May 3, 2025 • 36 mins
In hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts kick off the hour by addressing the latest political developments, including the contentious Trump versus ABC News interview. The conversation highlights Trump's criticism of the legacy media, particularly ABC, for not covering President Biden's perceived senility. This segment emphasizes Trump's direct and confrontational style, which resonates with his supporters.
The hosts then shift to discussing House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries' directive to his caucus to avoid trips to El Salvador, in light of the Kilmar Abrego Garcia story. This narrative explores the political fallout and the implications for the Democratic Party as more details about Garcia's background emerge.
Another significant topic covered is the New York Times' report on the trend of wearing cross necklaces, which the hosts find amusing given the long-standing popularity of this accessory. They also touch on the broader cultural implications of media coverage on such trends.
The show continues with a critique of Jake Tapper and the media's handling of various political narratives. The hosts argue for the importance of holding media figures accountable and discuss the potential impact of inviting Tapper onto their show for a direct confrontation.
Additionally, the discussion includes a segment on the effectiveness of Trump's policies, particularly regarding border security. The hosts praise the administration's success in significantly reducing illegal immigration and emphasize the importance of maintaining strict border controls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, well, come in.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are having a great Wednesday wherever you may be
across the country. Encourage you to go download the podcasts.
Make sure you don't miss a moment. We've got a
fun show headed your way. Trump versus ABC. We're going
to have some fun breaking that down for you. I
don't know if you've seen this report yet, Buck, but
I definitely love it. House Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries has
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supposedly told his entire caucus no more trips to El Salvador.
As the Abrao Garcia story has begun to blow up
in Democrats faces, more and more details coming out about
how crazy that story is. The New York Times has
discovered a brand new hot trend that they had no
(00:49):
idea what was going on. People, Buck are wearing cross necklaces,
and The New York Times has a style section expos
A diving into this new hot trend which has existed
for hundreds of years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And I was gonna some of these people Christians good health.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just I think sometimes when I see the stories,
like the New York Times had a story recently, I
don't know if you saw it, Buck, where it said
like Beyonce makes the cowboy hat matter, and I was like, Oh,
that's really interesting, because I've known the cowboy hat being
pretty popular for a long time. I don't know that
I saw Beyonce as the person who made the cowboy
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hat relevant. But these are the kinds of things that
sometimes you will read if you do as I do,
start your day every morning by seeing what the New
York Times has put out there. Okay, we got a
bunch of different stories to dive into. But I thought
vintage Trump last night, as the ABC News one hundred
(01:50):
day interview just ricocheted around the internet. I saw you
were sharing parts of it, Buck, I saw it. This
is Terry Moran, I believe is his name, and Trump
really kind of had had fun with the fact that
nobody really knows who this guy is several different times.
But I thought, really, the one that was the punchiest
(02:13):
and echoed the most around the country was when he
called out ABC as being a part of the legacy
media cabal that refused to cover Joe Biden's sinility. Here
is cut three. This has gone megaviral.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence? No, I think it's gone
way up, and I think we're respected country again.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We were left at all over the world. We had
a president that couldn't walk.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Up a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight
of stairs, couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We
had a president that was grossly incompetent.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You knew it.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
All right, thank you. By the way, ABC is one
of the worst.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I have to be honest, okay, right to his face,
I mean, he nailed it. And people say, okay, why
is this a story now? Well, we just had the
White House Correspondence dinner where all of the media are
basically trying to self flagellate now and say, oh, how
could we have known? How could we have missed a
story like this? And Jake Tapper's got a book that's
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coming out suddenly talking about how awful Biden is. Did
you see the audience response on that was do not
have that guy on my sacred airwaves. So we got
we got to talk about this, we got to do
an offense. We should have I think we should have
him on because the number one thing that actually I
think echoes. So I appreciate the fact that people who
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listen on a regular Just to be clear, you're saying
you want to put the brass knuckles on Clay. This
is shocking everybody in the audience. Yes, yeah, Well look,
I think that what I see echoing on a regular
basis across the Information super Highway aka the Internet and
on all this social media platforms is holding people accountable
(04:03):
actually matters, and there's a desperate desire for it. And
so I think we should have Jake Tapper on and
hold him accountable for the lies that he has helped
to spread while lecturing everyone about the truth that he
is telling.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And he's very slippery.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's gonna come on, he's gonna start dropping some knowledge
about some SEC teams.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He's gonna say, you.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Know, Clay, I love your analysis on the Falls, and
you know, I'm telling you, man, I don't think Tapper
knows anything about college football. Your your point. He'll pretend,
oh yeah, but I I see. But that's worse than
just being honest and acknowledging that you don't have any
knowledge of a subject. That all right, So I think
they need to be hoisted on their proverbial petard. And
(04:51):
here's the other thing. It will echo beyond the audience
of this show. This show is a great platform. We
got a big audience. We have creciate all of you
who listen every single day. But I think immensely now
about how do you reach beyond the choir? Right, The
choir's great, and you know, if you are in a church,
(05:15):
typically choir.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Is going to show up.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
They're going to stand behind the minister, They're going to
support them. They are the you know, and you're preach
into the choir in the proverbial connotation there. But in
order to really change the world or change the nation,
you have to reach sometimes outside of the congregation and
connect with people who may not know that you are
(05:38):
existing on a day to day basis. And what I see,
and I'll give him credit Scott Jennings on CNN, he
is connecting, I think, with an audience that otherwise would
not be hearing the arguments that are made by a
Republican and he's actually dismantling arguments that are made by
(05:59):
the left. And I think that's incredibly valuable. Look, I
just came off Harris Faulkner's show. I'm on Fox News
pretty much every day. You're on Fox News a lot.
