January 4, 2025 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy New Year. This is the best of show with
Clay and Buck. We are joined now by our good
friend Bill O'Reilly. He's got a brand new column out,
got a brand new book on the New York Times
bestseller list. A lot going on in his world. And Bill,
let's start with this. You've known Trump for a while.
(00:20):
It seems like Trump right now is maybe the most confident,
comfortable version of Trump that we have ever seen. All
of the big tech CEOs are lining up, all the
big CEOs in general are lining up to come to
mar A Lago. There seems to be very limited resistance
to him. How would you assess Trump as a leader
(00:41):
compared to how you have seen him in the past?
And do you agree that he feels incredibly comfortable as
he prepares to step into the role of president again
next month?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, he won, and it's all about winning. So he
not only did he come Harris, he defeated the Democratic Party,
he defeated the corrupt media. He defeated the midgets overseas.
Are you allowed to say midgets the word.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're bringing it back, We're bringing it back.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Fair, Bill, You got to be careful. It's a guy
who's like six ' nine. You know, I'm not sure
what qualifies, but keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, I'm saying mental midgets, but the word midget, you
don't hear it anymore. Anyway. I don't want to be offensive,
you know me, I'd like everybody to be woke. But
he won across the board. That he ran the table,
as they say in billiards. And so the surprise is
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that he's not gloating per se. And I have to
amend that by saying I've known him for thirty five years.
Can you imagine that thirty five years and when he
was with me, like going to the Nick game or
the Metal Yankee games, I never saw him gloat ever,
But he wasn't in policy takes that. He's a business guy,
(02:04):
but he has a tendency to do two things, get
angry and react emotionally from the anger, and then when
things go his way, it gets a little houghty. And
you did not You're absolutely correct in a press conference, Yester,
you did not see that. And I believe it's two reasons.
(02:27):
And I can't tell you anymore because I can't violate confidences,
but I know this to be true. He's looking to
his legacy now he wants to do the best job
he could ever do, so he goes down in history
alongside people like Ronald Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, modern Presidentcy succeeded.
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And so whether or not that does a data that
is affecting him day to day, I don't know. I'm
not around him, but I know that the ultimate goal
of Donald Trump now is have a very successful four
years and conduct himself in a way that catapults him
into the history books.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Bill, you nailed what was going to happen in advance.
I think Clay might have been out that day. But
when we talked about Daniel Penny and the verdict coming,
I was concerned you were seguine about the fact that
this jury was going to see through it. There was
no wavering in your assessment. So I wanted to give
you full credit on that. But it seems that this
(03:29):
is clearly a turning of the tide in some way
when it comes to the way New Yorkers feel about
crime and criminal justice. Donald Trump invited Penny, as we
know Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy game with him,
So this is a national level conversation that's happening. Do
you think that it is symbolic of a new direction
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perhaps for New York City. And do you think Eric Adams,
the Mayor of New York may play a role in this,
because he's been saying some interesting stuff now and we
know he's got the heads after him and Trump might
help him.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Eric Adams is done in New York. He's not going
to be the next mayor. There's a variety of reasons why.
I don't think he's a bad man, but he could
not reverse the horrible policies to build the Blasio and
things actually got worse in the city under Adams' tenure.
(04:28):
Is New York changing a little bit? Manhattan is changing
a little bit, not as much as the suburbs and
the countryside and upstate New York they're going red. But
the city is dominated by the Democratic machine all the
way back to Boss Tweed. And I think he had
a show on wor Boss Twee did anyway in about
(04:51):
thirty five years ago. Anyway, you know your New York history.
He ran the city and Chester Arthur became president because
of Tweed, and the machine still prevails in the five boroughs,
with the exceptions Staten Island. This that Island's kind of
independent anyway, there's a long winded answer to say, no,
(05:13):
the culture has not changed. The far left culture that
dominates Albany and Manhattan is still in place. They are
on the run because things are so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Bill so Buck and I were just talking an hour
one that the Trump resistance appears to have collapsed. Even
if you go back to twenty sixteen, when he got elected,
there was almost immediately this idea of, oh, we're going
to oppose him, We'll do the Women's March. Yeah, the
resistance was a big thing. I just saw where AOC
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lost her bid to be elevated in the Democrat pantheon
of leadership. There doesn't even seem to be Yeah, Nancy
Pelosi got to win, even though I think he's in
a hospital in Europe right now, there doesn't seem to
be really even an adversary that is anywhere near on
the level of Trump in the Democrat Party right now.
(06:12):
How much can Trump get done and how quickly and
how much different are we looking at the situation in
twenty twenty five compared to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh huge. In seventeen, Donald Trump didn't know what he
was doing and he'll admit it. And he brought in
people like Rex to listen to me, Secretary of State
who couldn't possibly do the job. And what's his name
is Attorney General Sessions. Yeah, ridiculous. They were ridiculous now
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and this is fascinating. And you ask a very good question.
The way that the Trump administration is going to run
for at least two years, and I say two because
it depends how successful they are, is exactly the way
Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran his administrations. And when I said
that to Trump himself, I don't think he knew that.
(07:06):
And I said, look, he need to read Confronting the Presidents.
I know you don't read too many books. He saw
the documentary on News Nation Trump then we discussed it extensively,
but he didn't read the book. And I said, when
Roosevelt came in, the depression was just hammering everybody in
the country. And Herbert Ruver was one of the biggest
failed presidents of all time. The guy had no clue.
(07:28):
So what Roosevelt did was he hired his buddies from
Harvard and Columbia Universities. They had a little cabinet in
the White House they didn't even have offices. These guys,
they just showed up at the White House. They made
all the decisions, and then the decisions came out from
the White House into the departments, and the department has
executed those decisions. Exactly what this is going to happen now,
(07:52):
But it didn't happen four years ago. There there were
fiefdoms that were making crazy decisions. And Trump was consulted,
but he was so overwhelmed by the whole scenario as
any human being would be with no political background whatsoever.
