March 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Clay continues to share his experience on Trump Force One over the weekend and shares elements of his conversation with President Trump. Clay shares behind-the-scenes details, including the lack of seatbelt requirements and the swift departure process. He recounts his conversation with Trump about Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post, revealing Bezos's frustration with the newspaper's biased coverage. The hosts discuss the shifting media landscape and the increasing support for Trump from unexpected quarters. In this hour, Clay and Buck analyze the Democrats' deepening crisis, highlighting their lack of popular leaders and unfavorable political landscape. They discuss the impact of Trump's presidency on the media and the Democratic Party's struggle to regain footing. The conversation shifts to the recent attempts on Trump's life, with Clay questioning the FBI's investigations and the motivations behind the attacks. The hosts emphasize the importance of transparency and accountability in these cases. The show also touches on cultural topics, including the disastrous reception of the woke Snow White movie and its implications for Hollywood. Clay and Buck criticize the Democrats' stance on Tesla and climate change, particularly the comments made by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. They explore the broader implications of such statements on the American economy and political landscape.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Monday edition of the program. A lot still
to continue to get to Buck, I've got some answers
to questions if you've ever wondered about what flying on
Air Force one is like. I got a chance to
(00:21):
do it three different flights. As soon as we finished
the show on Friday, I hopped well. I ducked out
a little bit early so I could make sure and
make the flight. Thanks for holding down shop there to
close out Friday's edition, and I will say a bunch
of different things. One, no requirement that you buckle your
(00:44):
seat belt or be seated on Air Force one. When
the President is ready to go, they just go. Food
is good. I was impressed. No weights on the tarmac,
in case you've ever gotten stuck. Sometimes in the flow
of traffic, President gets precedent. So whether wherever you are,
(01:05):
it's nice you're in the air. Probably five minutes after
you have him sit down in his chair, there's pictures up.
I was able to talk to him, and I thought
the most newsworthy thing that he said, Buck, And there's
been a lot of different things that have kind of
circled around. But I thought you would find this interesting
(01:26):
as well, because I certainly did. I asked him about
Jeff Bezos in the Washington Post, because Jeff Bezos was
at the inauguration the Washington Post when he got elected
the first time rights democracy dies in darkness at the
top of the newspaper, but then they announced that they're
not going to be endorsing. It seems to me clear
(01:47):
that Bezos has finally gotten fed up with the coverage
from the Washington Post. And I asked Trump about it,
and here is what he said. Cut nine. Jeff Bezos
was aureguration.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It seems like he's trying to make the Washington Post
more fair.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Has he talked to you about the fact that he
thinks because they let Fighten get away with everything when
he was in office, they started to push him.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
They came after you like crazy, had length that dog
to him about it. He's a good guy. I don't
really know him in the first time.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean it's such a difference between now in
the first Yeah, Zuckerber and Bezos and Jensen.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I know you helped al kick had a story a
couple of interviews that we did that were being edited
that they worked out and they figured out on Facebook
through Zuckerberg. What has Bezos told you about trying to
be more fair in his coverage.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just that, yes, is really trying to be more fair.
They actually did a couple of bad articles that him.
He said, this is crazy. Yeah, I'm lose a fortune.
Just thing and they and they, you know, they're out
of control. These people are crazy. They're they're crazy people.
They're out of control.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And uh and he's actually a very good guy. I
got to know him this second time. He was up.
If you look at the inauguration, I look at the
people that were on az age.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
There was a loose who of the world that was
totally against me the first time. So much different presidency.
I much more support.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, I think that is really kind of important here
buck crazy people. Jeff Bezos has told Trump that the
Washington Post is being run by crazy people. This is
according to Trump, and I think it has to be
true if you just look at the actions that Jeff
(03:34):
Bezos has undertaken to suddenly try and corral the crazy
town of the Washington Post. And I think it's reflective.
At the end, he talked about the cultural change. It's
seismically different. Right, We're not even seeing the Democrats or
the legacy media able to really line up and do
anything to stop Trump. And in fact, some of the
(03:56):
people that were the biggest roadblocks, like the Washington Post
in Jeff Bezos, are now kind of getting on board
the Trump train.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Well where were they going to go after what they
had been promising their their side, their audience for years.
I mean, what what do you say at this point?
You have to remember we would we would pop in
and out, we would read the occasional I know you're
you're a New York Times subscriber. I wasn't your time subscriber.
I'm trying to get away from it. But we're not
(04:27):
as steeped in all of the editorials and all of
the coverage that those papers were doing of Trump the
whole time, because we have other things we have to read.
And also, at some point, there's only so much propaganda
that you can stomach. But imagine that you had been steady.
You have been fed this steady diet of Trump is
going to get crushed in these trials. Trump is going
to end up, you know, sentenced for these these criminal wrongdoings.
(04:52):
Trump maybe is going to be financially ruined. That was
another thing they thought they would accomplish in New York
with that absurd Letitia James Uh, you know, corporate fraud trial,
and all of that came to nothing. In fact, it
elevated I think Trump to make sure that he was
going to win the presidency dramatically because people saw what
was going on. So they're they're in total rebuild mode.
(05:14):
I mean, this is this is the the time when
the Democrat Party is trying different things to come up
with some way to justify its existence to the people
who have been supporting it for this long, which is
why you have the the Bernie and aoc traveling show
going on right now. You know, they're going around together
(05:35):
and trying to raise money and all of this stuff.
But I think that Trump part, you know, Clay, you
said this, and I believe this is important. There's something
from your interaction with them this time. There's a poise
and a calm and almost a sense of relaxation that
Trump has. He has defeated the enemy. I mean, you know,
(05:56):
if you think of the media as the primary enemy,
he won. There's no way that that ever changes.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Now. He goes out a winner no matter what. And
part of his.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Legacy will be the destruction of the media manipulation machine
that the Democrats had relied on for our entire adult
lives until Trump came along, for our entire lives, not
just adult lives.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I also, I've seen Trump say this recently, Buck, I
hadn't heard it before cut fourteen here. Uh. He talked
about prevailing to what you're saying against the lawfair against him.
But he said that his initial read when the when
the raid at mar A Lago happened was that it
(06:37):
was going to be really bad for his presidential campaign. Uh.
And then he decided, well, I've got to just roll
with it. Listen to cut fourteen here.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Were they attacked or they attacked Mark Yes, and they
invaded it.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I said, oh boy, this is brutal for my election.
You thought initially he was going to be bad you have.
So the one thing I did is I talked to
the press.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I had this whatever anything like that happened, these were
crooked people on crooked when they did something like that,
or the indictment, but the indict and not one indictment.