It's by far the biggest audience out there, and it
has tremendous impact. But if you are someone who watches
MSNBC or CNN, you oftentimes have no idea the arguments
that we would make. And everybody out there listening to us,
(06:22):
because so much of popular culture is steeped in the left,
we actually know the arguments that the left makes. I
think our arguments are better, and it's why I've come
back a bunch of times buck to the debate between
Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis that Sean Hamdy hosted, and
Ron DeSantis obliterated Gavin Newsom, and I think it was
(06:46):
because Gavin Newsom is not used to actually being held accountable,
because usually he's got interviewers who are lifting him up
and parading him as if he is a paragon of
virtue because they are of the left, and he was
not prepared for the arguments that he saw from DeSantis,
and I frankly don't think that Jake Tapper would be
(07:06):
prepared for us. And I think the collision of ideas
and arguments is actually what propels itself throughout the larger
media ecosystem and gets an out there to change hearts
and minds, like you going on, Bill Maher. Yes, the
crowd didn't like you, but I bet there were a
couple of people out there who saw your arguments and
they were like, Hey, this guy, I actually think he
(07:28):
might be correct, and they hadn't been exposed to what
you would argue. I think that's incredibly valuable. So that's
that's my argument for how you win is going into
places where people might not even be aware of the
arguments that you would make. Well after this, he's going
to be creeping into your DMS telling you let's go.
You know here, we have to we have to have
(07:48):
him on, I suppose, so I wonder if it'll be him.
I'll take the I'll take the blame. Anybody who's angry
Buck is Buck is not excited about it. I think
it's a I think it's a Donnie Brook. We should
set up. He likes the Eagles, the football. He's gonna
he's gonna try to pull the whole football fan thing
with you.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But all right, all right, that's fine, that's fine. It
looks like we'll get a throat on going with that.
What doesn't work is trying to steamroll Trump in.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
An interview for ABC News, That's for sure that did
not go as planned for this guy, Terry Moran, did
we already play with Trump? It's like, tells him he's
not being he's not being very nice. Uh no, we
haven't played that yet. I don't trust you with that
cut seven? Yeah, I think, well, yeah, play play the cuts.
(08:34):
He was, he was on fire with this stuff. Play
cut seven.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He's think Vladimir Putin wants piece. I think he does, Yes,
I think it does. I think missiles. I think he
really his his.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Dream was to take over the whole country. I think
because of me, he's not gonna do that. Do you
trust him? I think, do you trust him? I don't
trust you. I don't trust I don't trust a lot
of people. I don't trust you.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Look at you. You're coming all shooting.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
For bear, You're so happy to do the you I am,
and then you start hitting me with fake questions. He
started telling me that a guy whose hand is covered
with the tattoo doesn't have the tattoo.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
You know, I mean, you're being dishonest.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
No, I'm not LEMOI I'm nuts, so I trust I
don't trust.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
A lot of people, but I do think this.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I think that he, let's say, he respects me, and
I believe because in me, he's not going to take
over the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And then this turned into the big dispute about the
MS thirteen which you heard him referencing there Buck, which
is cut one, And I think, well, just listen and
then we'll explain what we think is going on here.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Here's cut one's.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Murderous criminals in this country. We have to get him out,
and we're doing it, Violet. And you don't pick out
one man. But even the man that you picked out,
he's got a key, said he wasn't a member of
a gang.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS.
There there's a dispute.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, he had MS thirteen
on his knus.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We had some tattoos that are interpreted that way. But
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Wait a minute, I'll tear it Terry, Terry, he did
not have the letter M S one.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It says M S one three.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That was photoshop, So let me do his photoshop, Terry.
That Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime.
You know you're doing the interview. I picked you because
frankly I never heard of you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I picked you, Terry, but you're not being very nice.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
He had MS thirteen. Tech we'll agree to disagree. I
want to rive on to something else, Terry. Do you
want me to show you the picture. I saw the picture.
We'll do the photoshop. Here we go. Here, we got photoshop.
But don't look at his hand, as he.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm not an expert on them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I want to turn to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I want to get to No, he had MS as
clear as you can be, not interpreted.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
This is why people no longer believe well the.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
News because in El Salvador they aren't there.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
But let's just go they aren't there when he's in
the photo.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
There now right, No, but they're in your picture, Terry Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Sir, he's got MS thirteen on his knuckles. All right,
we'll take a look. Such a service. We'll take a look.
She'd just say, yes he does, and you know, go
on to something else.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
All right.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So I think the dispute here Buck is Moran is saying, hey,
you are.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But they put the photo out right and it shows
the tattoos, which are signposts cultural signposts according to people
who know gangs to represent MS thirteen. And then above
the photo they showed you, hey, this is the this
is what the M stands for, this is what the
s this is what the thirteen. And you correct me
(11:41):
if I'm wrong here, Buck, But I think what they're
arguing about is actually an interpretation that Trump believes. He's
not willing to acknowledge that that stands for MS thirteen.
And then Moran is trying to say, no, you wrote
those letters above it, and it's just like one big cluster. Well, also,
they're really willing to go to the mat for this guy,
(12:02):
aren't y right? I mean they're that now all of
a sudden, every every coincidence must be given in such
a or rather must be accepted in such a way
that there's a little more doubt cast on whether this guy.
When you look at this guy's record, he's a gang member. Okay,
this is multiple judges have found that he's a gang member.
In the past, he's been found in the company of
(12:23):
gang How many MS thirteen gang members. Have you ever
been found in the company of Clay I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Zero. I have a feeling it's zero for you too,
so far as I know, I think it's zero. Yes,
good point.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'd be All of these coincidences are being cited in
order to undermine Trump on this issue. And I also
would just say this, I don't care, right this is
this guy's not an American, He's gone, He's not a
problem anymore. I don't want to hear about it. I mean,
I know why they're doing it. I'm not oblivious to
(12:54):
the rationale behind this as an assault on Trump. Oh,
the rule of law and all this other stuff. But
I think that what they failed to recognize is one
in the mood of the country about illegal immigration and
particularly illegal immigrant gang members. And two, we cannot have
a system where the law is not enforced and is
refused to be enforced when it comes to illegal entry
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and staying here illegally. But then every legal statute, everything
imaginable has to be given in terms of process to
prevent the deportation of individuals. If that's the case, we
don't have a country anymore. We're just pretending and That's
where I am on this. I think a lot of
people are on this too. I don't really care. He's
not supposed to be here, he's gone. He's not an American,
not our problem. And we'll come back and talk about
(13:40):
this in a little bit. But there is a report
that House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies it must be polling
really really bad. As we told you it was, Hey,
go figure a gangland human trafficking wife beating non American
illegal immigrant in El Salvador and trying to make him
(14:00):
the face of unfair deportations has blown up in Democrat
party faces, such that their House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies
is telling people stop with the l Salvador visits.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean told ja this was going to poll poorly.