Wasn't even an intern for any political person. But Roosevelt
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ran that government for four terms. Remember he's on four
terms basically by himself with his guys, and they said
do this, and then people did it. And that's what's
going to happen now, which is why Trump nominated all
of these loyalists to him, because they're not going to
have any power at all none.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Bill Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I'm also wondering if you could tell us what you
think if you had a ninety day and maybe the
kind of ninety second version of the ninety day plan,
if you will, a ninety day plan for Trump, because
it does feel like right now the opening He's got
the pieces lined up around him, and the opening is
bigger than it has been. The mandate is more definitive
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than has been ever before for Trump to do big
things and get things done. What does the first ninety
days have to look like for the right tone, the
right accomplishments to be set.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Another good question, Zori. A deal in place for ceasefire
in Ukraine. I understand it's a back door deal. He's
got to get the hostages out, and Biden did not
help him Friday by allowing ten billion dollars to flow
into the Mulla's hands, because the Mullas are the key
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to get those hostages out. And Biden is such an idiot,
and I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be disrespectful, but he
is an idiot that he undermined the hostage released by
giving those savages in Iran that money. But anyway, Trump
is going to be able to tamp it down in
the Ukraine. Don't know what's going to happen in the
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Middle East. He's going to be able to seal up
the border very quickly. And if Claudia Schanbaum, the new
as in Mexico, doesn't cooperate, Trump can break her economy
in two weeks. Two weeks. That's why Justin Trudeau high
tailed it down to mar Alago because he doesn't want
that to happen in Canada, so the border will be solidified.
(10:14):
Then they've had to back home into all right, how
are we going to track down these criminal aliens? And
my commentary is, if anyone does not cooperate with you,
a mister president, you arrest them. Your Pam BONDI put
the head of the FBI, which will probably be Cash Bettel,
on a plane to lands in California, puts the handcuffs
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on the governor if necessary, of that state, and you
charge and indict him. You do that one time, and
that whole sanctuary city collapses, Everything collapses. They're going to
have to do that, maybe the wool in Boston, maybe
to the San Diego people, maybe to the LA people.
(10:57):
But that's what you do. And so I think that
he's got a feel to play that can be very
very successful, very quickly. But he has to be disciplined
and he has to tell the American people what he's
doing and why he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Bill, what do you think we should be aware of that?
Maybe we're not contemplating as we get closer to the inauguration,
is there anything that you think is a dirty trick
that Democrats are going to play, anything that you think
Trump should be leery of, because again we're talking about
the fact that they really haven't been able to create
(11:38):
any sort of obstacle to him. Is there anything you're
expecting them to attempt early on that he should be
really on top of it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
There's no leadership in the Democratic Party at all. None
is no one in charge. So that's a huge advantage.
Donald Trump has to watch Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't
think he's going to make it okay. So I'm sure
he's got a backup for Kennedy because he had a
backup for Gates. I knew right away the Gates wasn't
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going to make it, and I said, man, Pam BONDI
will be And all of my commentary, by the way,
is on Bill O'Reilly dot com. That's where we live,
and you know we're ninety percent accurate. So R. K.
Junior is not gonna He's gonna get down. I don't
know about Haig Smith. I don't know his other stuff
are swirling around there, but he hasn't got a fair
(12:29):
shot in the media. He said he's going to have
to sell himself in to the Senator's Republican senators. It's
a tough sell. He has no experience, and the Pentagon's
the largest corporation in the world. Tough sell. So Trump
is that's where his deficis, if you want to call
him that lie. But the Democratic Party they got nothing
(12:52):
right now. They're on the run. They're collapsing. And if
Trump is successful, JD. Vanis is going to walk in
in four years.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
All right, go to Bill One more for you, quick
one before you go. If you have to tell us
what your favorite Christmas movie is? No hedging. What is
your favorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Christmas? Carol? Alice Stair Sims. I am the second one
in the series by far the best.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm adding into the list. Wife and I are gonna
watch it right after Diehard this weekend. Bill o'relly, everybody,
go to Bill rally dot com. Doing great commentary there
and also confronting the president's latest best seller. Great gift
for the holiday, Uncle Bill. Merry Christmas to you, sir,
Thank you as always for joining us. We always appreciate
you making the time.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, I hope you guys have a great Christmas, and
I want to tell you that I really appreciate you
guys having me on the program, and I thank you
very much for doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You know, Clay, I like to tell the truth here always,
and sometimes the truth gets you a little bit of trouble.
You turned me on to Yellowstone, which my wife also
had seen some of, because you know, I think there
have been an You season or two before we teamed up, right,
But so you said it's really good. I started watching it.
(14:13):
Kerry likes it. We watched it, and overall I really
enjoyed the show. But a couple of things come to mind.
One is what the heck is Kevin Costner doing not
showing up for the last six episodes to do a
movie that is so awful that he like isn't even
releasing the rest of it or something. There's like a
series he was doing. How did that happen? But then
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also did the writers just you know, not show up?
Like what what happened here? Clay? The finale, you, I'll
you could give it you're out of ten grade. I
give it a four. I give it a five. I
wanted it to be a lot better. I finished it
last night. It's most popular television show out there. I
feel like it probably over indexes in this audience that
is a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Of you watch it. I wanted it to be good.
I don't know what Kevin Costner's thinking walking away from
the final six episodes or whatever it was that he
could have otherwise filmed and gone out with a with
a nice conclusion potentially, but it was just thoroughly a mess.
The final six episodes didn't make sense chronologically. They had
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random music guests. You know a show starting downhill when
they just have like random interludes where they're singers in
a drama show, remember that, Like Beverly Hills nine two
and oh every now and then in the late they
they started like the peach Pit after dark and they
started having all the bands, and you're like, they don't
even know what to do anymore. They just put a
band on.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It jumped the shark, Yes, just like the Fons jumping
a shark in The Happy Days. It jumped the shark.
And it was a shame because there was so much
good stuff in it. I mean, it was never a
realistic show, but it just sort of turned into I
know some of you are gonna hate. You're gonna hate
this analysis. That's fine. You can write at us and
yell at us, you can even call us. But unfortunately
this analysis is accurate.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It is one hundred percent we'lcome back in Christmas music season.
I used to joke Buck when I did my sports
talk show because this would happen everywhere. You know, every
station starts getting dominated in the ratings by Christmas music.
It doesn't matter what you do. It can be rap music,
it can mean rock music, it can be classical music,
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talk radio, sports, talk radio, politics, current events. All of
us start getting smoked in marketplaces by just twenty four
hour Christmas music. And I used to joke, can we
just take off December and just you know, play Christmas
music for the whole month, like our ratings will be
incredible and we'll come back after the first of the year.
And so anyway, Christmas music, wherever you are is dominating.
