few octaves. Disinformation Russia collusion.
It's that you need to hear the wrong argument too,
because then you can actually understand what the formulation is
for the other side and know that the right argument
is right. You can't actually know what the truth is
if you are never exposed to what is not true
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in political argument, in political debate, you know what I mean,
That's another part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And also it allows you to know what the counter
punch is. No successful argument or debate can just be
you throwing punches. And a lot of people I talk
to this about the people we hire it out kick Hey,
you're going to write opinion pieces everything else. When you
write your opinion piece, make sure that you are aware
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of what the two or three best counter punches are
to whatever your argument is. In an ideal world, you
address them in the context of your argument and dismiss them,
but at least be aware of it. And I think
what social media created, particularly on the left buck is
they don't actually consider when you throw a punch and look,
(11:44):
I box three days a week. I loved box. I
don't get punched, Thankfully, I got too much out of
my head. I gotta make sure that it still works.
But a huge part of training to box is not
just thinking about what you're doing on your initial punch.
It's that you have to contemplate the CounterPunch. And if
you watch boxing, people generally get knocked out, not because
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they have not punched enough or something like that, it's
because when you punch, you open yourself up to a
devastating counter attack. And I don't think Democrats because they're
being protected by the media. They basically have officials jumping
in and trying to stop them from ever having to
take the consequences of their CounterPunch. Their ideas are flabby,
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they're not in shape. And if Trump is disciplined in
six days, I think Kamala is going to leave herself
open to one devastating CounterPunch after another in that debate
because she's taken every side of every perspective. Now, I'm
not sure that Trump will be disciplined enough to kind
of weigh back. Trump is more of a puncher than
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a counterpuncher, but you often win debates with counterpunches, not
with punches, and that to me is where Kamala and
many Democrats are wide open in this perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think she's also going to try to if she's
if she has any real skill or attacked up there,
which I'm not sure she will, but she's going to
try to get, you know, under Trump's skin and gone
off the handle on something that's the best. She's not
going to expose Trump on policy, because he's right on policy.
It's it's not about oh, when you know this thing
about Trump, then you're gonna it's she's going to try
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to use. I should say, her only strategy to victor
true victory is she goes after Trump and tries to
bait him personally and get him to to flip out
up there.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
We can't have bad Trump that showed up for the
first debate against Joe Biden. Trump the worst debate performance
of Joe of Donald Trump's career, in my opinion, was
the first debate against Joe Biden in twenty twenty. If
he had had the same debate performance in the second debate,
I think Trump, even with all the rig job, would
have won. I think he lost a lot of people
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with that first debate. He just needs to keep it
between the lines, don't perform poorly.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
He was excellent against Biden too. I know people can say, oh,
but you know it was so easy. No, he made
the right decision, which was let everyone see Biden. He
could have jumped in there and shouted and been too aggressive.
There are a lot of ways that he could have
at least run some unintentional interference for Biden. He didn't
do it. I thought he was excellent under the circumstances,
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and I think that's proven by the reality that had
destroyed the Biden campaign. So look, is there rising crime
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And now Trump has thanked Brittany Mahomes for liking him,
saying that he will see them at the super Bowl.
This is intriguing. I would just toss this out. How
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back to Clay and Cory Lewandowski is with us
from twenty twenty four, senior campaign official, a veteran of
the Trump Wars politically speaking, Good to have you back, Corey.
Thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, it's a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Look, let's get let's just give you the ball that
you're run with it here you have the connectivity and
the perspective to see how it's looking for Trump in
a way that everybody wants to hear. I mean, we
can just sort of start by honing in on some
of the battolet ground states. How's the campaign, how's the
ground game? How are we looking?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Let me give your listeners some historical perspective of this,
and I'll just go back four years of where the
campaign was on this day in twenty twenty on the
Real Clear Politics average. In twenty twenty, we were down
seven points to Joe Biden. Today Rasmusen has us up
four points. But let's go to the big states, the
states that are going to matter, where this election is
going to be decided first and foremost in Arizona. On
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this day four years ago, we were down five points
of Joe Biden. Today, according to Real Clear Politics, we're
up five point five for a net swing of ten
and a half points. When you look at where we
are in the battleground state of Michigan four years ago,
down three point three to Biden, today we're up two
point two for a net swing of five point five.
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And then let me just go down to Pennsylvania. We
were down three to six. We're now up three to
one for a net swing of six point seven. And lastly, Wisconsin,
Wisconsin today, four years ago we were down four point
four points. Today we're up three point zero and the
Real Claire average for a net of seven point four
point swing. All of that is to say we are
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in the strongest position Donald Trump has ever been in
his life to seek this reelection and have victory in November.
Absolutely no question.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Corey Kamala Harris's campaigning in New Hampshire today, I told
our audience we started the show, look at where Kamala
is going.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It will tell you how she sees the race.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Is it to you a sign of nerve br business
that Kamala is in New Hampshire and in Virginia, two
states that Biden won comfortably in twenty twenty one. New
Hampshire by seventy won Virginia by ten. Doesn't that kind
of indicate to all of us what her internal polling
is showing.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh, it absolutely does. Look you know, we've got public
polling that shows that the state of Virginia is a
three point race. Right now, We've got public polling that
shows that New Hampshire is dead. Even she is afraid
because if she loses the four electoral votes in New
Hampshire and the electoral votes in Virginia, she has no path.