Of course, I know they'll say this is what aboutism.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This is actually about understanding whether there's a principle at
work here or not. Did a single one of these
Democrats who claim to care so much about due process
even raise a question about the solitary confinement and eighteen
month pre trial imprisonment of nonviolent January sixth defendants who
are Americans, not one so they can cry about this
(14:41):
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
Welcome back the end of Clay and Buck. So Trump
sat down with ABC's Terry Moran. It was very entertaining.
Trump was not in the mood to be trifled with.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
We are spoiled for how entertaining Donald Trump is in
political interviews. It will never, I think, be the same
for us in the post Trump presidency era. But let's
enjoy it while we have it, and while we have him.
Here is Donald Trump. This is cut three. He's taking
them a task for the Joe Biden dementia cover up
play it.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence? No, I think it's gone
way up, and I think we're respected country again.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
We were left at all over the world.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
We had a president that couldn't walk up a flight
of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of couldn't walk.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Across the stage without falling. We had a president that
was grossly and confident. You knew it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst, I
have to be honest, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah. So anyway, it's so good that I wanted everyone
to hear it again. Yeah. I mean, he's just.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Going going off on them and he's not playing any games. Clay, No,
And I understand some people have the opinion, oh, why
is he doing these interviews? Why does he do contentious interviews?
I think it's a little bit of what I said.
For the reason to have Jake taperon, because Trump is
aware that you can't just do Fox News. You can't
(17:42):
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to go into the lions den and actually confront them
face to face and call them out on their lives.
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(19:03):
everybody not to travel to El Salvador. There now is
a report that Hakeem Jeffries is denying that he is
saying that. So I guess the best way to test
it will be to find out do Democrat trips to
El Salvador continue. I would make the I would make
(19:23):
the argument because I think it's quite clear that there
is no benefit at all to making a Brao Garcia
the focal point of the anti Trump deportation process. And
more details continue to come out, Buck, you were just
talking about the evidence that he is a member of
(19:45):
MS thirteen. Over the last twenty four hours, a report
came out that the ex husband of a Brao Garcia's
current wife had five failed a circuit court in Prince
George's County, Maryland, report saying that he did not want
(20:08):
his kids because two, I guess of the kids that
were in that household are fathered by another individual to
be around a Breo Garcia because he was a gang
banger and involved in El Salvadoran gangs. This is back
in two thousand and eighteen, he said on the court
(20:30):
filing page.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I mean, as more evidence continues to come out that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He knows that she is in danger and that his
kids are in danger because this guy is a gang member.
He said, I'm afraid of my kids living in danger
because she is dating a gang member. This was before
she married this guy. So to your point, Buck, the
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evidence just continues to pile up of what a bad
dude this guy is, oftentimes in official court filings because
remember later this woman who would marry a Breo Garcia
would file a attempt to get a restraining order because she
said that he was beating her up. And there are
reports that in Tennessee, my home state, state highway patrol
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pulled over a Breo Garcia in the car of a
known human trafficker, that is, the registered vehicle of a
known human trafficker, with seven other individuals who did not
have IDs, and it appeared that he was human trafficking them.
So we'll see whether Democrats continue to take a trip
to El Salvador. But I think that Hakim Jeffries has
(21:45):
likely seen that this is a very negative story for Democrats,
that they picked the wrong front facing opposition figure to
this policy, and that it is a disaster as well.
We've met talked about this yesterday, Bock. But I do
want this to be out there, southern border totally closed.
(22:07):
This was Trump with Moran on ABC News. Cut five.
The biggest accomplishment of the first hundred days of Trump's
presidency is we have a more secure southern border. Maybe
in the history of the United States, it has never
been this secure. Here is Trump saying it's totally closed down.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Cut five.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I think maybe the border is the most significant because
our country.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Was really going bad.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as
you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've
heard a lot of people say at prisons, mental institutions,
gang members, murderers, We had many murders eleven eight hundred
and eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
They think some murdered more than one person.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
So you had murderers coming in, You had everybody coming in,
and not just South America, from all over the world
that were emptying their prisons into our country.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And now it's totally closed down.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
And you've seen just yesterday they announced ninety nine point
nine percent.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Nobody thought that could happen. Then it happened quickly.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, So this is going on, and Democrats, in addition
to the l Salvador mess, they have decided that they're
going to impeach Trump. And I don't know about you, Buck,
I don't think we talked about it very much. This
guy who tried to impeach him, Shri Thunadar, who is
a Michigan Democrat Rep. I didn't think this video was
real of him talking about the fact that he was
(23:25):
going to try and impeach the president of the United States.
I thought it was some sort of Saturday Night Live skit.
It is in fact real. And sometimes it's not only
that Trump is making the right decisions, it's that he
seems to be able to provoke people who disagree with
him to behave in such an outlandish fashion that they
(23:47):
are basically giving contributions to Trump because he's got the
best possible foes.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, you can also see that Democrats are recognizing that
some of their central lines of attack.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Are not resonating the way that they would have assumed.
I think they would.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
A part of this is the attacks are not within
the mood or they're not along the lines of what
the American people particularly want to focus on right now.
I think beyond that, I also think that the loss
of credibility from the largest anti Trump news organizations in.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Big part because here's what I think.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I somehow think that the COVID stuff is not as
damaging to the media's credibility, and I disagree with this perception,
but I think this is what has happened. I think
the Biden dementia cover up was like the last nail
in the coffin for what we formerly call the mainstream
media or the MSM MSM, the Democrat A line corporate media.
(24:49):
I think the dementia cover up is actually which is
part of why they're trying to fight on this issue
now or rewrited or come up with some way to
get past it. Because if you you are a person
who is able to think for yourself, you would come
away saying, Okay, if they could lie about that, they
can lie about absolutely anything, and I'm not going to
(25:12):
take at face value their attacks on this administration anymore.
