April 26, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a variety of compelling topics. The hosts kick off the hour discussing the latest insights from Congressman Chip Roy of Texas and David Zweig, a journalist known for his honest coverage of COVID-19 in New York Magazine. They explore Zweig's new book, which critically examines the decisions to shut down schools and the chaos surrounding COVID-19, emphasizing the historical significance of these events.
The conversation transitions to the political landscape, focusing on the aftermath of the 2024 election and the revelations about President Joe Biden's mental and physical health. The hosts highlight the shift in media narratives, including Jake Tapper's upcoming book and Elizabeth Warren's interview on the Talk Easy podcast, where she defends her previous statements about Biden's acuity. They critique the media's portrayal of Biden during his presidency, comparing it to historical propaganda.
Clay and Buck also delve into the broader implications of Biden's presidency, discussing the role of Jill Biden and the political strategies surrounding Biden's re-election campaign. They analyze the impact of COVID-19 on Biden's campaign and the media's role in shaping public perception.
The hour concludes with a discussion on immigration policies, particularly focusing on the challenges of deporting illegal immigrants who arrived during Biden's administration. They emphasize the importance of addressing this issue to maintain the integrity of the United States.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you out there listening and hanging out with us.
We have got a bevy of stories to dive in
with all of you today. Congressman Chip Roy, great State
of Texas will join us at one thirty Eastern time.
David's wide who I would say Buck of the left
(00:25):
leaning media may have been the most honest person in
the way that he covered COVID for New York Magazine
if I remember correctly back in the day. And he's
got a book out that is just savaging the decision
to shut down schools that he wrote about for some time,
masking all of the chaos that came out of COVID,
(00:48):
and I think we will enjoy that conversation with him,
and I hope that his book, which is designed to
be an early version of the historical record of what
we went through with COVID, will become a clarion call
for those who are pursuing truth going forward on the
historic record, because one thing you and I have been
(01:09):
talking about for years now is not only we knew
you and I early on that much of the COVID
failures were inexcusable. But what is the lesson that will
be drawn in the decades ahead for people who are
studying this era of history. And I hope we are
starting to get some of that truth out into the
(01:29):
public record. As you know, you read the book, the
Great Influenza Book that everybody suddenly started buying up during COVID,
and much of the way that we responded to the
influenza epidemic the Spanish flu back in the nineteen nineteen
ish era, unfortunately, was reflected one hundred years later. And
(01:53):
one of the things that you saw, Buck, and we'll
dive into this a little bit later with David Zwaig,
but just off the top here, one of the things
that you saw was people just didn't want to talk
about it. They just kind of put it in the
background and pretended that it hadn't happened at all. Now,
that was much more traumatic in general, because the percentage
of people who died was higher. The people who died
(02:14):
from the Spanish flu tended to be much younger, whereas
the people who had COVID issues in this country thankfully
tended to be on the older end of the spectrum.
I say thankfully because you didn't have otherwise fully healthy
people dropping who otherwise would have had decades of life. Thankfully,
COVID did not have hardly any impact at all on
(02:35):
the young. Because if you had reversed this and COVID
had had the same impact on the super young that
it did on the age, I think the way that
America and the world responded would have been very different.
But this book that he is writing, I've got a
copy of it in my house and I've already started
to read it a little bit, is I think, an
important historic record.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So we will talk with him at two. Speaking of
important historic records, all of the books are now being
written that we told you would be written in the
wake of the twenty twenty four election having to do
with Joe Biden, and the mental and physical lies about
him being at the peak of his abilities are now
(03:16):
being exposed. You can go back in time. We told
you they would try to protect him as long as
they could. They would argue that he was sharp as attack.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Now even Jake Tapper, who tried to argue that any
attacks on Joe Biden for his mental and physical health
were cheap fakes. Now even he has written a book
that is going to be out I think in the
next couple of weeks, and even the left leaning media
are now holding their politician's feet to the fire when
(03:47):
they do interviews. This interview that I want to play
for you guys is of Elizabeth Warren. Buck does a
very good Elizabeth Warren impersonation, if I must say so myself.
This they this is uh. I want to make sure
that I give credit because I got an email from
these guys saying, hey, we're an independent podcast and can
(04:09):
you if you're going to share this. This is on
the Talk Easy podcast. This is Sam Gregoso interviewing Elizabeth
Warren and they have this exchange about Joe Biden's Did
I mispronounce that?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Did you say?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Greg I think it's Fredoso right the way I have
it written here is Grugoso. But it's possible our team
changed the got the name wrong. But Fragoso or grug Goso. No, it' scrugoso.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I should just shut my face keep going uh. This
is this is the podcast that it's from. I just
wanted to give them credit. Elizabeth Warren being held accountable
for her lies and listen to how she responds to
the questions about Joe Biden's physical and mental well being.
This is cut one.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Do you regret saying that President Biden had a mental acuity,
he had a sharpness to him. You said that up
until July of last year.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I said what I believed to be true.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And do you think he was as sharp as you?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I said, I had not seen decline, and I hadn't
at that point.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
You did not see any decline From twenty twenty four
Joe Biden to twenty twenty one Joe Biden.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Oh oh, I said that, you know what the thing is?
He Look, he was sharp, He was on his feet.
I saw him live event. I had meetings with him
a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Senator on his feet is not praise. He can speak
in sentences is not praise.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
What you have to remember here is that I was
he an out and out vegetable.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
No, he was not.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He was able to open his eyes and blink.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
And I did not see an S O S coming
from him, and.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So Clay Clay, I saw one of his feet is
an all timeline. He was able to stand is an
unbelievable DESI by.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
This is like the conversation you would have about somebody
who was declining and like changed their will in the
last days.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Were they of sound mind or not? Well, he was
on his feet.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
We're talking about the president of the United States, the
commander in.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Chief, and she is saying, essentially, he wasn't a full
blown vegetable. So don't blame me. I just kept going
with the rest of the crowd here. She's not alone.