It's four or five of right, okay, And that led
to eighty or ninety or because everyone had you know,
it was a totally rig deal. I would go out
(07:21):
that night and I'd have a news conference. I talk
to the people, and the people realized it was a scam.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It turned out to be a scam. Look with what happened,
and they're all out.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, I hear, I said in Air Force one with
you talking like one of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It is kind of remarkable where we are. One more thing.
I asked him Buck whether he thought Kamala should run
for governor and if he had any advice he would
give her. Uh. Here was Trump on Kamala's future. Cut too.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Kamala is talking about running for governor? Would you give
her any advice as a politician? Do you think she
should run? Do you think she's gonna do it? What
do you think her future is?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Just let her run?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
She's she's as far as I don't want to be
giving people advice politically, but uh, one thing she's gonna do,
she's got to start doing interviews.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I mean you can't get away with both of them.
He Uh, but doing the COVID things he did no interviews,
and he got away with it because of COVID, because
you know, you're able to do things that you could do.
It was a great election, this last one, and I
do think this. I think it's much more historic the
way it happened than if I had gone And typically.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Don't you think in some way it's better because you
have the Senate in the House now in twenty four,
you're able to be more effective than you would have
been in twenty Probably.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's better because it shows how bad they were. Yeah,
there was so bad, and it shows that.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And when you see here, you're comparing, you comparing it
to the worst president of the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And I think in that way it's better there.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
What they were doing didn't work, and if I would
have done it more traditionally, you know, we wouldn't have
known that then.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, So those cuts you can listen up on up
on Clay and Buck. But I do think the biggest
takeaway is he is just reveling in it. Buck in
a way, to your point, he beat his enemies. I
gotta tell you when we walked out at the NCAA
Wrestling Championships, which I don't remember anybody ever really talking
(09:26):
about that much. I mean, he brought the attention with
him the entire place, standing ovation, chanting USA. It's now
happened at the super Bowl, It's now happened at the
Daytona five hundred, and it's now happened at the wrestling Championships.
Men who are overwhelmingly sports fans. I know a lot
of you are women sports fans as well, but men
(09:47):
are behind Trump at a level that I haven't seen
in a very very long time. Buck, I haven't seen
anything like this the reception. Yes, well, I can remember
in previous Republican administrations, including Trump's first, but going back
to the Bush years, it was a state of siege
day one right away, and they had a lot more
artillery than we did. They had a lot more voices
(10:10):
who would come in and tell you all these different
reasons why this new Republican or this this new new
administration is terrible for X, Y and Z. And you
know they're in the case of Bush, you know, he's dumb,
and Cheney's corrupt, and all these things that they would
say and put aside whatever you think of the specific criticisms.
They were able to turn the mood of the country
(10:32):
sour intentionally as a manipulation as a Republican was in charge.
This is the first time I've ever seen it where
they just can't do it. They know they can't do it.
They no longer have the power, They no longer have
the ability to create some story out of thin air.
That makes everyone think that there's some doom hanging over
(10:52):
the country because of the Republican that is in office
right now, as people have been saying, you know, the
vibes are the vibes are strong right now in Trump world.
Things are looking good. There's a lot of challenges ahead,
and we're very aware of that. There's a lot of
things that still need to be We're just in the
opening endia. I mean, there's a lot that needs to
be done. But this is I've never seen anything like
(11:14):
this before. It's like the Democrat media apparatus has been defanged.
Still there, but it just doesn't have the same ability
that it used to. And I think trum Trump not
only recognizes that Clay Trump is the reason for that.
They threw They exhausted themselves, like a boxer who's thrown
so many punches and mysts that eventually just falls to
(11:37):
the canvas. They exhausted themselves trying to destroy Trump, and
now it's over for them. I thought it was interesting
when he said that he thought the initial raid, and
I think he called it, you know, the attack on
mar A Lago was going to be really successful for them,
because I think you and I are initial because I
remember when this happened. You and I's initial take was,
(11:57):
we know this is going to be good for Trump
with the Republicans because people are going to rally around him.
I think as soon as they rated mar A Lago
effectively the Republican nomination was over. I think what he
did a masterful job of was spinning it such that
the middle of the road voter came to come down
on his side as opposed to the Biden team side.
(12:19):
And I think that's where using the media and talking
every day was ultimately to his benefit in a way
that I don't think it was clear it would be right.
Democrats basically thought this will make him unelectable. They ended
up being wrong, and actually I think got him elected
and blew up in their faces. Yeah, well, they believe
(12:40):
that all these things that they would do would make
him unelectable. Think about It's the biggest political own goal
in history. I've never seen anything like this. No one's
ever seen anything like this.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
To have used all the powers of the abused powers,
of the prosecutorial arm of the government, of the media apparatus,
of the democrat power in Hollywood, and the culture to
try to destroy someone and actually make them even more
unstoppable is something that nobody could have anticipated. So it
(13:15):
is the most remarkable political comeback in the history of
I think the history of the country. I mean, you
have to go back to like George Washington holding together
the army at Valley Forge for something that really is
so defying the odds.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And I think that Trump now is realizing that he's
able to pursue the agenda in a way where no
matter what the Left says or does. At this point,
he won, and now it's just what can he do
for the country. It really is about what's best for
the country now and not how do I keep the
wolves at bay so I can do the best for
(13:52):
the country. There's still some of that, I get it,
but totally different the White House in the first term.
I remember I were friends with a lot of people
that were a Trump's circle in that White House, and
they were under siege the whole time, and it was
a very different world. People were worried they were going
to get sent to prison. People were worried that, you know,
maybe Trump was going to get impeached or he wasn't peached,
(14:14):
but you know, before it happened, they were concerned what
does that mean? And it has just been an astonishingly
positive thing for the country. I think lay that the
law Fair failed. If law Fair had worked, I don't
really know if we have I don't really know if
we're operating in a free country anymore with real elections.
I really think that that's a big, a big win
(14:35):
for all of us.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It would have set the precedent. You always try to
put your chief political adversary in prison for the rest
of his life or her life if you're in a
position of power, which is what happens in Banana republics
and how they end up collapsing, because if it works,
that's what happens.
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Speaker 1 (16:13):
I just want to say something here.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
The President doesn't like Hamilton, which meaning the Broadway show.
So so Trump and I aligned on that. And also
I told you and people were, oh, book, why are
you such a sower puss? Like the JFK files, there's
nothing in the files. Trump described it as largely unspectacular.