Maybe that's only five or ten percent of Americans who
are in that realm, but you know who, there's like
forty percent of us are pro Trump, like Trump right
all the time or pretty much all the time. Five
or ten percent I think are with Trump on a
lot of things, maybe not with them on everything. And
(25:33):
then maybe there's five or ten percent of people who
are truly independents who can swing either way. It's actually
I don't think I think I think it's less than
that number. But just roughly speaking, and Clay, I think
that they are not swayed by the New York Times
the Washington Post the same way anymore. And I think
that that's a big change. By the way they've got
this guy of Vermont, Judge Vermont, beautiful state. I used
(25:54):
to go to camp in Vermont. I love Vermont. I
don't know why it has to have communist politics. Lovely
is a fantastic state. Why have they It's a really
good question. How of all the states in America have
they lost their way the most? Well, it's the Bernie
Sanders effect. You have a lot of Libs from New
York who transplanted to Vermont. You know, they've had their
(26:16):
gun laws aren't as good as they used to be.
I think they've tied them up a little bit. But
they used to be very pro Second Amendment. It's a
very low crime state. But a lot of New Yorkers
and tri State area. People with liberal views have moved
to Vermont of the last thirty forty years. Anyway, it's
a beautiful state but has terrible politics, which is a shame.
(26:37):
But there's a judge there, no surprise, who has ordered
the release of Mosen Madawi. This is one of these
Columbia University pro Palestinian protest guys. He was here on
a green card and he is now in the process
or they're trying to deport him. And he was arrested
(26:57):
by federal agents at an immigrantation center in Vermont, and
the ACLU, of course is representing him, and the ACLU
doing its absolute best to tear down American society and
civilization and burn it all to the ground in the
name of selective civil rights. I might add, they don't
care about Christian civil rights like that. There are a
lot of people the ACLU doesn't care about at all,
(27:18):
but they're good at trying to burn our country down
and salt the earth beneath it. But Clay, once again,
here's somebody who when they try to drum drum up
a lot of sympathy for this guy. As he's now out,
you just go back and look at his role in
these protests, which were horrible. And let's remember not only
were these protests threatening people and breaking laws and violating
(27:40):
not just campus policy but but criminal code in some instances.
I mean, you can't menace people, you can't threaten to
hurt people.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It happened after October seventh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
This is this is the response of these lunatics on
these campuses after a mass casualty attack that had We
can't even go into how barbaric and awful it is.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We've talked about him many times on the show. I'm
supposed to be sympathetic for this guy. He was lucky
he was letting to America in the first place. He's
got to go. I just maybe I'm too confident that
the American people have seen enough now to recognize some
of the internal threats that we have because of our
immigration policy and the exploitation of it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I think we're there.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I think that people really believe, in generally speaking, what
Trump is doing. The birthright citizenship case that the Supreme
Court has agreed to take. I'm on record, I don't
think they're going to allow an executive order to change it.
But I think the rationale and ruling that they will
undertake will be important for how this conversation goes in
(28:48):
the future, because I can't get over the fact that
we are allowing illegals to come into the country and
then benefit from their illegal entry. And usually the most
basic rule of most aspects of our criminal justice system
(29:08):
is you aren't allowed to profit off of a crime,
and allowing kids of illegals to be citizens is directly
allowing someone to profit off of committing a crime. So
when you perpetrate a fraud, you shouldn't get the benefit
of the fraud going forward, and that is one of
the most essential and basic elements of the criminal code.
(29:32):
We have to rectify this. We have to have real
conversation about birthright citizenship, and it has to stop, has
to end, because I think that would go the furthest
to changing the incentive structure as it pertains to people
coming to this country illegally. Certainly, we need to keep
the southern border closed, and we need to deport people
(29:52):
violent felons, then eventually others who shouldn't be here. But
this is I think, to the essence of a country.
We have to stop this from occurring. I also think
that while the dementia cover up is the most egregious
that we have seen and that has had the greatest
effect on the national perception of our the large Democrat
(30:18):
media organization's clay the story that they told us for
four years roughly that Joe Biden was doing everything he could,
it was out of his hands to secure the border.
I mean, that was really the narrative. They were lying
their faces off about that all across New York Times,
Washington Posts, Seeing and et cetera, et cetera, all of them.
(30:40):
They were lying so much about it, and we now
know that because we've proven the lie right, We've tested
this out. So this is part of I think why
they're having such a hard time getting their feet underneath
them in opposition to the Trump administration, because the credibility
gap that they have created with people who are not
just cult members of a Democrat party. I don't know
(31:04):
how they come back from it. I'll be honest, Like,
how do they come back from it? They're going to
try out the same people that have lied about that stuff.
So anyway, this is how I see it playing out.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
We'll see if it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Continues in this vein, you know, Mother's Day maybe a
week and a half away, but last weekend sure felt
like it. At our house, my mom visited Carrie and
me to see her newest grandson, James Speed. Like the
attorney general under Lincoln. I cannot think of a better Clay.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I got a Civil War era name.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
By the way, you must be this must be high
five from that. It's absolutely, very, very impressive. Although I
would point out that this is actually an interesting angle.
Do you see where the argument is that we should
do away with the writ of habeas corpus like Lincoln
did during the Civil War in order to kick everybody
out of the country.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I have seen that. Yes, it's an interesting argument from
his attorney general.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
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Welcome back into Clay inn Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I've got some interesting talk to you about coming up
here in the next hour. But we've also got the
Trump Cabinet meeting which is going underway still. It is
really going for quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We will dive into some of that, and then Clay,
this is some analysis I want to share.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I like it when I can just lay it out
and we'll have a real time reaction from Clay. Did
you see the analysis of S and P five hundred
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we make these arguments to you because we're people who
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have what we're picking up out there in the in
the ether, and sure enough the data is THEI is
in retreat in a big way in corporate America. So
we will discuss that, and we'll also get into some
(34:49):
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Did you know that Vermont was originally called New Connecticut?
And I will tell you, even as somebody who lived
adjacent to New England, I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Were you aware of that? That's so I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I haven't spent that much time in New England, right,
I mean, I've been to New York City quite a lot.
But for anybody who is spent time in New York City,
it's not really very similar to the rest of the state,
certainly not Upper New York. And no I haven't. I
have very limited knowledge. Here's A good question for you, Buck,
as a person who grew up in the Northeast, and
(36:15):
I always think this is interesting. If the country had
been settled west to east, would anyone live in the Northeast.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Whoa WHOA settled down about it settled down? Now, you
could make it argue like seasons, Clay, some people like seasons.
You can make an argument that people would have never
left the West coast because they'd have been like, it's
perfect here, It's like the Garden of Eden and much
of it. But I would submit to you that if
we had settled the country west to east, the least
(36:44):
populated place in the entire United States would actually be
the Northeast.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'm throwing a challenge flag on this right away.