All the rest of them did this too. And I
think that more than anything, what happened here, Clay, was
(06:51):
that the anti Trump media became so it was like
a river that could only flow in one direction, and
nobody was ever Nobody was ever told what you're saying
is too crazy. And I mean nobody at MSNBC, nobody
in the Democrat Party, New York Times, New York Times,
Washington Post. Whatever you said about Trump, he's Hitler. He's
(07:15):
worse than Hitler. He's a monster. Whatever it was was
actually supported by the infrastructure of the Democrat Party. The
apparatus was cheering for it. So all corrective mechanisms were gone.
And so when you have that, you can have a
situation like exactly what transpired, where they just knew there's
(07:38):
no upside to speaking the truth about Biden. Anything that
is going to go against Trump is incentivized within our
own ecosystem, and so they all just had their marching
orders as crazy as I was going to say, like Lemmings,
But as you will see in my new book, which
has finally been cleared by the CIA, Lemmings don't commit
(07:59):
mass suicide everybody. That's a crazy story. But there's other
things that you talk about in the book that you
will like as well. Yes, Clay, this was something that
they now have to take some degree of accountability for
when there's really no pain politically for them, because they
can't move on without addressing it at some level, because
(08:20):
people like you and me able just keep on dunking
them under the water on this.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
As we should.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You know, I thought it was interesting too. I saw
a graphic I think it was from Axios this morning
that the coverage of misinformation and disinformation has basically ended
on CNN and on MSNBC. They're not trotting out their
fact checkers anymore. I would submit to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You, Buck that the Joe Biden cover up ended the
misinformation and disinformation era. Now Trump winning obviously had a
substantial impact on that as well.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But when the.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Entire left wing media, legacy media wind up together, and
I think you're right that maybe the most devastating single
statement that anybody made was Joe Scarborough basically lighting his
entire career on fire when he said this was the
best version of Biden.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
His show hasn't recovered and those networks haven't recovered from this.
So here's the thing, Elizabeth Warren is trying to rewrite
history in real time here in this way. It's not
clay that they said. The narrative at the time go
back to exactly what you brought up with Joe Scarborough.
(09:38):
The narrative at the time wasn't Biden isn't as bad
as they say. He's semi coherent and maybe we can
push him across the finish line and then have VP
kammaa takeover. That would have been somewhat disingenuous or you know,
that would have been dishonest, But on a scale of
one to ten, dishonesty level six or seven, they went
(10:01):
to dishonesty level eleven, which was Biden is the best
he has ever been. Biden is in fact the sharpest
version he has ever been, which just goes to show
the desperation in the lie.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know that that's what it really was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It wouldn't be enough to try to just soft pedal
it and say, look, he's lost his fastball, but you.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Know, I think he can still get it done. That's
not what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
There's like Biden's fine, how dare you bring anything up?
It was Stalinism level propaganda. It was this guy. It's
like Kim Jong ill and on and Kim Il sung
who can all hit holes in one every time they
play golf. You know, it was that level madness. Let me,
by the way, you were correct. It is Sam Forgoso.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh oh, look at the buckster he thought, you know,
I got a sharp ear.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm just trying to help so our staff, who I'm
immediately gonna throw under the bus. I wouldn't they write it.
They wrote it as Sam Grugoso. But is Sam Fragoso
who had that interview? And I do give him credit
because anyone who said that Biden was able to serve
as president in a fully honest media they should have
(11:16):
to answer for that. They should have to explain why
they said that, and not only the not only politicians.
Have you ever heard Joe Scarborough be asked or pushed
in any way on that viral clip where he argued
that this was the best version of Biden that had
ever existed, has held him accountable.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
To be fair, I think that he is just trying
to ride out things and wait and wait so that
by the time anyone asks him about like I don't
think he's putting himself in a position where even Elizabeth Warren,
because she's not as bad based on the soundbites with
this as some of the others, she's trying to take
the medicine.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think Barborough knows that it's it's brand annihilation that
he faces if the wrong person gets him on the
hot seat and asks him this question, you can't come
back from that. Why should someone listen to Joe Scarborough
about anything? If he's that dumb or that dishonest, Why
would you care what he thinks about a single thing
and exists.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't care what ice cream flavor he thinks is best.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yours answers Pistacio, which is, by the way, maybe even
worse than Joe Scarborough's answer would be to be fair, You.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
See that Pistascio lovers get from Clay and just flute
playing ways outrageous.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, take some of your calls on this. I do
think that these conversations that we're gonna have with David
Swig are important. And if you are out there and
you argued that this was the best version of Biden,
the two by four is coming for you because these
books are coming out and everyone in the legacy media
is trying to cover their backsides on this, and so
(12:58):
they're now covering the release of the books in every
little detail. For instance, I'm reading that Biden was supposed
to do his prep work from Camp David and he
got too tired and he just went outside by the
pool and fell asleep, which but remember they were telling
everybody his prep has been amazing, and then they tried
(13:18):
to say, well, he has a little bit of a
cold after the debate performance. Imagine you're trying to prepare
the president for debate and he's like, I'm tired, and
he just goes outside by the pool and falls asleep.
That's a story that's out there right now.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, there's a movie, The Death of Stalin that's
actually pretty clever for what it is, and it's a farce,
right but it's what does everyone do when Stalin dies
around him? The Fall of Biden movie that you could
make where you basically go weekend at Bernie's. I mean,
you just it would be if if anyone in Hollywood
wanted to take this idea, it would be utterly hilarious
(13:56):
and I think everybody would want to go see it,
and you could base it off of the real stories here.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
By the way, I will say, as we go to break,
imagine what Jill Biden saw. Imagine what the wife of
the president, the first lady, what she saw. I still
think she is maybe the biggest villain here because she
was willing to drag his basic corpse right across the
finish line so she could keep living in the White House.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean she is. I imagine I.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Have a I want to just because I feel like
fighting with Clay today. I have a very different take
on Jill Biden that I would like to share when
we come back. I have a very different take than
you on that I do not expect. She is to
me the worst villain here. Buck thinks she's a hero.
