June 7, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour of today’s Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Buck Sexton, hosting solo while Clay Travis is on vacation, delivers a high-energy breakdown of major political and cultural developments. The hour opens with a focus on national security and immigration enforcement under President Donald Trump, highlighting a major ICE operation dubbed “Operation Patriot,” which targeted over 1,500 high-value criminal illegal aliens. Sexton praises the Trump administration’s proactive stance on border security and law enforcement, contrasting it with previous Democratic policies. The show then shifts to international affairs, covering a significant Ukrainian drone strike on Russian bombers, which people have compared to the “Hezbollah-style” pager surprise attack. He emphasizes the strategic implications and the evolving nature of modern warfare. A major segment is dedicated to a controversial incident in California where a biological male identifying as female won the state girl’s high school track championship. Sexton critiques the media’s coverage, particularly CNN’s framing of the issue, and features commentary from attorney Julie Hamill, who argues that such policies violate Title IX and federal civil rights law. The discussion underscores the Trump administration’s position on protecting women’s sports and enforcing legal definitions of sex and gender. The hour also covers a disturbing antisemitic attack in Boulder, Colorado, where an illegal immigrant allegedly threw incendiary devices at a vigil for Israeli hostages. Sexton links the attack to broader concerns about immigration enforcement and national security, reinforcing President Trump’s warnings about the risks posed by unchecked illegal immigration. Throughout the hour, Sexton criticizes mainstream media narratives, particularly those from CNN, and highlights what he sees as the ideological extremism of the left on issues ranging from gender identity to immigration. He calls for stronger enforcement of federal laws and praises the Trump administration’s efforts to restore order and uphold American values.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off
right now. Thank you so much for being here. As
you know, Clay on vacation. He's having a great time.
Checked in with him this morning. He'll be back with
us on Friday. So it's just me for the next
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few days. Buck, I will refrain from speaking again the
third person. Thank you for being here as old and
We've got a lot of news stories. Honestly, today is
one of these days we are stacked. I've also got
some great guests lined up. I'll tell you more about
that in a bit, though they're in the second and
third hours. You have. Ukraine says that it hit dozens
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of Russian bombers in a really sophisticated drone attack. I'll
take you through some of that. People are calling this
Ukraine's Hesbala Pager moment. Not sure it's well, Actually it
is pretty I was gonna say it's not quite as sophisticated,
but it's pretty close. It was a spectacular attack in
the sense of caught the Russians very much by surprise,
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a lot of damage done and of military targeting. We
shall discuss that we've got the champion, this young man,
and this is gonna be tough, but we have to
just speak about this. But heck, she's not tough. I
was gonna say, we'll just speak about this the way
that we should, because it's what is factual. A young
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man has won the California track state championship for women.
And there was a clip I'm going to walk you
through this, a clip on CNN or a segment on
CNN where a a attorney and the president of the
California Justice Center, Julie Hammill, goes through piece by piece
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with a CNN anchor who is effectively delusional, I mean,
calling this person her and she and what about her
feelings and all this stuff for the biological male who
just beat all the girls in California in track. And
this is a violation of federal law, this is a
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violation of common sense. And when you hear this exchange,
I think you will find it is remarkably illuminating about
how the left is not backing down on this stuff.
And the left is insane. They have not moved away
from this issue. So we shall dive into that. But
you know, first up, I just finished watching a few
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moments ago they were talking about a major ICE operation underway.
Major ICE operation underway, or rather it's still underway, but
they've had initial results in fifteen hundred high value target
criminal aliens who are in the country. Now, I remember,
these aren't just people who are here illegally. These are
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people who are here illegally and do bad things and
break the law and pray on their on Americans and
their fellow human beings. So these are the top priorities
that exist out there for enforcements. When it comes to
immigration and deportation operations. They call that Operation Patriot. They
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had to think somebody from the ICE office in Boston
talking about this, but this is absolutely essential. One of
the things that I love about this administration is they
aren't just stopping the crazy stuff that the other side,
or rather refraining from doing the same crazy stuff that
the Democrats were doing. Yes, that's an improvement, but they're
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also saying, hold on a second, that's illegal. We're not
going to allow you. We're going to stop you from
doing the crazy things, whether it's the transgender you know,
men and women's sports stuff or now this sanctuary city complete,
you know, forgetting about the rule of low stuff on
immigration and the reasons for this, or rather we got
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a reminder of how important this is with this attack
in Colorado that happens. Now, let me give you what
the situation. What the situation is. A guy went to
this was in Boulder, Colorado on Sunday. A guy yell's
free Palestine and threw incendiary devices into this crowd. In Boulder, Colorado,
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there was a demonstration to remember the Israeli hostages who
remain in Gaza. So think about this for a moment.
There's a group of people who have gotten together to
just stand in solidarity with and remind the public about
the fact that there are still hostages who are being
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held by Hamas, which I would also remind everybody violation
of Geneva Convention wor crime itself. It's a decision that
they have made. These are terrorists. These are terrorists. They
have hostages that are dying and that they've killed in
their custody, and they have more and they refuse to
give them back because they are terrorists and they are
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the enemies of civilization and do not forget that Hamas
is an enemy of civilization anywhere in the world and
should be treated as such. I do not view Hamas
as distinct or different from a group like al Qaeda.
I think that they share the baseline ideology that makes
them as vicious as they are, and why they it
is as necessary as it is to meet them on
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the battlefield and to destroy them. That's how I view Hamas.
I don't want to sit around and talk about, Oh,
maybe there's some future where Hamas is not going to
be so crazy anyway. So there's this demonstration taking place
in Boulder, Colorado for Israeli hostages, and this lunatic runs
up to them, and you had eight people who are
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transport of the hospital. He threw in sandiary devices I
assume something like a like a Molotov cocktail, some sort
of incendiary device like that, and people were burned and
they had to be taken directly to the hospital as
a result. Yeah, that burns on their legs, badly burned
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on most of her. One of them appear to be
badly burned on most of her body, wrapped in a
flag by a bystander. Horrific trying to lighting people on fire.
That's what this meaning. I did he lit people on
fire at a Let's remember the hostages. Think about the
psychological damage that these hostages and their families are still
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going through. Any day, some savage from Hamasque could execute them.