Where is Donald Trump recently and where is he today? Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona,
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North Carolina, Rinse and repeat why, because that's where this
race is going to be won and lost. When you
look at the battleground states and my home state of
New Hampshire, we're going to continue to have people on
the ground there a strong presence. I will always advocate
for the President to go up and see those people.
But Kamalawa Harris, her first campaign stops of this election
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cycle are in a state like New Hampshire. It tells
you everything you need to know that she is so
concerned that she's going to lose that state that she's
putting her first campaign stops there, and look, I think
it's very possible she does lose. Donald Trump lost the
state of New Hampshire in twenty sixteen by about two
seven hundred votes. And now the people know what's at stake,
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and they know that his record will bring them economic prosperity,
shafety and security, and an opportunity for everybody in that
granted state to have a better future.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Speaking of Corey Lewandowski, senior campaign advisor for Trump twenty
twenty four, Corey, to that end, on the economic side
of things, what is the primary messaging that the campaign
has running in these particularly in the swing states, on
what the Trump economy would do? And also, how is
the Trump campaign defining the Kamala economy? Because I don't
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think that the Kamala campaign knows really, But so how's
that going?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, it's very simple, right, Donald Trump has a record
while he was in office of passing the largest tax
cut in American history. And what's amazing and your listener
should be aware of this is Donald Trump and Kamala
Harris have actually never met. And the reason for that
is because she was so ineffective as a US senator
that she wasn't part of any of these bipartisan negotiations
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to help provide economic relief to the American people. So
where are we right now? We know that the you
know what they used to call bidnomics, she's walking away from.
She's no longer supporting that because of the devastation has
entailed and told on the American families. It doesn't matter
if you are rich or poor, black or white, green
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or blue, it doesn't matter. You are feeling the crunch
of the Biden Harris Walls administration, which is more money
to put food on your plate, is more money to
put gas in your car, is more money to make
sure your kids have the school supplies that they need
to go back to school. And people are tired of
it because it's unsustainable.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Corey, when you look at the larger landscape of this race,
it seems to me the easiest path for Trump winning
is North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania. Now there's a lot of
other states we just mentioned New Hampshire, Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona.
There's a lot of states in play out there, But
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when you look at the map, is that the pathway
of Hey, we win North Carolina, we win Georgia, we
win Pennsylvania, those three states, and it's done. Is that
part of the way You're thinking, how would you assess
the map here as we sit sixty two days out?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, look, I think North Carolina's a state that's been
very good to us over the last two cycles. Georgia,
you know, is a state that we have clearly an
opportunity to be successful there. Historically speaking, they've a number
of Republicans who've been elected down there and has been
a state that's been good to us. That being said,
Pennsylvania is always the Great White Whale, and until Donald
Trump won it in twenty sixteen, Republicans always thought they
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could win it, but they could never pull it off.
But his message is particularly when he juxtaposed that to
Kamala's message of fracking, is what Donald Trump supports, she
opposes it. You know, we have seen what outsourcing jobs
has done to the state of Pennsylvania. We've seen what
the outsourcing of manufacturing has done. So Pennsylvania is a
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battleground state, for sure. But look what we've been able
to do in Michigan. Look what the auto workers have
come around to Donald Trump because Joe Biden is willing
to put those autofactories down in Mexico. Look at the
state of Wisconsin, and I just want to go back
to those numbers. Four years ago today we were down
full point four points in Wisconsin. Today we're up three.
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If anybody thinks that Tim Wallas has been in addition
to this campaign for Kamala Harris, they are sorely mistaken.
He is the most, if not the most very close
to the most radical governor in America, and his Midwest
values have not given them any bump in those battleground
states of Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Corey, we know you talked to Trump on a regular
daily basis. The debate coming up, there's one debate that
Kamala has agreed to so far, Right's still just one.
I think that she said, okay, yeah, I'll show up
for that one. What should we expect from the big guy?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Look, I think Donald Trump has been preparing for debates
his entire life. We know that, and I've heard it
hundreds of times. If Donald Trump would just do this,
he will win, or if he'll just stop talking. You know,
he has a record of winning presidential debates, whether it
was in the primary process all the way back in
fifteen and sixteen, which I know many of you remember,
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or it was when he debated Hillary Clinton and he
said you'd be in jail. It was that one liner,
the off the cuff, you know, extemporaneous statement that he
made that everybody started laughing. Or at the last debate, well,
Joe Biden is ruling on himself and Donald Trump turned
and said, I don't know what that guy just said,
and either does he. I mean, you know, it's so
funny because this guy has such a quick wit that
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I would anticipate a line like that is going to
happen in this debate, and it's going to show the
humanization of Donald Trump, because I believe Kamala Harris is
just going to try and be a robot. She's going
to tell us how she prosecutes criminals like Donald Trump,
and how she has made her way and broken through
the glass ceiling and all of those things. The reality
is she doesn't know what she's for and what she's against.