In his exclusive interview with our own Clay Travis and
(16:36):
board Air Force one. This is cut ten player.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You release the JFK files. So do you think Oswald
killed JFK personally?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I do, and I always held that.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, where he was was he helped? And based on
the papers, you know, we released eighty eight as I know,
it was okay, and in fact there was some that
they needed a little more time. Just now we should
go over to the office. We'll show you, yeah to
so nobody could say they've been released. I think the
papers have turned out to be somewhat unspectacular.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, I think that's true, and maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I tell you, Oh, Buck, the CIA killed Kennedy. Stop
leaving Oliver Stone.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Conspiracy theories everybody, It's nonsense. I did ask him, maybe
we'll play this when we come back. I asked him
whether he thought the shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania acted alone,
and whether as he released all the JFK files, he's
kind of contemplated how close he came to getting killed.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Buck. I was at Bedminster on Saturday, and I met
with a bunch of Trump's buddies up there, and they
said they still couldn't get over the fact the day
after he came within a quarter inch of getting his
head blown out, blown off, they found him just hitting
golf balls at the UH at Bedminster the next day,
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in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Monday edition
of the program. We're playing some thanks to Caroline Levitt.
(19:04):
I was on Air Force one over the weekend, talked
to President Trump surrounding a lot of sports related questions.
They wanted to hit sports, which is why I was
at the NCAA wrestling tournament with the President. But you
just played. I thought it was a good answer the
RF Sorry the JFK files being released. I also asked
the President about whether he felt like the shooters acted
(19:28):
alone when they tried to kill him, both in Butler
and then he wanted to talk about the other guy
also at West Palm Beach. It's amazing those stories to
a large extent, have vanished since Trump won the election.
But it was only six eight months ago that we
all had within a quarter inch the president nearly killed
multiple times. Here he was explaining cut eleven about whether
(19:52):
he felt the investigations were trustworthy and whether the shooters
acted alone.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Do you think back now it's only been eight months
since Butler Pennsylvan, do you think that guy acted alone
based on what you've seen that crazy man? And do
you think back to your connection now to JFK, because
think the Lord he missed. But people for the next
hundred years would have been talking about that like we
talk about JFK.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
It might be anyways, I can't really be sure.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I really can't.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I sure because it bothers me that he had three
apps and two of them afar and maybe it was
more absent. Yeah, And it bothered me that the other
guy had like eighteen phones.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I thought it was six, but it was at And
the FBI has been very straight with me.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I believe, and I think they weren't at the beginning,
but now I think there was, and they told me
a lot about the case.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think maybe it won't be.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Able to be determined, but I don't believe it's you know,
it's something cenis to by the FBI.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Hey, Cash, he's going to do a great job.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So Buck. It is kind of crazy. And again, a
lot of people didn't focus on this. We did. The
FBI was simultaneously trying to put Trump in prison for
the rest of his life and also supposed to be
investigating who tried to kill him. It was an untenable conflict.
Now he's got Cash Patel in and he feels confident
(21:25):
that he's going to get the truth with Cash Pattel
and Dan Bongino, who are the one and two at
the FBI. But isn't it sort of extraordinary that the
two men, one of them is dead, but the other
individual who tried to kill Trump, we still know very
very little about their overall motivations, and especially the Butler
Pennsylvania guy came within a quarter inch of forever altering
(21:48):
the trajectory of world history.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Well, you've noticed that there's this trend within the National
security apparatus, or the law enforcement and national security apparatus.
Still don't really know about the Well, we don't know
the trans manifesto from the Nashville domestic terrorist school shooter, right.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
We're not allowed to know about that. We still don't
know very much about the Las Vegas mass shooter, mass murderer.
We don't know very much about this. Or the other
would be Trump assassin, I might add, And when it
is someone who does something terrible who puts the media
in a position to blame Trump, which again would be
(22:31):
hard for people trying to assassinate Trump, right, But when
it's somebody who is you're able to blame Trump for
the violence in some way. We know you know, we
know what they were having for lunch, when they were
in kindergarten, you know everything about them. And that just
goes to how much more interested the media is in
getting information out if not because it's in the public
(22:52):
interest broadly speaking, or because they want the truth to
be out there as a general matter, but because it's
about artisan hits, it's about pushing an agenda and attacking.
And so the same is true when they don't think
there's a partisan agenda when they can't shame their political opponents,
or if they want to protect people for political reasons,
as in the case of the trans manifesto. That is
(23:16):
a big That is just a recurring theme that we
see time and time again.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And I would tie it in even with what we're
seeing happen with Elon Musk right now, where he has
become the primary target of the antipathy that has been
built up for Trump. They failed to define Trump, they
went after him for a decade. Elon buck who is
going to come on the show. We're going to get
him lined up. He was on the plane as well.
(23:46):
I talked to him some. He is now the number
one target of the Democrat Party and their legacy media allies,
and they're attacking him through the ESLA universe more than
they're attacking him through his actual protocols, right. I mean,
(24:07):
he is obviously the CEO of multiple companies, but they're
going after his companies because he's going after waste and
fraud in the government, which is really pretty unbelievable. I
don't know that we've seen a precedent like this.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Well, well used to think that there were things that
could be done in government or things that could be
done for the government that everyone can just agree are
objectively good, right.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I mean, you would.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Think that something like getting rid of fraud wasted abuse.
And this is why we played the old clips of
Barack Obama and other Democrats sounding like they're trying to
put together doje Now. The thing is they say it
and don't mean it, meaning they talk about it but
don't Actually they either have not the political will or
(24:52):
the skill set or the interest in doing it, but
they'll talk about it because they know that it's broadly
popular with the American people, and now they're finally doing
something about this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Also, this is the thing.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
That people don't like Elon to me, meaning because of
what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I don't mean people that for a long time, maybe
you don't like Tesla or have some problem with Elon.
But for Democrats to suddenly turn on Elon Musk because
of what he's doing means that they care more about
hating Trump than they do about saving the country and
perhaps even the world, by their own admission, which means
that something's wrong with you, right, there's something really off
(25:35):
with your psychology, with your worldview. If hating Trump is
more important than tackling climate change again their view of it,
not my view of it. Or bring the government in
line with the basic accounting standards that you would necessitate
or you would expect at any major corporation. That seems
(25:56):
pretty fair, pretty standard.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think what it is, and you hit on this
years ago that climate change is a religion for people
who don't believe in religion. I think there's a lot
of truth to that. I also think the twenty five percent,
because let's talk about the twenty five percent suffering from
Trump derangement syndrome. They have basically made Trump their graven idol.
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Everything spins around what Trump does, and I care about politics.
It matters to me obviously. I love this job. I
feel very fortunate to get to talk to you guys.