Oh, well, come in.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We are having a great Wednesday wherever you may be
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Make sure you don't miss a moment. We've got a
fun show headed your way. Trump versus ABC. We're going
to have some fun breaking that down for you. I
don't know if you've seen this report yet, Buck, but
I definitely love it. House Minority leader Hakeem Jeffries has
(00:26):
supposedly told his entire caucus no more trips to El Salvador.
As the Abrao Garcia story has begun to blow up
in Democrats faces, more and more details coming out about
how crazy that story is. The New York Times has
discovered a brand new hot trend that they had no
(00:49):
idea what was going on. People, Buck are wearing cross necklaces,
and The New York Times has a style section expos
A diving into this new hot trend which has existed
for hundreds of years.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And I was gonna some of these people Christians good health.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just I think sometimes when I see the stories,
like the New York Times had a story recently, I
don't know if you saw it, Buck, where it said
like Beyonce makes the cowboy hat matter, and I was like, Oh,
that's really interesting, because I've known the cowboy hat being
pretty popular for a long time. I don't know that
I saw Beyonce as the person who made the cowboy
(01:30):
hat relevant. But these are the kinds of things that
sometimes you will read if you do as I do,
start your day every morning by seeing what the New
York Times has put out there. Okay, we got a
bunch of different stories to dive into. But I thought
vintage Trump last night, as the ABC News one hundred
(01:50):
day interview just ricocheted around the internet. I saw you
were sharing parts of it, Buck, I saw it. This
is Terry Moran, I believe is his name, and Trump
really kind of had had fun with the fact that
nobody really knows who this guy is several different times.
But I thought, really, the one that was the punchiest
(02:13):
and echoed the most around the country was when he
called out ABC as being a part of the legacy
media cabal that refused to cover Joe Biden's sinility. Here
is cut three. This has gone megaviral.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence? No, I think it's gone
way up, and I think we're respected country again.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
We were left at all over the world. We had
a president that couldn't walk.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Up a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight
of stairs, couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We
had a president that was grossly incompetent.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You knew it.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
All right, thank you. By the way, ABC is one
of the worst.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I have to be honest, okay, right to his face,
I mean, he nailed it. And people say, okay, why
is this a story now? Well, we just had the
White House Correspondence dinner where all of the media are
basically trying to self flagellate now and say, oh, how
could we have known? How could we have missed a
story like this? And Jake Tapper's got a book that's
(03:19):
coming out suddenly talking about how awful Biden is. Did
you see the audience response on that was do not
have that guy on my sacred airwaves. So we got
we got to talk about this, we got to do
an offense. We should have I think we should have
him on because the number one thing that actually I
think echoes. So I appreciate the fact that people who
(03:42):
listen on a regular Just to be clear, you're saying
you want to put the brass knuckles on Clay. This
is shocking everybody in the audience. Yes, yeah, Well look,
I think that what I see echoing on a regular
basis across the Information super Highway aka the Internet and
on all this social media platforms is holding people accountable
(04:03):
actually matters, and there's a desperate desire for it. And
so I think we should have Jake Tapper on and
hold him accountable for the lies that he has helped
to spread while lecturing everyone about the truth that he
is telling.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And he's very slippery.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's gonna come on, he's gonna start dropping some knowledge
about some SEC teams.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
He's gonna say, you.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Know, Clay, I love your analysis on the Falls, and
you know, I'm telling you, man, I don't think Tapper
knows anything about college football. Your your point. He'll pretend,
oh yeah, but I I see. But that's worse than
just being honest and acknowledging that you don't have any
knowledge of a subject. That all right, So I think
they need to be hoisted on their proverbial petard. And
(04:51):
here's the other thing. It will echo beyond the audience
of this show. This show is a great platform. We
got a big audience. We have creciate all of you
who listen every single day. But I think immensely now
about how do you reach beyond the choir? Right, The
choir's great, and you know, if you are in a church,
(05:15):
typically choir.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Is going to show up.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
They're going to stand behind the minister, They're going to
support them. They are the you know, and you're preach
into the choir in the proverbial connotation there. But in
order to really change the world or change the nation,
you have to reach sometimes outside of the congregation and
connect with people who may not know that you are
(05:38):
existing on a day to day basis. And what I see,
and I'll give him credit Scott Jennings on CNN, he
is connecting, I think, with an audience that otherwise would
not be hearing the arguments that are made by a
Republican and he's actually dismantling arguments that are made by
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the left. And I think that's incredibly valuable. Look, I
just came off Harris Faulkner's show. I'm on Fox News
pretty much every day. You're on Fox News a lot.
It's by far the biggest audience out there, and it
has tremendous impact. But if you are someone who watches
MSNBC or CNN, you oftentimes have no idea the arguments
that we would make. And everybody out there listening to us,
(06:22):
because so much of popular culture is steeped in the left,
we actually know the arguments that the left makes. I
think our arguments are better, and it's why I've come
back a bunch of times buck to the debate between
Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis that Sean Hamdy hosted, and
Ron DeSantis obliterated Gavin Newsom, and I think it was
(06:46):
because Gavin Newsom is not used to actually being held accountable,
because usually he's got interviewers who are lifting him up
and parading him as if he is a paragon of
virtue because they are of the left, and he was
not prepared for the arguments that he saw from DeSantis,
and I frankly don't think that Jake Tapper would be
(07:06):
prepared for us. And I think the collision of ideas
and arguments is actually what propels itself throughout the larger
media ecosystem and gets an out there to change hearts
and minds, like you going on, Bill Maher. Yes, the
crowd didn't like you, but I bet there were a
couple of people out there who saw your arguments and
they were like, Hey, this guy, I actually think he
(07:28):
might be correct, and they hadn't been exposed to what
you would argue. I think that's incredibly valuable. So that's
that's my argument for how you win is going into
places where people might not even be aware of the
arguments that you would make. Well after this, he's going
to be creeping into your DMS telling you let's go.
You know here, we have to we have to have
(07:48):
him on, I suppose, so I wonder if it'll be him.