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And this is going to be the first time truly
that the American people will have a chance to see
and hear from her because most of the media has
given her a free pass for the last forty five days.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Corey, do you think that Kamala camp is starting to
panic a little bit? It feels like they got the
sugar high in August, then they didn't get as much
as they thought coming out of the DNC, and the
numbers have continued to tick back. Have you seen that
in the internal pole with the Trump team and does
that kind of characterize why we've seen it feels sort
(28:05):
of like a frenetic Kamala Harris campaign of late, where
they're just desperately trying to erase the things that she
said she's four in the past and now claim she's
against them.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, her staff is out actively telling all the members
of the media what Kamala now stands for. We haven't
heard it from her, we haven't heard it from the candidate,
but our staff is doing it on Friday nights and
you know, privately with members of the media because they're
afraid because coming off of the Democrat Convention, she should
have gotten a five to seven point bump, but she
did not. And the reason she didn't get that bump
(28:38):
partially is because we received and secured the RFK endorsement
the following day. And I don't want to overlook that,
but that RFK endorsement in Glendale, Arizona might have been
the largest crowd and rally and applause I have ever
heard for anybody on a debate on a stage other
(28:59):
than Donald John's Trump. The crowd was in love with
this guy. And what we're seeing and what the polling
data is indicating is those women who are twenty five
to forty years old, who have multiple children or children
are coming to the Trump campaign in record numbers because
they're concerned about what Kamala and Joe did to their
kids forcing them. With the vaccines and the RFK Junior
(29:22):
endorsement and the Tulsa Gabbard endorsement are paying significant dividends
of the campaign in both the short term and then
we'll continue to do so in the long term.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
We got one more question for you from one of
our VIPs. VIP Joe asks Corey where all the commercials?
Please tell me the battleground states are going to get
flooded with commercials. I haven't heard or seen one single
Trump commercial. What can you tell me about how he's
in by the way in Mississippi. So I think some
people out there in red states are seeing I ain't seeing much.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Corey.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
My bet is going to be you're feeling pretty good
about a lot of states.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah. Look, if we got trouble in Mississippi, fellaws, we're
in big right. I think we're gonna be okay down
and those are our people. But that said, don't forget.
We are just under nine weeks away from election day,
although early voting in balloty going out as early as
Saturday in the States, So we are running TV commercials.
But I want people to remember this, fifty percent of
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the electorate no longer receives their communication from television, from
mainstream media. They getting it through social media platforms, They're
getting it from their phone. So our ability to communicate
with those people continue to evolves as the delivery platforms
continue to evolve. And that's what we're trying to do
is make sure that the right people are getting the
right messages at the right time.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Corey Buck and I have both said that we're going
to vote early. We're going to get our ballot in.
For people out there that are listening right now, would
you encourage them to go vote early? If so, why
what is the impact?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Well, let me tell you something. I am a big
believer and now I live in a state of New
Hampshire that we don't have really voting. We don't have
a voting You have to vote on election day shy
of you know, a major health crisis. But in places
that allow people to vote early, absolutely take that opportunity.
You know, Republicans always win on election day because our
(31:15):
people tend to wait. But the Democrats have mastered disability
to go to people and get them to vote early
and put that money in the bank for later. To
put that vote in the bank for later. I think
what we're going to see It may just be one debate,
It may be and maybe two or three. We don't know.
Kamala's team won't commit to that. But if you get
your ballot, don't wait and hold it for sixty days.
(31:37):
If you already know that you're voting for Donald Trump,
you put your name on that envelope, fill it out,
vote for Donald Trump, and get it back in. Because
that's how we're going to be successful is making sure
that every person who has the opportunity to vote early
is doing that. And if we can maintain parody with
the Democrats and their early vote in the addit voting,
(31:58):
we know that we'll win on election day and we
have to have a system and an election outcome that's
too big to rig.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Corey, keep up the good work. Tell President Trump to
have fun tonight in Harrisburg with Sean Hannity. We know
he will in six days from now. We can't wait
to watch that first debate.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
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Speaker 3 (33:33):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Brand new breaking news story.
By the way, Kamala Harris, this is from the Wall
Street Journal literally just popped up. Kamala Harris evidently getting
so much heat on her economic policies that she is
(33:54):
not going to increase the capital gains tax rate as
much as President Biden to do. She's supposed to speak
Wednesday afternoon, New Hampshire. They're declining to comment but they
are now saying that they will not be willing to
increase as much as had previously been the case. Now
(34:15):
it's still going to be awful for anybody out there
that is involved in making investments. You don't want to
be involved in the Kamala Harris economic plan. But she
is supposedly going to address this in New Hampshire, and
you just heard from Corey Lewandowski. I think this is
a big deal. The fact that Kamala Harris, immediately after
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the start of the official race, right with Labor Day,
would run to New Hampshire is a sign that the
polling is really moving in a bad direction for her.
And in fact, as I am talking to all of you,
Trump has now opened up a six point lead in
the gambling markets in Pennsylvania. What you should be preparing
(35:00):
for is pure desperation in the next several weeks, particularly
if the debate six days from now doesn't really break
Kamala's way. Buck you just mentioned with Corey, I do
think this is significant. Trump said, hey, I'll debate you
two times three times. He's gonna be on with Sean
Hannity tonight from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Kamala has still only committed
(35:24):
to one debate. I think she's waiting to see how
September tenth goes and how her polling looks to make
a decision about whether she wants to debate Trump more
than once. I really think that's why she hasn't made
that direct pronouncement of sure, I'll do two debates, I'll
do three debates. I think she's hoping to get away
(35:44):
with only one. I really do. Oh yeah, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Look, Biden should have taken my advice given freely on
this air, which was that he shouldn't have debated Trump.
He'd be the nominee. And I think the Democrats without
that debate, I think Biden's far more competitive against Trump
than people realize now. But with Kamala, familiarity breeds concern
(36:11):
among Democrats when it comes to this campaign. The more
they know, the more they're like, I don't think we
can get this done. So one debate one and done.