If it's a woman in custody. We know what they've
been doing to women in custody. I mean, these people
are barbarians. Barbarians, and there is a gathering of those
who want to remind all of us of what's going
on here. You know, the pro Hamas, pro Gaza Free
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Palestine maniacs that are out there. They hate talk of
the hostages because what they really want is this pretense
that they have the moral high ground. There's a genocide
in Gaza, maybe the quote unquote genocide. It is not
a genocide, but maybe what they call genocide would stop
if Hamas would just give back the hostages that it
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has in its and it could do so tomorrow, it
could have done so at any point since it started
this war. And Hamas did start this war, as we
know with October seventh. So that brings me to this individual,
who it turns out was here on a tourist visa.
Fox News was the first that I saw reported this.
It was authorized to stay till February twenty twenty three,
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stayed in the country illegally, applied for asylum, received a
work permit which was valid through March of twenty twenty five.
Stayed in the country illegally. That's something that we have
to remind ourselves of here. So we just suffered a
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terrorist attack from an illegal That's what happened. That's not
the way that the here you go, here you go.
Here's how Reuters, here's how Routers covers this. I just
told you what really happened. And illegal who yelled free
Palestine and lit people on fire, engaged in a anti Semitic
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terrorist attack on US soil. And he was only here
because he had evaded our immigration laws. You know, Trump
has been talking about this all along. Yet another moment
where you say, oh wow, Trump is right that we
have risks. We have risks to our security that come
from these individuals, that come from these individuals who enter
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illegally or stay illegally after legal entry, which is the
case here, and that is is unacceptable and one of
the reasons they're such a risk. It's not just that
they break the law. We don't know who they are.
They are effectively off radar. Once they stay beyond they're
allowed time, or once they enter illegally, we don't know
what they're up to. We don't know what they're doing.
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And now you have people who had to be rushed
to the hospital after being lit on fire at a
peaceful vigil for hostages because some illegal alien maniac was
in the country. Suspect named as Mohammed Saliman. Yeah, that's
the suspect's name. So eight people injured in this in
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illegal engage in a terrorist attack. A reminder of why
it is so important and so urgent to get criminal
illegals out of this country as quickly as possible, because
we've allowed a lot of maniacs like this one to
come into the country. And you could say, oh, what
they always do is they try to get you to
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focus on the people that just want a better life
for themselves, and well, the problem is we can't just
allow people who want a better life for themselves to
come into the country at will, because then this country
would cease to exist. We can't handle it. It wouldn't be
America anymore, it would be something else. And Democrats want
to turn it into that as quickly as they can,
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and there's a whole bunch of reasons why we can
get into the psychology behind that. But in the meantime,
we are here saying, and the Trump administration is saying
enough enough. Eight people lit on fire at a protest
by this maniac. It's appalling, and it shows you how
critical it is that Trump's work and the administration's work
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continues on this. And then you have the true imbeciles
over places like CNN, where I used to be a
terrorism analyst and I was always right, you know my room.
My record was for saying, this is jihadis terrorism, and
it turned out to be a gehadas terrorism one hundred percent.
In fact, they had people that they brought on TV.
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This is a true story. They brought me on TV
once at CNN to analyze terror attack because I had
worked at a little place called the CIA Counter Terrorism Center.
And they actually brought on some other expert to disagree
with me. I don't remember, you know, some academic or something,
and it came out while we were on the air.
That's true, came out while we were on the air
that yeah, no, actually there was like a jihad manifesto
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and GI the whole thing, but they don't care. The
point is they want to feel good about themselves for
thinking this isn't a Muslim jie hottist thing, this is
some other thing. I don't want to jump to conclusions.
We may never know the motive. We may never know
the motive. Here's former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and
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Harvard professor Juliet Kayem. She's a true she was the
one I was talking about last week. I't to tell
you that she's a true imbecile. Shechs at Harvard imbecile.
Here they are. This is them on the CNN panel
after this attack, play seven.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's hard to imagine that the FBI has more or
better information at this point to kind of rush out
with the conclusion within like ten minutes after we all
started hearing about this, that it's a targeted active ERA
may very well be, but most of the time you
try to be very careful about attaching that label to
an attack until you have solid evidence that indicates a
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motive that would qualify as terrorism, like an act intended
to intimidate a population or to change the direction of government.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's not good for the community. It's not good for
the potentially targeted community. It makes law enforcement look disorganized,
and it makes the FBI look so juvenile, like, why
are you getting ahead of the police chief?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
A Muslim guy who's an illegal alien through a molotov
cocktail at a bunch of Jews at a free the
hostages protest, and he yelled, free Palestine.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think we know what's going on here, right, I
think we all understand why this guy did what he did.
And yet they go on CNN and they say this
because part of the mandate of the left, part of
the mandate of the Democrat Party these days, is to
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continue to continue trying to help these Democrats live in
an alternate universe because they're so wrong on so many things,
and it's becoming more and more apparent with every day,
and the Trump administration is exposing the truth and taking
action in ways that it becomes unavoidable for them to
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have to start to look at this. So this is
like their fantasy escapism of well, we may never really
know gee, kind of like how I knew and Clay
knew that Biden had dementia, kind of like how we
knew that the trans manifesto was going to talk about
how the trans terrorist in Nashville was a maniac who
hated Christians and Conservatives and it was terrorism. And they're like,
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we don't know, we have to way the of course
we know, of course we know. But it is better
in the democrat mind to be told something so stupid,
such as we can't know you know, the real motive,
or we don't know the free Palestine guy who was
throwing the incendiary devices at the Jews yelling free Palestine,
and we don't know what's going on there. They would
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rather be told that than you are on the side
of evil and you've been wrong on everything. That's really
what's going on here. They'd rather be talked to you
like complete idiots than have to face the reality of
you're on the wrong side. You're on the Hamas side,
you're on the Jihad side, you're on the enemies of civilization.
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Team Libs. Wise up. They don't want to hear that.
Now's a good time to talk to you about the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, talk about the allies
of civilization. Those who are fighting for civilization are brothers
and sisters in Israel. As we know there was this
horrifying attack and Old Colorado shows just how clear the
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antisemitism is and how it can be lethally even in
this country. And one of the eight people injured was
an eighty eight year old Holocaust survivor. If you're helpless,
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pretty clear to anybody who is paying attention who the
good guys are and who the bad guys are in
the whole Gaza Israel situation. And I know that he
isn't with us on everything, but on this issue, Bill
maher better than a lot of Democrats. He said it
pretty well over the weekend. This has cut nine play it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I'm not saying Trump is a guy reading historians every night,
but to the average person, he seems to get the
idea Western civilization good that a lot of these kids don't.