(16:44):
We appreciate you spending your time with us. And I
wanted to play this because we were talking about the
impact of Caitlin Clark WNBA twenty five years losing money
and one of the owners of the Washington Mystics the Washington,
DC area WNBA franchise, which, by the way, buck the
(17:06):
only time they actually had sellouts all season long was
when Caitlyn Clark came to town to play and people
showed up to watch her. I believe they moved into
the Big Arena where the NBA team plays, which they
almost never do because they had so much ticket demand.
While the owner of the WNBA franchise, she was upset,
(17:31):
so Caitlyn Clark bending the knee and apologizing for her
white privilege. It didn't work. And this is what the
Washington Mystics owner had to say on CNN.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I feel really bad because I've seen so many players
of color that are equally as talented and they never
got the recognition that they should have. And I think
right now it is time for that to happen. So
last night we read Time magazine where Caitlin Clark was
named Athlete of the Year. Why couldn't they have put
the whole w NBA on that cover instead. The w
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NBA is the League of the Year because of all
the talent that we have. Because when you just keep
singling out one player, it creates hard feelings. And so
now you're starting to hear stories of racism within the WNBA,
and I don't want.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To hear that.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
We have got to operate and become stronger as a
league and respect everybody that's playing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The white girl can't be getting attention because it creates
racism in the league. I can't believe this is real.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And again I think, I think there is racism, and
then you're directed at the white girl.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's right. And I asked the question, can anybody else
out there speak to a situation like this happening in
any league that actually makes money. I know there's sometimes
a resentment over rookies coming in and making more money.
I mean, that's not uncommon. They've had to change some
of the CBA rules as a result or people being
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unhappy because the new quarterback is going to get a
job and he hasn't necessarily earned. I mean, all that's
pretty common. But I can't remember anybody ever throwing a
fit in the NFL over who gets on the cover
of a magazine. I don't remember in Major League Baseball,
in even an MLS. To your point, I haven't heard
anybody saying, oh, how dare MESSI come into the MLS
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and get all this attention with the Miami team, or
back in the day, Beckham comes in with the LA
Galaxy and he gets all this attention. I think men Again,
I hate to make it based on based on sex,
but I think men's sports leagues in general understand that
all attention ultimately raises the level of compensation that everybody's
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gonna get. Doesn't mean there's not intense competition, but I
can't remember a male sports league in my life engaging
in behavior like what's happening to Caitlin Clark. And again,
I feel like a a lot of people out there
are going to tune out this league because they're gonna say, hey,
I tried it out. I like Caitlyn Clark, but a
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lot of the league, the vibe, the culture is so unlikable.
Why would I give them my money? In time?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, also, you had this from the she's the owner.
What's her title?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
This? Ye, she owns the Washington Mystics. Is the one
in Washington Mystic.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You have?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
She says. You know, other players are as talented, but
the audience gets to decide who they think the most
talented is. The audience is the vote that matters in
all of this the fans, that's who matters in all
of this, and they have spoken very clearly they are
very excited about Kaitlyn Clark as an athlete. And you know,
it's funny. I never thought I'd talk about the WNBA
so much. I don't think it's a fun product to watch.
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I don't I don't enjoy I'm not alone there, obviously.
I think very few people do really enjoy it. And
and it's really kind of like a participation trophy league. Yeah,
now you have real excitement and real dollar coming in,
and you see the mentality exposed of of some of
the people. Many of the people who are are in
that league, they would rather be irrelevant and poorly paid
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than more relevant and better paid as long as they
get to take shots at the new girl on the block.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I love everything you're saying. I'm laughing for those watching
on video because it's reminding me of when you ripped
some oone Biles and like everybody came after you. You didn't
say anything different than what I said, but somehow you
got all the headlines. I'm just laughing right now because
so that was.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
That was where Everard's like, she's so brave because she
stepped out because she was having emotional issues or something.
I'm like, that's not brave. That's fine. It's not brave though.
It's just you know, you got to accurate if if
you have if you have a sprained ankle and you say, look,
I can't go forward. Yeah, okay, that's it's It's neither
brave nor cowardly. It's just you got to take care
of yourself. You step aside, you do that for psychological reasons.
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That's fine too. But everyone's second it's so brave. No,
that's not. Actually, they got to live in reality. And
man I got I got hammered on that one by
But the communists, Clay, they don't. They they used to
just get all, you know, they get all upset about
something and they create a tempest in a teapot. And
they can't do it the same way anymore. Well, honestly,
in the in the Elon era of X, I haven't
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been dragged, truly dragged, which is when all the all
the communists start yeah, and they all start piling on, Yeah,
how's it happened? Once? This was purely a you know,
when when the X was run by a bunch of
social justice Warrior. Uh you know, uh, estrogen athletes. That's
when this stuff used to happen. All that being said,
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you've not said anything different than me. It was gonna
be really funny if you get ripped for your take
on Caitlin Clark, somebody grabs a clip. Now, I do
want to play this, which I think ties in with
what you just said.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Steven A. Smith, who we need to get on the show.
I've done his show a couple of times. He said
he wanted to come on. He's gonna make one hundred
million dollars soon from ESPN. He has become unburdened by
what has been in the past. I'm trying to quote
Kamalain probably not doing that perfectly unburdened by what has been.
And he came out, and I do think this is
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emblematic of the major vibe shift that we were talking
about earlier. Buck he came out and said, Hey, this
whole jan sixth thing, the government, Yeah, they had a
bunch of people that were basically covert agents inside of
this group that was storming the capitol. I think they
said what twenty six people is the number that the
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FBI says were agents working on their behalf inside of
this crowd. That's the ones that they're acknowledging, several of
whom went into the Capitol and Stephen A. Smith went
on his show and said, Hey, Donald Trump's right about
another thing. There are a lot of red pill moments happening.
I want to play that, and I want to get
your reaction to it, buck to the democratic plot.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You know what I'm getting really pissed off about.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He didn't really ticked off.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And every time they opened their mouth about something pertaining
to y'all, they seem right to make the case that
the right had a monopoly on insidious, evil tendencies, corrupt tendencies, duplicitous, hypocritical,
untruthful tendencies. And every time they made those accusations, we
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turn around and find out that at least some of
them are guilty of the same. I don't know about y'all,
but I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of
all of it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
They've actually made.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Donald Trump look like he was right instead of them.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well he was, So it's not just looks that way,
but is what's going on here in your mind? Is
this a genuine recognition and pivot by Stephen A. Smith,
or is it Hey, I saw what happened in the election,
and now there is freedom to be able to address
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some of these things, like what is going on.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think this is more ought. I think this is
more going where the audience is than anything else. But
I don't think it's in I don't think it's only
that I don't know Steven A. Smith. I never talked
to him, you know, so I'm not familiar with his work,
but I am familiar with the trend you are seeing
now of more and more people who, particularly men in
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the commentary space, okay, whether it's sports, politics, whatever, who
don't feel the need to say the crazy woke stuff anymore.