Absolutely my expectation. But I think she's going to be
in rough shape. And I actually think Trump's going to
have an interesting decision to make because if he continues
to have things move in his direction and does a
(36:32):
good job, which I think he will on September tenth.
I think she's going to be begging for debates and
Trump won't actually necessarily need to do for them, which
would put her in a really tough spot. Play some
audio for you, Stelter back on C and N when
we return.
Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now give you
a little roadmap to where we're going here. Corey Lewindowski
seen your campaign official for Trump twenty twenty four. It's
going to be with this bottom of this hour and
next hour Bernie Marino, who is running for Senate in Ohio. Look,
Ohio is good for the Republicans, I think on the
(00:22):
presidential side, but it's going to be a tight senate race.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
You always got to remember we should start to call
it the it's the Basher effect, Clay, where even in
a very red state you can have very very blue
sadness happened.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The governor of Kentucky, which is a very red state,
is a Democrat. You could have a Democrat senator in
Ohio unless Bernie Marino comes out on top, and I
think I think you will. We'll talk to him. Third hours,
just lett. You know, we got two great guests. Also,
if you're a VIP for example, and you want to
get a question to us about what you want to
know about the Trump twenty twenty four campaign, we got
(01:00):
Corey Lewandowski. He was with Trump going way back to
twenty sixteen, as you know, working on the campaign, so
we can get him some good questions about ground game turnout,
you know, door knocking, opo ads, you name it, right,
I mean the real nuts and bolts of how you win.
(01:21):
And that's really what the focus has to be right now.
So we will get into all of that. But Clay,
I'd mentioned this before, just because you know, we we
should have our buddy Vivak back on the show sometime soon.
I'm gonna be with him tomorrow in La, Buck, I'll
get him on with us. Why don't you tell him
to come hang out? Tell him to tell him to
come hang out. He's got to come on the show.
Maybe I get him on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
But I'm gonna be in La with him all day tomorrow,
So let's see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And so I think that, by the way, it's funny,
you know how Kamala Harris every always says she's like
she's like the person who's trying to extend the word
limit of what she's writing about the book report without
having read the book. I want to see if we
could get Viveke like we should just ask Vivic random
questions to which it's not even feasible that he could
know the answer and see how good his answers would,
(02:07):
because I think they'd be very good. Like Vivike, you
don't speak hieroglyphics or you know, you don't speak ancient Greek,
but what do you think about ancient Greek in the
falling context? Anyway, Vic's obviously very skilled orator, and that
was on display here in this In this exchange with CNN,
you had one of their anchors. I don't really know
(02:29):
much about their anchors these days. They're pretty you know
what I mean. I'm not the only one, right, So
don't they're not in airports anymore?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
They that deal CNN used to pay to be in
the airports. I check that out right, They used to
pay the airports to carry the programming and nobody want
to watch. I don't know if they're still doing this
or not, but I think that deal went away. Anyway,
Here is one of their anchors. And this is critical
because this goes to the heart of the whole demokrat
(03:00):
you know magic show right now, which is you know,
look here, but don't look here, like they're making things
appear out of nowhere or disappear. In the case of
Kamala's record, and they took them to task on this.
Listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
You brought up some claims about Kamala Harris. I want
to finish that discussion. She said she didn't favor a
ban on fracking. Now, the reality is she was one
of the strongest proponents of that ban, so much so
that when she was in California she sued the Obama
administration over granting fracking permits. She didn't just favor the
abolition of private health insurance. She was a co sponsor
of the bill with Bernie Sanders as a US Senator
(03:39):
for Medicare for All for America. The reality is, when
you think about the Green New Deal, she was the
chief proponent, not just as a co sponsor of the legislation,
but going further and saying she would end the filibuster
in the Senate to ram that through. So the reality
is she can say what she wants to say. Now,
those are actions she has taken. Is someone allowed to evolve,
Of course they are, But she deserves to explain exactly
(04:01):
why she's changed those positions, exactly what her position is.
If it's not a ban on fracking, what exactly is it?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
What exactly is.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Her healthcare plan if she no longer favors abolishing private
health insurance, which just four short years ago when she
ran for president, she did. And that's the kind of
scrutiny that's been missing. I think Donald Trump has received
plenty of scrutiny, and I give credit to him for
sitting for hostile interviews that Kamala Harris has not.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, the latter part of it. We know she's not
going to explain it because there is no explanation. I
think Clay what's critical and Viveig pointed this out and
eloquently laid this out on CNN. You can tell the
anchors like, gosh darn it, which one of my producers
booked this guy, this is a bad idea, although it
is getting them some attention, so that CNN's got that
going for it. Clay, Kamala wasn't just another Democrat senator
(04:48):
or Democrat candidate for the presidency. Kamala Harris was far left.
She was on some of the most hardcore left wing
policies are the Democrat Party. She was in the vanguard.