I'll take the I'll take the blame. Anybody who's angry
Buck is Buck is not excited about it. I think
it's a I think it's a Donnie Brook. We should
set up. He likes the Eagles, the football. He's gonna
he's gonna try to pull the whole football fan thing
with you.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But all right, all right, that's fine, that's fine. It
looks like we'll get a throat on going with that.
What doesn't work is trying to steamroll Trump in.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
An interview for ABC News, That's for sure that did
not go as planned for this guy, Terry Moran, did
we already play with Trump? It's like, tells him he's
not being he's not being very nice. Uh no, we
haven't played that yet. I don't trust you with that
cut seven? Yeah, I think, well, yeah, play play the cuts.
(08:34):
He was, he was on fire with this stuff. Play
cut seven.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He's think Vladimir Putin wants piece. I think he does, Yes,
I think it does. I think missiles. I think he
really his his.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Dream was to take over the whole country. I think
because of me, he's not gonna do that. Do you
trust him? I think, do you trust him? I don't
trust you. I don't trust I don't trust a lot
of people. I don't trust you.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Look at you. You're coming all shooting.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
For bear, You're so happy to do the you I am,
and then you start hitting me with fake questions. He
started telling me that a guy whose hand is covered
with the tattoo doesn't have the tattoo.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
You know, I mean, you're being dishonest.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
No, I'm not LEMOI I'm nuts, so I trust I
don't trust.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
A lot of people, but I do think this.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
I think that he, let's say, he respects me, and
I believe because in me, he's not going to take
over the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And then this turned into the big dispute about the
MS thirteen which you heard him referencing there Buck, which
is cut one, And I think, well, just listen and
then we'll explain what we think is going on here.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Here's cut one's.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Murderous criminals in this country. We have to get him out,
and we're doing it, Violet. And you don't pick out
one man. But even the man that you picked out,
he's got a key, said he wasn't a member of
a gang.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS.
There there's a dispute.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, he had MS thirteen
on his knus.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We had some tattoos that are interpreted that way. But
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Wait a minute, I'll tear it Terry, Terry, he did
not have the letter M S one.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It says M S one three.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That was photoshop, So let me do his photoshop, Terry.
That Hey, they're giving you the big break of a lifetime.
You know you're doing the interview. I picked you because
frankly I never heard of you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I picked you, Terry, but you're not being very nice.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
He had MS thirteen. Tech we'll agree to disagree. I
want to rive on to something else, Terry. Do you
want me to show you the picture. I saw the picture.
We'll do the photoshop. Here we go. Here, we got photoshop.
But don't look at his hand, as he.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Did have tattoos that can be interpreted that way.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm not an expert on them.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I want to turn to Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I want to get to No, he had MS as
clear as you can be, not interpreted.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
This is why people no longer believe well the.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
News because in El Salvador they aren't there.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
But let's just go they aren't there when he's in
the photo.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
There now right, No, but they're in your picture, Terry Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Sir, he's got MS thirteen on his knuckles. All right,
we'll take a look. Such a service. We'll take a look.
She'd just say, yes he does, and you know, go
on to something else.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
All right.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So I think the dispute here Buck is Moran is saying, hey,
you are.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But they put the photo out right and it shows
the tattoos, which are signposts cultural signposts according to people
who know gangs to represent MS thirteen. And then above
the photo they showed you, hey, this is the this
is what the M stands for, this is what the
s this is what the thirteen. And you correct me
(11:41):
if I'm wrong here, Buck, But I think what they're
arguing about is actually an interpretation that Trump believes. He's
not willing to acknowledge that that stands for MS thirteen.
And then Moran is trying to say, no, you wrote
those letters above it, and it's just like one big cluster. Well, also,
they're really willing to go to the mat for this guy,
(12:02):
aren't y right? I mean they're that now all of
a sudden, every every coincidence must be given in such
a or rather must be accepted in such a way
that there's a little more doubt cast on whether this guy.
When you look at this guy's record, he's a gang member. Okay,
this is multiple judges have found that he's a gang member.
In the past, he's been found in the company of
(12:23):
gang How many MS thirteen gang members. Have you ever
been found in the company of Clay I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Zero. I have a feeling it's zero for you too,
so far as I know, I think it's zero. Yes,
good point.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I'd be All of these coincidences are being cited in
order to undermine Trump on this issue. And I also
would just say this, I don't care, right this is
this guy's not an American, He's gone, He's not a
problem anymore. I don't want to hear about it. I mean,
I know why they're doing it. I'm not oblivious to
(12:54):
the rationale behind this as an assault on Trump. Oh,
the rule of law and all this other stuff. But
I think that what they failed to recognize is one
in the mood of the country about illegal immigration and
particularly illegal immigrant gang members. And two, we cannot have
a system where the law is not enforced and is
refused to be enforced when it comes to illegal entry
(13:17):
and staying here illegally. But then every legal statute, everything
imaginable has to be given in terms of process to
prevent the deportation of individuals. If that's the case, we
don't have a country anymore. We're just pretending and That's
where I am on this. I think a lot of
people are on this too. I don't really care. He's
not supposed to be here, he's gone. He's not an American,
not our problem. And we'll come back and talk about
(13:40):
this in a little bit. But there is a report
that House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies it must be polling
really really bad. As we told you it was, Hey,
go figure a gangland human trafficking wife beating non American
illegal immigrant in El Salvador and trying to make him
(14:00):
the face of unfair deportations has blown up in Democrat
party faces, such that their House Minority Leader Hakim Jefferies
is telling people stop with the l Salvador visits.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean told ja this was going to poll poorly.
Of course, I know they'll say this is what aboutism.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
This is actually about understanding whether there's a principle at
work here or not. Did a single one of these
Democrats who claim to care so much about due process
even raise a question about the solitary confinement and eighteen
month pre trial imprisonment of nonviolent January sixth defendants who
are Americans, not one so they can cry about this
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Speaker 1 (16:17):
Welcome back the end of Clay and Buck. So Trump
sat down with ABC's Terry Moran. It was very entertaining.
Trump was not in the mood to be trifled with.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
We are spoiled for how entertaining Donald Trump is in
political interviews. It will never, I think, be the same
for us in the post Trump presidency era. But let's
enjoy it while we have it, and while we have him.