That I just refuse to believe that they believe.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's just there's no like the you know, women don't
have a disadvantage against men and sports stuff, right, I mean,
this is crazy and that's one example. There are many
examples of it, though, you know, I thought it was
interesting how much it's it's caught on clay that Tim
Walls lying about some stuff was what turned Joe Rogan
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particularly political in this election, that he just felt like
this guy was just lying about core stuff about who
he is and the whole thing too with it, like, oh,
I wor Camo and Carhart. Now I'm just a guy
like the guys. But I mean, really, you know he
was jazz hands. Like no one really bought this about
Tim Walls that there was I think there's resentment from
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people who felt like they had to tow this line
because they didn't want to deal with the backlash. I
think Stephen Smith, Stephen A. Smith? Do I have to
always say the a Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Smith is otherwise maybe the most common name in America?
Oh okay, well Steven Smith. There's a lot of dudes.
So I think he needed the initials so that he
would be recognized.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So I just I would say this. I think it's
a component. It's two things. It's the freedom to speak
the truth that he always knew at some level. But
I also think it's mostly this is where the audiences
are going. I don't know what is going on with
the left these days, Like who actually believes any of
this crap? Like who's watching these shows now that we're
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all you can't tell somebody that fascism is coming in
Hitler is going to destroy the whole country, and then
that guy actually becomes president and everything's looking great, and
the markets are booming, and business is excited, and it's
looking great for everybody, And what exactly are you selling
here on these channels. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But you went to breakfast with them, which is what
Morning Joe and Mika did. It's not even that all
those things are happening, it's that I think maybe you
shouldn't brunch with Hitler, you know, if you truly believe
that Trump is Hitler. And I think this is I
don't begrudge anybody who bought into all those lies. I
do think there is an element of the stacking of
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all the lies have finally caught up with him. And
I think it's the combo buck of saying Biden was
sharp as attack behind closed doors. No one can make
that argument. I mean, Biden can barely speak. And then
Trump winning it ended any of their legitimacy because they
immediately pivoted and said, oh, Kamala is actually like as
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soon as you were telling me that Biden was sharp
as attack behind closed doors and that Kamala was running
a flawless campaign, and then Trump smokes Biden on June
twenty seventh and then smokes Kamala on November fifth. I
think the double barrel of those outcomes in many respects
destroyed the legitimacy of those networks, and I think it.
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I don't know how you come back from it. I
really don't. I think they're going to have to. Basically,
you know, when a team gets really bad, you have
to kind of clean the deck. You're just like, man,
we like trade, everybody, fire everybody like, we're just going
to rebuild from the studs up. Another analogy would be
if you got an old home, sooner or later, you
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got to stop with just the rehab, and you have
to acknowledge the whole thing needs to be torn down
and rebuilt. The Democrat Party to me right now, and
the media that supports it needs to be torn down
and rebuilt. I think that's the reality. They're fighting it,
but I think it's the reality. Welcome back in Clay
Travis buck Sexton show, Buck, you blew my mind This morning.
(29:10):
I'm doing my show prep and I look down on
my phone scrolling through, and your lovely wife Carrie had
never seen the movie die Hard, and I I just
I this is a thing that is actually really common.
I think with younger women. I think most men, of
(29:33):
most agents, you agree, like, most men have seen die Hard.
Even if you're twenty five and you're listening to us
right now and you're a guy, you've seen die Hard.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
But this, I think it's hard to even identify as
a guy if you haven't seen die Hard. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But I agree with that. And this happened to me
is the first time I felt old. About a decade ago,
I was in La. Fox Sports is actually at the
intersection of Pico and Mode. For those of you listening
in La or have spent time out in West La
and the Knaka Toomy tower building that they used as
(30:08):
the as the sort of the outdoor vision of the movie.
The setting it's right by the Fox A lot, and
we were driving by, and a lot of production assistants
on television are young, and they were in the car.
There's like two or three girls and two or three guys.
The girls had never heard of the movie, had never
(30:30):
seen the movie die Hard, and so when we the
guys were all in the car talking about, Hey, that's
that's Knokotomby tower. They had no earthly idea. And now
I hear Carrie hasn't. And I think this is a
trend out there. I think there are lots of girls twenties, thirties,
youngish that have never seen this movie. So you have
got a plan.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Now, I think, Well, she's she said she has seen
parts of it, but I have been in an endless
loop over here as we're you know, prepping the home
with the trigue and the and the little Red done
the stockings and all this stuff of as I said,
these Hallmark Christmas movies, which we had some fun talking
about yesterday, and all of you, by the way, who
(31:07):
knew what we're talking about, know that we're nailing it.
I mean, that's it's always the same plot. The whole
thing is like very it's very formulae. But that's fun
fun for people. I'm not talking about the classics. I'm
talking about the Hallmark, these Hallmark Christmas movies. So I
just said to I said, honey, you know we're gonna
be you know, Friday night, we're just gonna be hanging out,
you and me, So why don't we and Ginger, why
(31:28):
don't we watch die Hard? She says she has seen
parts of it, but I was I had to tell
her right away That is not the answer to have
I've seen?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Or have you not seen? Die Hard needs to be yes,
it can't be. I've seen parts of it. So I
think we're gonna be hanging with John McClain barefoot, running
around Nakotomi Tower with his little his little HK and
it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
How many movies are better than die Hard from a
adventure perspective, I think they can.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Make us case that Diehard is the greatest action movie
of all time. I'm not saying it is definitively. I'm
saying it is a contender. You could argue greatest action
movie of all time.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I think you have to say are rated, because obviously
then the Indiana Jones movies are action like can kind
of get right there? See those?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Remember the old movie rental places? Those would go under
action slash adventure.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I remember that
Happy New Year. This is the best of show with
Clay and Buck. We are joined now by our good
friend Bill O'Reilly. He's got a brand new column out,
got a brand new book on the New York Times
bestseller list. A lot going on in his world. And Bill,
let's start with this. You've known Trump for a while.