But most of what I focus on outside of work
is my family. Right My three boys keep me very
very busy. I'm chasing them around, doing a lot of
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different things with them. It seems to me buck like
many of the most deranged Trump lunatics, they don't have
anything else in their lives. They aren't really committed to
anything else. They have allowed their opposition of Trump to
be number one on their list of obligations and responsibilities.
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It's not faith, it's not family, it's not even their work.
The way they define themselves is their opposition to Trump,
and what it ends up creating is oftentimes untenable perspectives
because if you really bought into climate change, and I
think these people are crazy, but if you did, then
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Elon should be the biggest hero that has ever existed
in your life, because no individual has done more in
theory than Elon Musk. Now we can talk about electric
vehicles and the challenges and embedded and inherent in them,
but if you believe that fossil fuels and global warming
is going to destroy the planet, there's no one who
has done more to combat that than Elon Musk. And
(27:51):
now you're throwing Molotov cocktails at Tesla's and you're trying
to bankrupt this company. They their brains are so broken
and that I think really what it comes back to
is Trump is Satan and they really do believe that
he's Hitler, And I wonder what could Trump come out
in favor of that they would sud I mean, being
(28:12):
a buddies with Elon Musk is close to them being
forced to turn on their most important issues, right, Like
what could Trump endorse that they would flip on?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Well, I think that a lot of this is rooted
in psychology and not policy. I think that the Democrats
are and this has been a mass conditioning, a sort
of mass mental manipulation that they have gone through or
they have been put through, and they've done it to
themselves in many cases. But we're fighting against emotions.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Now, Clay.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
People that are people that are hateful towards Tesla first
of all, just because you don't like the politics of
the CEO of the company.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's not like Tesla is.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
All Tesla is doing is things that everybody should think
is good, especially democrats. Making electric cars cool, advancing the
technology making electric you know, car economy and everything that
it go, the AI and all these things that goes
into it, bringing it deep into the twenty first century,
and building a different future, a more clean energy future for.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Those who care about that.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Objectively, it's a company that's doing good things that they
should all like.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
This is not a company that is selling you know,
I don't know, cluster bombs to the Third world dictators
and like the company itself is bad. So Elon is
trying to do something in the government that they don't like.
They'll turn on that company. This is based in emotion.
This is childish thinking from them. But I think you
have that with Democrats across the board right now, because
I don't even hear them making arguments. I just hear
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them upset about things all the time. They're just upset
about everything.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
They want.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's it's always, oh, we want the trend to Aragua
gang members gone too. We just don't like the way
you're doing it. Oh, oh, we want waste, fraud and
abuse out of the government. We just don't like the
way you're doing it, and we think you're hitler for trying.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
We start to see this over and over again. They
actually don't have a better way of doing it. And
what you find yourself realizing is they don't really want
it to be done. They just want what they want
because they're overcome with the emotion of my team versus
your team. Trump wasn't supposed to win everything. I was
told by Fauci and Biden and Kamala and CBS Evening News,
(30:23):
and it was all bull crap. I feel like I'm
moron now, And instead of having the accountability as a party.
The Democrats could have accountability, They could look at themselves
and say what went.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wrong with us? It's I don't like you.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I'm mad at you, and I'm going to keep complaining
and throwing tantrums even when you're doing things that I
should say thank you for.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I just feel like this is the day and day.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Out reality of dealing with Democrats right now. I've seen
by Tim Walls, I'm cheering for Tesla stock to go down.
Oh that's really stupid. Sorry, No, I wasn't cheering. It
was a joke, you see what I mean. We knew
that I was stupid right away, right away.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
This is the lead on Axios that I was talking about, Buck,
I encourage you. Actually their am newsletter out there. I
enjoy this. I mean, I understand they're slanted towards the left,
but I like just seeing what their attempts are. This
was their head story lead story today. Top Democrats say
their party is in its deepest hole in fifty years.
Lowest favorability ever, no popular leader, no ability to do
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anything in Congress, durable minority on the Supreme Court, no
influence with podcasters and social media accounts, skyrocketing that have
right leaning perspective, young voters going way more conservative bad
twenty twenty six map Senate retirements making the even harder. Uh,
there's panic. There's panic out there that like I might.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Have the team or pull that SoundBite from you and
I just might like listen to it once, you know,
once a day.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know, that's great. I love I love that. That
was fantastic. Yeah, it is. Uh, it is pretty Uh,
it's pretty incredible. Uh. And some of the stats I
mean are just amazing. I mean, we talked about young
men voting for Trump on a level greater than seventy
five year old men. I think that for a lot
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of you out there, we got seventy five year old
men listening, we got eighteen year old men. I think
a lot of you out there are like, wow, really, yeah,
this is what the data is all reflecting. Gender gap exploding.
But it is, it's really pretty amazing. And Democrats are
panicked and it's a good time. And maybe you're a
(32:34):
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Speaker 5 (33:53):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck, you know, coming up
in a few minutes, just to have a little fun here.
I do think we always have a lot of fun here.
But you know what I mean, we should talk about
snow White, because oh yeah, wow, this is not just
a movie that is bombing as it should bomb. This
is a movie that when people look back at the
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history of our time and wokeness in the culture, this
is going to be one of the data points kids
in thirty years writing about the death of wokeness in
the culture will be able to take. Well, they'll probably
have AI write their paper for them, but they'll be
able to take the snow White real snow White ticket
(34:37):
receipts and say, see what a disaster this thing is.
And I think it's indicative of where everything is going.
So we'll get into some of that. Here we go.
We got a Howard in Boca Ratone, a lovely place
where I go meet friends for dinner regularly.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What's going on, Howard?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
All right?
Speaker 7 (34:54):
So I need a little help countering some statements made
by my liberal friends. May make it. Throw it out
and you give me some more insight. So one statement,
Doge is ruining America, And that's because they're cutting funds
from the NIH and it's taking away from the ability
for us to research for diseases. I'm specifically mentioned MS.
(35:15):
Not sure why that's why connect throw the other one
or do I want to address that one's first?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Well, I mean sure, the short version is they're looking
at money that is wasted and useless in the endeavors
that they're spending it on. So I would I just
think that overall, it's quite clear the government spends way
too much money and waste way too much money, and
they're trying to stop this. Is it going to be
one hundred percent perfect. No, But Elon says that whenever
they figure out something is affecting an important program, they
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cut back on it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Clay, Yeah, I mean what I would say in general is,
and I think a lot of people are starting to
ask these questions, why should the federal government be funding
research when the research goes to public companies and they
make the money off and not the government. You're seeing
a lot of this, and I know, like Columbia, by
(36:04):
the way, has been the knee on federal funds, but
I think a lot of people had the reaction I did.