I mean, this is essentially like if Bernie Sanders all
of a sudden showed up and he's like, you know what,
I'm a centrist. Everything that I used to say, I
(05:10):
don't believe it anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That's great, Bernie Sanders. I give credit to Viveike because,
as you mentioned, this is on CNN and we're now
into the persuadable voter part of the twenty twenty four
election cycle. We're sixty two days out. There are five
to ten percent of voters out there that may not
have made up their minds because they've been paying little attention,
(05:36):
because they got kids or grandkids, and they're running around
on a day to day basis, and they have their
life going on and they aren't obsessed with the TikTok
of daily political debate. But here on CNN and on MSNBC,
you have an opportunity to make arguments. And I would
say this, whatever you think about Viveke and jd Vance,
(06:00):
they are TV thoroughbreds. They can show up and handle
a question, knock it back out of the park. In response,
who do you think honestly? Buck on the Democrat side
is actually a debate thoroughbred where when they get a question,
you may not agree with them, but you say, man,
(06:21):
that is an absolute clinic. I don't know they have any,
And I think the answer is because they are so
used to living in a world where the media carries
the water for them that it makes them that makes
their argument weak and unrefined. And I think you saw
that with DeSantis versus Newsome, when they actually got a
(06:43):
little bit of pushback, he had no idea how to
deal with facts.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, you see this at a different level, but it's
the exact same phenomenon you're talking about with college Republicans
versus the college leftists democrats running around. They are so
used to the consensus of their left wing ideas on
campuses that when these you know, young men and women.
We always say kids, but they're young men and women
(07:07):
are confronted with serious arguments from the other side, they
get emotional and they melt and they snowflake and they
freak out and all that. Right, Whereas college Republicans, because
the professors and most of the kids around you, they've
been it's like they've been in in you know, fight
club the whole time, and people want to throw a
(07:29):
punch with them. They're ready to go the other side.
They're not used to it at all. And maybe we
in this fight club wear boat shoes and blue blazers
with brass buttons, but we still, as college Republicans, know
how to throw a punch. I was at GW today,
George Washington University, speaking and I got a question in
the audience buck, and it was how do you deal
(07:49):
with misinformation and disinformation in the political arena? And I
think the guy was stunned with my answer. I said, well,
you have more speed.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So the cure for.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Lies and for deceitful speech is not trying to have
somebody out there with a magic wand saying we've got
to censor this, We've got to take this out. It's
to allow a more full throated debate. And I think
Republicans are used to it, or at least like you
and I. I would bet this quite strongly. If CNN
had us on and they said, hey, can you argue
(08:25):
the leftist perspective? I think you and I could argue
the left wing perspective better than most left wingers, because
in order to make right wing arguments or centrist arguments,
you have to understand the whole scope of argument. And
I don't think most Democrats do because they are so
out of touch with what Republicans are saying, whereas I
(08:45):
think republicans know very much what democrats are saying. The
exposure to arguments is much stronger on the right than
it is to the left. Oh, I could do a podcast,
you know, I could dye a patch of my hair
purple and get a nose ring or three, and I
could do a podcast as a leftist tomorrow, and as
long as I could disguise my voice, no one would
(09:07):
have any idea was to put on I know exactly
what they think.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's another difference about about left and right, And this
is there's been some pretty look, most sociology is just
the advancement of left wing ideology through the pseudo lens
of science or the lens of a pseudoscience. But there
has been some research to show this that when we
say this is what I think democrats think, not just
you and me meeting clay and but anyone on the
(09:30):
right has a much better idea of the left wing argument.
I mean, for example, the left wing argument, and you'll
see this all the time on abortion is always just
about they just say, you know, why do you want
to control our bodies? And they never even address because
they believe the right or the pro life position is
there's another body, there's a little baby, there's a little body.
They don't even address that. It's always just why do
(09:50):
you want to control our bodies? I mean they're saying
that Trump, the guy who was like the owner of
the Miss Universe competition, is going to force women into
Burkah's or or you know whatever it is from that
Handhandmaid's Tale. Yeah, this is it. Yeah, the burke is
obviously a Taliban thing. But I'm saying, like this is
this is insane. But I do think the conservatives have
a better understanding of what the other side believes. I
(10:12):
also think that the uh and this was a Christopher
Hitchins argument, who's now departed, was good on some things
and bad. He's kind of like rfkage you and you're
very good on some things, wrong on others. But he
would say that Clay, it's not just about your point
about the censorship and shutting down. It's not just that
you need to hear the right argument, which is the
the the answer that you get from so many of
(10:34):
the disinformation experts, and they all say that their voice
has to go up a few octaves. Disinformation Russia collusion.
It's that you need to hear the wrong argument too,
because then you can actually understand what the formulation is
for the other side and know that the right argument
is right. You can't actually know what the truth is
if you are never exposed to what is not true
(10:57):
in political argument, in political debate, you know what I mean,
That's another part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And also it allows you to know what the counter
punch is. No successful argument or debate can just be
you throwing punches. And a lot of people I talk
to this about the people we hire it out kick Hey,
you're going to write opinion pieces everything else. When you
write your opinion piece, make sure that you are aware
(11:22):
of what the two or three best counter punches are
to whatever your argument is. In an ideal world, you
address them in the context of your argument and dismiss them,
but at least be aware of it. And I think
what social media created, particularly on the left buck is
they don't actually consider when you throw a punch and look,
(11:44):
I box three days a week. I loved box. I
don't get punched, Thankfully, I got too much out of
my head. I gotta make sure that it still works.
But a huge part of training to box is not
just thinking about what you're doing on your initial punch.