(00:20):
It seems like Trump right now is maybe the most confident,
comfortable version of Trump that we have ever seen. All
of the big tech CEOs are lining up, all the
big CEOs in general are lining up to come to
mar A Lago. There seems to be very limited resistance
to him. How would you assess Trump as a leader
(00:41):
compared to how you have seen him in the past?
And do you agree that he feels incredibly comfortable as
he prepares to step into the role of president again
next month?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, he won, and it's all about winning. So he
not only did he come Harris, he defeated the Democratic Party,
he defeated the corrupt media. He defeated the midgets overseas.
Are you allowed to say midgets the word.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're bringing it back, We're bringing it back.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Fair, Bill, You got to be careful. It's a guy
who's like six ' nine. You know, I'm not sure
what qualifies, but keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, I'm saying mental midgets, but the word midget, you
don't hear it anymore. Anyway. I don't want to be offensive,
you know me, I'd like everybody to be woke. But
he won across the board. That he ran the table,
as they say in billiards. And so the surprise is
(01:42):
that he's not gloating per se. And I have to
amend that by saying I've known him for thirty five years.
Can you imagine that thirty five years and when he
was with me, like going to the Nick game or
the Metal Yankee games, I never saw him gloat ever,
But he wasn't in policy takes that. He's a business guy,
(02:04):
but he has a tendency to do two things, get
angry and react emotionally from the anger, and then when
things go his way, it gets a little houghty. And
you did not You're absolutely correct in a press conference, Yester,
you did not see that. And I believe it's two reasons.
(02:27):
And I can't tell you anymore because I can't violate confidences,
but I know this to be true. He's looking to
his legacy now he wants to do the best job
he could ever do, so he goes down in history
alongside people like Ronald Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, modern Presidentcy succeeded.
(02:48):
And so whether or not that does a data that
is affecting him day to day, I don't know. I'm
not around him, but I know that the ultimate goal
of Donald Trump now is have a very successful four
years and conduct himself in a way that catapults him
into the history books.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Bill, you nailed what was going to happen in advance.
I think Clay might have been out that day. But
when we talked about Daniel Penny and the verdict coming,
I was concerned you were seguine about the fact that
this jury was going to see through it. There was
no wavering in your assessment. So I wanted to give
you full credit on that. But it seems that this
(03:29):
is clearly a turning of the tide in some way
when it comes to the way New Yorkers feel about
crime and criminal justice. Donald Trump invited Penny, as we
know Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy game with him,
So this is a national level conversation that's happening. Do
you think that it is symbolic of a new direction
(03:51):
perhaps for New York City. And do you think Eric Adams,
the Mayor of New York may play a role in this,
because he's been saying some interesting stuff now and we
know he's got the heads after him and Trump might
help him.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Eric Adams is done in New York. He's not going
to be the next mayor. There's a variety of reasons why.
I don't think he's a bad man, but he could
not reverse the horrible policies to build the Blasio and
things actually got worse in the city under Adams' tenure.
(04:28):
Is New York changing a little bit? Manhattan is changing
a little bit, not as much as the suburbs and
the countryside and upstate New York they're going red. But
the city is dominated by the Democratic machine all the
way back to Boss Tweed. And I think he had
a show on wor Boss Twee did anyway in about
(04:51):
thirty five years ago. Anyway, you know your New York history.
He ran the city and Chester Arthur became president because
of Tweed, and the machine still prevails in the five boroughs,
with the exceptions Staten Island. This that Island's kind of
independent anyway, there's a long winded answer to say, no,
(05:13):
the culture has not changed. The far left culture that
dominates Albany and Manhattan is still in place. They are
on the run because things are so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Bill so Buck and I were just talking an hour
one that the Trump resistance appears to have collapsed. Even
if you go back to twenty sixteen, when he got elected,
there was almost immediately this idea of, oh, we're going
to oppose him, We'll do the Women's March. Yeah, the
resistance was a big thing. I just saw where AOC
(05:48):
lost her bid to be elevated in the Democrat pantheon
of leadership. There doesn't even seem to be Yeah, Nancy
Pelosi got to win, even though I think he's in
a hospital in Europe right now, there doesn't seem to
be really even an adversary that is anywhere near on
the level of Trump in the Democrat Party right now.
(06:12):
How much can Trump get done and how quickly and
how much different are we looking at the situation in
twenty twenty five compared to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh huge. In seventeen, Donald Trump didn't know what he
was doing and he'll admit it. And he brought in
people like Rex to listen to me, Secretary of State
who couldn't possibly do the job. And what's his name
is Attorney General Sessions. Yeah, ridiculous. They were ridiculous now
(06:43):
and this is fascinating. And you ask a very good question.
The way that the Trump administration is going to run
for at least two years, and I say two because
it depends how successful they are, is exactly the way
Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran his administrations. And when I said
that to Trump himself, I don't think he knew that.
(07:06):
And I said, look, he need to read Confronting the Presidents.
I know you don't read too many books. He saw
the documentary on News Nation Trump then we discussed it extensively,
but he didn't read the book. And I said, when
Roosevelt came in, the depression was just hammering everybody in
the country. And Herbert Ruver was one of the biggest
failed presidents of all time. The guy had no clue.
(07:28):
So what Roosevelt did was he hired his buddies from
Harvard and Columbia Universities. They had a little cabinet in
the White House they didn't even have offices. These guys,
they just showed up at the White House. They made
all the decisions, and then the decisions came out from
the White House into the departments, and the department has
executed those decisions. Exactly what this is going to happen now,
(07:52):
But it didn't happen four years ago. There there were
fiefdoms that were making crazy decisions. And Trump was consulted,
but he was so overwhelmed by the whole scenario as
any human being would be with no political background whatsoever.