I mean, there was two people shot outside of the
Israeli embassy in Washington, DC last week, and the guy
who did it, Elias Rodriguez, doesn't sound like he has
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ties to the region directly that I did it for Palestine. Now,
if you have kids screaming on campus, globalize the into
bring the into fada home, this is what you get.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This is what they mean it is, and this is
what happens. And it just happened again over the weekend.
This guy wasn't a college kid, but the same mentality
the Intifada involved. If you look at this second Intifada
in the early two thousands, it was the constant infiltration
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of suicide bombers into restaurants, pizzerias, barmits, fazz anywhere they
could kill as many people as well, you know, the
elderly babies. That was the intefada. Okay, yeah, the word
means uprising, but what did actually entail the worst kinds
of brutality and horrific violence imaginable, intentionally killing civilians and
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the helpless. So it's not hard to know who the
good guys and the bad guys are.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
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CNN and how things are going over there, and you know,
we played former deputy director of the FBI saying, look,
let's not get ahead of things. And then the other
national security analyst, she's the dumbest national security analyst on television.
I don't say it to be mean, I just don't
want anyone to be confused. Consistently says the most absurd things.
But she's a Harvard professor, so we're supposed to be impressed. Yeah,
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you know, like the professor at Harvard who recently got
fired for just the honesty professor fired for dishonesty and
fabricating her results on honesty in official publications. Yeah, Harvard,
that place, so we know that their ability to tell
what a terrorist attack is not very high. When you're
confused about a terrorist attack that involves a guy yelling
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free Palestine attacking a bunch of Jews at a peaceful vigil,
I think we know what's going on. I really do.
I don't think we're I don't think we're at ahead
of things. I don't think we're being quote looking juvenile,
which is what was said on that. There's another area
where I think the insanity of Democrats is very much,
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very much worth diving into. I want to do, Mike,
let's do this in like a stop start fashion, okay,
because I want you to hear a lot of it.
We have Julie Hammill joining us later, so the lawyer,
and she was the one in this exchange, so we
can talk you about this. Might not go through the
whole clip, or we'll go through a couple of minutes
of this. Here this is so we'll go stop start
so you can hear the argument. This is about this
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guy who is now trans and you look at them,
those it's got a man's body, just got like some
eyeshadow on and long hair. Who just won the track
and field championships in California, the biggest state in the
country by population. So the raigning track and field champion
for high school is a dude. For women's track and
field champions, a dude biological mail. This is a violation,
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of course, of the Trump administration executive order and policy
on this. This should be considered a violation of federal law.
And yet this is still happening, And I want you
to hear. I'm of a couple of minds about how
this went with CNN's Briannick Keeler, but I want you
to hear this exchange. So let's start it and then
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I'll say stop when we need to jump in play six.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
What would make this fair for her to compete for
those who are competing against her, What would that kind
of structure in competition look like?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Who is her?
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Ab ab okay ab Hernandez is a male who identifies
as a female. What would be fair is to have
Hernandez competing in the male category. It is not fair
to the females competing to have to compete with a male.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Okay, So in Trump's federal funding threat, is that something though,
that would hurt all student athletes, including athletes who are
assigned female at birth.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Stop would his stop stop stop? Really hold it right there?
Notice she her all the all this it's a guy.
It's not a she, it's not a her. And this
anchor says assigned female at birth, as if as if
these girls, these young women who are competing, you know,
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could have gone either way. The doctor could have looked
down there and been like, you know what, I don't know.
Maybe it's a dude. If your doctor can't tell the difference,
it's not a very good doctor, is it. Of course,
that is complete propaganda language for that to be said
on CNN. Should be ashamed that this was aired. But
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that's just the start. Let's keep going play.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Federal funding threat hurt athletes if the money is taken away.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
So the law actually says that schools that do not
abide Title nine or other federal laws can not receive
federal funds. So that's not Trump's fault. The problem is
that the state with eighty twelve sixes.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
But you understand, rually, there's a you understand there's there's
two view two views here on title nine. So just
to be clear, not everyone agrees with you on how
you're viewing it. So in that regard, if you were
to take away the funding on as it pertains to
trans athletes, not everyone agrees with you. I think we
just have to be clear about that. If you are
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taking away the funds for athletes student athletes in California,
isn't that going to hurt all of them?
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Taking away federal funds is going to hurt all California kids,
which is why the state of California needs to comply
with federal law. It's very simple.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So when you take jobs, stop right there, stop right there.
Notice the way there's being framed by the anchor, California
is violating the federal civil rights law Title MIND pass
back in the seventies that prohibits sex base discrimination educational programs.
The same law that has been used to mean that
you have to spend equal funding on men and women
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or else, which has destroyed a lot of men's athletics programs.
That's why there's no wrestling, no crew teams, a lot
of these places. But put that aside for a second.
That same federal civil rights law that we've heard about
for decades and has been used as a tool by
the left for all kinds of social engineering. That is
still the law, and you are in violation of that
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law if you are subjecting women to men in women's
specific areas of life. Right. This couldn't be any more straightforward.
But notice the CN anchor takes the approach of well,
because you are choosing to enforce the law, which means
no federal funding, which has always been the way that
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they have ensured Title NINN compliance, always for decades, Okay,
for fifty years. Because now it's going to affect something
that is a left wing ideological position, it's but what
about all the people that are going to be affected
by that pull in funding who aren't involved in this? Well,
guess what. That's quite a difference, isn't it. What's the
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change here? Well, they like one thing, they don't like
the other. Fair to a democrat means things I like
versus things I don't like. There's no fair to them,
and there's certainly no law to them. The law is
the same thing. The law to a democrat is do
I like this or not? If I like it, it's
legal if I don't. It's illegal, full stop. That's how
Justice Sotomayor makes her decisions, That's how the entire left
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wing legal apparatus functions. But let's continue on with this
fascinating exchange on CNN Play.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
It Science on trans athletes. What is really clear is
that there needs to be a lot more research on
a lot more trans athletes to be able to draw
better conclusions about the effect of whether gender affirming care
actually reduces or eliminates the advantage conferred on an athlete
who is genetically male. Would you welcome more research? Is
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this a situation where more research might help?