We'll talk about him.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We No, no, no, that's not the take. You you
naughty man. We'll come back. Though.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got a lot
going on here today. We've got some great guests lined
up for you. We'll talk about the fight over Abrego
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Pete hegg Seth's still SEC deaf today, going to be
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(16:31):
on over there. But first up, Clay, just to give
you a quick a scorching take, because I liked I
like to do scorching takes. Clay says that Jill Biden,
as we're all now looking at the Democrats scrambling for
cover on the on the giant and absurd lie that
Joe Biden was of sound mind not just to run
for reelection, but for the final year of his presidency. Really,
(16:52):
I would argue the final two or three years. But
they're all scrambling for cover. Jill Biden, Clay says, is
the chief villain. I just want to offer this different
take on it, Jill Biden. Yes, in the view of
the American people and her responsibility as a citizen, what
she did is outrageous. However, Clay, she had to make
sure that he stayed in the saddle long enough to
(17:13):
give the Biden family all their pardons to negotiate an
exit to You know, I think that she may have
known that things were all crashing down around her and
she had to keep the charade going as long as
possible for her immediate family, for her son, her son Hunter,
and for the rest of the crew. That's my take
(17:34):
on this. I think she knew and was scrambling. Oh,
this is a fun this is a fun topic. I'm
going to come back and tell you why she is
the most heinous person in America. But I don't think
your defense of her is an awful one. So that
is so generous of you. Yeah, thank you, You're welcome.
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program, all Right,
Buck made a defense of Joe Biden as hey, she
knew things were coming unraveled, and she wanted to make
sure the family at large was taken care of, whether
it's Hunter's pardon, whether it's the pardon for Joe Biden's brother,
whether it's the pardons for Biden corrupt family, inc.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I don't disagree with that defense.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
My argument, though, would be all of that could have
happened even if Joe did not have to run for reelection.
So to me, Jill better than anyone, had to see
Joe behind closed doors, when he wasn't shot up with drugs,
when he wasn't at his best ability to remember he
(19:49):
was bad in public, But that was probably the best
version of Joe they could put forward. Imagine all the
things that she saw, as any spouse would. That showed
how rapidly Joe was declining. And unfortunately, I know some
of you have probably had to go through this. It's
(20:10):
usually the spouse that recognizes dementia before anybody else does,
because the spouse, either the husband or the wife, is
interacting far more than anybody else would be, and so
they pick up on these signals before anybody else would,
and sometimes they will help to cover because they don't
(20:31):
want to admit what they're seeing. But to me, Jill, certainly,
by twenty twenty two, I think it was reckless for
them to run Joe, and I think Joe Biden's mental
and physical decline would have revealed itself buck if COVID
hadn't happened, because I don't think they would have been
able to hide him. And I think on the campaign
(20:54):
trail he would have given away his decline in a
way that he didn't when they were having him in
the basement campaign.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Look, I don't want us to go too deep into
into bidenology at this phase.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He's a complete political irrelevancy.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And you know, we got some big things that Trump
is handling right now in this moment, I would just say,
I think that Jill saw this whole thing as the
family business extended through old man Biden, and wanted to
maximize the leverage for him and the family going forward. Clay,
I think if they had, if she had talked about
it too early, there would have been pressure on him
(21:31):
to step down. That's the other part of this, right
there would have been press and pressure to step down
and not do the part in be you know, think
about it, right, let's say it's January twenty twenty four.
Finally she says, look, you know Joe Biden is and
that would have been late, but not super late as
what they did. If my husband is having you know,
health issues whatever, well if he's not, if he's not
(21:54):
healthy enough in January to run, he's not healthy enough
to stay as president, he gets pressure to step Downamala
as sends, then they'd say, well hold on, you will
totally hurt Kamala's chances if the corruption of the Biden
family is front loaded into the election cycle. So I'm
just I'm just saying, look, is Jill ruthless and awful? Absolutely?
(22:14):
Was she play in the hand that she was dealt
pretty reasonably? I don't know a little. I sound like
the Biden family lawyer over here, but I think I
can see how this went down.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I had this conversation with my wife, and I believe
I've said it on the.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Radio before, Yeah, that you wouldn't that she wouldn't let
you go and make a total jackass of yourself. Knowing
Laura pretty well, I think that is one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
If you start, I told her, if you start to
recognize that, given the job that we have and given
the jobs when we're talking in public, if you start
to recognize behind the scenes that I am losing it,
you need to be the person who says, hey, we're
starting to dial back what we're doing publicly.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Laura actually made my wife a really interesting point that
I think could actually work towards your Biden.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Family defense argument. Here.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Her defense of Jill was, she knows how bad he is,
but she has bought into the idea that Trump will
destroy the country, and so even though her husband's brain
was scrambled eggs, she was thinking to herself, for the
benefit of the country. I think this is maybe how
she rationalized it. I have to prop up Joe because
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Trump is so awful. But then Buck the debate happened,
and then I think she shifted her anger from Trump
is going to destroy the country to I hate everyone
that's coming after my husband, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, probably
Kamala because we've seen the frosty relationships between the two
(23:53):
of them, and it seems like a lot of times
the spouse is the one who is angrier. Joe Biden
can get over people being mean to him. Donald Trump
may be able to get over people meaning being mean
to him. It seems quite clear that they can. I
bet Malanya, and I bet Jill, and some of these
political spouses don't get over it anywhere near as well.
(24:17):
And they're actually the ones that want to gut the
adversaries metaphorically speaking, I'm sure, I'm sure you have this
in your own life, and I'm sure many of the
guys listening to this the same thing. I can walk
off even a cheap shot, far more easily than my
wife will walk off somebody else's cheap shot of me
(24:39):
of me right, same thing with you right in media
that Laura would I would not want them to be
in the same room with her because of things.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's a different deal.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like you and I and I might be like, look,
you know whatever, but like the wife in the background
is like, oh, I've got your number, like they don't.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's the same thing here.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And so I think what happened was her anger at
Trump pivoted to her anger at the Democrat Party because
she thought they were more disloyal to him than even
Trump was. And Buck when you read those pictures, she
looked pretty happy when Trump came to visit the White House.
I'm sorry she didn't look like somebody who felt as
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if she were turning over the keys to the mansion
to Adolf Hitler. I think, I really do. She wore
the red dress on election Day.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, that was after Biden had been completely humiliated, and
in her mind, I think, be great. I also think
that again, I'm not the consolieri of the Biden family.