Wasn't even an intern for any political person. But Roosevelt
(08:13):
ran that government for four terms. Remember he's on four
terms basically by himself with his guys, and they said
do this, and then people did it. And that's what's
going to happen now, which is why Trump nominated all
of these loyalists to him, because they're not going to
have any power at all none.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Bill Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I'm also wondering if you could tell us what you
think if you had a ninety day and maybe the
kind of ninety second version of the ninety day plan,
if you will, a ninety day plan for Trump, because
it does feel like right now the opening He's got
the pieces lined up around him, and the opening is
bigger than it has been. The mandate is more definitive
(08:59):
than has been ever before for Trump to do big
things and get things done. What does the first ninety
days have to look like for the right tone, the
right accomplishments to be set.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Another good question, Zori. A deal in place for ceasefire
in Ukraine. I understand it's a back door deal. He's
got to get the hostages out, and Biden did not
help him Friday by allowing ten billion dollars to flow
into the Mulla's hands, because the Mullas are the key
(09:31):
to get those hostages out. And Biden is such an idiot,
and I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be disrespectful, but he
is an idiot that he undermined the hostage released by
giving those savages in Iran that money. But anyway, Trump
is going to be able to tamp it down in
the Ukraine. Don't know what's going to happen in the
(09:54):
Middle East. He's going to be able to seal up
the border very quickly. And if Claudia Schanbaum, the new
as in Mexico, doesn't cooperate, Trump can break her economy
in two weeks. Two weeks. That's why Justin Trudeau high
tailed it down to mar Alago because he doesn't want
that to happen in Canada, so the border will be solidified.
(10:14):
Then they've had to back home into all right, how
are we going to track down these criminal aliens? And
my commentary is, if anyone does not cooperate with you,
a mister president, you arrest them. Your Pam BONDI put
the head of the FBI, which will probably be Cash Bettel,
on a plane to lands in California, puts the handcuffs
(10:37):
on the governor if necessary, of that state, and you
charge and indict him. You do that one time, and
that whole sanctuary city collapses, Everything collapses. They're going to
have to do that, maybe the wool in Boston, maybe
to the San Diego people, maybe to the LA people.
(10:57):
But that's what you do. And so I think that
he's got a feel to play that can be very
very successful, very quickly. But he has to be disciplined
and he has to tell the American people what he's
doing and why he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Bill, what do you think we should be aware of that?
Maybe we're not contemplating as we get closer to the inauguration,
is there anything that you think is a dirty trick
that Democrats are going to play, anything that you think
Trump should be leery of, because again we're talking about
the fact that they really haven't been able to create
(11:38):
any sort of obstacle to him. Is there anything you're
expecting them to attempt early on that he should be
really on top of it.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
There's no leadership in the Democratic Party at all. None
is no one in charge. So that's a huge advantage.
Donald Trump has to watch Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't
think he's going to make it okay. So I'm sure
he's got a backup for Kennedy because he had a
backup for Gates. I knew right away the Gates wasn't
(12:08):
going to make it, and I said, man, Pam BONDI
will be And all of my commentary, by the way,
is on Bill O'Reilly dot com. That's where we live,
and you know we're ninety percent accurate. So R. K.
Junior is not gonna He's gonna get down. I don't
know about Haig Smith. I don't know his other stuff
are swirling around there, but he hasn't got a fair
(12:29):
shot in the media. He said he's going to have
to sell himself in to the Senator's Republican senators. It's
a tough sell. He has no experience, and the Pentagon's
the largest corporation in the world. Tough sell. So Trump
is that's where his deficis, if you want to call
him that lie. But the Democratic Party they got nothing
(12:52):
right now. They're on the run. They're collapsing. And if
Trump is successful, JD. Vanis is going to walk in
in four years.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
All right, go to Bill One more for you, quick
one before you go. If you have to tell us
what your favorite Christmas movie is? No hedging. What is
your favorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Christmas? Carol? Alice Stair Sims. I am the second one
in the series by far the best.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'm adding into the list. Wife and I are gonna
watch it right after Diehard this weekend. Bill o'relly, everybody,
go to Bill rally dot com. Doing great commentary there
and also confronting the president's latest best seller. Great gift
for the holiday, Uncle Bill. Merry Christmas to you, sir,
Thank you as always for joining us. We always appreciate
you making the time.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, I hope you guys have a great Christmas, and
I want to tell you that I really appreciate you
guys having me on the program, and I thank you
very much for doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You know, Clay, I like to tell the truth here always,
and sometimes the truth gets you a little bit of trouble.
You turned me on to Yellowstone, which my wife also
had seen some of, because you know, I think there
have been an You season or two before we teamed up, right,
But so you said it's really good. I started watching it.
(14:13):
Kerry likes it. We watched it, and overall I really
enjoyed the show. But a couple of things come to mind.
One is what the heck is Kevin Costner doing not
showing up for the last six episodes to do a
movie that is so awful that he like isn't even
releasing the rest of it or something. There's like a
series he was doing. How did that happen? But then
(14:33):
also did the writers just you know, not show up?
Like what what happened here? Clay? The finale, you, I'll
you could give it you're out of ten grade. I
give it a four. I give it a five. I
wanted it to be a lot better. I finished it
last night. It's most popular television show out there. I
feel like it probably over indexes in this audience that
is a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Of you watch it. I wanted it to be good.
I don't know what Kevin Costner's thinking walking away from
the final six episodes or whatever it was that he
could have otherwise filmed and gone out with a with
a nice conclusion potentially, but it was just thoroughly a mess.
The final six episodes didn't make sense chronologically. They had
(15:17):
random music guests. You know a show starting downhill when
they just have like random interludes where they're singers in
a drama show, remember that, Like Beverly Hills nine two
and oh every now and then in the late they
they started like the peach Pit after dark and they
started having all the bands, and you're like, they don't
even know what to do anymore. They just put a
band on.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It jumped the shark, Yes, just like the Fons jumping
a shark in The Happy Days. It jumped the shark.
And it was a shame because there was so much
good stuff in it. I mean, it was never a
realistic show, but it just sort of turned into I
know some of you are gonna hate. You're gonna hate
this analysis. That's fine. You can write at us and
yell at us, you can even call us. But unfortunately
this analysis is accurate.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It is one hundred percent we'lcome back in Christmas music season.
I used to joke Buck when I did my sports
talk show because this would happen everywhere. You know, every
station starts getting dominated in the ratings by Christmas music.
It doesn't matter what you do. It can be rap music,
it can mean rock music, it can be classical music,
(16:20):
talk radio, sports, talk radio, politics, current events. All of
us start getting smoked in marketplaces by just twenty four
hour Christmas music. And I used to joke, can we
just take off December and just you know, play Christmas
music for the whole month, like our ratings will be
incredible and we'll come back after the first of the year.
And so anyway, Christmas music, wherever you are is dominating.