It's that you have to contemplate the CounterPunch. And if
you watch boxing, people generally get knocked out, not because
(12:10):
they have not punched enough or something like that, it's
because when you punch, you open yourself up to a
devastating counter attack. And I don't think Democrats because they're
being protected by the media. They basically have officials jumping
in and trying to stop them from ever having to
take the consequences of their CounterPunch. Their ideas are flabby,
(12:30):
they're not in shape. And if Trump is disciplined in
six days, I think Kamala is going to leave herself
open to one devastating CounterPunch after another in that debate
because she's taken every side of every perspective. Now, I'm
not sure that Trump will be disciplined enough to kind
of weigh back. Trump is more of a puncher than
(12:50):
a counterpuncher, but you often win debates with counterpunches, not
with punches, and that to me is where Kamala and
many Democrats are wide open in this perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think she's also going to try to if she's
if she has any real skill or attacked up there,
which I'm not sure she will, but she's going to
try to get, you know, under Trump's skin and gone
off the handle on something that's the best. She's not
going to expose Trump on policy, because he's right on policy.
It's it's not about oh, when you know this thing
about Trump, then you're gonna it's she's going to try
(13:23):
to use. I should say, her only strategy to victor
true victory is she goes after Trump and tries to
bait him personally and get him to to flip out
up there.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
We can't have bad Trump that showed up for the
first debate against Joe Biden. Trump the worst debate performance
of Joe of Donald Trump's career, in my opinion, was
the first debate against Joe Biden in twenty twenty. If
he had had the same debate performance in the second debate,
I think Trump, even with all the rig job, would
have won. I think he lost a lot of people
(13:59):
with that first debate. He just needs to keep it
between the lines, don't perform poorly.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
He was excellent against Biden too. I know people can say, oh,
but you know it was so easy. No, he made
the right decision, which was let everyone see Biden. He
could have jumped in there and shouted and been too aggressive.
There are a lot of ways that he could have
at least run some unintentional interference for Biden. He didn't
do it. I thought he was excellent under the circumstances,
(14:26):
and I think that's proven by the reality that had
destroyed the Biden campaign. So look, is there rising crime
in America and a lot of cities. It's a mess.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Buck Tomorrow,
the NFL returns, And right before we went on the air,
Donald Trump posted on truth Social I don't know that
we've talked about this, but let me read what he said.
I want to thank beautiful Brittany Mahomes for so strongly
defending me. Uh, it's nice. And then he talks about
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nice to see someone who loves our country and wants
to save it from doom. What a great couple. See
you both at the super Bowl. Brittany Mahomes married to
Patrick Mahomes. I don't know that we've talked about this, Buck,
but Patrick Mahomes's Kansas City Chiefs are going to play
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And now Trump has thanked Brittany Mahomes for liking him,
saying that he will see them at the super Bowl.
This is intriguing. I would just toss this out. How
many women do you think are Trump supporters and married
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And the reason why I would bring it up. Is
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back to Clay and Cory Lewandowski is with us
from twenty twenty four, senior campaign official, a veteran of
the Trump Wars politically speaking, Good to have you back, Corey.
Thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, it's a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Look, let's get let's just give you the ball that
you're run with it here you have the connectivity and
the perspective to see how it's looking for Trump in
a way that everybody wants to hear. I mean, we
can just sort of start by honing in on some
of the battolet ground states. How's the campaign, how's the
ground game? How are we looking?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Let me give your listeners some historical perspective of this,
and I'll just go back four years of where the
campaign was on this day in twenty twenty on the
Real Clear Politics average. In twenty twenty, we were down
seven points to Joe Biden. Today Rasmusen has us up
four points. But let's go to the big states, the
states that are going to matter, where this election is
going to be decided first and foremost in Arizona. On
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this day four years ago, we were down five points
of Joe Biden. Today, according to Real Clear Politics, we're
up five point five for a net swing of ten
and a half points. When you look at where we
are in the battleground state of Michigan four years ago,
down three point three to Biden, today we're up two
point two for a net swing of five point five.
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And then let me just go down to Pennsylvania. We
were down three to six. We're now up three to
one for a net swing of six point seven. And lastly, Wisconsin,
Wisconsin today, four years ago we were down four point
four points. Today we're up three point zero and the
Real Claire average for a net of seven point four
point swing. All of that is to say we are
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in the strongest position Donald Trump has ever been in
his life to seek this reelection and have victory in November.
Absolutely no question.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Corey Kamala Harris's campaigning in New Hampshire today, I told
our audience we started the show, look at where Kamala
is going.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It will tell you how she sees the race.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Is it to you a sign of nerve br business
that Kamala is in New Hampshire and in Virginia, two
states that Biden won comfortably in twenty twenty one. New
Hampshire by seventy won Virginia by ten. Doesn't that kind
of indicate to all of us what her internal polling
is showing.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh, it absolutely does. Look you know, we've got public
polling that shows that the state of Virginia is a
three point race. Right now, We've got public polling that
shows that New Hampshire is dead. Even she is afraid
because if she loses the four electoral votes in New
Hampshire and the electoral votes in Virginia, she has no path.
Where is Donald Trump recently and where is he today? Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona,
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North Carolina, Rinse and repeat why, because that's where this
race is going to be won and lost. When you
look at the battleground states and my home state of
New Hampshire, we're going to continue to have people on
the ground there a strong presence. I will always advocate
for the President to go up and see those people.