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I absolutely think that more research and more careful and
thoughtful discussion is necessary here. Pediatric sex change procedures are
very harmful and they cause lifelong damage to children, and
this is something that the United States of America needs
to examine thoughtfully, and people need to be able to
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discuss openly without being called bigots and transphobes.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Okay, let's just jump in here. I like the way
that that was handled there by Julie Hamil. You can
tell that the anchor and it sounds like she's making
a hostage video, Like I think that somebody must have
been telling her in her ear because I remember this
at CNN, because I remember I worked there, and I
could hear. Sometimes if you're on set, sometimes you can
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hear what's being said into the ear piece, not the words,
but you can hear that someone's talking to them. I
think that maybe she was being fed some of this
because what she says, what the anchor was saying, is
so dumb and so counterintuitive that it's hard to believe
that she would actually come up with this stuff on
her own. It makes you think that there had to
be somebody feeding her this stuff. Like, we need more study.
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I mean, this is a seventeen or an eighteen year old, dude.
This is a junior in high school. A juniors in
high school tend to be seventeen or eighteen, right, So
let's just say I'm trying to find do we know
the age of mister Hernandez. By the way, the New
York Times rights the two girls, miss Hernandez and Brooke
White of River City High School, were up on the
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podium together. It's not a girl, it's not this is
The New York Times. How old is she? He? Sorry? Sixteen? Okay, sixteen?
This is somebody who's had the benefit of male hormones
and male physical transformation through puberty. Almost You know a
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lot of people by sixteen seventeen, they're you know, they've
gone through most of the physical changes that they that
you will in terms of the difference between men and
women in puberty, right, a lot of people. You can
get us some of the specifics here. It is also
my understanding, just to give an example of this, that
I think you're seventeen, you can join you can join
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the military. I think you're seventeen you can like join
the Marine Corps. I could be wrong, but I think
you're able to. So let me know if guys, if
I'm off on that one, but I think you are.
And there might be something you know, your parents might
have feel like give permission or I don't know, maybe not.
Don't please, don't get mad at me. But I think
I've heard of people who are seventeen who joined the military.
My point being that you know, physically, at seventeen, as
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a male, you are very male capable. All right, You're
very male capable. You've gone through most of the puberty process,
if not all of it, and so the musculature, the
bone density, all of that stuff will have already been
in place. Is it any surprise that this trans individual
is the champion? Notice, the trans individual isn't like, you know,
(29:06):
number ten or whatever. Somehow, there's not that many of
these trans people, so you know that are trying to
compete in high school athletics. Somehow the trans male or
trans female whatever is the best at this, and we're
supposed to think that's coincidence. You have the CNN anchor
telling you, oh, this needs more study. We need more study.
(29:28):
All of you who have kids, and especially well just
kids in general. But if you've had boys and girls,
you know that's the most absurd. That's the most absurd
thing you've ever heard, right, needs more study. No, we
know this. We've known this for all of human history.
Men are men and women are women, and there are
distinct differences between the two, and that in the overwhelming
majority of cases, men are going to have substantially more
(29:52):
muscle and physical capacity to similarly situated females right of
similar age. And you know, time spent in an activity track,
you know, weightlifting, whatever it may be. We all know.
How are we having this debate? And I also think
it's it's really wrong that they do this thing where
(30:13):
they say, well, the girls competing in California against or
some of them, they haven't complained about it. Well, gee,
I don't know. They maybe they don't want to be
rejected from every college they apply to. Maybe they don't
want to be attacked docks and maybe even threatened horrifically
on the internet. Because the people that push this stuff
for maniacs and they do that. The people that are
really believers in this think that they are kind of
(30:36):
like the Free Palestine crowd, think that they are completely
morally on the on the right side to push this agenda,
even if they have to do horrible things in order
to do it. I mean, I would argue that it's
a horrible thing, or you know, it's a really nasty thing.
It's not a terrorist attack, but it's it's a nasty
thing to take away the trophies and and the UH
(30:59):
to undermine what these girls have done. These girls are sixteen,
seventeen years old. Some of them have probably been competing
track and field, certainly since they were in middle of
grammar school, and this could be a really special moment
for them. And they have some guy who says it's
a woman who's now beating all of them. It's preposterous.
(31:20):
It is completely preposterous, and we all know it. And
Gavin Newsom is a coward and I told you this too.
People say, oh, he said it's not fair. That's not
what he said in that interview. Gavin Newsom, he said
when he said it's not fair, he meant to any
party involved. It's not fair to the trans person. It's
not fair. You know, it's like a generally not fair.
He didn't say he was going to turn this around.
(31:41):
Then he has it. And so now they're trying to
win this argument because the enforcement mechanism for this civil
rights law, which is Title nine, the enforcement mechanism is
pulling federal funding, which has ensured compliance for decades. California
and some other states are out of compliance. Federal funding
should be pulled. And what you cannot allow is the
Democrats to pretend that it is the fault of Trump
(32:03):
and the Republicans that this funding is being pulled. No,
Gavin Newsom is violating civil rights law as a fact
of day to day life in the state of California.
Democrats aren't backing off this, which tells you I mean
this is after the election they just had and the
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you that piece by piece. We'll talk to Julie Hammill
(34:19):
about her extended conversation with that CNN host where she's
like in a corner her and assigned at birth, and
just give us a sense of what's going on in
the state of California and what really is the policy
and why is it that California seems to think that
(34:42):
they don't have to abide by federal civil rights law?
You know, why do they think they get to just
make it up as they go along? I mean, how
could you even enforce this right? If men and women
have to be treated in a way that is equal
in the law, but the law can't actually determine who
a man and a woman is. How can that law
be enforced? Because how can you know if a woman
(35:05):
is being discriminated against for being a woman if you
don't know what a woman is? And I know that
that sounds like we're running in circles, but that is
what is going on here. I mean, that is truly
the situation laid bare. So it's nuts. By the way,
here's the mom of this, of the of ab Hernandez
(35:26):
doing what I would you know expect in the situation,
which is to try to I mean, she supports all
this of course, and she's doing the emotional blackmail thing
of if you don't let my son compete against women,
he may hurt himself. Play five.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
I'm not losing my child because of my stubbornness, and
for me being close minded like I rather embrace ourd
times together even if it's been this difficult than going
to a cemetery and crying because I couldn't accept something.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You know, emotional blackmail, that's what that is. You have
to go along with a delusion or else you are
wishing harm upon my child. Well what are the outer
limits to that? I wonder by the way, you know,
take my son at take my son at Harvard Admissions,
or else he may hurt himself. I mean, you start
(36:22):
to go down this path and you say, what the
heck is going on? We'll talk to Julie hammil about this.