(16:44):
We appreciate you spending your time with us. And I
wanted to play this because we were talking about the
impact of Caitlin Clark WNBA twenty five years losing money
and one of the owners of the Washington Mystics the Washington,
DC area WNBA franchise, which, by the way, buck the
(17:06):
only time they actually had sellouts all season long was
when Caitlyn Clark came to town to play and people
showed up to watch her. I believe they moved into
the Big Arena where the NBA team plays, which they
almost never do because they had so much ticket demand.
While the owner of the WNBA franchise, she was upset,
(17:31):
so Caitlyn Clark bending the knee and apologizing for her
white privilege. It didn't work. And this is what the
Washington Mystics owner had to say on CNN.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I feel really bad because I've seen so many players
of color that are equally as talented and they never
got the recognition that they should have. And I think
right now it is time for that to happen. So
last night we read Time magazine where Caitlin Clark was
named Athlete of the Year. Why couldn't they have put
the whole w NBA on that cover instead. The w
(18:03):
NBA is the League of the Year because of all
the talent that we have. Because when you just keep
singling out one player, it creates hard feelings. And so
now you're starting to hear stories of racism within the WNBA,
and I don't want.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
To hear that.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
We have got to operate and become stronger as a
league and respect everybody that's playing.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The white girl can't be getting attention because it creates
racism in the league. I can't believe this is real.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And again I think, I think there is racism, and
then you're directed at the white girl.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's right. And I asked the question, can anybody else
out there speak to a situation like this happening in
any league that actually makes money. I know there's sometimes
a resentment over rookies coming in and making more money.
I mean, that's not uncommon. They've had to change some
of the CBA rules as a result or people being
(19:00):
unhappy because the new quarterback is going to get a
job and he hasn't necessarily earned. I mean, all that's
pretty common. But I can't remember anybody ever throwing a
fit in the NFL over who gets on the cover
of a magazine. I don't remember in Major League Baseball,
in even an MLS. To your point, I haven't heard
anybody saying, oh, how dare MESSI come into the MLS
(19:24):
and get all this attention with the Miami team, or
back in the day, Beckham comes in with the LA
Galaxy and he gets all this attention. I think men Again,
I hate to make it based on based on sex,
but I think men's sports leagues in general understand that
all attention ultimately raises the level of compensation that everybody's
(19:46):
gonna get. Doesn't mean there's not intense competition, but I
can't remember a male sports league in my life engaging
in behavior like what's happening to Caitlin Clark. And again,
I feel like a a lot of people out there
are going to tune out this league because they're gonna say, hey,
I tried it out. I like Caitlyn Clark, but a
(20:08):
lot of the league, the vibe, the culture is so unlikable.
Why would I give them my money? In time?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Well, also, you had this from the she's the owner.
What's her title?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
This? Ye, she owns the Washington Mystics. Is the one
in Washington Mystic.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You have?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
She says. You know, other players are as talented, but
the audience gets to decide who they think the most
talented is. The audience is the vote that matters in
all of this the fans, that's who matters in all
of this, and they have spoken very clearly they are
very excited about Kaitlyn Clark as an athlete. And you know,
it's funny. I never thought I'd talk about the WNBA
so much. I don't think it's a fun product to watch.
(20:48):
I don't I don't enjoy I'm not alone there, obviously.
I think very few people do really enjoy it. And
and it's really kind of like a participation trophy league. Yeah,
now you have real excitement and real dollar coming in,
and you see the mentality exposed of of some of
the people. Many of the people who are are in
that league, they would rather be irrelevant and poorly paid
(21:10):
than more relevant and better paid as long as they
get to take shots at the new girl on the block.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I love everything you're saying. I'm laughing for those watching
on video because it's reminding me of when you ripped
some oone Biles and like everybody came after you. You didn't
say anything different than what I said, but somehow you
got all the headlines. I'm just laughing right now because
so that was.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
That was where Everard's like, she's so brave because she
stepped out because she was having emotional issues or something.
I'm like, that's not brave. That's fine. It's not brave though.
It's just you know, you got to accurate if if
you have if you have a sprained ankle and you say, look,
I can't go forward. Yeah, okay, that's it's It's neither
brave nor cowardly. It's just you got to take care
of yourself. You step aside, you do that for psychological reasons.
(21:56):
That's fine too. But everyone's second it's so brave. No,
that's not. Actually, they got to live in reality. And
man I got I got hammered on that one by
But the communists, Clay, they don't. They they used to
just get all, you know, they get all upset about
something and they create a tempest in a teapot. And
they can't do it the same way anymore. Well, honestly,
in the in the Elon era of X, I haven't
(22:17):
been dragged, truly dragged, which is when all the all
the communists start yeah, and they all start piling on, Yeah,
how's it happened? Once? This was purely a you know,
when when the X was run by a bunch of
social justice Warrior. Uh you know, uh, estrogen athletes. That's
when this stuff used to happen. All that being said,
(22:39):
you've not said anything different than me. It was gonna
be really funny if you get ripped for your take
on Caitlin Clark, somebody grabs a clip. Now, I do
want to play this, which I think ties in with
what you just said.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Steven A. Smith, who we need to get on the show.
I've done his show a couple of times. He said
he wanted to come on. He's gonna make one hundred
million dollars soon from ESPN. He has become unburdened by
what has been in the past. I'm trying to quote
Kamalain probably not doing that perfectly unburdened by what has been.
And he came out, and I do think this is
(23:12):
emblematic of the major vibe shift that we were talking
about earlier. Buck he came out and said, Hey, this
whole jan sixth thing, the government, Yeah, they had a
bunch of people that were basically covert agents inside of
this group that was storming the capitol. I think they
said what twenty six people is the number that the
(23:36):
FBI says were agents working on their behalf inside of
this crowd. That's the ones that they're acknowledging, several of
whom went into the Capitol and Stephen A. Smith went
on his show and said, Hey, Donald Trump's right about
another thing. There are a lot of red pill moments happening.
I want to play that, and I want to get
your reaction to it, buck to the democratic plot.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
You know what I'm getting really pissed off about.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He didn't really ticked off.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
And every time they opened their mouth about something pertaining
to y'all, they seem right to make the case that
the right had a monopoly on insidious, evil tendencies, corrupt tendencies, duplicitous, hypocritical,
untruthful tendencies. And every time they made those accusations, we
(24:21):
turn around and find out that at least some of
them are guilty of the same. I don't know about y'all,
but I'm sick of all of it. I'm sick of
all of it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
They've actually made.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Donald Trump look like he was right instead of them.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well he was, So it's not just looks that way,
but is what's going on here in your mind? Is
this a genuine recognition and pivot by Stephen A. Smith,
or is it Hey, I saw what happened in the election,
and now there is freedom to be able to address
(24:59):
some of these things, like what is going on.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think this is more ought. I think this is
more going where the audience is than anything else. But
I don't think it's in I don't think it's only
that I don't know Steven A. Smith. I never talked
to him, you know, so I'm not familiar with his work,
but I am familiar with the trend you are seeing
now of more and more people who, particularly men in
(25:23):
the commentary space, okay, whether it's sports, politics, whatever, who
don't feel the need to say the crazy woke stuff anymore.