Why does Columbia university need four hundred million dollars in
taxpayer funds, Like why were we giving them these kind
of dollars in the first place. And that's not just
to pick on Columbia. There are lots of universities all
over the place. So look, I think medical research is important,
(36:27):
but I think if medical research is occurring, it should
be for for profit basis. By and large, the government
shouldn't be funding research where private companies get the benefit
from it. So again, we'll dive into some of this
and more more on snow White when we come back,
which is going to be the woke disaster
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Monday edition of the program. A lot still
to continue to get to Buck, I've got some answers
to questions if you've ever wondered about what flying on
Air Force one is like. I got a chance to
(00:21):
do it three different flights. As soon as we finished
the show on Friday, I hopped well. I ducked out
a little bit early so I could make sure and
make the flight. Thanks for holding down shop there to
close out Friday's edition, and I will say a bunch
of different things. One, no requirement that you buckle your
(00:44):
seat belt or be seated on Air Force one. When
the President is ready to go, they just go. Food
is good. I was impressed. No weights on the tarmac,
in case you've ever gotten stuck. Sometimes in the flow
of traffic, President gets precedent. So whether wherever you are,
(01:05):
it's nice you're in the air. Probably five minutes after
you have him sit down in his chair, there's pictures up.
I was able to talk to him, and I thought
the most newsworthy thing that he said, Buck, And there's
been a lot of different things that have kind of
circled around. But I thought you would find this interesting
(01:26):
as well, because I certainly did. I asked him about
Jeff Bezos in the Washington Post, because Jeff Bezos was
at the inauguration the Washington Post when he got elected
the first time rights democracy dies in darkness at the
top of the newspaper, but then they announced that they're
not going to be endorsing. It seems to me clear
(01:47):
that Bezos has finally gotten fed up with the coverage
from the Washington Post. And I asked Trump about it,
and here is what he said. Cut nine. Jeff Bezos
was aureguration.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It seems like he's trying to make the Washington Post
more fair.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Has he talked to you about the fact that he
thinks because they let Fighten get away with everything when
he was in office, they started to push him.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
They came after you like crazy, had length that dog
to him about it. He's a good guy. I don't
really know him in the first time.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, I mean it's such a difference between now in
the first Yeah, Zuckerber and Bezos and Jensen.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I know you helped al kick had a story a
couple of interviews that we did that were being edited
that they worked out and they figured out on Facebook
through Zuckerberg. What has Bezos told you about trying to
be more fair in his coverage.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just that, yes, is really trying to be more fair.
They actually did a couple of bad articles that him.
He said, this is crazy. Yeah, I'm lose a fortune.
Just thing and they and they, you know, they're out
of control. These people are crazy. They're they're crazy people.
They're out of control.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And uh and he's actually a very good guy. I
got to know him this second time. He was up.
If you look at the inauguration, I look at the
people that were on az age.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
There was a loose who of the world that was
totally against me the first time. So much different presidency.
I much more support.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Okay, I think that is really kind of important here
buck crazy people. Jeff Bezos has told Trump that the
Washington Post is being run by crazy people. This is
according to Trump, and I think it has to be
true if you just look at the actions that Jeff
(03:34):
Bezos has undertaken to suddenly try and corral the crazy
town of the Washington Post. And I think it's reflective.
At the end, he talked about the cultural change. It's
seismically different. Right, We're not even seeing the Democrats or
the legacy media able to really line up and do
anything to stop Trump. And in fact, some of the
(03:56):
people that were the biggest roadblocks, like the Washington Post
in Jeff Bezos, are now kind of getting on board
the Trump train.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Well where were they going to go after what they
had been promising their their side, their audience for years.
I mean, what what do you say at this point?
You have to remember we would we would pop in
and out, we would read the occasional I know you're
you're a New York Times subscriber. I wasn't your time subscriber.
I'm trying to get away from it. But we're not
(04:27):
as steeped in all of the editorials and all of
the coverage that those papers were doing of Trump the
whole time, because we have other things we have to read.
And also, at some point, there's only so much propaganda
that you can stomach. But imagine that you had been steady.
You have been fed this steady diet of Trump is
going to get crushed in these trials. Trump is going
to end up, you know, sentenced for these these criminal wrongdoings.
(04:52):
Trump maybe is going to be financially ruined. That was
another thing they thought they would accomplish in New York
with that absurd Letitia James Uh, you know, corporate fraud trial,
and all of that came to nothing. In fact, it
elevated I think Trump to make sure that he was
going to win the presidency dramatically because people saw what
was going on. So they're they're in total rebuild mode.
(05:14):
I mean, this is this is the the time when
the Democrat Party is trying different things to come up
with some way to justify its existence to the people
who have been supporting it for this long, which is
why you have the the Bernie and aoc traveling show
going on right now. You know, they're going around together
(05:35):
and trying to raise money and all of this stuff.
But I think that Trump part, you know, Clay, you
said this, and I believe this is important. There's something
from your interaction with them this time. There's a poise
and a calm and almost a sense of relaxation that
Trump has. He has defeated the enemy. I mean, you know,
(05:56):
if you think of the media as the primary enemy,
he won. There's no way that that ever changes.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Now. He goes out a winner no matter what. And
part of his.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Legacy will be the destruction of the media manipulation machine
that the Democrats had relied on for our entire adult
lives until Trump came along, for our entire lives, not
just adult lives.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I also, I've seen Trump say this recently, Buck, I
hadn't heard it before cut fourteen here. Uh. He talked
about prevailing to what you're saying against the lawfair against him.
But he said that his initial read when the when
the raid at mar A Lago happened was that it
(06:37):
was going to be really bad for his presidential campaign. Uh.
And then he decided, well, I've got to just roll
with it. Listen to cut fourteen here.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Were they attacked or they attacked Mark Yes, and they
invaded it.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I said, oh boy, this is brutal for my election.
You thought initially he was going to be bad you have.
So the one thing I did is I talked to
the press.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I had this whatever anything like that happened, these were
crooked people on crooked when they did something like that,
or the indictment, but the indict and not one indictment.
It's four or five of right, okay, And that led
to eighty or ninety or because everyone had you know,
it was a totally rig deal. I would go out
(07:21):
that night and I'd have a news conference. I talk
to the people, and the people realized it was a scam.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It turned out to be a scam. Look with what happened,
and they're all out.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, I hear, I said in Air Force one with
you talking like one of those things.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It is kind of remarkable where we are. One more thing.