In this view,
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. It kicks off
right now. Thank you so much for being here. As
you know, Clay on vacation. He's having a great time.
Checked in with him this morning. He'll be back with
us on Friday. So it's just me for the next
(00:21):
few days. Buck, I will refrain from speaking again the
third person. Thank you for being here as old and
We've got a lot of news stories. Honestly, today is
one of these days we are stacked. I've also got
some great guests lined up. I'll tell you more about
that in a bit, though they're in the second and
third hours. You have. Ukraine says that it hit dozens
(00:41):
of Russian bombers in a really sophisticated drone attack. I'll
take you through some of that. People are calling this
Ukraine's Hesbala Pager moment. Not sure it's well, Actually it
is pretty I was gonna say it's not quite as sophisticated,
but it's pretty close. It was a spectacular attack in
the sense of caught the Russians very much by surprise,
(01:04):
a lot of damage done and of military targeting. We
shall discuss that we've got the champion, this young man,
and this is gonna be tough, but we have to
just speak about this. But heck, she's not tough. I
was gonna say, we'll just speak about this the way
that we should, because it's what is factual. A young
(01:26):
man has won the California track state championship for women.
And there was a clip I'm going to walk you
through this, a clip on CNN or a segment on
CNN where a a attorney and the president of the
California Justice Center, Julie Hammill, goes through piece by piece
(01:50):
with a CNN anchor who is effectively delusional, I mean,
calling this person her and she and what about her
feelings and all this stuff for the biological male who
just beat all the girls in California in track. And
this is a violation of federal law, this is a
(02:10):
violation of common sense. And when you hear this exchange,
I think you will find it is remarkably illuminating about
how the left is not backing down on this stuff.
And the left is insane. They have not moved away
from this issue. So we shall dive into that. But
you know, first up, I just finished watching a few
(02:33):
moments ago they were talking about a major ICE operation underway.
Major ICE operation underway, or rather it's still underway, but
they've had initial results in fifteen hundred high value target
criminal aliens who are in the country. Now, I remember,
these aren't just people who are here illegally. These are
(02:55):
people who are here illegally and do bad things and
break the law and pray on their on Americans and
their fellow human beings. So these are the top priorities
that exist out there for enforcements. When it comes to
immigration and deportation operations. They call that Operation Patriot. They
(03:18):
had to think somebody from the ICE office in Boston
talking about this, but this is absolutely essential. One of
the things that I love about this administration is they
aren't just stopping the crazy stuff that the other side,
or rather refraining from doing the same crazy stuff that
the Democrats were doing. Yes, that's an improvement, but they're
(03:40):
also saying, hold on a second, that's illegal. We're not
going to allow you. We're going to stop you from
doing the crazy things, whether it's the transgender you know,
men and women's sports stuff or now this sanctuary city complete,
you know, forgetting about the rule of low stuff on
immigration and the reasons for this, or rather we got
(04:06):
a reminder of how important this is with this attack
in Colorado that happens. Now, let me give you what
the situation. What the situation is. A guy went to
this was in Boulder, Colorado on Sunday. A guy yell's
free Palestine and threw incendiary devices into this crowd. In Boulder, Colorado,
(04:33):
there was a demonstration to remember the Israeli hostages who
remain in Gaza. So think about this for a moment.
There's a group of people who have gotten together to
just stand in solidarity with and remind the public about
the fact that there are still hostages who are being
(04:54):
held by Hamas, which I would also remind everybody violation
of Geneva Convention wor crime itself. It's a decision that
they have made. These are terrorists. These are terrorists. They
have hostages that are dying and that they've killed in
their custody, and they have more and they refuse to
give them back because they are terrorists and they are
(05:15):
the enemies of civilization and do not forget that Hamas
is an enemy of civilization anywhere in the world and
should be treated as such. I do not view Hamas
as distinct or different from a group like al Qaeda.
I think that they share the baseline ideology that makes
them as vicious as they are, and why they it
is as necessary as it is to meet them on
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the battlefield and to destroy them. That's how I view Hamas.
I don't want to sit around and talk about, Oh,
maybe there's some future where Hamas is not going to
be so crazy anyway. So there's this demonstration taking place
in Boulder, Colorado for Israeli hostages, and this lunatic runs
up to them, and you had eight people who are
(06:02):
transport of the hospital. He threw in sandiary devices I
assume something like a like a Molotov cocktail, some sort
of incendiary device like that, and people were burned and
they had to be taken directly to the hospital as
a result. Yeah, that burns on their legs, badly burned
(06:22):
on most of her. One of them appear to be
badly burned on most of her body, wrapped in a
flag by a bystander. Horrific trying to lighting people on fire.
That's what this meaning. I did he lit people on
fire at a Let's remember the hostages. Think about the
psychological damage that these hostages and their families are still
(06:43):
going through. Any day, some savage from Hamasque could execute them.
If it's a woman in custody. We know what they've
been doing to women in custody. I mean, these people
are barbarians. Barbarians, and there is a gathering of those
who want to remind all of us of what's going
on here. You know, the pro Hamas, pro Gaza Free
(07:05):
Palestine maniacs that are out there. They hate talk of
the hostages because what they really want is this pretense
that they have the moral high ground. There's a genocide
in Gaza, maybe the quote unquote genocide. It is not
a genocide, but maybe what they call genocide would stop
if Hamas would just give back the hostages that it
(07:26):
has in its and it could do so tomorrow, it
could have done so at any point since it started
this war. And Hamas did start this war, as we
know with October seventh. So that brings me to this individual,
who it turns out was here on a tourist visa.
Fox News was the first that I saw reported this.
It was authorized to stay till February twenty twenty three,
(07:49):
stayed in the country illegally, applied for asylum, received a
work permit which was valid through March of twenty twenty five.