But Kamalawa Harris, her first campaign stops of this election
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cycle are in a state like New Hampshire. It tells
you everything you need to know that she is so
concerned that she's going to lose that state that she's
putting her first campaign stops there, and look, I think
it's very possible she does lose. Donald Trump lost the
state of New Hampshire in twenty sixteen by about two
seven hundred votes. And now the people know what's at stake,
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and they know that his record will bring them economic prosperity,
shafety and security, and an opportunity for everybody in that
granted state to have a better future.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Speaking of Corey Lewandowski, senior campaign advisor for Trump twenty
twenty four, Corey, to that end, on the economic side
of things, what is the primary messaging that the campaign
has running in these particularly in the swing states, on
what the Trump economy would do? And also, how is
the Trump campaign defining the Kamala economy? Because I don't
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think that the Kamala campaign knows really, But so how's
that going?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, it's very simple, right, Donald Trump has a record
while he was in office of passing the largest tax
cut in American history. And what's amazing and your listener
should be aware of this is Donald Trump and Kamala
Harris have actually never met. And the reason for that
is because she was so ineffective as a US senator
that she wasn't part of any of these bipartisan negotiations
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to help provide economic relief to the American people. So
where are we right now? We know that the you
know what they used to call bidnomics, she's walking away from.
She's no longer supporting that because of the devastation has
entailed and told on the American families. It doesn't matter
if you are rich or poor, black or white, green
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or blue, it doesn't matter. You are feeling the crunch
of the Biden Harris Walls administration, which is more money
to put food on your plate, is more money to
put gas in your car, is more money to make
sure your kids have the school supplies that they need
to go back to school. And people are tired of
it because it's unsustainable.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Corey, when you look at the larger landscape of this race,
it seems to me the easiest path for Trump winning
is North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania. Now there's a lot of
other states we just mentioned New Hampshire, Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona.
There's a lot of states in play out there, But
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when you look at the map, is that the pathway
of Hey, we win North Carolina, we win Georgia, we
win Pennsylvania, those three states, and it's done. Is that
part of the way You're thinking, how would you assess
the map here as we sit sixty two days out?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, look, I think North Carolina's a state that's been
very good to us over the last two cycles. Georgia,
you know, is a state that we have clearly an
opportunity to be successful there. Historically speaking, they've a number
of Republicans who've been elected down there and has been
a state that's been good to us. That being said,
Pennsylvania is always the Great White Whale, and until Donald
Trump won it in twenty sixteen, Republicans always thought they
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could win it, but they could never pull it off.
But his message is particularly when he juxtaposed that to
Kamala's message of fracking, is what Donald Trump supports, she
opposes it. You know, we have seen what outsourcing jobs
has done to the state of Pennsylvania. We've seen what
the outsourcing of manufacturing has done. So Pennsylvania is a
(25:27):
battleground state, for sure. But look what we've been able
to do in Michigan. Look what the auto workers have
come around to Donald Trump because Joe Biden is willing
to put those autofactories down in Mexico. Look at the
state of Wisconsin, and I just want to go back
to those numbers. Four years ago today we were down
full point four points in Wisconsin. Today we're up three.
(25:49):
If anybody thinks that Tim Wallas has been in addition
to this campaign for Kamala Harris, they are sorely mistaken.
He is the most, if not the most very close
to the most radical governor in America, and his Midwest
values have not given them any bump in those battleground
states of Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Corey, we know you talked to Trump on a regular
daily basis. The debate coming up, there's one debate that
Kamala has agreed to so far, Right's still just one.
I think that she said, okay, yeah, I'll show up
for that one. What should we expect from the big guy?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Look, I think Donald Trump has been preparing for debates
his entire life. We know that, and I've heard it
hundreds of times. If Donald Trump would just do this,
he will win, or if he'll just stop talking. You know,
he has a record of winning presidential debates, whether it
was in the primary process all the way back in
fifteen and sixteen, which I know many of you remember,
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or it was when he debated Hillary Clinton and he
said you'd be in jail. It was that one liner,
the off the cuff, you know, extemporaneous statement that he
made that everybody started laughing. Or at the last debate, well,
Joe Biden is ruling on himself and Donald Trump turned
and said, I don't know what that guy just said,
and either does he. I mean, you know, it's so
funny because this guy has such a quick wit that
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I would anticipate a line like that is going to
happen in this debate, and it's going to show the
humanization of Donald Trump, because I believe Kamala Harris is
just going to try and be a robot. She's going
to tell us how she prosecutes criminals like Donald Trump,
and how she has made her way and broken through
the glass ceiling and all of those things. The reality
is she doesn't know what she's for and what she's against.
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And this is going to be the first time truly
that the American people will have a chance to see
and hear from her because most of the media has
given her a free pass for the last forty five days.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Corey, do you think that Kamala camp is starting to
panic a little bit? It feels like they got the
sugar high in August, then they didn't get as much
as they thought coming out of the DNC, and the
numbers have continued to tick back. Have you seen that
in the internal pole with the Trump team and does
that kind of characterize why we've seen it feels sort
(28:05):
of like a frenetic Kamala Harris campaign of late, where
they're just desperately trying to erase the things that she
said she's four in the past and now claim she's
against them.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, her staff is out actively telling all the members
of the media what Kamala now stands for. We haven't
heard it from her, we haven't heard it from the candidate,
but our staff is doing it on Friday nights and
you know, privately with members of the media because they're
afraid because coming off of the Democrat Convention, she should
have gotten a five to seven point bump, but she
did not. And the reason she didn't get that bump
(28:38):
partially is because we received and secured the RFK endorsement
the following day. And I don't want to overlook that,
but that RFK endorsement in Glendale, Arizona might have been
the largest crowd and rally and applause I have ever
heard for anybody on a debate on a stage other
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than Donald John's Trump. The crowd was in love with
this guy. And what we're seeing and what the polling
data is indicating is those women who are twenty five
to forty years old, who have multiple children or children
are coming to the Trump campaign in record numbers because
they're concerned about what Kamala and Joe did to their
kids forcing them. With the vaccines and the RFK Junior
(29:22):
endorsement and the Tulsa Gabbard endorsement are paying significant dividends
of the campaign in both the short term and then
we'll continue to do so in the long term.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
We got one more question for you from one of
our VIPs. VIP Joe asks Corey where all the commercials?