I asked him Buck whether he thought Kamala should run
for governor and if he had any advice he would
give her. Uh. Here was Trump on Kamala's future. Cut too.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Kamala is talking about running for governor? Would you give
her any advice as a politician? Do you think she
should run? Do you think she's gonna do it? What
do you think her future is?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Just let her run?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
She's she's as far as I don't want to be
giving people advice politically, but uh, one thing she's gonna do,
she's got to start doing interviews.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I mean you can't get away with both of them.
He Uh, but doing the COVID things he did no interviews,
and he got away with it because of COVID, because
you know, you're able to do things that you could do.
It was a great election, this last one, and I
do think this. I think it's much more historic the
way it happened than if I had gone And typically.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Don't you think in some way it's better because you
have the Senate in the House now in twenty four,
you're able to be more effective than you would have
been in twenty Probably.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's better because it shows how bad they were. Yeah,
there was so bad, and it shows that.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And when you see here, you're comparing, you comparing it
to the worst president of the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And I think in that way it's better there.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
What they were doing didn't work, and if I would
have done it more traditionally, you know, we wouldn't have
known that then.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, So those cuts you can listen up on up
on Clay and Buck. But I do think the biggest
takeaway is he is just reveling in it. Buck in
a way, to your point, he beat his enemies. I
gotta tell you when we walked out at the NCAA
Wrestling Championships, which I don't remember anybody ever really talking
(09:26):
about that much. I mean, he brought the attention with
him the entire place, standing ovation, chanting USA. It's now
happened at the super Bowl, It's now happened at the
Daytona five hundred, and it's now happened at the wrestling Championships.
Men who are overwhelmingly sports fans. I know a lot
of you are women sports fans as well, but men
(09:47):
are behind Trump at a level that I haven't seen
in a very very long time. Buck, I haven't seen
anything like this the reception. Yes, well, I can remember
in previous Republican administrations, including Trump's first, but going back
to the Bush years, it was a state of siege
day one right away, and they had a lot more
artillery than we did. They had a lot more voices
(10:10):
who would come in and tell you all these different
reasons why this new Republican or this this new new
administration is terrible for X, Y and Z. And you
know they're in the case of Bush, you know, he's dumb,
and Cheney's corrupt, and all these things that they would
say and put aside whatever you think of the specific criticisms.
They were able to turn the mood of the country
(10:32):
sour intentionally as a manipulation as a Republican was in charge.
This is the first time I've ever seen it where
they just can't do it. They know they can't do it.
They no longer have the power, They no longer have
the ability to create some story out of thin air.
That makes everyone think that there's some doom hanging over
(10:52):
the country because of the Republican that is in office
right now, as people have been saying, you know, the
vibes are the vibes are strong right now in Trump world.
Things are looking good. There's a lot of challenges ahead,
and we're very aware of that. There's a lot of
things that still need to be We're just in the
opening endia. I mean, there's a lot that needs to
be done. But this is I've never seen anything like
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this before. It's like the Democrat media apparatus has been defanged.
Still there, but it just doesn't have the same ability
that it used to. And I think trum Trump not
only recognizes that Clay Trump is the reason for that.
They threw They exhausted themselves, like a boxer who's thrown
so many punches and mysts that eventually just falls to
(11:37):
the canvas. They exhausted themselves trying to destroy Trump, and
now it's over for them. I thought it was interesting
when he said that he thought the initial raid, and
I think he called it, you know, the attack on
mar A Lago was going to be really successful for them,
because I think you and I are initial because I
remember when this happened. You and I's initial take was,
(11:57):
we know this is going to be good for Trump
with the Republicans because people are going to rally around him.
I think as soon as they rated mar A Lago
effectively the Republican nomination was over. I think what he
did a masterful job of was spinning it such that
the middle of the road voter came to come down
on his side as opposed to the Biden team side.
(12:19):
And I think that's where using the media and talking
every day was ultimately to his benefit in a way
that I don't think it was clear it would be right.
Democrats basically thought this will make him unelectable. They ended
up being wrong, and actually I think got him elected
and blew up in their faces. Yeah, well, they believe
(12:40):
that all these things that they would do would make
him unelectable. Think about It's the biggest political own goal
in history. I've never seen anything like this. No one's
ever seen anything like this.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
To have used all the powers of the abused powers,
of the prosecutorial arm of the government, of the media apparatus,
of the democrat power in Hollywood, and the culture to
try to destroy someone and actually make them even more
unstoppable is something that nobody could have anticipated. So it
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is the most remarkable political comeback in the history of
I think the history of the country. I mean, you
have to go back to like George Washington holding together
the army at Valley Forge for something that really is
so defying the odds.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
It's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And I think that Trump now is realizing that he's
able to pursue the agenda in a way where no
matter what the Left says or does. At this point,
he won, and now it's just what can he do
for the country. It really is about what's best for
the country now and not how do I keep the
wolves at bay so I can do the best for
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the country. There's still some of that, I get it,
but totally different the White House in the first term.
I remember I were friends with a lot of people
that were a Trump's circle in that White House, and
they were under siege the whole time, and it was
a very different world. People were worried they were going
to get sent to prison. People were worried that, you know,
maybe Trump was going to get impeached or he wasn't peached,
(14:14):
but you know, before it happened, they were concerned what
does that mean? And it has just been an astonishingly
positive thing for the country. I think lay that the
law Fair failed. If law Fair had worked, I don't
really know if we have I don't really know if
we're operating in a free country anymore with real elections.
I really think that that's a big, a big win
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for all of us.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It would have set the precedent. You always try to
put your chief political adversary in prison for the rest
of his life or her life if you're in a
position of power, which is what happens in Banana republics
and how they end up collapsing, because if it works,
that's what happens.
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Speaker 1 (16:13):
I just want to say something here.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
The President doesn't like Hamilton, which meaning the Broadway show.
So so Trump and I aligned on that. And also
I told you and people were, oh, book, why are
you such a sower puss? Like the JFK files, there's
nothing in the files. Trump described it as largely unspectacular.
In his exclusive interview with our own Clay Travis and
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board Air Force one. This is cut ten player.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You release the JFK files. So do you think Oswald
killed JFK personally?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I do, and I always held that.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, where he was was he helped? And based on
the papers, you know, we released eighty eight as I know,
it was okay, and in fact there was some that
they needed a little more time. Just now we should
go over to the office. We'll show you, yeah to
so nobody could say they've been released. I think the
papers have turned out to be somewhat unspectacular.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, I think that's true, and maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I tell you, Oh, Buck, the CIA killed Kennedy. Stop
leaving Oliver Stone.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Conspiracy theories everybody, It's nonsense. I did ask him, maybe
we'll play this when we come back. I asked him
whether he thought the shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania acted alone,
and whether as he released all the JFK files, he's
kind of contemplated how close he came to getting killed.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Buck. I was at Bedminster on Saturday, and I met
with a bunch of Trump's buddies up there, and they
said they still couldn't get over the fact the day
after he came within a quarter inch of getting his
head blown out, blown off, they found him just hitting
golf balls at the UH at Bedminster the next day,
just chilling. The guy is built different. I think that's
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in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. We're rolling through the Monday edition
of the program. We're playing some thanks to Caroline Levitt.