Stayed in the country illegally. That's something that we have
to remind ourselves of here. So we just suffered a
(08:09):
terrorist attack from an illegal That's what happened. That's not
the way that the here you go, here you go.
Here's how Reuters, here's how Routers covers this. I just
told you what really happened. And illegal who yelled free
Palestine and lit people on fire, engaged in a anti Semitic
(08:30):
terrorist attack on US soil. And he was only here
because he had evaded our immigration laws. You know, Trump
has been talking about this all along. Yet another moment
where you say, oh wow, Trump is right that we
have risks. We have risks to our security that come
from these individuals, that come from these individuals who enter
(08:55):
illegally or stay illegally after legal entry, which is the
case here, and that is is unacceptable and one of
the reasons they're such a risk. It's not just that
they break the law. We don't know who they are.
They are effectively off radar. Once they stay beyond they're
allowed time, or once they enter illegally, we don't know
what they're up to. We don't know what they're doing.
(09:16):
And now you have people who had to be rushed
to the hospital after being lit on fire at a
peaceful vigil for hostages because some illegal alien maniac was
in the country. Suspect named as Mohammed Saliman. Yeah, that's
the suspect's name. So eight people injured in this in
(09:38):
illegal engage in a terrorist attack. A reminder of why
it is so important and so urgent to get criminal
illegals out of this country as quickly as possible, because
we've allowed a lot of maniacs like this one to
come into the country. And you could say, oh, what
they always do is they try to get you to
(09:58):
focus on the people that just want a better life
for themselves, and well, the problem is we can't just
allow people who want a better life for themselves to
come into the country at will, because then this country
would cease to exist. We can't handle it. It wouldn't be
America anymore, it would be something else. And Democrats want
to turn it into that as quickly as they can,
(10:18):
and there's a whole bunch of reasons why we can
get into the psychology behind that. But in the meantime,
we are here saying, and the Trump administration is saying
enough enough. Eight people lit on fire at a protest
by this maniac. It's appalling, and it shows you how
critical it is that Trump's work and the administration's work
(10:41):
continues on this. And then you have the true imbeciles
over places like CNN, where I used to be a
terrorism analyst and I was always right, you know my room.
My record was for saying, this is jihadis terrorism, and
it turned out to be a gehadas terrorism one hundred percent.
In fact, they had people that they brought on TV.
(11:01):
This is a true story. They brought me on TV
once at CNN to analyze terror attack because I had
worked at a little place called the CIA Counter Terrorism Center.
And they actually brought on some other expert to disagree
with me. I don't remember, you know, some academic or something,
and it came out while we were on the air.
That's true, came out while we were on the air
that yeah, no, actually there was like a jihad manifesto
(11:23):
and GI the whole thing, but they don't care. The
point is they want to feel good about themselves for
thinking this isn't a Muslim jie hottist thing, this is
some other thing. I don't want to jump to conclusions.
We may never know the motive. We may never know
the motive. Here's former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and
(11:44):
Harvard professor Juliet Kayem. She's a true she was the
one I was talking about last week. I't to tell
you that she's a true imbecile. Shechs at Harvard imbecile.
Here they are. This is them on the CNN panel
after this attack, play seven.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's hard to imagine that the FBI has more or
better information at this point to kind of rush out
with the conclusion within like ten minutes after we all
started hearing about this, that it's a targeted active ERA
may very well be, but most of the time you
try to be very careful about attaching that label to
an attack until you have solid evidence that indicates a
(12:19):
motive that would qualify as terrorism, like an act intended
to intimidate a population or to change the direction of government.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's not good for the community. It's not good for
the potentially targeted community. It makes law enforcement look disorganized,
and it makes the FBI look so juvenile, like, why
are you getting ahead of the police chief?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
A Muslim guy who's an illegal alien through a molotov
cocktail at a bunch of Jews at a free the
hostages protest, and he yelled, free Palestine.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think we know what's going on here, right, I
think we all understand why this guy did what he did.
And yet they go on CNN and they say this
because part of the mandate of the left, part of
the mandate of the Democrat Party these days, is to
(13:16):
continue to continue trying to help these Democrats live in
an alternate universe because they're so wrong on so many things,
and it's becoming more and more apparent with every day,
and the Trump administration is exposing the truth and taking
action in ways that it becomes unavoidable for them to
(13:37):
have to start to look at this. So this is
like their fantasy escapism of well, we may never really
know gee, kind of like how I knew and Clay
knew that Biden had dementia, kind of like how we
knew that the trans manifesto was going to talk about
how the trans terrorist in Nashville was a maniac who
hated Christians and Conservatives and it was terrorism. And they're like,
(13:58):
we don't know, we have to way the of course
we know, of course we know. But it is better
in the democrat mind to be told something so stupid,
such as we can't know you know, the real motive,
or we don't know the free Palestine guy who was
throwing the incendiary devices at the Jews yelling free Palestine,
and we don't know what's going on there. They would
(14:21):
rather be told that than you are on the side
of evil and you've been wrong on everything. That's really
what's going on here. They'd rather be talked to you
like complete idiots than have to face the reality of
you're on the wrong side. You're on the Hamas side,
you're on the Jihad side, you're on the enemies of civilization.
(14:41):
Team Libs. Wise up. They don't want to hear that.
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pretty clear to anybody who is paying attention who the
good guys are and who the bad guys are in
the whole Gaza Israel situation. And I know that he
isn't with us on everything, but on this issue, Bill
maher better than a lot of Democrats. He said it
pretty well over the weekend. This has cut nine play it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I'm not saying Trump is a guy reading historians every night,
but to the average person, he seems to get the
idea Western civilization good that a lot of these kids don't.
I mean, there was two people shot outside of the
Israeli embassy in Washington, DC last week, and the guy
who did it, Elias Rodriguez, doesn't sound like he has
(16:51):
ties to the region directly that I did it for Palestine. Now,
if you have kids screaming on campus, globalize the into
bring the into fada home, this is what you get.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This is what they mean it is, and this is
what happens. And it just happened again over the weekend.