I'm just trying to look at it from their side
of the poker table. You know, a little devil, a
little Biden devil's advocate here. I think Clay that she
gets to walk away from this whole thing now and say,
(25:46):
Kamala completely screwed the whole thing up. You shouldn't have
bailed on my Joe. He could have taken it across
the finish line. And again, Biden's record, want to know,
against Trump, people can say that's insane, that's in whatever
that is actually the historical record, and Jill I think
sees it that way too. At least that's the narrat Look,
(26:06):
people tell themselves whatever they want to believe.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
We all need our and they will argue.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And I think this is going to be argued for
years and years to come that the Biden people will argue,
I think more so in the years to come than
they even are now. Hey, picking Kamala was a disaster.
We could have dragged Joe across the finish line. Yes,
that will be the argument. People get you and I
can sit here and argue about that as we have before.
(26:32):
But there will certainly be a Biden camp that says
that because you can't you can't prove otherwise. And we
know Kamala got just Kama got crushed. By the way,
I don't believe any of the stuff that says Kamala
they want her to run again. You know, we can
mark this down, mark this down, buck prediction. All right,
there's no way, no way Kamala is going to be
their nominee the next time around. But I know that's
(26:54):
a ways out. So here's the other thing. I don't
hear anybody defending eighty one million votes anymore. Have you
noticed how that story just kind of vanished? And I mean,
I'm just finished the new book that I was writing.
When you go look at the eighty one million votes
in the context of the last ten years, twelve years
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of American politics.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
There is no way on the plant.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Not even Democrats now are looking around like Joe Biden
getting eighty one million votes is the craziest. Now, look
the rig job COVID. Did they maximize every possible way
to get ballots? And yes, did they harvest like crazy?
But there's no way buck eighty one million votes ever happened.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm gonna bring us.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I'm gonna bring us now clay into present day, okay
with Donald Trump this morning, the following, and you could
take this and run with it. How can Biden let
millions of criminals into our country totally unchecked and unvetted,
with no legal authority to do so? Yet I in
order to make up for this assault to our nation
and expected to go through a lengthy legal process separately
(28:02):
for each and every criminal alien as usual, two different
standards only leading to complete and total destruction of the USA.
And then I love it in all caps, make America
great again. I think this is the fundamental question that
faces the country right now, more so even than the
tariffs and the economy stuff, which I know is getting
a bit of focus again, because you know, the market
(28:23):
is sea sawing down yesterday up today. Put that aside
for a moment. We'll get back to it. Clay, What
does it mean if, even when you have a Republican administration,
the Democrats can flood the country and there's no way
to unflood it, which is really essentially what the courts
are going to be deciding here, or at least that's
what the courts are aligning themselves up for. I don't
(28:46):
know what to tell people. I don't know what the
answer is. If Trump can't actually do the deportations of
the I'm talking just Biden arrivals now, not talking about
you know, someone's abuela who's been here since nineteen ninety two.
I'm talking about the people that just arrived illegally as
part of this game. We could talk about that other
thing later if Biden, I mean, if Trump can't get
(29:07):
rid of them, what do we do? We have a
country really that is worthy of the name of What
is this place?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I mean, this is what I said yesterday, and I
probably should just make it simple. It's a math problem.
You cannot deport right now. We're doing around three hundred
and fifty thousand people a year. If that is the
rate by which we will deport illegal immigrants just in
the four years that Biden let ten million plus in,
(29:35):
it will take us about thirty years to get those
people out. That's presuming that there's not going to be
some other Democrat who opens the borders wide open again.
That was their gamble. Their gamble was once these people
get here, they're never going home, and eventually there's going
to have to be a solution for them. They're playing
a game that's generational in nature, and Trump is trying
(29:58):
to fight back against it, and the state and that
he's allowed to fight with are completely different than the
ones that Biden was allowed to put in place, which
is why why the Abrallo Garcia story is interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's not really about him. It's about what are the
protocols and processes by which Trump can accelerate the deportation
from people inside the country, not rejecting people at the
southern border, which he is satisfied and now solved that problem.
The next equation here is how do you get the
ten million plus in the last four years out and
to say nothing of what was the number I gave
(30:30):
you twenty five million and you came up with a
number of thirty million. We don't even know what the
total number of illegals living in the country right now
actually is.
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Speaker 3 (34:10):
Signan Travis.
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I don't know what the fun the number is right now,
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(34:32):
think she's a book burner, but I think she would
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so they are rapidly dwindling. I see the stack in
the garage every time I drive in and out, and
there's not a lot of them left.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Let's take some calls here and some talkbacks. Laura in
Pennsylvania has a story to share.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
What's up, Laura him getting back to talking about the
ridiculousness of people claiming they didn't see the decline of Biden.
It was five years ago when my child was twelve
years old, and we're listening to either debate or speech,
(35:16):
and Joe Biden was up there and her not even
paying attention. Twelve years old knows nothing about politics. She
stops and she says, Mom, why does she sound like
pop Hoop? I said, honey, because you like pop pop.
There's a twelve year old child who was able to
(35:37):
see all the signs, the blank stairs, the rise and
anger quickly. And you're telling me that grown adults. I
didn't see this years ago. And for Joe Biden to
allow that to happen, and the rapid decline, knowing all
(35:59):
the stress, everything, I find it despicable because I did everything.
I did everything in my power to protect my father
from anything, anything and everything. And I just find it
sick named that she stood by and watched it happen.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Laura, thank you so much for calling in Clay And
it is true. I even said the same thing on
the air that the Biden some of the stuff reminded
me of my maternal grandfather, who's a great American, a patriot,
a war you know, a guy who was a veteran,
but when he got to a certain age, you could
just see it. We all saw it with Biden. Everyone
a twelve year old that Laura just talked about, her
daughter saw it. If he hadn't debated on June twenty seventh,
(36:42):
they would have legitimately tried to get him re elected,
one which is wild to even think about. Keep rolling here,
we get some great guests for you.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Next hour. Chip Roy Congressman Texas
Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you out there listening and hanging out with us.
We have got a bevy of stories to dive in
with all of you today. Congressman Chip Roy, great State
of Texas will join us at one thirty Eastern time.