(19:04):
I was on Air Force one over the weekend, talked
to President Trump surrounding a lot of sports related questions.
They wanted to hit sports, which is why I was
at the NCAA wrestling tournament with the President. But you
just played. I thought it was a good answer the
RF Sorry the JFK files being released. I also asked
the President about whether he felt like the shooters acted
(19:28):
alone when they tried to kill him, both in Butler
and then he wanted to talk about the other guy
also at West Palm Beach. It's amazing those stories to
a large extent, have vanished since Trump won the election.
But it was only six eight months ago that we
all had within a quarter inch the president nearly killed
multiple times. Here he was explaining cut eleven about whether
(19:52):
he felt the investigations were trustworthy and whether the shooters
acted alone.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Do you think back now it's only been eight months
since Butler Pennsylvan, do you think that guy acted alone
based on what you've seen that crazy man? And do
you think back to your connection now to JFK, because
think the Lord he missed. But people for the next
hundred years would have been talking about that like we
talk about JFK.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
It might be anyways, I can't really be sure.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I really can't.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I sure because it bothers me that he had three
apps and two of them afar and maybe it was
more absent. Yeah, And it bothered me that the other
guy had like eighteen phones.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I thought it was six, but it was at And
the FBI has been very straight with me.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I believe, and I think they weren't at the beginning,
but now I think there was, and they told me
a lot about the case.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think maybe it won't be.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Able to be determined, but I don't believe it's you know,
it's something cenis to by the FBI.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Hey, Cash, he's going to do a great job.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So Buck. It is kind of crazy. And again, a
lot of people didn't focus on this. We did. The
FBI was simultaneously trying to put Trump in prison for
the rest of his life and also supposed to be
investigating who tried to kill him. It was an untenable conflict.
Now he's got Cash Patel in and he feels confident
(21:25):
that he's going to get the truth with Cash Pattel
and Dan Bongino, who are the one and two at
the FBI. But isn't it sort of extraordinary that the
two men, one of them is dead, but the other
individual who tried to kill Trump, we still know very
very little about their overall motivations, and especially the Butler
Pennsylvania guy came within a quarter inch of forever altering
(21:48):
the trajectory of world history.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Well, you've noticed that there's this trend within the National
security apparatus, or the law enforcement and national security apparatus.
Still don't really know about the Well, we don't know
the trans manifesto from the Nashville domestic terrorist school shooter, right.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
We're not allowed to know about that. We still don't
know very much about the Las Vegas mass shooter, mass murderer.
We don't know very much about this. Or the other
would be Trump assassin, I might add, And when it
is someone who does something terrible who puts the media
in a position to blame Trump, which again would be
(22:31):
hard for people trying to assassinate Trump, right, But when
it's somebody who is you're able to blame Trump for
the violence in some way. We know you know, we
know what they were having for lunch, when they were
in kindergarten, you know everything about them. And that just
goes to how much more interested the media is in
getting information out if not because it's in the public
(22:52):
interest broadly speaking, or because they want the truth to
be out there as a general matter, but because it's
about artisan hits, it's about pushing an agenda and attacking.
And so the same is true when they don't think
there's a partisan agenda when they can't shame their political opponents,
or if they want to protect people for political reasons,
as in the case of the trans manifesto. That is
(23:16):
a big That is just a recurring theme that we
see time and time again.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And I would tie it in even with what we're
seeing happen with Elon Musk right now, where he has
become the primary target of the antipathy that has been
built up for Trump. They failed to define Trump, they
went after him for a decade. Elon buck who is
going to come on the show. We're going to get
him lined up. He was on the plane as well.
(23:46):
I talked to him some. He is now the number
one target of the Democrat Party and their legacy media allies,
and they're attacking him through the ESLA universe more than
they're attacking him through his actual protocols, right. I mean,
(24:07):
he is obviously the CEO of multiple companies, but they're
going after his companies because he's going after waste and
fraud in the government, which is really pretty unbelievable. I
don't know that we've seen a precedent like this.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Well, well used to think that there were things that
could be done in government or things that could be
done for the government that everyone can just agree are
objectively good, right.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I mean, you would.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Think that something like getting rid of fraud wasted abuse.
And this is why we played the old clips of
Barack Obama and other Democrats sounding like they're trying to
put together doje Now. The thing is they say it
and don't mean it, meaning they talk about it but
don't Actually they either have not the political will or
(24:52):
the skill set or the interest in doing it, but
they'll talk about it because they know that it's broadly
popular with the American people, and now they're finally doing
something about this.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Also, this is the thing.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
That people don't like Elon to me, meaning because of
what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I don't mean people that for a long time, maybe
you don't like Tesla or have some problem with Elon.
But for Democrats to suddenly turn on Elon Musk because
of what he's doing means that they care more about
hating Trump than they do about saving the country and
perhaps even the world, by their own admission, which means
that something's wrong with you, right, there's something really off
(25:35):
with your psychology, with your worldview. If hating Trump is
more important than tackling climate change again their view of it,
not my view of it. Or bring the government in
line with the basic accounting standards that you would necessitate
or you would expect at any major corporation. That seems
(25:56):
pretty fair, pretty standard.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think what it is, and you hit on this
years ago that climate change is a religion for people
who don't believe in religion. I think there's a lot
of truth to that. I also think the twenty five percent,
because let's talk about the twenty five percent suffering from
Trump derangement syndrome. They have basically made Trump their graven idol.
(26:21):
Everything spins around what Trump does, and I care about politics.
It matters to me obviously. I love this job. I
feel very fortunate to get to talk to you guys.
But most of what I focus on outside of work
is my family. Right My three boys keep me very
very busy. I'm chasing them around, doing a lot of
(26:42):
different things with them. It seems to me buck like
many of the most deranged Trump lunatics, they don't have
anything else in their lives. They aren't really committed to
anything else. They have allowed their opposition of Trump to
be number one on their list of obligations and responsibilities.
(27:07):
It's not faith, it's not family, it's not even their work.