This guy wasn't a college kid, but the same mentality
the Intifada involved. If you look at this second Intifada
in the early two thousands, it was the constant infiltration
(17:25):
of suicide bombers into restaurants, pizzerias, barmits, fazz anywhere they
could kill as many people as well, you know, the
elderly babies. That was the intefada. Okay, yeah, the word
means uprising, but what did actually entail the worst kinds
of brutality and horrific violence imaginable, intentionally killing civilians and
(17:49):
the helpless. So it's not hard to know who the
good guys and the bad guys are.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
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CNN and how things are going over there, and you know,
we played former deputy director of the FBI saying, look,
let's not get ahead of things. And then the other
national security analyst, she's the dumbest national security analyst on television.
I don't say it to be mean, I just don't
want anyone to be confused. Consistently says the most absurd things.
But she's a Harvard professor, so we're supposed to be impressed. Yeah,
(19:22):
you know, like the professor at Harvard who recently got
fired for just the honesty professor fired for dishonesty and
fabricating her results on honesty in official publications. Yeah, Harvard,
that place, so we know that their ability to tell
what a terrorist attack is not very high. When you're
confused about a terrorist attack that involves a guy yelling
(19:45):
free Palestine attacking a bunch of Jews at a peaceful vigil,
I think we know what's going on. I really do.
I don't think we're I don't think we're at ahead
of things. I don't think we're being quote looking juvenile,
which is what was said on that. There's another area
where I think the insanity of Democrats is very much,
(20:06):
very much worth diving into. I want to do, Mike,
let's do this in like a stop start fashion, okay,
because I want you to hear a lot of it.
We have Julie Hammill joining us later, so the lawyer,
and she was the one in this exchange, so we
can talk you about this. Might not go through the
whole clip, or we'll go through a couple of minutes
of this. Here this is so we'll go stop start
so you can hear the argument. This is about this
(20:29):
guy who is now trans and you look at them,
those it's got a man's body, just got like some
eyeshadow on and long hair. Who just won the track
and field championships in California, the biggest state in the
country by population. So the raigning track and field champion
for high school is a dude. For women's track and
field champions, a dude biological mail. This is a violation,
(20:51):
of course, of the Trump administration executive order and policy
on this. This should be considered a violation of federal law.
And yet this is still happening, And I want you
to hear. I'm of a couple of minds about how
this went with CNN's Briannick Keeler, but I want you
to hear this exchange. So let's start it and then
(21:12):
I'll say stop when we need to jump in play six.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
What would make this fair for her to compete for
those who are competing against her, What would that kind
of structure in competition look like?
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Who is her?
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Ab ab okay ab Hernandez is a male who identifies
as a female. What would be fair is to have
Hernandez competing in the male category. It is not fair
to the females competing to have to compete with a male.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Okay, So in Trump's federal funding threat, is that something though,
that would hurt all student athletes, including athletes who are
assigned female at birth.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Stop would his stop stop stop? Really hold it right there?
Notice she her all the all this it's a guy.
It's not a she, it's not a her. And this
anchor says assigned female at birth, as if as if
these girls, these young women who are competing, you know,
(22:22):
could have gone either way. The doctor could have looked
down there and been like, you know what, I don't know.
Maybe it's a dude. If your doctor can't tell the difference,
it's not a very good doctor, is it. Of course,
that is complete propaganda language for that to be said
on CNN. Should be ashamed that this was aired. But
(22:42):
that's just the start. Let's keep going play.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Federal funding threat hurt athletes if the money is taken away.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
So the law actually says that schools that do not
abide Title nine or other federal laws can not receive
federal funds. So that's not Trump's fault. The problem is
that the state with eighty twelve sixes.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
But you understand, rually, there's a you understand there's there's
two view two views here on title nine. So just
to be clear, not everyone agrees with you on how
you're viewing it. So in that regard, if you were
to take away the funding on as it pertains to
trans athletes, not everyone agrees with you. I think we
just have to be clear about that. If you are
(23:27):
taking away the funds for athletes student athletes in California,
isn't that going to hurt all of them?
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Taking away federal funds is going to hurt all California kids,
which is why the state of California needs to comply
with federal law. It's very simple.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So when you take jobs, stop right there, stop right there.
Notice the way there's being framed by the anchor, California
is violating the federal civil rights law Title MIND pass
back in the seventies that prohibits sex base discrimination educational programs.
The same law that has been used to mean that
you have to spend equal funding on men and women
(24:08):
or else, which has destroyed a lot of men's athletics programs.
That's why there's no wrestling, no crew teams, a lot
of these places. But put that aside for a second.
That same federal civil rights law that we've heard about
for decades and has been used as a tool by
the left for all kinds of social engineering. That is
still the law, and you are in violation of that
(24:29):
law if you are subjecting women to men in women's
specific areas of life. Right. This couldn't be any more straightforward.
But notice the CN anchor takes the approach of well,
because you are choosing to enforce the law, which means
no federal funding, which has always been the way that
(24:51):
they have ensured Title NINN compliance, always for decades, Okay,
for fifty years. Because now it's going to affect something
that is a left wing ideological position, it's but what
about all the people that are going to be affected
by that pull in funding who aren't involved in this? Well,
guess what. That's quite a difference, isn't it. What's the
(25:14):
change here? Well, they like one thing, they don't like
the other. Fair to a democrat means things I like
versus things I don't like. There's no fair to them,
and there's certainly no law to them. The law is
the same thing. The law to a democrat is do
I like this or not? If I like it, it's
legal if I don't. It's illegal, full stop. That's how
Justice Sotomayor makes her decisions, That's how the entire left
(25:34):
wing legal apparatus functions. But let's continue on with this
fascinating exchange on CNN Play.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
It Science on trans athletes. What is really clear is
that there needs to be a lot more research on
a lot more trans athletes to be able to draw
better conclusions about the effect of whether gender affirming care
actually reduces or eliminates the advantage conferred on an athlete
who is genetically male. Would you welcome more research? Is
(26:03):
this a situation where more research might help?
Speaker 8 (26:08):
I absolutely think that more research and more careful and
thoughtful discussion is necessary here. Pediatric sex change procedures are
very harmful and they cause lifelong damage to children, and
this is something that the United States of America needs
to examine thoughtfully, and people need to be able to
(26:30):
discuss openly without being called bigots and transphobes.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Okay, let's just jump in here. I like the way
that that was handled there by Julie Hamil. You can
tell that the anchor and it sounds like she's making
a hostage video, Like I think that somebody must have
been telling her in her ear because I remember this
at CNN, because I remember I worked there, and I
could hear. Sometimes if you're on set, sometimes you can
(26:56):
hear what's being said into the ear piece, not the words,
but you can hear that someone's talking to them. I
think that maybe she was being fed some of this
because what she says, what the anchor was saying, is
so dumb and so counterintuitive that it's hard to believe
that she would actually come up with this stuff on
her own. It makes you think that there had to
be somebody feeding her this stuff. Like, we need more study.