Here is Donald Trump. This is cut three. He's taking
them a task for the Joe Biden dementia cover up
play it.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Do you think the reputation in the United States has
gone down under your presidence? No, I think it's gone
way up, and I think we're respected country again.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
We were left at all over the world.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
We had a president that couldn't walk up a flight
of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight of couldn't walk.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Across the stage without falling. We had a president that
was grossly and confident. You knew it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I knew it, and everybody knew it, but you guys
didn't want to write it because you're fake news.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
By the way, ABC is one of the worst, I
have to be honest, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah. So anyway, it's so good that I wanted everyone
to hear it again. Yeah. I mean, he's just.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Going going off on them and he's not playing any games. Clay, No,
And I understand some people have the opinion, oh, why
is he doing these interviews? Why does he do contentious interviews?
I think it's a little bit of what I said.
For the reason to have Jake taperon, because Trump is
aware that you can't just do Fox News. You can't
(17:42):
just do the Clay and Buck Show. Sometimes you have
to go into the lions den and actually confront them
face to face and call them out on their lives.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Does everybody get it?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, but the success in twenty twenty four suggests that
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everybody not to travel to El Salvador. There now is
a report that Hakeem Jeffries is denying that he is
saying that. So I guess the best way to test
it will be to find out do Democrat trips to
El Salvador continue. I would make the I would make
(19:23):
the argument because I think it's quite clear that there
is no benefit at all to making a Brao Garcia
the focal point of the anti Trump deportation process. And
more details continue to come out, Buck, you were just
talking about the evidence that he is a member of
(19:45):
MS thirteen. Over the last twenty four hours, a report
came out that the ex husband of a Brao Garcia's
current wife had five failed a circuit court in Prince
George's County, Maryland, report saying that he did not want
(20:08):
his kids because two, I guess of the kids that
were in that household are fathered by another individual to
be around a Breo Garcia because he was a gang
banger and involved in El Salvadoran gangs. This is back
in two thousand and eighteen, he said on the court
(20:30):
filing page.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I mean, as more evidence continues to come out that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He knows that she is in danger and that his
kids are in danger because this guy is a gang member.
He said, I'm afraid of my kids living in danger
because she is dating a gang member. This was before
she married this guy. So to your point, Buck, the
(20:59):
evidence just continues to pile up of what a bad
dude this guy is, oftentimes in official court filings because
remember later this woman who would marry a Breo Garcia
would file a attempt to get a restraining order because she
said that he was beating her up. And there are
reports that in Tennessee, my home state, state highway patrol
(21:22):
pulled over a Breo Garcia in the car of a
known human trafficker, that is, the registered vehicle of a
known human trafficker, with seven other individuals who did not
have IDs, and it appeared that he was human trafficking them.
So we'll see whether Democrats continue to take a trip
to El Salvador. But I think that Hakim Jeffries has
(21:45):
likely seen that this is a very negative story for Democrats,
that they picked the wrong front facing opposition figure to
this policy, and that it is a disaster as well.
We've met talked about this yesterday, Bock. But I do
want this to be out there, southern border totally closed.
(22:07):
This was Trump with Moran on ABC News. Cut five.
The biggest accomplishment of the first hundred days of Trump's
presidency is we have a more secure southern border. Maybe
in the history of the United States, it has never
been this secure. Here is Trump saying it's totally closed down.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Cut five.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I think maybe the border is the most significant because
our country.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Was really going bad.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
They were allowing people to come in from prisons, as
you know, and you've heard me say it, but you've
heard a lot of people say at prisons, mental institutions,
gang members, murderers, We had many murders eleven eight hundred
and eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
They think some murdered more than one person.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
So you had murderers coming in, You had everybody coming in,
and not just South America, from all over the world
that were emptying their prisons into our country.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And now it's totally closed down.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
And you've seen just yesterday they announced ninety nine point
nine percent.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Nobody thought that could happen. Then it happened quickly.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Okay, So this is going on, and Democrats, in addition
to the l Salvador mess, they have decided that they're
going to impeach Trump. And I don't know about you, Buck,
I don't think we talked about it very much. This
guy who tried to impeach him, Shri Thunadar, who is
a Michigan Democrat Rep. I didn't think this video was
real of him talking about the fact that he was
(23:25):
going to try and impeach the president of the United States.
I thought it was some sort of Saturday Night Live skit.
It is in fact real. And sometimes it's not only
that Trump is making the right decisions, it's that he
seems to be able to provoke people who disagree with
him to behave in such an outlandish fashion that they
(23:47):
are basically giving contributions to Trump because he's got the
best possible foes.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, you can also see that Democrats are recognizing that
some of their central lines of attack.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Are not resonating the way that they would have assumed.
I think they would.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
A part of this is the attacks are not within
the mood or they're not along the lines of what
the American people particularly want to focus on right now.
I think beyond that, I also think that the loss
of credibility from the largest anti Trump news organizations in.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Big part because here's what I think.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I somehow think that the COVID stuff is not as
damaging to the media's credibility, and I disagree with this perception,
but I think this is what has happened. I think
the Biden dementia cover up was like the last nail
in the coffin for what we formerly call the mainstream
media or the MSM MSM, the Democrat A line corporate media.
(24:49):
I think the dementia cover up is actually which is
part of why they're trying to fight on this issue
now or rewrited or come up with some way to
get past it. Because if you you are a person
who is able to think for yourself, you would come
away saying, Okay, if they could lie about that, they
can lie about absolutely anything, and I'm not going to
(25:12):
take at face value their attacks on this administration anymore.
Maybe that's only five or ten percent of Americans who
are in that realm, but you know who, there's like
forty percent of us are pro Trump, like Trump right
all the time or pretty much all the time. Five
or ten percent I think are with Trump on a
lot of things, maybe not with them on everything. And
(25:33):
then maybe there's five or ten percent of people who
are truly independents who can swing either way. It's actually
I don't think I think I think it's less than
that number. But just roughly speaking, and Clay, I think
that they are not swayed by the New York Times
the Washington Post the same way anymore. And I think
that that's a big change. By the way they've got
this guy of Vermont, Judge Vermont, beautiful state. I used
(25:54):
to go to camp in Vermont. I love Vermont. I
don't know why it has to have communist politics. Lovely
is a fantastic state. Why have they It's a really
good question. How of all the states in America have
they lost their way the most? Well, it's the Bernie
Sanders effect. You have a lot of Libs from New
York who transplanted to Vermont. You know, they've had their
(26:16):
gun laws aren't as good as they used to be.