The way they define themselves is their opposition to Trump,
and what it ends up creating is oftentimes untenable perspectives
because if you really bought into climate change, and I
think these people are crazy, but if you did, then
(27:28):
Elon should be the biggest hero that has ever existed
in your life, because no individual has done more in
theory than Elon Musk. Now we can talk about electric
vehicles and the challenges and embedded and inherent in them,
but if you believe that fossil fuels and global warming
is going to destroy the planet, there's no one who
has done more to combat that than Elon Musk. And
(27:51):
now you're throwing Molotov cocktails at Tesla's and you're trying
to bankrupt this company. They their brains are so broken
and that I think really what it comes back to
is Trump is Satan and they really do believe that
he's Hitler, And I wonder what could Trump come out
in favor of that they would sud I mean, being
(28:12):
a buddies with Elon Musk is close to them being
forced to turn on their most important issues, right, Like
what could Trump endorse that they would flip on?
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Well, I think that a lot of this is rooted
in psychology and not policy. I think that the Democrats
are and this has been a mass conditioning, a sort
of mass mental manipulation that they have gone through or
they have been put through, and they've done it to
themselves in many cases. But we're fighting against emotions.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Now, Clay.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
People that are people that are hateful towards Tesla first
of all, just because you don't like the politics of
the CEO of the company.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's not like Tesla is.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
All Tesla is doing is things that everybody should think
is good, especially democrats. Making electric cars cool, advancing the
technology making electric you know, car economy and everything that
it go, the AI and all these things that goes
into it, bringing it deep into the twenty first century,
and building a different future, a more clean energy future for.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Those who care about that.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Objectively, it's a company that's doing good things that they
should all like.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
This is not a company that is selling you know,
I don't know, cluster bombs to the Third world dictators
and like the company itself is bad. So Elon is
trying to do something in the government that they don't like.
They'll turn on that company. This is based in emotion.
This is childish thinking from them. But I think you
have that with Democrats across the board right now, because
I don't even hear them making arguments. I just hear
(29:42):
them upset about things all the time. They're just upset
about everything.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
They want.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's it's always, oh, we want the trend to Aragua
gang members gone too. We just don't like the way
you're doing it. Oh, oh, we want waste, fraud and
abuse out of the government. We just don't like the
way you're doing it, and we think you're hitler for trying.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
We start to see this over and over again. They
actually don't have a better way of doing it. And
what you find yourself realizing is they don't really want
it to be done. They just want what they want
because they're overcome with the emotion of my team versus
your team. Trump wasn't supposed to win everything. I was
told by Fauci and Biden and Kamala and CBS Evening News,
(30:23):
and it was all bull crap. I feel like I'm
moron now, And instead of having the accountability as a party.
The Democrats could have accountability, They could look at themselves
and say what went.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wrong with us? It's I don't like you.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I'm mad at you, and I'm going to keep complaining
and throwing tantrums even when you're doing things that I
should say thank you for.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I just feel like this is the day and day.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Out reality of dealing with Democrats right now. I've seen
by Tim Walls, I'm cheering for Tesla stock to go down.
Oh that's really stupid. Sorry, No, I wasn't cheering. It
was a joke, you see what I mean. We knew
that I was stupid right away, right away.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
This is the lead on Axios that I was talking about, Buck,
I encourage you. Actually their am newsletter out there. I
enjoy this. I mean, I understand they're slanted towards the left,
but I like just seeing what their attempts are. This
was their head story lead story today. Top Democrats say
their party is in its deepest hole in fifty years.
Lowest favorability ever, no popular leader, no ability to do
(31:25):
anything in Congress, durable minority on the Supreme Court, no
influence with podcasters and social media accounts, skyrocketing that have
right leaning perspective, young voters going way more conservative bad
twenty twenty six map Senate retirements making the even harder. Uh,
there's panic. There's panic out there that like I might.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Have the team or pull that SoundBite from you and
I just might like listen to it once, you know,
once a day.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know, that's great. I love I love that. That
was fantastic. Yeah, it is. Uh, it is pretty Uh,
it's pretty incredible. Uh. And some of the stats I
mean are just amazing. I mean, we talked about young
men voting for Trump on a level greater than seventy
five year old men. I think that for a lot
(32:14):
of you out there, we got seventy five year old
men listening, we got eighteen year old men. I think
a lot of you out there are like, wow, really, yeah,
this is what the data is all reflecting. Gender gap exploding.
But it is, it's really pretty amazing. And Democrats are
panicked and it's a good time. And maybe you're a
(32:34):
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that you would like to have because after a big
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Speaker 5 (33:53):
Welcome back to Clay and Buck, you know, coming up
in a few minutes, just to have a little fun here.
I do think we always have a lot of fun here.
But you know what I mean, we should talk about
snow White, because oh yeah, wow, this is not just
a movie that is bombing as it should bomb. This
is a movie that when people look back at the
(34:15):
history of our time and wokeness in the culture, this
is going to be one of the data points kids
in thirty years writing about the death of wokeness in
the culture will be able to take. Well, they'll probably
have AI write their paper for them, but they'll be
able to take the snow White real snow White ticket
(34:37):
receipts and say, see what a disaster this thing is.
And I think it's indicative of where everything is going.
So we'll get into some of that. Here we go.
We got a Howard in Boca Ratone, a lovely place
where I go meet friends for dinner regularly.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What's going on, Howard?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
All right?
Speaker 7 (34:54):
So I need a little help countering some statements made
by my liberal friends. May make it. Throw it out
and you give me some more insight. So one statement,
Doge is ruining America, And that's because they're cutting funds
from the NIH and it's taking away from the ability
for us to research for diseases. I'm specifically mentioned MS.
(35:15):
Not sure why that's why connect throw the other one
or do I want to address that one's first?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Well, I mean sure, the short version is they're looking
at money that is wasted and useless in the endeavors
that they're spending it on. So I would I just
think that overall, it's quite clear the government spends way
too much money and waste way too much money, and
they're trying to stop this. Is it going to be
one hundred percent perfect. No, But Elon says that whenever
they figure out something is affecting an important program, they
(35:43):
cut back on it.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Clay, Yeah, I mean what I would say in general is,
and I think a lot of people are starting to
ask these questions, why should the federal government be funding
research when the research goes to public companies and they
make the money off and not the government. You're seeing
a lot of this, and I know, like Columbia, by
(36:04):
the way, has been the knee on federal funds, but
I think a lot of people had the reaction I did.
Why does Columbia university need four hundred million dollars in
taxpayer funds, Like why were we giving them these kind
of dollars in the first place. And that's not just
to pick on Columbia. There are lots of universities all
over the place. So look, I think medical research is important,
(36:27):
but I think if medical research is occurring, it should
be for for profit basis. By and large, the government
shouldn't be funding research where private companies get the benefit
from it. So again, we'll dive into some of this
and more more on snow White when we come back,
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