Please tell me the battleground states are going to get
flooded with commercials. I haven't heard or seen one single
Trump commercial. What can you tell me about how he's
in by the way in Mississippi. So I think some
people out there in red states are seeing I ain't seeing much.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Corey.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
My bet is going to be you're feeling pretty good
about a lot of states.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah. Look, if we got trouble in Mississippi, fellaws, we're
in big right. I think we're gonna be okay down
and those are our people. But that said, don't forget.
We are just under nine weeks away from election day,
although early voting in balloty going out as early as
Saturday in the States, So we are running TV commercials.
But I want people to remember this, fifty percent of
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the electorate no longer receives their communication from television, from
mainstream media. They getting it through social media platforms, They're
getting it from their phone. So our ability to communicate
with those people continue to evolves as the delivery platforms
continue to evolve. And that's what we're trying to do
is make sure that the right people are getting the
right messages at the right time.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Corey Buck and I have both said that we're going
to vote early. We're going to get our ballot in.
For people out there that are listening right now, would
you encourage them to go vote early? If so, why
what is the impact?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Well, let me tell you something. I am a big
believer and now I live in a state of New
Hampshire that we don't have really voting. We don't have
a voting You have to vote on election day shy
of you know, a major health crisis. But in places
that allow people to vote early, absolutely take that opportunity.
You know, Republicans always win on election day because our
(31:15):
people tend to wait. But the Democrats have mastered disability
to go to people and get them to vote early
and put that money in the bank for later. To
put that vote in the bank for later. I think
what we're going to see It may just be one debate,
It may be and maybe two or three. We don't know.
Kamala's team won't commit to that. But if you get
your ballot, don't wait and hold it for sixty days.
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If you already know that you're voting for Donald Trump,
you put your name on that envelope, fill it out,
vote for Donald Trump, and get it back in. Because
that's how we're going to be successful is making sure
that every person who has the opportunity to vote early
is doing that. And if we can maintain parody with
the Democrats and their early vote in the addit voting,
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we know that we'll win on election day and we
have to have a system and an election outcome that's
too big to rig.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Corey, keep up the good work. Tell President Trump to
have fun tonight in Harrisburg with Sean Hannity. We know
he will in six days from now. We can't wait
to watch that first debate.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
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Speaker 3 (33:33):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Brand new breaking news story.
By the way, Kamala Harris, this is from the Wall
Street Journal literally just popped up. Kamala Harris evidently getting
so much heat on her economic policies that she is
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not going to increase the capital gains tax rate as
much as President Biden to do. She's supposed to speak
Wednesday afternoon, New Hampshire. They're declining to comment but they
are now saying that they will not be willing to
increase as much as had previously been the case. Now
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it's still going to be awful for anybody out there
that is involved in making investments. You don't want to
be involved in the Kamala Harris economic plan. But she
is supposedly going to address this in New Hampshire, and
you just heard from Corey Lewandowski. I think this is
a big deal. The fact that Kamala Harris, immediately after
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the start of the official race, right with Labor Day,
would run to New Hampshire is a sign that the
polling is really moving in a bad direction for her.
And in fact, as I am talking to all of you,
Trump has now opened up a six point lead in
the gambling markets in Pennsylvania. What you should be preparing
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for is pure desperation in the next several weeks, particularly
if the debate six days from now doesn't really break
Kamala's way. Buck you just mentioned with Corey, I do
think this is significant. Trump said, hey, I'll debate you
two times three times. He's gonna be on with Sean
Hannity tonight from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Kamala has still only committed
(35:24):
to one debate. I think she's waiting to see how
September tenth goes and how her polling looks to make
a decision about whether she wants to debate Trump more
than once. I really think that's why she hasn't made
that direct pronouncement of sure, I'll do two debates, I'll
do three debates. I think she's hoping to get away
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with only one. I really do. Oh yeah, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Look, Biden should have taken my advice given freely on
this air, which was that he shouldn't have debated Trump.
He'd be the nominee. And I think the Democrats without
that debate, I think Biden's far more competitive against Trump
than people realize now. But with Kamala, familiarity breeds concern
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among Democrats when it comes to this campaign. The more
they know, the more they're like, I don't think we
can get this done. So one debate one and done.
Absolutely my expectation. But I think she's going to be
in rough shape. And I actually think Trump's going to
have an interesting decision to make because if he continues
to have things move in his direction and does a
(36:32):
good job, which I think he will on September tenth.
I think she's going to be begging for debates and
Trump won't actually necessarily need to do for them, which
would put her in a really tough spot. Play some
audio for you, Stelter back on C and N when
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