David's wide who I would say Buck of the left
(00:25):
leaning media may have been the most honest person in
the way that he covered COVID for New York Magazine
if I remember correctly back in the day. And he's
got a book out that is just savaging the decision
to shut down schools that he wrote about for some time,
masking all of the chaos that came out of COVID,
(00:48):
and I think we will enjoy that conversation with him,
and I hope that his book, which is designed to
be an early version of the historical record of what
we went through with COVID, will become a clarion call
for those who are pursuing truth going forward on the
historic record, because one thing you and I have been
(01:09):
talking about for years now is not only we knew
you and I early on that much of the COVID
failures were inexcusable. But what is the lesson that will
be drawn in the decades ahead for people who are
studying this era of history. And I hope we are
starting to get some of that truth out into the
(01:29):
public record. As you know, you read the book, the
Great Influenza Book that everybody suddenly started buying up during COVID,
and much of the way that we responded to the
influenza epidemic the Spanish flu back in the nineteen nineteen
ish era, unfortunately, was reflected one hundred years later. And
(01:53):
one of the things that you saw, Buck, and we'll
dive into this a little bit later with David Zwaig,
but just off the top here, one of the things
that you saw was people just didn't want to talk
about it. They just kind of put it in the
background and pretended that it hadn't happened at all. Now,
that was much more traumatic in general, because the percentage
of people who died was higher. The people who died
(02:14):
from the Spanish flu tended to be much younger, whereas
the people who had COVID issues in this country thankfully
tended to be on the older end of the spectrum.
I say thankfully because you didn't have otherwise fully healthy
people dropping who otherwise would have had decades of life. Thankfully,
COVID did not have hardly any impact at all on
(02:35):
the young. Because if you had reversed this and COVID
had had the same impact on the super young that
it did on the age, I think the way that
America and the world responded would have been very different.
But this book that he is writing, I've got a
copy of it in my house and I've already started
to read it a little bit, is I think, an
important historic record.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So we will talk with him at two. Speaking of
important historic records, all of the books are now being
written that we told you would be written in the
wake of the twenty twenty four election having to do
with Joe Biden, and the mental and physical lies about
him being at the peak of his abilities are now
(03:16):
being exposed. You can go back in time. We told
you they would try to protect him as long as
they could. They would argue that he was sharp as attack.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Now even Jake Tapper, who tried to argue that any
attacks on Joe Biden for his mental and physical health
were cheap fakes. Now even he has written a book
that is going to be out I think in the
next couple of weeks, and even the left leaning media
are now holding their politician's feet to the fire when
(03:47):
they do interviews. This interview that I want to play
for you guys is of Elizabeth Warren. Buck does a
very good Elizabeth Warren impersonation, if I must say so myself.
This they this is uh. I want to make sure
that I give credit because I got an email from
these guys saying, hey, we're an independent podcast and can
(04:09):
you if you're going to share this. This is on
the Talk Easy podcast. This is Sam Gregoso interviewing Elizabeth
Warren and they have this exchange about Joe Biden's Did
I mispronounce that?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Did you say?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Greg I think it's Fredoso right the way I have
it written here is Grugoso. But it's possible our team
changed the got the name wrong. But Fragoso or grug Goso. No, it' scrugoso.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I should just shut my face keep going uh. This
is this is the podcast that it's from. I just
wanted to give them credit. Elizabeth Warren being held accountable
for her lies and listen to how she responds to
the questions about Joe Biden's physical and mental well being.
This is cut one.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Do you regret saying that President Biden had a mental acuity,
he had a sharpness to him. You said that up
until July of last year.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I said what I believed to be true.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And do you think he was as sharp as you?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I said, I had not seen decline, and I hadn't
at that point.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
You did not see any decline From twenty twenty four
Joe Biden to twenty twenty one Joe Biden.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Oh oh, I said that, you know what the thing is?
He Look, he was sharp, He was on his feet.
I saw him live event. I had meetings with him
a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Senator on his feet is not praise. He can speak
in sentences is not praise.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
What you have to remember here is that I was
he an out and out vegetable.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
No, he was not.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
He was able to open his eyes and blink.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
And I did not see an S O S coming
from him, and.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So Clay Clay, I saw one of his feet is
an all timeline. He was able to stand is an
unbelievable DESI by.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
This is like the conversation you would have about somebody
who was declining and like changed their will in the
last days.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Were they of sound mind or not? Well, he was
on his feet.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
We're talking about the president of the United States, the
commander in.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Chief, and she is saying, essentially, he wasn't a full
blown vegetable. So don't blame me. I just kept going
with the rest of the crowd here. She's not alone.
All the rest of them did this too. And I
think that more than anything, what happened here, Clay, was
(06:51):
that the anti Trump media became so it was like
a river that could only flow in one direction, and
nobody was ever Nobody was ever told what you're saying
is too crazy. And I mean nobody at MSNBC, nobody
in the Democrat Party, New York Times, New York Times,
Washington Post. Whatever you said about Trump, he's Hitler. He's
(07:15):
worse than Hitler. He's a monster. Whatever it was was
actually supported by the infrastructure of the Democrat Party. The
apparatus was cheering for it. So all corrective mechanisms were gone.
And so when you have that, you can have a
situation like exactly what transpired, where they just knew there's
(07:38):
no upside to speaking the truth about Biden. Anything that
is going to go against Trump is incentivized within our
own ecosystem, and so they all just had their marching
orders as crazy as I was going to say, like Lemmings,
But as you will see in my new book, which
has finally been cleared by the CIA, Lemmings don't commit
(07:59):
mass suicide everybody. That's a crazy story. But there's other
things that you talk about in the book that you
will like as well. Yes, Clay, this was something that
they now have to take some degree of accountability for
when there's really no pain politically for them, because they
can't move on without addressing it at some level, because
(08:20):
people like you and me able just keep on dunking
them under the water on this.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
As we should.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You know, I thought it was interesting too. I saw
a graphic I think it was from Axios this morning
that the coverage of misinformation and disinformation has basically ended
on CNN and on MSNBC. They're not trotting out their
fact checkers anymore. I would submit to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You, Buck that the Joe Biden cover up ended the
misinformation and disinformation era. Now Trump winning obviously had a
substantial impact on that as well.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
But when the.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Entire left wing media, legacy media wind up together, and
I think you're right that maybe the most devastating single
statement that anybody made was Joe Scarborough basically lighting his
entire career on fire when he said this was the
best version of Biden.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
His show hasn't recovered and those networks haven't recovered from this.