(27:17):
I mean, this is a seventeen or an eighteen year old, dude.
This is a junior in high school. A juniors in
high school tend to be seventeen or eighteen, right, So
let's just say I'm trying to find do we know
the age of mister Hernandez. By the way, the New
York Times rights the two girls, miss Hernandez and Brooke
White of River City High School, were up on the
(27:39):
podium together. It's not a girl, it's not this is
The New York Times. How old is she? He? Sorry? Sixteen? Okay, sixteen?
This is somebody who's had the benefit of male hormones
and male physical transformation through puberty. Almost You know a
(28:00):
lot of people by sixteen seventeen, they're you know, they've
gone through most of the physical changes that they that
you will in terms of the difference between men and
women in puberty, right, a lot of people. You can
get us some of the specifics here. It is also
my understanding, just to give an example of this, that
I think you're seventeen, you can join you can join
(28:20):
the military. I think you're seventeen you can like join
the Marine Corps. I could be wrong, but I think
you're able to. So let me know if guys, if
I'm off on that one, but I think you are.
And there might be something you know, your parents might
have feel like give permission or I don't know, maybe not.
Don't please, don't get mad at me. But I think
I've heard of people who are seventeen who joined the military.
My point being that you know, physically, at seventeen, as
(28:43):
a male, you are very male capable. All right, You're
very male capable. You've gone through most of the puberty process,
if not all of it, and so the musculature, the
bone density, all of that stuff will have already been
in place. Is it any surprise that this trans individual
is the champion? Notice, the trans individual isn't like, you know,
(29:06):
number ten or whatever. Somehow, there's not that many of
these trans people, so you know that are trying to
compete in high school athletics. Somehow the trans male or
trans female whatever is the best at this, and we're
supposed to think that's coincidence. You have the CNN anchor
telling you, oh, this needs more study. We need more study.
(29:28):
All of you who have kids, and especially well just
kids in general. But if you've had boys and girls,
you know that's the most absurd. That's the most absurd
thing you've ever heard, right, needs more study. No, we
know this. We've known this for all of human history.
Men are men and women are women, and there are
distinct differences between the two, and that in the overwhelming
majority of cases, men are going to have substantially more
(29:52):
muscle and physical capacity to similarly situated females right of
similar age. And you know, time spent in an activity track,
you know, weightlifting, whatever it may be. We all know.
How are we having this debate? And I also think
it's it's really wrong that they do this thing where
(30:13):
they say, well, the girls competing in California against or
some of them, they haven't complained about it. Well, gee,
I don't know. They maybe they don't want to be
rejected from every college they apply to. Maybe they don't
want to be attacked docks and maybe even threatened horrifically
on the internet. Because the people that push this stuff
for maniacs and they do that. The people that are
really believers in this think that they are kind of
(30:36):
like the Free Palestine crowd, think that they are completely
morally on the on the right side to push this agenda,
even if they have to do horrible things in order
to do it. I mean, I would argue that it's
a horrible thing, or you know, it's a really nasty thing.
It's not a terrorist attack, but it's it's a nasty
thing to take away the trophies and and the UH
(30:59):
to undermine what these girls have done. These girls are sixteen,
seventeen years old. Some of them have probably been competing
track and field, certainly since they were in middle of
grammar school, and this could be a really special moment
for them. And they have some guy who says it's
a woman who's now beating all of them. It's preposterous.
(31:20):
It is completely preposterous, and we all know it. And
Gavin Newsom is a coward and I told you this too.
People say, oh, he said it's not fair. That's not
what he said in that interview. Gavin Newsom, he said
when he said it's not fair, he meant to any
party involved. It's not fair to the trans person. It's
not fair. You know, it's like a generally not fair.
He didn't say he was going to turn this around.
(31:41):
Then he has it. And so now they're trying to
win this argument because the enforcement mechanism for this civil
rights law, which is Title nine, the enforcement mechanism is
pulling federal funding, which has ensured compliance for decades. California
and some other states are out of compliance. Federal funding
should be pulled. And what you cannot allow is the
Democrats to pretend that it is the fault of Trump
(32:03):
and the Republicans that this funding is being pulled. No,
Gavin Newsom is violating civil rights law as a fact
of day to day life in the state of California.
Democrats aren't backing off this, which tells you I mean
this is after the election they just had and the
realities of what we're seeing, it's they're crazy. I mean,
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you that piece by piece. We'll talk to Julie Hammill
(34:19):
about her extended conversation with that CNN host where she's
like in a corner her and assigned at birth, and
just give us a sense of what's going on in
the state of California and what really is the policy
and why is it that California seems to think that
(34:42):
they don't have to abide by federal civil rights law?
You know, why do they think they get to just
make it up as they go along? I mean, how
could you even enforce this right? If men and women
have to be treated in a way that is equal
in the law, but the law can't actually determine who
a man and a woman is. How can that law
be enforced? Because how can you know if a woman
(35:05):
is being discriminated against for being a woman if you
don't know what a woman is? And I know that
that sounds like we're running in circles, but that is
what is going on here. I mean, that is truly
the situation laid bare. So it's nuts. By the way,
here's the mom of this, of the of ab Hernandez
(35:26):
doing what I would you know expect in the situation,
which is to try to I mean, she supports all
this of course, and she's doing the emotional blackmail thing
of if you don't let my son compete against women,
he may hurt himself. Play five.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
I'm not losing my child because of my stubbornness, and
for me being close minded like I rather embrace ourd
times together even if it's been this difficult than going
to a cemetery and crying because I couldn't accept something.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You know, emotional blackmail, that's what that is. You have
to go along with a delusion or else you are
wishing harm upon my child. Well what are the outer
limits to that? I wonder by the way, you know,
take my son at take my son at Harvard Admissions,
or else he may hurt himself. I mean, you start
(36:22):
to go down this path and you say, what the
heck is going on? We'll talk to Julie hammil about this.
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