I think they've tied them up a little bit. But
they used to be very pro Second Amendment. It's a
very low crime state. But a lot of New Yorkers
and tri State area. People with liberal views have moved
to Vermont of the last thirty forty years. Anyway, it's
a beautiful state but has terrible politics, which is a shame.
(26:37):
But there's a judge there, no surprise, who has ordered
the release of Mosen Madawi. This is one of these
Columbia University pro Palestinian protest guys. He was here on
a green card and he is now in the process
or they're trying to deport him. And he was arrested
(26:57):
by federal agents at an immigrantation center in Vermont, and
the ACLU, of course is representing him, and the ACLU
doing its absolute best to tear down American society and
civilization and burn it all to the ground in the
name of selective civil rights. I might add, they don't
care about Christian civil rights like that. There are a
lot of people the ACLU doesn't care about at all,
(27:18):
but they're good at trying to burn our country down
and salt the earth beneath it. But Clay, once again,
here's somebody who when they try to drum drum up
a lot of sympathy for this guy. As he's now out,
you just go back and look at his role in
these protests, which were horrible. And let's remember not only
were these protests threatening people and breaking laws and violating
(27:40):
not just campus policy but but criminal code in some instances.
I mean, you can't menace people, you can't threaten to
hurt people.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It happened after October seventh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
This is this is the response of these lunatics on
these campuses after a mass casualty attack that had We
can't even go into how barbaric and awful it is.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
We've talked about him many times on the show. I'm
supposed to be sympathetic for this guy. He was lucky
he was letting to America in the first place. He's
got to go. I just maybe I'm too confident that
the American people have seen enough now to recognize some
of the internal threats that we have because of our
immigration policy and the exploitation of it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I think we're there.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I think that people really believe, in generally speaking, what
Trump is doing. The birthright citizenship case that the Supreme
Court has agreed to take. I'm on record, I don't
think they're going to allow an executive order to change it.
But I think the rationale and ruling that they will
undertake will be important for how this conversation goes in
(28:48):
the future, because I can't get over the fact that
we are allowing illegals to come into the country and
then benefit from their illegal entry. And usually the most
basic rule of most aspects of our criminal justice system
(29:08):
is you aren't allowed to profit off of a crime,
and allowing kids of illegals to be citizens is directly
allowing someone to profit off of committing a crime. So
when you perpetrate a fraud, you shouldn't get the benefit
of the fraud going forward, and that is one of
the most essential and basic elements of the criminal code.
(29:32):
We have to rectify this. We have to have real
conversation about birthright citizenship, and it has to stop, has
to end, because I think that would go the furthest
to changing the incentive structure as it pertains to people
coming to this country illegally. Certainly, we need to keep
the southern border closed, and we need to deport people
(29:52):
violent felons, then eventually others who shouldn't be here. But
this is I think, to the essence of a country.
We have to stop this from occurring. I also think
that while the dementia cover up is the most egregious
that we have seen and that has had the greatest
effect on the national perception of our the large Democrat
(30:18):
media organization's clay the story that they told us for
four years roughly that Joe Biden was doing everything he could,
it was out of his hands to secure the border.
I mean, that was really the narrative. They were lying
their faces off about that all across New York Times,
Washington Posts, Seeing and et cetera, et cetera, all of them.
(30:40):
They were lying so much about it, and we now
know that because we've proven the lie right, We've tested
this out. So this is part of I think why
they're having such a hard time getting their feet underneath
them in opposition to the Trump administration, because the credibility
gap that they have created with people who are not
just cult members of a Democrat party. I don't know
(31:04):
how they come back from it. I'll be honest, Like,
how do they come back from it? They're going to
try out the same people that have lied about that stuff.
So anyway, this is how I see it playing out.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
We'll see if it.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Continues in this vein, you know, Mother's Day maybe a
week and a half away, but last weekend sure felt
like it. At our house, my mom visited Carrie and
me to see her newest grandson, James Speed. Like the
attorney general under Lincoln. I cannot think of a better Clay.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I got a Civil War era name.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
By the way, you must be this must be high
five from that. It's absolutely, very, very impressive. Although I
would point out that this is actually an interesting angle.
Do you see where the argument is that we should
do away with the writ of habeas corpus like Lincoln
did during the Civil War in order to kick everybody
out of the country.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I have seen that. Yes, it's an interesting argument from
his attorney general.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So anyway, game Speed. My mom came down to see him.
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Welcome back into Clay inn Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I've got some interesting talk to you about coming up
here in the next hour. But we've also got the
Trump Cabinet meeting which is going underway still. It is
really going for quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We will dive into some of that, and then Clay,
this is some analysis I want to share.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't know if you saw this.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I like it when I can just lay it out
and we'll have a real time reaction from Clay. Did
you see the analysis of S and P five hundred
companies mentioning DEI in an I didn't. I just saw it.
Flash by like for a sex So I h you
dive into the article. We will, you know, we like
we make these arguments to you because we're people who
are we're observers and analysts, right, that's central to our job.
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doing what we do here. And whenever we can use data,
it's nice because it backs up the perception that we
have what we're picking up out there in the in
the ether, and sure enough the data is THEI is
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we will discuss that, and we'll also get into some
(34:49):
of the cabinet meeting that's has been underway. Elon looks
like he's well, he was always going to leave end
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Did you know that Vermont was originally called New Connecticut?
And I will tell you, even as somebody who lived
adjacent to New England, I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Were you aware of that? That's so I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I haven't spent that much time in New England, right,
I mean, I've been to New York City quite a lot.
But for anybody who is spent time in New York City,
it's not really very similar to the rest of the state,
certainly not Upper New York. And no I haven't. I
have very limited knowledge. Here's A good question for you, Buck,
as a person who grew up in the Northeast, and
(36:15):
I always think this is interesting. If the country had
been settled west to east, would anyone live in the Northeast.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Whoa WHOA settled down about it settled down? Now, you
could make it argue like seasons, Clay, some people like seasons.
You can make an argument that people would have never
left the West coast because they'd have been like, it's
perfect here, It's like the Garden of Eden and much
of it. But I would submit to you that if
we had settled the country west to east, the least
(36:44):
populated place in the entire United States would actually be
the Northeast.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'm throwing a challenge flag on this right away.
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