So here's the thing, Elizabeth Warren is trying to rewrite
history in real time here in this way. It's not
clay that they said. The narrative at the time go
back to exactly what you brought up with Joe Scarborough.
(09:38):
The narrative at the time wasn't Biden isn't as bad
as they say. He's semi coherent and maybe we can
push him across the finish line and then have VP
kammaa takeover. That would have been somewhat disingenuous or you know,
that would have been dishonest, But on a scale of
one to ten, dishonesty level six or seven, they went
(10:01):
to dishonesty level eleven, which was Biden is the best
he has ever been. Biden is in fact the sharpest
version he has ever been, which just goes to show
the desperation in the lie.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know that that's what it really was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It wouldn't be enough to try to just soft pedal
it and say, look, he's lost his fastball, but you.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Know, I think he can still get it done. That's
not what they were saying.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
There's like Biden's fine, how dare you bring anything up?
It was Stalinism level propaganda. It was this guy. It's
like Kim Jong ill and on and Kim Il sung
who can all hit holes in one every time they
play golf. You know, it was that level madness. Let me,
by the way, you were correct. It is Sam Forgoso.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh oh, look at the buckster he thought, you know,
I got a sharp ear.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I'm just trying to help so our staff, who I'm
immediately gonna throw under the bus. I wouldn't they write it.
They wrote it as Sam Grugoso. But is Sam Fragoso
who had that interview? And I do give him credit
because anyone who said that Biden was able to serve
as president in a fully honest media they should have
(11:16):
to answer for that. They should have to explain why
they said that, and not only the not only politicians.
Have you ever heard Joe Scarborough be asked or pushed
in any way on that viral clip where he argued
that this was the best version of Biden that had
ever existed, has held him accountable.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
To be fair, I think that he is just trying
to ride out things and wait and wait so that
by the time anyone asks him about like I don't
think he's putting himself in a position where even Elizabeth Warren,
because she's not as bad based on the soundbites with
this as some of the others, she's trying to take
the medicine.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I think Barborough knows that it's it's brand annihilation that
he faces if the wrong person gets him on the
hot seat and asks him this question, you can't come
back from that. Why should someone listen to Joe Scarborough
about anything? If he's that dumb or that dishonest, Why
would you care what he thinks about a single thing
and exists.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't care what ice cream flavor he thinks is best.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yours answers Pistacio, which is, by the way, maybe even
worse than Joe Scarborough's answer would be to be fair, You.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
See that Pistascio lovers get from Clay and just flute
playing ways outrageous.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, take some of your calls on this. I do
think that these conversations that we're gonna have with David
Swig are important. And if you are out there and
you argued that this was the best version of Biden,
the two by four is coming for you because these
books are coming out and everyone in the legacy media
is trying to cover their backsides on this, and so
(12:58):
they're now covering the release of the books in every
little detail. For instance, I'm reading that Biden was supposed
to do his prep work from Camp David and he
got too tired and he just went outside by the
pool and fell asleep, which but remember they were telling
everybody his prep has been amazing, and then they tried
(13:18):
to say, well, he has a little bit of a
cold after the debate performance. Imagine you're trying to prepare
the president for debate and he's like, I'm tired, and
he just goes outside by the pool and falls asleep.
That's a story that's out there right now.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, there's a movie, The Death of Stalin that's
actually pretty clever for what it is, and it's a farce,
right but it's what does everyone do when Stalin dies
around him? The Fall of Biden movie that you could
make where you basically go weekend at Bernie's. I mean,
you just it would be if if anyone in Hollywood
wanted to take this idea, it would be utterly hilarious
(13:56):
and I think everybody would want to go see it,
and you could base it off of the real stories here.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
By the way, I will say, as we go to break,
imagine what Jill Biden saw. Imagine what the wife of
the president, the first lady, what she saw. I still
think she is maybe the biggest villain here because she
was willing to drag his basic corpse right across the
finish line so she could keep living in the White House.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean she is. I imagine I.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Have a I want to just because I feel like
fighting with Clay today. I have a very different take
on Jill Biden that I would like to share when
we come back. I have a very different take than
you on that I do not expect. She is to
me the worst villain here. Buck thinks she's a hero.
We'll talk about him.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We No, no, no, that's not the take. You you
naughty man. We'll come back. Though.
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Speaker 2 (16:09):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got a lot
going on here today. We've got some great guests lined
up for you. We'll talk about the fight over Abrego
Garcia's deportation. We'll get into the kerfuffle over at the Pentagon.
Pete hegg Seth's still SEC deaf today, going to be
SEC deaf going forward as well as we knew media
trying an op not successful against him, but something's going
(16:31):
on over there. But first up, Clay, just to give
you a quick a scorching take, because I liked I
like to do scorching takes. Clay says that Jill Biden,
as we're all now looking at the Democrats scrambling for
cover on the on the giant and absurd lie that
Joe Biden was of sound mind not just to run
for reelection, but for the final year of his presidency. Really,
(16:52):
I would argue the final two or three years. But
they're all scrambling for cover. Jill Biden, Clay says, is
the chief villain. I just want to offer this different
take on it, Jill Biden. Yes, in the view of
the American people and her responsibility as a citizen, what
she did is outrageous. However, Clay, she had to make
sure that he stayed in the saddle long enough to
(17:13):
give the Biden family all their pardons to negotiate an
exit to You know, I think that she may have
known that things were all crashing down around her and
she had to keep the charade going as long as
possible for her immediate family, for her son, her son Hunter,
and for the rest of the crew. That's my take
(17:34):
on this. I think she knew and was scrambling. Oh,
this is a fun this is a fun topic. I'm
going to come back and tell you why she is
the most heinous person in America. But I don't think
your defense of her is an awful one. So that
is so generous of you. Yeah, thank you, You're welcome.