That I just refuse to believe that they believe.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's just there's no like the you know, women don't
have a disadvantage against men and sports stuff, right, I mean,
this is crazy and that's one example. There are many
examples of it, though, you know, I thought it was
interesting how much it's it's caught on clay that Tim
Walls lying about some stuff was what turned Joe Rogan
(25:54):
particularly political in this election, that he just felt like
this guy was just lying about core stuff about who
he is and the whole thing too with it, like, oh,
I wor Camo and Carhart. Now I'm just a guy
like the guys. But I mean, really, you know he
was jazz hands. Like no one really bought this about
Tim Walls that there was I think there's resentment from
(26:16):
people who felt like they had to tow this line
because they didn't want to deal with the backlash. I
think Stephen Smith, Stephen A. Smith? Do I have to
always say the a Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Smith is otherwise maybe the most common name in America?
Oh okay, well Steven Smith. There's a lot of dudes.
So I think he needed the initials so that he
would be recognized.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
So I just I would say this. I think it's
a component. It's two things. It's the freedom to speak
the truth that he always knew at some level. But
I also think it's mostly this is where the audiences
are going. I don't know what is going on with
the left these days, Like who actually believes any of
this crap? Like who's watching these shows now that we're
(26:56):
all you can't tell somebody that fascism is coming in
Hitler is going to destroy the whole country, and then
that guy actually becomes president and everything's looking great, and
the markets are booming, and business is excited, and it's
looking great for everybody, And what exactly are you selling
here on these channels. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But you went to breakfast with them, which is what
Morning Joe and Mika did. It's not even that all
those things are happening, it's that I think maybe you
shouldn't brunch with Hitler, you know, if you truly believe
that Trump is Hitler. And I think this is I
don't begrudge anybody who bought into all those lies. I
do think there is an element of the stacking of
(27:40):
all the lies have finally caught up with him. And
I think it's the combo buck of saying Biden was
sharp as attack behind closed doors. No one can make
that argument. I mean, Biden can barely speak. And then
Trump winning it ended any of their legitimacy because they
immediately pivoted and said, oh, Kamala is actually like as
(28:04):
soon as you were telling me that Biden was sharp
as attack behind closed doors and that Kamala was running
a flawless campaign, and then Trump smokes Biden on June
twenty seventh and then smokes Kamala on November fifth. I
think the double barrel of those outcomes in many respects
destroyed the legitimacy of those networks, and I think it.
(28:27):
I don't know how you come back from it. I
really don't. I think they're going to have to. Basically,
you know, when a team gets really bad, you have
to kind of clean the deck. You're just like, man,
we like trade, everybody, fire everybody like, we're just going
to rebuild from the studs up. Another analogy would be
if you got an old home, sooner or later, you
(28:47):
got to stop with just the rehab, and you have
to acknowledge the whole thing needs to be torn down
and rebuilt. The Democrat Party to me right now, and
the media that supports it needs to be torn down
and rebuilt. I think that's the reality. They're fighting it,
but I think it's the reality. Welcome back in Clay
Travis buck Sexton show, Buck, you blew my mind This morning.
(29:10):
I'm doing my show prep and I look down on
my phone scrolling through, and your lovely wife Carrie had
never seen the movie die Hard, and I I just
I this is a thing that is actually really common.
I think with younger women. I think most men, of
(29:33):
most agents, you agree, like, most men have seen die Hard.
Even if you're twenty five and you're listening to us
right now and you're a guy, you've seen die Hard.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
But this, I think it's hard to even identify as
a guy if you haven't seen die Hard. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
But I agree with that. And this happened to me
is the first time I felt old. About a decade ago,
I was in La. Fox Sports is actually at the
intersection of Pico and Mode. For those of you listening
in La or have spent time out in West La
and the Knaka Toomy tower building that they used as
(30:08):
the as the sort of the outdoor vision of the movie.
The setting it's right by the Fox A lot, and
we were driving by, and a lot of production assistants
on television are young, and they were in the car.
There's like two or three girls and two or three guys.
The girls had never heard of the movie, had never
(30:30):
seen the movie die Hard, and so when we the
guys were all in the car talking about, Hey, that's
that's Knokotomby tower. They had no earthly idea. And now
I hear Carrie hasn't. And I think this is a
trend out there. I think there are lots of girls twenties, thirties,
youngish that have never seen this movie. So you have
got a plan.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Now, I think, Well, she's she said she has seen
parts of it, but I have been in an endless
loop over here as we're you know, prepping the home
with the trigue and the and the little Red done
the stockings and all this stuff of as I said,
these Hallmark Christmas movies, which we had some fun talking
about yesterday, and all of you, by the way, who
(31:07):
knew what we're talking about, know that we're nailing it.
I mean, that's it's always the same plot. The whole
thing is like very it's very formulae. But that's fun
fun for people. I'm not talking about the classics. I'm
talking about the Hallmark, these Hallmark Christmas movies. So I
just said to I said, honey, you know we're gonna
be you know, Friday night, we're just gonna be hanging out,
you and me, So why don't we and Ginger, why
(31:28):
don't we watch die Hard? She says she has seen
parts of it, but I was I had to tell
her right away That is not the answer to have
I've seen?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Or have you not seen? Die Hard needs to be yes,
it can't be. I've seen parts of it. So I
think we're gonna be hanging with John McClain barefoot, running
around Nakotomi Tower with his little his little HK and
it's gonna be great.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
How many movies are better than die Hard from a
adventure perspective, I think they can.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Make us case that Diehard is the greatest action movie
of all time. I'm not saying it is definitively. I'm
saying it is a contender. You could argue greatest action
movie of all time.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I think you have to say are rated, because obviously
then the Indiana Jones movies are action like can kind
of get right there? See those?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Remember the old movie rental places? Those would go under
action slash adventure.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I remember that
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