Clay's in a generous mood today. Steak dinners are fantastic.
(17:56):
You know, my family's coming down, Grandma and Grandpa Sex
and they want to meet the guy. So I'm planning
a big steak dinner this weekend and it's catered basically
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program, all Right,
Buck made a defense of Joe Biden as hey, she
knew things were coming unraveled, and she wanted to make
sure the family at large was taken care of, whether
it's Hunter's pardon, whether it's the pardon for Joe Biden's brother,
whether it's the pardons for Biden corrupt family, inc.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I don't disagree with that defense.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
My argument, though, would be all of that could have
happened even if Joe did not have to run for reelection.
So to me, Jill better than anyone, had to see
Joe behind closed doors, when he wasn't shot up with drugs,
when he wasn't at his best ability to remember he
(19:49):
was bad in public, But that was probably the best
version of Joe they could put forward. Imagine all the
things that she saw, as any spouse would. That showed
how rapidly Joe was declining. And unfortunately, I know some
of you have probably had to go through this. It's
(20:10):
usually the spouse that recognizes dementia before anybody else does,
because the spouse, either the husband or the wife, is
interacting far more than anybody else would be, and so
they pick up on these signals before anybody else would,
and sometimes they will help to cover because they don't
(20:31):
want to admit what they're seeing. But to me, Jill, certainly,
by twenty twenty two, I think it was reckless for
them to run Joe, and I think Joe Biden's mental
and physical decline would have revealed itself buck if COVID
hadn't happened, because I don't think they would have been
able to hide him. And I think on the campaign
(20:54):
trail he would have given away his decline in a
way that he didn't when they were having him in
the basement campaign.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Look, I don't want us to go too deep into
into bidenology at this phase.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He's a complete political irrelevancy.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And you know, we got some big things that Trump
is handling right now in this moment, I would just say,
I think that Jill saw this whole thing as the
family business extended through old man Biden, and wanted to
maximize the leverage for him and the family going forward. Clay,
I think if they had, if she had talked about
it too early, there would have been pressure on him
(21:31):
to step down. That's the other part of this, right
there would have been press and pressure to step down
and not do the part in be you know, think
about it, right, let's say it's January twenty twenty four.
Finally she says, look, you know Joe Biden is and
that would have been late, but not super late as
what they did. If my husband is having you know,
health issues whatever, well if he's not, if he's not
(21:54):
healthy enough in January to run, he's not healthy enough
to stay as president, he gets pressure to step Downamala
as sends, then they'd say, well hold on, you will
totally hurt Kamala's chances if the corruption of the Biden
family is front loaded into the election cycle. So I'm
just I'm just saying, look, is Jill ruthless and awful? Absolutely?
(22:14):
Was she play in the hand that she was dealt
pretty reasonably? I don't know a little. I sound like
the Biden family lawyer over here, but I think I
can see how this went down.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I had this conversation with my wife, and I believe
I've said it on the.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Radio before, Yeah, that you wouldn't that she wouldn't let
you go and make a total jackass of yourself. Knowing
Laura pretty well, I think that is one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
If you start, I told her, if you start to
recognize that, given the job that we have and given
the jobs when we're talking in public, if you start
to recognize behind the scenes that I am losing it,
you need to be the person who says, hey, we're
starting to dial back what we're doing publicly.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Laura actually made my wife a really interesting point that
I think could actually work towards your Biden.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Family defense argument. Here.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Her defense of Jill was, she knows how bad he is,
but she has bought into the idea that Trump will
destroy the country, and so even though her husband's brain
was scrambled eggs, she was thinking to herself, for the
benefit of the country. I think this is maybe how
she rationalized it. I have to prop up Joe because
(23:30):
Trump is so awful. But then Buck the debate happened,
and then I think she shifted her anger from Trump
is going to destroy the country to I hate everyone
that's coming after my husband, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, probably
Kamala because we've seen the frosty relationships between the two
(23:53):
of them, and it seems like a lot of times
the spouse is the one who is angrier. Joe Biden
can get over people being mean to him. Donald Trump
may be able to get over people meaning being mean
to him. It seems quite clear that they can. I
bet Malanya, and I bet Jill, and some of these
political spouses don't get over it anywhere near as well.
(24:17):
And they're actually the ones that want to gut the
adversaries metaphorically speaking, I'm sure, I'm sure you have this
in your own life, and I'm sure many of the
guys listening to this the same thing. I can walk
off even a cheap shot, far more easily than my
wife will walk off somebody else's cheap shot of me
(24:39):
of me right, same thing with you right in media
that Laura would I would not want them to be
in the same room with her because of things.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's a different deal.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like you and I and I might be like, look,
you know whatever, but like the wife in the background
is like, oh, I've got your number, like they don't.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
It's the same thing here.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And so I think what happened was her anger at
Trump pivoted to her anger at the Democrat Party because
she thought they were more disloyal to him than even
Trump was. And Buck when you read those pictures, she
looked pretty happy when Trump came to visit the White House.
I'm sorry she didn't look like somebody who felt as
(25:15):
if she were turning over the keys to the mansion
to Adolf Hitler. I think, I really do. She wore
the red dress on election Day.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, that was after Biden had been completely humiliated, and
in her mind, I think, be great. I also think
that again, I'm not the consolieri of the Biden family.
I'm just trying to look at it from their side
of the poker table. You know, a little devil, a
little Biden devil's advocate here. I think Clay that she
gets to walk away from this whole thing now and say,
(25:46):
Kamala completely screwed the whole thing up. You shouldn't have
bailed on my Joe. He could have taken it across
the finish line. And again, Biden's record, want to know,
against Trump, people can say that's insane, that's in whatever
that is actually the historical record, and Jill I think
sees it that way too. At least that's the narrat Look,
(26:06):
people tell themselves whatever they want to believe.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
We all need our and they will argue.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And I think this is going to be argued for
years and years to come that the Biden people will argue,
I think more so in the years to come than
they even are now. Hey, picking Kamala was a disaster.
We could have dragged Joe across the finish line. Yes,
that will be the argument. People get you and I
can sit here and argue about that as we have before.
(26:32):
But there will certainly be a Biden camp that says
that because you can't you can't prove otherwise. And we
know Kamala got just Kama got crushed. By the way,
I don't believe any of the stuff that says Kamala
they want her to run again. You know, we can
mark this down, mark this down, buck prediction. All right,
there's no way, no way Kamala is going to be
their nominee the next time around. But I know that's
(26:54):
a ways out. So here's the other thing. I don't
hear anybody defending eighty one million votes anymore. Have you
noticed how that story just kind of vanished? And I mean,
I'm just finished the new book that I was writing.
When you go look at the eighty one million votes
in the context of the last ten years, twelve years
(27:14):
of American politics.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
There is no way on the plant.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Not even Democrats now are looking around like Joe Biden
getting eighty one million votes is the craziest. Now, look
the rig job COVID. Did they maximize every possible way
to get ballots? And yes, did they harvest like crazy?
But there's no way buck eighty one million votes ever happened.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm gonna bring us.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I'm gonna bring us now clay into present day, okay
with Donald Trump this morning, the following, and you could
take this and run with it. How can Biden let
millions of criminals into our country totally unchecked and unvetted,
with no legal authority to do so? Yet I in
order to make up for this assault to our nation
and expected to go through a lengthy legal process separately
(28:02):
for each and every criminal alien as usual, two different
standards only leading to complete and total destruction of the USA.
And then I love it in all caps, make America
great again. I think this is the fundamental question that
faces the country right now, more so even than the
tariffs and the economy stuff, which I know is getting
a bit of focus again, because you know, the market
(28:23):
is sea sawing down yesterday up today. Put that aside
for a moment. We'll get back to it. Clay, What
does it mean if, even when you have a Republican administration,
the Democrats can flood the country and there's no way
to unflood it, which is really essentially what the courts
are going to be deciding here, or at least that's
what the courts are aligning themselves up for. I don't
(28:46):
know what to tell people. I don't know what the
answer is. If Trump can't actually do the deportations of
the I'm talking just Biden arrivals now, not talking about
you know, someone's abuela who's been here since nineteen ninety two.
I'm talking about the people that just arrived illegally as
part of this game. We could talk about that other
thing later if Biden, I mean, if Trump can't get
(29:07):
rid of them, what do we do? We have a
country really that is worthy of the name of What
is this place?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I mean, this is what I said yesterday, and I
probably should just make it simple. It's a math problem.
You cannot deport right now. We're doing around three hundred
and fifty thousand people a year. If that is the
rate by which we will deport illegal immigrants just in
the four years that Biden let ten million plus in,
(29:35):
it will take us about thirty years to get those
people out. That's presuming that there's not going to be
some other Democrat who opens the borders wide open again.
That was their gamble. Their gamble was once these people
get here, they're never going home, and eventually there's going
to have to be a solution for them. They're playing
a game that's generational in nature, and Trump is trying
(29:58):
to fight back against it, and the state and that
he's allowed to fight with are completely different than the
ones that Biden was allowed to put in place, which
is why why the Abrallo Garcia story is interesting.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's not really about him. It's about what are the
protocols and processes by which Trump can accelerate the deportation
from people inside the country, not rejecting people at the
southern border, which he is satisfied and now solved that problem.
The next equation here is how do you get the
ten million plus in the last four years out and
to say nothing of what was the number I gave
(30:30):
you twenty five million and you came up with a
number of thirty million. We don't even know what the
total number of illegals living in the country right now
actually is.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You know, it's interesting. I just told my brother today.
I said, we've got a great new sponsor on the shows.
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He goes, I've been a USCCA member for years.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Buck, I don't even realize.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
He goes, look, if you're if you're gonna be concealed
carrying as much as you try to make sure.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You wanted to make sure he was covered, and I
want to make sure about this everything.
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Speaker 2 (31:15):
Me laughed at me. He's like, I've been covered by
USCCA for years. He's like, you should have asked me
about this before. I said, well, you know, they're I
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Mason has been a us CCM member for for years
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I'm a member now because now I realize I've only
been in Florida for a couple of years, so I
haven't been able to conceal carry for very long. And
(31:36):
obviously you can't just do that in New York and
get arrested. So USCCA, though, is something you got to
have if you're a gun owner, because remember, it's not
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Speaker 3 (34:10):
Signan Travis.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
I don't know what the fun the number is right now,
but I will tell you this, My wife is so
ready for these books to be out of my garage
that when they are gone, she is going to throw
a party. I think I don't know what the exact
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but you need to get them because we're in the
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think she's a book burner, but I think she would
gladly burn these books. She wants them out of the
Travis house, and so you need to get them. I'm
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so they are rapidly dwindling. I see the stack in
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there's not a lot of them left.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Let's take some calls here and some talkbacks. Laura in
Pennsylvania has a story to share.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
What's up, Laura him getting back to talking about the
ridiculousness of people claiming they didn't see the decline of Biden.
It was five years ago when my child was twelve
years old, and we're listening to either debate or speech,
(35:16):
and Joe Biden was up there and her not even
paying attention. Twelve years old knows nothing about politics. She
stops and she says, Mom, why does she sound like
pop Hoop? I said, honey, because you like pop pop.
There's a twelve year old child who was able to
(35:37):
see all the signs, the blank stairs, the rise and
anger quickly. And you're telling me that grown adults. I
didn't see this years ago. And for Joe Biden to
allow that to happen, and the rapid decline, knowing all
(35:59):
the stress, everything, I find it despicable because I did everything.
I did everything in my power to protect my father
from anything, anything and everything. And I just find it
sick named that she stood by and watched it happen.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Laura, thank you so much for calling in Clay And
it is true. I even said the same thing on
the air that the Biden some of the stuff reminded
me of my maternal grandfather, who's a great American, a patriot,
a war you know, a guy who was a veteran,
but when he got to a certain age, you could
just see it. We all saw it with Biden. Everyone
a twelve year old that Laura just talked about, her
daughter saw it. If he hadn't debated on June twenty seventh,
(36:42):
they would have legitimately tried to get him re elected,
one which is wild to even think about. Keep rolling here,
we get some great guests for you.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
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